[MMouse]: jeff mangum to do got milk? spot

[Matt Evanosky]

hi list,
all this talk recently about the music being played in the commercials is
interestingit brings up the S word --no, not sassy, i mean sell-out...in
this forum, the way i see it is,  and by the way, i may be paraphrasing a
bit from something i think i read in an interview once, so anyhoo i
think if hank rollins wants to do a nortel commersh or a photo for the
gap...then fineif he believes in the product then super...but more
importantly, if he makes X dollars doing something for the man, and then
puts that money into his publishing or record label to release something
really left of center, how is that wrong?
mr. rollins puts out a wide line of books as well as records from many
diverse artists and authors,  you can't think that he makes that much money
from rollins band or the residuals from the chase

anyway, if superchunk wants to do a british knights jingle or looper gets
used on the x-games promo, look at it as them being able to pay for their
art, instead of having to scrape by and suffer...

i own a mansion and a yacht,
mattmersh

"you won't be happy with me
so give me one more chance...you won't be happy anywhere..."

[MMouse]: question on shows*

[Silverain6]

all right...i was wondering if anybody has ever heard of modest mouse playing 
NC.?...!...i just hope they swing by here and i didn't know if it was a 
common thing for them

thanx

~*tanNer*~

[MMouse]: the mouse in denton

[Capn576048]

for anyone seeing the mouse in denton you can order tickets through 
ticketweb.com and they are eight bucks a pop, but come out to about nine with 
charges.  I ordered eight tickets for me and my friends, but that may have 
been too many so I will do a head count and if anyone needs a ticket i maybe 
able to help (only if the show hasn't sold out).  I don't think i would worry 
to much about the show selling out cause last time I saw them in dallas we 
were all worried that it would sell out and it was no where near selling out. 
 

I wrote a hip play and directed it, so I'm not sweating it either,
jacob

Re: [MMouse]: MODEST MOUSE IN CHICAGO!

[Jamie R. Battey]

Yeah, there's not at all, i just don't want to ride the L alone.  ciao. jamie

At 07:56 PM 3/10/00 , you wrote:
>there's nothing wrong with going alone. which is what i'll probably have 
>to do if my friends fall through. maybe i'll see you there.
>emily
>
>>From: "Jamie R. Battey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: [MMouse]: MODEST MOUSE IN CHICAGO!
>>Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:47:35 -0600
>>
>>is anyone going to the mouse show in Chicago?  ok, dumb question.  I have
>>no one to go with.  :(  I'm very sad.  Jamie
>>
>>
>>At 12:54 PM 3/10/00 , you wrote:
>>>Modest Mouse is playing at the Metro in Chicago on May 13th!!
>>>yipp!!!
>>>!!!
>>>califone opens.
>>>tickets on sale sat. at noon.
>>>all ages.
>>>be there or dont.
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>>
>>Jamie R. Battey
>>Northwestern University, Evanston, IL.  USA
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jamie R. Battey
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[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n731

[LWirbel]

In a message dated 3/10/2000 10:25:53 AM Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< one last thing. . .anyone else on this list like steely dan?  i mean, 
really 
 like them, not in a hah-hah they're funny my parents used to listen to them 
 way.  i'm happy that a) they've put out a new album (though i've not yet 
 heard it) >>

Heard the album, saw them perform on Letterman and a PBS special.  It's 
interesting merely for being the Dan, with the oddball lyrics you can't quite 
figure out, etc., but it sounds too lite-jazz-smooth, none of the rough edges 
or Skunk Baxter-style guitar of early albums (hell, it's 20 years since 
"Gaucho", they're old farts).  And, as a reviewer pointed out already, some 
of the new lyrics are just, well, creepy, in a 
your-weird-uncle-wants-to-screw-you kind of way.

Also, in re the comments about selling out to commercials (the latest insult 
was seeing Henry Rollins do Nortel Networks magazine ads), there's a 
counter-argument that can be made that merely by being born on this planet 
you become corrupt to the ways of the Spectacle to a certain extent, but I 
guess I figure that if you're blatantly selling song rights to anyone from 
Ford to Nortel, you're pretty much whoring around with a sign on the door.

Loring Wirbel
Monument, Colo.
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Re: [MMouse]: MODEST MOUSE IN CHICAGO!

[Tom Popelka]

yeah, i was excited about that show too, since i live fairly close to the 
Metro and everything. i wanted to see Sleater-Kinney on that friday night 
too. only problem is, my brother graduates from college that weekend, so 
i'll be back home for the weekend in the middle of iowa, and by the time i 
get back to chicago, mm will have already left. dammit! would've been an 
awesome weekend for shows.



--tom
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[MMouse]: Steely Dan & recent Atom show

[Philip Smoker]

Re: Atom & His Package
Did anyone go to that Philly show where they were
doing all Mountain Goats covers?  I WANT THAT ON TAPE,
TOO!  Almost as much as I want that "Close to Me"...


Re: Steely Dan
> besides, any band that alludes to william 
> burroughs in their name can't be all bad (well, 
> they could, but in this case, i say they're not).

When I was just a wee laddie, I used to read this book
called The Big Book of Rock Lists, and when of the
endlessly and needlessly informative lists centered
around bands whose names originated with something
have to do with sex.  They had Steely Dan listed as
taken their name from a nickname for a condom, or
something to do with a condom (hell, I don't remember,
I was too young to know any better).
Other names on that list?  The Lovin' Spoonful and
10cc come to mind, but I doubt too many of you young
whipper-snappers could name a single song by either
artist (c'mon, I dares ya!)...


talkin bout my juh juh juh generation (not actually),
*phiL*

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[MMouse]: Get Up Kids & Selling Out (unrelated)

[Philip Smoker]

Re: GET UP KIDS
> they took requests and played an awesome cover
> of "close to me" by 
> the cure which they say they've never played live 

I don't own a single Get Up Kids album or song, but I
will hook someone up with some serious bootlegs if
they can find this cover for me.  
The Cure reminds me of my high school salad days.
*sigh*


Re: SELLING OUT
> i gotta say that whenever a musician sells their
> song to a goddamn corporation like VW, then they
> suck for supporting big business. 

What if the musician is dead and his estate made that
decision?  What if the musician uses the money to
finance their next album?  What if the musician
happens to own a VW and believes the company makes a
decent product?  Hell, I would do a commercial for
Pioneer if they'd hook me up with another amplifier,
or I'd even do one for Maxwell House if it meant free
coffee.  Supporting big business?  Do you or someone
you know own a car?  Do you buy gas for it?  Well sir,
you are supporting two big evil businesses.  Pshaw.


I sold out before it was the hip thing to do,
*phiL*

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Re: [MMouse]: MODEST MOUSE IN CHICAGO!

[Jamie R. Battey]

is anyone going to the mouse show in Chicago?  ok, dumb question.  I have 
no one to go with.  :(  I'm very sad.  Jamie


At 12:54 PM 3/10/00 , you wrote:
>Modest Mouse is playing at the Metro in Chicago on May 13th!! 
>yipp!!! 
>!!!
>califone opens.
>tickets on sale sat. at noon.
>all ages.
>be there or dont.
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>


Jamie R. Battey
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL.  USA
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[MMouse]: MICHIGAN FEST

[s. w.]

i will be there!  this is what i look like:  
http://lightning.prohosting.com/~laz/steph1.jpg  if, for some reason, you 
happen to recognize me there, say "hi!  i am on the same nerdy modest mouse 
e-mail list as you!"

--stephanie
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[MMouse]: BTS in PHL

[Dustin Summers]

under the cover of darkness built to spill has schedualed a show april 22nd
at the troc in philly. tickets have been on sale for a week now, but i just
saw it listed this afternoon. ohh they are $10.
--
Dustin
"keep your lamp light trimmed and burning"

Re: Subject: Re: [MMouse]: a mouse show

[Doosu2323]

In a message dated 3/10/00 11:45:57 AM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I really want to go to that show in Denton..it'll be
>  kick ass i bet...do you think it will sell out? 

not sure...i think it very well may..i am going to try and get tix early...
chris

Just a belly flopped proposal of lets be friends..tour de force, defacto, 
ayuchuco!!!

Opinions were like kittens I was giving them away...

[MMouse]: going against the grain

[Todd Houlette]

On the topic of...
...bands that have done the exact opposite of
sell-out...Branch off in musical directions against
the grain of popular culture despite the threat of
million dollar losses..
I've got to give a high five to Mike Patton of Faith
No More for his relentles pursuit of experiments in
music composition, despite the break up of Faith No
More, ie Mr. Bungle and Fantomas. Anyone had a chance
to see either one of these? Take a listen to the
Fantomas CD and imagine them pulling it off live to a
"T." Two parts Mr. Bungle, one part Melvins, and one
part Slayer.
The only shitty part about seeing that live is all the
idiots expecting Faith No More songs. 
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Re: [MMouse]: modest mouse at springfest/cols oh

[Fvckclevo]

hmm on the flyer it said that its in two different places...i know may 
21st its at the ohio union west lawn on campus..ill have to get my hands 
on one of those flyers so i can tell you guys more.

--frenchy

[MMouse]: MODEST MOUSE IN CHICAGO!

[Z Quark]

Modest Mouse is playing at the Metro in Chicago on May 13th!! 
yipp!!
califone opens.
tickets on sale sat. at noon.
all ages.
be there or dont.
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RE: [MMouse]: Commercial rock

[Mark Robbins]

I don't know what your problem is..I mean..all you have are consumer choices
anymore..why don't you just accept that?  I have..and to prove it I got the
Nike Swoosh tattoed in red across my chest..figured I might as well get it
out of the way..they'll probably be doing it at birth soon..like
circumcision.

Mark
~I am sure the flames of my body will
reach the houses of the rich one day.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 12:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MMouse]: Commercial rock


As much as i hate to get all preachy to people i don't even know, i gotta
say that whenever a musician sells their song to a goddamn corporation like
VW, then they suck for supporting big business. I don't care how long
they've been around or if their on a major label or they're the best little
unknown band in the universe and they need a little boost, bands should not
SELL their music in order to SELL another product. Talk about fucking
selling out...
Wasn't anyone else pissed to hear John Lennon's music on a fucking Nike ad a
few years back?


Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com

RE: Subject: Re: [MMouse]: a mouse show

[Kristan Barber]

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i'm all over the mouse in texas...i live in arlington
so I will be in 
full 
support mode...long live the cheese..
chris

Just a belly flopped proposal of lets be friends..tour
de force, 
defacto, 
ayuchuco!!!

Opinions were like kittens I was giving them away...


---

I really want to go to that show in Denton..it'll be
kick ass i bet...do you think it will sell out? 


Has anyone seen Ugly Cassanova?

kiki
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Re: [MMouse]: modest mouse at springfest/cols oh

[amy wolf]

This is Columbus, Ohio, right?  I want to make sure because I live a few
hours away and I would be willing to take a raod trip...

yes, springfest @ the osu ovalor south osu oval or something, well it's
stuck in an oval somewhere at osu ;)
- amy

[MMouse]: Re: selling out, selling in

[WedrenStar]

In a message dated 3/9/00 9:48:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> As much as i hate to get all preachy to people i don't even know, i gotta 
say 
> that whenever a musician sells their song to a goddamn corporation like VW, 
> then they suck for supporting big business

um. . .in re: nick drake, he's dead.  not his fault (that the song was 
allowed to be used. he was fairly complicit in his death.)

otherwise, if the band a) needs money, and b) doesn't have objections to the 
product, why the hell not?  chrissy hynde protested the gap because they 
wanted to use a song of hers for "everyone in leather." okay, that's 
understandable.  but, hey, how do we know that vw isn't the car of choice for 
the stereolab gang?  
most of the people listening don't even know who the hell it is, if it's not 
"instant karma" or "start me up," so it doesn't make that much difference in 
the end anyway.  
oh, and specify, because the big business = bad ethics generalization works 
as well as not on radio = bad music.

one last thing. . .anyone else on this list like steely dan?  i mean, really 
like them, not in a hah-hah they're funny my parents used to listen to them 
way.  i'm happy that a) they've put out a new album (though i've not yet 
heard it) but incredibly unhappy that b)their songs are being covered by 
shitty new bands (smashmouth (again!), third eye blind, etc) for the upcoming 
me, myself and irene soundtrack.  they're not a contemp alt ironist joke, 
dammit! (and besides, if i ever learn how to play my guitar, i wanted to 
cover some of their songs, with sincerity).

i hate all the solos and crap in their music, and some of the back-up singing 
is pretty terrible too, but lyrically (and in a fair amount of the non-soloey 
music), they've got a bit going on.  besides, any band that alludes to 
william burroughs in their name can't be all bad (well, they could, but in 
this case, i say they're not).

star

 

[MMouse]: Barkmarket(!)

[Styx]

 I recall around July of last year there was a small Barkmarket thread
going on, so I know there are some fans here.  I just had a small email
exchange with vocalist/lyricist/guitarist Dave Sardy of Barkmarket, and
here's what I was told;

 1) Barkmarket *are* still together.
 2) Several new songs have been written.
 3) A new album is in the works, but a release date is unknown.
 4) A Barkmarket boxed-set will accompany the new album.

 I don't know about any of you, but I CAN'T WAIT.

 As mentioned last year by Virgil http://www.angelfire.com/tx/barkmarket/>, Dave Sardy has begun
his own label, See Thru Broadcasting .
It is probable that their new release will be on this label.

 You can also visit my Barkmarket fan page at;

 .

 That's all.  Thought some would be interested.

 - Matt

Re: [MMouse]: looper

[VegGrrrrl]

In a message dated 3/8/00 10:02:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< if anyone knows the band looper >>

they are opening for the flaming lips pretty soon here in portland

[MMouse]: Special Goodness

[Ledena Mattox]

For those of you who are fans of Weezer and what its former members are up
to now, I just thought I'd tell you that I saw Special Goodness tonight and
OH man were they terrible (has the drummer from Weezer as the guitar player
and singer).  I couldn't take it, I had to leave, I do not recommend going
to see this band.  

Ledena