Re: [OT] Re: Multiple Sites

2001-12-05 Thread ___cliff rayman___

 (Though, it's always seemed to me that it might be a decent
 design to have *one* vhost dedicated to accepting payments


 for the other vhosts... so when the user is ready to close
 the deal they get kicked to payment.super_secure.com where
 they're asked for the credit card info to finish
 processing).

i have seen it done this way before.  just got to make sure you
can identify the client since you will not get back a cookie for
your vhost.  you will probably have to reset the cookie for the
domain of your isp, or pass as hidden data, or in the url.

http://www.mydomain.com/buystuffnow.html
https://www.isp.com/~mydomain.com/paymenow.html?sessionID=xyz987123456

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Re: [OT] Re: Multiple Sites

2001-12-05 Thread Wim Kerkhoff

Joe Brenner wrote:
 
 Andy Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  As others have aluded to, if you're trying to serve
  multiple domains (or hostnames) off one IP, you use a
  system called software virtual hosting.  HTTP/1.1 Supports
  the Host: field in the http header to resolve to the site
  domain.
 
 There's a limitation on virtual hosts though, if you want to
 do any kind of ecommerce stuff with SSL (which works via the
 IP number), it won't work if you try to do it with more than
 one of the vhosts.

Yeah, I've scratched my head on that issue before. Eventually I gave up
after reading the mod_ssl docs:

http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/ssl_faq.html#vhosts

The most common way to do it is to use IP aliasing to assign multiple
IPs to your server, once for each SSL vhost. I just did a search through
the apache-modssl mailing list, and you can actually do multiple unique
SSL name-based vhosts on the same IP, _if_ use use separate ports for
each. That might be acceptable as well... ie domain1.com is accessed via
https://domain1.com:1000, domain2.com is https://domain2.com:1001, etc.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-modsslw=2r=1s=ssl+virtual+host+name+basedq=b

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[OT] Re: Multiple Sites

2001-12-05 Thread Joe Brenner


Andy Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

 As others have aluded to, if you're trying to serve
 multiple domains (or hostnames) off one IP, you use a
 system called software virtual hosting.  HTTP/1.1 Supports
 the Host: field in the http header to resolve to the site
 domain.

There's a limitation on virtual hosts though, if you want to
do any kind of ecommerce stuff with SSL (which works via the
IP number), it won't work if you try to do it with more than
one of the vhosts.  

So you're clients are going to be stuck using an external
agency (like paypal?) if they want to take on-line
payments. 

(Though, it's always seemed to me that it might be a decent
design to have *one* vhost dedicated to accepting payments
for the other vhosts... so when the user is ready to close
the deal they get kicked to payment.super_secure.com where
they're asked for the credit card info to finish
processing).




Re: Multiple Sites

2001-12-04 Thread Tim Tompkins

It rather sounds to me that you have a TransHandler that needs some
polishing. The translation handler should inspect for the resolved path
being a directory.  If it is a directory and the requested uri is lacking a
trailing forward slash then it needs to issue a redirect with the trailing
slash as mod_dir would have done.  If the resolved path is a directory and
the uri includes the trailing forward slash, then you'll need to resolve the
index file.

It is possible, however, to run some preliminary translation on the uri --
pulling out and noting interesting things from the uri -- and then DECLINE
the request to allow Apache's translations to finish resolving the request
to a file.  Here's an example of this:

package My::Apache::TransHandler;

use strict;
use Apache::Constants qw(:response);

sub handler {
my $r = shift;

# Assuming a pipe delimited list of virtual directories
# set these in httpd.conf like this:
# PerlSetVar VirtualDirectories dir1|dir2|dir3|dir4

my $virtual_dirs = $r-dir_config('VirtualDirectories');

if ( $r-uri =~ m!^/($virtual_dirs)$!o ) {
# virtual directory only, no trailing slash
$r-header_out( Location = $r-uri . / );
return REDIRECT;
}

# see if the uri contains the prefix
if ( $r-uri =~ m!^/($virtual_dirs)/(.*)!o ) {

# save the virtual path in $r-notes
$r-notes('VIRTUAL_PATH' = $1);

# reset the uri to everything following the virtual directory
# you may want to change this in some other way
$r-uri( /$2 );

}

# if you want apache to finish resolving the uri to a file...
return DECLINED;

# otherwise, add code to resolve to the file

}

1;


NOTE: I've not tested the above code, so it could contain errors.



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- Original Message -
From: Purcell, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:12 AM
Subject: Multiple Sites


Hello,
I have the need to create 10 web sites off my Apache web server. I do not
want to use 10 IP addresses. So I am doing to cheeze and do a
URL/directory/index.html foreach site.


Then I would give each customer a URL of URL/directory and I would like the
index.html or the default.html to come up. But it does not.
I edited my conf file to this
IfModule mod_dir.c
#DirectoryIndex index.html
DirectoryIndex default.htm

/IfModule

But but it does not work. But if I put in URL/directory and a forward slash/
eg. http://URL/directory/ then it shows the default.htm page. But I know my
customers, and they will not put in the directory forward slash. How do I
get around this issue?

Thanks


Scott Purcell






Multiple Sites

2001-12-03 Thread Purcell, Scott

Hello,
I have the need to create 10 web sites off my Apache web server. I do not
want to use 10 IP addresses. So I am doing to cheeze and do a 
URL/directory/index.html foreach site.


Then I would give each customer a URL of URL/directory and I would like the
index.html or the default.html to come up. But it does not. 
I edited my conf file to this
IfModule mod_dir.c
#DirectoryIndex index.html
DirectoryIndex default.htm

/IfModule

But but it does not work. But if I put in URL/directory and a forward slash/
eg. http://URL/directory/ then it shows the default.htm page. But I know my
customers, and they will not put in the directory forward slash. How do I
get around this issue?

Thanks


Scott Purcell




RE: Multiple Sites

2001-12-03 Thread Jonathan M. Hollin

:: But but it does not work. But if I put in URL/directory and a
:: forward slash/
:: eg. http://URL/directory/ then it shows the default.htm page.
:: But I know my
:: customers, and they will not put in the directory forward slash. How do I
:: get around this issue?

Scott,

The best solution is to use sub-domains, if you are able to effect changes
to your DNS.  That way your customers can't fail.

e.g:  http://cust1.yoursite.com/
http://cust2.yoursite.com/

etc.

Jonathan M. Hollin - WYPUG Co-ordinator
West Yorkshire Perl User Group
http://wypug.pm.org/




Re: Multiple Sites

2001-12-03 Thread Ronald Beck

Try setting your directory index like this...

DirectoryIndex default.htm index.htm default.html index.html

this should catch any one of the four files as the index when you enter
http://URL/directory.  
Also, make sure directory is in your http root path.  See the
httpd.conf file if you're not sure what your root directory is.

Ron

Purcell, Scott wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I have the need to create 10 web sites off my Apache web server. I do not
 want to use 10 IP addresses. So I am doing to cheeze and do a
 URL/directory/index.html foreach site.
 
 Then I would give each customer a URL of URL/directory and I would like the
 index.html or the default.html to come up. But it does not.
 I edited my conf file to this
 IfModule mod_dir.c
 #DirectoryIndex index.html
 DirectoryIndex default.htm
 
 /IfModule
 
 But but it does not work. But if I put in URL/directory and a forward slash/
 eg. http://URL/directory/ then it shows the default.htm page. But I know my
 customers, and they will not put in the directory forward slash. How do I
 get around this issue?
 
 Thanks
 
 Scott Purcell



Re: Multiple Sites

2001-12-03 Thread Andrew Ho

Hello,

SPBut if I put in URL/directory and a forward slash/ eg.
SPhttp://URL/directory/ then it shows the default.htm page. But I know my
SPcustomers, and they will not put in the directory forward slash. How do
SPI get around this issue?

RedirectMatch permanent ^/directory$ http://URL/directory/

Will do you what you want.

Humbly,

Andrew

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Re: Multiple Sites

2001-12-03 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya

But but it does not work. But if I put in URL/directory and a forward slash/
eg. http://URL/directory/ then it shows the default.htm page. But I know my
customers, and they will not put in the directory forward slash. How do I
get around this issue?


http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_dir.html

quote
This module provides for trailing slash redirects and serving 
directory index files.
/quote

quote
A trailing slash redirect is issued when the server receives a request 
for a URL http://servername/foo/dirname where dirname is a directory. 
Directories require a trailing slash, so mod_dir issues a redirect to 
http://servername/foo/dirname/.
/quote




Re: Multiple Sites

2001-12-03 Thread Medi Montaseri


If you only have one IP and want to have many web sites (ie URLs) for
your customers, then why don't you use VirtualHost. Then your customers
can either have

www.customer1.xyz.com
www.customer2.xyz.com

or 

www.customer1.com
www.customer2.com

solve the problem at the root, not at the leaf...
Looks like you are trying to do what Apache already does...

Unless I missed your point
 
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Mithun Bhattacharya wrote:

 But but it does not work. But if I put in URL/directory and a forward slash/
 eg. http://URL/directory/ then it shows the default.htm page. But I know my
 customers, and they will not put in the directory forward slash. How do I
 get around this issue?
 
 
 http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_dir.html
 
 quote
 This module provides for trailing slash redirects and serving 
 directory index files.
 /quote
 
 quote
 A trailing slash redirect is issued when the server receives a request 
 for a URL http://servername/foo/dirname where dirname is a directory. 
 Directories require a trailing slash, so mod_dir issues a redirect to 
 http://servername/foo/dirname/.
 /quote
 
 

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Re: Multiple Sites

2001-12-03 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya

Medi Montaseri wrote:

 If you only have one IP and want to have many web sites (ie URLs) for
 your customers, then why don't you use VirtualHost. Then your customers
 can either have
 
 www.customer1.xyz.com
 www.customer2.xyz.com
 
 or 
 
 www.customer1.com
 www.customer2.com
 



The originator of this thread didnt exactly say he had control over his 
DNS.




RE: Multiple Sites

2001-12-03 Thread Andy Sharp

From the start o' the thread:

 But if I put in URL/directory and a forward slash/
 eg. http://URL/directory/ then it shows the default.htm page. But I
know my
 customers, and they will not put in the directory forward slash. How
do I
 get around this issue?

This isn't really a mod_perl issue,  it's common to all of apache.

Even though this isn't in the scope of the list, here's your problem and
answer.

When you request a file from the apache web server.  URL/something
and something doesn't exist AND a directory exists under the same name,
httpd sends the client a redirect to SERVER_NAME/something/  thus
removing the need for people to type the trailing slash.  (the server
figured out if you need it, and adds it if neccesary, magic eh?)

What you need to do is ensure that the ServerName directive in
httpd.conf is indeed resolvable, because that's what the client's going
to be looking for whenever httpd needs to redirect the client to itself.
Sometimes people use the IP address  (ugy imho),  typically I use the
domainname without the www, just because I hate typing. 

As others have aluded to,  if you're trying to serve multiple domains
(or hostnames) off one IP, you use a system called software virtual
hosting.  HTTP/1.1 Supports the Host: field in the http header to
resolve to the site domain.

Here's the config for the truly lazy  (at least it worked for me)

NameVirtualHost  IP.address.goes.here

VirtualHost IP.address.goes.here
  ServerAdmin  
  DocumentRoot 
  ServerName  This is the part that's causing the redirect problem above
  ErrorLog 
  CustomLog ...
  ErrorDocument ...
  ...  Aliases 
  ...  ProxyPasses 
  ...  Any other config oddities ...
/VirtualHost

Of course all of this is in the httpd guide
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/

Search @
http://search.apache.org/docs/


-A


 -Original Message- 
  If you only have one IP and want to have many web sites (ie 
 URLs) for 
  your customers, then why don't you use VirtualHost. Then your 
  customers can either have
  
[snip]
  
  www.customer1.com
  www.customer2.com
  
 The originator of this thread didnt exactly say he had 
 control over his 
 DNS.




Re: Multiple Sites

2001-12-03 Thread Medi Montaseri


DNS hosting is about $3/monthif your DNS admin does not allow that,
simply move on to the next one...

On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Mithun Bhattacharya wrote:

 Medi Montaseri wrote:
 
  If you only have one IP and want to have many web sites (ie URLs) for
  your customers, then why don't you use VirtualHost. Then your customers
  can either have
  
  www.customer1.xyz.com
  www.customer2.xyz.com
  
  or 
  
  www.customer1.com
  www.customer2.com
  
 
 
 
 The originator of this thread didnt exactly say he had control over his 
 DNS.
 
 

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