Re: Skipped Tests (was: handler help)
On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 22:53, Tofu Optimist wrote: Then as root I used CPAN to install Bundle::WWW, LWP, and HTML::Parser. Had some troubles, used the force option, and plowed ahead. (Maybe I should have stopped here at the first FYI, this was probably also because of the locale issue. Best to make it a global change so you won't have to set it every time you want to run (or install) perl stuff. - Perrin
Re: Skipped Tests (was: handler help)
We're getting out of my area of experience here, I don't use mod_perl2, but I hear there are recent changes to CGI.pm. Did you install the latest CGI.pm? You should. 73, Ged. For the record, the last CGI.pm which I could get to work under Win2K/IE 6 is 2.97. V 2.99 corrupts the string returned by $q - url() by %-etc encoding /-etc characters. -- Ron Savage, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/08/2003. Room EF 312 Deakin University, 221 Burwood Highway, Burwood, VIC 3125, Australia Phone: +61-3-9251 7067, Fax: +61-3-9251 7604 http://www.deakin.edu.au/~rons
Re: Skipped Tests (was: handler help)
Hi there, On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Tofu Optimist wrote: sorry to break the thread in two. :( Why did it skip 6 tests? How did you do the perl Makefile.PL step? 73, Ged.
Re: Skipped Tests (was: handler help)
Exactly like it said in http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/install.html#A_Summary_of_a_Basic_mod_perl_Installation % cd /usr/src % lwp-download http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/apache_1.3.xx.tar.gz % lwp-download http://perl.apache.org/dist/mod_perl-1.xx.tar.gz % tar xzvf apache_1.3.xx.tar.gz % tar xzvf mod_perl-1.xx.tar.gz % cd mod_perl-1.xx % perl Makefile.PL APACHE_SRC=../apache_1.3.xx/src \ DO_HTTPD=1 USE_APACI=1 EVERYTHING=1 % make make test make install % cd ../apache_1.3.xx % make install --- Ged Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Tofu Optimist wrote: sorry to break the thread in two. :( Why did it skip 6 tests? How did you do the perl Makefile.PL step? 73, Ged. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: Skipped Tests (was: handler help)
Hello again, On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Tofu Optimist wrote: --- Ged Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How did you do the perl Makefile.PL step? % cd /usr/src % tar xzvf apache_1.3.xx.tar.gz % tar xzvf mod_perl-1.xx.tar.gz % cd mod_perl-1.xx % perl Makefile.PL APACHE_SRC=../apache_1.3.xx/src DO_HTTPD=1 USE_APACI=1 EVERYTHING=1 So your non-root user has write permission in /usr/src? H... % make make test make install This can't work, you need to be root to make install. 73, Ged. PS: Did you build your own Perl? Have you cleaned up any old Apaches and mod_perls? (RH9 comes with Apache2, you probably want to get rid of that:).
Re: Skipped Tests (was: handler help)
Ged -- Sorry I wasn't fully explicit, it is still early in the morning: So your non-root user has write permission in /usr/src? H... Rather than /usr/src, I put in /home/aprk % make make test make install This can't work, you need to be root to make install. Yes, you are correct. make make test as non-root, then install as root. (Odd, isn't it, the docs at http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/install.html#A_Summary_of_a_Basic_mod_perl_Installation don't make this explicit?) PS: Did you build your own Perl? Yes, 5.8.0 Have you cleaned up any old Apaches and mod_perls? (RH9 comes with Apache2, you probably want to get rid of that:). Excellent point. No. There are probably hordes of perls and hpptds and mod_perls running amok on the box throwing wild parties; I don't know. I think my next step should be to start over fresh. Again. As a newbie, may I ask 4 basic questions: [1] How do I find *everything* on the box related to perl / apache / mod_perl, both 1 and 2, both the RH install and from my own ftp / tar / make fumblings? [2] How do I uninstall everything from [1], so I can start fresh? [3] I'd prefer to use modperl 2 and apache 2, as that is what my ISP is using. And I think I'd prefer to use RH rpm to install them, as again, that is what my ISP did. (Want my dev box to match the outside box as much as possible). This newsgroup keeps mentioning build from sources, will I be going astray trying the rpm route? [4] Is a full uninstall enough, or should I reinstall RH itself? Many thanks for your generosity explaining these mysteries to a newcomer. -- A __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: Skipped Tests (was: handler help)
On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 10:31, Tofu Optimist wrote: [1] How do I find *everything* on the box related to perl / apache / mod_perl, both 1 and 2, both the RH install and from my own ftp / tar / make fumblings? Well, you can run updatedb and then use locate to look for things like apachectl and Apache.pm. [2] How do I uninstall everything from [1], so I can start fresh? There is no simply way to uninstall software that you installed from source. There are things you can do though. First uninstall any apache or mod_perl rpms. Then you can clear out all the Apach::* modules from your perl lib, and delete all the web server stuff (which is typically installed under a single directory). [3] I'd prefer to use modperl 2 and apache 2, as that is what my ISP is using. Okay, then stop reading docs for mod_perl 1. And I think I'd prefer to use RH rpm to install them, as again, that is what my ISP did. Don't do that. mod_perl 2 is basically in alpha right now and changes every day. If you plan to run it, you must keep on top of development. The rpms for mod_perl 2 are ancient at this point. [4] Is a full uninstall enough, or should I reinstall RH itself? The latter is more complete, but if you don't see any more httpd.conf files or Apache:: modules, you have probably cleaned things close enough. - Perrin
Re: Skipped Tests (was: handler help)
Hi there, On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Tofu Optimist wrote: Rather than /usr/src, I put in /home/aprk That's fine. But in future, tell us what you did, not some fiction... :) Yes, you are correct. make make test as non-root, then install as root. (Odd, isn't it, the docs at http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/install.html#A_Summary_of_a_Basic_mod_perl_Installation don't make this explicit?) Yes, I always think that, but many of the Open Source packages neglect to mention this point every time it might be mentioned. I think authors expect it to be either very obvious or else perhaps unnecessary - some operating systems don't have a Unix-like permisisons system. Did you build your own Perl? Yes, 5.8.0 Good. You might want to try 5.8.1 soon, but I don't think that's a problem here. Have you cleaned up any old Apaches and mod_perls? No. There are probably hordes of perls and hpptds and mod_perls running amok on the box throwing wild parties; I don't know. Argh. The Apache2/modperl2 that comes with RH9 is junk. Get rid of it all. Use 'ps' to see what processes you have running and stop any httpd processes that you don't think you started. RH will start an Apache when it boots if you let it, I wish they wouldn't do that. Read 'man chkconfig'. Go into /etc/rc.d and look at the startup scripts. Use chkconfig to prevent Apache being started at boot so you can start it manually when you've built it. When you're happy that it's all as you wnt it, you might want to use chkconfig to set it up to start at boot again. I think my next step should be to start over fresh. Again. :) [1] How do I find *everything* on the box related to perl / apache / mod_perl, both 1 and 2, both the RH install and from my own ftp / tar / make fumblings? [2] How do I uninstall everything from [1], so I can start fresh? Well RH should let you uninstall packages with rpm, but I don't use rpm and I tend to avoid RedHat so I don't know exactly how you'd do it. My preference would be to look in /usr/local/ and /var/lib to see if there are any apache things such as /usr/local/apache, and if so go in there as root and rm -rf the entire apache directory. That will perhaps throw away config files etc. you've been working on, you might want to make backups. When you've done that you might want to use slocate to build a database of filenames on your filesystem, then use it to search for any httpd or apachectl files that escaped. If so there'll probably be truckloads of files in there with them. Nukem. The source trees in your home directory don't matter. Nuke them too. You won't need to do anything about Perl on your system if you really did compile it from source yourself. [3] I'd prefer to use modperl 2 and apache 2, as that is what my ISP is using. And I think I'd prefer to use RH rpm to install them, as again, that is what my ISP did. (Want my dev box to match the outside box as much as possible). This newsgroup keeps mentioning build from sources, will I be going astray trying the rpm route? I hate RPMs. For Apache2/modperl2 you would be better off going to the CVS sources unless you can get hold of a very recent RPM, things are changing really fast in the mod_perl version 2 codebase. True, it could be important for your dev box to match your prod box, but when you figure out what's going on it will probably matter less - until you start doing really fancy stuff, when it will start to matter again. [4] Is a full uninstall enough, or should I reinstall RH itself? No, don't reinstall the entire OS. Get used to what your system feels like and eventually you'll know what to leave alone and what to change. mysteries to a newcomer. FWIW you sound like you're picking it up quickly. 73, Ged.
Re: Skipped Tests (was: handler help)
Thanks Ged. [4] Is a full uninstall enough, or should I reinstall RH itself? No, don't reinstall the entire OS. Get used to what your system feels like and eventually you'll know what to leave alone and what to change. Well, I opted to reinstall everything, starting with a fresh RH9. Then I removed all the relevant RH9 RPMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e mod_ssl [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e mod_python [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e pho [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e php-ldap [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e php-imap [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e php [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e redhat-config-httpd [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e webalizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e mod_perl [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e httpd (I had to take out mod_ssl, mod_python, etc so as to free up dependencies.) MY QUESTION: Now I want to remove perl, too: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e perl error: Failed dependencies: perl is needed by (installed) logwatch-4.3.1-2 perl is needed by (installed) w3m-0.3.2.2-5 perl = 0:5.002 is needed by (installed) perl-Filter-1.29-3 perl = 0:5.00503 is needed by (installed) perl-DateManip-5.40-30 perl = 0:5.000 is needed by (installed) perl-DateManip-5.40-30 perl = 0:5.00503 is needed by (installed) perl-HTML-Tagset-3.03-28 perl = 1:5 is needed by (installed) perl-HTML-Tagset-3.03-28 perl = 5.6.0 is needed by (installed) perl-HTML-Parser-3.26-17 perl = 0:5.004 is needed by (installed) perl-HTML-Parser-3.26-17 perl = 0:5.00503 is needed by (installed) perl-Parse-Yapp-1.05-30 perl = 0:5.004 is needed by (installed) perl-Parse-Yapp-1.05-30 perl = 0:5.00503 is needed by (installed) perl-URI-1.21-7 perl = 0:5.00503 is needed by (installed) perl-libwww-perl-5.65-6 perl = 0:5.002 is needed by (installed) perl-libwww-perl-5.65-6 perl = 0:5.004 is needed by (installed) perl-libwww-perl-5.65-6 perl = 0:5.005 is needed by (installed) perl-libwww-perl-5.65-6 perl = 2:5.8.0 is needed by (installed) perl-XML-Parser-2.31-15 perl = 0:5.004 is needed by (installed) perl-XML-Parser-2.31-15 perl = 5.6.0 is needed by (installed) perl-libxml-perl-0.07-28 perl = 0:5.005 is needed by (installed) perl-libxml-perl-0.07-28 perl = 5.6.0 is needed by (installed) perl-XML-Dumper-0.4-25 perl = 5.6.0 is needed by (installed) perl-XML-Encoding-1.01-23 perl = 0:5.005 is needed by (installed) perl-XML-Encoding-1.01-23 perl = 0:5.00503 is needed by (installed) perl-libxml-enno-1.02-29 perl = 5.6.0 is needed by (installed) perl-XML-Grove-0.46alpha-25 perl = 0:5.005 is needed by (installed) perl-XML-Grove-0.46alpha-25 perl = 0:5.004 is needed by (installed) perl-XML-Twig-3.09-3 perl = 5.6.1 is needed by (installed) foomatic-2.0.2-15 perl is needed by (installed) redhat-config-printer-0.6.47-1 perl = 1:5 is needed by (installed) emacs-21.2-33 perl is needed by (installed) libgnomeprint22-2.2.1.1-3 perl is needed by (installed) docbook-dtds-1.0-17 perl is needed by (installed) libgnomeprint-1.116.0-6 perl is needed by (installed) desktop-printing-0.1.10-6 perl = 1:5 is needed by (installed) xscreensaver-4.07-2 perl is needed by (installed) autoconf-2.57-3 perl = 0:5.000 is needed by (installed) autoconf-2.57-3 perl = 0:5.005_03 is needed by (installed) autoconf-2.57-3 perl is needed by (installed) automake14-1.4p6-5.1 perl is needed by (installed) automake15-1.5-6 perl = 0:5.005 is needed by (installed) automake15-1.5-6 Now, in this forum I heard the importance of building perl with the same compiler that you use for httpd and mod_perl. Am I going to have problems following the MP 2.0 install instructions http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/install/install.html if I don't nuke the current perl first? Thanks. And this time I'll restrict my reading to the 2.0 install docs, rather than dipping back into the 1.0 docs in the middle of 2.0 install. (Doh!) Thanks for advice on this -- A Did you build your own Perl? Yes, 5.8.0 Good. You might want to try 5.8.1 soon, but I don't think that's a problem here. Have you cleaned up any old Apaches and mod_perls? No. There are probably hordes of perls and hpptds and mod_perls running amok on the box throwing wild parties; I don't know. Argh. The Apache2/modperl2 that comes with RH9 is junk. Get rid of it all. Use 'ps' to see what processes you have running and stop any httpd processes that you don't think you started. RH will start an Apache when it boots if you let it, I wish they wouldn't do that. Read 'man chkconfig'. Go into /etc/rc.d and look at the startup scripts. Use chkconfig to prevent Apache being started at boot so you can start it manually when you've built it. When you're
Re: Skipped Tests (was: handler help)
On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 16:24, Tofu Optimist wrote: Am I going to have problems following the MP 2.0 install instructions http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/install/install.html if I don't nuke the current perl first? No, you should be fine. However, I have also simply installed a new perl on top of the one shipped by RH with no problems. (I did this because I wanted to use 5.6.1 rather than 5.8.0.) You will be blowing the RPM system by doing that, so it's not an advisable way to handle a large cluster of machines, but it works fine if you just need to get a quick dev environment bootstrapped. - Perrin
Re: Skipped Tests (was: handler help)
Ack!! My perl build failed. Here's what I did nuke the RPMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e mod_ssl [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e mod_python [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e pho [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e php-ldap [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e php-imap [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e php [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e redhat-config-httpd [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e webalizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e httpd [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -e mod_perl download perl, apache, mod_perl ls -rw-rw-r--1 aprk aprk 6260081 Jul 7 11:09 httpd-2.0.47.tar.gz -rw-rw-r--1 aprk aprk 918029 Apr 27 22:53 mod_perl-2.0-current.tar.gz -rw---1 aprk aprk 4145152 Aug 1 16:48 perl-5.8.0.tar.gz unzip and untar them, then cd perl-5.8.0 ./Configure -des make make test Here's the failure Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed --- ../lib/Locale/Codes/t/all.t 20 2 10.00% 9-10 ../lib/Locale/Codes/t/languages.t 59 1 1.69% 22 42 tests and 406 subtests skipped. Failed 2/712 test scripts, 99.72% okay. 3/68552 subtests failed, 100.00% okay. Oh helpful gurus, any advice? With gratitude -- A __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: Skipped Tests (was: handler help)
On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 17:46, Tofu Optimist wrote: Ack!! My perl build failed. [...] Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed --- ../lib/Locale/Codes/t/all.t 20 2 10.00% 9-10 ../lib/Locale/Codes/t/languages.t 59 1 1.69% 22 42 tests and 406 subtests skipped. Failed 2/712 test scripts, 99.72% okay. 3/68552 subtests failed, 100.00% okay. You didn't follow my earlier advice about changing the locale, did you? I wasn't kidding about that. You can't build perl 5.8.0 successfully on a RH 9 system unless you change the locale. Note that 5.8.1 does not have this problem and is about to be released. - Perrin
Re: Skipped Tests (was: handler help)
I'm not TRYING to be difficult; I am clueless. :) Exactly HOW do I change the locale? And after I do that, I do my make make install again, yes? Many thanks! :) A __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: Skipped Tests (was: handler help)
I am still here, trying to build mod_perl 2. Many thanks to everyone who offered help. To recap: I freshly installed RedHat 9 on a box, then used RPM to remove modules involving httpd. (See notes below). Then I built perl 5.8.0 from source, first doing a export LANG=C to address the UTF bug. The perl build worked. I did everything as non-root until the make install, which I did as root. I then built Apache 2.0.47 from source. Seemed to go OK (there was no make test step...) I did everything as non-root until the make install, which I did as root. Then as root I used CPAN to install Bundle::WWW, LWP, and HTML::Parser. Had some troubles, used the force option, and plowed ahead. (Maybe I should have stopped here at the first sign of trouble) As non-root, did cd mod_perl-1.99_09/ perl Makefile.PL MP_AP_PREFIX=$HOME/httpd/prefork MP_INST_APACHE2=1 make which went fine. make tests did not work -- below is the bottom of the output. Argh! Suggestions? - A PS Below the make test output below, I included a note file where I've been pasting commands I've run... in some places, it contains notes, rather than exact linux commands. == = BOTTOM OF FAILED make test == snip /usr/bin/perl -Iblib/arch/Apache2 -Iblib/lib/Apache2 \ t/TEST -clean *** setting ulimit to allow core files ulimit -c unlimited; t/TEST -clean APACHE_USER= APACHE_GROUP= APACHE_PORT= APACHE= APXS= \ /usr/bin/perl -Iblib/arch/Apache2 -Iblib/lib/Apache2 \ t/TEST -verbose=0 *** setting ulimit to allow core files ulimit -c unlimited; t/TEST -verbose=0 /home/aprk/httpd/prefork/bin/httpd -d /home/aprk/src/mod_perl-1.99_09/t -f /home/aprk/src/mod_perl-1.99_09/t/conf/httpd.conf -DAPACHE2 using Apache/2.0.47 (prefork MPM) waiting for server to start: ..[Fri Aug 01 22:34:36 2003] [info] 19 Apache:: modules loaded [Fri Aug 01 22:34:36 2003] [info] 3 APR:: modules loaded [Fri Aug 01 22:34:36 2003] [info] base server + 8 vhosts ready to run tests .. waiting for server to start: ok (waited 2 secs) server SAM:8529 started server SAM:8530 listening (TestProtocol::echo_filter) server SAM:8531 listening (TestProtocol::echo) server SAM:8532 listening (TestPreConnection::note) server SAM:8533 listening (TestFilter::in_str_msg) server SAM:8534 listening (TestFilter__both_str_con_add) server SAM:8535 listening (TestFilter::in_bbs_msg) server SAM:8536 listening (TestDirective::perlmodule) server SAM:8537 listening (TestDirective::perlrequire) server SAM:8538 listening (TestDirective::perlloadmodule4) server SAM:8539 listening (TestDirective::perlloadmodule5) server SAM:8540 listening (TestDirective::perlloadmodule3) server SAM:8541 listening (TestDirective::perlloadmodule6) apache/add_config..ok apache/cgihandler..ok apache/conftreeok apache/constants...ok apache/postok apache/readok apache/scanhdrsok apache/scanhdrs2...ok apache/send_cgi_header.ok apache/subprocess..ok apache/write...ok api/access.ok api/aplog..ok api/conn_rec...ok api/lookup_uri.ok api/lookup_uri2ok api/module.ok api/r_subclass.ok api/request_recok api/response...ok api/rutil..ok api/sendfile...ok api/server_rec.ok api/server_utilok api/uriok apr/base64.ok apr/constants..ok apr/date...ok apr/netlib.ok apr/os.ok apr/pool...ok apr/socket.ok apr/string.ok apr/table..ok apr/threadmutexskipped all skipped: Perl was not built with 'ithreads' enabled apr/util...ok apr/uuid...ok compat/apache..ok compat/apache_file.ok compat/apache_tableok compat/apache_uri..ok compat/apache_util.ok compat/conn_authen.ok compat/request.ok compat/request_bodyok compat/send_fd.ok directive/env..ok directive/perl.ok directive/perldo...ok directive/perlloadmodule...ok directive/perlloadmodule2..ok directive/perlloadmodule3..ok directive/perlloadmodule4..ok directive/perlloadmodule5..ok directive/perlloadmodule6..ok directive/perlmodule...ok directive/perlrequire..ok directive/pod..ok directive/setupenv.ok error/api..ok error/runtime..ok error/syntax...ok filter/both_str_con_addok filter/both_str_req_addok
Re: Skipped Tests (was: handler help)
Hi there, On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Tofu Optimist wrote: Exactly HOW do I change the locale? http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/UsingPerl58OnRedHat8 about half a dozen messages down. See also http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=87682 make make install again, yes? Better start with % cd /home/directory/src (or whatever your home directory is) and then % rm -rf apache_1.3.28 % rm -rf mod_perl-1.28 % tar xzvf apache_1.3.28.tgz % tar xzvf mod_perl-1.28 % perl Makefile.PL and I would suggest that in future instead of % make make install that you do these steps as separate commands % make % make test % su Password: # make install # exit % which will give you the opportunity to abandon ship at any point before the install. Finally if you do % script before you start the 'perl Makefile.PL' step then everything you see on the screen will be logged to a file so you can peruse it later if you feel the need. It will help you to become familiar with build the process. It looks a lot more complicated than it is. Really. % man script for more details. I'd use 'less -S' to look at the scriptfile. In fact I always alias 'less -S' to 'li' in my login scripts... :) 73, Ged.
Re: Skipped Tests (was: handler help)
Hello again, On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Tofu Optimist wrote: To recap: I freshly installed RedHat 9 on a box, then used RPM to remove modules involving httpd. (See notes below). Then I built perl 5.8.0 from source, first doing a export LANG=C why not LANG=en_US ? Then as root I used CPAN to install Bundle::WWW, LWP, and HTML::Parser. Had some troubles, used the force option, Oooohhh. Don't do that... We're getting out of my area of experience here, I don't use mod_perl2, but I hear there are recent changes to CGI.pm. Did you install the latest CGI.pm? You should. 73, Ged.
