Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine?
You're going to love this... your startup.pl file is fine... almost. You're forgetting a key part of the script... issue this shell command and it'll work: echo "1;" >> startup.pl The startup script needs to return true from its eval. <:) --SC -- Sean Chittenden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What you don't know won't help you much either. -- D. Bennett On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:47:35 -0800 (PST) > From: Ricardo Kleemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine? > > Hi everyone, > > I don't know what's causing this, and there are no errors being logged in > my error_log. > > I'm running apache 1.3.9, mod_perl 1.21, linux 6.1 > > I have a startup.pl with a bunch of modules in it. If I run the startup.pl > by itself it is fine, does not report errors... however, if I run httpd it > dies, never gets off the ground. If I go thru my list of modules and > remove some of them, then everything starts up fine... > > Here's my list: the ones commented out will cause httpd to not startup... > IF I leave the list as is, it starts up fine. If I uncomment any one of > these, httpd doesn't complain, doesn't log anything, but never starts up > correctly > > use CGI (); > #use Fcntl; > #use IO::ScalarArray; > use Time::Zone; > #use MD5; > use LWP::Simple; > #use LWP::UserAgent; > use Date::Parse; > #use MIME::Head; > #use MIME::Body; > #use MIME::Entity; > #use MIME::Parser; > #use Data::Dumper; > use Mail::Address; > #use HTML::Parse; > #use Net::SMTP; > >
Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine?
Thanks but unfortunately that's not it... :-( I only put in a snippet of the startup.pl. My file does indeed have a 1; at the bottom... Ricardo On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Sean Chittenden wrote: > You're going to love this... your startup.pl file is > fine... almost. You're forgetting a key part of the script... issue this > shell command and it'll work: > > echo "1;" >> startup.pl > > > The startup script needs to return true from its > eval. <:) > > --SC > > -- > Sean Chittenden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > What you don't know won't help you much either. > -- D. Bennett > > On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:47:35 -0800 (PST) > > From: Ricardo Kleemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine? > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I don't know what's causing this, and there are no errors being logged in > > my error_log. > > > > I'm running apache 1.3.9, mod_perl 1.21, linux 6.1 > > > > I have a startup.pl with a bunch of modules in it. If I run the startup.pl > > by itself it is fine, does not report errors... however, if I run httpd it > > dies, never gets off the ground. If I go thru my list of modules and > > remove some of them, then everything starts up fine... > > > > Here's my list: the ones commented out will cause httpd to not startup... > > IF I leave the list as is, it starts up fine. If I uncomment any one of > > these, httpd doesn't complain, doesn't log anything, but never starts up > > correctly > > > > use CGI (); > > #use Fcntl; > > #use IO::ScalarArray; > > use Time::Zone; > > #use MD5; > > use LWP::Simple; > > #use LWP::UserAgent; > > use Date::Parse; > > #use MIME::Head; > > #use MIME::Body; > > #use MIME::Entity; > > #use MIME::Parser; > > #use Data::Dumper; > > use Mail::Address; > > #use HTML::Parse; > > #use Net::SMTP; > > > > > >
Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine?
Drat... I was kinda hoping that would've been it. Oh
well Alright, how about this:
1) Set your logging level to debug (is it right now? I bet not)
2) Wrap your startup.pl file in some tags in your
httpd.conf file and eval the code. See if it sets $@. If so, then print
the result. Another thing you could do is install a signal handler for
$SIG{DIE} and print a stack trace using Carp::Croak. I've had to do the
latter more times than I care to admit, but it works really well in
catching errors.
I'd try #1, personally (much easier). --SC
--
Sean Chittenden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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than I have to.
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Ricardo Kleemann wrote:
> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 07:59:39 -0800 (PST)
> From: Ricardo Kleemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Sean Chittenden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine?
>
> Thanks but unfortunately that's not it... :-(
>
> I only put in a snippet of the startup.pl. My file does indeed have a 1;
> at the bottom...
>
> Ricardo
>
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Sean Chittenden wrote:
>
> > You're going to love this... your startup.pl file is
> > fine... almost. You're forgetting a key part of the script... issue this
> > shell command and it'll work:
> >
> > echo "1;" >> startup.pl
> >
> >
> > The startup script needs to return true from its
> > eval. <:)
> >
> > --SC
> >
> > --
> > Sean Chittenden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > What you don't know won't help you much either.
> > -- D. Bennett
> >
> > On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Ricardo Kleemann wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:47:35 -0800 (PST)
> > > From: Ricardo Kleemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine?
> > >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I don't know what's causing this, and there are no errors being logged in
> > > my error_log.
> > >
> > > I'm running apache 1.3.9, mod_perl 1.21, linux 6.1
> > >
> > > I have a startup.pl with a bunch of modules in it. If I run the startup.pl
> > > by itself it is fine, does not report errors... however, if I run httpd it
> > > dies, never gets off the ground. If I go thru my list of modules and
> > > remove some of them, then everything starts up fine...
> > >
> > > Here's my list: the ones commented out will cause httpd to not startup...
> > > IF I leave the list as is, it starts up fine. If I uncomment any one of
> > > these, httpd doesn't complain, doesn't log anything, but never starts up
> > > correctly
> > >
> > > use CGI ();
> > > #use Fcntl;
> > > #use IO::ScalarArray;
> > > use Time::Zone;
> > > #use MD5;
> > > use LWP::Simple;
> > > #use LWP::UserAgent;
> > > use Date::Parse;
> > > #use MIME::Head;
> > > #use MIME::Body;
> > > #use MIME::Entity;
> > > #use MIME::Parser;
> > > #use Data::Dumper;
> > > use Mail::Address;
> > > #use HTML::Parse;
> > > #use Net::SMTP;
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine?
Hi there, On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: > unfortunately that's not it... :-( If it's any help, mail me your config files and I'll fire it up on my development server (Slackware Linux 2.0.34/Apache 1.3.9/mod_perl 1.21) to see what happens. Have you got the latest & greatest of all your modules? Probably I'd have to download and compile a couple of things. Here's what I have, most are installed, even if I don't actually use them yet... CGI.pm 2.56 Crypt:SSLeay0.14 Digest-MD5 2.09 HTML-Pager 0.01 HTML-Parser 2.23 HTML-Template 0.96 HTML-Validator 0.12 <- never got this past `make test', not installed IO-Socket_SSL 0.73 MIME-Base64 2.11 Net::SSLeay 1.05 OpenSSL 0.9.4 URI.pm 1.04 libnet 1.0607 libwww 5.45 73, Ged.
Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine?
ok, i think if you mean redhat 6.1 as opposed to linux6.1 i have the same prob, i have never been able to insert anything into the startup.pl besides Apache CGI CGI::Carp . if i try to add any third parties it dies i did a quick search on the mail list and the red hat updates and found that they both pointed to the fact that apache is not compiled right to use dso's noteable i think it was with apxs go to ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/updates/6.1/i386/ for the new apache i havent yet tried this please if anyone else has any info please let me know i know apache dso w modperl works fine, i compiled em mysef on stampede! ttfn
Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine?
Something is tickling the back of my mind regarding this. I think it's because Red Hat includes a botched perl build (ie different install options). A while back I took to rebuilding perl by hand and haven't had this problem in a _long_ time. I'd try going that route if your problems persist. This still strikes me as a work around and not necessarily a solution, but I haven't spent the time to figure out the specific prob w/ Red Hat's build, so workarounds are legit. ::grin:: Plus, depending on your needs, the build flag -O6 always helps too ;) -- Sean Chittenden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I may be getting older, but I refuse to grow up! On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Clayton Cottingham wrote: > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:58:35 + > From: Clayton Cottingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine? > > ok, i think if you mean redhat 6.1 as opposed to linux6.1 i have the same prob, > > i have never been able to insert anything into the startup.pl > besides Apache CGI CGI::Carp . > if i try to add any third parties it dies > > i did a quick search on the mail list and the red hat updates and found that > they both pointed to the fact that apache is not compiled right to use dso's > > noteable i think it was with apxs > > go to > ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/updates/6.1/i386/ > for the new apache > > i havent yet tried this please if anyone else has any info please let me know > > i know apache dso w modperl works fine, i compiled em mysef on stampede! > > ttfn
Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine? (fwd)
Ricardo Kleemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi everyone, > > I don't know what's causing this, and there are no errors being logged in > my error_log. > > I'm running apache 1.3.9, mod_perl 1.21, linux 6.1 > > I have a startup.pl with a bunch of modules in it. If I run the startup.pl > by itself it is fine, does not report errors... however, if I run httpd it > dies, never gets off the ground. try runninng 'httpd -X' under gdb. > If I go thru my list of modules and > remove some of them, then everything starts up fine... Without having checked your list, I'll wager that the "good" modules are all pure perl and the "bad" ones use machine-language XS extensions. You will need to link mod_perl statically to apache or wait for a resolution to this problem -- see the thread "Apache 1.3.9 + mod_perl 1.21 + Solaris 2.7 dumps core". -- Frank Cringle, [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: (+49 2304) 467101; fax: 943357
Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine? (fwd)
Ricardo Kleemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hmmm :-( > > On 14 Jan 2000, Frank D. Cringle wrote: > > > > > Without having checked your list, I'll wager that the "good" modules > > are all pure perl and the "bad" ones use machine-language XS > > extensions. > > So typical modules like MD5 and MIME::Body are "bad" modules? There is nothing wrong with the modules, that's why I put "bad" in inverted commas. They are only "bad" in the sense that they trigger a bug in dynamically-linked mod_perl. -- Frank Cringle, [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: (+49 2304) 467101; fax: 943357
Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine?(fwd)
Hmmm :-( On 14 Jan 2000, Frank D. Cringle wrote: > > Without having checked your list, I'll wager that the "good" modules > are all pure perl and the "bad" ones use machine-language XS > extensions. So typical modules like MD5 and MIME::Body are "bad" modules? Ricardo
Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine?(fwd)
i don't think he is saying that the module is "bad", he is saying that modules that use XS, with apache mod_perl have caused problems with startup and restarts. based on the running posts regarding dlopen and dlclose, i'd say he was correct. cliff rayman genwax.com Ricardo Kleemann wrote: > Hmmm :-( > > On 14 Jan 2000, Frank D. Cringle wrote: > > > > > Without having checked your list, I'll wager that the "good" modules > > are all pure perl and the "bad" ones use machine-language XS > > extensions. > > So typical modules like MD5 and MIME::Body are "bad" modules? > > Ricardo
Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine?(fwd)
Cliff Rayman wrote:
> i don't think he is saying that the module is "bad",
> he is saying that modules that use XS, with apache
> mod_perl have caused problems with startup and restarts.
> based on the running posts regarding
> dlopen and dlclose, i'd say he was correct.
>
> cliff rayman
> genwax.com
>
> Ricardo Kleemann wrote:
>
> > Hmmm :-(
> >
> > On 14 Jan 2000, Frank D. Cringle wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Without having checked your list, I'll wager that the "good" modules
> > > are all pure perl and the "bad" ones use machine-language XS
> > > extensions.
> >
> > So typical modules like MD5 and MIME::Body are "bad" modules?
> >
> > Ricardo
ok, as far as i can tell apxs is not compiled right with redhat 6.1 , i
recomp'd apache 1.3.9 {dso style}and modperl1.21
and not a prob for a day now
Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine? (fwd)
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: > Hmmm :-( > > On 14 Jan 2000, Frank D. Cringle wrote: > > > > > Without having checked your list, I'll wager that the "good" modules > > are all pure perl and the "bad" ones use machine-language XS > > extensions. > > So typical modules like MD5 and MIME::Body are "bad" modules? DBI, XML::Parser, mod_perl... :) -- Details: FastNet Software Ltd - XML, Perl, Databases. Tagline: High Performance Web Solutions Web Sites: http://come.to/fastnet http://sergeant.org Available for Consultancy, Contracts and Training.
