mp guide: sections -> leaks

2004-05-04 Thread Brad Bowman
Hello,

I've had problems with  sections causing leaks with
graceful restart, at least with some versions/setups of mod_perl.
I thought the problem should be noted in the guide.

A patch is attached for:
http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/troubleshooting.pod.orig

I no longer have my test code, it was a while ago.
Here's the link and mail exchange that confirmed my tests:

http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/modperl/304620

> >> > I have a static Solaris compilation, and have the same problems
> >> > where the parent seems to grow by 1M each HUP.
> >> 
> >> that's strange, do you have PerlFreshRestart On or some  sections?
> >> otherwise, kill -HUP with a static modperl is a noop.
> > 
> >You got me!  I have   sections ... but I didn't know
> >it was such a crime.  Pretty bizarre behavior if you ask me.
> 
> it's not a crime, but if you're running Perl code during restart there's a
> strong chance you'll be growing the server size.  i agree 1M is bizarre
> though.

Brad

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... There is dignity in paucity of words. ... -- Hagakure
--- troubleshooting.pod.orig	2004-05-04 16:57:24.0 +1000
+++ troubleshooting.pod.new	2004-05-04 17:03:48.0 +1000
@@ -767,6 +767,10 @@
 See the I explanation at the section:
 L
 
+Also, be aware that  sections can also cause leaks during
+graceful restarts.  See the (sub)thread:
+http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/modperl/304620
+
 =head1 OS Specific Notes
 
 =head2 RedHat Linux

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Re: [mp2] $r->auth_name

2004-05-04 Thread Geoffrey Young


Fred Moyer wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there an mp2 implementation of $r->auth_name?  I'm working with
>>> Apache::AuthCookie in a native mp2 environment and am getting an error
>>> message of:
>>
>>
>> I believe this module has been ported to mp2 already.  you might want to
>> check the archives so you don't end up doing more work than you need.
> 
> I followed the threads to
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-modperl&m=105264164428847&w=2
> 
> Most of this I got working.

try

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-modperl&m=105978462618590&w=2

which notes that a pre-release of 3.05 supports mp2 and is available from here:

  https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=12701

> 
>>>
>>> Can't locate class method 'Apache::RequestRec::auth_name' via package
>>> 'Apache::ReqestRec' at Apache/AuthCookie.pm line 18
>>>
>>> I've found references to $r->auth_name and ap_auth_name in the source
>>> but have not come across it in the api docs.
>>
>>
>> you need to
>>
>>   use Apache::Access ();
>>
>> first.
> 
> 
> Aha, the missing piece. Thanks!

sure :)

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Re: mason/mod_perl debugging help needed

2004-05-04 Thread Aaron Ross
Hi Andrew,

> can reproduce the problem easily, and upon closer inspection with 
> strace and gdb I can tell that Apache is hanging in the same place 

Well, where is it?

Also, what versions of various things are you running?

And when you say "hang indefinitely"... what do you mean?

Aaron

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Re: [mp1] subprocess_env and non-mod_perl handlers

2004-05-04 Thread John Wittkoski


Geoffrey Young wrote on 5/3/04, 8:02 PM:

 > > If I do the void subprocess_env trick:
 > >
 > > $r->subprocess()
 > >
 > > before retrieving $something, then it's populated along with the
 > rest of
 > > the environment.
 >
 > that only affects %ENV, not the ability of $r->subprocess_env to grab
 > something from the subprocess_env table.  %ENV is not automatically
 > populated with the contents of subprocess_env, so if you're really
 > talking
 > about %ENV then your Example 2 + subprocess_env() trick sounds right.


Nope, I'm talking about the table itself (via subprocess_env), which is 
why I am confused.


 >
 > >
 > > However, as mentioned in many of the docs/books, this is expensive
 > and I
 > > really only need the one variable.
 > >
 > > I've also tried walking the subprocess_env table in the perl handler,
 > > but the value set in the C handler is not there.
 >
 > that's really strange.  are you sure that you are not removing it in your
 > application someplace?  try tweaking the test tarball I mentioned bit
 > by bit
 > until it has the relevant logic from your code in it.  I can't tell
 > you the
 > number of bugs I've "fixed" by trying to reproduce the bug, only to
 > find I
 > was the bug :)


Understood. :-) Thanks for the code, I'll keep working on it trying to 
narrow down the problem. At least I know that the behavior I'm seeing is 
definitely wrong and it should work without the void subprocess_env call.


 >
 > >
 > > Are the C API subprocess_env table and the mod_perl API subprocess_env
 > > table distict until something (like the void call) merges the
 > tables? Is
 > > this some sort of scoping issue between C and Perl?
 >
 > it shouldn't be, so long as you're hitting the tables directly with
 > $r->subprocess_env.  %ENV is another matter entirely.


Thanks,

--John





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ANNOUNCE: Bricolage 1.8.0 Arrives!

2004-05-04 Thread David Wheeler
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Re: mod_perl File Extension Configuration instead of a Path Configuration

2004-05-04 Thread JupiterHost.Net

DJ wrote:
I dont know if this has been answered, since i deleted my email but the 
answer is:


   SetHandler perl-script
   PerlHandler Your::Module

Thanks DJ!
I did get this earlier:
 PerlModule Apache::Registry
 AddHandler perl-script .mpl
 PerlHandler Apache::Registry
so incorporating the 2 it would be:
 
SetHandler perl-script
PerlHandler Apache::Registry
 
After mod_perl is built as a DSO in Apache?
Is either method more preferable?
I'd do either in the main config section or in an  
section?

TIA

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Re: mp guide: sections -> leaks

2004-05-04 Thread Stas Bekman
Brad Bowman wrote:
Hello,
I've had problems with  sections causing leaks with
graceful restart, at least with some versions/setups of mod_perl.
I thought the problem should be noted in the guide.
A patch is attached for:
http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/troubleshooting.pod.orig
I no longer have my test code, it was a while ago.
Here's the link and mail exchange that confirmed my tests:
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/modperl/304620
Thanks for the patch, Brad. But are you sure this is still the case with the 
latest mp1? This thread that you've quoted is 4 years old. And it doesn't show 
any code that may cause such a leak.

Or do you refer to this note:
it's not a crime, but if you're running Perl code during restart there's a
strong chance you'll be growing the server size.  i agree 1M is bizarre
though.
In which case this should probably mention:
+Also, be aware that  sections can also cause leaks during
+graceful restarts.  See the (sub)thread:
+http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/modperl/304620
"when running some perl code"? as in 'besides using  sections to do 
dynamic configuration'?

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make test hangs

2004-05-04 Thread William Fulmer


Hi,
 
I'm trying to get mod_perl-1.99_13 to compile with apache 2.0.49 and perl 5.6.2
 
-bash-2.05b# /usr/opt/perl-5.6.2/bin/perl -VSummary of my perl5 (revision 5.0 version 6 subversion 2) configuration:  Platform:    osname=hpux, osvers=11.00, archname=PA-RISC2.0    uname='hp-ux cars-l b.11.00 u 9000800 134921527 unlimited-user license '    config_args='-Accflags=+Z -Accflags=-DPERL_POLLUTE -Dprefix=/usr/opt/perl-5.6.2 -Doptimize=-g -Dloclibpth=/usr/opt/perl-5.6.2/lib /lib /usr/lib /usr/ccs/lib /usr/opt/libiconv-1.9.1/lib /usr/opt/readline-4.3/lib /usr/opt/openssl-0.9.7d/lib /usr/opt/ncurses-5.3/lib /usr/opt/gettext-0.12.1/lib /usr/opt/jpeg.v6b/lib /opt/informix/lib /usr/opt/zlib-1.1.4/lib /usr/opt/db-4.1.25/lib /usr/opt/expat-1.95.6/lib /usr/opt/gzip-1.2.4/lib /usr/opt/freetds-0.61/lib /usr/opt/libpng-1.2.5/lib /usr/opt/bzip2-1.0.2/lib /usr/opt/gdbm-1.8.3/lib /usr/opt/freetype-2.1.5/lib /usr/opt/gd-2.0.15/lib /usr/opt/tiff-v3.5.7/lib /opt/default/lib -Dlocincpth=/usr/opt/perl-5.6.2/include /include /usr/include /usr/ccs/include /usr/opt/libiconv-1.9.1/include /usr/opt/readline-4.3/include /usr/opt/openssl-0.9.7d/include /usr/opt/ncurses-5.3/include /usr/opt/gettext-0.12.1/include /usr/opt/jpeg.v6b/include /opt/informix/incl /usr/opt/zlib-1.1.4/include /usr/opt/db-4.1.25/include /usr/opt/expat-1.95.6/include /usr/opt/gzip-1.2.4/include /usr/opt/freetds-0.61/include /usr/opt/libpng-1.2.5/include /usr/opt/bzip2-1.0.2/include /usr/opt/gdbm-1.8.3/include /usr/opt/freetype-2.1.5/include /usr/opt/gd-2.0.15/include /usr/opt/tiff-v3.5.7/include /opt/default/include -Dcc=/opt/ansic/bin/cc -Dlibs=-lnsl -lnm -lndbm -lgdbm -ldb -lmalloc -ldld -lm -lcrypt -lsec -lpthread -lc -lcl -Ubincompat5005 -d -e'    hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define    usethreads=undef use5005threads=undef useithreads=undef usemultiplicity=undef    useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef    use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef  Compiler:    cc='/opt/ansic/bin/cc', ccflags =' -Ae -D_HPUX_SOURCE -Wl,+vnocompatwarnings +Z -DPERL_POLLUTE -DDEBUGGING -I/usr/opt/perl-5.6.2/include -I/usr/opt/libiconv-1.9.1/include -I/usr/opt/readline-4.3/include -I/usr/opt/openssl-0.9.7d/include -I/usr/opt/ncurses-5.3/include -I/usr/opt/gettext-0.12.1/include -I/usr/opt/jpeg.v6b/include -I/opt/informix/incl -I/usr/opt/zlib-1.1.4/include -I/usr/opt/db-4.1.25/include -I/usr/opt/expat-1.95.6/include -I/usr/opt/freetds-0.61/include -I/usr/opt/libpng-1.2.5/include -I/usr/opt/bzip2-1.0.2/include -I/usr/opt/gdbm-1.8.3/include -I/usr/opt/freetype-2.1.5/include -I/usr/opt/gd-2.0.15/include -I/usr/opt/tiff-v3.5.7/include -I/opt/default/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 ',    optimize='-g',    cppflags='-Ae -D_HPUX_SOURCE -Wl,+vnocompatwarnings +Z -DPERL_POLLUTE -DDEBUGGING -I/usr/opt/perl-5.6.2/include -I/usr/opt/libiconv-1.9.1/include -I/usr/opt/readline-4.3/include -I/usr/opt/openssl-0.9.7d/include -I/usr/opt/ncurses-5.3/include -I/usr/opt/gettext-0.12.1/include -I/usr/opt/jpeg.v6b/include -I/opt/informix/incl -I/usr/opt/zlib-1.1.4/include -I/usr/opt/db-4.1.25/include -I/usr/opt/expat-1.95.6/include -I/usr/opt/freetds-0.61/include -I/usr/opt/libpng-1.2.5/include -I/usr/opt/bzip2-1.0.2/include -I/usr/opt/gdbm-1.8.3/include -I/usr/opt/freetype-2.1.5/include -I/usr/opt/gd-2.0.15/include -I/usr/opt/tiff-v3.5.7/include -I/opt/default/include'    ccversion='A.11.01.25171.GP', gccversion='', gccosandvers=''    intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=4321    d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=16    ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t', lseeksize=8    alignbytes=8, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define  Linker and Libraries:    ld='/usr/bin/ld', ldflags =' -L/usr/opt/perl-5.6.2/lib -L/lib -L/usr/lib -L/usr/ccs/lib -L/usr/opt/libiconv-1.9.1/lib -L/usr/opt/readline-4.3/lib -L/usr/opt/openssl-0.9.7d/lib -L/usr/opt/ncurses-5.3/lib -L/usr/opt/gettext-0.12.1/lib -L/usr/opt/jpeg.v6b/lib -L/opt/informix/lib -L/usr/opt/zlib-1.1.4/lib -L/usr/opt/db-4.1.25/lib -L/usr/opt/expat-1.95.6/lib -L/usr/opt/gzip-1.2.4/lib -L/usr/opt/freetds-0.61/lib -L/usr/opt/libpng-1.2.5/lib -L/usr/opt/bzip2-1.0.2/lib -L/usr/opt/gdbm-1.8.3/lib -L/usr/opt/freetype-2.1.5/lib -L/usr/opt/gd-2.0.15/lib -L/usr/opt/tiff-v3.5.7/lib -L/opt/default/lib'    libpth=/usr/opt/perl-5.6.2/lib /lib /usr/lib /usr/ccs/lib /usr/opt/libiconv-1.9.1/lib /usr/opt/readline-4.3/lib /usr/opt/openssl-0.9.7d/lib /usr/opt/ncurses-5.3/lib /usr/opt/gettext-0.12.1/lib /usr/opt/jpeg.v6b/lib /opt/informix/lib /usr/opt/zlib-1.1.4/lib /usr/opt/db-4.1.25/lib /usr/opt/expat-1.95.6/lib /usr/opt/gzip-1.2.4/lib /usr/opt/freetds-0.61/lib /usr/opt/libpng-1.2.5/lib /usr/opt/bzip2-1.0.2/lib /usr/opt/gdbm-1.8.3/lib /usr/opt/freetype-2.1.5/lib /usr/opt/gd-2.0.15/lib /usr/opt/tiff-v3.5.7/lib /opt/default/lib    libs=-lnsl -lnm -lndbm -lgdbm -ldb -lmalloc -ldld -lm -lcrypt -lsec -lpthread -lc -lcl    perllibs=-lnsl -l

Re: mp2 Apache2.0.49 on HPUX11i : mod_perl does not load in Apache

2004-05-04 Thread Stas Bekman
[Olivier, please keep things on the list. Thanks]
So you have a bunch of these errors:
/usr/lib/pa20_64/dld.sl: Unsatisfied code symbol 
'modperl_bucket_sv_create' in
Is nm(1) working on your platform? If so, please try:
nm /path/to/your/httpd | grep modperl_bucket_sv_create

It does not find modperl_bucket_sv_create in httpd file.
Show us the linking output when it creates mod_perl.a. After the build is 
complete on my machine I'd do:

% rm src/modules/perl/mod_perl.a
% make
cd "src/modules/perl" && make -f Makefile.modperl
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/stas/apache.org/mp2-xcpt/src/modules/perl'
rm -f mod_perl.a
ar crv mod_perl.a mod_perl.o modperl_interp.o modperl_tipool.o modperl_log.o 
modperl_config.o modperl_cmd.o modperl_options.o modperl_callback.o 
modperl_handler.o modperl_gtop.o modperl_util.o modperl_io.o 
modperl_io_apache.o modperl_filter.o modperl_bucket.o modperl_mgv.o 
modperl_pcw.o modperl_global.o modperl_env.o modperl_cgi.o modperl_perl.o 
modperl_perl_global.o modperl_perl_pp.o modperl_sys.o modperl_module.o 
modperl_svptr_table.o modperl_const.o modperl_constants.o 
modperl_apache_compat.o modperl_error.o modperl_hooks.o modperl_directives.o 
modperl_flags.o modperl_xsinit.o
a - mod_perl.o
a - modperl_interp.o
a - modperl_tipool.o
a - modperl_log.o
a - modperl_config.o
a - modperl_cmd.o
a - modperl_options.o
a - modperl_callback.o
a - modperl_handler.o
a - modperl_gtop.o
a - modperl_util.o
a - modperl_io.o
a - modperl_io_apache.o
a - modperl_filter.o
a - modperl_bucket.o
a - modperl_mgv.o
a - modperl_pcw.o
a - modperl_global.o
a - modperl_env.o
a - modperl_cgi.o
a - modperl_perl.o
a - modperl_perl_global.o
a - modperl_perl_pp.o
a - modperl_sys.o
a - modperl_module.o
a - modperl_svptr_table.o
a - modperl_const.o
a - modperl_constants.o
a - modperl_apache_compat.o
a - modperl_error.o
a - modperl_hooks.o
a - modperl_directives.o
a - modperl_flags.o
a - modperl_xsinit.o
: mod_perl.a

So you are after this line:
a - modperl_bucket.o
Checking:
% nm mod_perl.a | grep modperl_bucket_sv_create
01e2 T modperl_bucket_sv_create
So as you can see it has this symbol. You can check the original file as well:
% nm modperl_bucket.o | grep modperl_bucket_sv_create
01e2 T modperl_bucket_sv_create
Can you please run those commands for us?
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Re: mp2 static build on HPUX11i: tests

2004-05-04 Thread Stas Bekman

Here are the results you asked for :
t/TEST -clean
t/TEST -v t/api/module.t t/apr/netlib.t t/compat/conn_rec.t 
t/modperl/setupenv.t  t/preconnection/note.t
Thanks. So it all comes down to two issues.
1) Apache::Module::loaded('mod_perl.so')
t/api/module1..11
# testing : Apache::Module::loaded('mod_perl.so')
# expected: 1
# received: 0
not ok 6
It makes sense that mod_perl.so is not loaded, since it doesn't exist. 
Philippe, I wonder how this test has passed for you.

2) the rest of the tests fail on $ENV{REMOTE_ADDR} and $r->remote_address 
returning 0.0.0.0 instead of 127.0.0.1. Sounds like an ipv6 issue to me. but 
since all those running ipv6 didn't report that problem that sounds as either 
a bug in Apache on HPUX11i or some OS issues. Olivier, could you try a mod_cgi 
script that prints out  $ENV{REMOTE_ADDR}, when your client is running on the 
same machine and when it's running from another machine? Thanks.

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Re: make test hangs

2004-05-04 Thread Stas Bekman
William Fulmer wrote:
Hi,
 
I'm trying to get mod_perl-1.99_13 to compile with apache 2.0.49 and
perl 5.6.2
That's insufficient, William. Please see: http://perl.apache.org/bugs/
[...]
It hangs on api/request_rec.
Try to figure out which sub-test is it hanging on. Try this trick:
http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/debug.html#Using_the_Perl_Trace
tusc of the httpd process gives the folloing over and over again:
 
select(0, NULL, NULL, NULL, 0x7f7f0b10)
. [entry]
select(0, NULL, NULL, NULL, 0x7f7f0b10)
. = 0
waitpid(4294967295, WIFEXITED(0), WNOHANG|WUNTRACED)
 [entry]
waitpid(-1, WIFEXITED(0), WNOHANG|WUNTRACED)
 = 0
which httpd process are you tracing? There is more than one. Looks like you 
are tracing the parent process.

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Re: mp2 static build on HPUX11i: invalid ldflags

2004-05-04 Thread Stas Bekman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW, I had to modify a bit the "config_vars.mk" file from Apache. 
You didn't mention what did you have to modify there.
Sorry, I didn't make myself clear :
Apache and Perl are compiled with the same compiler and the same options. 
The only problem that I found is for the "ldflads". The way Perl is 
linking is by calling the "cc" command. The way modperl is linking is by 
calling "/bin/ld". The first command is accepting the +DD64 (and needs 
this flag to compile in 64 bits), but the second command doesn't  know 
this option (and does not need it to link in 64 bits).
So I had to remove this in the ldflags from the config.
modperl does so, because Perl told it to do so. Your perl -V has:
  ld='/usr/bin/ld', ldflags =' +DD64 -L/usr/local/lib -L/lib/pa20_64'
If that's not correct (which appears to be the case), you must report this 
problem to the perl5-porters list via perlbug(1). Once you did so, please 
report back the outcome of this bug report.

But we certainly add any necessary workarounds so you won't have to fix that 
manually. But first I want to hear what p5p has to say about this.

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Re: [mp1] subprocess_env and non-mod_perl handlers

2004-05-04 Thread John Wittkoski


Geoffrey Young wrote on 5/3/04, 8:02 PM:

 > > Example 2:
 > >
 > > Basically the same except I have a C handler defined for TypeHandler
 > and
 > >   a mod_perl handler defined for FixupHandler. When the C code does:
 > >
 > > ap_table_set(r->subprocess_env, "TEST", "value");
 > >
 > > The mod_perl handler for FixupHandler doesn't see it using:
 > >
 > > $something = $r->subprocess_env("TEST");


 > > However, as mentioned in many of the docs/books, this is expensive
 > and I
 > > really only need the one variable.
 > >
 > > I've also tried walking the subprocess_env table in the perl handler,
 > > but the value set in the C handler is not there.
 >
 > that's really strange.  are you sure that you are not removing it in your
 > application someplace?  try tweaking the test tarball I mentioned bit
 > by bit
 > until it has the relevant logic from your code in it.  I can't tell
 > you the
 > number of bugs I've "fixed" by trying to reproduce the bug, only to
 > find I
 > was the bug :)


Geoff,
So I haven't been able to get very far on the code to test this further, 
but in the Eagle book I noticed this (section 9.1.4):

"subprocess_env() is only required if you need to change the environment 
in a subprocess launched by a different handler or module."

So what would happen if the C module is setting it's own ENV instead of 
using ap_table_set? Would that explain why I can't see the value in the 
perl module using subprocess_env, but when I call void subprocess_env(), 
the value suddenly appears in %ENV and the subprocess table?


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Re: [mp1] subprocess_env and non-mod_perl handlers

2004-05-04 Thread Geoffrey Young

> Geoff,
> So I haven't been able to get very far on the code to test this further, 
> but in the Eagle book I noticed this (section 9.1.4):
> 
> "subprocess_env() is only required if you need to change the environment 
> in a subprocess launched by a different handler or module."

what this section is talking about is the ability of mod_perl to alter the
environment of other handlers, such as mod_php.  in those cases, you are
required to use subprocess_env.

> 
> So what would happen if the C module is setting it's own ENV instead of 
> using ap_table_set? 


ou're thinking too hard :)  there is no ENV in C-land, really.  I mean,
there are ways to get to perl's %ENV via C but that's not what you say
you're doing.  so forget about %ENV for the moment - %ENV gets set
specifically my modules (mod_cgi, mod_perl, mod_php) based on the contents
of the subprocess_env table and has no bearing at all if you're accessing
the table directly.

> Would that explain why I can't see the value in the
> perl module using subprocess_env, but when I call void subprocess_env(),
> the value suddenly appears in %ENV and the subprocess table?

not really.  but clearly you have some kind of problem.  unfortunately I've
never seen this before and I don't see anything in the code to suggest what
your problem might be.  and if I can't reproduce it I can't solve it.

here are a few things to try though.

first, see if changing your calls make any difference.  that is, use
$r->subprocess_env->get() and $r->subprocess_env->set() instead of other
forms to remove the tie magic from the equation and see if that helps at all.

next I would try fiddling with PerlSetupEnv to see if that has some hidden
interaction with your reads.

you seem to know some C, so I'd try creating a C content handler and use
that to just dump the subprocess_env table.  you can use mod_example.c as a
guide.  if you can see the variable in your own content handler but not when
mod_perl is the content handler then I guess that at least verifies
something.  (what, I don't know :)

anyway, if you are able to reproduce the problem and roll it up into the
tarball I posted then I could fix whatever it is in mod_perl core that's
causing you harm.

HTH

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Re: [mp1] subprocess_env and non-mod_perl handlers

2004-05-04 Thread John Wittkoski


Geoffrey Young wrote on 5/4/04, 4:18 PM:

 > not really.  but clearly you have some kind of problem.

Doh! I definitely do, I think I'm it.

Remember earlier when you said how in debugging you often find that you 
are the bug? Well, I am the bug in this case. :-)

In the process of trying to figure out why I wasn't seeing anything in 
the subprocess_env table, I decided to take a look at the headers_in 
table. And there it was.

Turns out that the C handler I am using (for which I have limited docs) 
is putting it's data into the headers_in table and not the 
subprocess_env table. (Insert embarrassed big red face here.) Based on 
everything I've read on handlers and the types of things being populated 
(i.e. not headers from the client) the headers_in table didn't seem to 
be the right place so I wasn't looking there.

Sorry about that.

Thanks for the help,


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Re: [mp1] subprocess_env and non-mod_perl handlers

2004-05-04 Thread Geoffrey Young


John Wittkoski wrote:
> 
> Geoffrey Young wrote on 5/4/04, 4:18 PM:
> 
>  > not really.  but clearly you have some kind of problem.
> 
> Doh! I definitely do, I think I'm it.
> 
> Remember earlier when you said how in debugging you often find that you 
> are the bug? Well, I am the bug in this case. :-)

:)

> 
> In the process of trying to figure out why I wasn't seeing anything in 
> the subprocess_env table, I decided to take a look at the headers_in 
> table. And there it was.
> 
> Turns out that the C handler I am using (for which I have limited docs) 
> is putting it's data into the headers_in table and not the 
> subprocess_env table. (Insert embarrassed big red face here.) Based on 
> everything I've read on handlers and the types of things being populated 
> (i.e. not headers from the client) the headers_in table didn't seem to 
> be the right place so I wasn't looking there.
> 
> Sorry about that.

no problem at all :)

at least you know a little more about both your app and some apache/mod_perl
internals, so it was positive overall.

--Geoff

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SOAP::Lite dispatching problems

2004-05-04 Thread Richard Calosso



I am trying to get 
my Apache server to dispatch SOAP requests per some examples on the SOAP::Lite 
docs with not much success.  I am running on RH9 with Apache 2.0.49, 
mod_perl 1.99_13 built on perl v5.8.3 all built from source 
locally.
I added the 
following location directive to httpd.conf 
 
 SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler 
Apache::SOAP PerlSetVar dispatch_to 
"DLManager"
If have the 
following as DLManager.pm in the perl INC path:
package 
DLManager;
 
sub sayHello 
{    shift;    return "Hello" . 
shift;}
 
1;
and am using the 
following simple client to execute it.
#!/usr/local/bin/perl -w
 
use 
strict;
 
use 
SOAP::Lite;
 
my $Name = 
shift;print "\nCalling Service\n";print 
SOAP::Lite ->uri('http://localhost/DLManager') ->proxy('http://localhost/Broadline/SOAP') ->sayHello($Name) ->result;
 
When I execute the 
client program I get
405 Method not 
allowed at /hello.pl line 11
error 
and no 
error messages in the error or access log files.
Can someone shed 
some light on this for me?  I read all the docs I could find regarding 
this on Google and SOAPLite.org and still have not been able to resolve the 
problem.


Re: mp guide: sections -> leaks

2004-05-04 Thread Brad Bowman


> Thanks for the patch, Brad. But are you sure this is still the case with the 
> latest mp1? This thread that you've quoted is 4 years old. And it doesn't show 
> any code that may cause such a leak.

I'm reasonable sure I got the leaks with apache 1.3.27 and 
mod_perl 1.27.  I don't know about newer versions.

I've looked again and can't find the code I used, I think it
was defining a sub which was probably the leak.

> >>it's not a crime, but if you're running Perl code during restart there's a
> >>strong chance you'll be growing the server size.  i agree 1M is bizarre
> >>though.
> 
> In which case this should probably mention:
> 
> > +Also, be aware that  sections can also cause leaks during
> > +graceful restarts.  See the (sub)thread:
> > +http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/modperl/304620
> 
> "when running some perl code"? as in 'besides using  sections to do 
> dynamic configuration'?

I took the "if you're running Perl code during restart" to include
dynamic configuration code.  I don't really understand the process
so I'll defer to you.  I'd just like to see  sections mentioned
as a possible culprit.

Brad

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Re: SOAP::Lite dispatching problems

2004-05-04 Thread Geoffrey Young

> When I execute the client program I get
> 405 Method not allowed at /hello.pl line 11
> error and no error messages in the error or access log files.
> Can someone shed some light on this for me?  I read all the docs I could
> find regarding this on Google and SOAPLite.org and still have not been able
> to resolve the problem.

this really isn't a SOAP::Lite support forum, so you might want to try the
soaplite list (still on yahoo?) instead.

in any case, it's been a while since I played with SOAP::Lite, but here is
how I used to debug things, which I'm pretty sure I found in the docs:

use SOAP::Lite
  +autodispatch =>
  uri => 'http://localhost/Foo/SOAP',
  proxy => 'http://localhost/Foo',
on_fault => sub {
  my($soap, $res) = @_;
  die ref $res ? $res->faultstring :
 $res, " ", $soap->transport->status, "\n";
},
on_debug => [EMAIL PROTECTED];

HTH

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Re: mp guide: sections -> leaks

2004-05-04 Thread Stas Bekman
Brad Bowman wrote:

Thanks for the patch, Brad. But are you sure this is still the case with the 
latest mp1? This thread that you've quoted is 4 years old. And it doesn't show 
any code that may cause such a leak.

I'm reasonable sure I got the leaks with apache 1.3.27 and 
mod_perl 1.27.  I don't know about newer versions.

I've looked again and can't find the code I used, I think it
was defining a sub which was probably the leak.

it's not a crime, but if you're running Perl code during restart there's a
strong chance you'll be growing the server size.  i agree 1M is bizarre
though.
In which case this should probably mention:

+Also, be aware that  sections can also cause leaks during
+graceful restarts.  See the (sub)thread:
+http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/modperl/304620
"when running some perl code"? as in 'besides using  sections to do 
dynamic configuration'?

I took the "if you're running Perl code during restart" to include
dynamic configuration code.  I don't really understand the process
so I'll defer to you.  I'd just like to see  sections mentioned
as a possible culprit.
Well, I hoped that someone will tune in and share a code sample, but as noone 
did (at least yet) I've just committed your original patch, warning about the 
possibility of the leak.

Thank you, Brad.
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QA positions, Mountain View, CA

2004-05-04 Thread Katherine Bretz
Hello,

We have several open positions at Tellme. Tellme's web backend environment is mainly 
mod_perl based, involving externally visible, traditional web applications, as well as 
internal VoiceXML applications and XML data feeds.

Tellme systems use HTTP and XML extensively as a generic data-passing mechanism, and 
webservers are involved in everything from dynamic configuration for our hundreds of 
production machines, to integration
with customer billing systems.

Here is the job description:

The Client Success Quality Assurance Team At Tellme Networks is seeking two 
highly-motivated individuals for the following full-time positions: Intermediate QA 
Engineer and Senior QA Engineer.
 
Both positions will be responsible for developing test plans based on design 
specifications, executing test plans, and also writing and maintaining test scripts in 
PERL or a similar high-level language. Additionally, they will contribute towards the 
success of client projects by coordinating with project team members -- including 
integration architects, developers, and project managers -- in order to prevent, 
report, and resolve product defects.
 
The candidate for both the intermediate and senior QA positions must possess the 
following qualifications:
 
- BS Computer Science, or an equivalent combination of education and experience 
- Strong communication skills (written and verbal) 
- Proficient knowledge of Windows and UNIX
- Working knowledge of C/C++, HTML, XML, PERL 
- Experience with automated testing and knowledge of performance testing 
(SilkPerformer a plus) 
- Some knowledge of databases (Oracle, mySQL)
 
The Intermediate QA Engineer should have a minimum of 2-3 years of QA experience, 
whereas the Senior QA Engineer should have 5+ years of QA experience. Additionally, 
the Senior QA Engineer should have the ability to independently lead QA with a larger 
scope in medium to large-scale projects.
 
For more information on Tellme, visit the Tellme corporate website at
http://www.tellme.com/. To get an idea of some of the possibilities of
our technology, call our free voice portal at 1-800-555-TELL or get toll free 
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Re: SOAP::Lite dispatching problems

2004-05-04 Thread Randy Kobes
On Tue, 4 May 2004, Geoffrey Young wrote:

> > When I execute the client program I get 405 Method not
> > allowed at /hello.pl line 11 error and no error messages
> > in the error or access log files. Can someone shed some
> > light on this for me?  I read all the docs I could find
> > regarding this on Google and SOAPLite.org and still have
> > not been able to resolve the problem.
>
> this really isn't a SOAP::Lite support forum, so you might
> want to try the soaplite list (still on yahoo?) instead.
>
> in any case, it's been a while since I played with
> SOAP::Lite, but here is how I used to debug things, which
> I'm pretty sure I found in the docs:
>
> use SOAP::Lite
>   +autodispatch =>
>   uri => 'http://localhost/Foo/SOAP',
>   proxy => 'http://localhost/Foo',
> on_fault => sub {
>   my($soap, $res) = @_;
>   die ref $res ? $res->faultstring :
>  $res, " ", $soap->transport->status, "\n";
> },
> on_debug => [EMAIL PROTECTED];

As well as that for debugging, also check the soaplite
mailing list archives, as Geoff suggests - I believe that
some patches to SOAP::Lite (specifically, in
SOAP::Transport::HTTP) are needed to work with mod_perl 2.

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