Re: [MOSAIC] silent vs. oral reading comprehension
Hi, I have been listening to the conversation about silent vs. oral reading comprehension. Many of you seem to feel that students understand better when they read orally and I agree with students that are reading on grade level or above. However, my struggling readers frequently don't get it at all, unless they read it out loud. They will be reading something and just struggling away, but when they read it out loud, whether to themselves, myself, or my aide, it is like a light bulb goes on. I don't have to say anything,they just light up! Wow, so that's what it says! It seems like they are much more focused when they are reading out loud. I think when they are reading silently their minds wander more or they may just be fake reading. I know for myself even (and I am a very fluent reader) if I am reading something very technical or overly complicated, I will read a bit of it out loud. I think that way I hear it as well as see it. What do you think? Tammy 4th, TX Sent via the WebMail system at awesomenet.net ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] silent vs. oral reading comprehension
Tammy, What I think is that we really can't know what is going on in a child's mind. But I can speak for myself: When I am not fake reading (and yes, I can do that too), I understand what I am reading silently much more than what I am reading aloud. That's if all things are equal, of course, and I am equally engaged. But that's just me. Renee On Jul 17, 2007, at 8:29 AM, tdbell wrote: > Hi, > I have been listening to the conversation about silent vs. oral > reading comprehension. Many of you seem to feel that students > understand better when they read orally and I agree with students that > are reading on grade level or above. However, my struggling readers > frequently don't get it at all, unless they read it out loud. They > will be reading something and just struggling away, but when they read > it out loud, whether to themselves, myself, or my aide, it is like a > light bulb goes on. I don't have to say anything,they just light up! > Wow, so that's what it says! > > It seems like they are much more focused when they are reading out > loud. I think when they are reading silently their minds wander more > or they may just be fake reading. I know for myself even (and I am a > very fluent reader) if I am reading something very technical or overly > complicated, I will read a bit of it out loud. I think that way I > hear it as well as see it. > > What do you think? > Tammy > 4th, TX > > > > > > > > Sent via the WebMail system at awesomenet.net > > > > > > ___ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > "We live in a world in which we need to share responsibility. It's easy to say, 'It's not my child, not my community, not my world, not my problem.' Then there are those, who see the need and respond. I consider those people my heroes." ~ Fred Rogers ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] silent vs. oral reading comprehension
I have seen what you describe as well!!! It really helps some students to read aloud. Though I think this oral vs. silent reading dilemma varies from person to person. I personally comprehend much better when I read silently! I can remember this even from when I was in school. I would volunteer to read a few paragraphs aloud from the social studies book in class and sound very fluent, but then when the next person read I would have to quickly go back and skim what I HAD JUST READ ALOUD because I didn't "get it" the first time. I think everyone is different. Kerry/5th On 7/17/07, tdbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They will be reading something and just struggling away, but when they > read it out loud, whether to themselves, myself, or my aide, it is like a > light bulb goes on. I don't have to say anything,they just light up! Wow, > so that's what it says! > > > > > > > > > Sent via the WebMail system at awesomenet.net > > > > > > ___ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] silent vs. oral reading comprehension
- Original Message - From: "tdbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It seems like they are much more focused when they are reading out loud. > I think when they are reading silently their minds wander more or they may > just be fake reading. I know for myself even (and I am a very fluent > reader) if I am reading something very technical or overly complicated, I > will read a bit of it out loud. I think that way I hear it as well as see > it. It's not that they are focused, it's because their EARS are smarter than their MOUTHS...That's because a child LISTENS to the words for 4-5 years before they learn to READ. They can tell when something SOUNDS right (try reading aloud to them and make a mistakethey'll catch it). Most people find reading aloud or moving your lips makes comprehension easierit's because we can HEAR the errors and correct them. That's one of the reasons I can't stand to hear a teacher say "Read slower" to a student. Reading slower is great when you are learning phonics, but for comprehension you have to "hear" the words at a spoken level of speed which is about 150-250 words per minute. As I tell my kids, "If you understand me speaking this speed, you can understand reading at this speed" It's also a great idea when writing. If the writer reads their work aloud, they can usually hear the errors. Bill ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] silent vs. oral reading comprehension
Don't you think this could be a function of individual learning modality? I personally am a visual learner, and even my kids tell me to "Write it down, Mom," if they want me to remember something they've told me, so that I'll have a visual reference. My daughter, on the other hand, is strongly aural--can't remember anything she reads unless she reads it aloud. Isn't this what differentiated instruction is all about? ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] silent vs. oral reading comprehension
I think every child is different and that is part of our role as teachers. We do have auditory learners who may remember more when reading aloud. I know that if I want to remember a phone number, I read it aloud over and over again! Watch your struggling readers when they are reading something difficult...do you see them moving their lips??? How many of us, when reading something very difficult, read it out loud to try to make sense of it! Others are distracted by the 'performance' aspect and need to read silently to get the most out of it. I think we need to actually ASK kids in which mode they comprehend better.Usually, they can TELL you and you don't need to infer it. In my experience, if they don't know right away, they soon pay attention to it and figure it out. Jennifer Maryland In a message dated 7/17/2007 11:56:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tammy, What I think is that we really can't know what is going on in a child's mind. But I can speak for myself: When I am not fake reading (and yes, I can do that too), I understand what I am reading silently much more than what I am reading aloud. That's if all things are equal, of course, and I am equally engaged. But that's just me. Renee ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] silent vs. oral reading comprehension
How sensible! Zoe On Tuesday, July 17, 2007, at 03:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I think every child is different and that is part of our role as > teachers. > We do have auditory learners who may remember more when reading aloud. > I know > that if I want to remember a phone number, I read it aloud over and > over > again! Watch your struggling readers when they are reading something > difficult...do you see them moving their lips??? How many of us, when > reading something > very difficult, read it out loud to try to make sense of it! Others > are > distracted by the 'performance' aspect and need to read silently to > get the most out > of it. I think we need to actually ASK kids in which mode they > comprehend > better.Usually, they can TELL you and you don't need to infer it. In > my > experience, if they don't know right away, they soon pay attention to > it and figure > it out. > Jennifer > Maryland > In a message dated 7/17/2007 11:56:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Tammy, > > What I think is that we really can't know what is going on in a > child's > mind. But I can speak for myself: > > When I am not fake reading (and yes, I can do that too), I understand > what I am reading silently much more than what I am reading aloud. > That's if all things are equal, of course, and I am equally engaged. > > But that's just me. > Renee > > > > > > > > ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new > AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > ___ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] silent vs. oral reading comprehension
I think another difference is reading aloud for one's own benefit as opposed to impressing the class of their peers. When they read for themselves, they are not as self conscious, just more focused on making meaning of what they are reading. Tammy 4th, TX Sent via the WebMail system at awesomenet.net ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
