Re: New Mozilla Logo

2001-12-10 Thread Chocobo_greens

On Sun, 09 Dec 2001 06:25:44 -0500, kang wrote:


 Proposals for a New Mozilla Logo
 
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Re: Why no document type declaration in mozilla.org?

2001-12-10 Thread Pratik

Colin Thefleau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
news:9v0ock$5qo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I noticed that the website mozilla.org does not have a document type 
 declaration. I thought this where a html or standart requirement.
 If someone (the webmaster) knows, let me know, just for curiosity.
 
 Ciao
 Colin

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89885

This bug really needs to get fixed. An organisation that creates a
browser that claims the most standards compliance should have a home
page that can be validated on w3.org. Whats the point of directly
people who say This website doesn't display right in Mozilla to
validator.w3.org when mozilla.org's own home page does not validate.

Pratik.




Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-10 Thread Chocobo_greens

, but I fail to see why I should even consider the
 ghosts some excile Nepalese see, whos only contribution to this group or
 the project has been trolling. He isn't only seeing ghosts at broad
 dayligh - he's hallusinating.

really depends on what you call trolling. if disagreeing with you is
trolling, pls killfile me along with everone else who does not agreee
with you. No one is forcing you to consider my opinon.. one of the nice
things about freedom  wouldnt you say. 

in addition, i am not alone in my opposition to the mozilla logo. i  am
just one who is saying what he thinks.. there are others posting heer who
agree with me. 

seriously, i know that you cant please everyone .. everything will offend
someone, but there are images that will blatantly offend a large segement
of the population.. usually there are politically and ideologically
divisive images, the confederate flag, Nazi swastika, hammer and sicke,
star, american flag or any flag,  etc. 

I just beleive that they shouldnt be used like that.  it just goes to
hurt the open source software ingenreal. 
I can just see MS using mozilla as an example.




Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-10 Thread Patrick Gallagher

Chocobo_greens wrote:

, but I fail to see why I should even consider the

ghosts some excile Nepalese see, whos only contribution to this group or
the project has been trolling. He isn't only seeing ghosts at broad
dayligh - he's hallusinating.


really depends on what you call trolling. if disagreeing with you is
trolling, pls killfile me along with everone else who does not agreee
with you. No one is forcing you to consider my opinon.. one of the nice
things about freedom  wouldnt you say. 

in addition, i am not alone in my opposition to the mozilla logo. i  am
just one who is saying what he thinks.. there are others posting heer who
agree with me. 

seriously, i know that you cant please everyone .. everything will offend
someone, but there are images that will blatantly offend a large segement
of the population.. usually there are politically and ideologically
divisive images, the confederate flag, Nazi swastika, hammer and sicke,
star, american flag or any flag,  etc. 

I just beleive that they shouldnt be used like that.  it just goes to
hurt the open source software ingenreal. 
I can just see MS using mozilla as an example.

People need to realize that sometimes a star is just a star.  If there 
is any sort of communist insinuation, it does have a correct basis, as 
open source software is very much a community effort - or communal, or 
communist... not in the sense of the former government of the USSR, 
China, or any other country that claims to be communist, it's a group of 
people working towards a common goal, to build the most kick-ass 
software in the world... by the people, for the people.

Relating a style of art to a communist, facist, or dictatorial regime is 
childish, and closeminded - while the regime may favour the art style, 
the art style is not representative of the regime.

The star has been a common symbol of greatness for a very, very long 
time - the fact that communist regimes adopted it to make themselves 
appear great doesn't make it a communist symbol. If it WAS a communist 
symbol, it wouldn't adorn the Hollywood walk of fame, billions of 
student essays and tests (every capitalist at one point fought to have a 
gold, silver, red, or green star on their school work) and millions of 
other articles as a symbol of excellence. Don't give the regimes you're 
fighting to avoid association with the power of association with such a 
wonderful symbol - take it for what is is, and teach people what it 
really stands for :)

Patrick

Patrick





Connection refused when displaying Ads

2001-12-10 Thread MahRain

Mozilla works fine, but sometimes when I load a site with ad banners on it I
get Conenction refused messages (when attempting to contact ads.[sitename])
For example Winamp.com or Deviantart.com

I use Mozilla 0.9.6 and yes I have had Netscape 6.1 and 6.2 installed
previously.

I myself think this has to do with the Tweak-XP Ad-blocker which I have
DISabeled now.

Thanks,

Marijn






Re: Recent Nightly destroyed my Bookmarks Separator Lines - Please Help

2001-12-10 Thread Neil

I demand that Peter Lairo may or may not have written...

 ...and this is what I see:

I'm afraid that my sidebar looks similar to my bookmarks window.





Re: Win build question

2001-12-10 Thread Chuck Messenger

D. Alvarado wrote:

 Hi,
I am running on a Win2000 machine.  Every time I try and build I
 fail with a 'cat' is not recognized as an internal or external
 symbol, command, or batch file error.  I tried searching my system
 and I can't find a cat.exe or cat.bat program, which leads me to
 believe I have left something out of the build environment.  Which
 part of the build installs a cat program and where may I find this
 mysterious cat.exe file?
 
 Thanks, Dave
 

You need a set of UNIX compatibility tools.  You can get an excellent 
free set at  www.cygwin.com.

 - Chuck





Netscape 6.2.1

2001-12-10 Thread Cyberweaver

I was wondering if anyone knew what bug fixes/upgrades are in the 
Netscape 6.2.1 upgrade?

Cyberweaver





[Q] Not loading web page

2001-12-10 Thread Eric Gorr

Before I fill out a bug report, I wanted to check here to see if this is
a known issue or if there is some preference I have set incorrectly.

I - 

1. press Cmd-N to bring up a new browser window
2. press Cmd-. to stop the loading of my home page
3. press Cmd-L to begin typing in the name of the page I want to go to
4. after typing in the URL, press return

Nothing happens. Netscape does not make any attempt to load the page. If
I press Cmd-Shft-L to bring up the dialog to type in the page,
everything works just fine.

I do notice that once I being typing in the name of the page I want to
go to, the little bookmark symbol off to the left becomes dim.

Any ideas? 

(if there is a better newsgroup to post this to, I would be interested.)




Re: [Q] Not loading web page

2001-12-10 Thread Eric Gorr

Oh, I'm use Netscape 6.2 under MacOS 9.2.1.





Re: New Mozilla Logo

2001-12-10 Thread Screwtape

kang schrieb:
Proposals for a New Mozilla Logo

Go here to view and vote on Entries :

http://pub51.ezboard.com/f9thamendmentdebatecommunityfrm1.showMessage?topicID=141.topic

Aha. That's what they call black humour, isn't it?

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Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-10 Thread Jonas Jørgensen

JTK wrote:

 Adam Sjøgren wrote:
 
On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 02:32:03 -0500, Chocobo greens wrote:


that is very easy for you to say, for some of us, the red star, like
mozilla's is still a symbol of death and destruction

Sure, sure, you're entitled to that opinion. But what do you propose
instead?

Using enormous amounts of energy on ranting about what is, is far less
constructive, for you, than to use energy on proposing viable
alternatives.

Come up with a set of graphics, that is *so much better* that
everybody can't help to be convinced that it's a good idea to use them
instead, then!

 That's been done many times by many people.  You know as well as I that
 the powers that be will not have it, and are committed to the communist
 theme.  Why?  One word:  Ch-Ch-Ch-China!
  
 
Show us how much better you can make it, or how much better your ideas
are.

 ...and AOL will ignore them.
 


China? AOL??? What are you talking about?


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Re: This site doesn't looks good in mozilla

2001-12-10 Thread Colin Thefleau

Andreas J. wrote:

 Hi folks.
 
 i loaded this site in IE and in Mozilla
 
 http://www.sport1.de/coremedia/generator/www.sport1.de/Main.html
 
 in mozilla it is not displayed right
 
 is the site coded bad or is it mozilla's fault???
 
 greetings, Andi
Looks not so good here on build 2001120726 and same problem on konqueror. 
There is this green frame in the middle. Looks ok in Netscape 4.78.
Actually it doesn't surprise me looking at the messy code that do not even 
has a document declaration.

Colin





Crash when www. is missing?

2001-12-10 Thread kimji

Hi,

Using Mozilla 0.9.6 Build 2001112012 under Linux. If
I File... Open Web Location... and type a url without
the www prefix the browser often crashes after Open.
For example:

www.cnn.com -- OK
cnn.com -- crash

Seems to work OK for some, though, e.g. xfree.org.

Cheers,

__
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Gunnm: Broken Angel
http://reimeika.ca/




Re: news.mozilla.org Down?

2001-12-10 Thread Pratik

I'm facing the same problem. I think its down. Using google groups
until it comes back up.

Pratik.

Russell McGaha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Anybody know if the server is really down?  I've been trying all day
 yesterday and this morning to connect and am not getting a response. (I
 use the news.mozilla.org server as my local server does not carry all
 the Moz groups, most notably .performance and .macosx).
 
 TIA
 Russell
 P.S. cc me direct with any answers if you would, so I won't miss the do
 to news server issues.




Site header scrolls in wrong direction

2001-12-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can anyone find out why this site is displayed incorrectly via Mozilla 
9.5 and above. The site head description scrolls down instead of accross.

http://letitride.com/

R






Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-10 Thread Patrick Gallagher

Adam Sjøgren wrote:

 On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 23:06:15 -0500, Chocobo greens wrote:
 
 
when something like this is presented, you dont have to be a
far-right hard-liner to see what it means...

 
 No. You have to be a far-right hard-liner _not_ to see what it means.
 
 
   Kind regards,
 
 

does this mean it's a political statement to put a star at the top of a 
christmas tree?

come on people - it's an artistic style, not a political statement.

Patrick





Why no document type declaration in mozilla.org?

2001-12-10 Thread Colin Thefleau

I noticed that the website mozilla.org does not have a document type 
declaration. I thought this where a html or standart requirement.
If someone (the webmaster) knows, let me know, just for curiosity.

Ciao
Colin




New Mozilla Logo

2001-12-10 Thread kang

Proposals for a New Mozilla Logo

Go here to view and vote on Entries :

http://pub51.ezboard.com/f9thamendmentdebatecommunityfrm1.showMessage?topicID=141.topic


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Re: Netscape 6.2.1

2001-12-10 Thread Henri Sivonen

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cyberweaver 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was wondering if anyone knew what bug fixes/upgrades are in the 
 Netscape 6.2.1 upgrade?

http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=defaultmodule=allbranch=M
OZILLA_0_9_4_BRANCHbranchtype=matchdir=file=filetype=matchwho=whoty
pe=matchhours=2date=explicitmindate=10%2F19%2F2001+00%3A00%3A00maxdat
e=11%2F26%2F2001+00%3A00%3A00cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot

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Re: W32/Badtrans@MM virus and Mozilla

2001-12-10 Thread Steve

This is still a bad idea for this to happen automatically. Yes, you
have to run the attachment, but it shouldn't get that far. This has
already been labeled as a bug 109249. 

Steve

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back forward button problems in unix:

2001-12-10 Thread Rob Somerville

on the latest builds dec 6-10 approximatly, the backward  forward buttons
never un-gray, and are non-functional on Linux   Solaris-sparc.

anybody got any ideas ?

thanks
robert somerville

p. s. Please also respond to email address





Re: applications/x-shockwave-flash

2001-12-10 Thread Travis Crump

David Loszewski wrote:

 so how do I install it on FreeBSD? I tried doing it through the ports 
 and it said it couldn't find netscape and tried downloading the linux 
 version from the flash.com site and wouldn't install because couldn't 
 find my linux kernel because I'm running FreeBSD.  Ideas?

 Dave


I've never used FreeBSD, but on Windows renaming mozilla.exe to 
netscape.exe during installation circumvents a similar error message...





Bug 78509: can't make shortcuts with certain characters

2001-12-10 Thread Ben Ruppel

Hello, I'm posting this about bug 78509
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78509
Essentially, this bug is for the fact that if you try to create a
shortcut on your computer to web sites with :, /, or \ in their title,
mozilla just shows an error message.

For me, this is the biggest usability problem of mozilla.  Yes it's a
small deal, so I'm saying the rest of mozilla is really a great
experience for my everyday browsing.  This error, however, is the only
reason I ever have to boot up internet explorer nowadays.  I also think
that an error such as this should be fixed before the mozilla 1.0
release, and as of now it has a 1.0.1 target milestone.

I am writing this post to A)see if anyone else cares about this feature,
and if so B)ask them to express their concern over the bug.  So far I
have posted several nag comments to the bug, and I really don't want to
continue.  The bug is assigned to pchen, and I know he's got a ton of
other stuff assigned to him, so I don't want to draw more attention to
this bug unless anyone else cares.

Why should you care?  Do you ever have to sort through and keep track of
a ton of web pages, yet you don't want to bookmark each one?  I
personally have been using the shortcut dragging feature to keep track
of dozens of pages covering job postings, bugzilla bugs, and apartment
listings.  If a certain site (www.homestore.com)includes a : in each
of it's page titles, then I have to use internet explorer for all of my
apartment searching and record keeping.  As things stand, it'll be like
this until after mozilla 1.0 is released, and I think that's just too
long to wait.






Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-10 Thread Ian Thomas

CaT wrote:

 Let's see if I can remember my american propaganda right...
 
 capitalism == freedom (to make what you want when you want how you want)
 
 capitalism == competition == many people making the one type of product
 differently
 
 Therefore to be anti capitalist is to be anti freedom and anti
 democracy.


Hmm, how about I add another line in there.

  capitalism == living a good life (well, thats the idea anyway)

Therefore, to be anti capitalist is to be against living a good life (or 
any other positive part of capitalism you can think of). Doesn't work so 
well any more, does it? ;););););););) (Do you think that is enough 
smilies?)

Ian







Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-10 Thread JTK

DeMoN LaG wrote:
 
 Chocobo_greens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
 9uubak$qu3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9uubak$qu3$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08 Dec 2001:
  There is no such thing.  No matter what you pick, something will
  be offensive to some group of people.
 
  i agree but there is a diffecence between a red star and say an M
  logo. do you agree?
 
 
 I don't personally see anything wrong with the red star.  The only
 reason it is a communist icon is because *YOU* see it as a communist
 icon.

No, it's because the entire world's population sees it as a communist
icon.

  If that's what you want to see it as, fine, change it.  Tools are
 provided with your OS for changing the icon.  What if I see the red star
 as being a space shuttle going to the moon?

Then you're insane and need some heavy-duty medication.

  I can't believe you'd get
 offended over something as trivial as an icon.


Like the man said, then let's change it to a couple of planes crashing
into a couple of tall buildings.  I mean, it's a trivial icon, right? 
Wrong.  Not when it's outrageously offensive to the bulk of the world's
population.

But we gotta make that China sale, don't we?
 
 Taken from a website Computer Stupidies (http://www.rinkworks.com)
 *  Tech Support: All right...now double-click on the File Manager
 icon.
 * Customer: That's why I hate this Windows -- because of the icons
 -- I'm a Protestant, and I don't believe in icons.
 * Tech Support: Well, that's just an industry term sir. I don't
 believe it was meant to --
 * Customer: I don't care about any 'Industry Terms'. I don't
 believe in icons.
 * Tech Support: Well...why don't you click on the 'little picture'
 of a file cabinet...is 'little picture' ok?
 * Customer: [click]
 
 Do you see how stupid your argument is now?

No.  From http://www.victimsofcommunism.org/:

It is a great moral failing of our age that the extent of Communism's
atrocities remains dimly understood. The horrors of Nazism are well
known. Yet who knows the Soviet Union murdered 30 million people? Who
knows China's dictators have slaughtered an estimated 60 million? Who
knows that the Communism plague has exacted a death toll surpassing that
of all the wars of the 20th century combined?

Not the Maozilla Politburo.  Or do they simply not care?




Re: Mozilla logo

2001-12-10 Thread jesus X

Mike Geiger wrote:
 If this is the case - where did the current artwork come from? And if
 people can write code that falls under the various licenses... why can't
 a few images  icons? (This isn't a hostile question, I'd honestly like
 to know why this is such a big deal that doesn't apply to the code.)

You can, but the trick here is that mozilla.org wants to both distribute their
builds with the red Mozilla logo, _and_ still protect it as a trademark.

 Also - how do other open source projects to it? The Apache Feather? BSD
 Daemon.?

No idea.

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Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-10 Thread CaT

On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 05:49:25PM -0600, JTK wrote:
  I don't personally see anything wrong with the red star.  The only
  reason it is a communist icon is because *YOU* see it as a communist
  icon.
 
 No, it's because the entire world's population sees it as a communist
 icon.

Stop spreading lies. It does not. (unless, ofcourse, you can actually
prove that the entire worlds population, man, woman and child, do
actually see it is a communist icon and, possibly have always done so)

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Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-10 Thread DeMoN LaG

Chocobo_greens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
9v0pcn$rjp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9v0pcn$rjp$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09 Dec 2001: 
 
 I just beleive that they shouldnt be used like that.  it just goes
 to hurt the open source software ingenreal. 
 I can just see MS using mozilla as an example.

Sorry, but you are out of your mind here.  If MS were to call another 
web browser communist because of it's icons, there would be such a 
huge backlash against them I think Linux and Mozilla would gain about 85 
to 90% of the market within a few weeks.  No company can make political, 
racial, ethnic, or any type of statement without killing themselves

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Re: Why no document type declaration in mozilla.org?

2001-12-10 Thread DeMoN LaG

JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10 Dec 2001: 
 
 Five months an counting for a *one line patch*.  Holy Christ.

So fix it then.  Duh.

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pre-checkin tests.

2001-12-10 Thread Judson Valeski



As a friendly reminder test your stuff before you checkin. There's this
page called 
tinderbox
, perhaps you've seen it ;-), that has a box at the top called "checkin requirements,"
please go over those if you haven't in awhile. Take specific note of the
pre-checkin
tests
 that you're required to run before checking in. If you don't pass those
tests before you checkin, you upset many people, and look odd for apparently
not being able to follow rules everyone else is following.

Also, if you're really whacking code, you might want to run the 
daily smoketests
 too.

If you don't know what it feels like to checkin code w/ confidence that you're
not going to regress the smoketests, try it, you'll like it. The daily smoketesters
are not your personal testing partners, and tinderbox is not your build verification
tool :-).

Jud





Is this a known bug and if so, whats the bug ID?

2001-12-10 Thread Jonathan Wilson

If not, how do I go about adding it to bugzilla.
The problem relates to TEXTAREAs
If I paste some text, it sometimes doesnt show up properly.
This also happens if I select then delete some text, it doesnt disappear 
properly
Typing some new text makes the deleted text vanish or the pasted text 
appear.

Another, possibly related bug is that if I click in a TEXTAREA where 
there isnt accually any text, it doesnt position the cursor properly, 
sometimes it selects text, scrolls the textarea or moves the cursor to a 
new location, sometimes it just doesnt move the cursor.

I am using mozilla 0.9.6, if this has been fixed for 0.9.7 then thats 
really good...





Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-10 Thread Morten Nilsen

DeMoN LaG wrote:

 Chocobo_greens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
 9v0pcn$rjp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9v0pcn$rjp$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09 Dec 2001: 
 
I just beleive that they shouldnt be used like that.  it just goes
to hurt the open source software ingenreal. 
I can just see MS using mozilla as an example.

 
 Sorry, but you are out of your mind here.  If MS were to call another 
 web browser communist because of it's icons, there would be such a 
 huge backlash against them I think Linux and Mozilla would gain about 85 
 to 90% of the market within a few weeks.  No company can make political, 
 racial, ethnic, or any type of statement without killing themselves
 
 

Actually, I seem to recollect that MS has said that Open Source is a 
threat to capitalism or something along those lines...
I believe Userfriendly used the statement in a gag too...

Back to bugzilla for me...

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Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-10 Thread DeMoN LaG

Morten Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10 Dec 2001: 
 
 Actually, I seem to recollect that MS has said that Open Source is
 a threat to capitalism or something along those lines...
 I believe Userfriendly used the statement in a gag too...
 
 Back to bugzilla for me...
 

They'd called open source a Virus.  Calling something a virus, etc, is 
one thing.  When you compare it to something that americans had the cold 
war over, you *really* risk setting off a major war.  It would be no 
better than making a racial slur against something

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Re: Hotmail attachment downloads? (Mozilla 0.95 problem)

2001-12-10 Thread Erik Harris

On Tue, 04 Dec 2001 15:48:09 +0100, Jonas Jørgensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Erik Harris wrote:

 Will Mozilla ever become functional enough that I won't have to
 keep Netscape 4 or IE lying around to use whenever I want to make sure I can
 actually do something on the web? :-(

Mozilla is still beta, hence the 0 as major version number.

I've been involved with plenty of projects that went on for years with 0.x
versions simply so the development team could use this excuse, without any
real intention of ever getting to 1.0.  That's a copout.

Erik Harris eharris1@rocheste$.$$.com
http://w3.to/erikICQ: 2610172
Chinese Martial Arts Assoc @ Cornell: http://w3.to/CMAAC/

To avoid Spam-bots, my address at the top is INCORRECT.
Change each dollar sign to an r.




Re: Copy/paste messed up? (Mozilla 0.95 and www.spamcop.net)

2001-12-10 Thread Erik Harris

On 4 Dec 2001 03:19:57 GMT, Christopher Jahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

And it came to pass that Erik Harris wrote:

 The procedure I follow, as recommended by SpamCop,
 is:
 
 1) Copy/paste the header info from Eudora
 2) Put a few carriage returns after the header (it always
 looks fine up to this point)
 3) Hit View Source in Eudora
 4) Copy/paste the source from my text editor to Mozilla.

I don't use Eudora.  Nor do I do any of this stuff - I simply 
forward it.

Uhh..  That's not the point.  Copy/paste is a Windows function, and works the
same on all plain text, regardless of what program it comes from.  The fact
that I experience it most often with SpamCop is just an example pointing to a
more extensive problem with the way Mozilla pastes text into text boxes.

And when I use Pegasus, I just drag the message into my Anti-
Spam, and it's all done automagically.

Great, and how exactly does this have any relevance to this Mozilla bug?

Erik Harris eharris1@rocheste$.$$.com
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Re: Hotmail attachment downloads? (Mozilla 0.95 problem)

2001-12-10 Thread Morten Nilsen

Erik Harris wrote:

 On Tue, 04 Dec 2001 15:48:09 +0100, Jonas Jørgensen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mozilla is still beta, hence the 0 as major version number.

 
 I've been involved with plenty of projects that went on for years with 0.x
 versions simply so the development team could use this excuse, without any
 real intention of ever getting to 1.0.  That's a copout.

The thing is that it has taken a while to write all the stuff that is 
needed. And to fix the bugs that pop up.
0.x isn't an excuse, it _is_ the beta. and 1.0 isn't too far off.

And I think mozilla 0.x is tons better than IE anyways.
used it since 0.6, and Netscape 4.x before that.
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Webprogrammer for hire
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Re: news.mozilla.org Down?

2001-12-10 Thread Jay Garcia

Russell McGaha wrote:

 Anybody know if the server is really down?  I've been trying all day
 yesterday and this morning to connect and am not getting a response. (I
 use the news.mozilla.org server as my local server does not carry all
 the Moz groups, most notably .performance and .macosx).
 

It's up

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Novell MCNE-5/CNI-Networking Technologies-OSI
UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org





Tabs

2001-12-10 Thread Jay Garcia

What happened to the tabs feature, not enabled in latest nightlies.

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Novell MCNE-5/CNI-Networking Technologies-OSI
UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org





Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-10 Thread Chocobo_greens

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 19:14:49 -0500, CaT wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 05:49:25PM -0600, JTK wrote:
  I don't personally see anything wrong with the red star.  The only
  reason it is a communist icon is because *YOU* see it as a
  communist icon.
 
 No, it's because the entire world's population sees it as a communist
 icon.
 
 Stop spreading lies. It does not. (unless, ofcourse, you can actually
 prove that the entire worlds population, man, woman and child, do
 actually see it is a communist icon and, possibly have always done so)
 

maybe not everyone but MANY do. Far more than those who don't simply by
the numbers , 1+ billion in china will  1+ in india will .. i am sure
that hundreds of  millions in the US do,  along with hundreds of millions
 in europe+ russia.. 
Anyone old enough to remember 1989 will konw what the red star is. 

So you are in the minority when you say that the red star is not a
communist icon.




Re: pre-checkin tests.

2001-12-10 Thread Judson Valeski



Chris McAfee wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Part of
moving forward on performance means "don't go backwards". 
IMO, sheriffs are well within their charter to close the tree if bloat/leak/perf
numbers head south (yes, even just a little bit; unless we've consciously
decided to take the hit in some tradeoff).
  
Jud
  
  



Re: problem with Custom Keywords in 0.9.6

2001-12-10 Thread Travis Crump

Tom Hatta wrote:

 I have a bookmark for http://www.everything2.com; with the keyword 
 defined as e2.  When I type e2 in the location bar, however, I get 
 directed to http://www.e2.com;, a different site.  I've also 
 bookmarked http://www.google.com/search?q=%s; with keyword g (a 
 custom keyword method as described in
 http://www.mozilla.org/docs/end-user/keywords.html;), and for a test, 
 I typed g test in the location bar.  The browser then tried to 
 redirect me to http://www.g test.com/ which doesn't exist. (First of 
 all, it has a space character in the address.)  I've cleared the 
 history of the location bar before attempting this.  Also, both worked 
 after I renamed e2 to nodes, and g to goo.  My mozilla 
 sometimes creates fake bookmarks that have identical names as bookmark 
 folders, so maybe my bookmark settings file is corrupt?  Or is this a 
 known bug?
 Thanks in advance.

 Tom

WFM on 12/08 on Windows 2000 and every build I have on my computer, but 
I do remember encountering problems on one build around the time of 
0.9.6, but I have since deleted several of my older builds.  Regardless 
it works now...





Re: OT: Re: WTF! mozilla,

2001-12-10 Thread DeMoN LaG

Chocobo_greens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
9v41im$9la$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9v41im$9la$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10 Dec 2001: 
 
 maybe not everyone but MANY do. Far more than those who don't
 simply by the numbers , 1+ billion in china will  1+ in india will
 .. i am sure that hundreds of  millions in the US do,  along with
 hundreds of millions 
  in europe+ russia.. 

Well then, those billions of people you speak of should use Netscape, 
Galeon, or some Mozilla flavor with it's own set of icons.  This thread 
is so frigging pointless I can't believe you've drug it on this far.  
This is just like the spell checker.  If you want a spell checker, you 
use Netscape 6.  If you want icons that don't offend you, either change 
the damned icon yourself (it's quite easy to right click on something), 
or use a packaged distrobution.  The only reason I'm bothering to read 
this thread at this point is because of how funny it is.  There are 
millions of people in the world right now starving to death, so I don't 
think it's fair Mozilla be able to render pictures of food.  I want that 
stripped out right now.  All those hundreds of millions of people who 
may be dead by tomorrow because they have no food to eat will be 
offended by pictures of food on the internet.  And hell, how com Mozilla 
can render communist web sites?  I demand a filter be implemented that 
scans all incoming HTML for communist content and gets rid of it.  No 
stars, no text, nothing at all that can be considered communist in any 
way.  Helpless people may stumble across communist web sites on the 
internet, and Mozilla should protect them from it.  

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Re: Tabs

2001-12-10 Thread DeMoN LaG

Jay Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:3C158648.6040907
@JayGarcia.com, on 10 Dec 2001:

 What happened to the tabs feature, not enabled in latest nightlies.
 

I have no problem with a build pulled about 4 hours ago.  Tried a clean 
profile?  I had that problem a few days ago (maybe 2 or 3).  Next day's 
pull was fine though.  Didn't see anything on the checkin page that 
would have indicated tabs breaking though, so I'm at a loss

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Re: Mac vs. PC

2001-12-10 Thread Lincoln Ramsay

JJKC wrote:

 It isn't dramatically slower.  It's just that it is so much faster on 
 the PC.

For what it's worth, Mozilla on OS X crawls but so does IE. I really need to get 
a G4 :(

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Re: mozilla.org releases Mozilla 0.9.6 [date correction]

2001-12-10 Thread Asa Dotzler

Asa Dotzler wrote:

 On October 20, 2001 mozilla.org made available for download binaries of 
 the Mozilla 0.9.6 Milestone.


oops, that's actually supposed to read On _November_ 20, 2001 
mozilla.org made 

--Asa





The Mozilla 0.9.7 Milestone freeze and branching plan

2001-12-10 Thread Asa Dotzler

We freeze for the milestone Tuesday night at midnight (that's 
tomorrow!). The plan is to take fixes on the trunk Wednesday and 
Thursday and then branch on Friday. During the frozen trunk and branch 
period approval from [EMAIL PROTECTED] is required for checkin. To 
request approval for checkin email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a link to 
the bug, a quick description of the fix and the risk. If the bug is 
approved for landing on the frozen trunk or branch drivers will add the 
mozilla0.9.7+ keyword to the bug and send a reply mail. If a fix is 
not approved for the branch drivers will add the mozilla0.9.7- keyword 
and send a reply mail.

After we've branched please add the fixed0.9.7 keyword to bugs where 
you have checked the fix into the branch. The normal Resolved Fixed 
field is used to mark the bug as fixed on the trunk and the keyword is 
used to mark the bug as fixed on the branch. QA will use this keyword as 
a signal that the bug needs to be verified on the branch and will add 
the verified0.9.7 keyword to bugs which have been verified on that branch.

Also, drivers are maintaining a tracking bug 
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113027 to collect bugs 
which we believe are important to 0.9.7.  Please do not change any 
dependencies there. If you know of serious issues that should block the 
release of 0.9.7 send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


*mozilla0.9.7+*: drivers approval for checkin to frozen trunk or branch
*mozilla0.9.7-*: drivers rejection for checkin to frozen trunk or branch
*fixed0.9.7*: developer uses this to mark a bug as fixed on the branch
*verified0.9.7*: qa uses this to mark a bug as verified on the branch

--Asa