Re: To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
Bamm Gabriana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... ¿How many years is going to live HTML or CSS...? Please learn to speak correct English if I am going to take you seriously. You really are a moron aren't you, what other languages do you know? Till
Re: To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
Brian Heinrich wrote in message ... And I agree with Bamm: *please* try to write using something that bears more than a marginal resemblance to English grammar. Even if your knowledge of English grammar isn't that good, making the effort to express yourself and your thoughts and ideas clearly makes life *so* much easier for all involved. Brian And I say this to you too! a74gol$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:a74gol$[EMAIL PROTECTED] English is not the only language in the world you know? Lay off the grammar bashing, the net is for everyone, not just English types! Till
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Till [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message a74gv1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:a74gv1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Brian Heinrich wrote in message ... And I agree with Bamm: *please* try to write using something that bears more than a marginal resemblance to English grammar. Even if your knowledge of English grammar isn't that good, making the effort to express yourself and your thoughts and ideas clearly makes life *so* much easier for all involved. Brian And I say this to you too! oops wrong link :~( [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Till
Re: To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
Hi Till, I am sorry if I offended you from my post. As you can see, I am also not a native English speaker, but if you have seen any of my posts you can tell that I am making an effort to write in a way that is clearly understood by other people in this group. AFAIK, most of the people here are not native speakers too. But we use it because it is the lingua franca of this group. And I can tell that the others are also making an effort to express themselves well. If I can do it, and others can do it, he should at make some effort, don't you think? Bamm
Re: To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
Please learn to speak correct English if I am going to take you seriously. You really are a moron aren't you, what other languages do you know? My native language is Ilokano. My second language is Tagalog. English is merely a language I use to communicate with people who wouldn't care at all about learning my language.
Re: To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
Till wrote: Bamm Gabriana wrote in message... Hi Till, I am sorry if I offended you from my post. As you can see, I am also not a native English speaker, but if you have seen any of my posts you can tell that I am making an effort to write in a way that is clearly understood by other people in this group. AFAIK, most of the people here are not native speakers too. But we use it because it is the lingua franca of this group. And I can tell that the others are also making an effort to express themselves well. If I can do it, and others can do it, he should at make some effort, don't you think? Well yes, but it just gets out of hand at times, too many people think that English is gospel. As it maybe the most spoken language in the world, I don't think it's very polite to abuse someone because they don't write it well. As far as anyone is concerned, he may be trying his hardest and by the fact that he has posted on a predominantly English forum, say's to me that he is willing to have a go! I'm sure that when you were learning, you would not have appreciated someone taunting you because you made a few mistakes! Cheers Till Your comments are well taken, and I apologise if my agreement with Bamm in response to Lancer seemed somewhat harsh; that was more a sign of my own frustration than anything. Between 1988 and 1998, I spent a fair amount of time tutoring students who were in university-level English courses and were having problems with their written work. For most of these, English was their second, third, fourth, c, language. Few of them already knew an Indo-European language, which made it that much more difficult. Never the less, most of them *did* make a conscious effort to try to express themselves as clearly as possible. Likewise, most of those who post to these newsgroups also make the effort to express themselves as clearly as possible. I have read postings from people whose native language is German, French, Czech, Russian, even Mandarin, Cantonese, or some other Chinese language, c, and it generally isn't that difficult to understand them, even if their written English isn't that good. In the case of Bamm and a few others who are not native English speakers, their written English is even far superior to that of some of the native English speakers who post here. My frustration with Lancer is that he *may* have valid points or he may be way off the mark, but it is impossible to tell from his postings, since it can be *very* difficult to try to glean any coherent meaning from what he has written. I would perhaps have done better to give him the same advice I so often gave to students I was tutoring and told him to keep his grammar as simple and straight-forward as possible; unfortunatly, I let my frustration get the better of me. Brian -- We sail tonight for Singapore | We're all as mad as hatters here I've fallen for a tawny moor | Took off to the land of Nod Drank with all the Chinamen | Walked the sewers of Paris I danced along a colored wind | Dangled from a rope of sand You must say goodbye to me -- Tom Waits, 'Singapore'
To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
What are you trying to tell me with that list? Can anyone of those people, read a Roberto Matta? or a Miro? Does they people know who is Fidias? Homero? or Le Corbusier? etc... THOSE PEOPLES HAS 'DISCOVERED' THE STANDARDS And they didnt need a list of hundred nones to tell it to the world, because the ENTIRE WORLD has been in charge to judge them. B L A C K B O X Bamm Gabriana wrote: Hi, It's funny that you would claim that the W3C is a group of Linux people who hate Microsoft, when Microsoft is in fact a founding member of this group and is one of the writers of these standards. In fact, MSIE for the Mac was made to conform well to these standards. It is unfortunate that MSIE for Windows developers were not able to fully implement the very standards that Microsoft helped write, The reason these are standards is because they were agreed upon by the largest software companies to make sure their products are compatible with one another. The following are the members of the World Wide Web Consortium, as of today. You judge if this group is credible or not. * Abysal Systems, S.A. http://www.abysal.com * Academia Sinica http://www.sinica.edu.tw * Accelio http://www.jetform.com/ * Access Company Limited http://www.access.co.jp/english/ * ACORD Corporation http://www.acord.org * Active Data Exchange http://www.activedatax.com * Adaptive Media ASA http://adaptivemedia.net * Adobe Systems Inc. http://www.adobe.com/ * Advisor Technology Services, LLC http://www.atsllc.com * Agfa-Gevaert N. V. http://www.agfa.com * Agile Software http://www.agilesoft.com * Agital, Inc. http://www.agital.net * Alcatel http://www.alcatel.com * Alis Technologies, Inc. http://www.alis.com * Allegis Corporation http://www.Allegis.com * AlterEgo Networks http://www.aego.com * Altova GmbH http://www.altova.com * Amadee AG http://www.amadee.de * America Online, Inc. http://www.aol.com/ * American Express http://www.americanexpress.com * Antenna House, Inc. http://www.antennahouse.com * APACS http://www.apacs.org.uk/ * Aplix Corporation http://www.aplix.co.jp/ * Apple Computer, Inc. http://www.apple.com/ * Arbortext, Inc. http://www.arbortext.com * Argogroup http://www.argogroup.com * Ariba, Inc. http://www.ariba.com * Art Technology Group http://www.atg.com/ * Artesia Technologies Inc. http://www.artesiatech.com * Ask Jeeves, Inc. http://www.ask.com * ATT http://www.att.com/ * Autodesk, Inc. http://www.autodesk.com * Autonomy, Incorporated http://www.autonomy.com * Auvo Technologies, Inc. http://www.auvo.com * Avaya Communications http://www.avaya.com * BackStream http://www.backstream.com * Baltimore Technologies http://www.baltimore.com * Barbadosoft BV http://www.barbadosoft.com * Bartimeus - Accessibility http://www.accessibility.nl * BEA Systems, Inc. http://www.beasys.com/ * Bertelsmann Foundation http://www.bertelsmann-stiftung.de * BeVocal, Inc. http://www.bevocal.com * BiT Group, Inc. http://www.bitgroup.com * BitFlash Graphics, Inc. http://www.bitflash.com/ * Bitstream, Inc. http://www.Bitstream.com/ * Blast Radius http://www.blastradius.com * The Boeing Company http://www.boeing.com/ * University of Bologna http://www.cs.unibo.it * Bowstreet http://www.bowstreet.com * BPMI.org http://www.bpmi.org * Brience Inc. http://www.brience.com * University of Bristol http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/rdu/w3 * British Broadcasting Corporation http://www.bbc.co.uk/ * British Telecommunications Laboratories http://www.bt.co.uk * Brunel University http://www.brunel.ac.uk/depts/cs * bTrade.com, Inc. http://www.btrade.com * Cacheon, Inc. http://www.cacheon.com * Calico Commerce http://www.calico.com/ * Canon, Inc. http://www.canon.co.jp/ * Cardiff Software http://www.cardiff.com * Center for Democracy and Technology http://www.cdt.org/ * Center for Mathematics and Computer Science (CWI) http://www.cwi.nl/ * Cerisent Corporation http://www.cerisent.com/ * CERN http://www.cern.ch/ * CertCo, Inc. http://www.certco.com * ChevronTexaco http://www.chevrontexaco.com * Chinese University of Hong Kong http://www.cuhk.edu.hk * CINECA http://www.cineca.it * Circadence Corporation http://www.circadence.com * Cisco Systems http://www.cisco.com * CiTEC http://www.citec.fi/ * CITIBANK, N.A. http://www.citibank.com * Citrix Systems (Cambridge) Ltd. http://www.citrix.com * Cloakware Corporation http://www.cloakware.com * CNR--Instituto Elaborazione dell'Informazione http://www.iei.pi.cnr.it * Coalition for Networked Information http://www.cni.org * CollegeNET, Inc. http://www.collegenet.com * Commerce One http://www.commerceone.com/ *
Re: To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
I bow my head and worship you, oh messenger of God. I realy wonder what that blackbox guy's talking about :)
Re: To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
And it came to pass that Legshot wrote:
I bow my head and worship you, oh messenger of God.
I realy wonder what that blackbox guy's talking about :)
I think he either forgot to take his meds, or MIT is letting
chimpanzees access the web again.
I'm leaning towards the meds, though.
--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( Dionysian Reveler
Flyman? Conman more like it. Clive Mitchell
To reply: xjahnATyahooDOTcom
To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
Look the attached picture. Doesnt metter if you are not able to read it.
That is one of the oldest standards; it has thousands of years.
That standard is applied in most simple drawing, in the same way that is
applied in the most complex paint, sculture, building... etc. even if you
didnt realize that you were doing it when you were drawing or etc...
¿How many years is going to live HTML or CSS...?
B L A C K B O X
Brian Heinrich wrote:
Lancer, you are /so/ far out of line here that it isn't even funny. My
knowledge of ancient Greek art (Fidias) and South American surrealists
(Roberto Matta) is a bit shaky, to be sure, but I /am/ familiar with
Joan Miro, Homer, and le Corbusier (tho' I've never much followed
architecture, truth be told).
So what's your point? These people were /artists/, damnit; we're
talking apples and oranges here: /artists/ work to their /own/
standards; the W3C standards serve a /completely/ different function.
And your list isn't even a /good/ one: Where are Bach, Beethoven,
Varèse, Ligeti, Boulez? Joyce, Mann, Dante, Flaubert? Where are the
people who irrevocably changed how we see the world? Where are Marx,
Nietzsche, Freud, Lacan, Einstein, Newton, Galileo? Why no
Michaelangelo or Frank Lloyd Wright? What about Samuel Becket? or
Picasso? Kadinsky?
I have no idea what weird messianic egomaniacal power trip you're on,
but if you think you're going to cow people into submitting to /your/
particular world view, you've /really/ got to do a /lot/ better than
throw out a handful of names that are utterly irrelevant to the point
and that do no more than show up your own lack of understanding of what
you're talking about.
Enough, already!
Brian
--
We sail tonight for Singapore | We're all as mad as hatters here
I've fallen for a tawny moor | Took off to the land of Nod
Drank with all the Chinamen | Walked the sewers of Paris
I danced along a colored wind | Dangled from a rope of sand
You must say goodbye to me
-- Tom Waits, 'Singapore'
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Re: To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
And it came to pass that blackbox wrote:
Look the attached picture. Doesnt metter if you are not
able to read it.
That is one of the oldest standards; it has thousands of
years. That standard is applied in most simple drawing, in
the same way that is applied in the most complex paint,
sculture, building... etc. even if you didnt realize that
you were doing it when you were drawing or etc...
¿How many years is going to live HTML or CSS...?
666 years, of course. Unless you forget to wear your tinfoil
hat shiny side out.
--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( Dionysian Reveler
Oh, you hate your job? Why didn't you say so? There's a support
group for that. It's called EVERYBODY, and they meet at the
bar. - Drew Carey
To reply: xjahnATyahooDOTcom
Re: To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
Christopher Jahn wrote: And it came to pass that Legshot wrote: I bow my head and worship you, oh messenger of God. I realy wonder what that blackbox guy's talking about :) I think he either forgot to take his meds, or MIT is letting chimpanzees access the web again. I'm leaning towards the meds, though. Ditto. You may be joking; I'm not. Brian -- We sail tonight for Singapore | We're all as mad as hatters here I've fallen for a tawny moor | Took off to the land of Nod Drank with all the Chinamen | Walked the sewers of Paris I danced along a colored wind | Dangled from a rope of sand You must say goodbye to me -- Tom Waits, 'Singapore'
Re: To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
¿How many years is going to live HTML or CSS...? Please learn to speak correct English if I am going to take you seriously. Putang ina mo bakla. Bamm
Re: To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
Brian Heinrich Umm . . . wouldn't the more appropriate question be: What on God's good green earth does Euclidean geometry have to do with with HTML or CSS? I have understood, you call standards to html, css, xhtml, xml, etc. that drawing, you said is Euclidean geometry, is a standard, if you dont know. And if you know is Euclidean geometry, then you know how many years it has. so, i ask you again. how many years of life it will have HTML CSS XHTML DHTML XML? this time i did use google
Re: To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
I have understood, you call standards to html, css, xhtml, xml, etc. that drawing, you said is Euclidean geometry, is a standard, if you dont know. And if you know is Euclidean geometry, then you know how many years it has. so, i ask you again. how many years of life it will have HTML CSS XHTML DHTML XML? WHO GIVES A CRAP? Theese are todays web standards... like it or NOT you won't change anything with your useless crap you keep posting here... That whole discussion you started is useless anyway... it's sole purpose is to entertain you with the answers you can joke on... So people PLEASE ignore that infantile kiddie here
Re: To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
Christopher Jahn wrote: And it came to pass that Legshot wrote: I bow my head and worship you, oh messenger of God. I realy wonder what that blackbox guy's talking about :) I think he either forgot to take his meds, or MIT is letting chimpanzees access the web again. I'm leaning towards the meds, though. I'm convinced he's a bot. He's the next incarnation of Mark V. Shaney, I swear.
Re: To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
blackbox wrote: Brian Heinrich Umm . . . wouldn't the more appropriate question be: What on God's good green earth does Euclidean geometry have to do with with HTML or CSS? I have understood, you call standards to html, css, xhtml, xml, etc. that drawing, you said is Euclidean geometry, is a standard, if you dont know. And if you know is Euclidean geometry, then you know how many years it has. so, i ask you again. how many years of life it will have HTML CSS XHTML DHTML XML? this time i did use google Look, it's late and I want to go to bed, and I have *no* idea how to explain this to you. The Euclidean figure you used is axiomatic; it is, therefore, very different from, say, the XHTML 1.0 standard, which is not based on any axiom(s) but rather on a self-consistent DTD (document type definition). Furthermore, given that XML is designed to be *extensible*, any XML application cannot possibly be axiomatic, tho' I suppose SGML could be said to be so. (Anybody able to give me a hand here or to clarify this?) The best I can do is ask you to look the terms up in a good dictionary. I don't know Spanish, so the best I can do is give you French terms that are roughly cognate with the distinction of which I'm thinking; that should give you a place from which to begin, at least. The English 'axiom' comes from the Latin /axioma/; the French is /le axiome/. 'Standard' is a bit trickier; in French, the terms I'm thinking of are /la norme/, /le critère/; there are probably others that I've missed. If that doesn't help, any Spanish terms that would be something like 'etandarde' or 'estandarde' *may* point you in the right direction, tho' they might also send you off on a tangent having to do with military standards; I really don't know. Brian. -- We sail tonight for Singapore | We're all as mad as hatters here I've fallen for a tawny moor | Took off to the land of Nod Drank with all the Chinamen | Walked the sewers of Paris I danced along a colored wind | Dangled from a rope of sand You must say goodbye to me -- Tom Waits, 'Singapore'
Re: To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
I have understood, you call standards to html, css, xhtml, xml, etc. that drawing, you said is Euclidean geometry, is a standard, if you dont know. And if you know is Euclidean geometry, then you know how many years it has. I can answer that one, since I am a mathematician. All of the modern formulas of Physics assume that the world is Non-Euclidean. Spherical geometry, or rather ellipsoidal, is more like it. Relativity would not work if the universe was Euclidean, because Euclidean geometry implies a straight 3-dimensional universe. Therefore, your base assumption that Euclidean geometry is a standard, is false. All conclusions drawn from this are also therefore, false.
Re: To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
LOL LOL LOL LOL this one was really fun! Bamm Gabriana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have understood, you call standards to html, css, xhtml, xml, etc. that drawing, you said is Euclidean geometry, is a standard, if you dont know. And if you know is Euclidean geometry, then you know how many years it has. I can answer that one, since I am a mathematician. All of the modern formulas of Physics assume that the world is Non-Euclidean. Spherical geometry, or rather ellipsoidal, is more like it. Relativity would not work if the universe was Euclidean, because Euclidean geometry implies a straight 3-dimensional universe. Therefore, your base assumption that Euclidean geometry is a standard, is false. All conclusions drawn from this are also therefore, false.
Re: To Bamm Gabriana and All the readers:
blackbox wrote: LOL LOL LOL LOL this one was really fun! You have just proven that you are not to be taken seriously. Guards! Take the brat away.
