Re: Highest MQ volumes

2004-04-15 Thread Adiraju, Rao
Greg

I can't boast that volumes but I can throw my experiences in similar
exercise which may be of help to you:

1) If you are using EVERY, you have to have SHARED initiation queue (no
choice there). System Administration guide clearly say otherwise it might
loose the trigger messages. You have a choice if it is FIRST and DEPTH but
not EVERY.

2) Luckily by Sharing the initiation queue, you are at the maximum
generating 1 million trigger messages

3) Still don't understand the rational of using CKTI and firing one
transaction for every message. CKTI is doing nothing but constantly polling
the initiation queue. So if you could replace the CKTI with home grown
product that does the polling on the base queue itself, you will be saving 1
million trigger message generations. And if necessary this home grown
program can fire off one transaction for message like CKTI.

Whichever way you do, as long as you are running one transaction per message
you should be aware of the following down stream effects (if you haven't all
ready factored in).

In APPC, all these 1 million transactions must be running under various
transaction codes.
Where as with this architecture, all these 1 million transactions will hit
with a single transaction code (and most probably under a single userid).


You need to tune this transaction class, such that it can cope up with that
many parallel executions. After this concurrent limit, CICS stacks up the
outstanding requests and there is a limit (again customisable) even for this
stack. After which CICS tends to loose the subsequent starts without any
errors. Starting transaction gets a successful EXEC CICS START command but
CICS lost those requests, after crossing the stacking limit.

So you need to make this transaction limits as BIG as possible.

Being a single transaction code and single user it is running under, you
need to look in to your CICS - DB2 attachments for this transaction/plan
entry. You should allow maximum thread concurrency etc..

Regarding Security, audit, accounting  charge back you will have lots of
fun and unfortunately I don't have any clear solutions to provide.

At the outset, it looks like to exciting - have fun.

Cheers

Rao

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  We are anticipating 1 million messages in (requests) and up to 4 million
messages out (replies) but more like 2.3 million messages
(replies) out on average within a 24 hour period.   This would be a new
record for message rates (in and out) for us.  Is anyone actually reaching
these numbers in production?  Is anyone going higher?  I am not looking for
a white paper or a Redbook calculation.  Is anyone monitoring on a high
volume day and want to share their volume?  Here is your chance for bragging
rights.

  The input queue is clustered and we were going to use clustered channels
initially.  We plan to later go to shared channels.  We are triggering on
every, to process the messages in parallel using CKTI instead of writing a
separate CICS listener to process in this fashion.
CICS will preload the module after the first couple of triggers to increase
performance for loading.  If we triggered on first, messages would process
serially, not fast enough.  Messages will be non persistent.  I think we
allocated 2GB in the coupling facility.  DB2 is already on the system where
this will run so that isn't a problem.
Processing order is not a factor.

If the shared queue is triggered how many trigger messages will be created?
If I make the initiation queue shared will this reduce the amount of trigger
messages?

Thanks,

-Greg


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A simple calculation gives 12x300byte message per second in and 48x300kbyte
messages out. That's assuming even distribution which just isn't going to
happen so looking at your performance data for the existing app what are
maximum and minimum number of messages you are anticipating?

As for gotchas.
How much headroom do you have in your coupling facility? Especially if your
CICS regions stall. Or are all shutdown although I'm guessing this is
unlikely. Are the messages persistent or non-persistent?

Why are you intending to use trigger every?

Regards
Tim A

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  We are looking at replacing some applications that use APPC(LU6.2) to talk
to CICS with MQ(IP based) and the CICS adapter(CKTI) on zOS.  We will be
sending a request message to a shared queue owned by 4 qmgrs that will be
serviced by multiple CICS trans and could reply with up to
4 messages back to the replyToQueueManager.  We will be triggering on every
message 

Re: Microsoft MQ

2004-04-15 Thread Emile Kearns
MSMQ is a very immature Messaging System compared with MQ, the functionality
and operation does not get close to MQ.

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Fellow forum members, I need your help. We are and MQSeries MQSI shop
running MQ on different platforms including Z/OS. I have been asked why we
shouldn't bring in and integrate M$ MQ. Is it possible to do this? Is there
any reason for not doing this? Has anyone out there done a study on why we
should continue with IBM and not user M$? Any help in this is highly
appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: Comparative study MQSeries, JMS, MSMQ

2004-04-15 Thread Krishan Agarwal

Thanks a lot for the overwhelming response... I now have some arsenal to
shoot.

cheers
Krish



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In summary:

MSMQ is a Microsoft specific product that comes bundled with various
flavours of Windows Server - from windows NT upwards I believe.  Hence NT
Server, Win2K Server and Win2003 Server.  Here you get the MSMQ Server.
You can run clients (dependent or independent) from other versions of the
operating systems mentioned - such as Win2K pro.  However there are a lot
of restrictions to running an MSMQ network - the main one being you can
ONLY run on Windows machines.  Further, you have to have certain Domain and
Active Directory settings as well.  I found MSMQ VERY complicated to set up
- you have to set a whole list of stuff up in loads of places across the
O/S.  One thing I did like however is that you have two sets of Q's -
transacted and non-transacted.  If you want MSMQ to talk to, say, MQSeries,
you must purchase the MSMQ Bridge that is included in the MS Host
Integration Server suite.  Not easy to configure either.  I'm not sure if
there are bridges to other products?

MQSeries is one of the original messaging and queuing systems.  It has
broad platform coverage, is widely used in industries such as Finance for
critical systems.  It has been around for getting on 10 years now.  The
business.

JMS is a Java standard specification.  So each vendor (or provider in JMS
speak) implements the standard however they want.  It is free if you use
Sun's JMS provider that comes as part of the J2EE SDK.  As long as it
provides the services described in the JMS standard then it is JMS.  The
standard does not say anything about inter-communication between DIFFERENT
JMS provider implmentations (that I know of).  To achieve this you either
have to write your own bridge or use a vendor supplied one - such as
Weblogic's MQ Bridge.  JMS can only be used by a calling java application.
The benefit is at the application level - swap out JMS providers at will if
you externalise the provider url etc.  JMS is not a way to link across many
different jms providers domains!

MQSeries supports a large number of different languages as well as a large
number of different platforms so in my opinion beats JMS, which in turn
beats MSMQ.  MSMQ is likely the cheapest option for a homogenous
envioronment if you already have an MS Windows Server estate.  Followed by
JMS which most companies would want to buy from a vendor and gain some kind
of support etc.  And MQSeries is the big daddy where cost is concerned.
But then again, it is the rolls-royce of messaging.

Neil

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Krishan
There is a book - Advanced Messaging Applications with
MSMQ and MQSeries by Rhys Lewis : ISBN.0-7897-2023-X.
This will give you some ammunition.
Chris
--- Mike Kenny - CPX Mngd Services
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 As far as I know

 MSMQ supports amximum message size of 4Mb
 MQ Series is not very strong on pub/sub
 JMS, as stated below, is only an API specification.
 But there are many JMS compliant messaging
 providers, two that you might look at are JBoss and
 openjms, both open source projects

 MQ Series offers some support for JMS, but I do not
 know whether this covers the full API - I do not
 know how one would support pub/sub??

 Mike

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   Krishnan,

   These are not directly comparable.  Both Websphere
 MQ and MSMQ actually
   transport messages.  JMS, on the other hand, is
 simply an API which requires
   an underlying message mover such as the other two.

   -- T.Rob

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   Hi,

I am doing a comparative study of features and
 performance  between
   MQSeries, JMS and MSMQ... will be grateful if
 somebody could pass some docs
   or data they have.. or specify the place where i
 could get it..

   cheers
   krishan

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Re: MSCS Cluster failover problem with MQ5.3

2004-04-15 Thread Erik Klemetti
Erik Klemetti
Hi all,
Thanks for all the responses,
This is not a Real problem since the failover works.
But I was concerned when failing over didn't stop the MQSeries Service as I
expected,
because this could be a sign of some not to obvious problem that I migth
encounter down
the line.
Anyway I have recived several answers saying that this is happening to a lot
of folks and
there is no problem.
Best regards
Erik



Hi Erik,

I only have MQ 5.2 running on the MSCS cluster, not 5.3. So may be there
are
some differences.  However, I don't understand why you concern about the
MQSeries services running on the failing node. Is there a problem?
When MSCS cluster vary off the qmgr from the failing node and bring up the
qmgr from the standby node, the MQ services are always running and both
nodes and it won't be brought down.  So in my case I have 1 active and 1
passive node and the MQ services are running on both nodes all the time.
Only the qmgr is running on 1 node.  This is the same when you have a
standalone PC installed with MQ.  If you don't have qmgr running, you still
have the MQ services running during start up. In my case, I have 3
processes
running, amqsvc (MQ services process), amqmsrvn (DCOM) and amqmtbrn (task
bar icon for MQ services) when no qmgr is up.
BTW, I got the description of the processes from a spreadsheet I received
from the list last year.  I remembered it was prepared by Peter but not
sure. I can send you that if you want but I  am not sure mine is the latest
or not.
Ian

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Hi all,
I have installed mq5.3 csd4 and WMQI2.1 csd5 on a mscs cluster.
everything is working fine except when I failover to the other node the IBM
MQSeries Service does not stop on the node I am failing over from.
I suspected that there migth be a timing issue becuase of the WMQi broker
not being shut down
completly before stopping the mqseries service. But this is not the case.
There are 2 mqseries processes still running after the failover, amqsvc and
amqmsrvn.
I am having a problem finding a descritpion these processes.
I have been looking through the manuals for mqseries and I just can't find
a
description of these processes.
On the web I have found a lot of problems with these processes but no
description.
I can manually stop the mqseries service and it works fine, but I need this
to be automatic when there is a failover.
Anyone out there who have experienced a similar thing or have an idea how
to
solve this.
And if someone have an idea where I could find the descriptions to these
process it would be appriciated.
Best regards
Erik
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Re: amqiclen question

2004-04-15 Thread Bill Anderson
We are an AIX shop, but I use mqipcrm, which is a fairly simple K shell
script. I run it every time I bring a qmgr down with out bouncing the
machine. I believe It was written by an IBM support person, and the are the
ones that gave it to me a year ago or so. It takes no flags at all, and
seems to work fine.

I have never heard of amqiclen, perhaps I should consider taking a look at
it?

Cheers





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I've used amqiclen for HP-UX, but on AIX there seems to be a different set
of switches.  What switches should be set to routinely get rid of any
shared memory segments and semaphores when MQ is brought down?

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M$MQ

2004-04-15 Thread Ward, Mike S
I want to thank everyone on their input about M$MQ especially the unique
experiences. Please continue sharing your opinions and experiences I am
monitoring the list and continue to take notes.


Thanks again.

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Re: amqiclen question

2004-04-15 Thread Rick Tsujimoto
Bill,

It's been around for awhile, but never seemed to made to the admin manual:

Here is item RTA000170159 concerning your inquiry:
Source..: PDDBR  PDDBR
Last updated: 20010724
Abstract:   AMQICLEN HANG HUNG CLEANUP SHMEM SEMAPHORES CHKMQIPC



USERS: ALL USERS with MQSeries HPUX HP

PROBLEM SUMMARY:
 Cust wants to discuss methods for cleaning up shared memory
 and semaphores particularly in their shutdown scripts where they
 have to bring down a queue manager manually by killing off processes.
In
 5.1 they have been using a script developed by Hursley called
 chkmqipc because they could use it to clean up ipc resources from one
 queue manager on a machine where another queue manager was still
 running (without having to end that other queue manager). In 5.2 we
 had suggested they used the utility supplied with the product called
 amqiclen. Cust is having problems trying to use it.


SOLUTION:
 If there is no documentation, then the utility is probably in the
 'unsupported' category, i.e. it is intended for use by MQ support and
 has been issued so it is already installed should support require it
 for any purpose. It is not really intended for customer use. There
 are other 5.2 utilities like this, for authorizations, cluster and
 channel debugging.

 It is not necessary to clear IPC resources if MQ is ended normally,
 nor at 5.2 should it be necessary if MQ is ended abnormally or
 abruptly. CHKMQIPC should indeed continue to work at 5.2. However
 either 5.2 or PB may be cleaning up IPC stuff so chkmqipc has no work
 to do.

 The command line for amqiclen is:
 amqiclen  -v   -c   -m qmgr_name   /var/mqm/mqs.ini
 .
 -v = verbose
 -c = check only (does not ipcrm anything)
 -m = only to clean up named queue manager
 .
 returns:
 0  = OK
 2  = One or more connected process(es)
 2 = unexpected error

 Note: if the input redirection is omitted, the
  /var/mqm/mqs.ini, then amqiclen will 'hang' waiting for input.

 Once cust used the correct syntax for the amqiclen command it did
 work as desired.




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We are an AIX shop, but I use mqipcrm, which is a fairly simple K shell
script. I run it every time I bring a qmgr down with out bouncing the
machine. I believe It was written by an IBM support person, and the are the
ones that gave it to me a year ago or so. It takes no flags at all, and
seems to work fine.

I have never heard of amqiclen, perhaps I should consider taking a look at
it?

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Re: Highest MQ volumes

2004-04-15 Thread Jeff A Tressler
We are triggering on every, to process the messages
in parallel using CKTI instead of writing a separate
CICS listener to process in this fashion. CICS will
preload the module after the first couple of triggers
to increase performance for loading.  If we triggered
on first, messages would process serially, not fast
enough.

Just curious but 1 million requests per 24 hours, even
if distributed evenly is 11 requests per second. 11
requests every second of every day. Not to mention you
will probably experience peaks much higher than this.

I don't know much about CICS I work in the UNIX and
Windows world but seems just the overhead of processing
that many requests would be a waste of resources.

Could you not trigger on first and just spawn enough
threads to handle processing? Or when you brought the
region up preload enough modules to handle the load and
skip the triggering?

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Bruce Lin/Dallas/IBM is out of the office.

2004-04-15 Thread Bruce Lin

I will be out of the office starting  04/15/2004 and will not return until 04/19/2004.

I will respond to your message when I return.

WBIMQ COBOL Packed data

2004-04-15 Thread Robert Broderick
I need to receive a legacy COBOL input with COMP-3 (packed dec) fields into
WBI-MB and convert the PD fields to an output message set defined from the
object decovery agent coming from PeopleSoft. I have the COBOL copybook, I
have the PeopleSoft Object in WBI-MB. What do I need to do in the message
flow. I would expect the origional file extract to be FTP as a binary file
and maybe the JTEXT adapter to move the data in BLOB format to MQ and set up
the MQMD as coming from a legacy system with CCSID 37 and Character Encoding
as 785. Except for the mapping node is there anything else to be done in the
flow??
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big-endian and little-endian

2004-04-15 Thread Potkay, Peter M (PLC, IT)
Kinda interesting, especially that last paragraph!



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WBI MB Version

2004-04-15 Thread Bhapinder Bagar

We have installed the base version of WBI
MB v5.0 on a W2K machine. Note we have not installed a CSD.

I would like to check what the version of
the software is labelled as, without any CSD applied.

When I open the Message Broker Toolkit
and selected Help -- About the Message Broker, the version
of the Message Broker is labelled as 5.0.2

Also when you select, Feature Details
within the About Message Broker screen, Message broker
version is labelled as 5.0.2

I would expect this version to 5.0 or 5.0.1,
with out any CSD installed, has anybody else encountered this issue?

Any comments would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Bhapinder

Re: Brokers running on Solaris 9 and Oracle 9i..

2004-04-15 Thread Mabrito, Greg
You need to be running WMQI 2.1 CSD05 or 06 to use Oracle 9i.  It works
on Solaris 8 or 9.  WMQI 2.1 CSD06 Oracle 9i on Solaris 9 works.  

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/integration/mqfamily/platforms/supported
/wsmq_integ_for_solaris_2_1.html


-Greg


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Subject: Brokers running on Solaris 9 and Oracle 9i..


Is there anyone running their Websphere Integrator V2.1 brokers on
Solaris 9 and Oracle 9i ??? I have found 2 different documents on IBM
website.  One has supported software for V2.1 as Solaris 8 and Oracle
8.1.7.  The other
has supported software as Solaris 8 or 9 and Oracle 8i or 9i.Which
one
do I believe ?

Thanks,
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Problem channel initiator

2004-04-15 Thread Alex A. L. Sousa - BMS








Hi,

    I have installed MQ version 5.3, Fix Pack CSD06, on operating system AIX
V52. I have two queue managers installed.

I have a
script to start MQ:

strmqm QMx

runmqtrm -m QMx 

runmqchi -m QMx 



When the
channel initiatior starts, I receive the message "AMQ9509: Program cannot open queue manager object",
but the channel initiatior starts and works fine.



For information, I had MQ version
5.0 installed, and I removed it (not migration), and install version 5.3.



Thanks
in advance





Alex Augusto Lopes Sousa 
Gerência de Suporte- Basis SAP 
BMS - Belgo Mineira Sistemas S/A 
Tel: (31) 3217-4212  -
Belo Horizonet - Brasil
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Re: WBI MB Version

2004-04-15 Thread Brian S. Crabtree
Bhapinder

You were lucky - WBI MB v5.0 without CSDs didnt work and then you would have
to do research to find out how to get back to a working version

Apparently you have an install at the CSD2 level which is what you want
anyway

Brian S. Crabtree
WBI Consultant
- Original Message -
From: Bhapinder Bagar
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:05 AM
Subject: WBI MB Version



We have installed the base version of WBI MB v5.0 on a W2K machine.  Note we
have not installed a CSD.

I would like to check what the version of the software is labelled as,
without any CSD applied.

When I open the Message Broker Toolkit and selected Help -- About the
Message Broker, the version of the Message Broker is labelled as 5.0.2

Also when you select, Feature Details within the About Message Broker
screen, Message broker version is labelled as 5.0.2

I would expect this version to 5.0 or 5.0.1, with out any CSD installed, has
anybody else encountered this issue?

Any comments would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Bhapinder

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File to Queue Utility

2004-04-15 Thread Robert Broderick
I looked on MQSeries.net but could not find a simular utility. I thought
there was one at www.capitalware.net but that site name brings up another
site. Does someone knoe the capitalware sith spelling AND are there any
other file-to-queue utilities out there. I need one that will let me play
with the MQMD settings on the outgoing message. The incoming file will
contain non-text data so the utility has to have to handle this.
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WebSphere MQ v5.3 and Microsoft Windows 2003

2004-04-15 Thread Joshi, A (Anant)
Hi,

The Configuring WebSphere MQ accounts section of
Windows Quick Beginnings states following in case
any domain controller is on Win2K

1 Create a domain group (a global or universal group) 
2 Give members of this group the authority to query the group membership
of any account 
3 Create one or more user accounts, and add them to the group 
4 Use the accounts to configure each installation of WebSphere MQ 
5 Set the password expiry periods 


I have two questions -

Does the group name HAVE TO BE domain mqm ?
(hard-coded ?)

AND

How important is 2 ?
That particular authority is not allowed under our security policy.



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Re: Problem channel initiator

2004-04-15 Thread Williams, Arlen
Title: Message



You don't need the 
runmqchi command anymore.

Arlen


-Original Message-From: Alex A. L. Sousa - BMS 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:27 
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Problem channel 
initiator

Hi,
 
I have 
installed MQ version 5.3, Fix Pack CSD06, on operating system AIX V52. I have 
two queue managers installed.
I have a 
script to start MQ:
strmqm QMx
runmqtrm -m QMx 
runmqchi -m QMx 

When the 
channel initiatior starts, I receive the message "AMQ9509: Program 
cannot open queue manager object", but the channel initiatior starts and works 
fine.

For 
information, I had MQ version 5.0 installed, and I removed it (not migration), 
and install version 5.3.

Thanks 
in advance


Alex 
Augusto Lopes Sousa Gerência 
de Suporte- Basis SAP BMS 
- Belgo Mineira Sistemas S/A 
Tel: 
(31) 3217-4212 - Belo Horizonet - 
Brasil[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




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Listener dying on HPUX

2004-04-15 Thread Beinert, William
Three times today the listener just up and vanished on me. No error messages, no FDC 
files, no nothing. Just silence, followed by a barrage of phone calls and e-mails as 
monitors and users notice the problem.

I am tempted to run a little shell script that checks to see if the thing is running 
every 2 minutes, while I prepare to upgrade from 5.2 to 5.3 (hoping that will make the 
problem go away).

Has anyone seen something like this? Will a trace help to see what is happening?

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Re: Problem channel initiator

2004-04-15 Thread Gordon Wang



For MQ 5.3 channel initiator is started automatically when QM is 
started.

  -Original Message-From: MQSeries List 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Alex A. L. Sousa - 
  BMSSent: April 15, 2004 2:27 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Problem channel 
  initiator
  
  Hi,
   
  I have 
  installed MQ version 5.3, Fix Pack CSD06, on operating system AIX V52. I have 
  two queue managers installed.
  I have a 
  script to start MQ:
  strmqm QMx
  runmqtrm -m 
  QMx 
  runmqchi -m 
  QMx 
  
  When the 
  channel initiatior starts, I receive the message "AMQ9509: Program 
  cannot open queue manager object", but the channel initiatior starts and works 
  fine.
  
  For 
  information, I had MQ version 5.0 installed, and I removed it (not migration), 
  and install version 5.3.
  
  Thanks in advance
  
  
  Alex 
  Augusto Lopes Sousa Gerência 
  de Suporte- Basis SAP BMS 
  - Belgo Mineira Sistemas S/A 
  Tel: 
  (31) 3217-4212 - Belo Horizonet - 
  Brasil[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  
  
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Re: File to Queue Utility

2004-04-15 Thread Potkay, Peter M (PLC, IT)
http://www.capitalware.biz/



-Original Message-
From: Robert Broderick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: File to Queue Utility


I looked on MQSeries.net but could not find a simular utility. I thought
there was one at www.capitalware.net but that site name brings up another
site. Does someone knoe the capitalware sith spelling AND are there any
other file-to-queue utilities out there. I need one that will let me play
with the MQMD settings on the outgoing message. The incoming file will
contain non-text data so the utility has to have to handle this.

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Re: Problem channel initiator

2004-04-15 Thread Ken Woloschuk



Does 
this link shed any light on your problem?

http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=0q1=amq9509+channel+initiatoruid=swg2024loc=en_UScs=utf-8cc=uslang=en

  -Original Message-From: MQSeries List 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Alex A. L. Sousa - 
  BMSSent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:27To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Problem channel 
  initiator
  
  Hi,
   
  I have 
  installed MQ version 5.3, Fix Pack CSD06, on operating system AIX V52. I have 
  two queue managers installed.
  I have a 
  script to start MQ:
  strmqm QMx
  runmqtrm -m 
  QMx 
  runmqchi -m 
  QMx 
  
  When the 
  channel initiatior starts, I receive the message "AMQ9509: Program 
  cannot open queue manager object", but the channel initiatior starts and works 
  fine.
  
  For 
  information, I had MQ version 5.0 installed, and I removed it (not migration), 
  and install version 5.3.
  
  Thanks in advance
  
  
  Alex 
  Augusto Lopes Sousa Gerência 
  de Suporte- Basis SAP BMS 
  - Belgo Mineira Sistemas S/A 
  Tel: 
  (31) 3217-4212 - Belo Horizonet - 
  Brasil[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  
  
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Re: File to Queue Utility

2004-04-15 Thread Nick Dilauro
The IH03 support pack allows you to read an entire file and write it as a
message (text or not).  It also allows entry of some of the mqmd fields.

Nick


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Broderick
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: File to Queue Utility

I looked on MQSeries.net but could not find a simular utility. I thought
there was one at www.capitalware.net but that site name brings up another
site. Does someone knoe the capitalware sith spelling AND are there any
other file-to-queue utilities out there. I need one that will let me play
with the MQMD settings on the outgoing message. The incoming file will
contain non-text data so the utility has to have to handle this.

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Re: WebSphere MQ v5.3 and Microsoft Windows 2003

2004-04-15 Thread Neil Casey
My experience with this leads me to believe the following:

1, The group name does have to be 'domain mqm'. The mq code looks for this
as a special case. The manual says:
a.   Enter the name domain mqm (use this exact string, because it is
understood and used by WebSphere MQ). 

2. The authority to query group membership is required if you want users
who are logged on to the domain to be able to use MQSeries. If all of your
MQ users on that system are local users, then it may not be required. If
the server where MQ is itself a domain controller, then it is required as
there are no local userids on a domain controller.

Note: If all the MQ users are local, and the server is not a domain
controller, then you probably don't need a domain mqm group at all. You
can just use a local security group (mqm) and MUSR_MQADMIN, just like on
Windows NT.

Regards,

Neil Casey
National Australia Bank
Southern Star Technology
WebSphere MQ Support
1/122 Lewis Rd Wantirna South
office. +61 3 9886 2375 (x82375)
mobile. +61 414 615 334



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Hi,

The Configuring WebSphere MQ accounts section of
Windows Quick Beginnings states following in case
any domain controller is on Win2K

1 Create a domain group (a global or universal group)
2 Give members of this group the authority to query the group membership
of any account
3 Create one or more user accounts, and add them to the group
4 Use the accounts to configure each installation of WebSphere MQ
5 Set the password expiry periods


I have two questions -

Does the group name HAVE TO BE domain mqm ?
(hard-coded ?)

AND

How important is 2 ?
That particular authority is not allowed under our security policy.



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Re: File to Queue Utility

2004-04-15 Thread Awerbuch, David
bobbee,

First, did you look at 'q' supportpac MA01
(http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=203uid=swg24000647loc=en_UScs=
utf-8lang=en) - perhaps it does what you need.

Next, look at www.capitalware.biz, file2msg utility
(http://www.capitalware.biz/dl/code/c/file2msg.zip).

Then, depending on the format of the message(s), you might be able to use
Roger's own  MQVE utility.  Download the trial and see if it helps; I
purchased it already myself, and do consider a worthwhile investment.

Then, there is always MQJExplorer, by Neil Kolban
(http://www.kolban.com/mqjexplorer/)  I use this tool all the time.

Good luck.
Dave A.


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I looked on MQSeries.net but could not find a simular utility. I thought
there was one at www.capitalware.net but that site name brings up another
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other file-to-queue utilities out there. I need one that will let me play
with the MQMD settings on the outgoing message. The incoming file will
contain non-text data so the utility has to have to handle this.

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Re: File to Queue Utility

2004-04-15 Thread Roger Lacroix
Hi Bobbee,

Both suffixes .net and .org should take you to www.capitalware.biz

The program that I have is called:  File2Msg
The direct link to it is:
http://www.capitalware.biz/sample_mqseries.html#ccode
Run the utility without the -s option and it will treat the file as binary
data.
Regards,
Roger Lacroix
Capitalware Inc.
http://www.capitalware.biz
At 03:47 PM 4/15/2004, you wrote:
I looked on MQSeries.net but could not find a simular utility. I thought
there was one at www.capitalware.net but that site name brings up another
site. Does someone knoe the capitalware sith spelling AND are there any
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contain non-text data so the utility has to have to handle this.
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Re: File to Queue Utility

2004-04-15 Thread Christopher Warneke
Robert,
Try this support pack...
MO60: MQSeries for AIX - Message browser
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=203uid=swg24000125loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en

There is a source file that you can download.

Good luck,
Chris

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 I looked on MQSeries.net but could not find a
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 spelling AND are there any
 other file-to-queue utilities out there. I need one
 that will let me play
 with the MQMD settings on the outgoing message. The
 incoming file will
 contain non-text data so the utility has to have to
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Re: File to Queue Utility

2004-04-15 Thread Tony Devitt
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Re: Queue Alias usage

2004-04-15 Thread Christopher Warneke
What platform are you trying to determine this on?
The m/f logs will tell you what was accessed and when,
as will racf if you audit security.  Maybe the smf
type126 records will have info that you can use.
look at support pack mo12 to review the logs.
Chris

--- Adiraju, Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fellas

 Is there any way to see whether a Queue Alias is
 being  used by the
 applications and when it has been LAST accessed.  I
 am not talking about
 Qstatus type(handle).

 I am embarking on cleaning up our MQ resources and
 there are few dangling
 Queue Aliases which I am planning to delete.

 I need to absolutely make sure no one is using
 these. Other than asking each
 and every application, are there any commands I can
 run to find out whether
 they are used since the creation and when it was
 accessed last.

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Pub/Sub between different Domains (MQSI 2.1)

2004-04-15 Thread WR
How can I set up two different Domains (ie, two groups of Brokers
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Re: File to Queue Utility

2004-04-15 Thread Robert Broderick
Roger,
Does it break up the file into records. The doc didn't seem to imply this.
The file will have packed data in it. Is there a chance it could falsely hit
EOL.

From: Roger Lacroix [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: File to Queue Utility
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:38:18 -0400
Hi Bobbee,

Both suffixes .net and .org should take you to www.capitalware.biz

The program that I have is called:  File2Msg
The direct link to it is:
http://www.capitalware.biz/sample_mqseries.html#ccode
Run the utility without the -s option and it will treat the file as binary
data.
Regards,
Roger Lacroix
Capitalware Inc.
http://www.capitalware.biz
At 03:47 PM 4/15/2004, you wrote:
I looked on MQSeries.net but could not find a simular utility. I thought
there was one at www.capitalware.net but that site name brings up another
site. Does someone knoe the capitalware sith spelling AND are there any
other file-to-queue utilities out there. I need one that will let me play
with the MQMD settings on the outgoing message. The incoming file will
contain non-text data so the utility has to have to handle this.
bobbee

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