Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Support for Musicbrainz ratings

2013-08-16 Thread Grant
 You can always extend the mpd protocol through stickers, adding there
 the rating to the meta. But that would be your own implementation. I
 don't know about any way of obtaining it but through hacks.

Thank you.  I suppose I can just refer to musicbrainz.org whenever I
want the info.

- Grant


 Do any mpd clients support Musicbrainz ratings in any capacity?  If
 not, does anyone have a suggestion for keeping track of which tracks I
 like?  I just switched from gmpc to cantata but I'd like to find a
 method that works across clients.

 - Grant

 Is there no method for this sort of thing?

 - Grant

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Support for Musicbrainz ratings

2013-08-16 Thread Grant
 musicbrainz is for gathering metadata. Ratings are totally personal.

Sure but musicbrainz also gathers ratings and displays the averages:

http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Rating_System

- Grant

P.S. Estoy en Donostia. :)  Aste nagusia!


 You can always extend the mpd protocol through stickers, adding there
 the rating to the meta. But that would be your own implementation. I
 don't know about any way of obtaining it but through hacks.

 Thank you.  I suppose I can just refer to musicbrainz.org whenever I
 want the info.

 - Grant


 Do any mpd clients support Musicbrainz ratings in any capacity?  If
 not, does anyone have a suggestion for keeping track of which tracks I
 like?  I just switched from gmpc to cantata but I'd like to find a
 method that works across clients.

 - Grant

 Is there no method for this sort of thing?

 - Grant

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Support for Musicbrainz ratings

2013-08-16 Thread Grant
 musicbrainz is for gathering metadata. Ratings are totally personal.

 Sure but musicbrainz also gathers ratings and displays the averages:

 http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Rating_System

I should also add that the musicbrainz client picard can tag music
files with the ratings.

- Grant


 You can always extend the mpd protocol through stickers, adding there
 the rating to the meta. But that would be your own implementation. I
 don't know about any way of obtaining it but through hacks.

 Thank you.  I suppose I can just refer to musicbrainz.org whenever I
 want the info.

 - Grant


 Do any mpd clients support Musicbrainz ratings in any capacity?  If
 not, does anyone have a suggestion for keeping track of which tracks I
 like?  I just switched from gmpc to cantata but I'd like to find a
 method that works across clients.

 - Grant

 Is there no method for this sort of thing?

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Support for Musicbrainz ratings

2013-08-16 Thread Grant
 musicbrainz is for gathering metadata. Ratings are totally personal.

 Sure but musicbrainz also gathers ratings and displays the averages:

 http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Rating_System
 Didn't know about that. Anyway, musicbrainz would be like a metadata
 service, and I don't know about the mpd dev team opinion, but I have
 seen somewhere that rating, along with album covers, etc. may be the
 mpd client the one that manages that stuff, not planned to be in mpd.

Agreed and I think my original post explains why I posted here.

 P.S. Estoy en Donostia. :)  Aste nagusia!
 Aste nagusia es en Bilbao ;) (mañana txupinazo 18:00)

Y Donostia:

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Support for Musicbrainz ratings

2013-08-15 Thread Grant
 Do any mpd clients support Musicbrainz ratings in any capacity?  If
 not, does anyone have a suggestion for keeping track of which tracks I
 like?  I just switched from gmpc to cantata but I'd like to find a
 method that works across clients.

 - Grant

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[Musicpd-dev-team] Support for Musicbrainz ratings

2013-08-12 Thread Grant
Do any mpd clients support Musicbrainz ratings in any capacity?  If
not, does anyone have a suggestion for keeping track of which tracks I
like?  I just switched from gmpc to cantata but I'd like to find a
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[Musicpd-dev-team] mpd won't connect to jack

2010-05-05 Thread Grant
I can't get mpd to play via jack, although 'aplay -Djackplug file.wav'
works fine.  I get this in mpd.log:

output: Failed to enable Jack [jack]: Failed to connect to JACK
server, status=17

I'm using the latest mpd from git and my mpd.conf config is:

audio_output {
   type jack
   name Jack
}

Am I doing something wrong or should I file a bug?

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[Musicpd-dev-team] Can mpd recognize WAV and AIFF tags?

2010-05-05 Thread Grant
Apparently WAV has been extended with support for metadata and named
Broadcast WAV Format:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_Wave_Format

Does mpd support metadata in WAV and AIFF files?  I would find out for
myself but my tagger (picard) doesn't tag either format yet, although
it is in the works.

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] mixer-based replaygain support

2010-05-04 Thread Grant
 It looks like mixer-based replaygain support has been implemented
 which is great.  Can anyone tell me how to use it?

 As documented in the user manual (doc/user.xml).

I tried replay_gain_handler as specified in doc/user.xml but I get an
unrecognized parameter in config file error.  I also tried
replaygain_handler which better coincides with the old replaygain
parameters, but the error remains.  I'm using the latest mpd from git.

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] mixer-based replaygain support

2010-05-04 Thread Grant
 It looks like mixer-based replaygain support has been implemented
 which is great.  Can anyone tell me how to use it?

 As documented in the user manual (doc/user.xml).

 I tried replay_gain_handler as specified in doc/user.xml but I get an
 unrecognized parameter in config file error.  I also tried
 replaygain_handler which better coincides with the old replaygain
 parameters, but the error remains.  I'm using the latest mpd from git.

 - Grant

My mistake, I didn't realize replay_gain_handler belongs inside of the
audio_output block.

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] S24_3LE output?

2010-01-08 Thread Grant
 Is S24_3LE packed 24-bit?

 Yes.

 I apologize if this is the same question, but would the current
 Redbook-mpd-ALSA-DAC conversions present the exact same bytes to
 the DAC as Redbook-mpd-DAC if mpd were outputting S24_3LE?

 Red book?  That's a CD standard and it is 16 bit by definition.  MPD
 can not play CDs.

I should have been more clear about what I meant.

Would a 16-bit file converted to 32-bit by mpd and then converted to
S24_3LE by ALSA be bit-for-bit identical to a 16-bit file converted to
S24_3LE by mpd if mpd it were able to do so?

- Grant

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] S24_3LE output?

2010-01-05 Thread Grant
 Can mpd be made to output S24_3LE?

 No, not without a patch.

 What format does mpd output?

 - Grant

Demian mentioned that mpd outputs in a 32-bit format.  I'm wondering
if 16-bit audio converted to 32-bit by mpd, and then converted to
S24_3LE by ALSA would end up adding noise?  I brought this up on the
ALSA list and they basically said it depends on how mpd converts to
32-bit.

It depends on how the bits are added. Usually the bits added are low
order bits-- this is to ensure that roundoff error does not keep
adding noise to the system, and to use a common calculational track no
matter wha the input, and so they use a size that is bigger then any
possible. On the other hand they may want extra headroom and add the
padding at the high end instead.

Can anyone here shed any light on how mpd does this, and whether or
not 16-32-24 would add noise in this case?

- Grant

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] S24_3LE output?

2010-01-03 Thread Grant
 Can mpd be made to output S24_3LE?

 No, not without a patch.

What format does mpd output?

- Grant

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] does not support format 16: Invalid argument

2009-12-30 Thread Grant
 When I specify the following:

 device hw:0,0

 my DAC fails with:

 output: Failed to open Wavelength Proton [alsa]: ALSA device
 hw:0,0 does not support format 16: Invalid argument

 I get the same message with 24: substituted for 16: if I try to
 play a 24-bit file.  Does this look like an mpd problem, or a problem
 with my DAC?  It supports both 16-bit and 24-bit playback.

 - Grant

I switched to the default device in mpd, wrote an ALSA asound.conf
that is equivalent to hw:0,0, and I get the same results as above.  I
think this means there is a problem with the DAC as opposed to mpd.
Does that sound right?

- Grant

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] does not support format 16: Invalid argument

2009-12-30 Thread Grant
 When I specify the following:

 device hw:0,0

 my DAC fails with:

 output: Failed to open Wavelength Proton [alsa]: ALSA device
 hw:0,0 does not support format 16: Invalid argument

 I get the same message with 24: substituted for 16: if I try to
 play a 24-bit file.  Does this look like an mpd problem, or a problem
 with my DAC?  It supports both 16-bit and 24-bit playback.

 - Grant

 I switched to the default device in mpd, wrote an ALSA asound.conf
 that is equivalent to hw:0,0, and I get the same results as above.  I
 think this means there is a problem with the DAC as opposed to mpd.
 Does that sound right?

 - Grant

The manufacturer of the DAC has assured me that it enumerates
perfectly and without error with both Mac and Windows.  Is this an
ALSA issue?

- Grant

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[Musicpd-dev-team] does not support format 16: Invalid argument

2009-12-29 Thread Grant
When I specify the following:

device hw:0,0

my DAC fails with:

output: Failed to open Wavelength Proton [alsa]: ALSA device
hw:0,0 does not support format 16: Invalid argument

I get the same message with 24: substituted for 16: if I try to
play a 24-bit file.  Does this look like an mpd problem, or a problem
with my DAC?  It supports both 16-bit and 24-bit playback.

- Grant

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[Musicpd-dev-team] mixer-based replaygain

2009-10-22 Thread Grant
A while back I suggested having replaygain operate on a mixer:

http://www.mail-archive.com/musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net/msg2.html

Is anyone still interested in this?

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[Musicpd-dev-team] How does mpd 16-24?

2009-06-16 Thread Grant
I've been using mpd and libsamplerate to upsample 16/44.1 to 24/96,
but I'm being told on the libsamplerate list that sox would be
required to go from 16-bit to 24-bit.  Does mpd use sox for this?

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Best Sinc Interpolator

2009-06-16 Thread Grant
  I've got Best working after switching from oss to alsa in audio_output.
 
  I cannot imagine how OSS or ALSA could have any impact on the
  resampler.  Can you give me an oprofile report of both configurations?
  I'm curious who is really wasting all those CPU cycles.

 I've installed oprofile.  Can you tell me how you'd like it to be run
 to get the info you need?

 Start playing in MPD, start oprofile, wait a minute, then stop
 oprofile.  Generate a report with opreport -g --symbols.  Clear the
 oprofile data, and repeat with OSS.

 If you can, specify a vmlinux image when starting oprofile, because
 that allows oprofile to list details within the kernel.

 Max

I've moved upsampling duties from mpd to dmix with the following in
/etc/asound.conf:

defaults.pcm.rate_converter samplerate_best
pcm.!default {
type plug
slave.pcm {
type dmix
ipc_key 1024
slave {
pcm hw:0,0
format S24_3LE
rate 96000
}
}
}

but the mpd process still uses almost 100% CPU according to top.
Should the mpd process be the one using all the CPU even though dmix
is the one resampling?  Another confusing thing is I tried playing the
same file with mplayer and almost no CPU is used although it is also
going through dmix.

Does this behavior make sense?  Is an oprofile report necessary here?

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[Musicpd-dev-team] Pre-resampling

2009-06-13 Thread Grant
mpd uses a lot of CPU when resampling 16/44.1-24/96 with the Best
libsamplerate resampler.  Is there a tool I can use to resample using
this resampler and save the result to a 24/96 file so mpd doesn't have
to do it on the fly?

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Best Sinc Interpolator

2009-06-04 Thread Grant
 how 'bout upsampling to 48KHz?  It should sound significantly better
 than 44.1KHz.

 No, every resampling process reduces the (theoretical) quality of the
 file.  Now if a 44.1 file upsampled to 96 sounds better than native
 44.1 playback, then that must be a hardware quirk.  Maybe the sound
 chip has a fixed sample rate, and plugs a poor hardware resampler in
 front of it.

I think so too.  The manufacturer actually suggested I upsample on the computer.

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Best Sinc Interpolator

2009-06-03 Thread Grant
 Upsampling works, but only multiples of the native source - ie 44.1
 to 96 the computer is not powerful enough. however 44.1 to 88.2 or
 176.4 works also. Don't even try Secret Rabbit Code upsampling in
 Foobar, would stall right from the first second with the processor at
 100%!!

 http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/24192-USB-20-beer-budget-EMU-0404-mini-review?page=1

 This was written about Windows of course, but it describes my same
 problem.  44.1-96 is too much for the CPU.  Are you sure this isn't
 normal?

 That *might* be true for MPD, too, but we don't know currently.  My
 point was: even if libsamplerate eats all your CPU, then switching
 between OSS and ALSA shouldn't make any difference.  I'm curious
 what's the real cause of this.

OK, I'll try to get that report together.

 Why are you resampling to 96 kHz anyway?

My DAC sounds much better with libsamplerate upsampling than sending
16/44.1 to it.  Upsampling to 88.1 is a lot easier on the CPU, but it
doesn't sound quite as good.

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Best Sinc Interpolator

2009-05-29 Thread Grant
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Max Kellermann m...@duempel.org wrote:
 On 2009/05/12 21:20, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've got Best working after switching from oss to alsa in audio_output.

 I cannot imagine how OSS or ALSA could have any impact on the
 resampler.  Can you give me an oprofile report of both configurations?
 I'm curious who is really wasting all those CPU cycles.

I still need to figure out oprofile, but I read this:

Upsampling works, but only multiples of the native source - ie 44.1
to 96 the computer is not powerful enough. however 44.1 to 88.2 or
176.4 works also. Don't even try Secret Rabbit Code upsampling in
Foobar, would stall right from the first second with the processor at
100%!!

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/24192-USB-20-beer-budget-EMU-0404-mini-review?page=1

This was written about Windows of course, but it describes my same
problem.  44.1-96 is too much for the CPU.  Are you sure this isn't
normal?

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] For a HOWTO: First mpd version with 24-bit support?

2009-05-14 Thread Grant
 I'm writing a HOWTO on getting 24-bit music playback working in Linux.
  Is mpd the only music app with 24-bit support?  Which mpd version was
 the first with 24-bit support?

 MPD 0.14 is the first version to feature 24 bit support.  MPD 0.15
 adds 32 bit support.  See NEWS.

 Please submit your text to our wiki page.

 Max

Thank you, will do.

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] 24-bit file plays on a 16-bit DAC?

2009-05-14 Thread Grant
 I got it working with alsa by specifying plughw:0 instead of hw:0.

 plughw enables half of dmix - i.e. the part of libasound which
 does the resampling and sample format conversion.  That means that
 ALSA will automatically convert 24-16 if the hardware isn't 24 bit
 capable.

I do hear glitches with plughw:0 that I don't hear when using OSS.
It sounds like distortion during the music's peaks.  I guess this is
due to libasound?

 Another option could be that your device doesn't support the 24-in-32
 format, but only the packed 24 bit format.  That's not supported by
 MPD (yet).  There are so many different sample formats and packing
 standards...

I checked with the manufacturer on this and they don't think a USB DAC
can support 24-in-32 because the USB driver would chop off anything
above 24.  Do you think this explains why hw:0 doesn't work?  The
DAC supports up to 24/96.

 I believe that the ALSA-OSS emulation enables dmix, and therefore also
 plughw.

I definitely hear glitches from plughw and none when OSS is defined.

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] 24-bit file plays on a 16-bit DAC?

2009-05-14 Thread Grant
 I believe that the ALSA-OSS emulation enables dmix, and therefore also
 plughw.

 Max

I really don't think mpd-oss-dmix because I tried specifying a
format my DAC can't handle in /etc/asound.conf for dmix.  aplay and
all other ALSA apps won't work, but mpd still plays.

- Grant

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[Musicpd-dev-team] For a HOWTO: First mpd version with 24-bit support?

2009-05-13 Thread Grant
I'm writing a HOWTO on getting 24-bit music playback working in Linux.
 Is mpd the only music app with 24-bit support?  Which mpd version was
the first with 24-bit support?

Thanks,
Grant

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] 24-bit file plays on a 16-bit DAC?

2009-05-12 Thread Grant
 My USB DAC is only capable of 16/44.1  16/48 and doesn't do any sort
 of oversampling (non-OS).  I tried playing a 24/96 file in gmpc and it
 plays just fine.  This is puzzling since I have:

 audio_output {
         type                    alsa
         name                    USB Monica
         device                  hw:0,0
 }

 Shouldn't audio be passed off directly to the DAC in this
 configuration, without dmix resampling it?

 Not exactly.  MPD sees that your card cannot do 24 bit, so it converts
 internally - and it logs that (--verbose).  That's usually better than
 letting dmix it do transparently.

 Max

 Hi Max,

 I've finally got my hands on a 24-bit USB DAC and some 24/96 files,
 and it works with mpd, but I'm seeing some strange behavior.

 I couldn't get mpd to play with any specification of device such as
 hw:0,0.  It plays if I don't specify audio_output at all, but the DAC
 LEDs indicate 16/48 so dmix must be at work.

 It does play and LEDs do indicate 24/96 if I specify this:

 audio_output {
  type  oss
  name  USB DAC
 }

 I'm not familiar with OSS at all.  Does dmix get involved with OSS, or
 does OSS have something similar that I might prefer to bypass?  I'm
 trying to send music from the filesystem to the DAC untouched.  Any
 other reason to prefer ALSA over OSS?

 Do you have any idea why the DAC doesn't work when hw:0,0 is specified?  I 
 get:

 # aplay -L
 null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
 # cat /proc/asound/devices
  0: [ 0]   : control
  1:        : sequencer
  16: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback
  33:        : timer
 # cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [USBDAC         ]: USB-Audio - USBDAC

 Otherwise 24-bit support works great in mpd.  Thanks for coding that up!

 - Grant

I got it working with alsa by specifying plughw:0 instead of hw:0.

- Grant

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Feature Request: ratings from Musicbrainz

2009-01-24 Thread Grant
 Musicbrainz is comglomerating ratings of artists, albums, and tracks
 on its website.  This is a great feature and it would be great to see
 mpd support displaying those ratings at some point.

 This could be done now outside MPD with the new sticker database.  A
 client could copy ratings from Musicbrainz to MPD stickers.

 What we still need is support for Musicbrainz tags.  Will add that
 soon.

 Max

Thanks, sounds good.

- Grant

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Feature Request: ratings from Musicbrainz

2009-01-24 Thread Grant
 Musicbrainz is comglomerating ratings of artists, albums, and tracks
 on its website.  This is a great feature and it would be great to see
 mpd support displaying those ratings at some point.

 This could be done now outside MPD with the new sticker database.  A
 client could copy ratings from Musicbrainz to MPD stickers.

 What we still need is support for Musicbrainz tags.  Will add that
 soon.

 Max

By the way, thanks for adding albumartist support in git.  I'm
enjoying that thoroughly.  Lot's of VA albums here

- Grant

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Feature Request: ratings from Musicbrainz

2009-01-24 Thread Grant
 What we still need is support for Musicbrainz tags.  Will add that
 soon.

 By the way, I have just added support for MusicBrainz tags.

 Have fun! :-)

 Max

Bonanza! :)

- Grant

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Feature Request: ratings from Musicbrainz

2009-01-24 Thread Grant
 What we still need is support for Musicbrainz tags.  Will add that
 soon.

 By the way, I have just added support for MusicBrainz tags.

 Have fun! :-)

 Max

Does the client need to support them too?  Have you added all MBz tags?

- Grant

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Feature Request: ratings from Musicbrainz

2009-01-24 Thread Grant
 Does the client need to support them too?  Have you added all MBz tags?

 See git:

  
 http://git.musicpd.org/cgit/master/mpd.git/commit/?id=30e288067529080b9d8ac124af27b7f9522ab152

 Easy patch, isn't it?

 These are the ones which are most important for us, I think.

 To do anything useful with these tags, the client has to support them,
 yes.

What kind of stuff could a client do with access to that info?

- Grant

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[Musicpd-dev-team] No WAV support?

2009-01-21 Thread Grant
gmpc isn't picking up a few WAV files I have.  Is there no support in
mpd for WAV?  How about AIFF?

- Grant

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[Musicpd-dev-team] albumartist support?

2008-12-18 Thread Grant
Hello, are there plans for mpd to support albumartist?

- Grant

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