List processing in Mutt

[Cliff Sarginson]

Hello,
I am a little bit confused about how Mutt decides
something is part of one of your subscribed lists or 
not. I have a number of subscribe lines in my rc, and
most of the time it works fine. Sometimes however
it does not, often in a thread, it seems to fail to recognise
particular messages as being part of a subscribed
list. I will give an example (I have falsified the
email addresesses, except my own and the lists).

This messages is as seen in the list in one of the threads:


Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538)
id C095437B401; Thu,  1 Nov 2001 22:18:34 -0800 (PST)
Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 1 Nov 2001
22:18:34 -0800Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: I wish it was Linux
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 17:15:47 +1100
To: "Donald Duck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
From: Rob B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lockdown of FreeBSD machine directly on Net
Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In-Reply-To: <003e01c16364$262d7fc0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-ID: 
List-Archive:  (Web Archive)
List-Help:  (List
Instructions)
List-Subscribe:
+
List-Unsubscribe:
+
X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG
Precedence: bulk
X-Match: whitelist
Status: RO
Content-Length: 1303
Lines: 36


Next is a reply to the above message, that is not seen as being in
the list


>From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Nov  2 09:49:35 2001
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538)
id 0170E37B406; Fri,  2 Nov 2001 00:43:30 -0800 (PST)
Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 2 Nov 2001
00:43:30 -0800Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 48513 invoked by uid 100); 2 Nov 2001 08:43:14 -
From: Prince Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 02:43:14 -0600
To: "Donald Duck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lockdown of FreeBSD machine directly on Net
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid
X-face:
"5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG%
 *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-ID: 
List-Archive:  (Web Archive)
List-Help:  (List
Instructions)
List-Subscribe:
+
List-Unsubscribe:
+
X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG
Precedence: bulk
X-Match: whitelist
Status: RO
Content-Length: 1619
Lines: 34


The subscribe line is:

subscribe freebsd-questions

Thanks !

-- 
Regards
Cliff

Re: listing a resum of many mailboxes when starting mutt ?

[Truong]

David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Truong, et al --
> 
> By the way, would you mind setting your line wrap at 72 characters or so?
> It makes it much easier to read, and most folks on this list are staunchly
> ASCII-only and appreciate the formatting.
> 

Oh.., I didn't realize that, excuse me ! 

> 
> ...and then Truong said...
> % 
> % Petr Baudis [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> % > > 
> ...
> % > > I would like to view a resume of different incoming mailboxes just before
> % > > selecting one. Some thing I would have with " [..]$ du $HOME/Mail/ "
> ...
> % > > The command "mailboxes" is indicated in section 3.11 "Defining mailboxes .."
> % > > mutt-manual.txt.gz . But it doesn't work .
> % > Sure it doesn't? Try to press 'c', then '?' to list content of ~/Mail/, and
> ...
> % 
> % Hi Petr,
> % 
> % Yes, I know to run "[..]$ mutt -y" to list all files defined with the command 
>mailboxes , and also keys binding 'c' to change to others files then '?' to select 
>one . For this, the manual wroted by Micheal Elkin and others veteran mutt-users is 
>quite clear . Your idea about alias in bashrc is also a good point, I will put it in 
>mine .
> 
> Good so far.
> 
> 
> % 
> % Well, I missed some descriptions: as you see, each time the key 'c' is pressed (or 
>in console mode 'mutt -y'), we can see a resume of all mail-files with amount in 
>bytes . What I would like to see more is the number of mails in each file, something 
>like when I start 'mutt' without option and the $spoolfile is shown with that 
>information (number of mails). 
> 
> I think I get it.  mutt does not know how many messages are in a mailbox
> until it opens it, and it could be very expensive to open every mailbox
> just to count messages before giving you the display.  Instead mutt
> checks the access and modification times to determine whether or not
> there is new mail (quiet, Rob! ;-) and can, of course, check the raw
> size.
> 
> 
> % 
> % I think of some macro menu format . There are surely already the solution(s) but I 
>didn't find yet in the manual, that's why I would like to learn from mutt-users .
> 
> Actually, there probably isn't.  This, like the "do I have new mail?"
> topic,  comes up fairly often.  Most folks say "I want mutt to tell
> me such-and-such" without realizing what it takes to provide that
> information, but there's always some smart aleck (it was I last time)
> who shows quickly and simply why it would take way too much time; after
> all, mutt can happily handle huge mailboxes :-)
> 

Yes, if you know that I've tried Mutt since 1 week and I adopt it.
You know the reasons better than me.

You are right here: I didn't realize it could be expensive in 
comparaison with few keys "c", "?", "j" (or "k") and hit RETURN.

Thanks again for your clear anwser !


> 
> % 
> % I hope I explain correctly the question this time .
> 
> I hope I explained the correct answer :-)
> 
> 
> % 
> % Thanks for your discussions,
> 
> HTH & HAND
> 
> 
> % 
> % Truong,
> % 
> 
> 
> :-D
> -- 
> David T-G  * It's easier to fight for one's principles
> (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie
> (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!
> 

Re: listing a resum of many mailboxes when starting mutt ?

[David T-G]

Truong --

...and then Truong said...
% David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
% > Truong, et al --
% > 
% > By the way, would you mind setting your line wrap at 72 characters or so?
...
% 
% Oh.., I didn't realize that, excuse me ! 

Thanks so much :-)


% 
% > ...and then Truong said...
% > % 
...
% > % I think of some macro menu format . There are surely already the solution(s) but 
I didn't find yet in the manual, that's why I would like to learn from mutt-users .
% > 
% > Actually, there probably isn't.  This, like the "do I have new mail?"
...
% > who shows quickly and simply why it would take way too much time; after
% > all, mutt can happily handle huge mailboxes :-)
% > 
% 
% Yes, if you know that I've tried Mutt since 1 week and I adopt it.
% You know the reasons better than me.

Oh; I forgot to say "welcome to mutt!" :-)


% 
% You are right here: I didn't realize it could be expensive in 
% comparaison with few keys "c", "?", "j" (or "k") and hit RETURN.

Don't feel bad; that's pretty typical.  It seems simple, right?


% 
% Thanks again for your clear anwser !

Hey, that's the best thing I've heard all week! :-)


:-D
-- 
David T-G  * It's easier to fight for one's principles
(play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie
(work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!


 PGP signature

Re: asking to move messages into mbox

[Lance Simmons]

On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 01:28:01PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
> 
> Not directly, AFAIK, but a macro to remap 'c' and 'q' to first set $move
> before continuing the operation might do the trick nicely.  Something like
> 
>   macro index c "set move=no;"
>   macro index q "set move=ask-no;"

I can't seem to get this to work. Can you set variables in a macro?

-- 
Lance Simmons

Re: asking to move messages into mbox

[Rob 'Feztaa' Park]

On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 11:25:52AM -0600, Lance Simmons (dis)graced my inbox with:
> On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 01:28:01PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
> > 
> > Not directly, AFAIK, but a macro to remap 'c' and 'q' to first set $move
> > before continuing the operation might do the trick nicely.  Something like
> > 
> >   macro index c "set move=no;"
> >   macro index q "set move=ask-no;"
> 
> I can't seem to get this to work. Can you set variables in a macro?

You sure can, but I don't know what trouble you are having. I just
looked at some of the macros in my .muttrc, and they look the same.
Perhaps you spelled something wrong when you copied it over?

-- 
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
In college, Biology is really Chemistry, Chemistry is really Physics,
Physics is really Calculus, and Calculus is really hard.

Re: List processing in Mutt

[Bruno Postle]

On Sat 03-Nov-2001 at 11:06:16AM -0500, Rich Lafferty wrote:
> 
> (In case you haven't already gone "D'oh!":)

Am I the only person who got a huge windows virus tagged onto the end of
that email?

-- 
Bruno

Re: List processing in Mutt

[Rob 'Feztaa' Park]

On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 05:47:44PM +, Bruno Postle (dis)graced my inbox with:
> On Sat 03-Nov-2001 at 11:06:16AM -0500, Rich Lafferty wrote:
> > 
> > (In case you haven't already gone "D'oh!":)
> 
> Am I the only person who got a huge windows virus tagged onto the end of
> that email?

All I saw was his PGP signature attached to that email. ;)

-- 
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
"Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"
-- H.M. Warner, Warner Brothers, 1927

Forcing mutt not to use SSL

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Hi folks

I've got mutt 1.3.23i compiled with ssl (on freebsd) <- ya I know, I'm
not using it right now, this is an ancient mutt on an ancient box I have
a shell on :)

I usually access one of my accounts by polling my imap server using
fetchmail, and reading the mail locally from my /var/mail spool.

However, in some cases (such as when I'm traveling, or when there's a
huge sircam or other mail that I want to delete on the server) I have a
problem -

I set the certificate_file variable, and pointed my mutt at
{mail.myisp.com}inbox - however, I ran into a problem.

That IMAP server advertises STARTTLS in its CAPABILITY string, but does
not respond to TLSv1, SSL v2 or SSL v3 :(

fetchmail: IMAP< * OK Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-2001 Double
Precision,
Inc.  See COPYING for distribution information.
fetchmail: IMAP> A0001 CAPABILITY
fetchmail: IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 CHILDREN NAMESPACE
THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT
 THREAD=REFERENCES SORT STARTTLS
fetchmail: IMAP< A0001 OK CAPABILITY completed

How do I force mutt to ignore the STARTTLS?

-srs

Re: Forcing mutt not to use SSL

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Gah.  TFM says "ssl_starttls" right next to all those options I was
looking at - and I missed it :(  I'm an idiot


-srs


*[Suresh Ramasubramanian on Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 10:08:09AM -0800]:
> Hi folks
> fetchmail: IMAP< * OK Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-2001 Double
> Precision,
> Inc.  See COPYING for distribution information.
> fetchmail: IMAP> A0001 CAPABILITY
> fetchmail: IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 CHILDREN NAMESPACE
> THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT
>  THREAD=REFERENCES SORT STARTTLS
> fetchmail: IMAP< A0001 OK CAPABILITY completed
> 
> How do I force mutt to ignore the STARTTLS?
> 
>   -srs

Re: List processing in Mutt

[Cliff Sarginson]

On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 11:06:16AM -0500, Rich Lafferty wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 11:53:18AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
>wrote:
> > 
> > This messages is as seen in the list in one of the threads:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > Next is a reply to the above message, that is not seen as being in
> > the list
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  
> > The subscribe line is:
> > 
> > subscribe freebsd-questions
> 
> (In case you haven't already gone "D'oh!":)
> 
> The second one was sent to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", not
> "freebsd-questions", so the subscribe line doesn't match.
> 
Mmm, oops.
I don't think [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a valid address,
so how comes I got it ?  That was a rhetorical question, btw.

Victim of my own assumptions again .. *sigh*.
Procmail filters it nicely for me, but my rule is
obviously very liberal here.

Thanks for pointing out something I should have noticed
myself.

-- 
Regards
Cliff

Re: List processing in Mutt

[David T-G]

Bruno --

...and then Bruno Postle said...
% On Sat 03-Nov-2001 at 11:06:16AM -0500, Rich Lafferty wrote:
% > 
% > (In case you haven't already gone "D'oh!":)
% 
% Am I the only person who got a huge windows virus tagged onto the end of
% that email?

No; I got it, too (a 3060 line message is hard to miss).  Interestingly
enough, though, I had to pump the message through less to find it, and
then there were some other headers at the top.  To wit:

  Return-Path: <"^\^L ^A^L^A"@prodigy.net.mx>
  Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Received: (qmail 2622 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2001 16:12:49 -
  Received: from rcul.uni-lj.si (193.2.64.43)
by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 3 Nov 2001 16:12:49 -
  Received: from sarlat.torinadom ("port 64900"@[193.2.72.71])
by Uni-Lj.si (PMDF V5.2-32 #41715) with SMTP id
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 17:12:46 CET
  Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 17:13:10 +0100
  From: @prodigy.net.mx
  Subject: NEMCIJA
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I wonder why it didn't show up in the attachments list even though it
looked like a valid MIME separator between the sig and this stuff...

Best of all, I wonder how it got on there; Rich used mutt to send the
mail, not Outhouse...


% 
% -- 
% Bruno


:-D
-- 
David T-G  * It's easier to fight for one's principles
(play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie
(work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!


 PGP signature

Re: asking to move messages into mbox

[David T-G]

Lance --

...and then Lance Simmons said...
% On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 01:28:01PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
% > 
% > Not directly, AFAIK, but a macro to remap 'c' and 'q' to first set $move
% > before continuing the operation might do the trick nicely.  Something like
% > 
% >   macro index c "set move=no;"
% >   macro index q "set move=ask-no;"
% 
% I can't seem to get this to work. Can you set variables in a macro?

I never said it was guaranteed; it's untested code :-)  Yes, you can set
variables in macros, or do just about anything else (I actually have
found one thing that I can't yet macro or push, but I haven't had time to
try it even further...).

Check the manual for more on how to create macros; this seems like pretty
straightforward stuff.  Maybe you need an  instead of a semicolon
to separate the commands, it occurs to me as I read them again...


% 
% -- 
% Lance Simmons


:-D
-- 
David T-G  * It's easier to fight for one's principles
(play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie
(work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!


 PGP signature

Re: Forcing mutt not to use SSL

[David T-G]

Suresh --

...and then Suresh Ramasubramanian said...
% 
% Gah.  TFM says "ssl_starttls" right next to all those options I was
% looking at - and I missed it :(  I'm an idiot

Only this week, though; we forgive you.  You might use that mallet on
yourself for good measure, though ;-)


% 
% 
%   -srs


:-D
-- 
David T-G  * It's easier to fight for one's principles
(play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie
(work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!


 PGP signature

Re: List processing in Mutt

[Justin R. Miller]

Thus spake Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> > Am I the only person who got a huge windows virus tagged onto the
> > end of that email?
> 
> All I saw was his PGP signature attached to that email. ;)

I saw neither.

-- 
Justin R. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
PGP/GnuPG Key ID 0xC9C40C31 (preferred)

 PGP signature

Re: asking to move messages into mbox

[David T-G]

Lance --

...and then Lance Simmons said...
...
% Mail-Followup-To: Lance Simmons ,
%   Mutt Users' List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It seems that your M-F-T: header is a bit mucked up.  Amazingly my friend
MAILER-DAEMON came back and told me that there is no user named lance at
my server; go figure ;-)


:-D
-- 
David T-G  * It's easier to fight for one's principles
(play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie
(work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!


 PGP signature

Re: List processing in Mutt

[Bruno Postle]

On Sat 03-Nov-2001 at 10:56:51AM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
> > 
> > Am I the only person who got a huge windows virus tagged onto the end of
> > that email?
> 
> All I saw was his PGP signature attached to that email. ;)

Strange, the email I got from gbnet.net _definitely_ had a big virus
attached:

> Nov  3 17:21:27 owl postfix/smtpd[6488]: connect from 
>agent57.gbnet.net[194.70.126.12]
> Nov  3 17:21:27 owl postfix/smtpd[6488]: 862FB2B10D: 
>client=agent57.gbnet.net[194.70.126.12]
> Nov  3 17:21:27 owl postfix/cleanup[6489]: 862FB2B10D: 
>message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Nov  3 17:21:34 owl postfix/qmgr[12853]: 862FB2B10D: 
>from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=223281 (queue active)
> Nov  3 17:21:35 owl postfix/smtpd[6488]: disconnect from 
>agent57.gbnet.net[194.70.126.12]


-- 
Bruno

Re: List processing in Mutt

[Lars Hecking]

Bruno Postle writes:
> On Sat 03-Nov-2001 at 11:06:16AM -0500, Rich Lafferty wrote:
> > 
> > (In case you haven't already gone "D'oh!":)
> 
> Am I the only person who got a huge windows virus tagged onto the end of
> that email?

 I never saw it because it was rejected on my mail gateway.

 Yes, Rich's message was infected with the SirCam virus. The pgp sig was
 attachment 3, the virus was attachment 4. You can inspect the complete
 message at

  http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mutt-users&m=100480801725434&w=2

 This is quite interesting. Attachment 4 is a complete message to the list
 moderator (Steve K), so I'm wondering where and how exactly it got attached.
 It doesn't look like the virus came from Rich (which would have surprised
 me massively ;-)

Re: asking to move messages into mbox

[Nicolas Rachinsky]

On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 01:17:21PM -0500, David T-G 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lance --
> 
> ...and then Lance Simmons said...
> % On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 01:28:01PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
> % > 
> % > Not directly, AFAIK, but a macro to remap 'c' and 'q' to first set $move
> % > before continuing the operation might do the trick nicely.  Something like
> % > 
> % >   macro index c "set move=no;"
> % >   macro index q "set move=ask-no;"
> % 
> % I can't seem to get this to work. Can you set variables in a macro?
> 
> I never said it was guaranteed; it's untested code :-)  Yes, you can set
> variables in macros, or do just about anything else (I actually have
> found one thing that I can't yet macro or push, but I haven't had time to
> try it even further...).
> 
> Check the manual for more on how to create macros; this seems like pretty
> straightforward stuff.  Maybe you need an  instead of a semicolon
> to separate the commands, it occurs to me as I read them again...

untested! 
I would try
":set move=no"

Re: List processing in Mutt

[Rob 'Feztaa' Park]

On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 01:13:46PM -0500, David T-G (dis)graced my inbox with:
> % On Sat 03-Nov-2001 at 11:06:16AM -0500, Rich Lafferty wrote:
> % > 
> % > (In case you haven't already gone "D'oh!":)
> % 
> % Am I the only person who got a huge windows virus tagged onto the end of
> % that email?
> 
> No; I got it, too (a 3060 line message is hard to miss).  Interestingly
> enough, though, I had to pump the message through less to find it, and
> then there were some other headers at the top.  To wit:

Wow, I can't believe I didn't see that! D'oh ;)

> Best of all, I wonder how it got on there; Rich used mutt to send the
> mail, not Outhouse...

That User-Agent header could have been spoofed... 

-- 
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
The probability of a given even occurring is inversely proportional to it's 
desirability.

 PGP signature

Re: List processing in Mutt

[Rob 'Feztaa' Park]

On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 06:27:58PM +, Bruno Postle (dis)graced my inbox with:
> On Sat 03-Nov-2001 at 10:56:51AM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
> > > 
> > > Am I the only person who got a huge windows virus tagged onto the end of
> > > that email?
> > 
> > All I saw was his PGP signature attached to that email. ;)
> 
> Strange, the email I got from gbnet.net _definitely_ had a big virus
> attached:

Not strange, I got it to... I just didn't notice at first... :-/

-- 
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
"There are a number of mechanical devices that increase sexual arousal, particularly 
in women. Chief amongst these is the Mercedes-Benz 380L convertible."
-- PJ O'Rourke

Re: List processing in Mutt

[Rob 'Feztaa' Park]

On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 11:44:15AM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park (dis)graced my inbox with:
> > Best of all, I wonder how it got on there; Rich used mutt to send the
> > mail, not Outhouse...
> 
> That User-Agent header could have been spoofed... 

Before I stick my foot any farther into my mouth, I should say... the
email could have been hacked in transit, I wasn't actually trying to say
that Rich was using Windoze...

-- 
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
The fact that windows is one of the most popular ways to operate a computer
means that evolution has made a general fuckup and our race is doomed.

 PGP signature

Re: List processing in Mutt

[David T-G]

Rob --

...and then Rob 'Feztaa' Park said...
% On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 11:44:15AM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park (dis)graced my inbox 
with:
% > > Best of all, I wonder how it got on there; Rich used mutt to send the
% > > mail, not Outhouse...
% > 
% > That User-Agent header could have been spoofed... 
% 
% Before I stick my foot any farther into my mouth, I should say... the
% email could have been hacked in transit, I wasn't actually trying to say
% that Rich was using Windoze...

Heh...  You *were* digging an awfully big hole ;-)


% 
% -- 
% Rob 'Feztaa' Park
% [EMAIL PROTECTED]
% --
% The fact that windows is one of the most popular ways to operate a computer
% means that evolution has made a general fuckup and our race is doomed.


:-D
-- 
David T-G  * It's easier to fight for one's principles
(play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie
(work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!


 PGP signature

Compressed Folders Patch/ multiple instances of mutt

[Nicolas Rachinsky]

AFAIK it is possible and harmless to have multiple Instances of mutt
running and accessing the same folders.

I want to ask if anybody knows if that's still true when using
compressed folders (to let multiple instances of mutt access the same
compressed folder at the same time).

thanks
Nicolas

Re: List processing in Mutt

[MuttER]

On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 05:47:44PM +, Bruno Postle wrote:
> On Sat 03-Nov-2001 at 11:06:16AM -0500, Rich Lafferty wrote:
> > 
> > (In case you haven't already gone "D'oh!":)
> 
> Am I the only person who got a huge windows virus tagged onto the end of
> that email?
> 
> -- 
> Bruno
---end quoted text---

didn't get it ere ??
-- 
Pat Shanahan   Registered Linux User #207535
Registered at: http://counter.li.org

Which format to store very big mailfolders?

[Christian Hammers]

Hi

What would you suggest to store very big mailfolders i.e. all my mail
from one month. maildir and mbox seems to be equal slow in both, grepping,
and loading (indexing) in mutt. Cool would probably be maildir (easy use
with standard unix tools) with a kind of index file that automatically
recognise additions and removals of maildir files.

Anybody implemented such an idea or does anybody have a better idea?

bye,

 -christian-

Re: List processing in Mutt

[Will Yardley]

Cliff Sarginson wrote:

> Mmm, oops.
> I don't think [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a valid address,
> so how comes I got it ?  That was a rhetorical question, btw.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] == [EMAIL PROTECTED] - both addresses
work (and people tend to send to both).

just add both to your subscribe line and you'll be ok.

sorry for responding to your rhetorical question :P

w

-- 
GPG Public Key:
http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/

Re: Which format to store very big mailfolders?

[Will Yardley]

Christian Hammers wrote:
> 
> What would you suggest to store very big mailfolders i.e. all my mail
> from one month. maildir and mbox seems to be equal slow in both,
> grepping, and loading (indexing) in mutt. Cool would probably be
> maildir (easy use with standard unix tools) with a kind of index file
> that automatically recognise additions and removals of maildir files.
> 
> Anybody implemented such an idea or does anybody have a better idea?

you don't mention what type of filesystem you're on. certain filesystems
are known to be pretty slow with Maildir style mailboxes (ie ext2fs)
once they start to get really big.  in theory maildir should be faster.

you might also try sorting by date/date instead of threads/date when
opening large folders.

the maildir threading algorithm has been improved since the version of
mutt you appear to be using, so if possible, you should upgrade to the
newest dev release.

check the archives for a very similar discussion a month or so back.

w

-- 
GPG Public Key:
http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/

Re: List processing in Mutt

[Byrial Jensen]

On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 13:13:46 -0500, David T-G wrote:
> Bruno --
> 
> ...and then Bruno Postle said...
> % 
> % Am I the only person who got a huge windows virus tagged onto the end of
> % that email?
> 
> No; I got it, too (a 3060 line message is hard to miss).  Interestingly
> enough, though, I had to pump the message through less to find it, and
> then there were some other headers at the top.  To wit:
 
> I wonder why it didn't show up in the attachments list even though it
> looked like a valid MIME separator between the sig and this stuff...

Mutt doesn't show it because Mutt is MIME-compliant. The message just
had a huge (over 3000 lines!) epilogue, which it ignored as it should.

RFC 2046 says:

   There appears to be room for additional information prior to the
   first boundary delimiter line and following the final boundary
   delimiter line.  These areas should generally be left blank, and
   implementations must ignore anything that appears before the first
   boundary delimiter line or after the last one.

   NOTE:  These "preamble" and "epilogue" areas are generally not used
   because of the lack of proper typing of these parts and the lack of
   clear semantics for handling these areas at gateways, particularly
   X.400 gateways.  However, rather than leaving the preamble area
   blank, many MIME implementations have found this to be a convenient
   place to insert an explanatory note for recipients who read the
   message with pre-MIME software, since such notes will be ignored by
   MIME-compliant software.

My sircam weirdness and Steve K's mailbox

[Rich Lafferty]

I have a theory as to what happened with that message I sent that was
delivered to the list with another message, containing sircam,
dangling off the end.

I just sent a reply to Lars's post about that message, in that thread,
and immediately got back a "queued for moderator approval"
message. I'm subscribed as <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, but I had sent
both the corrupted message and that reply to Lars from
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

So, my message would have landed in Steve's moderator mailbox. Part of
his mail system reacted poorly to the control characters in the
message following and didn't separate it out as a separate
message. When Steve went to hand-approve the message, he used mutt,
which we've found doesn't show the corrupted bits on the end.

If Steve uses mbox, then it's pretty easy to figure out where the
problem might have originated, because that's a particularly mbox-ish
sort of corruption.

(And just think, if that other message didn't have sircam, we might
never have found out that there was a problem.)

Cheers,

  -Rich

-- 
Rich Lafferty --+---
 Ottawa, Ontario, Canada|  Save the Pacific Northwest Tree Octopus!
 http://www.lafferty.ca/|http://zapatopi.net/treeoctopus.html
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ---+---

 PGP signature