Re: How might deleted messages be put in some setup for trash and fully deleted later?
On Mi, 19 Jul 2017, Don Saklad wrote: > How might deleted messages be put in some setup for trash then if no > exceptions fully deleted later? :set trash= Have a look at the manual. Note this feature has been available as a patch in older versions, but recent mutt versions support this feature natively. regards, Christian -- CCI Power 6/40: one board, a megabyte of cache, and an attitude...
Re: How might deleted messages be put in some setup for trash and fully deleted later?
* Don Saklad <dsak...@gnu.org> [07-19-17 16:18]: > How might deleted messages be put in some setup for trash then if no > exceptions fully deleted later? instead of deleting on first look, save them to a folder intended for deletion later and then delete from that folder when you feel like it. ps, your editor does not line wrap and < 78 chars. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
How might deleted messages be put in some setup for trash and fully deleted later?
How might deleted messages be put in some setup for trash then if no exceptions fully deleted later?
Re: mutt does not more purge deleted messages
Good day, On 2016-01-29 00:31:16 Jostein Berntsen hacked into the keyboard: > - Do you use mutt with the trash patch? > http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/patches/#trash The output of mutt shows: [ command 'mutt -v' ]--- Mutt 1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Copyright (C) 1996-2009 Michael R. Elkins und andere. Mutt übernimmt KEINERLEI GEWÄHRLEISTUNG. Starten Sie »mutt -vv«, um weitere Details darüber zu erfahren. Mutt ist freie Software. Sie können es unter bestimmten Bedingungen weitergeben; starten Sie »mutt -vv« für weitere Details. System: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 (x86_64) ncurses: ncurses 5.9.20110404 (compiled with 5.9) libidn: 1.25 (compiled with 1.25) hcache backend: tokyocabinet 1.4.47 Einstellungen bei der Compilierung: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_POP +USE_IMAP +USE_SMTP -USE_SSL_OPENSSL +USE_SSL_GNUTLS +USE_SASL +USE_GSS +HAVE_GETADDRINFO +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_PGP +CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_SMIME +CRYPT_BACKEND_GPGME -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +COMPRESSED +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_LIBIDN +HAVE_GETSID +USE_HCACHE -ISPELL SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail" MAILPATH="/var/mail" PKGDATADIR="/usr/share/mutt" SYSCONFDIR="/etc" EXECSHELL="/bin/sh" MIXMASTER="mixmaster" Um die Entwickler zu kontaktieren, schicken Sie bitte eine Nachricht (auf Englisch) an <mutt-...@mutt.org>. Um einen Fehler zu melden, besuchen Sie bitte http://bugs.mutt.org/. misc/am-maintainer-mode features/ifdef features/xtitles features/trash-folder But this would mean, mutt move the messages to another folder right? This is not desired. However, if I change the folder, I see mutt say "deleting NN messages"... but nothing happen. features/purge-message Can it be, that this is faulty? features/imap_fast_trash features/sensible_browser_position features-old/patch-1.5.4.vk.pgp_verbose_mime features/compressed-folders features/compressed-folders.debian debian-specific/Muttrc debian-specific/Md.etc_mailname_gethostbyname.diff debian-specific/use_usr_bin_editor.diff debian-specific/correct_docdir_in_man_page.diff debian-specific/dont_document_not_present_features.diff debian-specific/document_debian_defaults debian-specific/assumed_charset-compat debian-specific/467432-write_bcc.patch debian-specific/566076-build_doc_adjustments.patch misc/define-pgp_getkeys_command.diff misc/gpg.rc-paths misc/smime.rc upstream/531430-imapuser.patch upstream/537818-emptycharset.patch upstream/543467-thread-segfault.patch upstream/542817-smimekeys-tmpdir.patch upstream/548577-gpgme-1.2.patch upstream/553321-ansi-escape-segfault.patch upstream/568295-references.patch upstream/547980-smime_keys-chaining.patch upstream/528233-readonly-open.patch upstream/228671-pipe-mime.patch upstream/383769-score-match.patch upstream/578087-header-strchr.patch upstream/603288-split-fetches.patch upstream/537061-dont-recode-saved-attachments.patch upstream/608706-fix-spelling-errors.patch upstream/620854-pop3-segfault.patch upstream/611412-bts-regexp.patch upstream/624058-gnutls-deprecated-set-priority.patch upstream/624085-gnutls-deprecated-verify-peers.patch upstream/584138-mx_update_context-segfault.patch upstream/619216-gnutls-CN-validation.patch upstream/611410-no-implicit_autoview-for-text-html.patch upstream/path_max upstream/CVE-2014-0467.patch upstream/771125-CVE-2014-9116.patch misc/579967-fixes-german-translation.patch mutt.org > - Upgrade mutt to v. 1.5.23 to get a version with man bug fixes Have tried it, but there is no change... The deleted messages stay in the box forever as "deleted" and are not purged > - Restart your mail server? It is a local filesystem. GMail and my Courier-IMAP have no problems with purging deleted messages > - Check your system/mail logs if anything happened around 6 hours ago Nothing. Not even an update! > Jostein -- Michelle KonzackITSystems GNU/Linux Developer 0033-6-61925193
Re: mutt does not more purge deleted messages
Good day Jostein, On 2016-01-29 00:31:16 Jostein Berntsen hacked into the keyboard: > Have some updates happened on your system recently? Some things to > check: No > - Do you use mutt with the trash patch? > http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/patches/#trash You mean > - Upgrade mutt to v. 1.5.23 to get a version with man bug fixes I am currently bound to Debian Wheeze 7.8 because the shit with systemd which does not work for me. I will try to get/make a backport > - Restart your mail server? Purging of deleted message is working wit GMail and my intranet server (courier) but NOT, if I access a private Maildir local without IMAP. > - Check your system/mail logs if anything happened around 6 hours ago Nothing, but I have edited something in my mutt configs and now it is not more working. Anything is working fine with IMAP, so I did not care but then I discovered the problem with the direct (file) access to a Maildir. -- Michelle KonzackITSystems GNU/Linux Developer 0033-6-61925193
mutt does not more purge deleted messages
Good evening, I do not know, what I have done, but since arround 6 hours, mutt does not purge deleted messages IF I access a "Maildir" localy without IMAP! set delete=ask-yes is unchanged for ages and it works perfectly with GMail my Intranet- and public Mail-Server. "$" does not work anymore for local directories... Any suggestions what I could have doen wrong? Note: I accidentally deleted a backup of mu ~/.mutt/ folder, hence no recovery possibel. Thanks in avance -- Michelle KonzackITSystems GNU/Linux Developer 0033-6-61925193
Re: mutt does not more purge deleted messages
On 29.01.16,00:08, Michelle Konzack wrote: Good evening, I do not know, what I have done, but since arround 6 hours, mutt does not purge deleted messages IF I access a "Maildir" localy without IMAP! set delete=ask-yes is unchanged for ages and it works perfectly with GMail my Intranet- and public Mail-Server. "$" does not work anymore for local directories... Any suggestions what I could have doen wrong? Note: I accidentally deleted a backup of mu ~/.mutt/ folder, hence no recovery possibel. Have some updates happened on your system recently? Some things to check: - Do you use mutt with the trash patch? http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/patches/#trash - Upgrade mutt to v. 1.5.23 to get a version with man bug fixes - Restart your mail server? - Check your system/mail logs if anything happened around 6 hours ago Jostein
Re: set up trash for deleted messages
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 07:34:24AM +0100, Francis Moreau wrote: however if mutt considers to implement a very low quality trash, what does that mean ? 1/ Mutt developpers are lazy ;) 2/ There are so few people needing a trash by default that it really doesn't worth to implement a trash 3/ Mutt folks consider that having a trash is a bad idea and they don't want to push people in using it. I think a combination of 2+3. But I would really like to see cd's trash folder patch integrated into mutt. I think there are enough reasons that this approach is better than the macro approach, and there are enough people who like to have a trash folder, that it makes sense to do this. w
Re: set up trash for deleted messages
On Wed 16.Jan.08 07:34, Francis Moreau wrote: however if mutt considers to implement a very low quality trash, what does that mean ? 1/ Mutt developpers are lazy ;) 2/ There are so few people needing a trash by default that it really doesn't worth to implement a trash 3/ Mutt folks consider that having a trash is a bad idea and they don't want to push people in using it. My choice is obviously not 1/. I can't believe in the second point so I can only see 3/ therefore my initial question. Sorry, but I have nothing to add to what Kyle (thoroughly) explained to help you understand this. -- redondos signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: set up trash for deleted messages
On Jan 14, 2008 6:28 PM, Kyle Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, January 14 at 05:59 PM, quoth Francis Moreau: On Jan 14, 2008 5:59 PM, John Velman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This works for me ( in .muttrc). _ # poor mans trash Honestly I'm wondering what's wrong with Trash. It seems that Trash is not really welcome in Mutt. By what metric? The fact that support for it isn't built-in (added via two simple hooks or via the trash patch linked on the mutt webpage: http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/patches/#trash) or are you seeing some sort of wider hostility to the existence of folders with that name? Yes. And poor man's trash comment doesn't sound that having a trash is a clever idea. ISTR to see this comment on mutt website too. One way of understanding mutt's approach to email is as an email viewer. Mutt, given a folder, does its level best to manage that folder of email. Mutt is not targetted to managing a large collection of many folders of email; it has no support for searching multiple mailboxes at the same time, displaying messages from multiple mailboxes, displaying messages from multiple accounts, automatically transferring messages from an INBOX to other folders when you open the INBOX, etc. When viewing the contents of a folder, mutt makes *no* assumptions about the existence of ANY other folder or account. In that sense, mutt approaches mail very differently from other email applications: mutt does it on a folder-by-folder basis, while other applications (e.g. Thunderbird) approach it on an account-by-account basis. When you think about email on an account-by-account basis, things like folders with special purposes makes more sense. Thus, in other applications, delete means move to the account's Trash folder makes sense, while in mutt delete means mark the message as deleted makes more sense (why would mutt assume that you have (or should have) a special folder for deleted messages? By moving the message to a Trash folder, you are losing the information about where it came from.). Right but is it really the point of having a Trash ? Having a Trash is just a way to keep some no more usefull mails for an amount of time because I can wrongly assume that I won't need them. I really think that a lot of people have already deleted some mails then a couple of days/weeks later wants to read them back. Who haven't done such mistake ? When searching for old information in Trash, I don't care if mutt doesn't know where that email came from. I could easily decide where to put this email if I want to keep it. However, you can easily make mutt behave more like an email is an account program by using hooks and other configuration features, and if that isn't enough, you can even patch mutt to add the functionality in a form you find personally palatable. No doubt you can do that other ways. But that was not my point. I was wondering what was bad to have a trash... Thanks -- Francis
Re: set up trash for deleted messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Francis Moreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-15-08 03:39]: I was wondering what was bad to have a trash... Your answer: Nothing is wrong with having a trash container. You are welcome to have a trash container if you wish one. It is as simple as that. It is also fine to not have one for those of us who do not want one. There are two sides to the coin. My way to deal with trash is to automagically six weeks of duplicate messages and a search utility. It's about choice, it's linux/mutt. - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHjLklClSjbQz1U5oRAukGAJoCBKpbUXEvodIOdqhhvuPH65Ht6wCdFKFn x1yFKsHnuUdxJXKNMKK16rk= =XNXE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: set up trash for deleted messages
On Tue 15.Jan.08 09:38, Francis Moreau wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 6:28 PM, Kyle Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, January 14 at 05:59 PM, quoth Francis Moreau: It seems that Trash is not really welcome in Mutt. By what metric? The fact that support for it isn't built-in (added via two simple hooks or via the trash patch linked on the mutt webpage: http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/patches/#trash) or are you seeing some sort of wider hostility to the existence of folders with that name? Yes. And poor man's trash comment doesn't sound that having a trash is a clever idea. ISTR to see this comment on mutt website too. You're probably just not familiar with the term. In this world, poor man's something means that this something is done in a very low quality way, as if it were an imitation of an original idea for which a full implementation would take more effort to achieve. You can read other sources such as Wikipedia or UrbanDictionary for more (probably better) definitions. -- redondos signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: set up trash for deleted messages
On Jan 15, 2008 11:05 PM, Angel Olivera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue 15.Jan.08 09:38, Francis Moreau wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 6:28 PM, Kyle Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, January 14 at 05:59 PM, quoth Francis Moreau: It seems that Trash is not really welcome in Mutt. By what metric? The fact that support for it isn't built-in (added via two simple hooks or via the trash patch linked on the mutt webpage: http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/patches/#trash) or are you seeing some sort of wider hostility to the existence of folders with that name? Yes. And poor man's trash comment doesn't sound that having a trash is a clever idea. ISTR to see this comment on mutt website too. You're probably just not familiar with the term. In this world, poor And you're probably right since my english doesn't really rock ;) man's something means that this something is done in a very low quality way, as if it were an imitation of an original idea for which a full implementation would take more effort to achieve. however if mutt considers to implement a very low quality trash, what does that mean ? 1/ Mutt developpers are lazy ;) 2/ There are so few people needing a trash by default that it really doesn't worth to implement a trash 3/ Mutt folks consider that having a trash is a bad idea and they don't want to push people in using it. My choice is obviously not 1/. I can't believe in the second point so I can only see 3/ therefore my initial question. -- Francis
Re: set up trash for deleted messages
On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 02:15:45PM +1100, hce wrote: Hi, I saw some discussions on how to set up a trash for deleted messages, but could not find details. Could anyone show me: (a) a setup command to move all deleted messages to a trash file? (b) A key bind to delete messages in trash permanently? Thank you. Jim This works for me ( in .muttrc). _ # poor mans trash folder-hook . 'macro index d save-message=trashenter' folder-hook =trash 'macro index d delete-message' - I'm no expert, but apparently the first line puts everything in the trash folder when you delete from to current folder (.). The second line allows you to actually _delete_ stuff when you delete from the trash folder. (I forgot where I got this -- I certainly didn't invent it myself.) Best, John Velman
Re: set up trash for deleted messages
On Jan 14, 2008 5:59 PM, John Velman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This works for me ( in .muttrc). _ # poor mans trash Honestly I'm wondering what's wrong with Trash. It seems that Trash is not really welcome in Mutt. -- Francis
Re: set up trash for deleted messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, January 14 at 05:59 PM, quoth Francis Moreau: On Jan 14, 2008 5:59 PM, John Velman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This works for me ( in .muttrc). _ # poor mans trash Honestly I'm wondering what's wrong with Trash. It seems that Trash is not really welcome in Mutt. By what metric? The fact that support for it isn't built-in (added via two simple hooks or via the trash patch linked on the mutt webpage: http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/patches/#trash) or are you seeing some sort of wider hostility to the existence of folders with that name? One way of understanding mutt's approach to email is as an email viewer. Mutt, given a folder, does its level best to manage that folder of email. Mutt is not targetted to managing a large collection of many folders of email; it has no support for searching multiple mailboxes at the same time, displaying messages from multiple mailboxes, displaying messages from multiple accounts, automatically transferring messages from an INBOX to other folders when you open the INBOX, etc. When viewing the contents of a folder, mutt makes *no* assumptions about the existence of ANY other folder or account. In that sense, mutt approaches mail very differently from other email applications: mutt does it on a folder-by-folder basis, while other applications (e.g. Thunderbird) approach it on an account-by-account basis. When you think about email on an account-by-account basis, things like folders with special purposes makes more sense. Thus, in other applications, delete means move to the account's Trash folder makes sense, while in mutt delete means mark the message as deleted makes more sense (why would mutt assume that you have (or should have) a special folder for deleted messages? By moving the message to a Trash folder, you are losing the information about where it came from.). However, you can easily make mutt behave more like an email is an account program by using hooks and other configuration features, and if that isn't enough, you can even patch mutt to add the functionality in a form you find personally palatable. What the trash patch does can be replicated by modifying your configuration, so there is no strong movement among the development group to add it to the tree, because that is essentially bloat (why add a second way of doing the same thing?). ~Kyle - -- Formal symbolic representation of qualitative entities is doomed to its rightful place of minor significance in a world where flowers and beautiful women abound. -- Albert Einstein -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iD8DBQFHi5vXBkIOoMqOI14RAvcmAJ9Ort3atVM8aqlDUb12k3a+3X+SOwCfadlU OXPJFyeC9qQ8XEYgBNinmRA= =6PNi -END PGP SIGNATURE-
set up trash for deleted messages
Hi, I saw some discussions on how to set up a trash for deleted messages, but could not find details. Could anyone show me: (a) a setup command to move all deleted messages to a trash file? (b) A key bind to delete messages in trash permanently? Thank you. Jim
Re: Move deleted messages to trash
--DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: % I haven't tested it with these macros, but when I save a message to the % same folder it's in, it deletes the original message and appends the % message to the mailbox (so it immediately appears in the index). Nothi= ng % goofy about it. =20 How do you delete a message from the trash folder if you have those macros bound without resorting to something wonky like saving to /dev/null? You're supposed to make a wonky folder-hook that deletes messages while in the trash, but saves them to the trash folder from other folders. ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I'm always amazed to hear of air crash victims so badly mutilated that they have to be identified by their dental records. What I can't understand is, if they don't know who you are, how do they know who your dentist is? -- Paul Merton --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8WlohPTh2iSBKeccRAhrPAJ9E87FPX+6Gc/BrMsVe/OBUgy6zywCcDckM ynQjyr+mt09P1TPEBzeRNII= =nF+h -END PGP SIGNATURE- --DocE+STaALJfprDB--
Re: Move deleted messages to trash
Rob -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % Alas! David T-G spake thus: % % I haven't tested it with these macros, but when I save a message to the % % same folder it's in, it deletes the original message and appends the % % message to the mailbox (so it immediately appears in the index). Nothing % % goofy about it. % % How do you delete a message from the trash folder if you have those macros % bound without resorting to something wonky like saving to /dev/null? % % You're supposed to make a wonky folder-hook that deletes messages while % in the trash, but saves them to the trash folder from other folders. ;) No, no, I know that; I was explaining why things got goofy. It would be much cleaner to use Cedric's trash_folder patch anyway :-) % % -- % Rob 'Feztaa' Park % [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg24071/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Move deleted messages to trash
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-01 20:15 -0700]: Alas! Andreas Reinhold spake thus: On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:59:59PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote: macro pager d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder Thanks, this really works fine! Unless you happen to try to delete a message in the trash folder, then things get really goofy :) I haven't tested it with these macros, but when I save a message to the same folder it's in, it deletes the original message and appends the message to the mailbox (so it immediately appears in the index). Nothing goofy about it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] / DNRC / UMBC-LUG: http://linux.umbc.edu PGP: ID: D8C75CF5 print: 0A7D B3AD 2D10 1099 7649 AB64 04C2 05A6 --- -- Any system of 'justice' in which ignorance of the law is no exception, but in which there are too many laws for any one person to know and remember, _is by definition unjust_. -- McCandlish's Law of Unjust Bureaucracy, Stanton McCandlish, EFF online activist; 1993. --- --
Re: Move deleted messages to trash
Phil -- ...and then Phil Gregory said... % % * Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-01 20:15 -0700]: % Alas! Andreas Reinhold spake thus: % On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:59:59PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote: %macro pager d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder ... % Unless you happen to try to delete a message in the trash folder, then % things get really goofy :) % % I haven't tested it with these macros, but when I save a message to the % same folder it's in, it deletes the original message and appends the % message to the mailbox (so it immediately appears in the index). Nothing % goofy about it. How do you delete a message from the trash folder if you have those macros bound without resorting to something wonky like saving to /dev/null? % % -- % [EMAIL PROTECTED] / DNRC / UMBC-LUG: http://linux.umbc.edu :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg24052/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Move deleted messages to trash
Hello James, On Tuesday, January 15, 2002 at 12:52:43 PM -0700, James Hamilton wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:59:59PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote: macro pager d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder The method listed below makes me answer yes to each message I delete Simply add a second enter at the end of each one of Justin's macro definition, like this: macro pager d save-message=trashenterenter move message to trash folder Bye!Alain.
Re: Move deleted messages to trash
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 05:11:32PM -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote: | On Jan 15, Andreas Herceg [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: | On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 02:57:07PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote: | | Use what I recommended, in addition to a modified $delete value (consult | | the manual). The delete confirmation dialog is optional :-) | | I don't think the $delete value will help. The delete confirmation comes | to action, only when deleting from the trash. | | I think whot James meant, was the confirmation to append the messages to | the trash-folder. At least that's my problem. | | Then check $confirmappend. Sure, I already had that Idea. What I tried was: folder-hook trash set confirmappend=no What I achieved this way is that appending a message *from* the trash has not to be confirmed. Appending a message *to* trash has still to be confirmed. -- Andreas Herceg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Move deleted messages to trash
Andreas, et al -- ...and then Andreas Herceg said... % % On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 05:11:32PM -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote: % | On Jan 15, Andreas Herceg [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: % | On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 02:57:07PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote: % | | Use what I recommended, in addition to a modified $delete value (consult % | | the manual). The delete confirmation dialog is optional :-) % | % | I don't think the $delete value will help. The delete confirmation comes % | to action, only when deleting from the trash. % | % | I think whot James meant, was the confirmation to append the messages to % | the trash-folder. At least that's my problem. % | % | Then check $confirmappend. % % Sure, I already had that Idea. What I tried was: % % folder-hook trash set confirmappend=no % % What I achieved this way is that appending a message *from* the trash % has not to be confirmed. Appending a message *to* trash has still to be % confirmed. You've seen why that won't work. Using a folder-hook on your current folder, or changing the macro to turn it off and then on, would do the trick. % % % -- % Andreas Herceg % [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg23176/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Move deleted messages to trash
James -- ...and then James Hamilton said... % % I usually delete a whole slue of messages at a time. For example I had ~150 messages to scan through in my inbox this morning. Most of them spam system email etc. Can someone suggest a way to mark them for deletion then when i sync-mailbox have the messages marked for deletion move to the trash folder? The method listed below makes me answer yes to each message I delete which is much more work than just keeping a backup of everything I recieve and going to it when I am missing mail.. If you want to have a trash folder, I highly recommend Cedric Duval's trash_folder patch. Meanwhile, checking your $confirmappend and $delete settings to set them to no (perhaps in your macro) will get rid of the prompting. HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg23178/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Move deleted messages to trash
I usually delete a whole slue of messages at a time. For example I had ~150 messages to scan through in my inbox this morning. Most of them spam system email etc. Can someone suggest a way to mark them for deletion then when i sync-mailbox have the messages marked for deletion move to the trash folder? The method listed below makes me answer yes to each message I delete which is much more work than just keeping a backup of everything I recieve and going to it when I am missing mail.. On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:59:59PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote: Thus spake Andreas Reinhold ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): i'm wondering how to tell my mutt to not completely delete messages marked with a D, but move them to my trash-folder instead. My sent messages are recorded in a sent-folder. I think storing deleted messages must be arranged in a similar way. But how? :) macro pager d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder macro index d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder macro pager \cD \et;save-message=trashenter move thread to trash folder macro index \cD \et;save-message=trashenter move thread to trash folder In addition, I have this to periodically clean the trash out. Just change in, poke around, and change out. folder-hook trash push 'D~r3d\n\cu.\n' -- Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] View my website at http://codesorcery.net Please encrypt email using key 0xC9C40C31 -- James Hamilton Southwest Cyberport 505-232-7992
Re: Move deleted messages to trash
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thus spake James Hamilton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Can someone suggest a way to mark them for deletion then when i sync-mailbox have the messages marked for deletion move to the trash folder? The method listed below makes me answer yes to each message I delete which is much more work than just keeping a backup of everything I recieve and going to it when I am missing mail.. Use what I recommended, in addition to a modified $delete value (consult the manual). The delete confirmation dialog is optional :-) - -- Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] View my website at http://codesorcery.net Please encrypt email using key 0xC9C40C31 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8RImS94d6K8nEDDERAjK/AJoDJ1bFbsr2D11986WS9k9ChBYhOwCfawjG CwvYIHYe6tjk6VD0u376g/Y= =TZ6b -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Move deleted messages to trash
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 02:57:07PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote: | Thus spake James Hamilton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): | Can someone suggest a way to mark them for deletion then when i | sync-mailbox have the messages marked for deletion move to the trash | folder? The method listed below makes me answer yes to each message I | delete which is much more work than just keeping a backup of | everything I recieve and going to it when I am missing mail.. | | Use what I recommended, in addition to a modified $delete value (consult | the manual). The delete confirmation dialog is optional :-) I don't think the $delete value will help. The delete confirmation comes to action, only when deleting from the trash. I think whot James meant, was the confirmation to append the messages to the trash-folder. At least that's my problem. -- Andreas Herceg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Move deleted messages to trash
On Jan 15, Andreas Herceg [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 02:57:07PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote: | Thus spake James Hamilton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): | Can someone suggest a way to mark them for deletion then when i | sync-mailbox have the messages marked for deletion move to the trash | folder? The method listed below makes me answer yes to each message I | delete which is much more work than just keeping a backup of | everything I recieve and going to it when I am missing mail.. | | Use what I recommended, in addition to a modified $delete value (consult | the manual). The delete confirmation dialog is optional :-) I don't think the $delete value will help. The delete confirmation comes to action, only when deleting from the trash. I think whot James meant, was the confirmation to append the messages to the trash-folder. At least that's my problem. Then check $confirmappend. msg23144/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Move deleted messages to trash
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-01-10 20:15]: Alas! Andreas Reinhold spake thus: On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:59:59PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote: macro pager d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder macro index d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder macro pager \cD \et;save-message=trashenter move thread to trash folder macro index \cD \et;save-message=trashenter move thread to trash folder Thanks, this really works fine! Unless you happen to try to delete a message in the trash folder, then things get really goofy :) I would like to add this for safe :) folder-hook trash 'bind index d delete-message' folder-hook trash 'bind pager d delete-message' -- Eunjea [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kldp.org/~eunjea/ GnuPG fingerprint: 08C9 2D3F 91B2 D395 2EFF 4C33 544C 321C E194 91CF msg22911/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Move deleted messages to trash
Hi, i'm wondering how to tell my mutt to not completely delete messages marked with a D, but move them to my trash-folder instead. My sent messages are recorded in a sent-folder. I think storing deleted messages must be arranged in a similar way. But how? :) cheers, Andi -- Killing in the name of... Andreas Reinhold [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nose-down.de
Re: Move deleted messages to trash
Thus spake Andreas Reinhold ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): i'm wondering how to tell my mutt to not completely delete messages marked with a D, but move them to my trash-folder instead. My sent messages are recorded in a sent-folder. I think storing deleted messages must be arranged in a similar way. But how? :) macro pager d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder macro index d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder macro pager \cD \et;save-message=trashenter move thread to trash folder macro index \cD \et;save-message=trashenter move thread to trash folder In addition, I have this to periodically clean the trash out. Just change in, poke around, and change out. folder-hook trash push 'D~r3d\n\cu.\n' -- Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] View my website at http://codesorcery.net Please encrypt email using key 0xC9C40C31 msg22875/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Move deleted messages to trash
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:59:59PM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote: macro pager d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder macro index d save-message=trashenter move message to trash folder macro pager \cD \et;save-message=trashenter move thread to trash folder macro index \cD \et;save-message=trashenter move thread to trash folder Thanks, this really works fine! cheers Andi -- Killing in the name of... Andreas Reinhold [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nose-down.de
Re: Move deleted messages to trash
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * On 11-01-02 at 08:17 * Andreas Reinhold said Hi, i'm wondering how to tell my mutt to not completely delete messages marked with a D, but move them to my trash-folder instead. My sent messages are recorded in a sent-folder. I think storing deleted messages must be arranged in a similar way. But how? :) There's a very good patch for this, which you can get at mutt.justpickone.org (among other places I imagine) It's called patch-1.3.25.cd.trash_folder.1 You must also 'set trash=~Mail/Trash (or whatever. - -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8PpcxHpvrrTa6L5oRAlllAKCm7jfYkDWgyNseioPL00RrmmS+8ACff6Zv qJvYhNMT7Aej2HOEgne3cF0= =hwhN -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Deleted Messages
I want messages to disappear after I mark them deleted or saved. Is there a way to do this in Mutt? Thanks, Todd = Todd Kokoszka 25, rue Richard Lenoir 75011 Paris Tel. 01.43.72.77.08 __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
Re: Deleted Messages
Todd Kokoszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08 Jan 2002 08:32 -0800]: I want messages to disappear after I mark them deleted or saved. Is there a way to do this in Mutt? You could make a macro like this: macro pager d delete-messagesync-mailbox HTH (untested) cheers j -- http://www.epic.org - Electronic Privacy Information Center msg22613/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Deleted Messages
Todd -- ...and then Todd Kokoszka said... % % I want messages to disappear after I mark them deleted % or saved. Is there a way to do this in Mutt? Just synchronize your mailbox. With the default bindings, hit '$' and anything with a 'D' by it will disappear. % % Thanks, HTH HAND % Todd :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg22616/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Deleted Messages
On 2002.01.08, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Todd Kokoszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want messages to disappear after I mark them deleted or saved. Is there a way to do this in Mutt? When the view limit is set to !~D, deleted message are present, but not visible in the index view. Unforunately, the limit is only applied when you set a limit, not continuously, so you need to re-apply the limit with each deletion. macro index d delete-messagelimit!~Denter You'll still need to sync-mailbox ($) to remove them from the folder, but using limit is much faster than synchronizing after each delete. I like my deleted messages to fade away, too, but using a limit is a little more trouble than I want (I can't really use other limits this way) and I sometimes want to find messages marked for deletion again before I sync. So I just use colors, instead. color index brightblack default ~D My terminal background color and my brightblack are similar colors, so deleted messages take extra effort to find -- they effectively vanish from casual view, while remaining present if I really want to find them. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
A folder fol deleted messages
While mutt's running I'd like all the deleted messages to be automatically move from the various folders to a specific folder to be kept for a strecth of time and be definetely deleted at my will and/or exiting from mutt. Is that possible with mutt and HOW? Ciao Vittorio
Re: A folder fol deleted messages
Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something to this effect on 07/06/2001: While mutt's running I'd like all the deleted messages to be automatically move from the various folders to a specific folder to be kept for a strecth of time and be definetely deleted at my will and/or exiting from mutt. Is that possible with mutt and HOW? Tag deleted messages, then move them to a folder called, e.g., Trash. Something like: macro index Y T~Denter;s=Trashenter Is that what you want? (darren) -- Whatever is done for love is beyond good and evil. -- Friedrich Neitzsche
Re: A folder fol deleted messages
darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something to this effect on 07/06/2001: Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something to this effect on 07/06/2001: While mutt's running I'd like all the deleted messages to be automatically move from the various folders to a specific folder to be kept for a strecth of time and be definetely deleted at my will and/or exiting from mutt. Is that possible with mutt and HOW? Tag deleted messages, then move them to a folder called, e.g., Trash. Something like: macro index Y T~Denter;s=Trashenter Is that what you want? You know what I love? Responding to my own posts! Add a sync-mailbox to the end of that macro, to complete the process: macro index Y T~Denter;s=Trashentersync-mailbox (darren) -- Elegance and truth are inversely related. -- Becker's Razor
Re: A folder fol deleted messages
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 10:39:56AM -0400, Justin R. Miller wrote: Here are a couple of macros that I use for a trash can: The list archive is filled with 101 variations on this theme. I haven't found a patch anywhere which implements a pukka trash folder. All the macro solutions have various problems and inconsistencies, and they're all different (of course), so it would be nice to see a simple set trash=/mail/trash in muttrc, with unset trash to turn it off. I'm not yet at the point where I can do something like this, though having put my head into all the nooks and corners of the mutt source has given me a healthy respect for those that can... J -- I was an only child... eventually. - Steven Wright _ I prefer encrypted mail (see headers for PGP key) Why encrypt? http://www.heureka.clara.net/sunrise/pgpwhy.htm _ PGP signature
Re: A folder fol deleted messages
Yes, it is! Thanks Darren Vittorio darren chamberlain [mutt-users] 06/07/01 07:27 -0400: Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something to this effect on 07/06/2001: While mutt's running I'd like all the deleted messages to be automatically move from the various folders to a specific folder to be kept for a strecth of time and be definetely deleted at my will and/or exiting from mutt. Is that possible with mutt and HOW? Tag deleted messages, then move them to a folder called, e.g., Trash. Something like: macro index Y T~Denter;s=Trashenter Is that what you want? (darren) -- Whatever is done for love is beyond good and evil. -- Friedrich Neitzsche
Re: A folder fol deleted messages
Thusly Thwacked By John Arundel: set trash=/mail/trash in muttrc, with unset trash to turn it off. While you're at it, add: set trash_clean=30 # number of days to hold an email before permanently deleting it unset trash_clean * also, a default value on the trash_clean of 30 days, maybe. I would assume that invoking the deletions would be upon starting Mutt, as opposed to a daemon-mode process. I suppose this would be desireable for some. Alternatives would be a macro or a script. my 2 cents, jc
Saving Deleted Messages
Hi All Is there anyway that I can save mail that I have delete in the future.I already copymy +mail that I send to people !! Regards
Re: Saving Deleted Messages
On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 02:09:14PM +, Nollaig MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2000.10.06 12:52:15, you, the extraordinary Pyuesh Daya, opined: Is there anyway that I can save mail that I have delete in the future.I already copymy +mail that I send to people !! You could change the binding for "d" thus: macro index d s+wastebasket\n macro pager d s+wastebasket\n Then typing "d" would put a message into the folder "wastebasket" rather than deleting it. Would that fit your wish? I do something similar to have mutt mimic Netscape Messenger. From my muttrc: # (Safely) delete messages folder-hook . 'macro index d "delete-message"' folder-hook "!$" 'macro index d "save-message!.Trashenter"' folder-hook "!.wave4" 'macro index d "save-message!.Trashenter"' folder-hook . 'macro pager d "delete-message"' folder-hook "!$" 'macro pager d "save-message!.Trashenter"' folder-hook "!.wave4" 'macro pager d "save-message!.Trashenter"' folder-hook . 'macro pager D "delete-message"' This changes 'd' to save message in two specific folders (work-related e-mail). In other folders, 'd' means delete. In the pager, 'D' is defined as delete universally. -- Bob Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "In general, if you think something isn't in Perl, try it out, because it usually is. :-)" -- Larry Wall, creator of the Perl programming language
Re: Saving Deleted Messages
Just make a macro for delete to go to say... =trash On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 12:52:15PM -0700, Pyuesh Daya muttered: | Hi All | | Is there anyway that I can save mail that I have delete in the future.I already |copymy | +mail that I send to people !! | | Regards | -- /Jason G Helfman "At any given moment, you may find the ticket to the circus that has always been in your possession." Fingerprint: 6A32 3774 E390 33B5 8C96 2AA1 2BF4 BD71 35A1 C149 GnuPG http://www.gnupg.org Get Private! 1024D/35A1C149
Re: selecting deleted messages
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 12:15:37AM -0800, Eugene Lee wrote: (SNIP) message as deleted, and moves my current select to message #38. As far as I know, there is no mechanism within Mutt to remember your previous selection; thus there's no way to automagically jump from message #38 back to message #36. That was one of my questions... It would be a good implementation, wouldn't it? :-) -- Godoy. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Setor de Publicações Publishing Department Conectiva S.A.
Re: selecting deleted messages
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 08:35:56PM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 08:16:18PM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 02:33:06AM +, J McKitrick wrote: On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 04:50:40PM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: Sorry about that. I didn't see the new messages in the other thread until after I sent that. I've got to learn to read ALL the new messages in the list before responding. That's OK gary, i need to read the whole thread before responding to the messages that didn't answer the question when the answer is just a little further down. :-) jm -- - Jonathon McKitrick / [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ "I prefer the term Artificial Person myself."/ -
[jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org: selecting deleted messages]
I know mutt has an option (resolve) to not move to the next message after performing an action. If i delete a message, is there any way to get back to that message besides entering the message number? The index skips deleted messages when navigating, of course. jm -- - Jonathon McKitrick / [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ "I prefer the term Artificial Person myself."/ -
Re: [jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org: selecting deleted messages]
J McKitrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 13 Mar 2000: If i delete a message, is there any way to get back to that message besides entering the message number? The index skips deleted messages when navigating, of course. With the previous-entry or next-entry functions perhaps? They're bound respectively to to K and J, by default. No actual shortcut that I know of to get to the *exact* previous message that you were in, regardless of which current new message ended up with after a delete or save action with $resolve set. Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / I don't want the whole world, I just want your half.
Re: [jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org: selecting deleted messages]
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 06:14:59PM +, J McKitrick wrote: I know mutt has an option (resolve) to not move to the next message after performing an action. If i delete a message, is there any way to get back to that message besides entering the message number? The index skips deleted messages when navigating, of course. You can also go to the message just above the deleted one, and press 'u'. Will not work when there is no undeleted mail above or when there are too many other deleted mails above, though. Another way is undelete-pattern (forgot the key binding for that) Peter -- Dr Peter Poeml | Institute of epidemiology and social medicine | Domagkstr. 3 | 48149 Muenster, Germany | Tel +49-251-8356296
Re: [jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org: selecting deleted messages]
Peter Poeml [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can also go to the message just above the deleted one, and press 'u'. Will not work when there is no undeleted mail above or when there are too many other deleted mails above, though. This is really just a side-effect of the undelete operation, and it won't work with $resolve is not set. It is simpler to just use the default keys that are bound to previous-message and next-message (as opposed to previous-undeleted and next-undeleted, which the arrow keys are bound to). The default bindinds for these functions are "J" and "K", which are the shifted letters. VI users will find these bindings convenient. Others will likely not find them comprehensible. :) -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson UX WTEC Engineer |PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Re: selecting deleted messages
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 06:09:55PM +, J McKitrick wrote: I know mutt has an option (resolve) to not move to the next message after performing an action. If i delete a message, is there any way to get back to that message besides entering the message number? The index skips deleted messages when navigating, of course. Navigate using upper-case letters 'J' and 'K'. -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | RF Communications Product Generation Unit | Spokane, Washington, USA
Re: [jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org: selecting deleted messages]
Correction: my mistake. I forgot shifted-J and K are different. Thanks. jm -- - Jonathon McKitrick / [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ "I prefer the term Artificial Person myself."/ -
Re: selecting deleted messages
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 02:33:06AM +, J McKitrick wrote: On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 04:50:40PM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: Navigate using upper-case letters 'J' and 'K'. Navigating isn't the problem, it's when i want to go to a message i just deleted. Is there any way besides typing the message number? It seems J and K only go to non-deleted messages. That's odd. I'm using "Mutt 1.0pre4us" and it has the following key bindings (from the Index help): J next-entry move to the next entry K previous-entry move to the previous entry j next-undeleted move to the next undeleted message k previous-undeleted move to the last undelete message So while 'j' and 'k' go to only undeleted messages, 'J' and 'K' allow me to go to the deleted messages as well. Maybe your 'J' and 'K' keys got bound somehow to "next-undeleted" and "previous-undeleted". Typing '?' will display the current bindings. If you want to set the 'J' and 'K' bindings to their "normal" values, put the following in your ~/.muttrc: bind index J next-entry bind index K previous-entry -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | RF Communications Product Generation Unit | Spokane, Washington, USA
Re: selecting deleted messages
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 08:16:18PM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 02:33:06AM +, J McKitrick wrote: On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 04:50:40PM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: Sorry about that. I didn't see the new messages in the other thread until after I sent that. I've got to learn to read ALL the new messages in the list before responding. -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | RF Communications Product Generation Unit | Spokane, Washington, USA
Re: deleted messages and arrows and key sequences
Mikko -- ...and then Mikko Hänninen said... % Richard Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sat, 11 Dec 1999: % - In the index of a folder, I'd like the arrow key to scroll over deleted % % The other answers you've gotten have been good, but I'd just like to % point out that even with the default bindings (?) you can scroll up/down Yep. % in the index including the deleted messages if you use J/K for movement. % No need to type in the msg number, though that works too. That's what I like, since I'm a vi guy. % % It's probably more sensible to rebind the arrow keys though... Just % pointing out an alternative approach that I personally use. I was trying to figure out a way to get the arrow keys to behave like that, but I couldn't find the symbol for a shifted arrow :-) I'm sure the key code/sequence exists, so ... Is there a way to tell mutt to bind a particular key code instead of j or J or \cv or \eV or such? :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! "Why2k? Well, I didn't think at the time that I could charge any more!" Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: index question about deleted messages
Ken W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I normally use up and down instead of j and k, I wanted to make with shift-up or control-up to do J and K. Most keyboards do not generate different codes for the shifted arrow keys. The usually generate the same codes whether you're pressing shift or control or not. -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson Convex Division |PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
index question about deleted messages
I have mutt set like elm, I think the default, to skip messages marked for deletion in the index when going up or down, so I have to skip to the particular message number to go to one marked for deletion. Sorry if this is already a feature, but I think it would be great to be able to toggle this variable, 'resolve' I think, with something like 'shift-up' so if resolve it set, the cursor will move up one message, whether marked for deletion or not, and vice versa if resolve is unset. Possible? Thanks. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest
Re: index question about deleted messages
On Mon, Feb 15, 1999, Vikas Agnihotri wrote: We already have next/previous-undeleted(j/k) and next/previous-entry(J/K). Nuff, me thinks. That's what I was looking for. Thanks. Problem, though. Since I normally use up and down instead of j and k, I wanted to make with shift-up or control-up to do J and K. When I try to bind something like "\Cup" for previous-message, upon restarting, mutt tells me: previous-message: no such function in map I have tried this in index and pager with the same error. Is there something that I am overlooking here? Thanks. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest
