Re: Folder specific TO-Address
On 2001-05-13 19:59:00 -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote: >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, May 11, 2001 at >08:25:07PM +0200S You could of course delete In-Reply-To, which would at the same time take care of References. -- Thomas Roesslerhttp://log.does-not-exist.org/
Re: Folder specific TO-Address
Using a large mallet, Mr. Wade whacked out: > I agree,... but what about messages which are NOT replies? I > think that's what the original question was about. If he invokes > the function, (bound to "m" by default), he must then > specify a "To:" header address. I think that's what he was > trying to automate. owch. -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + Lumber Cartel India - mallet @ cluestick.org + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin
Re: Folder specific TO-Address
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Using a large mallet, Mr. Wade whacked out: > > > I do this as well. I think that perhaps I misunderstood the > > original question. I was under the impression that the asker > > wanted to know how to have a default "To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > header specified when he loaded his mailing list mailbox folder, > > so that he wouldn't have to enter that as input. You seem to be > > discussing sorting incoming mail rather than mail composition. > > Well, I sort incoming mail, and then use folder hooks to set my from address. > Mutt's L (list reply to) along with "subscribe foo" in muttrc handles things > quite OK. I agree,... but what about messages which are NOT replies? I think that's what the original question was about. If he invokes the function, (bound to "m" by default), he must then specify a "To:" header address. I think that's what he was trying to automate. -- Linux: The Choice of the GNU Generation
Re: Folder specific TO-Address
Using a large mallet, Mr. Wade whacked out: > I do this as well. I think that perhaps I misunderstood the > original question. I was under the impression that the asker > wanted to know how to have a default "To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > header specified when he loaded his mailing list mailbox folder, > so that he wouldn't have to enter that as input. You seem to be > discussing sorting incoming mail rather than mail composition. Well, I sort incoming mail, and then use folder hooks to set my from address. Mutt's L (list reply to) along with "subscribe foo" in muttrc handles things quite OK. -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + Lumber Cartel India - mallet @ cluestick.org + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin
Re: Folder specific TO-Address
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Using a large mallet, Mr. Wade whacked out: > > > This was an attempt to have Mutt use a default "To:" address for > > a mailbox folder, as I understand it. > > Yes. And I use procmail with other headers (say Sender: - usually distinctive > to the list) to filter each list into a separate mbox I do this as well. I think that perhaps I misunderstood the original question. I was under the impression that the asker wanted to know how to have a default "To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" header specified when he loaded his mailing list mailbox folder, so that he wouldn't have to enter that as input. You seem to be discussing sorting incoming mail rather than mail composition. -- Linux: The Choice of the GNU Generation
Re: Folder specific TO-Address
Hi, I know you quoted manual... But context made me worry. I am not sure we are talking same thing but try explaining what I meant: On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 08:13:28PM +0200, Wilhelm Wienemann wrote: > > On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 08:25:07PM +0200, Wilhelm Wienemann wrote: > > > > I am searching for a way defining a default TO: address depending > > > > on ... > > > list-reply (default: L) > > > > > Reply to the current or tagged message(s) by extracting any > > > addresses which match the addresses given by the ``lists or > > > subscribe'' commands, but also honor any Mail-Followup-To > > > header(s) if the ``$honor_followup_to'' configuration variable is > > > set. Using this when replying to messages posted to mailing lists > > > helps avoid duplicate copies being sent to the author of the > > > message you are replying to. > > > > Is this true solution? > > Sorry, but I didn't say it's the 'one-and-only' solution. > For me it's one of more possible ways to do it which will work > here on my box without any problems. :-) When "L" is pressed in place of "m", it creates To: correctly as described above but also sets additional one: In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, May 11, 2001 at 08:25:07PM +0200S So it becomes part of other thread if used in place of "m" command. ;-) "m" will not set above tag. Original posting was about how-to-set To:... for "m", I think... Regards, -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG-key: 1024D/D5DE453D + + My debian quick-reference, http://www.aokiconsulting.com/quick/+
Re: Folder specific TO-Address
Using a large mallet, Mr. Wade whacked out: > This was an attempt to have Mutt use a default "To:" address for > a mailbox folder, as I understand it. Yes. And I use procmail with other headers (say Sender: - usually distinctive to the list) to filter each list into a separate mbox -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + Lumber Cartel India - mallet @ cluestick.org + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin
Re: Folder specific TO-Address
Hello Osamu! On Sat, 12 May 2001, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 08:25:07PM +0200, Wilhelm Wienemann wrote: > > > I am searching for a way defining a default TO: address depending > > > on > > list-reply (default: L) > > > Reply to the current or tagged message(s) by extracting any > > addresses which match the addresses given by the ``lists or > > subscribe'' commands, but also honor any Mail-Followup-To > > header(s) if the ``$honor_followup_to'' configuration variable is > > set. Using this when replying to messages posted to mailing lists > > helps avoid duplicate copies being sent to the author of the > > message you are replying to. > > Is this true solution? Sorry, but I didn't say it's the 'one-and-only' solution. For me it's one of more possible ways to do it which will work here on my box without any problems. :-) Kai Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was asking on Fri, 11 May 2001 17:12:34 +0200: ---> cut here < - [...] Let's say I am in the mutt's Mailinglist folder. If I press "m" I want a default address [EMAIL PROTECTED] there. [...] ---> cut here < - If you edit the 'subscribe'-variable in your $HOME/.muttrc then you can get one (possible) solution with the answer which I've quoted above and which is part of the official mutt-manual. > I do concur the use of "lists or subscribe" is a good thing if used > appropriately. But blanket statement makes me worry. This makes new > message linked to previous message which we sometines do not want when > one wish to initiate a thread. IMHO it's a question of the right managing of the tools, especially the configure-tools of mutt. > This is valid only for continuing discussion. (I see so many careless > posting attached to unrelated thread.) IMHO that's not a question of the managing of the 'L' feature. > L : continue discussion on list (Good thing with "lists" ...and 'subscribe' [!]) > m : start thread. > g : reply to all Also a possible way but mostly the PM of CC or BCC are enclosed. bye - Wilhelm -- ._. Wilhelm Wienemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / _,\ | (_./ Debian GNU/Linux Version 2.2 Potato \, To learn more visit => http://www.debian.org/
Re: Folder specific TO-Address
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Using a large mallet, Mr. Wade whacked out: > > > > folder-hook .'unmy_hdr To:' > > > folder-hook =IN-L-mutt-users 'my_hdr To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > > A problem with this, though, is that list-replies tend to have > > > the list address twice in the To: field. I haven't spent any > > > time determining a method to correct that. > > Heh, no. Doesnt need to be that way. Trust to mail-followup-to / reply-to > set by the list (that takes care of the to) and just set your from header. > > See my muttrc at http://www.hserus.net/muttrc.html for a "list oriented" > muttrc Well, for one thing, not all lists (this one, for example) modify the "Reply-To:" header. Also, not all users' MUAs accommodate "Mail-Followup-To:" headers, but most importantly: not all messages a user sends is a reply to a previous message. Too many users contaminate threads by replying to messages with something that is totally unrelated or break them by not replying where appropriate, beginning new threads. Some are simply too lazy to address an email for themselves, so they just reply, possibly neither understanding nor caring how annoying it is. :) This was an attempt to have Mutt use a default "To:" address for a mailbox folder, as I understand it. -- Mr. Wade -- Linux: The Choice of the GNU Generation
Re: Folder specific TO-Address
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 08:25:07PM +0200, Wilhelm Wienemann wrote:
> > I am searching for a way defining a default TO: address depending on
> list-reply (default: L)
> Reply to the current or tagged message(s) by extracting any addresses
> which match the addresses given by the ``lists or subscribe''
> commands, but also honor any Mail-Followup-To header(s) if the
> ``$honor_followup_to'' configuration variable is set. Using this when
> replying to messages posted to mailing lists helps avoid duplicate
> copies being sent to the author of the message you are replying to.
Is this true solution? I do concur the use of "lists or subscribe" is
a good thing if used appropriately. But blanket statement makes me
worry. This makes new message linked to previous message which we
sometines do not want when one wish to initiate a thread. This is valid
only for continuing discussion. (I see so many careless posting attached
to unrelated thread.)
L : continue discussion on list (Good thing with "lists")
m : start thread.
g : reply to all
So also redefining "m" with each folder is a good idea which someone
else already posed if "m" to work as original poster intended. (I
should try...)
One reminder, when you do not want reply to be addressed to you but
should go to ML, set "subscribe". Then also change .muttrc
#index format (Collasped)
set index_format="%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15F %?M?(#%03M)&(%4l)? %s"
to get address displayed sanely. This one took me a while before I
figured out
Osamu
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Re: Folder specific TO-Address
Using a large mallet, Mr. Wade whacked out: > > folder-hook .'unmy_hdr To:' > > folder-hook =IN-L-mutt-users 'my_hdr To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > A problem with this, though, is that list-replies tend to have > > the list address twice in the To: field. I haven't spent any > > time determining a method to correct that. Heh, no. Doesnt need to be that way. Trust to mail-followup-to / reply-to set by the list (that takes care of the to) and just set your from header. See my muttrc at http://www.hserus.net/muttrc.html for a "list oriented" muttrc -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + Lumber Cartel India - mallet @ cluestick.org + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin
Re: Folder specific TO-Address
Hello Kai! On Fri, 11 May 2001, Kai Weber wrote: > I am searching for a way defining a default TO: address depending on > the actual folder. Let's say I am in the mutt's Mailinglist folder. If > I press "m" I want a default address [EMAIL PROTECTED] there. > > I think it is an folder-hook thing, but I have no idea how to implement > this. Any suggestions & tips? Look at the Mutt-Manual at point 2.3.4. Miscellaneous Functions list-reply (default: L) Reply to the current or tagged message(s) by extracting any addresses which match the addresses given by the ``lists or subscribe'' commands, but also honor any Mail-Followup-To header(s) if the ``$honor_followup_to'' configuration variable is set. Using this when replying to messages posted to mailing lists helps avoid duplicate copies being sent to the author of the message you are replying to. bye - Wilhelm -- ._. Wilhelm Wienemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / _,\ | (_./ Debian GNU/Linux Version 2.2 Potato \, To learn more visit => http://www.debian.org/
Re: Folder specific TO-Address
Kai Weber wrote: > I am searching for a way defining a default TO: address depending on the > actual folder. Let's say I am in the mutt's Mailinglist folder. If I > press "m" I want a default address [EMAIL PROTECTED] there. > > I think it is an folder-hook thing, but I have no idea how to implement > this. Any suggestions & tips? Mr. Wade wrote: > This might help or give you a starting place, anyway: > > folder-hook .'unmy_hdr To:' > folder-hook =IN-L-mutt-users 'my_hdr To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Obviously, I use "=IN-L-mutt-users" as the mailing list folder; > you should sdjust that accordingly for your situation. > > A problem with this, though, is that list-replies tend to have > the list address twice in the To: field. I haven't spent any > time determining a method to correct that. Regarding the "problem" I described: testing indicates that Mutt will include duplicated addresses in the command-line arguments used to call $sendmail, but it seems my MTA, Sendmail 8.11.3, filters out those duplicate addresses anyway, sending a message only once to each recipient, regardless of multiple mentions of the same recipient addresses on the command-line, so it's a non-issue for me, (but it's good to know! I had been very careful in the past to delete multiple mentions of the same recipient in the recipient fields. I guess that's unnecessary.) -- Mr. Wade -- Linux: The Choice of the GNU Generation
Re: Folder specific TO-Address
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:12:34PM +0200, Kai Weber wrote: > I am searching for a way defining a default TO: address depending on the > actual folder. Let's say I am in the mutt's Mailinglist folder. If I > press "m" I want a default address [EMAIL PROTECTED] there. > > I think it is an folder-hook thing, but I have no idea how to implement > this. Any suggestions & tips? I use a set of folder-hooks like this, one for each mailing list folder. folder-hook +Incoming/mutt-users\ 'macro index M ":push m^[EMAIL PROTECTED]^M^M" "mail to list"' Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | RF Communications PGU http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ | Spokane, Washington, USA
Re: Folder specific TO-Address
Kai Weber wrote: > I am searching for a way defining a default TO: address depending on the > actual folder. Let's say I am in the mutt's Mailinglist folder. If I > press "m" I want a default address [EMAIL PROTECTED] there. > > I think it is an folder-hook thing, but I have no idea how to implement > this. Any suggestions & tips? This might help or give you a starting place, anyway: folder-hook .'unmy_hdr To:' folder-hook =IN-L-mutt-users 'my_hdr To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Obviously, I use "=IN-L-mutt-users" as the mailing list folder; you should sdjust that accordingly for your situation. A problem with this, though, is that list-replies tend to have the list address twice in the To: field. I haven't spent any time determining a method to correct that. Good luck! -- Mr. Wade -- Linux: The Choice of the GNU Generation
