RE: [OT] A News Group Perhaps.
At 11:45 AM 12/12/2001 -0500, Christopher Schreiber wrote: Actually I setup a vBulletin forum for MySQL over at www.mysqlforums.com and I am the moderator of the MySQL and Server Configuration forums over at www.vbulletin.com/forum/ Would it be too much to suggest that mysql.com host its own news server or is that too pricey? - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: A News Group Perhaps.
Hi, I was wondering if the mysql list had any plans to be put onto a news group. I have only been a memeber a short time but I have found %50 of the information to be usefull. This does however mean that %50 is does not apply to me at this time. Due to this I get a lot of emails that are of no use to me at the moment. I would be keen to talk about hosting this list as a news group to make it browsable so myself and others could pick out infromation that is usefull to me at this time. The email list could stay for mass contributions but I would rather just browse for information I need. Any thoughts on this ? Thanks, Matt. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: [OT] A News Group Perhaps.
Hi Matt, I am sure this has been said before so my apologies if I bore! Most mail clients let you setup rules. For the mySQL list I automatically redirect all messages into a separate folder based on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address. This creates a fabulous resource that can be searched (title and text) and can be read or ignored by choice. I am not a great fan of Newsgroups - they get spammed too much and messages get lost or archived. Some ISPs carry them, some don't. All too hit and miss for a resource on which I rely and am very grateful for. Tony - Original Message - From: Matthew Darcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:58 AM Subject: RE: A News Group Perhaps. Hi, I was wondering if the mysql list had any plans to be put onto a news group. I have only been a memeber a short time but I have found %50 of the information to be usefull. This does however mean that %50 is does not apply to me at this time. Due to this I get a lot of emails that are of no use to me at the moment. I would be keen to talk about hosting this list as a news group to make it browsable so myself and others could pick out infromation that is usefull to me at this time. The email list could stay for mass contributions but I would rather just browse for information I need. Any thoughts on this ? Thanks, Matt. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: A News Group Perhaps.
Tony Buckley writes: I am not a great fan of Newsgroups - they get spammed too much and messages get lost or archived. Some ISPs carry them, some don't. All too hit and miss for a resource on which I rely and am very grateful for. I agree, but sadly enough the spam part is true for this list as well. I completely agree with whomever proposed to have this list modified to accept mails from subscribed people only, and to require that subscribed email addresses are valid. I'm sure it'd be possible to allow bug reports from people not on the list. As for people who post questions to the list without being subscribed, I think that they should either join and contribute to and/or learn from the discussion, or just buy a support contract instead. Something that would be really great is if someone would gather all relevant things that are being said on this list and make one huge FAQ out of it. Carsten's FAQ is good, but it's not as big as it could've been, had someone paid him to create it. Then again, if MySQL would pay someone to make a really good FAQ, they'd probably lose a lot of support contracts. Not that I believe them to be that greedy/cynical, but anyway. //C -- Carl Troein - Círdan / Istari-PixelMagic - UIN 16353280 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://pixelmagic.dyndns.org/~cirdan/ Amiga user since '89, and damned proud of it too. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: [OT] A News Group Perhaps.
also screen what you don't need. I delete everything regarding installation. I don't have solaris and I don't have red hat so 80% of the install questions I can't help. You can set up pretty complex sorting rules. It might take a couple of weeks to set up, but once it's done you should receive only wanted informations. My 2 cents Etienne Tony Buckley wrote: Hi Matt, I am sure this has been said before so my apologies if I bore! Most mail clients let you setup rules. For the mySQL list I automatically redirect all messages into a separate folder based on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address. This creates a fabulous resource that can be searched (title and text) and can be read or ignored by choice. I am not a great fan of Newsgroups - they get spammed too much and messages get lost or archived. Some ISPs carry them, some don't. All too hit and miss for a resource on which I rely and am very grateful for. Tony - Original Message - From: Matthew Darcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:58 AM Subject: RE: A News Group Perhaps. Hi, I was wondering if the mysql list had any plans to be put onto a news group. I have only been a memeber a short time but I have found %50 of the information to be usefull. This does however mean that %50 is does not apply to me at this time. Due to this I get a lot of emails that are of no use to me at the moment. I would be keen to talk about hosting this list as a news group to make it browsable so myself and others could pick out infromation that is usefull to me at this time. The email list could stay for mass contributions but I would rather just browse for information I need. Any thoughts on this ? Thanks, Matt. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php -- Etienne Marcotte Specifications Management - Quality Control Imperial Tobacco Ltd. - Montreal (Qc) Canada 514.932.6161 x.4001 - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: [OT] A News Group Perhaps.
I would vote in favor of using vbulletin (www.vbulletin.com) it's got forums for talk like this, web-based, and runs off of the MySQL server as a back-end. An example in action is vbulletin itself or community.installshield.com. Very slick indeed. Kelly FYI, I'm somewhat biased in favor of it because I have set up this program and know how well it works. It's a great example of PHP and MySQL working together. Hi Matt, I am sure this has been said before so my apologies if I bore! Most mail clients let you setup rules. For the mySQL list I automatically redirect all messages into a separate folder based on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address. This creates a fabulous resource that can be searched (title and text) and can be read or ignored by choice. I am not a great fan of Newsgroups - they get spammed too much and messages get lost or archived. Some ISPs carry them, some don't. All too hit and miss for a resource on which I rely and am very grateful for. Tony - Original Message - From: Matthew Darcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:58 AM Subject: RE: A News Group Perhaps. Hi, I was wondering if the mysql list had any plans to be put onto a news group. I have only been a memeber a short time but I have found %50 of the information to be usefull. This does however mean that %50 is does not apply to me at this time. Due to this I get a lot of emails that are of no use to me at the moment. I would be keen to talk about hosting this list as a news group to make it browsable so myself and others could pick out infromation that is usefull to me at this time. The email list could stay for mass contributions but I would rather just browse for information I need. Any thoughts on this ? Thanks, Matt. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php -- Kelly Firkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: [OT] A News Group Perhaps.
Well that's called a forum and it's not at all like a mailing list :-) But yes there could be a forum, but there are already some on the net www.devshed.com have a mySQL part and a Perl part and a PHP part. Plus a forum requires servers, space, web hosting, DNS, maintenance, moderation, programming.. the mailing list is al up and running. I don't like vbulletin, well I don't like the fact that you get the header and wait, wait and wait for the body to display, it's getting the messages out of the DB everytime a user loads a page and the little 3-4 seconds it takes to get the info is annoying :) my 2 cents Etienne Kelly Firkins wrote: I would vote in favor of using vbulletin (www.vbulletin.com) it's got forums for talk like this, web-based, and runs off of the MySQL server as a back-end. An example in action is vbulletin itself or community.installshield.com. Very slick indeed. Kelly FYI, I'm somewhat biased in favor of it because I have set up this program and know how well it works. It's a great example of PHP and MySQL working together. Hi Matt, I am sure this has been said before so my apologies if I bore! Most mail clients let you setup rules. For the mySQL list I automatically redirect all messages into a separate folder based on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address. This creates a fabulous resource that can be searched (title and text) and can be read or ignored by choice. I am not a great fan of Newsgroups - they get spammed too much and messages get lost or archived. Some ISPs carry them, some don't. All too hit and miss for a resource on which I rely and am very grateful for. Tony - Original Message - From: Matthew Darcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:58 AM Subject: RE: A News Group Perhaps. Hi, I was wondering if the mysql list had any plans to be put onto a news group. I have only been a memeber a short time but I have found %50 of the information to be usefull. This does however mean that %50 is does not apply to me at this time. Due to this I get a lot of emails that are of no use to me at the moment. I would be keen to talk about hosting this list as a news group to make it browsable so myself and others could pick out infromation that is usefull to me at this time. The email list could stay for mass contributions but I would rather just browse for information I need. Any thoughts on this ? Thanks, Matt. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php -- Kelly Firkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php -- Etienne Marcotte Specifications Management - Quality Control Imperial Tobacco Ltd. - Montreal (Qc) Canada 514.932.6161 x.4001 - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: [OT] A News Group Perhaps.
Actually I setup a vBulletin forum for MySQL over at www.mysqlforums.com and I am the moderator of the MySQL and Server Configuration forums over at www.vbulletin.com/forum/ I've been keeping an archive of the mailing lists, mainly for my own purposes to search through old questions and answers from these lists, but I certainly would like to offer it to others that would find it useful for searching for older threads and for those that prefer a web-based solution over email lists. Chris Schreiber -Original Message- From: Kelly Firkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] A News Group Perhaps. I would vote in favor of using vbulletin (www.vbulletin.com) it's got forums for talk like this, web-based, and runs off of the MySQL server as a back-end. An example in action is vbulletin itself or community.installshield.com. Very slick indeed. Kelly FYI, I'm somewhat biased in favor of it because I have set up this program and know how well it works. It's a great example of PHP and MySQL working together. Hi Matt, I am sure this has been said before so my apologies if I bore! Most mail clients let you setup rules. For the mySQL list I automatically redirect all messages into a separate folder based on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address. This creates a fabulous resource that can be searched (title and text) and can be read or ignored by choice. I am not a great fan of Newsgroups - they get spammed too much and messages get lost or archived. Some ISPs carry them, some don't. All too hit and miss for a resource on which I rely and am very grateful for. Tony - Original Message - From: Matthew Darcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:58 AM Subject: RE: A News Group Perhaps. Hi, I was wondering if the mysql list had any plans to be put onto a news group. I have only been a memeber a short time but I have found %50 of the information to be usefull. This does however mean that %50 is does not apply to me at this time. Due to this I get a lot of emails that are of no use to me at the moment. I would be keen to talk about hosting this list as a news group to make it browsable so myself and others could pick out infromation that is usefull to me at this time. The email list could stay for mass contributions but I would rather just browse for information I need. Any thoughts on this ? Thanks, Matt. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php -- Kelly Firkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Anti-SPAM (was: A News Group Perhaps)
On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 06:49, Carl Troein wrote: Tony Buckley writes: I am not a great fan of Newsgroups - they get spammed too much and messages get lost or archived. Some ISPs carry them, some don't. All too hit and miss for a resource on which I rely and am very grateful for. I agree, but sadly enough the spam part is true for this list as well. I completely agree with whomever proposed to have this list modified to accept mails from subscribed people only An alternative that has just been implemented on the PHP lists is to keep an approved list of addresses in addition to a subscribed list. If mail is sent from either approved or subscribed addresses, then it is sent on to the list. Otherwise, an automated reply is sent to the sending address that requires a reply to allow the post to go through - this eliminates 99%+ of spam I'd bet - at least from examining my Shred folder (I file the, uh, stuff there and feed it to an anti-spam system called Razor once a day). Anyway, if a reply is made to the automated message, then the address is added to the approve pile for future posts. Billy -- database,sql,query,table - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: Anti-SPAM (was: A News Group Perhaps)
Hi, The TurboPower new groups (news://news.turbopower.com) seem to work fine, with little spam. Because they host the news groups themselves, there is no problem with them not being hosted by a particular ISP. It would be really nice to have a new group, but the ground has been covered so many times before, it obviously isn't going to happen. m2cw QB -Original Message- From: Thrill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2001 2:39 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anti-SPAM (was: A News Group Perhaps) On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 06:49, Carl Troein wrote: Tony Buckley writes: I am not a great fan of Newsgroups - they get spammed too much and messages get lost or archived. Some ISPs carry them, some don't. All too hit and miss for a resource on which I rely and am very grateful for. I agree, but sadly enough the spam part is true for this list as well. I completely agree with whomever proposed to have this list modified to accept mails from subscribed people only An alternative that has just been implemented on the PHP lists is to keep an approved list of addresses in addition to a subscribed list. If mail is sent from either approved or subscribed addresses, then it is sent on to the list. Otherwise, an automated reply is sent to the sending address that requires a reply to allow the post to go through - this eliminates 99%+ of spam I'd bet - at least from examining my Shred folder (I file the, uh, stuff there and feed it to an anti-spam system called Razor once a day). Anyway, if a reply is made to the automated message, then the address is added to the approve pile for future posts. Billy -- database,sql,query,table - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php The information contained in this email is privileged and confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are asked to respect that confidentiality and not disclose, copy or make use of its contents. If received in error you are asked to destroy this email and contact the sender immediately. Your assistance is appreciated. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
