[mythtv-users] Re: recording HD content

[Neil]

Hi Joe, 

Joe Votour writes: 

I don't do HD myself (I guess I'm behind the times
with my analog cable), but yes, it can be done. 
However, if you plan on using a system with a
proprietary system (pretty much anything but OTA in
the U.S.), then you'll have to use their set-top box
to receive (and decrypt) the channels, and then record
them on your MythTV machine.  This can be done by
Composite/S-Video, coaxial (if your set-top box
outputs in coaxial) or (possibly) Firewire.
Hmmm. I think, if we send out the HD stream via s-video, quality is already 
degraded. Also, quality of s-video is just ok. Is there a way to preserve it 
just like how we do it in Air2PC? Remember, s-video is analog. HD content is 
digital. 

I would like to know if someone is doing this kind of recording. How is the 
picture quality? But will it really be able record the HD content if the 
receiver has an svideo out? 

You'll also need to have some method for MythTV to
switch channels on the set-top - either a serial cable
(if supported on your set-top box) or an IR Blaster.
Yep, I'm currently using a homebrew IR. 

Also, note that apparently decoding HDTV in MythTV
requires a pretty beefy CPU and video card.  You
should search the archives for suggestions from other
people who are successfully doing this.
No issues with my current machine since I'm already playing HD OTA content. 
Quality is awesome. 

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Re: [mythtv-users] SBLive + ALSA + AC3 question

[Neil Milne]

On Apr 10, 2005 3:36 AM, Jarod Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can go in and out of xine, myth, HD recordings, standard-def recordings,
> files with 2-channel stereo only, reboot, etc., etc., never have to touch a
> thing on the sound config. :-)
> 

I'd second that - I never need to touch anything on my setup. DVD with
DTS or DD through xine, videos with AC3 or mp3 tracks, DVB recordings,
mythmusic...

> > how different are asoundrc files for the Audigy and SBLive! Value 1024?
> 

You can do a diff between mine (on my site mentioned earlier in the
thread) and Jarod's which I based mine off. My card is an older SB -
it's a Live 5.1 or some such beast - OEM if I remember.

I don't think I changed very much at all.

-- 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Why 2 cards for PIP?

[Maverick]

This is slightly OT, but related. Can you watch a recorded show and
use the PIP window for the single tuner card TV playback? (or
visa-versa). I know it couldn't be done on a PVR-350 TVout, which is
what I'm currently using, but can this be done with normal TVout's?

-Kenneth
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[mythtv-users] Sync problems with nuvexport

[Rex Wheeler]

I have a MythTv box (.17) that I am trying to export recordings from. My
capture card is a PVR-150 so my .NUV files are RJPG based.

I am trying to export recordings so I can archive them to DVD. I can get
nuvexport to run and generate the export, but when I do so, the audio
ends up being slightly out of sync. It doesn't seem to matter if I
enable cut lists or not, or if I operate on files that have been
transcoded or not. (Most of my files have not been transcoded.)

I have recorded files back to October 2003 through current. (And have
used versions of MythTv that correspond back that far.) The problem is
consistent for all my files.

The amount that the sync is off is not consistent within the exported
file. I have tried altering the nuvexport scripts and manually adjusting
the delay when the video and audio are put back together, but since the
audio sync seems to drift, this doesn't work.

The MythTv native interface plays the files just fine.

I have noticed that there is a utility nuv2avi that is supposed to deal
with the sync issues better, but it doesn't handle RJPG files yet.

Short of hooking another PVR or DVD recorder to the output of my MythTv
box, does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can get my RJPG based
NUV files exported to something I can burn on a DVD with correct audio
sync?

I would be happy if someone could definitively tell me that: 

1) Yeah, its broke, you are going to have to wait for nuv2avi; go buy a
DVR and record the output of your Myth box; or write the code yourself.

Or 

2) I have your configuration and I had the same problem and I got it to
work by...

Or 

3) I have your configuration and it really just does work for me. You
have something screwy with your setup.

But not

4) That ought to work...

Thanks,

Rex 


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[PATCH] Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

[Risto Treksler]

Hi,

I haven't figured out why the minimum length is still not being honoured 
and so I am going to privately send you the full debug output
from a couple of such shows

NOTE:
I think it's OK to have commercials shorter than 60sec 
right in the beginning of the show!! 
these are detected fine all the time and should continue to be detected as is

however there shouldn't be any really short commercial sections 
in the middle of the show, but it's flagging them nonetheless
- (using method "all" with strict checking enabled)


ALSO here's a patch that fixes a few things

1) I DO NOT ignore logos in blank frames in STRICT mode

- this alone has eliminated virtually all false positives
- it even works reasonably well with shows that leave the logo up
  i end up having to watch the first or the last commercial, 
  but that's ok b/c there are no false positives.
  (There has got to be a way to: ONLY ignore these logos
   if there are no completely blank frames at all in the show)

2) fix for the messed up data in my previous post 

- long long vs. long
- "(long)it.key()"  probably would have done it as well
- it didn't like %7lld either

3) fix for "white frames" triggering false positives

- NOT ONLY  "(max - min) <= blankFrameMaxDiff"
- BUT ALSO "max < some reasonable amount"



On Monday 11 April 2005 04:07 pm, Chris Pinkham wrote:
> > downloaded todays CVS and reflagged
> > it detected and flagged an obviously false commercial of just 8 frames
> > long
> >
> > "white frames" like those in explosions and in scene transitions in Cold
> > Case also trigger false positives every time
>
> If you use the same instructions I gave the others earlier in this thread
> and email me (privately) the debug output, it might help me find and fix
> this.
>
> > 2005-04-11 14:31:23.170 Final Commercial Break Map
> > 2005-04-11 14:31:23.170
> > ---
> >
> > 2005-04-11 14:31:23.170 d : 7639 (00:04:00.04) (14)
> > 2005-04-11 14:31:23.171 d : 7646 (00:05:00.04) (14)
> > 2005-04-11 14:31:23.171 d : 102549 (00:04:00.56) (58)
> > 2005-04-11 14:31:23.171 d : 107739 (00:05:00.59) (51)
> > 2005-04-11 14:31:23.171
> > ---
>
> On second thought, something looks plain weird about this output anyway. 
> The output is all weird.  Have you done a "make distclean" lately?  If not,
> can you do that then remake and rerun flagging and see if you get the same
> results.

-- 
Risto Treksler
Elkhorn Lodge
Banff, Alberta, Canada


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RE: [mythtv-users] Fwd: EPIA SP now available to mailing list members!

[Jim Turpin]

I got it too...and I should add the link..

http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=444&a=%5b%5bauthKey%5d%5d


-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:48 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: [mythtv-users] Fwd: EPIA SP now available to mailing list members!

This could be of interest for some. ;)

-- Forwarded message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Apr 11, 2005 8:46 PM
Subject: EPIA SP now available to mailing list members!
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Greetings! 

We have received a very limited number of VIA's EPIA SP 13000
motherboards, and as a mailing list member, we're giving you the
opportunity to purchase before anyone else on a first-come,
first-served basis. We have approximately 1 board available for every
350 list members.

The EPIA SP can be considered to be the next generation EPIA M, with
MPEG-4 acceleration and SATA onboard. All cases compatible with the
EPIA M will work, including the Travla C158, C137, Morex Venus 668,
669, 3677, 3688, C146 and C147 cases. The SP boards can support up to
DDR400 (PC3200) DIMMs, but will also work fine with DDR266 (PC2100)
and DDR333 (PC2700) memory. Please don't ask us about the SP 8000E yet
- it will not be available until our next batch of boards arrive!

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[mythtv-users] Fwd: EPIA SP now available to mailing list members!

[cythrault]

This could be of interest for some. ;)

-- Forwarded message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Apr 11, 2005 8:46 PM
Subject: EPIA SP now available to mailing list members!
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Greetings! 

We have received a very limited number of VIA's EPIA SP 13000
motherboards, and as a mailing list member, we're giving you the
opportunity to purchase before anyone else on a first-come,
first-served basis. We have approximately 1 board available for every
350 list members.

The EPIA SP can be considered to be the next generation EPIA M, with
MPEG-4 acceleration and SATA onboard. All cases compatible with the
EPIA M will work, including the Travla C158, C137, Morex Venus 668,
669, 3677, 3688, C146 and C147 cases. The SP boards can support up to
DDR400 (PC3200) DIMMs, but will also work fine with DDR266 (PC2100)
and DDR333 (PC2700) memory. Please don't ask us about the SP 8000E yet
- it will not be available until our next batch of boards arrive!

-- 
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[mythtv-users] XVMC Doesnt work the first time

[Mario Limonciello]

I'm using a CVS checkout of myth from earlier this afternoon, and 
running into issues with XvMC.

If I try to enable it the first time on a fresh boot I'll get errors as 
follows:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ mythfrontend 2005-04-12 00:06:48.443 New DB 
connection, total: 1
Total desktop width=1280, height=1024, numscreens=1
2005-04-12 00:06:48.447 Using screen 0, 1280x1024 at 0,0
2005-04-12 00:06:48.450 mythfrontend version: 0.18.20050409-1 www.mythtv.org
2005-04-12 00:06:48.451 Enabled verbose msgs : important general
Total desktop width=1280, height=1024, numscreens=1
2005-04-12 00:06:48.673 Using screen 0, 1280x1024 at 0,0
2005-04-12 00:06:48.674 Switching to square mode (Iulius)
2005-04-12 00:06:49.563 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin.
mythtv: could not open config file /home/supermario/.mythtv/lircrc
mythtv: No such file or directory
Failed to read lirc config /home/supermario/.mythtv/lircrc for mythtv
2005-04-12 00:06:50.960 All Programs
2005-04-12 00:06:51.269 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.10.6:6543 
(try 1 of 5)
2005-04-12 00:06:51.276 Using protocol version 15
2005-04-12 00:06:53.336 New DB connection, total: 2
2005-04-12 00:06:53.935 Opening audio device 'default'.
Using XvMC version: 1.0
XvMC found and using IDCT surface
2005-04-12 00:06:53.963 Using XV port 177
Unable to create XvMC Context return status:11 BadAlloc
2005-04-12 00:06:54.577 Changing from None to WatchingPreRecorded
2005-04-12 00:06:54.577 Decoder not alive, and trying to play..
2005-04-12 00:06:54.679 Changing from None to None

Now if I launch xine I'll also get XvMC related errors:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ xine 
/mnt/video/1013_2005041119_20050411193000 nuv
This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.3.
(c) 2000-2004 The xine Team.
abort: video_out_xvmc.c:668: xvmc_set_context: Aborting.
Aborted

The second time I launch Xine however, it will work just as it should.
If I launch myth after the fact, I'll get some color key related errors, 
but XvMC actually works.  Is there any particular reason why this should 
be happening?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ mythfrontend
2005-04-12 00:13:14.314 New DB connection, total: 1
Total desktop width=1280, height=1024, numscreens=1
2005-04-12 00:13:14.318 Using screen 0, 1280x1024 at 0,0
2005-04-12 00:13:14.321 mythfrontend version: 0.18.20050409-1 www.mythtv.org
2005-04-12 00:13:14.321 Enabled verbose msgs : important general
Total desktop width=1280, height=1024, numscreens=1
2005-04-12 00:13:14.525 Using screen 0, 1280x1024 at 0,0
2005-04-12 00:13:14.527 Switching to square mode (Iulius)
mythtv: could not open config file /home/supermario/.mythtv/lircrc
mythtv: No such file or directory
Failed to read lirc config /home/supermario/.mythtv/lircrc for mythtv
2005-04-12 00:13:15.345 Joystick disabled.
2005-04-12 00:13:15.354 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin.
2005-04-12 00:13:16.600 All Programs
2005-04-12 00:13:16.907 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.10.6:6543 
(try 1 of 5)
2005-04-12 00:13:16.914 Using protocol version 15
2005-04-12 00:13:17.223 New DB connection, total: 2
2005-04-12 00:13:17.284 Opening audio device 'default'.
Using XvMC version: 1.0
XvMC found and using IDCT surface
2005-04-12 00:13:17.340 Using XV port 177
X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8
 Major opcode:  140
 Minor opcode:  14
 Resource id:  0x1c8
2005-04-12 00:13:17.347 Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it.
You likely won't get any video.
2005-04-12 00:13:17.576 Changing from None to WatchingPreRecorded
2005-04-12 00:13:17.576 Realtime priority would require SUID as root.
XvMC: picture structure FRAME
2005-04-12 00:13:17.737 Video timing method: SGI OpenGL
X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8
 Major opcode:  140
 Minor opcode:  14
 Resource id:  0x1c8
2005-04-12 00:13:18.497 Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it.
You likely won't get any video.
2005-04-12 00:13:18.537 Changing from WatchingPreRecorded to None
2005-04-12 00:13:18.564 Changing from None to None

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[mythtv-users] last image from mythtv or mythvideo re-appears on screen

[Gabe Rubin]

This may be better suited for the ivtv list, but when I stop playing
anything on myth (live tv, video, or recording), the final picture
from that input stays on the framebuffer (pvr-350).  It does not show
up on the menus, but when I select a new video or go to live tv, the 2
second pause I usually get now has that screen paused before the real
thing I am trying to watch shows up.

Any idea what is going on here?  It is not that big of a deal, but it
does seem wierd.  It used to be a black screen.  I had done a few
upgrades of my system, but put ivtv and myth-suite back to the most
stable version in the atrpms repo.

If I type the following, I get that last screen but ghosted and opage
in the background of my main screen until the fb gets something new to
pump out:
/usr/bin/ivtvfbctl /dev/fb0 -globalalpha -nolocalalpha.

Just seems a little wierd.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Lirc Mythtv and hauppauge pvr-250 on FC3

[Joe Votour]

I should probably clarify:
1. I use the RPMs from ATrpms.
2. When I say one year, I mean one year, spanning FC1,
FC2 and FC3.

-- Joe

--- Joe Votour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Works perfectly for me, and it has for over a year
> now.  I have a pair of PVR-250's (well, actually, a
> PVR-250 and a PVR-350, but I don't use the TV-Out),
> and I'm using my own universal remote control
> instead
> of the Hauppauge one.  (This just means different
> lircd.conf and .lircrc files, the principle behind
> it
> is the same.)
> 
> This is my modprobe.conf (derived from Jarod's
> HOWTO):
> alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c
> alias usb-controller ehci-hcd
> alias usb-controller1 ohci-hcd
> # nvidia kernel module
> alias char-major-195 nvidia-1_0-6629
> # ivtv modules setup
> alias char-major-81 videodev
> alias char-major-81-0 ivtv
> alias char-major-81-1 ivtv
> alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv
> alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv
> 
> install lirc_i2c /sbin/modprobe ivtv; /sbin/modprobe
> --ignore-install lirc_i2c
> remove snd-emu10k1 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store
> >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r
> --ignore-remove snd-emu10k1
> alias scsi_hostadapter sata_sis
> alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
> options snd-card-0 index=0
> alias eth0 sis900
> 
> Check to make sure that you have /dev/lirc and
> /dev/lircd, with proper permissions.
> 
> -- Joe
> 
> --- Derek Tattersall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Has anybody gotten this combintion working?
> > 
> > I downloaded and built the kernel, then downloaded
> > and built lirc-0.7.0 
> > and then followed the instructions in the
> > mythtv-HOWTO. Everything 
> > seemed to go well until I tried to put the
> required
> > lines in the 
> > modules.conf file. It eems that that file no
> longer
> > exists under redhat 
> > FC3. there is a modprobe.conf file, though the
> > syntax is a little 
> > different. Modprobe chokes on these lines:
> > 
> > add below ivtv msp3400 saa7115 tuner
> > add above ivtv lirc_dev lirc_i2c
> > 
> > I don't think they are a problem though.
> > 
> > so anyway I do:
> > 
> > modprobe lirc_i2c
> > modprobe lirc_dev
> > 
> > then
> > 
> > lircd
> > 
> > I check the log files:
> > Apr 11 22:32:26 ninja kernel: ivtv: i2c attach
> > [client=Hauppauge IR,ok]
> > Apr 11 22:32:26 ninja kernel: lirc_dev:
> > lirc_register_plugin:sample_rate: 10
> > Apr 11 22:34:07 ninja kernel: lirc_dev: IR Remote
> > Control driver 
> > registered, at major 61
> > 
> > Then I start irw and start pressing buttons.
> Nothing
> > happens. The remote 
> > does work in windows, so it's not a hardware
> > problem.
> > 
> > Does anyone out there have any suggestions on
> where
> > to look now?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Derek Tattersall
> > 
> >  
> > 
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Re: [mythtv-users] recording HD content

[Joe Votour]

I don't do HD myself (I guess I'm behind the times
with my analog cable), but yes, it can be done. 
However, if you plan on using a system with a
proprietary system (pretty much anything but OTA in
the U.S.), then you'll have to use their set-top box
to receive (and decrypt) the channels, and then record
them on your MythTV machine.  This can be done by
Composite/S-Video, coaxial (if your set-top box
outputs in coaxial) or (possibly) Firewire.

You'll also need to have some method for MythTV to
switch channels on the set-top - either a serial cable
(if supported on your set-top box) or an IR Blaster.

Also, note that apparently decoding HDTV in MythTV
requires a pretty beefy CPU and video card.  You
should search the archives for suggestions from other
people who are successfully doing this.

-- Joe

--- Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi everyone, 
> 
> Is it possible to record Discovery HD or other
> non-local broadcast HD from 
> Dish Network, Direct TV, Comcast or other program
> providers using HTPC? 
> Right now, I only have OTA HD recording via air2pc. 
> 
> Any comments will be greatly appreciated! 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Lirc Mythtv and hauppauge pvr-250 on FC3

[Joe Votour]

Works perfectly for me, and it has for over a year
now.  I have a pair of PVR-250's (well, actually, a
PVR-250 and a PVR-350, but I don't use the TV-Out),
and I'm using my own universal remote control instead
of the Hauppauge one.  (This just means different
lircd.conf and .lircrc files, the principle behind it
is the same.)

This is my modprobe.conf (derived from Jarod's HOWTO):
alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c
alias usb-controller ehci-hcd
alias usb-controller1 ohci-hcd
# nvidia kernel module
alias char-major-195 nvidia-1_0-6629
# ivtv modules setup
alias char-major-81 videodev
alias char-major-81-0 ivtv
alias char-major-81-1 ivtv
alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv
alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv

install lirc_i2c /sbin/modprobe ivtv; /sbin/modprobe
--ignore-install lirc_i2c
remove snd-emu10k1 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store
>/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r
--ignore-remove snd-emu10k1
alias scsi_hostadapter sata_sis
alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
options snd-card-0 index=0
alias eth0 sis900

Check to make sure that you have /dev/lirc and
/dev/lircd, with proper permissions.

-- Joe

--- Derek Tattersall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anybody gotten this combintion working?
> 
> I downloaded and built the kernel, then downloaded
> and built lirc-0.7.0 
> and then followed the instructions in the
> mythtv-HOWTO. Everything 
> seemed to go well until I tried to put the required
> lines in the 
> modules.conf file. It eems that that file no longer
> exists under redhat 
> FC3. there is a modprobe.conf file, though the
> syntax is a little 
> different. Modprobe chokes on these lines:
> 
> add below ivtv msp3400 saa7115 tuner
> add above ivtv lirc_dev lirc_i2c
> 
> I don't think they are a problem though.
> 
> so anyway I do:
> 
> modprobe lirc_i2c
> modprobe lirc_dev
> 
> then
> 
> lircd
> 
> I check the log files:
> Apr 11 22:32:26 ninja kernel: ivtv: i2c attach
> [client=Hauppauge IR,ok]
> Apr 11 22:32:26 ninja kernel: lirc_dev:
> lirc_register_plugin:sample_rate: 10
> Apr 11 22:34:07 ninja kernel: lirc_dev: IR Remote
> Control driver 
> registered, at major 61
> 
> Then I start irw and start pressing buttons. Nothing
> happens. The remote 
> does work in windows, so it's not a hardware
> problem.
> 
> Does anyone out there have any suggestions on where
> to look now?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Derek Tattersall
> 
>  
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[mythtv-users] sound goes away when changing channels

[Neil]

Hi everyone, 

I installed the latest cvs version yesterday. I only have Air2pc capture 
card. When watching the first channel that comes up when I press 
WatchTV(livetv), the sound is ok. Once I select another channel, picture 
gets displayed but no sound. I quit livetv and select it again. The last 
channel now gets a sound. What is the fix for this? 

Any help will be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks. 

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[mythtv-users] recording HD content

[Neil]

Hi everyone, 

Is it possible to record Discovery HD or other non-local broadcast HD from 
Dish Network, Direct TV, Comcast or other program providers using HTPC? 
Right now, I only have OTA HD recording via air2pc. 

Any comments will be greatly appreciated! 

Thanks, 

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Re: [mythtv-users] Why 2 cards for PIP?

[Kevin Saenz]

> I can understand why this user would be confused.  That you need 2 tuners
> is an artifact of Myth's particular implementation of PiP -- watching two
> different live broadcasts at once.  An odd interpretation for a program
> where the whole idea is not to watch live broadcasts at all.
> 
> Original PiP in TV sets, in fact, was single-tuner.   You used it to watch
> a live broadcast in a box while watching a signal from something else like
> a VCR.  (If the VCR had a tuner you could watch 2 live broadcasts.)
> "2 tuner PiP" was the 2nd generation of PiP.
> 
No I never had a vcr configured anywhere near the Mythtv server.
the only thing I had attached to the tv that displayed Mythtv was a
dvd player, and FM radio.

Last year my set up was.

In lounge room
80cm LG TV
LG Home theater pack (includes little speakers, dvd player, and radio)
Computer system (AMD 2800+, 512 Meg RAM, 80Gig HDD, Fusion DVB card, NIC)
belkin switch/hub

Kitchen
Hp pavilion ze4103s

Study

2x Computer systems (same as above without dvb card)

I could watch tv using mythtv in the lounge room leave it running, and
walk into the study activate mythfrontend and what another channel,
while recording another show using mythtv.

earlier this month I rebuilt the box after my move I accidently called
up PIP but I can't remember the key I pressed I am not sure if it's
Myth or mplayer related.

> I don't think you should ever need PiP once you embrace the DVR vision,
> or if you need it, it would be extremely rare.  Almost all TVs made recently
> have it anyway, so I have never felt it should be a priority in Myth, 2 tuners
> or not.
> 
I would like to have to ability to watch two seperate shows without
the need to purchase another dvb. PIP can be handy and the TV set
doesn't have PIP capability. so it is handy
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Re: [mythtv-users] Why 2 cards for PIP?

[Ryan A. Carris]

On Apr 11, 2005 9:17 PM, Brad Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(snip) 
> I don't think you should ever need PiP once you embrace the DVR vision,
> or if you need it, it would be extremely rare.  Almost all TVs made recently
> have it anyway, so I have never felt it should be a priority in Myth, 2 tuners
> or not.
> 
> 

I've been told before that I am wrong, but I still like watching two
football games at once; flipping back and forth with the PIP.
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Re: [mythtv-users] $25 tuner card with remote

[Alex]

On 4/11/05, John Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=7130-TV&sourceid=qIpmQlqv2QAGAlJopJeX
> 
> does anyone have experience with this chipset? will it work under linux?
> i'm in need of a cheapo tuner and wondering if i'll be pulling my hair
> out getting this working..
> 
> --John

I think you might have better luck with this one:

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=TTOM878A&cpc=RECOM
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[mythtv-users] Lirc Mythtv and hauppauge pvr-250 on FC3

[Derek Tattersall]

Has anybody gotten this combintion working?
I downloaded and built the kernel, then downloaded and built lirc-0.7.0 
and then followed the instructions in the mythtv-HOWTO. Everything 
seemed to go well until I tried to put the required lines in the 
modules.conf file. It eems that that file no longer exists under redhat 
FC3. there is a modprobe.conf file, though the syntax is a little 
different. Modprobe chokes on these lines:

add below ivtv msp3400 saa7115 tuner
add above ivtv lirc_dev lirc_i2c
I don't think they are a problem though.
so anyway I do:
modprobe lirc_i2c
modprobe lirc_dev
then
lircd
I check the log files:
Apr 11 22:32:26 ninja kernel: ivtv: i2c attach [client=Hauppauge IR,ok]
Apr 11 22:32:26 ninja kernel: lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin:sample_rate: 10
Apr 11 22:34:07 ninja kernel: lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver 
registered, at major 61

Then I start irw and start pressing buttons. Nothing happens. The remote 
does work in windows, so it's not a hardware problem.

Does anyone out there have any suggestions on where to look now?
Thanks
Derek Tattersall

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Re: [mythtv-users] commercial flagging idea - commercial "fingerprinting"

[Brad Templeton]

Yup, you'll find threads (often including me) about man of these sorts
of features.   The long term version -- aggregating which parts of programs
people watch at normal speed and which they don't -- provides the only
undefeatable commercial detection algorithm, unless you are among the first
to watch a show, but it's a long way off.   Fingerprints based on various
video and audio fingerprinting -- or even easier, on closed caption text when
present -- is a lot easier.Some of these can actually be applied without
collaboration, in that once you have identified a budweiser commercial by its
closed caption text you can spot it again everywhere.  (Of course not all
commercials have captions.)

A _really_ fancy fingerprinting system could actually fingerprint shows and
notice when the same snippet of video appears in two different shows -- almost
always a commercial, but not always always -- and then cleverly delete the
redundant fragment and point to it. (Something myth can't yet do of course but
may be planned for the future.)  One reason that's interesting is that aside
from spotting repeated commercials and repeated shows, it can also let you
browse the commercials and start learning what they are.  Ie. some people like
to capture the movie trailers.  Though web download is often a better idea 
there.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Why 2 cards for PIP?

[Brad Templeton]

On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 08:00:55PM -0400, Khanh Tran wrote:
> > > I was wondering why would I need more than 1 card to have PIP 
> > > capabilities especailly if my card under other oses is capable of 
> > > running PIP?
> > >
> > You need 2 tuners. Does your card have 2 tuners? If so, you may not 
> > need a second card. I say "may" because you still need to make it work
> 
> > with both tuners.
> > 
> How would you tell if I have more than one tuner in the card? I know
> that before I up graded my machine to the latest drivers and latest
> version of mythtv I was capable of watching tv on 2 machines and record
> a show. Now I can't the recent versions of drivers or mythtv tells me
> that the card is in use.

I can understand why this user would be confused.  That you need 2 tuners
is an artifact of Myth's particular implementation of PiP -- watching two
different live broadcasts at once.  An odd interpretation for a program
where the whole idea is not to watch live broadcasts at all.

Original PiP in TV sets, in fact, was single-tuner.   You used it to watch
a live broadcast in a box while watching a signal from something else like
a VCR.  (If the VCR had a tuner you could watch 2 live broadcasts.)
"2 tuner PiP" was the 2nd generation of PiP.

I don't think you should ever need PiP once you embrace the DVR vision,
or if you need it, it would be extremely rare.  Almost all TVs made recently
have it anyway, so I have never felt it should be a priority in Myth, 2 tuners
or not.  
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 500 static on both tuners

[Matt]

On Apr 11, 2005 5:49 PM, Garry Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2005 4:43 PM, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What revision is your PVR-500?
> >
> 
> D592. Are you still having trouble with yours?
> --
> Garry
> 

Mines the D492 :(
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythfrontend locks after 30 minutes on live TV

[Colin Smillie]

On Apr 11, 2005 4:18 PM, Khanh Tran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After about 30 minutes of live TV, Mythfrontend freezes.  I can exit
> back to the menu and start watch live TV again, but that's annoying.
> I've coped the log below, which keep repeating until I exit back to the
> menu.  Any help is appreciated.  I'm using 0.16 compiled from source.
>
> 2005-04-11 14:28:33 ReadStringList timeout (quick).
> Remote encoder not responding.
> ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/local/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
> QSocketDevice::writeBlock: Invalid socket
> 2005-04-11 14:28:34 Error writing stringlist
> Remote encoder not responding.

Which tuner card are you using?  I believe I've seen this problem in
the last with my PVR-350 and an older version of ivtv.
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Re: [mythtv-users] debs 0.16

[Cecil Watson]

Hello,
Johan Arens wrote:
Hi guys 

Do you know where I could get the debs for 0.16 ?
My backend is currently running 0.16 and I'm customizing a knoppix livecd. 

Thanks in advance 

Yohan
 

You can download an older version of KnoppMyth which has 0.16 and is live.
ftp://sb.rdt1.org/KnoppMyth/r4v5/
Regards,
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RE: [mythtv-users] Why 2 cards for PIP?

[Khanh Tran]

Well, what card do you have?  You could easily ge the specs online...

-Khanh


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Saenz
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 7:22 PM
To: Robert Anderson
Cc: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Why 2 cards for PIP?

> >
> > I was wondering why would I need more than 1 card to have PIP 
> > capabilities especailly if my card under other oses is capable of 
> > running PIP?
> >
> You need 2 tuners. Does your card have 2 tuners? If so, you may not 
> need a second card. I say "may" because you still need to make it work

> with both tuners.
> 
How would you tell if I have more than one tuner in the card? I know
that before I up graded my machine to the latest drivers and latest
version of mythtv I was capable of watching tv on 2 machines and record
a show. Now I can't the recent versions of drivers or mythtv tells me
that the card is in use.
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on XBox (probably a bit OT)

[Chad]

Do you have a properly setup /etc/hosts file?  That could be causing
you the heartburn here.  Also check perms by touching files (I find
that the easiest solution for basic troubleshooting permissions):
cd /mythtv/recording/directory
touch anything
If you get permission denied, you will want to investigate further, if
not, it's likely a problem is name resolution somewhere...

Good Luck!

On Apr 11, 2005 7:18 AM, Phill Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I agree, this seems like connection problem to mythtv files.
> >
> > Do you have samba properly set up in your linux machine and you can access
> > it with another computer ?
> >
> > Did you confgure the samba settigns to xbmcmythtv options ? If I remember
> > correctly, the syntax shoud be smb://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sharefolder
> 
> OK - some progress. I found that if I used the mythtv backend hostname
> rather than IP address in the smb:// string then it failed. When I use
> the IP address I get a little further. Why is that?
> 
> I can see the recorded programs and when I try to play one it says "Do
> you want to automatically skip commercials", then when I say "No"
> (don't want to upset the TV execs now, do we) it comes up with an
> error message saying "Invalid computer name". So frustrating - I
> thought I'd nailed it before that happened!
> 
> One further piece of info here is that there is an option to copy the
> file to local disk on the Xbox, and that works fine. So it's finding
> the file and has read access.
> 
> Could this therefore be some issue the mythtv protocol has with the
> name of the Xbox, which is for some reason "The Bear" (was just like
> that after I modded it)? I'm wondering whether it doesn't like the
> space between the 2 words. I'm assuming it's the Xbox name it doesn't
> like - is that a valid assumption?
> 
> Or any other ideas, anyone?
> 
> Regards,
> Phill
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[mythtv-users] debs 0.16

[Johan Arens]

Hi guys 

Do you know where I could get the debs for 0.16 ?

My backend is currently running 0.16 and I'm customizing a knoppix livecd. 

Thanks in advance 

Yohan
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Re: [mythtv-users] Why 2 cards for PIP?

[Kevin Saenz]

> >
> > I was wondering why would I need more than 1 card to have PIP
> > capabilities especailly if my card under other oses is capable of
> > running PIP?
> >
> You need 2 tuners. Does your card have 2 tuners? If so, you may not
> need a second card. I say "may" because you still need to make it work
> with both tuners.
> 
How would you tell if I have more than one tuner in the card? I know
that before I up graded my machine to the latest drivers and latest
version of mythtv I was capable of watching tv on 2 machines and
record a show. Now I can't the recent versions of drivers or mythtv
tells me that the card is in use.
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Re: [mythtv-users] commercial flagging idea - commercial"fingerprinting"

[Matt]

> The only issue I can really see here comes that this is required that
> people have to upload their verified commercials.  I can forsee that
> there are many people who would rather be lazy and download this data
> than upload their own.  There would have to be some sort of system to
> enforce that everyone puts in their own share of data.  Perhaps if you
> use this feature, you are required to hand verify your own results for
> some pre defined percentage of the shows, and report those.
> 

I see what you are saying... and just based soley on my experience
using musicbrainz, it'll upload fingerprints for the songs that you
verify are correct.  However, I don't think it'd be a problem if 10%
of the community were the ones editing shows.  I for sure would not
edit every show I record, but I'd be more than happy to edit the ones
I care about the most.  That's the philosophy behind musicbrainz as
well: self-moderation of content you are familiar with and care about.

So if a majority of people just wanted their mythcommflag job to go
out and see what others have submitted, then that'd be ok at least by
my standards.  The theory is that it'll only help if people use it. 
If no one manually checks the commflag and uploads their
"fingerprint", then mythcommflag will work just as well as it did
before.  These results will only _help_ mythcommflag by boosting it's
algorithm with human verified data that only gets "smarter" the more
people verify and upload data.


> This also brings up the point that of some shows won't have very much
> data - say for example a show local only to your area.  This predefined
> percentage should take a look at what shows have the most data being
> reported, and then take a look at what shows you record. 

Yea, but I don't think of it that way.  Musicbrainz has the same
problem.  Lets say you rip a CD of a band that happens to be a local
band no one knows and only has 10 CDs in existence.  You can
accurately identify them (if you want), but you aren't going to get
probably a single other person to do so to strengthen the fingerprint
and data.

However, if you rip a CD from the most popular band in the world, you
can guarentee hundreds of others will probably do the same and it'll
make the data even better and "smarter" because there's so much more
data to verify against and make a proper comparison.

Also, think about the variables that musicbrainz deals with (320Kbps
MP3 vs 64Kbps MP3 vs radio recording vs live vs acoustic vs covers..
etc... etc...).  Same goes for TV.  You have HDTV vs Cable vs OTA vs
crappy cable (like me) etc etc.  So, if 10% of the myth community
records "Law & Order" and verifies the commercial, uploads their
fingerprints, then you have a variety of information that can be
compiled to make it smarter because of more data.

Who cares if 2 people recorded "Bob's Fishing Show" on some local
public channel?   But what if 500 people record "Lost"?  See the
difference?
 
> If your shows
> being recorded don't have very much data, you would be required to
> submit data for your shows.
> 
> What do people think of this?

I think requiring people to do anything is the wrong approach.  I
think this should definitly be an opt-in type of deal.  If you want
to... go for it, if you don't... don't.  But just know that if it's a
more popular show, that you might want to help out because in the end
you'll benefit as well.  :)

Matt
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 500 static on both tuners

[Garry Cook]

This is the last time I'll respond to my own post, I promise. I just
want to update the archives with the fact that I now have all four
tuners working properly.

I tried forcing the tuner types in modprobe.conf, which made things
worse. So, I removed the line, rebooted, and decided to check the IRQ
assignments one more time. In the BIOS, I moved the PVR250 (which was
being detected as a 150 and had no audio) from IRQ9 to IRQ10. That did
it. Everything now works perfectly.

Thanks again for the help everyone.

-- Garry
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Re: [mythtv-users] commercial flagging idea - commercial "fingerprinting"

[Meatwad]

On Apr 11, 2005 2:24 PM, *Matt* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:

Hello All, =D
Sorry this is long:  For the short version, just read the first two
paragraphs.
  I had an idea a few months ago, and just thought I'd throw it out
there.  I think that mythcommflag is getting better and better.
However, sometimes there are times it'll goof up, and some shows are
notroriously harder than others to flag correctly by their unique
filmographic nature(Lost, Law & Order, CSI, etc...).
How about a method where users can validate mythcommflag's results and
make that info available to the myth community to strengthen the
accuracy of commercial flagging by using verified data.
In a perfect world, all of the commercial breaks would all happen at the 
same time. Everywhere.

In reality, they do not. Every master cable headend follows a local 
origination commercial insertion schedule sent daily by their traffic 
and billing department. LO comercials are notoriously inconsistent when 
they start and stop as they are cued by tones from the satellites and 
last until the T&B schedule *thinks* they should end. Furthermore, LO 
commercials are stored and played back from either 1/2" or 3/4 VTR decks 
(old-n-busted) or by digital insertion systems (new-hotness). In either 
case, the tapes are remastered to the cableco's preferred format or 
encoded on commercial MPEG-2 gear and stored on VOD servers built for 
this purpose (e.g. SeaChange). This process would require every 
underpaid tech at every headend to get it right every single time. They 
don't.

D*TV and Dish subscibers have it somewhat better but inconsistencies 
still occur.

IIRC, this has been discussed here before in greater detail with a good 
number of pro's and con's.

--
Meatwad
[1] Who am I kidding? A perect world would have no commercials at all.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Why 2 cards for PIP?

[Robert Anderson]

On Apr 11, 2005 3:20 PM, Kevin Saenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I was wondering why would I need more than 1 card to have PIP
> capabilities especailly if my card under other oses is capable of
> running PIP?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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You need 2 tuners. Does your card have 2 tuners? If so, you may not
need a second card. I say "may" because you still need to make it work
with both tuners.

-- 
Rob Anderson
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 500 static on both tuners

[Matt]

What revision is your PVR-500?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Adding a Hauppauge WinTV PVR to an existing MythTV box...

[Larry K]

My guess is...You install it, boot up, go into mythtvsetup and
configure another capture card.  I'd say everything else will work
as-is, (ie, ivtv driver is already there).   I'm planning to
do the same thing as you.On Apr 11, 2005 5:22 PM, Derek Conniffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi All again!I'm really enjoying my MythTV box now - I've got a PVR350 and a Nexus-S cardin there working really well and providing lots of entertainment for thewhole family.There are times when I'd really like to record two programs at the same timeand unless one is "normal" TV and one is Satellite I can't.So I've picked up another Hauppauge card from Ebay...It's a "Hauppauge WinTV PVR" (but not a 250 or 350) - however it seems to beBT878 based (hello BTTV) but also seems to have a MPEG2 encoder on-board.Does anyone know how I can get this to work with an existing MythTVinstallation?  I'm using my PVR350 for MPEG2 TV output (really good whenusing a PVR350 and a Nexus-S!) but I'd guess that if I only use the BTTVdriver for the WinTV PVR card then the recordings wouldn't be MPEG2 bydefault?Is there some way to use the MPEG encoder on the Hauppauge WintTV PVR or isthere some way to record from the card and then store in MPEG2 format forplayback on the PVR350?Many many thanks as always,DerekPS my lspci -v output for the my Hauppauge WinTV PVR card::01:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 VideoCapture (rev 11)Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc.: Unknown device 4500Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 23Memory at f6afe000 (32-bit, prefetchable)Capabilities: [44] Vital Product DataCapabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2:01:0b.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 AudioCapture (rev 11)Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc.: Unknown device 4500Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 23Memory at f6aff000 (32-bit, prefetchable)Capabilities: [44] Vital Product DataCapabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.809 / Virus Database: 551 - Release Date: 09/12/2004___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users___
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Re: [mythtv-users] DVD sing xine on PVR-350 TV out?

[Bob Wiegand]

Gary M wrote:

On Apr 10, 2005 8:02 AM, *Bob Wiegand* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:

xine -V xsh -p -f -g -s dvd
This isn't using the PVR-350's decoder so the computer has to do
all the
work.
Where do you get the sound from? The soundcard or through the PVR-350?
--
Gary M

It comes out the sound card.
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Regards,
Bob Wiegand
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[mythtv-users] Why 2 cards for PIP?

[Kevin Saenz]

Hi all,

I was wondering why would I need more than 1 card to have PIP
capabilities especailly if my card under other oses is capable of
running PIP?

Thanks

Kevin
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 500 static on both tuners

[Garry Cook]

One step forward, two steps back...

In answer to my own question from the previous post, I found the
recording profiles in MythTV Utilities--> Setup --> TV Settings -->
Recording Profiles and set them up to capture at 720x480. The PVR 500
now works flawlessley. However, for some reason my first PVR250 is
being detected as a PVR150, and I get no audio on this card. The video
is also a bit jerky.

I think what I'll do is run mythtvsetup, delete the cards, and then
set them up in the order of 1,2,3,0, so that /dev/video0 will be the
last card used. That way, I will at least have three tuners until I
can get this figured out.

-- Garry
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Re: [mythtv-users] commercial flagging idea - commercial"fingerprinting"

[Mario Limonciello]

dean collins wrote:
Centralized flagging makes a great idea and whilst a complex project
should be possible.
The musicbrainz reference is a great starting point.
Does MythTV have a centralized bounty system? If so I'll kick it off
with an offer of $100.
Cheers,
Dean
 

The only issue I can really see here comes that this is required that 
people have to upload their verified commercials.  I can forsee that 
there are many people who would rather be lazy and download this data 
than upload their own.  There would have to be some sort of system to 
enforce that everyone puts in their own share of data.  Perhaps if you 
use this feature, you are required to hand verify your own results for 
some pre defined percentage of the shows, and report those. 

This also brings up the point that of some shows won't have very much 
data - say for example a show local only to your area.  This predefined 
percentage should take a look at what shows have the most data being 
reported, and then take a look at what shows you record.  If your shows 
being recorded don't have very much data, you would be required to 
submit data for your shows.

What do people think of this?
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Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

[Chris Pinkham]

> downloaded todays CVS and reflagged
> it detected and flagged an obviously false commercial of just 8 frames long
> 
> "white frames" like those in explosions and in scene transitions in Cold Case 
> also trigger false positives every time

If you use the same instructions I gave the others earlier in this thread
and email me (privately) the debug output, it might help me find and fix this.

> 2005-04-11 14:31:23.170 Final Commercial Break Map
> 2005-04-11 14:31:23.170 ---
> 
> 2005-04-11 14:31:23.170 d : 7639 (00:04:00.04) (14)
> 2005-04-11 14:31:23.171 d : 7646 (00:05:00.04) (14)
> 2005-04-11 14:31:23.171 d : 102549 (00:04:00.56) (58)
> 2005-04-11 14:31:23.171 d : 107739 (00:05:00.59) (51)
> 2005-04-11 14:31:23.171 ---

On second thought, something looks plain weird about this output anyway.  The
output is all weird.  Have you done a "make distclean" lately?  If not, can
you do that then remake and rerun flagging and see if you get the same
results. 

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Re: [mythtv-users] commercial flagging idea - commercial "fingerprinting"

[Christopher David Petersen]

On Apr 11, 2005 2:24 PM, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello All, =DSorry this is long:  For the short version, just read the first two paragraphs.  I had an idea a few months ago, and just thought I'd throw it outthere.  I think that mythcommflag is getting better and better.However, sometimes there are times it'll goof up, and some shows arenotroriously harder than others to flag correctly by their uniquefilmographic nature(Lost, Law & Order, CSI, etc...).How about a method where users can validate mythcommflag's results andmake that info available to the myth community to strengthen theaccuracy of commercial flagging by using verified data.For example.  You record an epsiode of "Lost".  You let mythcommflagrun, and it detects commercials 90% correct.  Then you go in and editthe recording and import the commercial flags by pressing "Z"... sofar, everything like normal.  Once the commercial markings are inthere, you edit them so they are correct (cut off the beginingcommercials before the start of the show, make sure commercials aredetected correctly, and make sure that there aren't any improperlydetected cuts in the middle of the show, etc).Then, once you have explicitly defined the commercials, some processcould identify these as " Human Verified to be Correct".  Then, thenext time a user runs mythcommflag on that episode, the service canverify it's results based on those verified results and adjustaccordingly.This is where it gets difficult and several different solutions mightbe available:1) Digital fingerprints - Not sure if you anyone is familiar withMusicBrainz (http://www.musicbrainz.org/) or not.  What it does istake an mp3 file, analysis it and make a digital finger print of it.Then, it sends that fingerprint to a database to compare with otherfingerprints that people have submitted.  It can then make acomparison and correctly identify the file and populate the ID3 tagsof an otherwise un-identified file.  The more people that ID a file,the "smarter" it becomes and the better it can do at identifyingfiles.  Once the program has been correctly marked, and some kind of"fingerprint" is made from the show, then it could be uploaded to acentral database where other's can look for that show and episode tocompare mythcommflag results so that the mythcommflag can do a betterjob based on the verified results sent by users who manually made surethe commercial detection was correct.2) Time based - Possibly more difficult, however you have to assumethat the time of the show between commercial breaks is going to be(nearly) identical.  So, in almost the same way, if mythcommflag has afalse positive for a commercial, it can review what others haveverified as correct and say "hey, there shouldn't be a commercial herebecause 40 other users say there is a time block of 15 minutes, not7.5 + commericial + 7.5 more, etc.3) Identify individual commercials (not the entire commercial break) -Along the same lines as #1, identify specific commercials.  So,anytime an acme company commercial is recorded, mythcommflagcould/would be able to identify it as a commercial soley because it's"learned" that it is.  This could possibly have more overhead andpossibly labor intensive.  With the constant turnover of advertising,as well as locally broadcast commercials, it might not be worth it andit'd be a ton of information.  However, it could see where this mightbe useful for short teaser clips you see at the begining or the end ofcertain shows or that certain networks frequently use.4) combination of the above - I think if you went with thefingerprint, a time based solution would almost be included in that.5) Other - I'm sure others would have other suggestions that mightwork for this.I know that this is a centralized approach, but seeings how it wouldbe what I call a "bonus" feature, people that don't want toparticipate wouldn't have to sort of thing.  Perhaps their's adecentralized approach as well.  Mythcommflag could still work WITHOUTthis feature, it's just something that can reinforce the accuracy ofcommercial flagging in myth.  I'm also not sure about the legalities,PC, etc that a methodology like this would have or Issac's stance onthe issue as I don't know if it's ever been thought of up to thepoint.Anyway, I'm not a developer, nor am I pleading or begging anyone todevelop this... I just think it sounds cool and if anyone has theknow-how or if a few developers think it'd be fun to work on it, I'dlove to help out any way I can.So, what do all of you think?  I know it could be a large project...Thanks!Matt___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
I've also been thinking about this sort of feature. It seems a little sad, that hundreds of CPU's start comm. flagging the same show minutes after it's ended. What about a task sharing system to aid commercial flagging?
 
Let me describe:
My machine and your machine have rec

RE: [mythtv-users] commercial flagging idea - commercial"fingerprinting"

[dean collins]

Centralized flagging makes a great idea and whilst a complex project
should be possible.

The musicbrainz reference is a great starting point.

Does MythTV have a centralized bounty system? If so I'll kick it off
with an offer of $100.


Cheers,
Dean 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 5:25 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: [mythtv-users] commercial flagging idea -
> commercial"fingerprinting"
> 
> Hello All, =D
> 
> Sorry this is long:  For the short version, just read the first two
> paragraphs.
> 
> 
>I had an idea a few months ago, and just thought I'd throw it out
> there.  I think that mythcommflag is getting better and better.
> However, sometimes there are times it'll goof up, and some shows are
> notroriously harder than others to flag correctly by their unique
> filmographic nature(Lost, Law & Order, CSI, etc...).
> 
> How about a method where users can validate mythcommflag's results and
> make that info available to the myth community to strengthen the
> accuracy of commercial flagging by using verified data.
> 
> 
> For example.  You record an epsiode of "Lost".  You let mythcommflag
> run, and it detects commercials 90% correct.  Then you go in and edit
> the recording and import the commercial flags by pressing "Z"... so
> far, everything like normal.  Once the commercial markings are in
> there, you edit them so they are correct (cut off the begining
> commercials before the start of the show, make sure commercials are
> detected correctly, and make sure that there aren't any improperly
> detected cuts in the middle of the show, etc).
> 
> Then, once you have explicitly defined the commercials, some process
> could identify these as " Human Verified to be Correct".  Then, the
> next time a user runs mythcommflag on that episode, the service can
> verify it's results based on those verified results and adjust
> accordingly.
> 
> This is where it gets difficult and several different solutions might
> be available:
> 
> 1) Digital fingerprints - Not sure if you anyone is familiar with
> MusicBrainz (http://www.musicbrainz.org/) or not.  What it does is
> take an mp3 file, analysis it and make a digital finger print of it.
> Then, it sends that fingerprint to a database to compare with other
> fingerprints that people have submitted.  It can then make a
> comparison and correctly identify the file and populate the ID3 tags
> of an otherwise un-identified file.  The more people that ID a file,
> the "smarter" it becomes and the better it can do at identifying
> files.  Once the program has been correctly marked, and some kind of
> "fingerprint" is made from the show, then it could be uploaded to a
> central database where other's can look for that show and episode to
> compare mythcommflag results so that the mythcommflag can do a better
> job based on the verified results sent by users who manually made sure
> the commercial detection was correct.
> 
> 2) Time based - Possibly more difficult, however you have to assume
> that the time of the show between commercial breaks is going to be
> (nearly) identical.  So, in almost the same way, if mythcommflag has a
> false positive for a commercial, it can review what others have
> verified as correct and say "hey, there shouldn't be a commercial here
> because 40 other users say there is a time block of 15 minutes, not
> 7.5 + commericial + 7.5 more, etc.
> 
> 3) Identify individual commercials (not the entire commercial break) -
> Along the same lines as #1, identify specific commercials.  So,
> anytime an acme company commercial is recorded, mythcommflag
> could/would be able to identify it as a commercial soley because it's
> "learned" that it is.  This could possibly have more overhead and
> possibly labor intensive.  With the constant turnover of advertising,
> as well as locally broadcast commercials, it might not be worth it and
> it'd be a ton of information.  However, it could see where this might
> be useful for short teaser clips you see at the begining or the end of
> certain shows or that certain networks frequently use.
> 
> 4) combination of the above - I think if you went with the
> fingerprint, a time based solution would almost be included in that.
> 
> 5) Other - I'm sure others would have other suggestions that might
> work for this.
> 
> 
> I know that this is a centralized approach, but seeings how it would
> be what I call a "bonus" feature, people that don't want to
> participate wouldn't have to sort of thing.  Perhaps their's a
> decentralized approach as well.  Mythcommflag could still work WITHOUT
> this feature, it's just something that can reinforce the accuracy of
> commercial flagging in myth.  I'm also not sure about the legalities,
> PC, etc that a methodology like this would have or Issac's stance on
> the issue as I don't know if it's ever been thought of up to the
> point.
> 
> Anyway, I'm

Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport

[Chris Petersen]

Well, perhaps that isn't my issue.  I tried to run the commands 
individually from the debug and they seemed to run ok, so What is it 
about running from nuvexport that could be the issue.  I searched the 
archives high and low, but nothing pointing to this issue.
shouldn't be any difference -- all nuvexport does is run those commands 
and watch them for you.  Are you running as a different user?

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 500 static on both tuners

[Garry Cook]

On Apr 11, 2005 11:56 AM, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2005 12:47 PM, Garry Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How do I determine which card and tuner correspond to /dev/videoX?
> > Is there a command to verify this, or do I just assume the card
> > directly below the AGP slot is /dev/video0 and count down from there?
> > Searching the archives for IRQ sharing did not yield much. I tried
> > booting with 'noacpi', but this did not seem to help. Any tips on
> > forcing IRQs?
> >
> 
> One way to try this is looking at your dmesg output and seeing which
> cards load.  They load for me in order.  0, 1, 2, 3
> 
> The other way should be:
> 
> ivtvctl -a -d /dev/video0 | more (then incrementing 1,2,3,x)... this
> will show you which card is being registered.  PVR-500s show up as two
> PVR-150s.
> 
> Matt
> 

Thanks Matt, that was very helpful. At this point I've upgraded my
BIOS, which may have helped. I can now manually change the IRQs in the
BIOS. However, two of them will continue to share one IRQ, I assume
these are the two 150s on the PVR500. However, I think that the issue
was caused by one of the tuner cards sharing an IRQ with my Nvidia
card, which I was able to move to a different IRQ.

So, now I have 4 tuners (on 3 cards) which all play audio and video.
However, /dev/video2 & 3 (PVR500) stretch the screen so I can only see
the left side. I made sure to set them to 720x480 capture, as per
Jarod's guide. However, when I run the command that you mention above
(ivtvctl -a -d /dev/videoX) each card shows that it is capturing at
480x480 (after a reboot).

Using 'ivtvctl -f ...' I set the cards back to capture at 720x480 and
it worked! All four tuners now show GOOD video and have audio as well.
Then I restarted Mythbackend, and was right back where I started. So,
it looks like this issue is almost solved (Thanks guys!). Now I just
need to know where to set the capture resolution in MythTV, I think...

-- 
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[mythtv-users] commercial flagging idea - commercial "fingerprinting"

[Matt]

Hello All, =D

Sorry this is long:  For the short version, just read the first two paragraphs.


   I had an idea a few months ago, and just thought I'd throw it out
there.  I think that mythcommflag is getting better and better. 
However, sometimes there are times it'll goof up, and some shows are
notroriously harder than others to flag correctly by their unique
filmographic nature(Lost, Law & Order, CSI, etc...).

How about a method where users can validate mythcommflag's results and
make that info available to the myth community to strengthen the
accuracy of commercial flagging by using verified data.


For example.  You record an epsiode of "Lost".  You let mythcommflag
run, and it detects commercials 90% correct.  Then you go in and edit
the recording and import the commercial flags by pressing "Z"... so
far, everything like normal.  Once the commercial markings are in
there, you edit them so they are correct (cut off the begining
commercials before the start of the show, make sure commercials are
detected correctly, and make sure that there aren't any improperly
detected cuts in the middle of the show, etc).

Then, once you have explicitly defined the commercials, some process
could identify these as " Human Verified to be Correct".  Then, the
next time a user runs mythcommflag on that episode, the service can
verify it's results based on those verified results and adjust
accordingly.

This is where it gets difficult and several different solutions might
be available:

1) Digital fingerprints - Not sure if you anyone is familiar with
MusicBrainz (http://www.musicbrainz.org/) or not.  What it does is
take an mp3 file, analysis it and make a digital finger print of it. 
Then, it sends that fingerprint to a database to compare with other
fingerprints that people have submitted.  It can then make a
comparison and correctly identify the file and populate the ID3 tags
of an otherwise un-identified file.  The more people that ID a file,
the "smarter" it becomes and the better it can do at identifying
files.  Once the program has been correctly marked, and some kind of
"fingerprint" is made from the show, then it could be uploaded to a
central database where other's can look for that show and episode to
compare mythcommflag results so that the mythcommflag can do a better
job based on the verified results sent by users who manually made sure
the commercial detection was correct.

2) Time based - Possibly more difficult, however you have to assume
that the time of the show between commercial breaks is going to be
(nearly) identical.  So, in almost the same way, if mythcommflag has a
false positive for a commercial, it can review what others have
verified as correct and say "hey, there shouldn't be a commercial here
because 40 other users say there is a time block of 15 minutes, not
7.5 + commericial + 7.5 more, etc.

3) Identify individual commercials (not the entire commercial break) -
Along the same lines as #1, identify specific commercials.  So,
anytime an acme company commercial is recorded, mythcommflag
could/would be able to identify it as a commercial soley because it's
"learned" that it is.  This could possibly have more overhead and
possibly labor intensive.  With the constant turnover of advertising,
as well as locally broadcast commercials, it might not be worth it and
it'd be a ton of information.  However, it could see where this might
be useful for short teaser clips you see at the begining or the end of
certain shows or that certain networks frequently use.

4) combination of the above - I think if you went with the
fingerprint, a time based solution would almost be included in that.

5) Other - I'm sure others would have other suggestions that might
work for this.


I know that this is a centralized approach, but seeings how it would
be what I call a "bonus" feature, people that don't want to
participate wouldn't have to sort of thing.  Perhaps their's a
decentralized approach as well.  Mythcommflag could still work WITHOUT
this feature, it's just something that can reinforce the accuracy of
commercial flagging in myth.  I'm also not sure about the legalities,
PC, etc that a methodology like this would have or Issac's stance on
the issue as I don't know if it's ever been thought of up to the
point.

Anyway, I'm not a developer, nor am I pleading or begging anyone to
develop this... I just think it sounds cool and if anyone has the
know-how or if a few developers think it'd be fun to work on it, I'd
love to help out any way I can.

So, what do all of you think?  I know it could be a large project...

Thanks!
Matt
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[mythtv-users] Adding a Hauppauge WinTV PVR to an existing MythTV box...

[Derek Conniffe]

Hi All again!

I'm really enjoying my MythTV box now - I've got a PVR350 and a Nexus-S card
in there working really well and providing lots of entertainment for the
whole family.

There are times when I'd really like to record two programs at the same time
and unless one is "normal" TV and one is Satellite I can't.

So I've picked up another Hauppauge card from Ebay...

It’s a "Hauppauge WinTV PVR" (but not a 250 or 350) - however it seems to be
BT878 based (hello BTTV) but also seems to have a MPEG2 encoder on-board.

Does anyone know how I can get this to work with an existing MythTV
installation?  I'm using my PVR350 for MPEG2 TV output (really good when
using a PVR350 and a Nexus-S!) but I'd guess that if I only use the BTTV
driver for the WinTV PVR card then the recordings wouldn't be MPEG2 by
default?

Is there some way to use the MPEG encoder on the Hauppauge WintTV PVR or is
there some way to record from the card and then store in MPEG2 format for
playback on the PVR350?

Many many thanks as always,

Derek

PS my lspci -v output for the my Hauppauge WinTV PVR card:

:01:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video
Capt
ure (rev 11)
Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc.: Unknown device 4500
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 23
Memory at f6afe000 (32-bit, prefetchable)
Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2

:01:0b.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio
Capture (r
ev 11)
Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc.: Unknown device 4500
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 23
Memory at f6aff000 (32-bit, prefetchable)
Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2

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Re: [mythtv-users] New Program Alerts?

[Jos Hoekstra]

Bruce Markey schreef:
This, and other text entry boxes in myth, uses MythRemoteLineEdit
which uses the number keys like the numbers on a cell phone for
text entry. "0" is "Operator" so zero is actually a choice with "9".
Press "9" and you will see "[wxyz90]". Press "9" five more times to
highlight "0" then SELECT (Enter) or just wait for it to time out.
MythTV is the only DVR system which allows you to use the number
pad of your remote control to type raw SQL into the scheduler from
the comfort of your sofa.
--  bjm
Hmmm, I was wondering: where is the delete-button? It isn't included in 
the .lircrc for a grey hauppage-remote from Jarod's how-to, which button 

and which key do I need to add to .lircrc to have a delete button?
Regards,
Jos Hoekstra
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Re: [mythtv-users] pcHDTV and ivtv

[John Patrick Poet]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, Kyle Rose wrote:

> Does anyone have a new combination of ivtv-0.{2,3}* and pcHDTV(-2.0?)
> that work together?  I've been using ivtv-0.2.0-rc3d and pcHDTV-1.6 for
> the last several months, and want to upgrade; but the tuner modules for
> the new versions (rc3i and 2.0) seem to be incompatible, at least as far
> as I can tell.
>
> FWIW, I'm willing to upgrade to DVB for pcHDTV.  Is this the way to go?
>
> Thanks,
> Kyle


My slave backend has a HD-2000 and a PVR-350 in it.  I am using the DVB
drivers for the HD-2000 and ivtv-0.2.0-rc3? for the PVR-350.

I had to rename the msp3400.ko which the HD-2000 drivers installed, so it
would pick it up from the ivtv driver.  No problem with the tuner.

I am using the DVB HD-2000 drivers from the CVS snapshot, but the 2.0
drivers probably work fine.

I did have to go in and manually edit mythconverg DB settings to get the DVB
stuff to work.  The DVB "scan" creates different CHANNEL entries from
zap2it.  After the DVB "scan" completed, I went in and added the information
that DVB needs to function, to the CHANNEL entries which I already had from
zap2it.  I then deleted the CHANNEL entries which DVB added.

John
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Re: [mythtv-users] DVB to DVD

[Nick Craig-Wood]

On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:16:52AM -0700, Eric Gilbert wrote:
> That was it, the new version produced absolutely in sync files that I
> have had no problems using with avidemux to convert to dvd's. I just
> went with the defaults and had no sync related issues.

Good!  I've found the latest version of Project X on my 2.6 GHz p4 to
be fast enough that I don't feel the need to experiment with avidemux.
There are some dlls for windows in the source to speed it up even more
and I had a brief play at compiling them for linux but gave up due to
lack of knowledge about java things.

> I did run into a weird issue where I ran out of java heap space ...
> but that is a question for another forum.

Yes Project X does use a lot of memory. 3-500 MB at times!

> Thanks again,

You are welcome!

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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport problem

[Michael J. Lynch]

Chris Petersen wrote:
upgrade nuvexport.  I incorrectly set it defaulting to "cutlist only" 
display, so you're seeing the one recording that has a cutlist.  The 
latest version defaults to displaying all files.

Now that you mention it, I do recall that the one showing up is the
only one with a cutlist.  I'll upgrade tonight.  Thanks.
--
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport

[Rick Ingersoll]

Well, perhaps that isn't my issue.  I tried to run the commands 
individually from the debug and they seemed to run ok, so What is it 
about running from nuvexport that could be the issue.  I searched the 
archives high and low, but nothing pointing to this issue.

Chris Petersen wrote:
Alright, I think it might be that I don't have enough disk space 
where it is writing the fifodir_whatever/vidout and audout.  Is there 
a way I can tell it to use a different path than /tmp/  and have it 
write somewhere I do have space?

how can you not have 8k available in /tmp?  fifos are TINY files.
Anyway, you need to have space available in /tmp for other things -- 
there's no better place for temporary files, so it's all hard-coded. 
Guess someday I could add a setting for it, but nothing like that on 
the todo list very soon.

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport problem

[Chris Petersen]

I have 1/2 dozen or so recorded programs and they show up in Myth's
view and watch recordings screens.  When I try to use nuvexport to
export to DVD (I did try other formats), when asked which recording I 
want to export, nuvexport is showing only one of my recordings.
upgrade nuvexport.  I incorrectly set it defaulting to "cutlist only" 
display, so you're seeing the one recording that has a cutlist.  The 
latest version defaults to displaying all files.

Either that, or edit your nuvexportrc to turn that feature off.
-Chris
All recordings are recorded in the same format, stored in the same
place, and do exist.  Any idea's about what might be going on?  The one 
recording that does show up does export ok.

Now that I think about, the one recording that is showing up is the only 
recording that was done as "manual recording" as opposed to scheduled 
via the program guide.


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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport

[Chris Petersen]

Alright, I think it might be that I don't have enough disk space where 
it is writing the fifodir_whatever/vidout and audout.  Is there a way I 
can tell it to use a different path than /tmp/  and have it write 
somewhere I do have space?
how can you not have 8k available in /tmp?  fifos are TINY files.
Anyway, you need to have space available in /tmp for other things -- 
there's no better place for temporary files, so it's all hard-coded. 
Guess someday I could add a setting for it, but nothing like that on the 
todo list very soon.

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

[Risto Treksler]

Hi,

downloaded todays CVS and reflagged
it detected and flagged an obviously false commercial of just 8 frames long

"white frames" like those in explosions and in scene transitions in Cold Case 
also trigger false positives every time



2005-04-11 14:31:23.170 Final Commercial Break Map
2005-04-11 14:31:23.170 ---

2005-04-11 14:31:23.170 d : 7639 (00:04:00.04) (14)
2005-04-11 14:31:23.171 d : 7646 (00:05:00.04) (14)
2005-04-11 14:31:23.171 d : 102549 (00:04:00.56) (58)
2005-04-11 14:31:23.171 d : 107739 (00:05:00.59) (51)
2005-04-11 14:31:23.171 ---
2















On Sunday 03 April 2005 03:56 pm, Chris Pinkham wrote:
> > I send this to you directly.  From the relevant portions I can see it
> > did detect the 12 second and ~0 second break again.  If I read it right,
> > that's at frame 18625 and then at 67576.  I am using the ALL detection
> > method with strict detection enabled.
> >
> > 2005-04-03 12:07:33.803   18625 : 4 (00:10:20.25) (620)
> > 2005-04-03 12:07:33.803   19014 : 5 (00:10:33.24) (633)
> >
> > 2005-04-03 12:07:33.804   67576 : 4 (00:37:32.16) (2252)
> > 2005-04-03 12:07:33.804   67586 : 5 (00:37:32.26) (2252)
>
> Thanks for the debug info (although I'm not sure the whole list wanted
> to see the mythcommflag.out.bz2 file). :)  This should be fixed in
> current CVS, can you update and reflag this show to see if it does it
> correctly now?
>
> When going from a block that looks like a commercial to a block that
> doesn't, I had a bug that was checking the min commercial break length
> against the end of the new block instead of the start of the block.
> This same bug caused both of these scenarios.  The bug was allowing these
> short commercial breaks to be flagged when they shouldn't have been.
>
> If you don't want to update to current CVS, you can try the 1-line patch
> here:
>
> http://cvs.mythtv.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/mythtv/libs/libmythtv/commercial_
>skip.cpp?r1=1.45&r2=1.46

-- 
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Elkhorn Lodge
Banff, Alberta, Canada
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythWeb Clock incorrect

[Devan Lippman]

Sorry everyone, wasted a lot of time on this, needed to reset
apache... hwclock should be UTC but you don't have to that as long as
the system knows thats not what you're doing when it goes to
read/write hwclock in the bootscripts

On Apr 11, 2005 1:18 PM, Asher Schaffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2005 9:42 AM, Chris Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > MythWeb appears to be confused about what time it is on my machine...
> > > its saying that its about 6 hours later than it is here in mountain
> > > time (-7:00).  Any ideas?  My sys and hwclock are both set to MDT.
> 
> Hmm, shouldn't the hwclock be set to UTC and you should have
> /etc/localtime symlinked to the correct timezone file (e.g.
> /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Mountain on gentoo).
> 
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[mythtv-users] Mythfrontend locks after 30 minutes on live TV

[Khanh Tran]

After about 30 minutes of live TV, Mythfrontend freezes.  I can exit
back to the menu and start watch live TV again, but that's annoying.
I've coped the log below, which keep repeating until I exit back to the
menu.  Any help is appreciated.  I'm using 0.16 compiled from source.

Thanks!

2005-04-11 14:28:33 ReadStringList timeout (quick).
Remote encoder not responding.
ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/local/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
QSocketDevice::writeBlock: Invalid socket
2005-04-11 14:28:34 Error writing stringlist
Remote encoder not responding.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Good TV Out (long -sorry)

[Bruce Markey]

Chris Martin wrote:
...
The live Tv quality on the Pundit-R is more than acceptable, providing
bob deinterlacing is used. Unfortunately using bob deinterlacing
casues the picture to get jittery and flickery with time, to the point
that after about 5 minutes it is unwatchable. Quickly pausing and
unpausing the picture resolves the problem but only for 5 minutes at
This is what I call a 'straddle' event. If there is no retrace
timing for the card, the frame buffer is updated at equal frame
intervals unaware of when the actual retraces will occur. If the
update and retrace are at almost the exact same time, the update
could happen just before or just after the retrace deadline. This
causes rapid jitter until they go out of sync again (pause would
accomplish this). Ironically, the more accurate the timing, the
longer these events last.
which point the flickeryness returns.  I've been advised by somebody
on the mailing list to use Open GL as this should provice VSync
support which will resolve the problem.  At the time I thought I might
not have open gl support, however the open gl picture transitions in
myth gallery worked fine so maybe I do.
Both OpenGL and DRM methods will get the retrace timing and can
avoid this problem.
--  bjm
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[mythtv-users] Sound control PVR350 help needed

[Patrick @ Mythtv]

I've setup my mythtvbox on FC2 and using the PVR350 tv-out to watch on my
tv-set. I've linked the sound from my prv350 to the line-in of my sound
card.
I hear the sound, but can't control it. The sound is controlled when i use
the alsmixer by the headphone channel. Both master and pcm are not working
with live tv.
Watching DVD or a movie with mythvideo is no problem and i can control the
sound.

How is it possible that the sound come through the headphone channel and can
i adjust it so the controls will work


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Re: [mythtv-users] Podcasting Idea

[Brad Templeton]

On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 10:14:08AM -0500, Dan Littlejohn wrote:
> Had this idea and thought I would float it out there for anyone who is
> ambitious.  I would like to work on it, but do not know when I might
> have time.
> 
> Anyway, I read an article the other day about how people with ipods
> are recording radio station  and other types of broadcasts and then
> loading them into their ipod to listen to later.  I have a large cd
> collection, etc, but I also have an hour commute each way and it is
> hard to keep new stuff in the deck.  What I was thinking is that you
> could use myth to record a local fm station broadcast, then skip the
> commercials before loading it into an ipod. (Maybe Chris Pinkham's
> code has an audio component?).  One of the stations I listen to has
> literally, 10 minutes of programing and 5 minutes of commercials for
> each 15 minute block.
> 
> Don't own an ipod yet, but would if I could do that.  Just an idea.

Unless you absolutely insist on having your local station, there are
a number of stations out there that stream directly in mp3 format, even
a few that stream in vorbis (which my player handles) and so you may
find it better just to record those with a stream recorder and then
sync them into your mp3 player.

And of course there are lots of amateur stations that stream in mp3
and these don't even have commercials for you to remove.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Good TV Out (long -sorry)

[Chris Martin]

On Apr 11, 2005 2:32 PM, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2005 2:10 PM, Chris Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I started playing with MythTv in January when I decided it would be a
> > fun project with which to learn Linux.  Knowing I'd be less likely to
> > give up on it if I had some money involved, I went out an bought the
> > following equipment:
> >
> > Asus Pundit-R
> > Celeron 2.4GHz
> > 512Mb DDR RAM
> > 200GB Maxtor SATA
> > PVR 350
> 
> Exactly the same as my setup, albeit minus my Nova-T card.
> 
> >
> > Having precisely zero Linux experience I went with FC3 and Jarod's
> > excellent guide as it seemed like the easiest solution. My aim was
> > (and still is) to create a combined frontend/backend that hooks up to
> > a standard PAL TV and can a) be used as a PVR and b) play films stored
> > as MPEG4.
> 
> Same reason here, along with finding a home for my ripped CDs and
> digital photos. I first tried FC3, but due to the ATI problems and
> some udev issues wihch I prob could have solved, I went with FC2 and
> am still using it.
> 
> >
> > Thanks both to Jarod's guide and the help from this mailing list I had
> > a usable system up with a couple of weeks and have been playing ever
> > since.  While I've been incredibley impressed by the features and
> > usability of MythTV, there's been one thing that I've never been able
> > to get quite right; namely TV OUT.  This has come as quite a surprise
> > to me, seeing as I have two options in this area with both the PVR 350
> > and the onboard graphics of the Pundit-R.  Here is what I've found so
> > far:
> >
> > PVR 350.
> > The quality of live tv on the PVR 350 is fantastic: I can't distingish
> > it from 'regular tv', although admittedly neither my signal nor my
> > television is particularly amazing. The problem, however, is the PVR
> > 350's ability (or lack of it) to play MPEG 4.  I initially tried the
> > framebuffer driver (mplayer -vo x11) but found this to be too slow and
> > so investigated using the ivtv driver with the command:
> >
> > mplayer -vo ivtv fileName
> >
> > which causes the video to be played, but not to be visible as it is
> > being displayed behind the X window currently in the PVR 350's
> > framebuffer.  Following the advice of somebody on this list I then
> > used the command:
> >
> > ivtvfbctrl /dev/fb1 -alpha 0; mplayer -vo ivtv fileName ; ivtvfbctrl
> > /dev/fb1 -alpha 255;
> >
> > which makes the video video visible (and play perfectly smoothly I
> > might add).  Unfortunately the sound is now well out of sync (I'd
> > estimate around  5 seconds), and no amount of -framedrops or --delays
> > will help the situation.   I've been at this stage for around a month
> > now and have not found any solution, except for a post by Chris
> > Kennedy on IVTV-devel which suggests that playing with ivtvfbctrl can
> > cause the 350's a/v sync to mess up.  My hope therefore is that if I'm
> > somehow able to configure my ststem so that I no longer need to change
> > the alpha then the sync issue may sort itself.  Until then, the PVR
> > 350 doesn't seem to be able to do what I want it to do.
> >
> > Pundit-R Tv Out.
> > To get the Pundit-R's TV out to work most people use the 3.12 ATI
> > driver and then a hex edit trick in order to enable TV out.
> > Unfortuatlely the 3.12 driver only works with XFree86 and therefore
> > not with Fedora which uses XOrg. Taking advice from soemone else on
> > the list I tried the hex edited file with the newer  8.8.25 driver
> > which does work with XOrg.  Amazingly it worked fine.
> 
> Not read that before - good tip!
> 
> >
> > The live Tv quality on the Pundit-R is more than acceptable, providing
> > bob deinterlacing is used. Unfortunately using bob deinterlacing
> > casues the picture to get jittery and flickery with time, to the point
> > that after about 5 minutes it is unwatchable. Quickly pausing and
> > unpausing the picture resolves the problem but only for 5 minutes at
> > which point the flickeryness returns.  I've been advised by somebody
> > on the mailing list to use Open GL as this should provice VSync
> > support which will resolve the problem.  At the time I thought I might
> > not have open gl support, however the open gl picture transitions in
> > myth gallery worked fine so maybe I do.
> >
> > Anyway there are still some avenues to explore but before I go any
> > further I thought I'd post this to the mailing list in the hope that
> > someone has my hardware (either the pundit-r or the 350) and has it
> > working as I envisaged it.
> 
> I have been in the same quandary since November. The PVR350's output
> is beautiful - but the current X framebuffer driver is not fast enough
> to play video that needs to be resized AIUI. ATI's supposed support
> for the 9100IGP TV-out (they stated on their site that all new cards
> having TV-out are supported) still seems to be non-existent. I filed a
> support ticket with ATI about this, but got nowhere (shock horror).
> 
> This 

Re: [mythtv-users] New Program Alerts?

[Brad Templeton]

On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:43:01AM +0100, James Smith wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Is there any way for MythTV to alert me when it sees a new program
> inserted into the database that matches certain criteria? For instance, if
> I (or my girlfriend, actually) wanted to watch programs about tigers, it
> would be good to be able to put the word "tiger" into a saved search, and
> then get an email or some kind of alert onscreen whenever new matches are
> found. Is there anything like this around already, or should I get my
> coding hat on?
> 
> cheers,
> -- 
> James Smith - [EMAIL PROTECTED]


While generally mythtv's own built in advanced queries are just fine for
long term keyword queries, the tvwish program can also do this:
http://www.templetons.com/brad/myth/tvwish.html

tvwish allows you to make generalized SQL queries (though it's more often
used for long wishlists) so it can do this.  It reports anything it queues up
on stdout.  It is normally run from the cron, so as a result the cron e-mails
you any programs it sets up to record.

If you prefer not to have the cron do that, you could trivially wrap it in
a script to mail you the output if there is any output (which is effectively
what the cron is doing anyway, so I don't bother.)


In this case you would add a line to the file like this.

Sql: title like '%tiger%' OR subtitle like '%tiger%' OR description like 
'%tiger%'

And it should do the trick.
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RE: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 displays OSD but not video - .17 apt-getupgrade

[John Harvey]

I believe this is caused by blt_fill code in the firmware crashing
occasionally. I was working on some changes and managed to get to a point
where this was very reproducible (though not every time).

In libs/libmythtv/videout_ivtv.cpp in the function ClearOSD() there is some
code that looks something like 
  if (version > 0x0)
{
 Clear using old method
} else
{
Clear using BLTFILL;
}

If you change this so it always uses the old method you might find it fixes
the problem. Easiest way is to just make the number being compared against
larger termporarily.
I spent ages looking at this and came to the conclusion that the firmware is
broken in some way or there is a horrible interaction with the dma code.

John


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Hart
> Sent: 11 April 2005 19:52
> To: Dave; Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 displays OSD but not video - .17 apt-
> getupgrade
> 
> Dave wrote:
> > On Feb 23, 2005 10:58 PM, Mark Matula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Mark Matula wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I've seen a lot of different issues with the 350 since folks have
> upgraded
> >>>but none of them exactly match what happened to my box.  I've search
> the
> >>>archives since the .17 release, but haven't wrapped my mind around a
> >>>solution.
> >>>
> >>>My 350 TV out was working fine with .16 installed on Debian unstable
> from
> >>>the .debs on
> http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/
> >>
> >>[. . .]
> >>
> >>>Before I do anything drastic, I was looking for input on how to
> troubleshoot
> >>>this.
> >>>- Upgrade ivtv?
> >>>- Un-reinstall the .17 debs?
> >>>- Uninstall .17 and try to roll back to .16?
> >>
> >>Turns out an ivtv driver update was in order.  I'm at version 0.2.0-rc3
> >>right now, and all seems well.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Mark Matula
> >>Mikey, you will be missed:
> >>http://eblo.ratula.net/mikey.html
> >>
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> >
> >
> > Hi Mark,
> >I'm in a similar situation as you - I was using IVTV .19, but after
> > upgrading Myth to .17, it appears I need to upgrade IVTV.
> >I tried upgrading to IVTV 0.2.0, but ran into major problems
> > (system freezes, etc).
> >Did you follow a specific set of instructions to do the IVTV upgrade?
> >Did you have any major issues/problems during the IVTV upgrade?
> >
> 
> Has anyone solved the myth 0.17 + ivtv 0.[23].* issues?  I still get:
> 
> Mar 11 19:06:53 leeloo kernel: ivtv: 1000 ms time out waiting for firmware
> Mar 11 19:06:53 leeloo kernel: ivtv: Failed api call 0x0015 with
> result 0xfff0
> Mar 11 19:06:53 leeloo kernel: ivtv: DEC: couldnt read clock
> 
> in the logs when the playback locks up (usually when seeking).  Sound is
> still often very deep (like a slow playback, but the speed seems right).
> 
> I haven't been getting any feedback on these problems from here of ivtv,
> is there another list I should try?
> 
> --Darren
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: MythTv and Camera: Initiating recording on some action

[John Williams]

On Apr 11, 2005 2:05 PM, Pancham Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> >Ok, what are you using the detect the RFID tag?  Assuming you have
> >linux drivers for the RFID reader you can probably pass a keyboard cmd
> >or maybe create a lirc loop back to initiate a record now command.
> 
> I am using RFID reader to detect the tags. Everything related to reader, 
> mythtv and camera is already set up. All we need to do now is initiate the 
> recording on some action. What is that 'record now' command that you are 
> talking about. Where I can read about creating the lirc loop back?
> 
> 
> >Interesting application for Mythtv. Are you trying to create a vision
> >system of sorts using Myth? This seems like a hard way to go. You can
> >use command line commands like
> 
> >cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/your recording.mpg to capture video without
> >myth. If this is in fact a vision system on an assembly line or
> >soemthing you could datetime stamp the file in the name you record
> >from command line, then there is little you have to do.
> >I'd be interested to hear more about your application though it does
> >seem a bit off topic if you go without using Myth. Email me directly
> >if you want to chat about it some.
> 
> I thought of doing the same (cat /dev/video0 > my.mpg), but the problem with 
> that is we don't want to get into the management of all the videos and then 
> playing them back. So, that is why I thought of using the MythTV. I am 
> currently using camera as a security camera which should record any 
> authorized/unauthorized RFID tag.
> 
> Also, getting back to what you have suggested, is there any way so that I can 
> playback the videos that I have recorded directly (from cat /dev/video0 
> >my.mpg) on MythTV? If that is not possible, is there any off-the-shelf video 
> players which can play the RAW video format?
> 
> Also, what needs to be done if I wanted to store the prerecorded videos into 
> the MythTV database, so that when I run MythTV it recognizes all those videos?

The record now command is press the R key while watching live TV. If
you are wanting a way to watch the videos and manage them then I guess
mythTV is better for you than developing a specific app for it. Or
using the cat command line.

Give pressing R in code a shot and let us know how it goes.

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[mythtv-users] DVD rip quality?

[Matthew K. Lee]

To anyone who can answer:

What is the difference between a perfect, excellent, good, and medium rip?

Thanks,

Matt
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythWeb Clock incorrect

[Asher Schaffer]

On Apr 11, 2005 9:42 AM, Chris Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > MythWeb appears to be confused about what time it is on my machine...
> > its saying that its about 6 hours later than it is here in mountain
> > time (-7:00).  Any ideas?  My sys and hwclock are both set to MDT.


Hmm, shouldn't the hwclock be set to UTC and you should have
/etc/localtime symlinked to the correct timezone file (e.g.
/usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Mountain on gentoo).

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[mythtv-users] Re: MythTv and Camera: Initiating recording on some action

[Pancham Gupta]

Hi,

>Ok, what are you using the detect the RFID tag?  Assuming you have
>linux drivers for the RFID reader you can probably pass a keyboard cmd
>or maybe create a lirc loop back to initiate a record now command.

I am using RFID reader to detect the tags. Everything related to reader, mythtv 
and camera is already set up. All we need to do now is initiate the recording 
on some action. What is that ‘record now’ command that you are talking about. 
Where I can read about creating the lirc loop back?


>Interesting application for Mythtv. Are you trying to create a vision
>system of sorts using Myth? This seems like a hard way to go. You can
>use command line commands like 

>cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/your recording.mpg to capture video without
>myth. If this is in fact a vision system on an assembly line or
>soemthing you could datetime stamp the file in the name you record
>from command line, then there is little you have to do.
>I'd be interested to hear more about your application though it does
>seem a bit off topic if you go without using Myth. Email me directly
>if you want to chat about it some.


I thought of doing the same (cat /dev/video0 > my.mpg), but the problem with 
that is we don’t want to get into the management of all the videos and then 
playing them back. So, that is why I thought of using the MythTV. I am 
currently using camera as a security camera which should record any 
authorized/unauthorized RFID tag. 

Also, getting back to what you have suggested, is there any way so that I can 
playback the videos that I have recorded directly (from cat /dev/video0 
>my.mpg) on MythTV? If that is not possible, is there any off-the-shelf video 
players which can play the RAW video format? 

Also, what needs to be done if I wanted to store the prerecorded videos into 
the MythTV database, so that when I run MythTV it recognizes all those videos? 


Thanks,
Pancham

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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 displays OSD but not video - .17 apt-get upgrade

[Darren Hart]

Dave wrote:
On Feb 23, 2005 10:58 PM, Mark Matula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Mark Matula wrote:

I've seen a lot of different issues with the 350 since folks have upgraded
but none of them exactly match what happened to my box.  I've search the
archives since the .17 release, but haven't wrapped my mind around a
solution.
My 350 TV out was working fine with .16 installed on Debian unstable from
the .debs on http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/
[. . .]
Before I do anything drastic, I was looking for input on how to troubleshoot
this.
- Upgrade ivtv?
- Un-reinstall the .17 debs?
- Uninstall .17 and try to roll back to .16?
Turns out an ivtv driver update was in order.  I'm at version 0.2.0-rc3
right now, and all seems well.
--
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Mikey, you will be missed:
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Hi Mark,
   I'm in a similar situation as you - I was using IVTV .19, but after
upgrading Myth to .17, it appears I need to upgrade IVTV.
   I tried upgrading to IVTV 0.2.0, but ran into major problems
(system freezes, etc).
   Did you follow a specific set of instructions to do the IVTV upgrade?
   Did you have any major issues/problems during the IVTV upgrade?
Has anyone solved the myth 0.17 + ivtv 0.[23].* issues?  I still get:
Mar 11 19:06:53 leeloo kernel: ivtv: 1000 ms time out waiting for firmware
Mar 11 19:06:53 leeloo kernel: ivtv: Failed api call 0x0015 with 
result 0xfff0
Mar 11 19:06:53 leeloo kernel: ivtv: DEC: couldnt read clock

in the logs when the playback locks up (usually when seeking).  Sound is 
still often very deep (like a slow playback, but the speed seems right).

I haven't been getting any feedback on these problems from here of ivtv, 
is there another list I should try?

--Darren
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[mythtv-users] nuvexport problem

[Michael J. Lynch]

System is Athlon-XP 3200+ running FC2 and using MythTV from CVS as
of last Friday.
I have 1/2 dozen or so recorded programs and they show up in Myth's
view and watch recordings screens.  When I try to use nuvexport to
export to DVD (I did try other formats), when asked which recording I 
want to export, nuvexport is showing only one of my recordings.

All recordings are recorded in the same format, stored in the same
place, and do exist.  Any idea's about what might be going on?  The one 
recording that does show up does export ok.

Now that I think about, the one recording that is showing up is the only 
recording that was done as "manual recording" as opposed to scheduled 
via the program guide.

--
Michael J. Lynch
What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about -- author unknown
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport

[Rick Ingersoll]

Alright, I think it might be that I don't have enough disk space where 
it is writing the fifodir_whatever/vidout and audout.  Is there a way I 
can tell it to use a different path than /tmp/  and have it write 
somewhere I do have space?

Chris Petersen wrote:
   I just loaded up nuvexport.  I'm trying to export some programs to 
DVD.  when I run it, I do all the selecting, but when it gets to the 
transcoding part, it runs for a while, but it ends up saying that it 
has done 0 out of however many frames.  This is after it runs for 
about 45 minutes.  there are no files in the exports directory.  Any 
help would be good.

Search the list archives, you'll find info about how to use --debug.
-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] gave up on the Epia

[Cecil Watson]

Hello,
AFAIK, there is no way you are going to be running on an EPIA without
building a kernel on your own, so having to compile in support for
temp monitoring and speed changes shouldn't be a big addition.
 

KnoppMyth R5A12.  Using the CD as a frontend takes about 50% CPU.  
Installing to hard drive and installing the XvMC-VLD debs uses about 13% 
CPU (personally tested on a MII w/ 1.2 GHz processor).  The next release 
will have MPlayer and Xine built w/ xxmc.

Regards,
Cecil
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Re: [mythtv-users] gave up on the Epia

[Asher Schaffer]

I agree it isn't the easiest thing to get working.  The first time I
did it, it took 4 days to get working, a lot of that was compile time
however.  The second time I did it (after I hosed one of the
partitions, entirely my fault), it only took about a day and a half,
this time almost only compile time, minimal troubleshooting.

There is the issue of getting everything just right, I'm running on an
M10k.  It shouldn't be that bad, I use the machine for myth, to serve
up a few webpages, and for bit torrent.  I actually have azureus
running on that machine, it is a huge memory hog, but the machine
still records and plays just fine.

AFAIK, there is no way you are going to be running on an EPIA without
building a kernel on your own, so having to compile in support for
temp monitoring and speed changes shouldn't be a big addition.

Maybe the EPIA isn't for the faint of heart, it does need HW decoding
inorder for it to be usable.  If you are building a HTPC, you should
get everything working before it is rolled out in production though,
even if it has more then enough power and you can get away with it,
otherwise you will find yourself tinkering with a production box and
end up frustrated cause you can't watch your shows.

--
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 500 static on both tuners

[Matt]

On Apr 11, 2005 12:47 PM, Garry Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do I determine which card and tuner correspond to /dev/videoX?
> Is there a command to verify this, or do I just assume the card
> directly below the AGP slot is /dev/video0 and count down from there?
> Searching the archives for IRQ sharing did not yield much. I tried
> booting with 'noacpi', but this did not seem to help. Any tips on
> forcing IRQs?
> 

One way to try this is looking at your dmesg output and seeing which
cards load.  They load for me in order.  0, 1, 2, 3

The other way should be:

ivtvctl -a -d /dev/video0 | more (then incrementing 1,2,3,x)... this
will show you which card is being registered.  PVR-500s show up as two
PVR-150s.

Matt
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR 500 static on both tuners

[Garry Cook]

On Apr 9, 2005 8:48 AM, Garry Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> {snip]
> > Since he said he's using my doc, chances are he's using ivtv from ATrpms, in
> > which case a simple addition to modules.conf may fix the issue:
> >
> > alias tuner tuner-ivtv
> 
> Yes, ATrpms ivtv, rev.3.2q, IIRC.
> Tried the alias line above, it didn't seem to work, so I gave the box
> a reboot. I've seen some posts stating that PVR 500s need a reboot
> after some changes in order for them to take effect. That's exactly
> what it needed, both tuners on the 500 (/dev/video2 & 3) now work
> great, video and sound.
> 
> However, my PVR 250 on /dev/video1 has lost it's audio. The 250 on
> /dev/video0 still works great. So, I'm going to troubleshoot that
> before adding the 500 to my Myth setup. I think I'll remove the tuner
> line and reload the ivtv module, reboot if necessary, just to be sure
> that something else is not clobbering my audio.
> 
> > But definitely take this to the ivtv list with the tac output, its often
> > fairly obvious from your log output what's going on. (Though another 500 
> > user
> > is having some issues that I can't see an explanation for in his logs)...
> 
> I was hoping not to have to join another list, I have enough trouble
> keeping up with this one, even in gmail. However, I will if necessary.
> I've been searching the archives of that list looking for a solution.

At this point I'm back to my original two tuners. I am about to try
again with the PVR 500. However, there is one thing that I am not sure
about.

How do I determine which card and tuner correspond to /dev/videoX?
Is there a command to verify this, or do I just assume the card
directly below the AGP slot is /dev/video0 and count down from there?
Searching the archives for IRQ sharing did not yield much. I tried
booting with 'noacpi', but this did not seem to help. Any tips on
forcing IRQs?

If I really knew for sure which tuner was having troubles, it might
make this problem easier to track down. Since I had both tuners on the
500 working at one point, while one of the 250s stopped working, I
believe that this is not a driver issue, but a problem with IRQ
resources. It's very similar to an issue that I had with just the two
250s, which I solved by moving one to a different slot.
 
-- Garry
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[mythtv-users] gave up on the Epia

[Micah Wedemeyer]

Hi all,

Well, I've finally given up on my Epia frontend/backend.  It worked reasonably
well for about 8 months and I got TV and DVD playback to finally work, but it
was a very flaky platform.  About a week ago, I was trying to rip a DVD while
watching TV at the same time, and it locked up (DMA bug is my best guess).  On
reboot, I found that there was something wrong with the superblock of the XFS
partition where all my recordings were stored.

To make a long story short, when I tried to repair things, I screwed up the
whole partition table and it no longer boots at all.

Anyways, I don't want to bore you any more with my sad tales, but I do want to
put out some warnings to potential Myth builders looking at the Epia platform.
Like me, you will doubtless plunge in anyway, but at least you'll have a litte
fore-warning.

(My) Issues with the Epia:
--
* Getting the Unichrome drivers to work could take a good amount of work.  It
may have gotten easier in the last few months, but I sure had a lot of trouble.
 If you're going for a trouble-free install of Linux/Myth, then the Epia is
probably a bad idea.  (Note: This is not a critique of the Unichrome drivers.  I
used them and loved them.  It just took a lot of effort to get everything
working.)

* The Epia has a known issue with DMA.  Check some of the postings at
forums.viaarena.com  I never had a problem when recording TV, but I definitely
had a problem when transferring files over the LAN.  If I tried to scp a file
from my desktop to the Myth box, it would lock up hard in about 5 seconds.  So,
if you're hoping to use your Myth box as a media server (like I was), then Epia
is definitely a bad idea.  Again, this is personal experience backed up by
others on the viaarena forums.  YMMV

* Many of the Epia MII boards have a bad PCMCIA slot (at least under Linux).
When I plugged in my wireless card, dmesg would say that the slot refused to
respond to requests to apply power to the card.  I was able to find a workaround
by using Linuxant's driverloader, but it was still a big hassle.

* Getting the on-board temperature sensors and dynamic CPU clocking to work will
take a kernel-recompile.  At least it did the last time I checked.  So, if you
want the clock frequency to dynamically adjust to CPU load and/or temp, get
ready for some work.

* The slow speed leaves little headroom for mistakes and halfway kludges.  By
this I mean: with a fast system, you don't have to get everything working
perfectly.  Who cares about hardware decoding when you've got 2+ Ghz and
software decoding barely registers on the CPU?  I have a lot of respect for the
people running the Epia ME6000s.  If they can't get hardware decoding to work,
then they're pretty much SOL.  Besides, even if everything works, working with a
slow machine can be quite painful.  Try compiling a kernel 10 times on one of
these things and you'll see what I mean.
---

I guess my bottom line here is that getting an Epia/Linux system up and running
can be a lot of work.  Plus, in some cases (like the DMA issue), you may never
find a solution.  I finally got mine to work, but it was never 100%, and I was
too afraid of screwing up what I had in order to tweak it more.  So, if you're
like me, and you just want a Myth box that works, take my advice and skip the
Epia.

I know a lot of people will disagree with me, and please feel free to voice your
opinions.  I just wanted to play devil's advocate for all the people out there
that are eyeing the Epia as their Myth platform.  They need to know that it will
not be a cakewalk in order to get it set up.

Now, let's just see if I sing this same tune after I've tried putting together a
Myth box based around a AMD Sempron and an nForce-3 150 motherboard.

Micah
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[mythtv-users] $25 tuner card with remote

[John Kuhn]

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=7130-TV&sourceid=qIpmQlqv2QAGAlJopJeX
does anyone have experience with this chipset? will it work under linux? 
i'm in need of a cheapo tuner and wondering if i'll be pulling my hair 
out getting this working..

--John
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Re: [mythtv-users] New Program Alerts? (more than one way to skin a cat)

[James Smith]

Thanks for the replies everyone! It seems there are indeed many ways to do
what I want, which is great! Email alerts aren't important at all, so I
think a combination of your suggestions will do exactly what I want!

Just goes to show how awesome MythTV is :)

cheers,
-- 
James Smith - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [mythtv-users] DVD sing xine on PVR-350 TV out?

[Patrick @ Mythtv]

Too bad there is no alternative for playing DVD with the PVR350 output.
I've tried mplayer with ivtv, but did not work for me.

This is for me the only remaing issue. 

> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens stephen
> Verzonden: maandag 11 april 2005 2:47
> Aan: Discussion about mythtv
> Onderwerp: Re: [mythtv-users] DVD sing xine on PVR-350 TV out?
> 
> Patrick @ Mythtv wrote:
> 
> > Your command works much better.
> > 
> > xine -f -I -V xshm --audio-driver alsa --no-logo --no-splash dvd://
> > 
> > SVCD files a playing very well. Better than mplayer, 
> because the sound 
> > is out of sync.
> > But DVD, unfortunally not for 100% on my pc. Could this be 
> a processor 
> > problem, I'm using a 1 ghz P3.
> > 
> > patrick
> > 
> 
> i'm using a P3/733 with 384 MB ram.  it was playing rather 
> nicely for the first few DVDs i tried, but i've been noticing 
> that it is quite jerky on others.  seems that fullscreen 
> content is more jerky than widescreen (more motion/action for 
> decoding?).  too bad xine doesn't make use of the 350's decoder ...
> 
> stephen
> 
> 

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Re: [mythtv-users] New Program Alerts?

[Bruce Markey]

Mathew Mrosko wrote:
On Monday 11 April 2005 05:53 am, Marcel Meier wrote:

(program.title LIKE "%Japan%"
OR program.subtitle LIKE "%Japan%"
OR program.description LIKE "%Japan%") AND
program.previouslyshown = 0

Is there something I'm missing here... 
A couple things actually =). You don't have to type all this in by
yourself. He actually got this by choosing "Match in any descriptive
field" and "New episodes only". When you click "Add..." for new
episodes, the "0" is already included in the example.
 I cannot type a 0 in... The number keys 
put in parts of regular expressions like ascii values, number values, etc.  
How do I insert a 0?
This, and other text entry boxes in myth, uses MythRemoteLineEdit
which uses the number keys like the numbers on a cell phone for
text entry. "0" is "Operator" so zero is actually a choice with "9".
Press "9" and you will see "[wxyz90]". Press "9" five more times to
highlight "0" then SELECT (Enter) or just wait for it to time out.
MythTV is the only DVR system which allows you to use the number
pad of your remote control to type raw SQL into the scheduler from
the comfort of your sofa.
--  bjm
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythWeb Clock incorrect

[Chris Petersen]

MythWeb appears to be confused about what time it is on my machine... 
its saying that its about 6 hours later than it is here in mountain
time (-7:00).  Any ideas?  My sys and hwclock are both set to MDT.
Dunno.  it's reporting the time directly from php, so maybe there's a 
misconfigured time setting for php (though I've never had a problem with 
it).

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] New Program Alerts? (more than one way to skin a cat)

[Bruce Markey]

James Smith wrote:
Is there any way for MythTV to alert me when it sees a new program
inserted into the database that matches certain criteria? For instance, if
I (or my girlfriend, actually) wanted to watch programs about tigers, it
would be good to be able to put the word "tiger" into a saved search, and
then get an email or some kind of alert onscreen whenever new matches are
found. Is there anything like this around already, or should I get my
coding hat on?
- There is nothing to send email but if you record the shows, the
entry on the playlist that you have it and can watch it anytime
should be ample notification =).
- Go to Schedule Recordings->Search Words->Keywords and add "tigers"
("tiger" would also match The Masters golf champion). Each time you
go back to this page and choose "tigers" it will show you the matches
in your current listings. This would be your "onscreen" notification.
Hint: while viewing results for any keyword, you can used the PREVVIEW
and NEXTVIEW keys (Home and End by default) to cycle through all of
your keywords without going back to the popup.
- You can set a keyword record rule from Search Words->Keywords by
pressing "M"enu and click the "Record" button. This will give you
a recording options page with the title "tigers (Keyword Search)".
- If you've set a record rule, Go to the Manage Recordings->Set
Priorities. "tigers (Keyword Search)" will be in the list. If it
is white and says (Recording 0 of 0) below the box then there are
no upcoming matches. If it is green and says (Recording 1 of 1)
then there is a new match coming up. Press UPCOMING ("O") to see
the list of matches. This is also an on-screen notification.
- Looking at the Upcoming Recording page would also be an on-screen
notification.
- Go to Schedule Recordings->Search Lists->New Titles. This selects
everything that is in your current listings that doesn't match any
title that has been in your listings before. This includes movies
which haven't been shown before (or at least not in the past year
or since you started running myth), new series that are about to
start or any new specials. This will find many more interesting
things than just tigers and is worth checking every few days. Pressing
the view keys here cycles through Movies, Series, Specials and All.
- If you wanted to add email notification you would probably want
to add something at the end of the daily task to update the listings
to use the keywords from the keyword table and format the output of
the queries but I don't think this would turn out to be all that useful.
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[mythtv-users] Re: Downgrade mythtv via apt-get (from bleeding cvs)

[Gabe Rubin]

Answering my own question here:

> I am looking to see how to painlessly
> downgrade.  I have tried apt-get install mythtv-suite=0.17 and it said
> I had the latest package, so I don't think that is the trick.  I know,
> this is not the best way to maintain a system and keep it stable, but
> just hoping someone may have a hand for me.
> 

The easiest way seemed to be apt-get remove mythtv which removed
almost the whole suite.  I cleaned up what remaining theme rpms were
still there and then reinstalled mythtv-suite, so it worked.  However,
I am curious what the bugs were from and why I get those errors in my
log


> Apr 11 12:24:28 localhost kernel: ivtv: DEC: couldnt read clock
> Apr 11 12:24:38 localhost kernel: ivtv: 1000 ms time out waiting for firmware
> Apr 11 12:24:38 localhost kernel: ivtv: Failed api call 0x0015
> with result 0xfff0
> Apr 11 12:24:38 localhost kernel: ivtv: DEC: couldnt read clock
> Apr 11 12:24:48 localhost kernel: ivtv: 1000 ms time out waiting for firmware
> Apr 11 12:24:48 localhost kernel: ivtv: Failed api call 0x0015
> with result 0xfff0
> Apr 11 12:24:48 localhost kernel: ivtv: DEC: couldnt read clock
> Apr 11 12:24:58 localhost kernel: ivtv: 1000 ms time out waiting for firmware
> Apr 11 12:24:58 localhost kernel: ivtv: Failed api call 0x0015
> with result 0xfff0
> Apr 11 12:24:58 localhost kernel: ivtv: DEC: couldnt read clock
>
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[mythtv-users] MythWeb Clock incorrect

[Devan Lippman]

MythWeb appears to be confused about what time it is on my machine... 
its saying that its about 6 hours later than it is here in mountain
time (-7:00).  Any ideas?  My sys and hwclock are both set to MDT.

-- 
Thanks,
Devan Lippman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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[mythtv-users] Downgrade mythtv via apt-get (from bleeding cvs)

[Gabe Rubin]

Hi all,

Last night I upgraded my system to bleeding via apt-get to get a
little preview of what's to come from the next release.  Now my myth
system is very unstable.  The first thing I did was downgrade ivtv and
the problems still persist, leading me to believe that it is a
problkem with the cvs version.  I am looking to see how to painlessly
downgrade.  I have tried apt-get install mythtv-suite=0.17 and it said
I had the latest package, so I don't think that is the trick.  I know,
this is not the best way to maintain a system and keep it stable, but
just hoping someone may have a hand for me.

BTW, this is what I get in my /var/log/messages when the picture
freezes on my frontend (it is a combined BE/FE)

Apr 11 12:24:28 localhost kernel: ivtv: DEC: couldnt read clock
Apr 11 12:24:38 localhost kernel: ivtv: 1000 ms time out waiting for firmware
Apr 11 12:24:38 localhost kernel: ivtv: Failed api call 0x0015
with result 0xfff0
Apr 11 12:24:38 localhost kernel: ivtv: DEC: couldnt read clock
Apr 11 12:24:48 localhost kernel: ivtv: 1000 ms time out waiting for firmware
Apr 11 12:24:48 localhost kernel: ivtv: Failed api call 0x0015
with result 0xfff0
Apr 11 12:24:48 localhost kernel: ivtv: DEC: couldnt read clock
Apr 11 12:24:58 localhost kernel: ivtv: 1000 ms time out waiting for firmware
Apr 11 12:24:58 localhost kernel: ivtv: Failed api call 0x0015
with result 0xfff0
Apr 11 12:24:58 localhost kernel: ivtv: DEC: couldnt read clock
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport

[Chris Petersen]

   I just loaded up nuvexport.  I'm trying to export some programs to 
DVD.  when I run it, I do all the selecting, but when it gets to the 
transcoding part, it runs for a while, but it ends up saying that it has 
done 0 out of however many frames.  This is after it runs for about 45 
minutes.  there are no files in the exports directory.  Any help would 
be good.
Search the list archives, you'll find info about how to use --debug.
-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Cable Co. QAM via pcHDTV HD3000 vs. STB andFirewire

[Byron Poland]

On Apr 11, 2005 8:18 AM, Marc Tousignant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron Poland
> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:57 PM
> To: sean darcy
> Cc: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Cable Co. QAM via pcHDTV HD3000 vs. STB
> andFirewire
> 
> --SNIP--
> 
> getting them into mythtv is another issue, as channel scanning didn't
> work for me.  there is a tread about tuning QAM subchannels in the
> archive that has some insight into that.  Also check out the pchdtv
> forums.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Ya I started that thread.. You can read I here
> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/122101
> 
> If you read the whole thread you eventually find out that your cable company
> is not providing the PSIP data for the channels. The channel scan in myth
> uses this data to create the channels. You get a frequency lock but without
> the PSIP data you myth can't tell there is a channel there. This is why you
> get the frequencies in your scans but says it can not tune the channel or
> timed out while tuning.
> 
> Marc
> 
> 

Well I'm still not having much luck tuning QAM channels.  so I tried
giving Comcast a call and asking for a Motorola 6200 with firewire
enabled.  It was if I was talking a different language.  The CSR
wanted to know what I wanted to hook up with it, I said my tv, and a
computer.  She said they didn't support usb connections yet.  I said I
know that, I want firewire, and that I could show here the FCC docs
where they have to provide it to me.  After putting me on hold she
came back and said that they don't have boxes with firewire enabled. 
This sounds like BS to me as we are pretty close to Comcast's
headquarters, and are often a proving ground for new tech (on demand
and the comcast pvr box for example).

Anyone have any insight on how to deal with the cable co. to get a firewire box?

I know there is some talk in the archives about the FCC site with the
terms, but how do you communicate this to the cable co?

Thanks.
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Re: [mythtv-users] DVB to DVD

[Eric Gilbert]

Just to finish this thread up...

Thanks Nick!

On Apr 8, 2005 11:02 AM, Eric Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 8, 2005 10:33 AM, Nick Craig-Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 09:20:03AM -0700, Eric Gilbert wrote:
> > > I've been trying to use Project X with MPEG TS to "fix" my DVB
> > > recordings for DVD buring from the HD3000, and to strip out the
> > > extraneous streams, but the A/V Sync gets totally out of wack after 20
> > > minutes or so on a noisy recording.  What settings are you using?
> >
> > I used pretty much the default settings.  I've tried fill audio gap
> > with blank and previous sector.  Previous sector is probably the best.
> > Project X has never given me out of sync audio and video.
> >
> > I use it in demux mode, then mplex the two streams together for DVD.
> >
> > Where to your DVB recordings come from?  I capture mine in the UK with
> > a Nova-t card.
> 
> I'm using the pcHDTV 3000 with the DVB drivers from linux-tv cvs on
> 2/20 for OTA HDTV in Berkeley, California.
> 
> > I also tried the latest version 0.82.1.00 which is a lot faster at
> > editing so maybe try that too?  Its on sourceforge now
> >
> >   http://sourceforge.net/projects/project-x
> 
> I've been using the version from doom9 .. I didn't realize project-x
> was on sourceforge...
> 
> Doh!
> 
> Thanks for the clue stick, I'll post back my findings.

That was it, the new version produced absolutely in sync files that I
have had no problems using with avidemux to convert to dvd's. I just
went with the defaults and had no sync related issues.

 I did run into a weird issue where I ran out of java heap space ...
but that is a question for another forum.

Thanks again,
Eric
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv: mythmusiv (0.17) compile fault .. will no-one reply?

[Byron Poland]

On Apr 11, 2005 12:12 PM, Colin Smillie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2005 12:40 AM, Bernard Mentink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I am having trouble compiling *mythmusic* (ver 0.17) on my laptop (which
> I> am using as a mythfrontend). The same version compiles fine on my main
> >*Mythtv* server.
> 
> I would check the versions you have of cdparanoia and the dev package
> on both machines.
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I saw a post to the commit list that mentioned a compile fix for
mythmusic, maybe try the latest cvs?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv: mythmusiv (0.17) compile fault .. will no-one reply?

[Colin Smillie]

On Apr 11, 2005 12:40 AM, Bernard Mentink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am having trouble compiling *mythmusic* (ver 0.17) on my laptop (which
I> am using as a mythfrontend). The same version compiles fine on my main
>*Mythtv* server.

I would check the versions you have of cdparanoia and the dev package
on both machines.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: apt CVS20050407 playback problem!

[Tom Hughes]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Robin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am using an nVidia FX5600 with 6629 drivers.
> 
> I did see something in the verbose startup of mythfrontend that I
> don't remember seeing before I think it was "using SGI OpenGL"
> In my nvidia-settings OpenGL vsync is turned off.
> 
> Were you able to fix it Tom?

No. I went back to the 0.17 build.

Tom

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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: apt CVS20050407 playback problem!

[Robin Smith]

I am using an nVidia FX5600 with 6629 drivers.

I did see something in the verbose startup of mythfrontend that I
don't remember seeing before I think it was "using SGI OpenGL"
In my nvidia-settings OpenGL vsync is turned off.

Were you able to fix it Tom? 

Robin


On Apr 11, 2005 2:08 AM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Robin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Well after a series of somewhat disconcerting "force versions" through
> > synaptic, I was able to run screaming from the latest CVS packages and
> > get things back to normal.
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas why my video/audio went wacky in the CVS packages?
> 
> Sounds like the same problem that I had. Apparently it's because
> OpenGL vsync support has been turned on in those builds and it doesn't
> work on some systems.
> 
> What graphics card are you using?
> 
> Tom
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[mythtv-users] nuvexport

[Rick Ingersoll]

Hi guys,
   I just loaded up nuvexport.  I'm trying to export some programs to 
DVD.  when I run it, I do all the selecting, but when it gets to the 
transcoding part, it runs for a while, but it ends up saying that it has 
done 0 out of however many frames.  This is after it runs for about 45 
minutes.  there are no files in the exports directory.  Any help would 
be good.

Rick
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[mythtv-users] Chaintech AV-710 walkthrough

[Larry Symms]

http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4132&highlight= 


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Re: [mythtv-users] multiple capture cards and sound?

[Jay R. Ashworth]

On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 10:28:02AM -0400, Larry K wrote:
>OK.  I just stumbled acroos a post that suggested the need for a sound
>card  for  each capture card, and I figured I better find out before I
>get that 2nd capture card.

And to clarify one more level (since I find I didn't before), that *is*
true if you're using frame-grabber cards instead of hardware-MPEG
cards, since those do *not* capture audio, and Myth has to do it
itself, though a sound card.

Given the price of HMPEG cards these days, that solution is widely
regarded as not worth bothering with, unless you're *really* short of
cash, and have all the parts laying around.

As HMPEG cards get cheaper and cheaper, it will become not worth
bothering with, period.

Cheers,
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[mythtv-users] LCD monitors that support native 720p?

[Marc Christensen]

Hi all,
I ended up taking the ProView PL576Ws widescreen monitor back since it
lacked the ability to display native 720p:
http://blog.mecworks.com/articles/2005/04/07/proview-pl576ws/
http://blog.mecworks.com/articles/2005/04/09/return-pl576ws-new-wrt54g/
So, the whole point is to get a monitor that will simultaneous display
what is sent to the projector either through a display splitter or my
nVidia 5700LE dual out.  My intent would be to not set up dual-head and
display the same output on both monitors
My projector is native 720p so I'm looking for an LCD that will do that.
Does anyone have any recommendations?  I would prefer widescreen
however, the ProView PL576Ws had the perfect price: $229.00 USD.  I
doubt I'll find another widescreen LCD display that does 720p for that
cheap so, 4x3 aspect ratio is fine.
Any recommendations?
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[mythtv-users] Podcasting Idea

[Dan Littlejohn]

Had this idea and thought I would float it out there for anyone who is
ambitious.  I would like to work on it, but do not know when I might
have time.

Anyway, I read an article the other day about how people with ipods
are recording radio station  and other types of broadcasts and then
loading them into their ipod to listen to later.  I have a large cd
collection, etc, but I also have an hour commute each way and it is
hard to keep new stuff in the deck.  What I was thinking is that you
could use myth to record a local fm station broadcast, then skip the
commercials before loading it into an ipod. (Maybe Chris Pinkham's
code has an audio component?).  One of the stations I listen to has
literally, 10 minutes of programing and 5 minutes of commercials for
each 15 minute block.

Don't own an ipod yet, but would if I could do that.  Just an idea.

Dan
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Re: [mythtv-users] Audio - one channel doesn't play sounds

[Graham Dunn]

On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 10:48:19AM -0400, Claude Boucher wrote:
> 
> I use the on-board audio of my MoBo (an Asus A7N8X-VM/400) which uses 
> the snd-intel8x0 driver with the following configuration in 
> /etc/modprobe.conf
> 
> - CODE -
> [...]
> alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
> [...]
> options snd-card-0 index=0
> install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && 
> /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
> remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; 
> /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
> - CODE -

I had the same problem with my onboard sound and snd-intel8x0 under
alsa. Only one channel would play back.

> What should be my next troubleshooting steps ?

My troubleshooting step consisted of purchasing an inexpensive sound
blaster. Problem solved.

I really think there's something off with that driver on some onboard
sound cards.

Graham
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Re: [mythtv-users] New Program Alerts?

[Mathew Mrosko]

On Monday 11 April 2005 05:53 am, Marcel Meier wrote:

> (program.title LIKE "%Japan%"
>  OR program.subtitle LIKE "%Japan%"
>  OR program.description LIKE "%Japan%") AND
> program.previouslyshown = 0

Is there something I'm missing here... I cannot type a 0 in... The number keys 
put in parts of regular expressions like ascii values, number values, etc.  
How do I insert a 0?

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Re: [mythtv-users] 18 release timing

[Lane Schwartz]

On Apr 9, 2005 9:27 AM, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> Just wondering what the timing will be on the 18 release?
> When would the RPM's be out?  How long does that typically take after
> the release?
> 
> What new and exciting features can MythTV users expect to see moving
> from 17 to 18?

FYI... I just saw this in the -dev archives:

"  Apr 10, 2005, 11:42 PM 
Delaying 0.18 slightly...
...just for a few days - I had to do non-myth stuff today, so I'm going to
push back the release a couple days. Current target's Tuesday night, but
that'll depend on me having time tomorrow night as well.

Isaac"

Cheers,
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[mythtv-users] Audio - one channel doesn't play sounds

[Claude Boucher]

I have the wierdest audio problem with my fresh install of MythTV 0.17 
(FC3, latest 2.6.10 kernel, installed using Jarod's howto and updated 
with ATrpms).

My analog cable is connected to a PVR-250 through a coax cable and the 
quality is good for all 42 or so channels, except for one channel where 
I get video, but no sound at all.

It's wierd, because, I get sound on this channel on another TV connected 
directly to the coax and on my cable box. The card is probably not the 
culprit because I pulled the PVR-250 from my Myth box and I've put it in 
my Windoze box, where I get sound on this channel.

I don't know if it is relevant, but the channel (TV5) primarly airs 
programs from France which are transcoded to NTSC before they are 
broadcast on my Canadian cable system.

I use the on-board audio of my MoBo (an Asus A7N8X-VM/400) which uses 
the snd-intel8x0 driver with the following configuration in 
/etc/modprobe.conf

- CODE -
[...]
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
[...]
options snd-card-0 index=0
install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && 
/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; 
/sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
- CODE -

What should be my next troubleshooting steps ?
Thanks in advance,
Claude
PS: I searched the list before posting and I found two threads with a 
similar problem (one in December 2004 and the other last February). but 
there were no answers.

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Re: [mythtv-users] DVD sing xine on PVR-350 TV out?

[Gary M]

On Apr 10, 2005 8:02 AM, Bob Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:xine -V xsh -p -f -g -s dvdThis isn't using the PVR-350's decoder so the computer has to do all thework.
Where do you get the sound from? The soundcard or through the PVR-350?
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Re: [mythtv-users] multiple capture cards and sound?

[Jay R. Ashworth]

On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:58:52AM -0400, Larry K wrote:
>I  had  been  thinking about getting another capture card (I have only
>one  now).   Then,  it  occurred  to  me that I may have an issue with
>sound.
>I  am  running  a  Hauppauge  PVR-250 and I'm using my MoBo's on-board
>sound.If  I pick up another PVR-250, do I also have to buy a sound
>card to pair with it?

FAQ!  FAQ!!  :-)

If your capture cards are Hardware-MPEG, like the Hauppauge, and I'm
*pretty* certain the AVer, Yuan, and the new Plextor external, then the
audio is being embedded in the capture stream, and you are *not* using
your onboard audio for recording, only for playback.

Adding extra cards, therefore, is no problem.

Snapstream has a demo box with 5 PVR-500's in it, that can record 10
shows simultaneously.

Cheers,
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Re: [mythtv-users] Lost most recordings, including actual files

[Peter Dash]

> 
> There is a way to rectify this (although you've last all the show info
> already), I remember running something at the command line but can't
> remember what sorry.

In the contrib directory there's a script, myth.rebuilddatabase.pl,
that will (quoting from the script):

## Here is what this program is supposed to do.
## It first scans through your myth database and displays all shows listed
## in the recorded table.
## It will then traverse your myth directory (set with --dir /YOURMYTHDIR) and
## find all your .nuv files and check them against the database to make sure
## they have an entry.  If no entry exists, you will be prompted for the title
## and subtitle of the recording and a record will be created.
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