Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone with working DVB-S in Australia ?
Hamish Moffatt wrote: If you mean pre-digital over satellite, that makes sense (it's still digital). Best not call this analogue, because it isn't. If you mean pre-digital over cable, that's analogue and a DVB-S card won't help at all. They use a funky analogue scrambling method called Newscrypt. Hi Hamish, Thanks for the clarification. I'm interested in any success stories with DVB-S in Australia. Personally I'd be using Austar rather than Foxtel - but I'd still like hear from anyone with MythTV experience of Pay TV over satellite in Australia. Cheers, Damien. -- Now listening to - Pentagram / First Daze Here (The Vintage Collection) / Last Days Here signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone with working DVB-S in Australia ?
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 12:32:04PM +1100, Damien Whyte wrote: > So if anybody on the list is currently using DVB-S with Austar or Foxtel > "analogue" (old pre-digital service) I'd appreciate any recommendations > you could give on what DVB-S card to use as well as CAM firmware > revisions etc. If you mean pre-digital over satellite, that makes sense (it's still digital). Best not call this analogue, because it isn't. If you mean pre-digital over cable, that's analogue and a DVB-S card won't help at all. They use a funky analogue scrambling method called Newscrypt. Confused, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone with working DVB-S in Australia ?
I have read about said Foxtel PVR in either a PC mag, or the T3 magazine. Its great, if you want to be stuck with Fox's crappy solution. These goons can't even get the time difference right across the states. In QLD I have to add an hour to what the Foxtel magazine says. Or is that subtract an hour??? On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:20:32 +1100, Rob Hillis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Damien Whyte wrote: > > > As an aside, my understanding of the current Pay TV situation in > > Australia is that Austar uses, and will continue to use Irdeto2 > > encryption - for which CAMs are available. I think the "analogue" > > Foxtel service also uses Irdeto encryption (not sure if it's Irdeto 1 > > or 2 at the moment). However as a previous poster mentioned, Foxtel > > Digital has moved to a different encryption scheme for which no CAMs > > will be available. > > Based on that info, I did a little digging through Google, but to > limited avail. I *did* see mention that both Austel and Foxtel have > been experimenting with DoS attacks that seem to make the CAM module > lock up. Nasty (if it's true) > > > Interestingly though, I understand that Foxtel are about to release a > > PVR for use with their Pay TV service. Seems a little monopolistic > > doesn't it ? > > With Tel$tra being one of the main owners of Foxtel, does this *really* > surprise you? > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > -- GMAIL is 'da bomb babyYEAH I have GMail invites, if you want one, email me direct. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone with working DVB-S in Australia ?
Damien Whyte wrote: As an aside, my understanding of the current Pay TV situation in Australia is that Austar uses, and will continue to use Irdeto2 encryption - for which CAMs are available. I think the "analogue" Foxtel service also uses Irdeto encryption (not sure if it's Irdeto 1 or 2 at the moment). However as a previous poster mentioned, Foxtel Digital has moved to a different encryption scheme for which no CAMs will be available. Based on that info, I did a little digging through Google, but to limited avail. I *did* see mention that both Austel and Foxtel have been experimenting with DoS attacks that seem to make the CAM module lock up. Nasty (if it's true) Interestingly though, I understand that Foxtel are about to release a PVR for use with their Pay TV service. Seems a little monopolistic doesn't it ? With Tel$tra being one of the main owners of Foxtel, does this *really* surprise you? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone with working DVB-S in Australia ?
Rob Hillis wrote: My understanding is that with Foxtel analogue, a DVB-S card with the right CAM module and the smartcard, Myth will quite happily work. Last I heard, Foxtel digital uses a different encoding method for which an appropriate CAM module is not yet available. As for the orginal poster, I don't know what hardware is required to receive Foxtel analogue. I have heard of people having success with it. Hey all, I just wanted to clarify a few things. I'm a current Austar Pay TV subscriber and would like to use a DVB-S card in my HTPC to digitally capture the Austar signal rather than use analogue inputs and an IR blaster etc. That means I need a DVB-S card and an appropriate CAM to plug my Austar smartcard into. The tricky thing is to get a card that will support an appropriate CAM with an appropriate firmware version that will work with the DVB-S feed. So if anybody on the list is currently using DVB-S with Austar or Foxtel "analogue" (old pre-digital service) I'd appreciate any recommendations you could give on what DVB-S card to use as well as CAM firmware revisions etc. As an aside, my understanding of the current Pay TV situation in Australia is that Austar uses, and will continue to use Irdeto2 encryption - for which CAMs are available. I think the "analogue" Foxtel service also uses Irdeto encryption (not sure if it's Irdeto 1 or 2 at the moment). However as a previous poster mentioned, Foxtel Digital has moved to a different encryption scheme for which no CAMs will be available. Interestingly though, I understand that Foxtel are about to release a PVR for use with their Pay TV service. Seems a little monopolistic doesn't it ? Thanks, Damien. -- Now listening to - The Doors / Bright Midnight : Live In America / Light My Fire signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone with working DVB-S in Australia ?
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rob Hillis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Whyte wrote: > > > I think it can be done, but you need a beefy box to crack the foxtel > > encoding, is the story I was told. I don't know much about it, I just > > wish Foxtel gave us a legal way to record the video in MythTV, without > > having to do IR blasters and the like. I always miss the discovery > > channel shows. > > My understanding is that with Foxtel analogue, a DVB-S card with the > right CAM module and the smartcard, Myth will quite happily work. Last > I heard, Foxtel digital uses a different encoding method for which an > appropriate CAM module is not yet available. Foxtel is a Murdoch operation isn't it? In which case it is probably using the same encryption as Sky in the UK and they've always refused to release CAM modules for that. Tom -- Tom Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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True, so very true. But to use my PC to record the DVB-S stream, I would need to decode/crack it, which would be seen as illegal I am sure. That is my understanding of how to get Foxtel via the PC anyway. If there is a different way, let me know, becuase I pay for Foxtel, and would love to record it on my Myth box. On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:35:02 +, Andy Whitworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:24:00 +1000, David Whyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey, nice surname :P > > > > First, I don't think it is legal is it? > > > > Only if you don't actually "pay" for the Pay TV. The original poster > didn't mention cracking anything did he ? > > Andy. > -- GMAIL is 'da bomb babyYEAH I have GMail invites, if you want one, email me direct. -- GMAIL is 'da bomb babyYEAH I have GMail invites, if you want one, email me direct. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone with working DVB-S in Australia ?
David Whyte wrote: First, I don't think it is legal is it? It's entirely legal if you pay for the service and use a CAM module with the approriate smartcard. That's what CAM modules are for - they take the smartcards normally found in your decoder box and descramble the channels it is authorised for. I think it can be done, but you need a beefy box to crack the foxtel encoding, is the story I was told. I don't know much about it, I just wish Foxtel gave us a legal way to record the video in MythTV, without having to do IR blasters and the like. I always miss the discovery channel shows. My understanding is that with Foxtel analogue, a DVB-S card with the right CAM module and the smartcard, Myth will quite happily work. Last I heard, Foxtel digital uses a different encoding method for which an appropriate CAM module is not yet available. As for the orginal poster, I don't know what hardware is required to receive Foxtel analogue. I have heard of people having success with it. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005 ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone with working DVB-S in Australia ?
Hey Rob, Thanks very much. I had no idea there was a legal way to receive Foxtel at all. This is something I will have to investigate furhter and possibly hook into Myth. Then it really will be the dog-bollocks ;) Cheers ate, Dave On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:29:21 +1100, Rob Hillis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Whyte wrote: > > >First, I don't think it is legal is it? > > > > > It's entirely legal if you pay for the service and use a CAM module with > the approriate smartcard. That's what CAM modules are for - they take > the smartcards normally found in your decoder box and descramble the > channels it is authorised for. > > >I think it can be done, but you need a beefy box to crack the foxtel > >encoding, is the story I was told. I don't know much about it, I just > >wish Foxtel gave us a legal way to record the video in MythTV, without > >having to do IR blasters and the like. I always miss the discovery > >channel shows. > > > > > My understanding is that with Foxtel analogue, a DVB-S card with the > right CAM module and the smartcard, Myth will quite happily work. Last > I heard, Foxtel digital uses a different encoding method for which an > appropriate CAM module is not yet available. > > As for the orginal poster, I don't know what hardware is required to > receive Foxtel analogue. I have heard of people having success with it. > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005 > > -- GMAIL is 'da bomb babyYEAH I have GMail invites, if you want one, email me direct. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone with working DVB-S in Australia ?
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:24:00 +1000, David Whyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, nice surname :P > > First, I don't think it is legal is it? > Only if you don't actually "pay" for the Pay TV. The original poster didn't mention cracking anything did he ? Andy. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone with working DVB-S in Australia ?
Hey, nice surname :P First, I don't think it is legal is it? I think it can be done, but you need a beefy box to crack the foxtel encoding, is the story I was told. I don't know much about it, I just wish Foxtel gave us a legal way to record the video in MythTV, without having to do IR blasters and the like. I always miss the discovery channel shows. Dave On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:59:00 +1100, Damien Whyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Just wanted to know if any of the Aussies on the list were using > MythTV to view Pay TV using DVB-S ? > > If so I'd be very keen on knowing what type of tuner cards, CAM > versions etc you are using. > > Thanks, > Damien. > > -- > Now listening to - Bongzilla / Apogee / American (live) > > > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > > -- GMAIL is 'da bomb babyYEAH I have GMail invites, if you want one, email me direct. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Anyone with working DVB-S in Australia ?
Hi all, Just wanted to know if any of the Aussies on the list were using MythTV to view Pay TV using DVB-S ? If so I'd be very keen on knowing what type of tuner cards, CAM versions etc you are using. Thanks, Damien. -- Now listening to - Bongzilla / Apogee / American (live) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
