Re: [mythtv-users] Max number of recordings - unexpected episode deletions
On Monday 08 August 2005 16:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 02:01:34PM -0400, Pat Vaughan wrote: When I change the episode limit, Myth should apply that to ALL the recordings. If you want more, than make it unlimited, and let Myth manage it by free disk space instead of number of recordings. Though, there should be an option to say don't delete this. Tivo has similar functionality and I've used it on several occasions. There *is* such an option. Go to the watch recordings menu and navigate to the episode you want to keep. Activate the pop-up menu and select don't auto expire. That flag applies only the the selected episode without changing your preference for the recording rule so later episodes will be expired normally. Okay, I'm not at home so I can't check this, but I *thought* an option went in recently to Preserve this episode under Watch Recordings-MENU. IIRC, 'Do not auto-expire' does not affect shows that would be deleted due to a max episode limit. ... Ok, just looked in the source code... from the source: A preserved episode is ignored in calculations for deleting episodes above the limit. Auto-expiration is used to remove eligable programs when disk space is low. The Preserve this episode button only shows up if the recording rule used for the show had a max episode setting. That feature went in on 24 Dec 2004, and was included in the 0.17 release. -JAC ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Max number of recordings - unexpected episode deletions
At 04:14 PM 8/8/2005, you wrote: On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 02:01:34PM -0400, Pat Vaughan wrote: When I change the episode limit, Myth should apply that to ALL the recordings. If you want more, than make it unlimited, and let Myth manage it by free disk space instead of number of recordings. Though, there should be an option to say don't delete this. Tivo has similar functionality and I've used it on several occasions. There *is* such an option. Go to the watch recordings menu and navigate to the episode you want to keep. Activate the pop-up menu and select don't auto expire. That flag applies only the the selected episode without changing your preference for the recording rule so later episodes will be expired normally. I'll give that a try. The first observation about lowering the max number of recordings and then Myth deleting to match that number isn't that big of a deal, I can work around that. Before I realized it would do that, I was going through lowering all of max number of episodes since my drive was filling up fast and I realized I didn't need to keep 10 Seinfelds, 10 fear factors, 10 Mythbusters, etc... on the drive. Then it wiped them out leaving them marked as seen so it wouldn't record them again even though I didn't watch them. The real issue is with it set to stop recording when at max recordings it would occasionally record back to back episodes, go over the limit, then delete to get back within the limit. With it leaving them in the database as seen, it's going to make my goal of seeing all 600 episodes of cops hard (jk!). That tells me there's a race condition to Myth realizing it's recorded up to its limit and starting a new recording. Hrmph! Still beats live TV though! ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Max number of recordings - unexpected episode deletions
At 12:27 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 06:56:47AM -0400, Timothy G. Schaefer wrote: The real issue is with it set to stop recording when at max recordings it would occasionally record back to back episodes, go over the limit, then delete to get back within the limit. With it leaving them in the database as seen, it's going to make my goal of seeing all 600 episodes of cops hard This is *also* within your control. Navigate to Utilities/Setup, Setup, TV Settings, General and go to the third page. Set the check-box for Re-record programs which have automagically expired. It's too late for the stuff you've already lost, but there's another menu page where you can erase the already seen records for episodes manually. I can understand why you're having problems finding these setup options. MythTV is great software but the menu system is is hopelessly disorganized. You should probably take some time to look everywhere in the menus. You'll not be able to remember where everything is, but at least you'll know that options exist so you can search for them when you need them. I agree about the menu system. It might make sense to revamp this at some point or have a shadow set of menus where the settings for everything is reorganized into a more memorable layout. Too bad we can't have something like a tree control expansion so we could at least see the true hierarchy ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Max number of recordings - unexpected episode deletions
At 12:27 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 06:56:47AM -0400, Timothy G. Schaefer wrote: The real issue is with it set to stop recording when at max recordings it would occasionally record back to back episodes, go over the limit, then delete to get back within the limit. With it leaving them in the database as seen, it's going to make my goal of seeing all 600 episodes of cops hard This is *also* within your control. Navigate to Utilities/Setup, Setup, TV Settings, General and go to the third page. Set the check-box for Re-record programs which have automagically expired. It's too late for the stuff you've already lost, but there's another menu page where you can erase the already seen records for episodes manually. and there it is. I knew Myth was too good not to have it in there. Also unchecked Auto expire by default while I was in there. I knew about the previous recordings menu, the check box for auto expire was a little deep to find on a whim. It probably would be a little bit more clear to create a group of recording behavior for settings like this instead of putting it in TV settings-General, but then anytime you get anything this full featured (e.g. Linux, Windows, etc...) it gets tough to make it clear and obvious. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Max number of recordings - unexpected episode deletions
2) I have seen a few times where I have a series set to maintain 5 episodes and it has all 5. I watch one of them and delete it, then two back to back episodes of the series come on and it records both and then realizes it's over the limit then deletes the oldest of the 6. It was like when it started to record the second one it didn't realize it had already reached the limit, then later realized it was over the limit and deleted the oldest one ala complaint observation #1. Myth can be set to 'rotate content'. It has a setting to delete old and record new when the limit is reached; you may have this set. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Max number of recordings - unexpected episode deletions
On 8/7/05, Timothy G. Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anybody else seeing this? Did I miss one of the many settings? Should it work like that? To me it seems like unless I'm running out of hard drive space or I explicitly tell it When episode limit is full, delete old, record new MythTV should *never* auto delete an episode, even if it is over the episode limit. This is exactly what it seems like the episode limit does, and probably should do. This way if you get low on space you can resolve it by setting episode limits and having mythtv automatically take care of which episodes to delete for you. I'm not able to check my setup at the moment, but I would hope there's some way to lock specific episodes to prevent automatic deletion. If not, that's the feature it sounds like we need in this case. Exactly, that's the behavior I expect. When I change the episode limit, Myth should apply that to ALL the recordings. If you want more, than make it unlimited, and let Myth manage it by free disk space instead of number of recordings. Though, there should be an option to say don't delete this. Tivo has similar functionality and I've used it on several occasions. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Max number of recordings - unexpected episode deletions
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 02:01:34PM -0400, Pat Vaughan wrote: When I change the episode limit, Myth should apply that to ALL the recordings. If you want more, than make it unlimited, and let Myth manage it by free disk space instead of number of recordings. Though, there should be an option to say don't delete this. Tivo has similar functionality and I've used it on several occasions. There *is* such an option. Go to the watch recordings menu and navigate to the episode you want to keep. Activate the pop-up menu and select don't auto expire. That flag applies only the the selected episode without changing your preference for the recording rule so later episodes will be expired normally. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Max number of recordings - unexpected episode deletions
I've come across two scenarios and I was wondering if others thought this was normal, or If I maybe made a wrong choice for a setting buried deeply somewhere. 1) If I lower the max number of recordings, MythTV will chug along and start deleting the oldest episodes to match the number of max recordings. To me it seems like it this limit should only affect recording new shows, not deleting to maintain this number. This seems to be regardless of the checkbox for auto expire, This also is independent of harddrive space as I have well over 100GB free, and I think I have set to maintain at least 5GB free in the settings. The first time I saw this was when a Mythbusters marathon came on. I raised the episode limit to 10 to make sure I got all of them, then afterwards lowered it back down to 3 so it wouldn't record new ones until I manually deleted at least 8 of them. After the episode limit change MythTV wiped out 7 of them to get to 3 recordings without asking. 2) I have seen a few times where I have a series set to maintain 5 episodes and it has all 5. I watch one of them and delete it, then two back to back episodes of the series come on and it records both and then realizes it's over the limit then deletes the oldest of the 6. It was like when it started to record the second one it didn't realize it had already reached the limit, then later realized it was over the limit and deleted the oldest one ala complaint observation #1. Is anybody else seeing this? Did I miss one of the many settings? Should it work like that? To me it seems like unless I'm running out of hard drive space or I explicitly tell it When episode limit is full, delete old, record new MythTV should *never* auto delete an episode, even if it is over the episode limit. Other than that Myth is AWESOME! I haven't watched live TV in months, and there is no going back. Thanks guys! Oh yeah, specs... MythTV ATRPMS latest (18.1) via Jarod's FC3 guide Standard Def recordings PVR-250 ASUS Pundit-S -Tim ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Max number of recordings - unexpected episode deletions
On 8/7/05, Timothy G. Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anybody else seeing this? Did I miss one of the many settings? Should it work like that? To me it seems like unless I'm running out of hard drive space or I explicitly tell it When episode limit is full, delete old, record new MythTV should *never* auto delete an episode, even if it is over the episode limit. This is exactly what it seems like the episode limit does, and probably should do. This way if you get low on space you can resolve it by setting episode limits and having mythtv automatically take care of which episodes to delete for you. I'm not able to check my setup at the moment, but I would hope there's some way to lock specific episodes to prevent automatic deletion. If not, that's the feature it sounds like we need in this case. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Max number of recordings - unexpected episode deletions
On 8/7/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/7/05, Timothy G. Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anybody else seeing this? Did I miss one of the many settings? Should it work like that? To me it seems like unless I'm running out of hard drive space or I explicitly tell it When episode limit is full, delete old, record new MythTV should *never* auto delete an episode, even if it is over the episode limit. This is exactly what it seems like the episode limit does, and probably should do. This way if you get low on space you can resolve it by setting episode limits and having mythtv automatically take care of which episodes to delete for you. I'm not able to check my setup at the moment, but I would hope there's some way to lock specific episodes to prevent automatic deletion. If not, that's the feature it sounds like we need in this case. There is not a way to do this. It would be nice. Another potential feature, which would be big WAF in my house, is some way of marking shows as having been viewed by all the people that want to watch them. I record a few shows for myself, but about 60% of what we record is for both my wife and I, and we are forever deleting things before the other one has had a chance to watch. It would be nice to have some option in the setup to say which users wanted to be involved in deletion, and then an option in the deletion message that says something along the lines of 'mark for deletion by user 'Mark', etc. Along these same lines are position save by user. My wife saves a position in the episode she's watching. I come along and start watching and that deletes her position. Myth rocks, Mark ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
