Re: [neonixie-l] board with inverted fractions and digits tubes

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi,
The fractions tube is the ZM1237. Displays 1/2, 3/4, 5/8, 1/4, 7/8.
I have these NOS on stock if someone needs them.
The others are ZM1232 or ZM1235.
I have these NIB on stock and looking for someone who can create an 
upside-down nixie clock (kit) with the ZM1232. I have tubes for 180 clocks.

So if any of you have time and feel like it, please feel free to contact me.
Dieter


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Re: [neonixie-l] B49989 nixie

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi!
I can add the following SK-176 tubes:

B-4991 0-9
B-4997 0-9
B-4998 0-9
B-49982 +, -
B-49983  2, 3, 4, R digits
B-49989 A, C, G, L, N, R, S, T, V, Δ
B-49990 B, C, D, E, H, T, U, W, Δ
F9131BAA 0-9
NL-4998 0-9
NL-49982 +, -
NL-49989 A, C, G, L, N, R, S, T, V, Δ
NL-49990 B, C, D, E, H, T, U, W, Δ
NL-49998 W, E

Best,
Dieter

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Re: [neonixie-l] One for the collectors...

[Dieter Waechter]

Great!
What is the exact part number of that one?
DT-1741C?
Best,
Dieter


Am 13.07.2023 um 03:00 schrieb Nicholas Stock:

IMG_3754.jpegIMG_3755.jpeg



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Re: [neonixie-l] Looking for Information about "Digicator" incandescent readouts

[Dieter Waechter]

That would be great! Thanks you!
Regards
Dieter

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Re: [neonixie-l] Looking for Information about "Digicator" incandescent readouts

[Dieter Waechter]

WONDERFUL!
Thank you so much!
Dieter

Am 05.11.2022 um 10:02 schrieb Dave ZL3FJ:

https://archive.org/details/TNM_Digicator_electronic_numeric_readouts_series__20171110_0112/mode/2up
more data here-
DaveB, NZ

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Behalf Of Dieter Waechter
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2022 21:47
To: Neonixies
Subject: [neonixie-l] Looking for Information about "Digicator" incandescent 
readouts

Hi,
does anyone have information about "Digicator" incandescent readouts made by 
Discon Coroporation?
Datasheets maybe?
See ad attached.
Best regards
Dieter

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi!
I have some of these.
Types:
DT-1704B
DT-1704C
DT-1705E

Used, tested, working, but since used not full brightness of course - 
$15/each plus shipping.


Datasheet here:
http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/dat_arch/DT-1704_276-063.pdf

Best regards
Dieter




Am 05.02.2022 um 14:34 schrieb Bill Notfaded:
I love these tube with and without mica.  When I first saw them without 
mica I had to have some because they are unlike any other VFD I've ever 
seen!

IMG_20191005_185517.jpg
Bill
On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 10:16:44 AM UTC-7 tntm...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Bill, the DT-1704A, DT-1704B, DT-1705A and DT-1705B Digivac tubes
actually had true floating segments without mica sheets, the later
DT-1704C and DT-1705C tubes implemented the mics sheet, probably a
good change for reliability.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022, 5:44 AM Bill Notfaded  wrote:

Awesome thanks for the datasheet!  It looked to me similar to
the other what I call floating VFD on mica type tubes like a
handful of others.

Bill

On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 7:01:53 PM UTC-7 charles wrote:

According to the original data sheet the 8894 is more or
less standard
7 segment VFD. clipping from the TCA Data Cache.


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Re: [neonixie-l] Little tube mystery

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi!

LD-955A is the same as CD89P (100% match). High brightness. Designed for 
multiplexing, M7S-1 base (12 long wires) - both by NEC. Only these two 
in this substitute group - no other matches.


CD71 is part of a larger substitute group (group #0030 for my notes 
here) - this is:


CD71
CD71LA
CD78
CD78/GR-115
CD78s
CD79
GR-115
ZM1325

But none of these all are "mystery" tubes - all well known. ;)

Best regards
Dieter




Am 07.10.2021 um 08:33 schrieb LB:

Here's a shot of a CD71 (left) and an LD-955A (right):
The LD-955A is noticeably slimmer, but it's kinda hard to make it out in 
this pic.

IMG_7028.jpg
And here are the markings:
IMG_7031.jpg
On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 3:56:58 PM UTC-7 LB wrote:

This looks more like an LD-955A to me, I’ll get a photo when I get
the chance


On Oct 5, 2021, at 12:24 PM, David Chambers 
wrote:


Hi, some years ago I aquired 7 small Nixie tubes, the markings
have gone, but on one there can be seen a faint Hitachi logo. I
have attached a pic of one next to a Z5900M for size comparison. I
thought they must be CD71 type, but I also have 1 (just one!) tube
that is clearly marked CD71 with the Hitachi logo. It is fatter
though, and has a very open anode mesh, at 12.5mm dia, whereas the
mystery tubes are only 9.4mm dia.

5 of 7  mystery tubes work fine. Of the other 2 0,ne has a broken
anode lead, and the other appears to be dead. The leads on them
are quite oxidised and are a bit brittle.

I will never do anything with them, so if anybody - prefaraby UK -
wants them, let me know.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Burroughs 70910

[Dieter Waechter]

Maybe a B-7094 with different pinout - Jeffry can you check?

Am 04.10.2021 um 03:05 schrieb jb-electronics:
Cool, does the tube have any prints on it? Otherwise it looks like a 
standard B-7094 to me, anybody?


Jens

On 2021-10-03 7:54 p.m., Jeffry P wrote:

b70910 3.jpgb70910 box.jpg
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nocrotec Blue Dream Nixie Transformer Nixtra-18.????

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi!
Answered.
Best regards
Dieter

Am 05.01.2021 um 22:53 schrieb Paul Andrews:

I think that only Dieter can answer that.

On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 4:24:56 PM UTC-5 Tim Goldsmith wrote:

Hi

  Recently unpacked my IN-18 Blue Dream Nixie Clock with the belly
to assemble it (after 6 years) and noticed a few components are
missing. Dieter nicely told me they were way past that project..

  Most of what is missing I think I can source (column (colun)
tubes, buzzer, leds)  but I need information on part:

TR-1 Nixie Transformer, type Nixtra-18.

  In googling Nixie Transformers, none of the results look like the
gold square with the red dot. Is this similar to the photo on page 2
of the instructions.

http://www.clausurbach.de/nixieclocks/english/downloads/AI_BD_English.pdf

What can I use without much modification?

Am I looking for something that functions like NCH6100HV ??
  At least I got all the nixies!

Any help is appreciated!
Thanks
Tim

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Re: [neonixie-l] Master list of oddball symbols?

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi,
this is correct:
  Type Displayed Symbols 
  B-54364 G, M, K, m, µ, n [top], Hz, S [bottom] 
  B-54365 A, D, K, M [left], C, R, V, Ω [right] 


Best
Dieter

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jon Jackson 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2020 3:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Master list of oddball symbols?


  Hmmm...


  Perhaps my spreadsheet has them swapped.  I see your are correct for the 
B-54364 from http://www.swissnixie.com/index.php?tubeID=B54364


  I have a few B-54364s and one B-54365 according to my entries.  I can see I 
need to find them and light them up...


  Cheers


  On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 5:46 PM Mac Doktor  wrote:

  On Jan 24, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Jon Jackson  wrote:


  For B-54364 that is...


According to the database that's the B‑54365:


A, D, K, M [left]
C, R, V, Ω [right]


pins 8 & 9 at front: Anode=3&14, A[l]=6, D[l]=7, K[l]=5, M[l]=4, C[r]=10, 
C[r]=11, R[r]=9, V[r]=13, Ω[r]=12




I don't have one of these so...




Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
"The Mac Doctor"


"If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, Blade 
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Re: [neonixie-l] A bunch of nice photos of Dekatrons like Z562S, Z564S, Z565C, Z572S and more!

[Dieter Waechter]

And check out that:
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57515
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57514
GREAT!!!
Martin! What a find!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dieter Waechter 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 9:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] A bunch of nice photos of Dekatrons like Z562S, 
Z564S, Z565C, Z572S and more!


  Oh no! Guys!
  Look at that:

  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57495
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57498
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57499
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57500
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57501
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57502
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57503
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57516

  Never seen pictures of true Nixie production!
  fantastic!
  Dieter
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From: Dieter Waechter 
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] A bunch of nice photos of Dekatrons like Z562S, 
Z564S, Z565C, Z572S and more!


Oh my Lord! What a fantastic find!
And I have found some more - added to the list and converted to links:

https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57448
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57449
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57450
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57451
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57711
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57712
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57725
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57845
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57851
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57868
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57998
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60774
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60818
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60829
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60840
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60851
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60862


Absolutely interesting.
Thank you Martin!
Best regards
Dieter


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dekatron42 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 9:03 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] A bunch of nice photos of Dekatrons like Z562S, 
Z564S, Z565C, Z572S and more!


  Found these while Googling.


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57451


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57450


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57448


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57449


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57868


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57712


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57725


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57998


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57845


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57711


  Enjoy!


  There are a lot more photos of tube manufacturing from RFT & WF and maybe 
more but I haven't checked every photo.


  /Martin

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Re: [neonixie-l] A bunch of nice photos of Dekatrons like Z562S, Z564S, Z565C, Z572S and more!

[Dieter Waechter]

Oh no! Guys!
Look at that:

https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57495
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57498
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57499
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57500
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57501
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57502
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57503
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57516

Never seen pictures of true Nixie production!
fantastic!
Dieter
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dieter Waechter 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 9:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] A bunch of nice photos of Dekatrons like Z562S, 
Z564S, Z565C, Z572S and more!


  Oh my Lord! What a fantastic find!
  And I have found some more - added to the list and converted to links:

  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57448
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57449
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57450
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57451
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57711
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57712
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57725
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57845
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57851
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57868
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57998
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60774
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60818
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60829
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60840
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60851
  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60862


  Absolutely interesting.
  Thank you Martin!
  Best regards
  Dieter


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From: Dekatron42 
To: neonixie-l 
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 9:03 PM
Subject: [neonixie-l] A bunch of nice photos of Dekatrons like Z562S, 
Z564S, Z565C, Z572S and more!


Found these while Googling.


https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57451


https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57450


https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57448


https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57449


https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57868


https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57712


https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57725


https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57998


https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57845


https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57711


Enjoy!


There are a lot more photos of tube manufacturing from RFT & WF and maybe 
more but I haven't checked every photo.


/Martin


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Re: [neonixie-l] A bunch of nice photos of Dekatrons like Z562S, Z564S, Z565C, Z572S and more!

[Dieter Waechter]

Oh my Lord! What a fantastic find!
And I have found some more - added to the list and converted to links:

https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57448
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57449
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57450
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57451
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57711
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57712
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57725
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57845
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57851
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57868
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57998
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60774
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60818
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60829
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60840
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60851
https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=60862


Absolutely interesting.
Thank you Martin!
Best regards
Dieter


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dekatron42 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 9:03 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] A bunch of nice photos of Dekatrons like Z562S, Z564S, 
Z565C, Z572S and more!


  Found these while Googling.


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57451


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57450


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57448


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57449


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57868


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57712


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57725


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57998


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57845


  https://berlin.museum-digital.de/index.php?t=objekt&oges=57711


  Enjoy!


  There are a lot more photos of tube manufacturing from RFT & WF and maybe 
more but I haven't checked every photo.


  /Martin

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols?

[Dieter Waechter]

Hello Markus,
Yes, I have some of the LL-55x in my collection.
Your "POST" display is cool! I like it.
Best regards
Dieter


Am 22.01.2020 um 12:32 schrieb mgebha:

The LL-55* tubes are great: very nice and reliable. And most of the
characters are covered. Note that you can use 0 and 1 from the numeric
tube to also cover O and I.

For about 3 years now I am using those tubes for a „POST“-sign to
display the state of my postbox inside the house. It lights up when new
components from china etc. have arrived. So I always know when it is
time to check the mailbox. I am very happy with this nixie project, but
did not have time yet to document it...

Best regards
Markus (long term lurker on this group)


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Information about very odd ZM an Z Nixie Tubes and Dekatrons

[Dieter Waechter]

Thank you Martin,
Yes, I understand that. In future I will surely do research in special 
type numbers... will show the results with questions here...

Best regards
Dieter


Am 22.01.2020 um 08:56 schrieb Dekatron42:
> Thank you Dieter for explaining! I have a few contacts that I can ask 
about some details if I know more, but since most of the contacts are 
well over 80 years old and some well over 90 years old they have asked 
me to only ask about specific information rather than a bunch of 
information. So if you find some small piece of information about an old 
Nixie I can try to se if anyone has more information.

>
> /Martin
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Information about very odd ZM an Z Nixie Tubes and Dekatrons --> LC-541

[Dieter Waechter]

Thank you Tomasz for the information.
Yes, I see this entry in the RFT catalogue.
I also never saw a picture of that type.
Best regards
Dieter

Am 22.01.2020 um 00:02 schrieb Tomasz Kowalczyk:

I'd like to use your thread to add one more tube to the list of sought
tubes:
LC-541 - a biquinary tube made by Dolam, mentioned as a replacement for
other biquinary tubes with noval socket in some RFT catalog. I've never
seen a photo of one or any other mention of its existence.



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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: ZM1243

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi Richard,
are you sure your ZM1243 has a "%" symbol?
Best regards
Dieter

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From: Richard Scales

To: neonixie-l
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: LL- 
and LC-tubes



Here is some information on some symbol tubes that I have:


ZM1001R Side view Nixie, 14mm symbol height +, –, ~, X, Y, Z
ZM1021 by Mullard, Top view Nixie, 15.5mm symbol height A, V, Ω, +, –, ~, %
ZM1023 by Valvo, Top view Nixie, 15.5mm symbol height A, V, Ω, +, –, ~, %
ZM1024 by RTC, Top view Nixie, 15.5mm symbol height c/s, Kc/s, Mc/s, us, ms, 
ns, s

ZM1033 by Dario, Side view Nixie, 15mm symbol height +, –, ~
ZM1263 by RTC, Side view Nixie, 10mm symbol height +, -, ~, (spiral)
Z5610M Top view Nixie, 15.5mm symbol height A, V, Ω, +, –, ~, %, W
ZM1081 Side view nixie, 10.5mm symbol height +, –, ~
ZM1243 Side view Nixie, 16mm symbol height +, -, %, Ω, ~ 


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Information about very odd ZM an Z Nixie Tubes and Dekatrons

[Dieter Waechter]

Thank you Martin,
This is the special list of the "Z" section where I only have the type numbers 
and no other data.
I have not explored all data books and data sheets in my archive. So it might 
be, that I have some data but die not find them, yet.
Of course some are very easy to "guess" - like ZM1010R is the red filter 
version of the ZM1010, or Z5720M is the clear version of the Z572M.
Oh, this is a good example that the Z5720M exists, since I got the Z572M 
already. 
So to answer your question: The type numbers are all I have up to now.
Best regards
Dieter

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  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 9:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Information about very odd ZM an Z Nixie Tubes 
and Dekatrons


  Ok, so what data/information do you have so far on them, care to share that?


  It might help to know what's available so I can try to ask contacts if they 
know anything in regards to what's available.


  /Martin


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Information about very odd ZM an Z Nixie Tubes and Dekatrons

[Dieter Waechter]

Hello,
Yes, I confirm, these numbers look like missing between other (known) tubes, 
but for all of these I have found at least one source telling that they exist.
Sources are mixed, collected over years... 
So it's not just a guess from me that they might exist.
Best regards
Dieter

  - Original Message - 
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  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 7:58 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Information about very odd ZM an Z Nixie Tubes and 
Dekatrons


  Are you sure these are actual products or are they just guesses because the 
numbers are missing in between other known Nixies?


  It would be good to know before I go hunting for information.


  /Martin


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[neonixie-l] Information about very odd ZM an Z Nixie Tubes and Dekatrons

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi Nixie friends,
I'm looking for all information about these strange ZM- and Z- Nixies and 
Dekatrons:


ZM1
ZM2
ZM3
ZM4
ZM5
ZM6
ZM7
ZM8
ZM9
ZM10

ZM1002R
ZM1003R
ZM1004
ZM1004R
ZM1010R
ZM1012R
ZM1013R
ZM1014R
ZM1018
ZM1201
ZM1203
ZM1205
ZM1221
ZM1223
ZM1311
ZM1312
ZM1313
ZM1314
ZM1315
ZM1316
ZM1317
ZM1318
ZM1319
ZM1321
ZM1322
ZM1323
ZM1324

Z5100M
Z5110M
Z511M
Z516M
Z561S
Z5690M
Z569M
Z5720M
Z965W

I'm happy about every little hint... data, pictures, datasheets, offers for 
these of course as well.

You can send larger files directly to i...@nocrotec.com
Thanks
Dieter 


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: LL- and LC-tubes

[Dieter Waechter]

Thank you Aleksander,
I thought this might be a second data page.
Update of the List:

  Type Sort Brand(s)  Base & Pinout Displayed symbols 
  LC-1 NIX-E PIE B13B 0-9, upper dot, lower dot 
  LC-2 NIX-E PIE, Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, upper dot, PR 
  LC-7 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-511 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, dot (middle left) 
  LC-511F NIX-E   B13B numerals 
  LC-513 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, PL 
  LC-513A NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-516 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) U11 0-9 
  LC-531 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-531F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-541 NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
  LC-541F NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
  LC-631 (Version 01) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-631 (Version 02) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-631F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LL-1 NIX-E PIE B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, %, k, m, µ, p, F, H, M, W 
  LL-551 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
  LL-551F NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
  LL-552 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B m, M, p, μ, k, n 
  LL-553 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B F, H, Hz, S, W, z 
  LL-555 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B Ł, C, T, R, Y, N, B 
  LL-556 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B G, M, P, S, U, Δ 
  LL-557 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B E, J, A, V, F, H 
  LL-558 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B D, L, K, W, X, Z, φ 
  LL-558B NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B symbols 
  LL-561 NIX-S(I) Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D +, -, Δ or +, -, ~ 
  LL-661 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B +, -, ~ 
  LL-661F NIX-E   B13B +, -, ~ 


Additions welcome. Pictures welcome. Datasheets welcome. All data missing in 
the chart very welcome.
Offers for all welcome, too!
Best regards
Dieter



- Original Message - 
  From: Aleksander Zawada 
  To: Dieter Waechter 
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 11:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: LL- 
and LC-tubes


  http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/ll1/ll1_pie_e.htm

  This is the correct link. 


  W dniu 20.01.2020 o 22:47, Dieter Waechter pisze:

Thank you Aleksander for the additions.
Do you know where that page is:
http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/ll1/l11_pie_e.htm
Best regards
Dieter

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  From: Aleksander Zawada 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com ; Dieter Waechter 
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 9:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: 
LL- and LC-tubes


  http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/ll1/ll1_pie_e.htm

  http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/lc2/lc2_pie_e.htm


  W dniu 20.01.2020 o 20:41, Dieter Waechter pisze:

HI,
This is right, but note that the RFT Bulletin tells "+, -, ~".
Especially at the LL- and LC-tubes there were different symbols and 
also pinouts with the same type number.

This is all I know at the moment:

  Type Sort Brand(s)  Base Displayed symbols 
  LC-1 NIX-E PIE B13B 0-9 
  LC-2 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B numerals 
  LC-7 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-511 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, dot (middle left) 
  LC-511F NIX-E   B13B numerals 
  LC-513 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, PL 
  LC-513A NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-516 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) U11 0-9 
  LC-531 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-531F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-541 NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
  LC-541F NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
  LC-631 (Version 01) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-631 (Version 02) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-631F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LL-1 NIX-E   B13B symbols 
  LL-551 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
  LL-551F NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
  LL-552 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B m, M, p, μ, k, n 
  LL-553 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B F, H, Hz, S, W, z 
  LL-555 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B Ł, C, T, R, Y, N, B 
  LL-556 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B G, M, P, S, U, Δ 
  LL-557 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B E, J, A, V, F, H 
  LL-558 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B D, L, K, W, X, Z, φ 
  LL-558B NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B symbols 
  LL-561 NIX-S(I) Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D +, -, Δ or +, -, ~ 
  LL-661 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B +, -, ~ 
   

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: LL- and LC-tubes

[Dieter Waechter]

Thank you Aleksander for the additions.
Do you know where that page is:
http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/ll1/l11_pie_e.htm
Best regards
Dieter

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  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com ; Dieter Waechter 
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 9:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: LL- 
and LC-tubes


  http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/ll1/ll1_pie_e.htm

  http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/lc2/lc2_pie_e.htm


  W dniu 20.01.2020 o 20:41, Dieter Waechter pisze:

HI,
This is right, but note that the RFT Bulletin tells "+, -, ~".
Especially at the LL- and LC-tubes there were different symbols and also 
pinouts with the same type number.

This is all I know at the moment:

  Type Sort Brand(s)  Base Displayed symbols 
  LC-1 NIX-E PIE B13B 0-9 
  LC-2 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B numerals 
  LC-7 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-511 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, dot (middle left) 
  LC-511F NIX-E   B13B numerals 
  LC-513 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, PL 
  LC-513A NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-516 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) U11 0-9 
  LC-531 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-531F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-541 NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
  LC-541F NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
  LC-631 (Version 01) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-631 (Version 02) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-631F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LL-1 NIX-E   B13B symbols 
  LL-551 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
  LL-551F NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
  LL-552 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B m, M, p, μ, k, n 
  LL-553 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B F, H, Hz, S, W, z 
  LL-555 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B Ł, C, T, R, Y, N, B 
  LL-556 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B G, M, P, S, U, Δ 
  LL-557 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B E, J, A, V, F, H 
  LL-558 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B D, L, K, W, X, Z, φ 
  LL-558B NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B symbols 
  LL-561 NIX-S(I) Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D +, -, Δ or +, -, ~ 
  LL-661 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B +, -, ~ 
  LL-661F NIX-E   B13B +, -, ~ 


Additions welcome. Pictures welcome. Datasheets welcome. All data missing 
in the chart very welcome.
Offers for all welcome, too!
Best regards
Dieter



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  From: Tyler Bourne 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 8:24 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols?


  There is the Dolam LL-561, with +, -, and a triangle.



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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: LL- and LC-tubes

[Dieter Waechter]

HI,
This is right, but note that the RFT Bulletin tells "+, -, ~".
Especially at the LL- and LC-tubes there were different symbols and also 
pinouts with the same type number.

This is all I know at the moment:

  Type Sort Brand(s)  Base Displayed symbols 
  LC-1 NIX-E PIE B13B 0-9 
  LC-2 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B numerals 
  LC-7 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-511 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, dot (middle left) 
  LC-511F NIX-E   B13B numerals 
  LC-513 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, PL 
  LC-513A NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-516 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) U11 0-9 
  LC-531 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-531F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-541 NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
  LC-541F NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
  LC-631 (Version 01) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-631 (Version 02) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-631F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LL-1 NIX-E   B13B symbols 
  LL-551 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
  LL-551F NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
  LL-552 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B m, M, p, μ, k, n 
  LL-553 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B F, H, Hz, S, W, z 
  LL-555 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B Ł, C, T, R, Y, N, B 
  LL-556 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B G, M, P, S, U, Δ 
  LL-557 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B E, J, A, V, F, H 
  LL-558 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B D, L, K, W, X, Z, φ 
  LL-558B NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B symbols 
  LL-561 NIX-S(I) Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D +, -, Δ or +, -, ~ 
  LL-661 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B +, -, ~ 
  LL-661F NIX-E   B13B +, -, ~ 


Additions welcome. Pictures welcome. Datasheets welcome. All data missing in 
the chart very welcome.
Offers for all welcome, too!
Best regards
Dieter



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  From: Tyler Bourne 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 8:24 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols?


  There is the Dolam LL-561, with +, -, and a triangle.



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Re: [neonixie-l] Dieter's IN18 Tube data

[Dieter Waechter]

Hello John,
Yes, you are right. I know this error.
Will correct it as soon as possible.
Best regards
Dieter

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To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 4:18 PM
Subject: [neonixie-l] Dieter's IN18 Tube data


Dieter,
Could you please change the data on your site for the IN18? Pin 4 is NOT at 
the front. The whole world copies your website details and makes clocks that 
are wrong.


Best wishes,
John
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[neonixie-l] CD7, CD62 and NL-849 Nixie Tube data wanted

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi!
I'm looking for everything about these tubes. Pictures, datasheets, 
information...

Thanks in advance...
Best regards
Dieter

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Re: [neonixie-l] National NL-1265 Datasheet?

[Dieter Waechter]

Thank you Paul,
Oh yes, you are right. This is true. I did not know that it also has a 
right hand comma. I updated my database now.

Do you have more than one of these?
Best regards
Dieter


Am 06.01.2020 um 14:18 schrieb Paul Andrews:
> Sounds like the B54370A might also be a substitute? 
https://www.nixies.us/bwg_gallery/b54370a/ I don't have a datasheet for 
that either, but as it was a pull from an HP laser interferometer that 
also had B5441A tubes in it, I assume it is electrically identical.

>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: For those with deep pockets.... five GR10J/F with sockets on eBay....

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi!
No, these are not so rare compared to others.
I collected about 30 pcs. of these and built the Nixie Queen Clock R (R = red) 
with them.
OK, these was some years ago, but there are other Nixie Tubes more rare than 
these.
Dieter

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  Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 6:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: For those with deep pockets five GR10J/F 
with sockets on eBay


  Yes, quite rare indeed these ones.


  Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 5, 2020, at 08:00, gregebert  wrote:



Odd they are priced so high; maybe a rare tube?
IN-18's are 10mm taller (40mm) and list for around 50 USD each.



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Re: [neonixie-l] National NL-1265 Datasheet?

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi!
Only thing known is that it is the same as Hewlett-Packard's 1970-0046.
Ther is no other 100% substitude since the comma shaped right hand dot.
It is a longlife type - rated life: 200k hrs. Ic is 2.3 mA nominal. (2-3.5 mA).
Best matching datasheet is Burroughs_Bulletin_1104D.pdf (youll find at my page)
See B-5441A there. Only difference is the shape of the RH DP.
Best regards
Dieter

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  From: MichaelB 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2020 11:18 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] National NL-1265 Datasheet?


  Does anyone have a datasheet on this tube? I see it mentioned in some of 
Dieters stuff but cannot find a datasheet. Please forward if you have one, Thx

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Blue Y1938 tubes

[Dieter Waechter]

HI!
Y1938 are great!
I will build some more BL-100 clocks in 2020:
http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/different/bl-100/bl-100.htm
If some of you are interested, let me know.
No hurry, I will start in the middle of 2020.
Happy new year!
Dieter


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  From: gregebert 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Friday, January 03, 2020 6:27 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Blue Y1938 tubes


  Yeah, right call to scrap it.


  How long are your VFD tubes lasting ?
  Do you keep the filaments always-on ?
  Are the phosphors always-active, or do you shut-down during certain hours, or 
use a PIR sensor ?


  I'm planning to make a night-clock which slowly turns-on the filament supply 
after the PIR sensor detects motion and time-of-day is night-time, then keeps 
the filaments on for the rest of the night, then shuts them off.
  Segments (phosphors) will glow for a few minutes after each PIR activation, 
then shut off. That will greatly increase their life.
  These tubes have a rather low filament current, 35-40mA, and it's very hard 
to see them glow even with clear glass (DT1704), so they dont run nearly as hot 
as other filaments hence should last a long time.

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Re: [neonixie-l] NL8091 Board Trade?

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi,
Except for some special ones I always recommend these:
http://www.nocrotec.com/shop/product_info.php/language/en/info/p39_14-Nixie-Roehren-Fassungsbuchsen---vollvergoldet-.html
Especially for chinese tubes and for Russian tube (except IN-18) these or 
equual should be used, but also National Electronics an Burroughs with 
larger bases showed high divergence from the ideal pinout in many cases.

Best regads
Dieter


- Original Message - 
From: Mahdi Al Husseini

To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2019 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] NL8091 Board Trade?


Hi, Dieter,


Thanks for the note! While not millmax, they are quite similar, and to my 
knowledge, they are not flexible. Can you point me to flexible receptacles 
on the web? I am having a hard time finding what you might be referring to, 
and cracks are very much something I would like to avoid.



Mahdi


On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 2:39 PM Dieter Waechter  wrote:

Hi,
Did you use Millmax pin receptacles?
--> If yes, this can cause cracks in the frit of the 8091s. These always 
should be sit in flexible pin receptacles. The millmaxes give too little 
space for the pin circle tolearances.

Dieter

- Original Message - 
From: Mahdi Al Husseini

To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2019 7:42 PM
Subject: [neonixie-l] NL8091 Board Trade?


Just finished testing a six-digit NL8091 clock (ESP32) PCB I designed and 
had manufactured, and it works great! As you can tell from the photos 
however, I require another NL8091. Anyone with an NL8091 interested in 
trading one for the PCB shown, fully assembled ($250.00 value in board 
manufacturing costs + parts)? I am also willing to sell the shown board for 
$250.00 + shipping costs, but I only have four remaining, and folks trading 
tubes have priority. Note: this boards uses shift registers - see schematic 
below. Thanks!













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Re: [neonixie-l] Russian Pandicon prototype

[Dieter Waechter]

HI,
i...@nocrotec.com should work - did you get a bounce?
The contact form at the shop is disabbled since the spam-bots. Since the new 
shop is finished soon, I will not do any updates at the old one.

Dieter


- Original Message - 
From: Dekatron42

To: neonixie-l
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2019 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Russian Pandicon prototype


Your "i...@nocrotec.com" address - checked your webshop just now and the 
"contact" and "email" shortcuts don't work in Firefox latest version nor in 
IE.



/Martin


On Sunday, 8 December 2019 14:03:45 UTC+1, Nocrotec wrote:
Hi!
What address did you use?
Dieter
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Russian Pandicon prototype

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi,
I see! What a wonderful tube!
I was away at that time so I didn't recognize it
Dieter

  - Original Message - 
  From: SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2019 1:50 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Russian Pandicon prototype


  Hi Dieter, 



  i do not have this tube, i just saw it in ebay, it was listed with another 
special tube, sadly the auction is so old, it cant be found anymore. Only thing 
is that i've remembered that the listed tube looked "bulkier" than the one 
listed in this post



  It was in 2016 and also was discovered by Jens

  
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/neonixie-l/russian$20pandicon|sort:date/neonixie-l/G7FJnENcJwA/C72vQLE7QQAJ


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Re: [neonixie-l] Russian Pandicon prototype

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi!
What address did you use?
Dieter

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dekatron42 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2019 1:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Russian Pandicon prototype


  @Dieter, my emails, and also some friends emails, don't seem to reach you so 
maybe you should check your spam-filter too or provide a second email to reach 
you at?


  /Martin



@Jens, looks like my e-mails do not reach you. Can you check your 
spamfilter?
Have a good one
Dieter

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Russian Pandicon prototype

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi Jonathan,
Can you send some pictures of your example? 
Dieter


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  From: SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2019 1:02 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Russian Pandicon prototype


  This looks like one of the "more" advanced prototypes, i've sa a similar 
russian one that looked more experimental, having a very thick and messy grid 
tpye and alot of parts that were made with the pink cement material you and the 
pins looked more bulk. Saw that one on ebay a few years ago for like 500$, 
someone has made a pretty good deal on this acution now. 



  Also nice to see that its running




  The speial front view tube is just an endview version of the IN-23 tube. I 
was bidding on it but my limit was topped very quick...


  Am Samstag, 7. Dezember 2019 18:47:50 UTC+1 schrieb Jens Boos:
Hey Nixie friends, 

Did you see the Russian pandicon-style Nixie tube? https://bit.ly/2PjUgAS 
There was also a front view special display tube here: 
https://bit.ly/2OZ6IXF 

Too bad we don't know that much about Nixie tube history in the USSR... 

Cheers 
Jens 



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Re: [neonixie-l] Russian Pandicon prototype

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi,
No. The diamond logo is typically the old Фотон logo.
So "Foton" should be the maker.
Фотон did write the tube type inside the diamond. 
So the tube type should be something like В.100.П --> that's V.100.P
The hand written "43Г" (43G) is not the type by the way, but some kind of a lot 
code.
@Jens, looks like my e-mails do not reach you. Can you check your spamfilter?
Have a good one
Dieter
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  From: Дмитрий Шевченко 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2019 10:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Russian Pandicon prototype


  Possibly developed  from Ryazan
  НИИГРП (Research Institute of Gas Discharge Devices).
  
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%98%D0%98_%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D1%80%D1%8F%D0%B4%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2_%C2%AB%D0%9F%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%BC%D0%B0%C2%BB



  сб, 7 дек. 2019 г. в 20:47, jb-electronics :

Hey Nixie friends,

Did you see the Russian pandicon-style Nixie tube? https://bit.ly/2PjUgAS
There was also a front view special display tube here: 
https://bit.ly/2OZ6IXF

Too bad we don't know that much about Nixie tube history in the USSR...

Cheers
Jens

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Posting personal information on this group.

[Dieter Waechter]

One of the moderators already knows the facts.
Dieter


- Original Message - 
  From: Greg P 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 7:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Posting personal information on this group.


  Replied through ClausDieter please get the facts right.

  On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 12:57:19 PM UTC-5, Nocrotec wrote:
No,
he got my e-mail since my partner forwarded them to him.
I have the prove aswell since he ANSWERED to my e-mail.
He is a liar!
Dieter

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  From: Instrument Resources of America 
  To: neoni...@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Posting personal information on this group.


  Without taking sides, the internet and some servers, etc. have been known 
to occasionally eat emails!!  Ira




  On 1/14/2017 9:41 AM, Dieter Waechter wrote:

Gene,
I can prove that I answered all his e-mails. He is a liar.
But that all does not matter.
Moderator - please help!
Dieter



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  From: Gene Mark Segal 
  To: neoni...@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Posting personal information on this 
group.


  WOW! Such strong and repetitive language only shows that one has a 
reason to prove something. Good customer service means never putting your 
customers in a position to feel the need to reach out to the community.  



  Greg has been a solid long-term customer of mine. 


  Gene Segal

  On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Greg P  wrote:


Nick, 


Thank you!  That was very inappropriate of Dieter to put my 
PERSONAL information out there.  I have tried numerous times to resolve this 
privately.




On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 12:04:49 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote: 
  It is completely forbidden to post confidential personal 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Posting personal information on this group.

[Dieter Waechter]

No,
he got my e-mail since my partner forwarded them to him.
I have the prove aswell since he ANSWERED to my e-mail.
He is a liar!
Dieter

  - Original Message - 
  From: Instrument Resources of America 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Posting personal information on this group.


  Without taking sides, the internet and some servers, etc. have been known to 
occasionally eat emails!!  Ira




  On 1/14/2017 9:41 AM, Dieter Waechter wrote:

Gene,
I can prove that I answered all his e-mails. He is a liar.
But that all does not matter.
Moderator - please help!
Dieter



- Original Message - 
  From: Gene Mark Segal 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Posting personal information on this group.


  WOW! Such strong and repetitive language only shows that one has a reason 
to prove something. Good customer service means never putting your customers in 
a position to feel the need to reach out to the community.  



  Greg has been a solid long-term customer of mine. 


  Gene Segal

  On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Greg P  wrote:


Nick, 


Thank you!  That was very inappropriate of Dieter to put my PERSONAL 
information out there.  I have tried numerous times to resolve this privately.




On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 12:04:49 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote: 
  It is completely forbidden to post confidential personal information 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Posting personal information on this group.

[Dieter Waechter]

HE IS NOT MY CUSTOMER for the clock electronics.
He bought the tubes and the case from me.
As i said: He is a poor liar!
Moderator PLEASE Close this thread.
Dieter

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  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Posting personal information on this group.


  I agree!!  It may have been much simpler, easier, and saved a lot of 
headaches, hassels, and bad customer feelings/relations to just have the darn 
clock sent somewhere for repair and then sent back. Especially if as indicated 
the customer has NO knowledge of electronics and it was known at the time!!  My 
two cents worth.  Ira.




  On 1/14/2017 9:37 AM, Gene Mark Segal wrote:

WOW! Such strong and repetitive language only shows that one has a reason 
to prove something. Good customer service means never putting your customers in 
a position to feel the need to reach out to the community.  



Greg has been a solid long-term customer of mine. 


Gene Segal

On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Greg P  wrote:


  Nick, 


  Thank you!  That was very inappropriate of Dieter to put my PERSONAL 
information out there.  I have tried numerous times to resolve this privately.




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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Posting personal information on this group.

[Dieter Waechter]

Moderator - please help!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg P 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Posting personal information on this group.


  I agree Genetried to resolve privately numerous times.  Thanks for the 
support.




  On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 12:37:46 PM UTC-5, Gene Segal wrote:
WOW! Such strong and repetitive language only shows that one has a reason 
to prove something. Good customer service means never putting your customers in 
a position to feel the need to reach out to the community.  



Greg has been a solid long-term customer of mine. 


Gene Segal

On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Greg P  wrote:


  Nick,


  Thank you!  That was very inappropriate of Dieter to put my PERSONAL 
information out there.  I have tried numerous times to resolve this privately.




  On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 12:04:49 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Posting personal information on this group.

[Dieter Waechter]

Gene,
I can prove that I answered all his e-mails. He is a liar.
But that all does not matter.
Moderator - please help!
Dieter



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  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Posting personal information on this group.


  WOW! Such strong and repetitive language only shows that one has a reason to 
prove something. Good customer service means never putting your customers in a 
position to feel the need to reach out to the community.  



  Greg has been a solid long-term customer of mine. 


  Gene Segal

  On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Greg P  wrote:


Nick,


Thank you!  That was very inappropriate of Dieter to put my PERSONAL 
information out there.  I have tried numerous times to resolve this privately.




On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 12:04:49 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:
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Re: [neonixie-l] Posting personal information on this group.

[Dieter Waechter]

Moderator - please help!

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  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Posting personal information on this group.


  Dieter,


  Is that a threat?  Again, your true colors are showing.




  On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 12:32:17 PM UTC-5, Nocrotec wrote:
Hi! 
The messages with the topic or content "Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Poor 
Customer Service" must all be deleted! 
I will check that on 2017-01-24. 
Dieter 


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To: "neonixie-l"  
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:04 PM 
Subject: [neonixie-l] Posting personal information on this group. 


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Re: [neonixie-l] Posting personal information on this group.

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi!
The messages with the topic or content "Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Poor 
Customer Service" must all be deleted!

I will check that on 2017-01-24.
Dieter


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To: "neonixie-l" 
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:04 PM
Subject: [neonixie-l] Posting personal information on this group.


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Posting personal information on this group.

[Dieter Waechter]

Moderator - please help!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg P 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:06 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Posting personal information on this group.


  Nick,


  Thank you!  That was very inappropriate of Dieter to put my PERSONAL 
information out there.  I have tried numerous times to resolve this privately.




  On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 12:04:49 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:
It is completely forbidden to post confidential personal information or to 
make threats on this group, or indeed anywhere - it's considered extremely poor 
netiquette and always has been. If there is a dispute between customers and 
suppliers, deal with it offline, not here - the thread has been locked and the 
personal information posts deleted.
Moderators


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Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream..... Moderator - please help!

[Dieter Waechter]

Moderator - please help!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg P 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Best Customer Service 
-- EVER!


  Dieter,


  You're acting like a baby.  Posting my name and address worthless.  I've been 
in this hobby for 10 years built many clocks and have had good dealings with 
many in this hobby.  


  My advice to you is grow up and stop acting like child.




  On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 11:39:34 AM UTC-5, Nocrotec wrote:
STP
ALL TOTAL NONSENSE!!!
PLEASE IGNORE HIS MESSAGES! DO NOT try to help! He has NO knowledge in 
electronics at all.
The glowlamps are definitely defective and I have already answered all his 
e-mails many times.

Gregory Peetros

311 Glen Ridge Rd

Havertown, Pennsylvania 19083

United States


HE IS A POOR LIAR!
HE IS A POOR LIAR! 
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HE IS A POOR LIAR!

Our customer Service ist best!
Greg Petros: I give you 10 days to delete ALL your messages here you 
know what happens if not...
Deadline ends: 2017-01-24
Much luck deleting them - can be very expensive for you!

Dieter


  - Original Message - 
  From: Instrument Resources of America 
  To: neoni...@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Poor Customer 
Service


  I have been a tech going on 60 years now, but am NOT familiar with this 
clock. I am willing to help as much as I can from here. OBVIOUSLY there is an 
explanation, and reason for this happening. You just have not unraveled it as 
yet. To begin with I must ask you a number of questions. Do you have, or have 
access to a DVM? How many digits are displayed for the TIME? How many for the 
DATE? How many in 'service mode'? My initial thoughts (GUESS) are this. The 
H.V. power supply MAY be becoming MARGINAL. Delivers enough voltage to light 
the colons in service mode and for the date, but for some reason not the time. 
What I'd like for you to do if possible is monitor the voltage to the colons, 
while switching the mode from time, to date, to service mode. Record the 
readings vs mode, and lets see if that tells us anything. You will be measuring 
H.V. so be very careful. If you do not feel comfortable doing this, have 
someone versed in H.V. measurement help you. Ira.




  On 1/14/2017 7:28 AM, Greg P wrote:



Let me start out by saying, I don't like posting negative information 
as I've found everyone here to be awesome and helpful.  After trying for the 
better part of a month to get my issue resolved PRIVATELY, I feel I need to 
share with the group.   


Approximately, 4 years ago I ordered and built the Nocrotec IN-18 Blue 
Dream and it's performed flawlessly until recently.  I noticed the lower NE-2 
neons (wired in series) in the colon towers were intermittently lighting when 
displaying the TIME only.  All other functions such as displaying date, and in 
Service Mode the lower NE-2's work just fine.  Additionally, I checked wiring 
and all connections etc. and everything is OK.


So I reached out to Dieter no less than 4 times asking for advice and 
got NO RESPONSE.  It wasn't until I emailed Claus Urbach, (the site that sells 
the IN-18 Blue Dream Kit) that I got a lukewarm excuse filled reply which was 
to replace the colon towers.  If the NE-2's were bad, why do they work in 
Service Mode and when displaying date?  


I continued to reach out to Dieter for help, and was ignored.  Dieter 
keeps using the excuse (thru Claus Urbach) there's something wrong with my 
email (trust me there's not) and pushes the blame on me.


So here I am, a clock with issues, and no support.  Claus has been 
great, but told me there's nothing more he can do.  I noticed Dieter has pulled 
the links on his site and Claus doesn't have the kit listed anymore so who 
knows what the situation is?


For those of you who were considering purchasing the IN-18 Blue Dream I 
would highly advise you don't due to poor customer service.  It's a shame, 
because it's a really nice clock.


Dieter, ball is in your court, I know you read this site, I await your 
reply.












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Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.....Best Customer Service Moderator - please help!

[Dieter Waechter]

Moderator - please help!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg P 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Best Customer Service


  Wow Dieter, you sure are acting like a child.  Seems you're trying real hard 
to discrediting and threatening me.  


  Contact me privately if you would like to resolve this.  I've given you every 
chance.





  On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 11:58:16 AM UTC-5, Nocrotec wrote:
IRA!
Please stop posting messages with a statement "Nocrotec IN-18 Blue 
Dream.Poor Customer Service"
All of them must be removed!
Dieter


  - Original Message - 
  From: Instrument Resources of America 
  To: neoni...@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Poor Customer 
Service


  It is possible that the neons DO need to be replaced, as they themselves 
may be marginal, and therefore need to be replaced. I've had to replace a lot 
of neons and nixies in my time due to a number of issues, including being 
marginal on firing voltage. Either option is easy and inexpensive.  Ira.




  On 1/14/2017 8:41 AM, Greg P wrote:

Thanks Ira...I will take your advice and report back.

On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 11:23:02 AM UTC-5, I wrote: 
  I have been a tech going on 60 years now, but am NOT familiar with 
this clock. I am willing to help as much as I can from here. OBVIOUSLY there is 
an explanation, and reason for this happening. You just have not unraveled it 
as yet. To begin with I must ask you a number of questions. Do you have, or 
have access to a DVM? How many digits are displayed for the TIME? How many for 
the DATE? How many in 'service mode'? My initial thoughts (GUESS) are this. The 
H.V. power supply MAY be becoming MARGINAL. Delivers enough voltage to light 
the colons in service mode and for the date, but for some reason not the time. 
What I'd like for you to do if possible is monitor the voltage to the colons, 
while switching the mode from time, to date, to service mode. Record the 
readings vs mode, and lets see if that tells us anything. You will be measuring 
H.V. so be very careful. If you do not feel comfortable doing this, have 
someone versed in H.V. measurement help you. Ira.




  On 1/14/2017 7:28 AM, Greg P wrote:



Let me start out by saying, I don't like posting negative 
information as I've found everyone here to be awesome and helpful.  After 
trying for the better part of a month to get my issue resolved PRIVATELY, I 
feel I need to share with the group.   


Approximately, 4 years ago I ordered and built the Nocrotec IN-18 
Blue Dream and it's performed flawlessly until recently.  I noticed the lower 
NE-2 neons (wired in series) in the colon towers were intermittently lighting 
when displaying the TIME only.  All other functions such as displaying date, 
and in Service Mode the lower NE-2's work just fine.  Additionally, I checked 
wiring and all connections etc. and everything is OK.


So I reached out to Dieter no less than 4 times asking for advice 
and got NO RESPONSE.  It wasn't until I emailed Claus Urbach, (the site that 
sells the IN-18 Blue Dream Kit) that I got a lukewarm excuse filled reply which 
was to replace the colon towers.  If the NE-2's were bad, why do they work in 
Service Mode and when displaying date?  


I continued to reach out to Dieter for help, and was ignored.  
Dieter keeps using the excuse (thru Claus Urbach) there's something wrong with 
my email (trust me there's not) and pushes the blame on me.


So here I am, a clock with issues, and no support.  Claus has been 
great, but told me there's nothing more he can do.  I noticed Dieter has pulled 
the links on his site and Claus doesn't have the kit listed anymore so who 
knows what the situation is?


For those of you who were considering purchasing the IN-18 Blue 
Dream I would highly advise you don't due to poor customer service.  It's a 
shame, because it's a really nice clock.


Dieter, ball is in your court, I know you read this site, I await 
your reply.












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Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.....Best Customer Service

[Dieter Waechter]

IRA!
Please stop posting messages with a statement "Nocrotec IN-18 Blue 
Dream.Poor Customer Service"
All of them must be removed!
Dieter


  - Original Message - 
  From: Instrument Resources of America 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Poor Customer Service


  It is possible that the neons DO need to be replaced, as they themselves may 
be marginal, and therefore need to be replaced. I've had to replace a lot of 
neons and nixies in my time due to a number of issues, including being marginal 
on firing voltage. Either option is easy and inexpensive.  Ira.




  On 1/14/2017 8:41 AM, Greg P wrote:

Thanks Ira...I will take your advice and report back.

On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 11:23:02 AM UTC-5, I wrote: 
  I have been a tech going on 60 years now, but am NOT familiar with this 
clock. I am willing to help as much as I can from here. OBVIOUSLY there is an 
explanation, and reason for this happening. You just have not unraveled it as 
yet. To begin with I must ask you a number of questions. Do you have, or have 
access to a DVM? How many digits are displayed for the TIME? How many for the 
DATE? How many in 'service mode'? My initial thoughts (GUESS) are this. The 
H.V. power supply MAY be becoming MARGINAL. Delivers enough voltage to light 
the colons in service mode and for the date, but for some reason not the time. 
What I'd like for you to do if possible is monitor the voltage to the colons, 
while switching the mode from time, to date, to service mode. Record the 
readings vs mode, and lets see if that tells us anything. You will be measuring 
H.V. so be very careful. If you do not feel comfortable doing this, have 
someone versed in H.V. measurement help you. Ira.




  On 1/14/2017 7:28 AM, Greg P wrote:



Let me start out by saying, I don't like posting negative information 
as I've found everyone here to be awesome and helpful.  After trying for the 
better part of a month to get my issue resolved PRIVATELY, I feel I need to 
share with the group.   


Approximately, 4 years ago I ordered and built the Nocrotec IN-18 Blue 
Dream and it's performed flawlessly until recently.  I noticed the lower NE-2 
neons (wired in series) in the colon towers were intermittently lighting when 
displaying the TIME only.  All other functions such as displaying date, and in 
Service Mode the lower NE-2's work just fine.  Additionally, I checked wiring 
and all connections etc. and everything is OK.


So I reached out to Dieter no less than 4 times asking for advice and 
got NO RESPONSE.  It wasn't until I emailed Claus Urbach, (the site that sells 
the IN-18 Blue Dream Kit) that I got a lukewarm excuse filled reply which was 
to replace the colon towers.  If the NE-2's were bad, why do they work in 
Service Mode and when displaying date?  


I continued to reach out to Dieter for help, and was ignored.  Dieter 
keeps using the excuse (thru Claus Urbach) there's something wrong with my 
email (trust me there's not) and pushes the blame on me.


So here I am, a clock with issues, and no support.  Claus has been 
great, but told me there's nothing more he can do.  I noticed Dieter has pulled 
the links on his site and Claus doesn't have the kit listed anymore so who 
knows what the situation is?


For those of you who were considering purchasing the IN-18 Blue Dream I 
would highly advise you don't due to poor customer service.  It's a shame, 
because it's a really nice clock.


Dieter, ball is in your court, I know you read this site, I await your 
reply.












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Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.....Poor Customer Service

[Dieter Waechter]

One message more to delete!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg P 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Poor Customer Service


  Thanks Ira...I will take your advice and report back.

  On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 11:23:02 AM UTC-5, I wrote:
I have been a tech going on 60 years now, but am NOT familiar with this 
clock. I am willing to help as much as I can from here. OBVIOUSLY there is an 
explanation, and reason for this happening. You just have not unraveled it as 
yet. To begin with I must ask you a number of questions. Do you have, or have 
access to a DVM? How many digits are displayed for the TIME? How many for the 
DATE? How many in 'service mode'? My initial thoughts (GUESS) are this. The 
H.V. power supply MAY be becoming MARGINAL. Delivers enough voltage to light 
the colons in service mode and for the date, but for some reason not the time. 
What I'd like for you to do if possible is monitor the voltage to the colons, 
while switching the mode from time, to date, to service mode. Record the 
readings vs mode, and lets see if that tells us anything. You will be measuring 
H.V. so be very careful. If you do not feel comfortable doing this, have 
someone versed in H.V. measurement help you. Ira.




On 1/14/2017 7:28 AM, Greg P wrote:



  Let me start out by saying, I don't like posting negative information as 
I've found everyone here to be awesome and helpful.  After trying for the 
better part of a month to get my issue resolved PRIVATELY, I feel I need to 
share with the group.   


  Approximately, 4 years ago I ordered and built the Nocrotec IN-18 Blue 
Dream and it's performed flawlessly until recently.  I noticed the lower NE-2 
neons (wired in series) in the colon towers were intermittently lighting when 
displaying the TIME only.  All other functions such as displaying date, and in 
Service Mode the lower NE-2's work just fine.  Additionally, I checked wiring 
and all connections etc. and everything is OK.


  So I reached out to Dieter no less than 4 times asking for advice and got 
NO RESPONSE.  It wasn't until I emailed Claus Urbach, (the site that sells the 
IN-18 Blue Dream Kit) that I got a lukewarm excuse filled reply which was to 
replace the colon towers.  If the NE-2's were bad, why do they work in Service 
Mode and when displaying date?  


  I continued to reach out to Dieter for help, and was ignored.  Dieter 
keeps using the excuse (thru Claus Urbach) there's something wrong with my 
email (trust me there's not) and pushes the blame on me.


  So here I am, a clock with issues, and no support.  Claus has been great, 
but told me there's nothing more he can do.  I noticed Dieter has pulled the 
links on his site and Claus doesn't have the kit listed anymore so who knows 
what the situation is?


  For those of you who were considering purchasing the IN-18 Blue Dream I 
would highly advise you don't due to poor customer service.  It's a shame, 
because it's a really nice clock.


  Dieter, ball is in your court, I know you read this site, I await your 
reply.












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Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.....Poor Customer Service

[Dieter Waechter]

One more message to delete!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg P 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Poor Customer Service


  Dieter,


  I beg to differ.  I'm not going to argue with you in a public forum.  I tried 
to communicate privately.  There's nothing wrong with my email.



  On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 11:09:55 AM UTC-5, Nocrotec wrote:
Hi to all,
These are all lies.
I answered all his e-mails, but he always told my partner that I did not 
respond.
Ther is nothing more to say.
All the best
Dieter

  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg P 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 4:28 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Poor Customer Service




  Let me start out by saying, I don't like posting negative information as 
I've found everyone here to be awesome and helpful.  After trying for the 
better part of a month to get my issue resolved PRIVATELY, I feel I need to 
share with the group.   


  Approximately, 4 years ago I ordered and built the Nocrotec IN-18 Blue 
Dream and it's performed flawlessly until recently.  I noticed the lower NE-2 
neons (wired in series) in the colon towers were intermittently lighting when 
displaying the TIME only.  All other functions such as displaying date, and in 
Service Mode the lower NE-2's work just fine.  Additionally, I checked wiring 
and all connections etc. and everything is OK.


  So I reached out to Dieter no less than 4 times asking for advice and got 
NO RESPONSE.  It wasn't until I emailed Claus Urbach, (the site that sells the 
IN-18 Blue Dream Kit) that I got a lukewarm excuse filled reply which was to 
replace the colon towers.  If the NE-2's were bad, why do they work in Service 
Mode and when displaying date?  


  I continued to reach out to Dieter for help, and was ignored.  Dieter 
keeps using the excuse (thru Claus Urbach) there's something wrong with my 
email (trust me there's not) and pushes the blame on me.


  So here I am, a clock with issues, and no support.  Claus has been great, 
but told me there's nothing more he can do.  I noticed Dieter has pulled the 
links on his site and Claus doesn't have the kit listed anymore so who knows 
what the situation is?


  For those of you who were considering purchasing the IN-18 Blue Dream I 
would highly advise you don't due to poor customer service.  It's a shame, 
because it's a really nice clock.


  Dieter, ball is in your court, I know you read this site, I await your 
reply.













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Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.....Poor Customer Service

[Dieter Waechter]

One more message to delete!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg P 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Poor Customer Service


  Dieter,


  I beg to differ.  I'm not going to argue with you in a public forum.  I tried 
to communicate privately.  There's nothing wrong with my email.

  On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 11:09:55 AM UTC-5, Nocrotec wrote:
Hi to all,
These are all lies.
I answered all his e-mails, but he always told my partner that I did not 
respond.
Ther is nothing more to say.
All the best
Dieter

  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg P 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 4:28 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Poor Customer Service




  Let me start out by saying, I don't like posting negative information as 
I've found everyone here to be awesome and helpful.  After trying for the 
better part of a month to get my issue resolved PRIVATELY, I feel I need to 
share with the group.   


  Approximately, 4 years ago I ordered and built the Nocrotec IN-18 Blue 
Dream and it's performed flawlessly until recently.  I noticed the lower NE-2 
neons (wired in series) in the colon towers were intermittently lighting when 
displaying the TIME only.  All other functions such as displaying date, and in 
Service Mode the lower NE-2's work just fine.  Additionally, I checked wiring 
and all connections etc. and everything is OK.


  So I reached out to Dieter no less than 4 times asking for advice and got 
NO RESPONSE.  It wasn't until I emailed Claus Urbach, (the site that sells the 
IN-18 Blue Dream Kit) that I got a lukewarm excuse filled reply which was to 
replace the colon towers.  If the NE-2's were bad, why do they work in Service 
Mode and when displaying date?  


  I continued to reach out to Dieter for help, and was ignored.  Dieter 
keeps using the excuse (thru Claus Urbach) there's something wrong with my 
email (trust me there's not) and pushes the blame on me.


  So here I am, a clock with issues, and no support.  Claus has been great, 
but told me there's nothing more he can do.  I noticed Dieter has pulled the 
links on his site and Claus doesn't have the kit listed anymore so who knows 
what the situation is?


  For those of you who were considering purchasing the IN-18 Blue Dream I 
would highly advise you don't due to poor customer service.  It's a shame, 
because it's a really nice clock.


  Dieter, ball is in your court, I know you read this site, I await your 
reply.













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Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.....Best Customer Service -- EVER!

[Dieter Waechter]

STP
ALL TOTAL NONSENSE!!!
PLEASE IGNORE HIS MESSAGES! DO NOT try to help! He has NO knowledge in 
electronics at all.
The glowlamps are definitely defective and I have already answered all his 
e-mails many times.

Gregory Peetros

311 Glen Ridge Rd

Havertown, Pennsylvania 19083

United States


HE IS A POOR LIAR!
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Our customer Service ist best!
Greg Petros: I give you 10 days to delete ALL your messages here you know 
what happens if not...
Deadline ends: 2017-01-24
Much luck deleting them - can be very expensive for you!

Dieter


  - Original Message - 
  From: Instrument Resources of America 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Poor Customer Service


  I have been a tech going on 60 years now, but am NOT familiar with this 
clock. I am willing to help as much as I can from here. OBVIOUSLY there is an 
explanation, and reason for this happening. You just have not unraveled it as 
yet. To begin with I must ask you a number of questions. Do you have, or have 
access to a DVM? How many digits are displayed for the TIME? How many for the 
DATE? How many in 'service mode'? My initial thoughts (GUESS) are this. The 
H.V. power supply MAY be becoming MARGINAL. Delivers enough voltage to light 
the colons in service mode and for the date, but for some reason not the time. 
What I'd like for you to do if possible is monitor the voltage to the colons, 
while switching the mode from time, to date, to service mode. Record the 
readings vs mode, and lets see if that tells us anything. You will be measuring 
H.V. so be very careful. If you do not feel comfortable doing this, have 
someone versed in H.V. measurement help you. Ira.




  On 1/14/2017 7:28 AM, Greg P wrote:



Let me start out by saying, I don't like posting negative information as 
I've found everyone here to be awesome and helpful.  After trying for the 
better part of a month to get my issue resolved PRIVATELY, I feel I need to 
share with the group.   


Approximately, 4 years ago I ordered and built the Nocrotec IN-18 Blue 
Dream and it's performed flawlessly until recently.  I noticed the lower NE-2 
neons (wired in series) in the colon towers were intermittently lighting when 
displaying the TIME only.  All other functions such as displaying date, and in 
Service Mode the lower NE-2's work just fine.  Additionally, I checked wiring 
and all connections etc. and everything is OK.


So I reached out to Dieter no less than 4 times asking for advice and got 
NO RESPONSE.  It wasn't until I emailed Claus Urbach, (the site that sells the 
IN-18 Blue Dream Kit) that I got a lukewarm excuse filled reply which was to 
replace the colon towers.  If the NE-2's were bad, why do they work in Service 
Mode and when displaying date?  


I continued to reach out to Dieter for help, and was ignored.  Dieter keeps 
using the excuse (thru Claus Urbach) there's something wrong with my email 
(trust me there's not) and pushes the blame on me.


So here I am, a clock with issues, and no support.  Claus has been great, 
but told me there's nothing more he can do.  I noticed Dieter has pulled the 
links on his site and Claus doesn't have the kit listed anymore so who knows 
what the situation is?


For those of you who were considering purchasing the IN-18 Blue Dream I 
would highly advise you don't due to poor customer service.  It's a shame, 
because it's a really nice clock.


Dieter, ball is in your court, I know you read this site, I await your 
reply.












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Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.....Poor Customer Service

[Dieter Waechter]

All nonsense.
Please ignore his messages.
Dieter

  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg P 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 4:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Poor Customer Service


  Dan,


  I probably will.  The part that aggravates me, is the being ignored then 
making excuses.  If he doesn't want to support the product anymore, just tell 
me.  I'd be OK with it.




  On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 10:37:35 AM UTC-5, bani wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017, Greg P wrote: 
> So I reached out to Dieter no less than 4 times asking for advice and got 
*NO 
> RESPONSE.  *It wasn't until I emailed Claus Urbach, (the site that sells 
> the IN-18 Blue Dream Kit) that I got a lukewarm excuse filled reply which 
> was to replace the colon towers.  If the NE-2's were bad, why do they 
work 
> in Service Mode and when displaying date? 

How about humoring them and replacing them to see what happens? What have 
you got to lose at this point? 

-Dan 


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Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.....Poor Customer Service

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi to all,
These are all lies.
I answered all his e-mails, but he always told my partner that I did not 
respond.
Ther is nothing more to say.
All the best
Dieter

  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg P 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 4:28 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Poor Customer Service




  Let me start out by saying, I don't like posting negative information as I've 
found everyone here to be awesome and helpful.  After trying for the better 
part of a month to get my issue resolved PRIVATELY, I feel I need to share with 
the group.  


  Approximately, 4 years ago I ordered and built the Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream 
and it's performed flawlessly until recently.  I noticed the lower NE-2 neons 
(wired in series) in the colon towers were intermittently lighting when 
displaying the TIME only.  All other functions such as displaying date, and in 
Service Mode the lower NE-2's work just fine.  Additionally, I checked wiring 
and all connections etc. and everything is OK.


  So I reached out to Dieter no less than 4 times asking for advice and got NO 
RESPONSE.  It wasn't until I emailed Claus Urbach, (the site that sells the 
IN-18 Blue Dream Kit) that I got a lukewarm excuse filled reply which was to 
replace the colon towers.  If the NE-2's were bad, why do they work in Service 
Mode and when displaying date?  


  I continued to reach out to Dieter for help, and was ignored.  Dieter keeps 
using the excuse (thru Claus Urbach) there's something wrong with my email 
(trust me there's not) and pushes the blame on me.


  So here I am, a clock with issues, and no support.  Claus has been great, but 
told me there's nothing more he can do.  I noticed Dieter has pulled the links 
on his site and Claus doesn't have the kit listed anymore so who knows what the 
situation is?


  For those of you who were considering purchasing the IN-18 Blue Dream I would 
highly advise you don't due to poor customer service.  It's a shame, because 
it's a really nice clock.


  Dieter, ball is in your court, I know you read this site, I await your reply.













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Re: [neonixie-l] Unusual ZM1040 Tube

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi!
That's a wrong labeled ZZ1040.
Dieter
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Parry 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 9:43 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Unusual ZM1040 Tube


  Hi All,


  Saw some of these ZM1040 tubes for sale, and I have no idea what they are, 
definitely not Nixies though - any ideas..


  Hoping you can shed some light. It has 9 pins and is internally silvered - 
possibly a rectifier?


  Cheers,
  Paul









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Re: [neonixie-l] Looky what I found !

[Dieter Waechter]

;-)
When I took those pictures, they looked a bit different.
Dieter


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To: neonixie-l 
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 7:06 PM

Subject: [neonixie-l] Looky what I found !



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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Rant: Shipping to Germany

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi!
I receive hundreds of packages from USA a year and nearly never had a 
problem with the customs or transit time.
The packages hang at the airport in USA from time to time because of the 
security checks (elecronics seem to look like a bomb sometime).
But it is impossible that they hang in the German customs since German 
receivers MUST collect tehm within 10 days.

So anything must be wrong in this discussion.
BUT: Shipping to USA from Germany can be a big big problem.
This is a) also because of the security checks at the German airport (only 
with packages to the USA) and b) because of the mail in USA from the airoprt 
to the receiver can take extremely long. Longer than in most countries.

Dieter


- Original Message - 
From: "David Forbes" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Rant: Shipping to Germany


I've mailed hundreds of Nixie watches all over the world for many years. I 
use FedEx. They are expensive, but it seems to just work. Even to Germany. 
The only place I have trouble is Russia, but they have begun to refuse any 
international shipment to a residential address whatsoever.


The FedEx shipping website creates a commercial invoice that goes outside 
the box in a pouch (4 signed copies), using a web form on which I fill out 
the customs value info. I tell my customers in advance that I won't lie 
about the value on the customs report to save them money. If they don't 
like it, too bad. It's the law.


I provide the six-digit HS tariff numbers for Nixie watches (910212) and 
Nixie tubes (854089). Look up the tariff number for your gizmo and write 
it in there! This lets them know that you're a seasoned professional 
shipper who doesn't need to be hassled.




On 11/29/15 9:27 AM, 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l wrote:
I may be answering my own question (rant). I found this discussion at 
Etsy:


https://www.etsy.com/teams/7722/discussions/discuss/11913364/

Seems German Customs needs to see an invoice accessible from the outside. 
I

tend not to ship any paperwork. Only the required Customs Declaration
pasted on the box. I think I'll have to invest in these:





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[neonixie-l] damo454 --> WARNIGN! new potential cheater at Ebay

[Dieter Waechter]

Dear Nixie friends,
I have to report a new Ebay member from Australia as a potential cheater.

Data:
Ebay user name: damo454
Adress:
Damien  Tonks
34 Keith Parade
Beaconsfield, Victoria 3807
Australia
e-mail: damo...@hotmail.com

His trick:
He sells Nixie tubes at Ebay, offers air parcel post only.
After you have paid, you will note that the package does not arrive at the 
date he tells you (for sea mail parcel).
Then he tells you a wrong tracking number for letter mail (not pacel post) 
which does not work.
Then he tells you that you have choosen sea mail and it will take "3 
months"(!) to receive tha package.

He also tells this lies at the Paypal claim.
You know: after 3 months you have no chance to start a Paypal claim and you 
have lost your money.
We have had luck, we and Paypal checked the trick and they refunded our 
money.

So take care.
Do not buy from him.
All the best
Dieter 


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Re: [neonixie-l] The answer is a lemon

[Dieter Waechter]

Look also here:
http://www.nbtv.wyenet.co.uk/conv04.htm
Dieter
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tidak Ada 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 12:27 PM
  Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] The answer is a lemon


  Never heard about the neon lamps used in early mechanical television? The 
neon lamp (Neontron®) was used as a light source behind the Nipkow disc. I was 
in the local museum in Hastings (UK), where  I saw that Bayrd TV-machine, that 
should have also one. But unfortunantely the lamp missed, ashame!

  http://lampes-et-tubes.info/dlgl/dl195.php?l=e

  Wiki:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Logie_Baird

  eric



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  Sent: zondag 8 maart 2015 11:05
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  Subject: [neonixie-l] The answer is a lemon


  Looking through the Television Journal of November 1934, I came across this 
advertisement.  





  'May be used in place of any existing Neon Lamp without alteration' caught my 
eye. I guess that is in the context of a 1934 telly.


  John S

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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixichron

[Dieter Waechter]

sent by mail
Dieter
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  From: Nicholas Stock 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 5:40 AM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Nixichron


  Hi Folks. Does anybody have a schematic of Jeff's nixichron? I have the 
owners manual etc with my clock, but no schematic...


  Thanks,


  Nick

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Re: [neonixie-l] Crazy nixie hater

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi!
That idiot bought that clock from me.
It was the V300 series in 2004.
Dieter

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  Subject: [neonixie-l] Crazy nixie hater


  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8fCdExID8Q&NR this is awful :(

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Re: [neonixie-l] Question on Z5660M Tubes- What kind of gas and age survival?

[Dieter Waechter]

Thanks, I understand. Well I don't have a very high voltage in the Clocks... 
but it is a method - yes.

Dieter

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From: "David Forbes" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Question on Z5660M Tubes- What kind of gas and age 
survival?




Dieter,

Another idea is to use a decimal point, if the tube has one, as a 
secondary anode for a very high voltage trigger pulse. This would work 
similar to the xenon flash tubes in cameras.



On 6/9/14 8:56 AM, Dieter Waechter wrote:
You all surely know the problem, that if a standard Nixie tube is off for 
a longer time, say 1 hour, and switched on at night, it takes some time 
(0.1 ... 3 seconds) until the glowing comes up.

Does anyone know a method to speed up the ignition in this condition?
I have found out that:
- higher voltage does not make a change
- higher target current does not make a change
- slew rate of the switch (means a sharp pulse) does not make a change
It looks like nothing helps to make it glow immediately.
All the best
Dieter


   - Original Message -
   From: John Rehwinkel
   To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 5:37 PM
   Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Question on Z5660M Tubes- What kind of gas 
and age survival?



 I don't think there would be any need to add helium, hydrogen, or 
even krypton-85 to *indicator* tubes.




   Helium and hydrogen no, but some 5092s had Kr85 for rapid ionization 
for multiplexed use. Discussion on this list from 2010:



   https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/neonixie-l/cKkyRyaGOGI


   - John




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Re: [neonixie-l] Question on Z5660M Tubes- What kind of gas and age survival?

[Dieter Waechter]

Thank you David,
At my clocks with blue floor lighting the blue LEDs are on, but tubes stay 
off.
So blue LEDs do not help I think (I remember the electron volts are too low, 
am I right?)
I think I have some IR-LEDs laying around and test that this night to see 
what happens.

Dieter


- Original Message - 
From: "David Forbes" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Question on Z5660M Tubes- What kind of gas and age 
survival?




Dieter,

It needs a trigger event to start some ionization. I think that a blue or 
UV LED will do the trick. Have not tried this myself.



On 6/9/14 8:56 AM, Dieter Waechter wrote:
You all surely know the problem, that if a standard Nixie tube is off for 
a longer time, say 1 hour, and switched on at night, it takes some time 
(0.1 ... 3 seconds) until the glowing comes up.

Does anyone know a method to speed up the ignition in this condition?
I have found out that:
- higher voltage does not make a change
- higher target current does not make a change
- slew rate of the switch (means a sharp pulse) does not make a change
It looks like nothing helps to make it glow immediately.
All the best
Dieter




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Re: [neonixie-l] Question on Z5660M Tubes- What kind of gas and age survival?

[Dieter Waechter]

You all surely know the problem, that if a standard Nixie tube is off for a 
longer time, say 1 hour, and switched on at night, it takes some time (0.1 ... 
3 seconds) until the glowing comes up.
Does anyone know a method to speed up the ignition in this condition?
I have found out that:
- higher voltage does not make a change
- higher target current does not make a change
- slew rate of the switch (means a sharp pulse) does not make a change
It looks like nothing helps to make it glow immediately.
All the best
Dieter


  - Original Message - 
  From: John Rehwinkel 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 5:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Question on Z5660M Tubes- What kind of gas and age 
survival?


I don't think there would be any need to add helium, hydrogen, or even 
krypton-85 to *indicator* tubes.



  Helium and hydrogen no, but some 5092s had Kr85 for rapid ionization for 
multiplexed use. Discussion on this list from 2010:


  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/neonixie-l/cKkyRyaGOGI


  - John

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Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 versus Z5660M Nixie Tubes

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi!


do You have more information about "sputtering windows"? I hear it for
the first time. I know that any hole significantly bigger then anode
screen holes let the sputtered particles to go through and deposit on
the glass


Yes, that's it.
See my first picture here:
http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/data/in18.htm
There you see the sputtering windows very good.
And these avoid darkening on the front of the tubes as you already wrote.
That's all.


Can You compare deposit of mercury doped IN-18 and non-doped IN-18
after years of usage?


All of these have been doped. All have giver pills. all have getters.
I think the amount of mercury is the same aswell since all show the same 
bluespot ghost light with low Vkk.
MAYBE that means: They probably have changed the gas mixture. Not sure if I 
am right with this thought.

But I did not care about that so much.
Dieter

PS: For all people of the group who wrote me and I did not answer: I'm very 
sorry, at the moment I have no time to work on Nixie projects - I build a 
house at the moment so very very little spare time.




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Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 versus Z5660M Nixie Tubes

[Dieter Waechter]

HI!
Yes, Nick ;-)
I'm already in contact with Darin.
I would say:
IN-18 and Z5660M are both wonderful and perfect Nixie tubes.
I like the IN-18 more - these are the best ever made (in my opinion).
And  they nearly last forever.
Yes, the older tubes before 1989 need a longer CP prevention. But they are also 
very very very good.
I have some running for about 10 years in continuous operation, and they are 
still bright as at the first day.
The reason is because they have sputtering windows. And the sputtering windows 
of the 10 year old tubes are heavily mirrored already.
Unfortunately my stock of high datecode tubes runs out soon.
All the best
Dieter


  - Original Message - 
  From: Nicholas Stock 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 9:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 versus Z5660M Nixie Tubes


  Yep, the IN-18's have date stamps. You'll probably pay a little more for 
those that are date coded in the late 80's early nineties...I think the 
'youngest' IN-18's I've seen is 1992 and the oldest 1974. Apart from the Hg 
doping in the later date codes (no idea when that started), there's really no 
difference that I can tell...others on this list (Dieter!) will know a lot more 
about that...


  There are some good kits out there for the larger tubes. PM me if you want 
any recommendations.


  Nick



  On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Dman777  wrote:

I was going to buy a kit for sure, I don't have the tools or room(1 room 
efficiency apt) to build one from scratch. 


I spoke to this one guy and he said that he had more failures with the 
IN-18 than the Z566, so that is why I asked question #3. 


Also, this other person told me that IN-18 have date stamps on the back of 
the tubes. Is this true? Seems like a good way to verify the date if I bought a 
IN-18. 


Thanks,
-Darin


On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:39:19 PM UTC-5, Pramanicin wrote:
  Ooh...that'll open up some discussion.


  Here's my 2 cents having built clocks with both of them.


  The IN-18's are larger but not by too much and have more elongated 
numerals. They are also a little cheaper than the Z5660M as far as I can see at 
the moment, but still around 35 to 40 dollars a tube! The Z566/5660M are a 
little rarer and some would argue that the digit shape is more aesthetically 
pleasing. With regards to failure, I've had more issues with Z566's than 
IN-18's but I don't think there's any significant difference between the two. I 
think the datasheet for IN-18's says 5 or 10,000 hrs lifetime, but I've ran 
tubes for a lot longer than that without any sign of degradation (make sure the 
clock you use has some form of cathode poisoning prevention, digit cycling etc).


  Were you buying a kit to put these in or building a clock from scratch?


  Nick



  On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Dman777  wrote:



I am trying to decide between Z5660M and IN-18 tubes. I am new to all 
this and I was wondering if I could get some opinions, please:


1) I see by the measurements the size difference isn't very 
significant. Which are considered more attractive? And why?
2) Which are considered more rare/hard to find?
3) Are the Z5660M less prone to failure? 

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: V400 carnage

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi,
Already answered directly. ;-)
Dieter

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  Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 1:28 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: V400 carnage



Its almost as if the V400 never existed! There is now almost nothing about 
it on the web - ISTR it was released in about 2006 - Dieter replaced it with 
the V600 series in about 2009...


  I still think the best bet is to ask him...


  Cheers


  Nick 

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[neonixie-l] New Nixie Tube Cheater!

[Dieter Waechter]

Atterntion!
There is a new cheater around who buys parts for Nixie Clocks, pays by 
Paypal and then starts a claim without a reason.


His e-mail address: kol...@pochta.ru

His address:
Nikolay Derevyashkin
Bajenova 26-3
Ryazan
Ryazanskaya
390035
Russian Federation

We already have added him to all Blacklists.
Be careful!
All the best
Dieter 


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: New power supply design

[Dieter Waechter]

That's really good! Well done!
When will these be available, maybe we can use it for another revision of 
the IN-18 clock?

Do you have an efficiency curve for 12V input already?
And what is the temperature rise at 12V in / 6.3 Watts out without 
additional cooling?
And not to forget: Is it 100% noiseless at all load conditions? (that's the 
most important point for us)
I remember I tested some of your old modules (forgot the number(s)) and 
these were very noisy.

Thanks
Dieter


Thermal potting on the 1475 is to remove 10W of heat, while delivering 
100W at 150-300V out in a 25.4x25.4x13mm package.  My price target is 
currently $25.


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[neonixie-l] New power supply

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi Nixie friends,
Yan's new Nixie power supply NCH6100HV is available now.
Approx. 10 Watts out without thermal potting at nice small dimensions 
37x45x15 mm.

Very low price of $18 plus worldwide shipping for $6...
Works noiseless and reliable. Will be used in coming Nixie Clock projects.
It is great - Have fun!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281160724137
Dieter 


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Re: [neonixie-l] Mystery Nixie...

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi!
95% sure sure a XN3.
Dieter
  - Original Message - 
  From: Nicholas Stock 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:36 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Mystery Nixie...


  Can anyone help me with identifying this tube? It's similar in size to an 
XN-11, no markings on the back, coloured wire leads...looking at the bottom of 
the tube with the digits facing towards you the anode is at 11' o'clock and the 
digits go from 9 to 0 clockwise until there's a final gap between 0 and the 
anode at about 10 o'clock... 


  Any info would be greatly appreciated!


  Thanks,


  Nick

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[neonixie-l] Nixie Mommoth - Nixie Clock Power Supply

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi Friends!
Available now...
http://www.nocrotec.com/shop/product_info.php/language/en/info/p224_Nixie-Mammoth---The-Ultimate-Nixie-Clock-Power-Supply.html
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: ZM1251

[Dieter Waechter]

Oh, I work the whole day with tubes already ;-)

Am 12.07.2013 10:32, schrieb Dekatron42:

Dieter, you will just have to shift your focus to what is important in
life - tubes ;)
/Martin
On Friday, 12 July 2013 09:19:47 UTC+2, Nocrotec wrote:

Hi,
yes will do..
I have many many more interesting tubes...
And so little time.
Dieter

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: ZM1251

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi,
yes will do..
I have many many more interesting tubes...
And so little time.
Dieter

Am 11.07.2013 23:19, schrieb kay486:

Nice and very interesting piece. It seems like the ZM1251 is just a
version with two decimal points. I wonder if those tubes had long life.
Maybe you could upload this tube to your site with more photos (when you
have time ofcrouse) as you do with normal nixie tubes.

On Thursday, 11 July 2013 21:00:51 UTC+1, Nocrotec wrote:

HI!
These are great tubes. Quick shots attached.
More follows when I have time.
Dieter


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To: neoni...@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:23 PM
Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: ZM1251


Mullard supposedly manufactured the ZM1251 and published this short
form
data found in the picture below:


Mullard also published a brochure called "Numeric and alphanumeric
display
using the zm1251 dot matrix display tube" which is referred to in
United
Trade Press, 1973 - Biomedical engineering page 541 (information
found at
Google books).

/Martin
On Wednesday, 10 July 2013 02:10:22 UTC+2, kay486 wrote:
Hello, does anybody seen this ZM1251 thing? Is it really nixie tube?
I would
love to see any info.

http://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_zm1251.html


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[neonixie-l] Nixie Tube Pin Straightener now available!

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi Nixie Fans!
The Nocrotec Nixie Tube Pin Straightener is now available!

Check it:
http://www.nocrotec.com/shop/product_info.php/language/en/info/p218_Nocrotec-Nixie-Tube-Pin-Straightener.html

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: One Z568M NIB for sale with problem

[Dieter Waechter]

HI!
Yes, I know, but it is already sold.
Note that it is not my tube and not my price and I only sold it for a friend 
without internet.
Dieter
  - Original Message - 
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  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 2:23 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: One Z568M NIB for sale with problem


  No disrespect Dieter, but the world must have gone mad :)


  225 euros is close to the price for a fully working one - why would you pay 
that sort money for one that already has problems and may well develop others?


  Ho, hum...

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Re: [neonixie-l] One Z568M NIB for sale with problem

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi David,
Yes, that would work, if the clock has no menu where it would be lit longer.
Dieter

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To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 6:16 AM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] One Z568M NIB for sale with problem



On 3/8/13 3:44 PM, Dieter Waechter wrote:

HI!
A friend has a NIB Z568M for sale.
It is new and unused and in original box, but it has a problem.
tube works perfectly, but when cathode 1 is lit for some seconds or
minutes, it bends a bit (because of the heat) and slightly touches the
8. Then 1 and 8 are lit together.
I don't need it, so I ask the group if anyone wants it.
He wants 225 EUR net plus shipping paid by Paypal. Wordwide registered
letter mail is 6 EUR.
If anyone is interested, let me know.
Can send pictues.
Dieter




Will it work as the seconds digit, which only is lit for one second at a 
time?




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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: One Z568M NIB for sale with problem

[Dieter Waechter]

;-)
Will send them if anyone is interested to buy and I make those pictures.
Dieter
  - Original Message - 
  From: kay486 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 11:50 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: One Z568M NIB for sale with problem


  I would be interested in just the pictures :D

  On Friday, 8 March 2013 22:44:10 UTC, Nocrotec wrote:
HI! 
A friend has a NIB Z568M for sale. 
It is new and unused and in original box, but it has a problem. 
tube works perfectly, but when cathode 1 is lit for some seconds or 
minutes, 
it bends a bit (because of the heat) and slightly touches the 8. Then 1 and 
8 are lit together. 
I don't need it, so I ask the group if anyone wants it. 
He wants 225 EUR net plus shipping paid by Paypal. Wordwide registered 
letter mail is 6 EUR. 
If anyone is interested, let me know. 
Can send pictues. 
Dieter 

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[neonixie-l] One Z568M NIB for sale with problem

[Dieter Waechter]

HI!
A friend has a NIB Z568M for sale.
It is new and unused and in original box, but it has a problem.
tube works perfectly, but when cathode 1 is lit for some seconds or minutes, 
it bends a bit (because of the heat) and slightly touches the 8. Then 1 and 
8 are lit together.

I don't need it, so I ask the group if anyone wants it.
He wants 225 EUR net plus shipping paid by Paypal. Wordwide registered 
letter mail is 6 EUR.

If anyone is interested, let me know.
Can send pictues.
Dieter


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Re: [neonixie-l] NL7094 is a myth!

[Dieter Waechter]

More?
http://www.jb-electronics.de/html/elektronik/nixies/n_nl7094.htm
Dieter
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dieter Waechter 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:47 AM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] NL7094 is a myth!


  Then Jens is a good photo editor ;-))
  http://www.jb-electronics.de/html/elektronik/nixies/n_b7094.htm
  Dieter

- Original Message - 
From: MichaelB 
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] NL7094 is a myth!


PICTURES!! Yeah, I've seen picturesstill think they're vaporware

On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:37:37 PM UTC-8, Nocrotec wrote: 
  HI!
  Well, but I'm sorry, I don't have any ;-(
  This picture was not mine
  Dieter
- Original Message - 
From: MichaelB 
To: neoni...@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] NL7094 is a myth!


Ahaa!!! That's where they are Dieter's got them all!!! Should've 
known! Send me an email Dieter..if you feel you JUST don't have room for 6 of 
those big 'ole nasty things anymore.

On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:23:52 PM UTC-8, Nocrotec wrote: 
  They exist and they glow nice! ;-)
  (attached)

- Original Message - 
From: MichaelB 
To: neoni...@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:57 AM
Subject: [neonixie-l] NL7094 is a myth!


OK, so this hobby has been an obsession of mine for about 8 years 
now (no where near as long as many on this forum), but I have YET to see a 7094 
available, anywhere! All the other rare Nixie's pop up from time to time, CD 
47, F9020AA, etc., but never the Burroughs 7094, that I have seen. Is it that 
there weren't that many of these manufactured or is somebody hoarding these 
monsters? Any thoughts from the old nixie-salts who MUST have seen some of 
these out there in the past? And I swear..they don't exist!! 

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Re: [neonixie-l] NL7094 is a myth!

[Dieter Waechter]

Then Jens is a good photo editor ;-))
http://www.jb-electronics.de/html/elektronik/nixies/n_b7094.htm
Dieter

  - Original Message - 
  From: MichaelB 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:40 AM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] NL7094 is a myth!


  PICTURES!! Yeah, I've seen picturesstill think they're vaporware

  On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:37:37 PM UTC-8, Nocrotec wrote:
HI!
Well, but I'm sorry, I don't have any ;-(
This picture was not mine
Dieter
  - Original Message - 
  From: MichaelB 
  To: neoni...@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] NL7094 is a myth!


  Ahaa!!! That's where they are Dieter's got them all!!! Should've 
known! Send me an email Dieter..if you feel you JUST don't have room for 6 of 
those big 'ole nasty things anymore.

  On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:23:52 PM UTC-8, Nocrotec wrote: 
They exist and they glow nice! ;-)
(attached)

  - Original Message - 
  From: MichaelB 
  To: neoni...@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:57 AM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] NL7094 is a myth!


  OK, so this hobby has been an obsession of mine for about 8 years now 
(no where near as long as many on this forum), but I have YET to see a 7094 
available, anywhere! All the other rare Nixie's pop up from time to time, CD 
47, F9020AA, etc., but never the Burroughs 7094, that I have seen. Is it that 
there weren't that many of these manufactured or is somebody hoarding these 
monsters? Any thoughts from the old nixie-salts who MUST have seen some of 
these out there in the past? And I swear..they don't exist!! 

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Re: [neonixie-l] NL7094 is a myth!

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HI!
Well, but I'm sorry, I don't have any ;-(
This picture was not mine
Dieter
  - Original Message - 
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  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] NL7094 is a myth!


  Ahaa!!! That's where they are Dieter's got them all!!! Should've known! 
Send me an email Dieter..if you feel you JUST don't have room for 6 of those 
big 'ole nasty things anymore.

  On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:23:52 PM UTC-8, Nocrotec wrote:
They exist and they glow nice! ;-)
(attached)

  - Original Message - 
  From: MichaelB 
  To: neoni...@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:57 AM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] NL7094 is a myth!


  OK, so this hobby has been an obsession of mine for about 8 years now (no 
where near as long as many on this forum), but I have YET to see a 7094 
available, anywhere! All the other rare Nixie's pop up from time to time, CD 
47, F9020AA, etc., but never the Burroughs 7094, that I have seen. Is it that 
there weren't that many of these manufactured or is somebody hoarding these 
monsters? Any thoughts from the old nixie-salts who MUST have seen some of 
these out there in the past? And I swear..they don't exist!! 

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Re: [neonixie-l] NL7094 is a myth!

[Dieter Waechter]

They exist and they glow nice! ;-)
(attached)

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  From: MichaelB 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:57 AM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] NL7094 is a myth!


  OK, so this hobby has been an obsession of mine for about 8 years now (no 
where near as long as many on this forum), but I have YET to see a 7094 
available, anywhere! All the other rare Nixie's pop up from time to time, CD 
47, F9020AA, etc., but never the Burroughs 7094, that I have seen. Is it that 
there weren't that many of these manufactured or is somebody hoarding these 
monsters? Any thoughts from the old nixie-salts who MUST have seen some of 
these out there in the past? And I swear..they don't exist!! 

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[neonixie-l] ZM1032 Nixie Tube updated

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi!
I have updated the ZM1032 (Valvo) page.
See the new detail pictures.

Check it out:
http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/nixie-news.htm

DIETER
http://www.nocrotec.com/
PS: if you think this contents are commercial, please do NOT open the links. 
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[neonixie-l] Looking for Nixie tube data

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi Friends,
I'm looking for tube data/pictures/information for the following tubes:

GA-10
GR71M
GR81M
GR8M
NL-1205
NL-5347
NL-5385
NL-7242
NL-828
NUP124-6
XN21
XN28
XNP17
16845247

Maybe anyone of you can help?
DIETER
http://www.nocrotec.com/

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[neonixie-l] For all tube self-makers

[Dieter Waechter]

I have found that at Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251235692223

Maybe interesting. Also see the list he wrote for future offers.
Dieter

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Re: [neonixie-l] Advertizing [Fwd: [NEONIXIE-L] Digest Number 1053]

[Dieter Waechter]

I agree with Tom, and I ask you to offer all, adverdize all, send all your 
interesting Ebay auction links, spam my privat mail address with Nixie 
related offers as much as you can. Send tons of price lists, pictures of 
your offered items or all that you want. Commercial or private - OFFER AND 
ADVERITZE ALL TO ME! - I'm very happy with it.

Thanks
Dieter

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Nolan" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Advertizing [Fwd: [NEONIXIE-L] Digest Number 1053]


I'm certain most of the list members understand we have an interest in 
something which you can't go to the local hobby shop to get and how 
cooperation between members (Tim's group purchase, Dieter sharing tube 
specs, etc ) is the only way we can do anything.  In addition to the 
supply problem I prefer to purchase things from list members ahead of 
completely unknown sources.


I'm too busy to always know whats being sold and by whom.  You can save me 
a lot of time and energy if you give me a heads up on the list.


Advertize (that's the e-spelling), all you want!

Tom


On 03/02/2013 6:22 AM, lai...@wcoil.com wrote:

Hello, here is a digest from shortly after I joined Neonixie, in early
2004. So I have been here just a little while. I also coordinated the 
over
1000 tube Richardson group buy.  I chip something into the group every 
now

and then.  I also post once and a while when I list something on E-bay
that might be interesting to the group. So I don't see any problems with
Dieters post/advertizing. Dieter has added a lot to the group, his post 
is
directly related to our hobby. If Dieter does well he is more likely to 
be

going out and finding more tubes and new types of Nixies for all of the
rest of us.  Over the years I have seen a lot of people post new clocks
etc that they have up for sale.  So the long and short of it is I see no
problem with the occasional blurb.  The next one may be for that item you
never knew you had to have.
In Shameless Commerce
 Tim Laing




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[neonixie-l] Some updates

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi Gang,
I have added some interesting new datasheets/Databooks:
http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/dat_arch.htm

I have added the following sections:
南昌 (Nanchang tube factory)
data and
辉光 (Hui Guang tube factory)
and
Chinese Tube Factories/Data Books
see:
chinese_databook-01.pdf
chinese_databook-02.pdf
QS30-1_Nanchang_01.pdf

And the inditron sheets:
inditron.pdf
GI-10-AIEE-1956.pdf


And I have added the QS30-1 page:
http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/data/B13B-F/QS30-1_feng-SH01/QS30-1_feng-SH01.htm

Have fun with it.

DIETER
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Black'n'Wood Nixie Clock is available

[Dieter Waechter]

These are the prices incl. VAT.
Reduce them 19% for the net prices.
Thanks
Dieter

  - Original Message - 
  From: micha...@aol.com 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 7:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Black'n'Wood Nixie Clock is available


  179 eu + shipping.

  Another 50+ for the tubes.

  Michail

  In a message dated 2/2/2013 10:14:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
luckyl...@gmail.com writes:
Looks amazing! I dont see any price on the site though.

On Saturday, 2 February 2013 16:59:15 UTC, Nocrotec wrote: 
  Hi Nixie Friends, 
  The Black'n'Wood Nixie Clock is available now. 
  Check it out: 
  
http://www.nocrotec.com/shop/product_info.php/info/p162_Black-n-Wood-Nixie-Clock.html
 
  Hope you like it and your comments are welcome as ever. 
  DIETER 
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[neonixie-l] Black'n'Wood Nixie Clock is available

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi Nixie Friends,
The Black'n'Wood Nixie Clock is available now.
Check it out:
http://www.nocrotec.com/shop/product_info.php/info/p162_Black-n-Wood-Nixie-Clock.html
Hope you like it and your comments are welcome as ever.
DIETER
http://www.nocrotec.com/

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Neonixie Mail Archive?

[Dieter Waechter]

Thank you marcin.
I already have the archive completed again.
Dieter


- Original Message - 
From: marcin

To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Neonixie Mail Archive?


I have an archive of the old yahoo posts. Here it is: 
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B0bo1325G8EQUUd2VjZuRnBtcHc
After opening this page there will be a menu in the left top corner. Choose 
File, then Download.
After downloading unpack and copy the file into Thunderbird's profile 
Mail\'Local Folders' folder. Restart Thunderbird and you should see it under 
your Local Folders'. First access will take a moment as Thunderbird will 
have to index it first.
There is a glitch with emails reporting html/text and heaving only text... 
Will have to sort it our on one point.

Marcin

On Tuesday, 6 November 2012 15:24:46 UTC+1, Nocrotec wrote:
Hi,
maybe one of you can help me:
I have lost a part of the Neonixie mails some time ago (Mailserver
crashes and other issues).
I know the mirror page, but I want the archive back in .eml or
Thunderbird format. Can anyone help? Maybe someone of you has it
complete or is there a method to download it completely?
Thanks
Dieter

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[neonixie-l] Neonixie Mail Archive?

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi,
maybe one of you can help me:
I have lost a part of the Neonixie mails some time ago (Mailserver 
crashes and other issues).
I know the mirror page, but I want the archive back in .eml or 
Thunderbird format. Can anyone help? Maybe someone of you has it 
complete or is there a method to download it completely?

Thanks
Dieter

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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie watch case update

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi David,
I like your new sleek design better.
At the old design I like the left version better.
Do you have a side view?
Where will the USB connection be?
Dieter

Am 06.11.2012 07:24, schrieb David Forbes:

Dear all,

In spite of having designed a new sleek Nixie watch, I still have many
requests for the big old style. I can't argue; the Woz has made it a
must-have item.

I have had many requests to make the lugs more beefy, and the strap a
bit wider. I am going from 20mm to 22mm.

What do you think of the new lug design? Is it OK, or are some
proportions off?

http://www.nixiewatch.com/casetest.html


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 2 Burroguhs manuals at Ebay

[Dieter Waechter]

I am interested, too.
Dieter

- Original Message - 
From: Dekatron42

To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 3:25 PM
Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: 2 Burroguhs manuals at Ebay


Already sold!

If someone here at the forum bought them I am interrested in a copy, please 
send a private message.


/Martin

On Monday, October 29, 2012 2:36:42 PM UTC+1, Nocrotec wrote:
Maybe interesting for anyone:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150936164828&item=150936164828&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Burroughs-Corporation-Beam-X-Tube-Technical-Brochure-/160911447099?pt=US_Manuals_Magazines&hash=item257711d43b

(all not mine)
Dieter

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[neonixie-l] 2 Burroguhs manuals at Ebay

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Maybe interesting for anyone:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150936164828&item=150936164828&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Burroughs-Corporation-Beam-X-Tube-Technical-Brochure-/160911447099?pt=US_Manuals_Magazines&hash=item257711d43b

(all not mine)
Dieter

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anode Mesh or Anode Grid?

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi!


A day?!


Yes, a day

Whoah, i had no idea you could be that busy! Are you selling clocks / 
tubes as a fulltime job?


No no... just a hobby. ;-)
Dieter

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anode Mesh or Anode Grid?

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Hi!


Ah ok, by the way, hows the big site update going?


ahhh... it's super super super delayed.
I still have so many orders that I don't know what to do first.
I have so many data I want to put online.. but no chance at the moment.
200-300 Nixie e-mails a day are hard to process for one man only.
;-)
Dieter

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anode Mesh or Anode Grid?

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Are you writing some article?


No, I just was curious. ;-)
Dieter

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[neonixie-l] Anode Mesh or Anode Grid?

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi Friends,
What is the right word to use in English?
"Anode Mesh" or "Anode Grid"?
My thoughts: It is not a "grid" - since (you know) a grid in an electron 
tube can never be the anode.

It is more a "mesh".
Or is another word better?
What do you think?
Dieter


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[neonixie-l] What's that????

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150890331475
I never saw that book.
88 pages? A joke, or what.
Dieter

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[neonixie-l] ATTENTION !!!! maybe Nixie cheater at Ebay

[Dieter Waechter]

BE CAREFUL!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130752003847&item=130752003847&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466

DO NOT BUY FROM HIM!
Dieter 


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Impession of the IN-18 Bluie Dream Series 2

[Dieter Waechter]

Hi Friends,
Yes, it will be released on 2012-07-25 at our shops.
We have had so many pre-orders that only a few are left.
You still can pre-order.
Let us know.
You will find all details about the clock here:
http://www.nocrotec.com/shop/product_info.php/language/en/info/p127_IN-18-Blue-Dream-Nixie-Uhr.html

Tubes with HIGH datecode 1991, 1992 are still on stock!
Take the (nearly) last chance

Dieter

Am 23.07.2012 12:23, schrieb AndrakondrA (Daniil):

Dieter
Will the kit be available soon? ...in18 patiently waiting in the box..
Thanks,
Dan.



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