Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Photoshot from a defective IN-4 Tube

[Lucky Ace Kandoo]

The microscope is: Andonstar V160 2MP USB Digital - nothing special, but 
with fully licensed Software AMCap 9.23
The stand is ab bit shaky, wobbly and fiddly for manual focus - but it is 
enough for my needs.

Pramanicin schrieb am Samstag, 19. September 2020 um 15:46:11 UTC+2:

> Those are great pictures! What microscope are you using?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Photoshot from a defective IN-4 Tube

[Lucky Ace Kandoo]

 Tonight I had two broken IN-4 tubes again - the old bug again - whiskers. 
But this time the error pattern extends to the years of production 11/75 
and 03/78. I will never use these tubes next to the IN-1 and IN-2 in future 
projects. Never had so much trouble with Nixie tubes as with the IN-1, IN-2 
and IN-4. 

gregebert schrieb am Mittwoch, 22. Juli 2020 um 22:42:18 UTC+2:

> And then a few hours later, another short will appear. I had this problem 
> with IN-1's and I will never use them in any project.
> The mechanism is metal-whisker growth, which forms a metallic bridge in 
> the presence of an electric field.
>
> On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 8:28:26 AM UTC-7 celzey11 wrote:
>
>> Try the "burn the short like it's a fuse" strategy with a DC power 
>> supply. 
>
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Anyone recognize these?

[Lucky Ace Kandoo]

Maybe the ZM1122 ?



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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie film appearance - Chernobyl miniseries

[Lucky Ace Kandoo]

Greetings,

I would disagree with you all and say that this is the Z57xM series from W 
& F Germany

Am Freitag, 7. Juni 2019 23:09:29 UTC+2 schrieb Kevin A.:
>
> I've been watching the HBO miniseries about Chernobyl (which is very 
> entertaining without disrespecting most of the facts). Without going into 
> spoilers, there are several scenes where nixies are featured. Despite 
> thinking I could recognize most nixie types, I can't tell which tubes 
> appear in the show. I included a pic of the best close up offered on 
> screen. Any ideas?
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Advertizing [Fwd: [NEONIXIE-L] Digest Number 1053]

[Lucky]

Maybe (some) of you took my comments the wrong way, I have no problem 
seeing the fruits of others labour and even selling/advertising here, so 
the groups agrees NOT to abide by nicks comment "Just a polite reminder 
that this forum is NOT a commercial marketplace - there are other sites for 
that. Occasional offers for sale, fine; Commercial operation. No."

I for one though it was great that a guy (to whom Nicks post was aimed) was 
letting us know he had a large(?) stock of nixie tubes for sale, even 
offering group discounts, which to my mind is in the spirit of being part 
of a community in the first place.
Rather than stopping Dieter (Who IS running a commercial enterprise) it's 
always great to see his work and ideas. Dieter, in my mind, is a true 
fanatic of all things nixie just as much as we are and I like to be 
informed when someone comes up with a stock of tubes (Not just ready made 
units) and a bit of group discount is even better.

On Sunday, 3 February 2013 19:57:13 UTC, I wrote:
>
> I agree too. It would be a shame to miss out on something nice. Ira 
>
>
>
> On 2/3/2013 11:48 AM, kay486 wrote: 
> > I too agree that we should be able to tell the others what we are 
> > selling, but only every once in a while. Most of us dont do any of 
> > this for living and if you happen to sell something not so common you 
> > should be able to let other people know. 
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[neonixie-l] Re: Black'n'Wood Nixie Clock is available

[Lucky]

Hi have great respect for Dieter, even own some of his clocks/boards but 
for a hobbyists discussion group the words 'Overt' and 'Advertising' come 
to mind.
Especially in light of this comment made before by Nick: "Just a polite 
reminder that this forum is NOT a commercial marketplace - there are other 
sites for that. Occasional offers for sale, fine; Commercial operation. 
No." aimed at someone who is willing to supply only 'components' ie tubes
And you can't get much more commercial than nocrotec.com/SHOP (Your 
account| Shopping 
cart  | 
Checkout
)!
Again no offence to you Dieter and you fine designs of ready built clocks, 
just saying. ;)
Dave


On Saturday, 2 February 2013 16:59:15 UTC, Nocrotec wrote:
>
> Hi Nixie Friends, 
> The Black'n'Wood Nixie Clock is available now. 
> Check it out: 
>
> http://www.nocrotec.com/shop/product_info.php/info/p162_Black-n-Wood-Nixie-Clock.html
>  
> Hope you like it and your comments are welcome as ever. 
> DIETER 
> http://www.nocrotec.com/ 
>
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[neonixie-l] Re: Off topic Circuit for automatic cat door.

[Lucky]

Ermm and you find the mutilation of an animal ok?
You find terrorising another animal ok?
You think the extermination of a group by unnatural means (a 'domestic' cat 
is not natural) is ok?
"A fellow cat lover told me that once they trimmed off their cat's whiskers 
and the can would be ware of going from room to room in the house 
especially if the door was partly closed leaving a narrow gap." this is 
what 'cat lovers' do??

I'm sorry but I have got to say this, personally I do not particularly like 
cats (yet they always seem to find me as a 'friend'. I will always pet them 
if they desire etc) but find this post so offensive. It borders, no IS 
cruelty to trim a cats whiskers, it is cruel to allow, worse encourage your 
domesticated cat to 'exterminate' a complete colony of a different species!
I have not spoken on this thread before becuase of my bias of not being a 
'cat lover' but gotta say just close your windows peoples, stop worrying 
whether they can get in or out that's what DOORS are for! If you can't 
mange that don't have a cat period!
When you start thinking/saying "My hunter cat, a GENTLE calico, would bring 
home SLAIN squirrels" you have lost the plot somewhere along the line, 
exterminating an entire colony via a 'domesticated' animal is WRONG!


On Friday, 28 December 2012 07:07:29 UTC, Raymond Weisling wrote:
>
> About 1977 I had two cats and a 24/7 cat flap, but a stray was coming in 
> during the night and getting food left  for the residents. I breadboarded a 
> cat discriminator. It used two telephone relay coils that could detect a 
> small magnet passing between them, added to the cat collars and a light 
> bulb plus detector (photoresistor). If the magnetic signal was triggered 
> and a cat entered, it was a resident, if the non-resident entered, not 
> wearing the magnet, it sounded an alarm. I added  larger flap made from 
> cardboard and a solenoid that allowed the large flap to fall and close off 
> the smaller flap so no exit was possible. The no-exit flap solenoid was 
> actually manually energized by touching two wires together on the end of a 
> cable that ran to my bedroom. Everything was rather crude. I expected that 
> I needed it once. 
>
> After I installed it I tested it with my cats with and without collars and 
> it seemed to work well.
>
> That same night at around 02:00 the alarm sounded, I touched the wires 
> together, the larger flap fell and I went out. The non-resident, hearing me 
> stirring, made a mad dash for the door and hit the large flap covering the 
> bidirectional flap. I tried to catch this panicking cat, and in the process 
> the breadboard and the lamp, photoresistor and coils all came undone from 
> their temporary mounts. It was a jumble.
>
> The non-resident had to be chased around the house, leaping up at closed 
> windows, and eventually I caught him, and trimmed off his whiskers with a 
> scissors. This is a very powerful yet harmless reminder since they depend 
> on them for feeling for passages that their body can get through. (A fellow 
> cat lover told me that once they trimmed off their cat's whiskers and the 
> can would be ware of going from room to room in the house especially if the 
> door was partly closed leaving a narrow gap.) They will be disoriented for 
> some months until new whiskers grow back. A good reminder. 
>
> I finally opened the door and released the non-resident, who seemed to 
> traverse the back yard that was a least 15 meters (or 40-some feet) long in 
> three or four leaps. He never again appeared. The damaged cat discriminator 
> was summarily taken apart. I remember using LM324 and LM 339 in the circuit.
>
> One of the cats was a great hunter, and I lived north of the San Fernando 
> Valley in foothill areas (Newhall, CA) where some ground squirrels lived. 
> My hunter cat, a gentle calico, would bring home slain squirrels and leave 
> various parts somewhere in the house as a token of her skill, for me to 
> find and clean up when I got home. This happened on a nearly daily basis 
> one spring. Eventually it stopped and I found that the nearby colony has 
> been totally exterminated by my calico. For a while I had wondered what it 
> would take to build a prey discriminator that could block her entry only 
> when she carried a victim, but even now I suspect that that is a much 
> greater challenge.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

[Lucky]

Of course what you could do is release all the plans, data, rights etc. to 
the general public! At least that way SOMEONE might benefit and I'm sure 
many here on the group would assist others in building some devices or give 
advice maybe even make some of the case components and boards etc. That way 
you will not come over as a scammer (or worse), your project would live on 
as open source, it will cost you nothing and those that lost money would at 
least be partly placated. Just an idea for you to mull over 

On Monday, 3 December 2012 12:48:16 UTC, Mimewar wrote:
>
> Crawl back under your slimy rock Ray.  No ones buying.
>
> On Dec 2, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Raymond Weisling 
> > 
> wrote:
>
> Also I would include a number of different drawings for laser-cut acrylic 
> cases that are very attractive, both for the large board and split PCB 
> versions. These are FreeHand or Corel-draw files that any laser cutting 
> operation can do. These cases also could be sold to retrofit to existing 
> FLW/GKK units 
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Re: [neonixie-l] LM9022 is back

[Lucky]

Hi Grahame I too just looked a saw they were out of stock. I have a few 
VFD's 'hanging around' so would be interested in 5 for myself. I was going 
to offer the group to buy a load just to save on postage but I'm not 
registered atm and it would be a non-business acc anyway so would be 
grateful if you include me for 5 if you do a bulk order. Thanks in advance, 
Dave

On Tuesday, 20 November 2012 14:39:22 UTC, Grahame Marsh wrote:
>
> On 20/11/2012 14:34, John Rehwinkel wrote: 
> >> Having said the LM9022 VFD filament/HV driver chip had gone 
> unobtainium, I've found it back in stock with RS Components in the UK at 
> about the same price that it was when I last bought them from Farnell. 
> > Now they show no stock, but say they can despatch more on 26 November. 
>  I tried the US branch of RS (which is Allied Electronics), and they show 
> no stock either, and I'd 
> > have to fill out a contact form to even find out what the lead time is. 
> > 
> > - John 
> > 
> John, 
>
> I probably cleaned them out! I bought 10 and received 5 today with a 
> note saying the other 5 will follow at the end of the month.  My brother 
> has a RS business account and I get them through him.  Since RS are a 
> bit difficult with non-business accounts  I will buy them for group 
> members or do a group order if the demand is there.  Can't promise 
> anything as it is dependant on RS. (My bro' owes me some favours so 
> don't worry about him!) 
>
> Grahame 
>
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[neonixie-l] Re: Second Scope Clock

[Lucky]

Grahame another well thought out device you have there looking great 
especially like the sunrise/set (and forthcoming moon phase) option.
Great to see you're still busy in the workshop (must contact you soon)
Dave


On Tuesday, 13 November 2012 10:24:51 UTC, Grahame Marsh wrote:
>
> Work in progress for a new scope clock.  But fully working and complete 
> to date with schematics, layouts, all source code (GCC-AVR) and a 
> description of how it works. 
>
> http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/scope2.html 
>
> Enjoy 
> Grahame 
>
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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch case update

[Lucky]

No I don't (unfortunately) have one of David's watches (Yet) but is 
certainly on my wish list but then along came Michel and I like the design 
of his watch as well, hmm...going to have to buy one of each now aren't I?
In all seriousness I think both you guys have superb designs and am envious 
of your skills and talents. Yes I think the rechargeable design is great 
and pushing me towards it, I hate have so many mini psu's (Wallwart?) 
hanging around but now the mini usb standard is starting to be extensively 
used eg with my mobile phone it makes sense to put them to further use.  I 
get the 45degree tilt idea, would be interesting to see the number of 
triggers per day/week
Kudos to both guys (and I actually enjoy the banter seeing you bounce ideas 
off of each other whilst we mortals listen in haha)

On Wednesday, 7 November 2012 17:31:48 UTC, J Forbes wrote:
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 10:24:43 AM UTC-7, Lucky wrote:
>>
>>
>> Regardless, on viewing amount/times, as I understand it you have a tilt 
>> sensor to enable the tubes at a set angle but will not the tubes also 
>> ignite during normal everyday wearing? For instance my arm right now as I 
>> type is at the ideal viewing angle, I can also imagine many times when my 
>> arm would be at this angle, so is the watch going to be turning on 
>> regularly or what stops that from happening? (I can envisage the 'hundreds 
>> of times' scenario if no safeguards in place)
>>
>
> I guess you don't have one of David's watches? The "ideal viewing angle" 
> probably isn't what you expect it to bethe watch is designed so that 
> you move it so it's "flat" then roll your wrist so the top of the watch 
> moves toward your head. Hard to explain...watch the video and see how it 
> works.  I like to set the angle so it's closer to 90 degrees, than the 
> suggested 45 degrees.
>
> It really does work, in normal use the watch does not turn on too often. I 
> almost always get more than 6 months out of a CR2 battery. 
>
> The new rechargeable watch will be fun to see how the battery lasts...I 
> plan to charge it weekly, and see how it does. Recommended charge interval 
> is three weeks, which is probably hard to remember.
>
> Jim Forbes 
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch case update

[Lucky]

On Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:13:10 UTC, yuckymucky wrote:I like the new 
design, kinda glad I held off on getting one of the originals as I will 
most certainly be getting one of your new designs. Already have the money 
stashed away.

 

>
> Really? You check your watch every 7 minutes during waking hours? 
>
> You are either obsessed with time, or with your watch. 
>

Or himself.

Wow not a very polite suggestion! Verging on the down right rude if you ask 
me.

Regardless, on viewing amount/times, as I understand it you have a tilt 
sensor to enable the tubes at a set angle but will not the tubes also 
ignite during normal everyday wearing? For instance my arm right now as I 
type is at the ideal viewing angle, I can also imagine many times when my 
arm would be at this angle, so is the watch going to be turning on 
regularly or what stops that from happening? (I can envisage the 'hundreds 
of times' scenario if no safeguards in place)

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch case update

[Lucky]

IMO the rightmost one looks both sturdier and better designed with the 
larger shaped lugs.
Dave.

On Tuesday, 6 November 2012 06:24:41 UTC, nixiebunny wrote:
>
> Dear all, 
>
> In spite of having designed a new sleek Nixie watch, I still have many 
> requests for the big old style. I can't argue; the Woz has made it a 
> must-have item. 
>
> I have had many requests to make the lugs more beefy, and the strap a 
> bit wider. I am going from 20mm to 22mm. 
>
> What do you think of the new lug design? Is it OK, or are some 
> proportions off? 
>
> http://www.nixiewatch.com/casetest.html 
>
> -- 
> David Forbes, Tucson AZ 
>
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[neonixie-l] Re: The 'Nixie' tube I made last summer, and promised I'd share-

[Lucky]

I love your FSM!

On Saturday, 29 September 2012 13:34:52 UTC+1, dylan roelofs wrote:
>
> Hey Howdy everyone-
>I finally updated my webpage; frankly, my very least favorite thing to 
> do in the summer...
>
>I'm at www.incandescentsculpture.com-
>Under 'Vacuum Tubes" I've got a little writeup, and video of what I'm 
> calling the "Fuxie"
>
> Those offended by Anglo-Saxon swearing should probably skip it...
>
> The Tesla Bulb section may also be of interest to some of you- I've 
> been puttering around with that for a few years, too.
>
> Cheers!-
>  -Dylan
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anode Mesh or Anode Grid?

[Lucky]

Dieter your idea of a 'hobby' is what we mere mortals class as 'a business' 
haha

On Tuesday, 25 September 2012 21:38:59 UTC+1, Nocrotec wrote:
>
> Hi! 
>
> > A day?! 
>
> Yes, a day 
>
> > Whoah, i had no idea you could be that busy! Are you selling clocks / 
> > tubes as a fulltime job? 
>
> No no... just a hobby. ;-) 
> Dieter 
>
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[neonixie-l] Mullard ZM1200 for sale

[Lucky]

Hey all I have only just seen this and it's only got 4hrs to go but one of 
you mat be interested
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rare-ZM1200-Pandicon-14-digit-Nixie-Tube-Mullard-Valve-Indicator-display-/200816424388

I've nothing to do with the sale but though of interest
Dave

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[neonixie-l] Re: My new Scope Clock site, Oscilloclock.com

[Lucky]

Excellent clock Aaron very impressive, wishing I had one. 

On Monday, 3 September 2012 15:17:17 UTC+1, Oscilloclock wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, I think scope clocks are a little off-topic here but wanted 
> to let people know -
>  
> Years ago, I saw David's incredible Scope 
> Clockand decided I really, 
> REALLY wanted to make one for myself! So, over 
> the past few years I've managed to make two based on his design.
>  
> I rewrote the entire code for the PIC microcontroller and enhanced 
> functionality a fair bit. I've even added locale switching and currently 
> support Japanese language display for a bit of flair!
>  
> I finally put together my showcase site for the project, - please see *
> http://oscilloclock.com* . It's a fairly static 
> site, but I have a few blog posts in the pipeline.  Like David did with 
> his SC200 board, I have made schematics, boards, 3D models, and software 
> (GPL) freely available, so I hope you will find the site both interesting 
> and useful.
>  
> I'm a hobbyist and this is not supposed to be a business, but I may build 
> and sell a clock every once in a while to fund other projects.
> David if you see this, thanks for all the inspiration! If there is 
> anything at all on the site that is not appropriate per GPL etc, just let 
> me know and I will fix it.
>  
> Aaron Stokes
> *http://oscilloclock.com* 
>  
>
>
> 
>  
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Elektronika 7-06M

[Lucky]

John, who is this Vitaly you refer to?

On Saturday, 25 August 2012 15:52:49 UTC+1, jrehwin wrote:
>
> > - one tube has been broken in transit and I have to replace it with 
> IV-26 
> > type 1, as I cannot find type 2 tube, even on ebay or in Russia  yet... 
>
> Vitaly, do you have any of the type 2 tubes?  Or the orange or red 
> phosphor ones? 
>
> - John 
>
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[neonixie-l] Re: Anyone have an Eagle library for Soviet K176-series ICs?

[Lucky]

Although I cannot give you any information re Eagle I would say apart from 
translating into English leave it as it is.
"style more understandable to Western readers" Who does not understand this 
format? 

"numbers noted in a random position when a signal enters / exits the bus" 
The numbers are in numerical order from each connector, as they SHOULD be.

"showing all the connector pins in sequence" No the BUS lines should be in 
sequence (see above) as they are.

"not splitting a single connector onto multiple pieces of the schematic" 
Not a problem, that's schematics for you, still easy to follow and the ic's 
functions would NOT normally be put on the schematic (would be difficult as 
their pin outs are not in 'component' order unless you're planning to 
rearrange the bus order and make it more difficult to read)
If you want to see all the CONNECTOR pins in numerical order then see a 
wiring diagram. Don't know about anyone else (here) but to me, and I'm in 
the UK, that is a standard type schematic. I used to build/service electric 
trains and can show you schematics from British Rail from the 60's/70's 
right through to today that use the same format. Just a thought Terry but 
'Re-invent the wheel' comes to mind, if anyone struggles to read the 
example schematic they just need to brush up on their digram reading skills.
P.s. it WOULD be great in English ;)



On Sunday, 15 July 2012 14:55:07 UTC+1, Terry Kennedy wrote:
>
> I figure it is a long shot, but it never hurts to ask. I've been 
> thinking about re-drawing the Elektronika 7 family schematics in a 
> style more understandable to Western readers. This will involve (at a 
> minimum) not splitting a single connector onto multiple pieces of the 
> schematic, showing all the connector pins in sequence on the 
> schematic, clarifying when a bus is used (right now, it is a line the 
> same width as a single connection with numbers noted in a random 
> position when a signal enters / exits the bus), showing Western ground 
> and +V symbols instead of just labeling wire ends A abd B. And of 
> course, I'd change all of the comments and notes to English, leaving 
> only the part numbers in Russian. 
>
> K176 databook here: http://www.tmk.com/transient/k176-data.pdf 
> A typical "problem" schematic: 
> http://www.tmk.com/blog/elektronika-schematic.jpg 
>
> Has anyone ever tried this before, and maybe has some leftover 
> libraries that would help? 
>
> If I get that far, I could also use a library with IV-6, IV-26 (type 
> 1, 2, and 3), and IV-17. But I could create those myself - it is the 
> work of getting the ICs and their functions in that I'd rather not 
> repeat if it is available.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Question on mains

[Lucky]

I thought the o/p wanted a 120v ISOLATED supply? Using this circuit will 
not only give you 240v but it will NOT be isolated. 
A point to be concerned about is not just 'mains' supply but ANY High 
Voltage supply, isolated or not can be lethal or injurious to health, any 
voltage greater than 40 volts is generally considered potentially 
dangerous. ANY circuit using High Voltage SHOULD be properly enclosed and 
isolated from prying fingers (of course it may not look as good). Just 
because you have 'isolated' it from the main supply does not make it safe, 
all you are doing is reducing the risk of electric shock from any conductor 
to ground (AKA 'Earth') I would seriously reconsider your enclosure 
construction.

On Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:21:10 UTC+1, Tidak Ada wrote:
>
>  Just met on ' Mike's Electric Stuff ', a solution by placing the two 
> primaries  of a two voltage transformer in series, connecting one half to 
> the mains and taking off your 240 Volts from both the primaries. [ 
> http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/stepup.gif ] It forms a primitive 
> auto-transformer.
> Don't connect the secondaries !  
>  
> eric
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Lucky]

I hadn't even thought about tire sizes...
and leave 'our' 50hz alone haha, out of interest though this is from the 
Institute 
of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE)  "There is speculation that 
the value of 50 Hz was chosen in Europe as being an element in the metric 
“Series of Preferred Numbers,” proposed by the French army engineer Charles 
Renard in the 1870s. Indeed, the R10 series, consisting of the following 
rounded values 10, 12.5, 16, 20, 25, 31.5, 40, 50, 63, 80, 100...See so we 
went with metric way back! Now to go and grab my 'yard stick'


"So you know, we are in the 21st century.  At least most of us.  :)" That's 
why I said 20th century! (Tongue in cheek) 







 







"On Wednesday, 4 July 2012 19:21:57 UTC+1, Michail wrote:
>
>  John,
>  
> I thought about Tires as well.  Funny you brought it up.
>  
> So you know, we are in the 21st century.  At least most of us.  :)
>  
> Michail 
>  
> In a message dated 7/4/2012 11:16:49 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
> jreh...@mac.com writes:
>
> > No wonder we can be a mixed up lot, we will drag ourselves into the 20th 
> century kicking and screaming (Might get to the 21st someday too)
>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Lucky]

UK
Liquid volume: pints for fresh milk but litres for evaporated-pints for 
beer but millilitres/mills for spirits

Distance/length: miles/yards/feet for distance but metres/centimetres for 
building materials (and drawings)

Weight: Lbs/ounces for produce (and sometimes grammes but we wont go into 
that) but kilos for body weight ('cept for 'old fogies' who still use 
stones)

Ask someone how long a cable you need they will answer in feet but we buy 
it per metre

We say a car is 10ft long but measure its boot capacity in litres, engine 
capacity in litres but still talk of horsepower

People talk of 1/4 of a %! (That to me is the 'best' one, combining 
fractions with metrics)
No wonder we can be a mixed up lot, we will drag ourselves into the 20th 
century kicking and screaming (Might get to the 21st someday too)

Nick you *know* what the queen uses?! 
Anyway if you want Fahrenheit just remember Tf = (9/5)*Tc+32, simples ;)


On Wednesday, 4 July 2012 10:58:23 UTC+1, Nick wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 4 July 2012 05:28:41 UTC+1, Lucky wrote:
>>
>> Still makes me laugh, here in the UK people use Fahrenheit when 
>> describing 'hot' days but Centigrade when 'cold'!
>> Anyway I think it should be measured in 'Kelvins' ;)  
>>
>
> No-one that I know of in the UK still uses degrees F, except superannuated 
> old fogies who still believe we have an empire...
>
> The only thing you need to know is that the BBC and the Queen use degrees 
> C... I rest my case... 
>
> ...though we use imperial measures for length (but often also metric) and 
> distance, speed & area, volume of draught beer and milk (but not petrol) 
> etc. simple really.
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Lucky]

Still makes me laugh, here in the UK people use Fahrenheit when describing 
'hot' days but Centigrade when 'cold'!
Anyway I think it should be measured in 'Kelvins' ;)  

On Wednesday, 4 July 2012 05:20:32 UTC+1, Dave wrote:
>
> In the article, the author states that F is not on the IN-19 tube he used 
> and that is why there is no Fahrenheit feature.
> Personally, I would displayed Fahrenheit after the C reading and simply 
> blanked the IN-19.
>
> On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 9:23:36 PM UTC-4, Michail wrote:
>>
>>  I would think that USA is big/well known enough and probably the 
>> largest user of Nixie for fun devices that a programmer would have 
>> implemented (easily) a Fahrenheit feature.
>>  
>> A feature which would take maybe a couple hours (at most) to add, would 
>> be smart to open your product open for a wanted item for an entire country.
>>  
>> It was just a thought.
>>  
>> Michail 
>>  
>>  In a message dated 7/3/2012 4:23:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
>> cm...@zeusprune.ca writes:
>>
>> there are only a few locations worldwide that still use Fahrenheit.  if 
>> the ability is not mentioned, I would not exapet it to be available.
>> -- 
>> Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario
>> 
>>
>>

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Re: [neonixie-l] where can I get IN-18 tubes at a reasonable price?

[Lucky]

What handy information. Can any of you who have handled many of these tubes 
confirm (or not) these findings?
This alone would make a great 'sticky' but we don't/can't do the, bugger.

On Monday, 2 July 2012 14:31:21 UTC+1, Jeff Thomas wrote:
>
> Speaking from considerable experience; you must drive the older date code 
> IN-18 tubes at beyond 5ma cathode current to limit the effects of cathode 
> poisoning.
> The 1980-1983 production tubes are a particularly nasty batch, tending to 
> form oxides on active cathodes in spite of the excessive current.
>
> The 1989-1991 production IN-18's are the best, and typically will operate 
> problem-free at <4ma.
>
> I had thrown away hundreds of older date coded IN-18 tubes because of 
> recurring oxide poisoning or frit seal leaks.
>
> I'll wager that Dieter also has a growing bin, laden with stinkers ;) 
>
> Regards, Jeff
>
>
>
> On Monday, July 2, 2012 2:43:43 AM UTC-7, marcin wrote:
>>
>> So, where is the catch in this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/310407744076Looks 
>> fishy. Of course I have no affiliation with this seller nor I ever 
>> bought anything from them. 
>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] where can I get IN-18 tubes at a reasonable price?

[Lucky]

" but I can't beat down the ebay price"

"can't" ("don't want to!")  ;) *grins

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[neonixie-l] Re: Finally completed my latest project...

[Lucky]

Have to laugh Tony. You started off this thread with the words "...so I 
decided to build something that 
couldn't suffer from feature creep". Hah! Fool you, you showed it to us! 
Now we have a never ending list of 'features' for you to add. Mind you 
something like this chess set just screams out for collective 
'personalisation'. There'll be no stopping the flood now I tell you ;)
Dave.  

On Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:30:38 UTC+1, Tony Adams wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
>
> Hope you won't mind me spamming this here but I've finally completed 
> something nixie-based. 
>
> I have a bad habit of building prototypes only to add to an ever- 
> growing list of 'features' which inevitably result in a completely new 
> design and software rewrite - so I decided to build something that 
> couldn't suffer from feature creep and wouldn't 'benefit' from 
> humidity sensors, GPS, USB, IR or RF remote or movement activation. 
>
> Some pictures and a (not very good) video of it in operation can be 
> found here: 
>
> http://www.lasermad.com/?p=235 
>
> Hmmm... a PIR sensor might just... I could easily add that to the 
> controller... and a touch switch to deactivate.. or maybe a Zigbee 
>
> Tony. 
>
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Finally completed my latest project...

[Lucky]

Kudos Tony, Kudos!
and here was me looking at illuminating a glass chess set, this totally 
outshines that (Pun intended). The most novel application I have ever seen 
and being interested in the 'steampunk' genre right up my street.
(I want one lol)

On Thursday, 21 June 2012 20:36:01 UTC+1, Tony Adams wrote:
>
> Thanks everyone for the positive comments, I'm not very good at 
> promoting things - maybe one of the reasons why I'm always redesigning 
> rather than finishing them. 
>
> I've added an extra photograph to the blog post showing the receiver 
> coil and multiplier circuit, only the cathode required is connected 
> leaving the rest unused. The assembled pieces have 3 pins to provide 
> more stability as they're not glued together, allowing a broken tube 
> to be unplugged and replaced if ever needed. 
>
> Technically it's reasonably simple to build but mostly monotonous due 
> to the amount of repetition in assembly. 
>
> Tony. 
>
> On Jun 21, 8:04 pm, Dalibor Farný  wrote: 
> > Wow, I simply don't understand! As Jens said, I haven't better nixie 
> > project! 
> > 
> > Do You have some technical info on your site? 
> > 
> > Dalibor 
> > 
> > 2012/6/21 kay486  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > This is absolutely amazing! How did you managed to power the tubes 
> without 
> > > any risk? 
> > 
> > > On Thursday, June 21, 2012 7:30:38 PM UTC+1, Tony Adams wrote: 
> > 
> > >> Hi all, 
> > 
> > >> Hope you won't mind me spamming this here but I've finally completed 
> > >> something nixie-based. 
> > 
> > >> I have a bad habit of building prototypes only to add to an ever- 
> > >> growing list of 'features' which inevitably result in a completely 
> new 
> > >> design and software rewrite - so I decided to build something that 
> > >> couldn't suffer from feature creep and wouldn't 'benefit' from 
> > >> humidity sensors, GPS, USB, IR or RF remote or movement activation. 
> > 
> > >> Some pictures and a (not very good) video of it in operation can be 
> > >> found here: 
> > 
> > >>http://www.lasermad.com/?p=235 
> > 
> > >> Hmmm... a PIR sensor might just... I could easily add that to the 
> > >> controller... and a touch switch to deactivate.. or maybe a 
> Zigbee 
> > 
> > >> Tony. 
> > 
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[neonixie-l] Re: OT: fantastic mercury arc rectifier to get

[Lucky]

Well spotted I have messaged the 'seller' (or scammer) to ask them ;)

On Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:03:39 UTC+1, kay486 wrote:
>
> I wonder why there is the same picture as on wikipedia ( 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury-arc_valve )
>
>
>>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube Tester

[Lucky]

What are the safety reasons Jeff?


> "I recommend removing the large electolytic capacitor from the board, and 
> replacing it with a small polyester cap of about .5 to 1uf maximum (for 
> safety reasons)".
>
> Regards, Jeff
>
>  
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube Tester

[Lucky]

Just to add another into the pot...there is always this from kosbo.com: 
http://www.kosbo.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=9&Itemid=18
also on ebay: 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NIXIE-TUBE-POWER-SUPPLY-MODULE-FOR-CLOCK-2-OUTPUTS-/260921320989?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Other&hash=item3cc01f661d

It is a dual voltage supply 5v + 180v I use one for my testing, works a 
treat

On Monday, 11 June 2012 15:12:22 UTC+1, heavyleaded wrote:
>
> Does anyone know what would be a n easy way to light up a tube? I would 
> like to be able to light up individual tubes just to test each digit.
> Thanks in advance.
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Blue Magic Nixie Watch

[Lucky]

GOOOD LOOOKING Michel I want one haha.
Seriously great to see the finished item, does it meet all your/our ;) 
expectations? Anything you would have changed/

On Friday, 18 May 2012 02:15:41 UTC+1, Cobra007 wrote:
>
> G'day Folks! 
>
> It's been about 4 1/2 months since I had a eureka moment of how to 
> design and make my Nixie Watch. It is finally there and guess what, I 
> am wearing it :-). 
>
> I know some people on this forum showed some initial doubts, which I 
> can totally understand, but I finally have something to show. 
>
> Initially I gave it the name "Cold War" as the nixie tubes come from 
> that age, however, my wife re-named it yesterday to "Blue Magic", 
> which describes very well to what it actually is :-). 
>
> Have a look, all comments very welcome! 
>
> Michel 
>
> http://xiac.com/Images/KoprisoNWCW.jpg 
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Kopriso Nixie Watch third glimpse

[Lucky]

Great Michel, looking fine I must say congrats on your hard work. Will be 
interesting to see the case/strap you design for it.

On Thursday, 10 May 2012 08:27:58 UTC+1, Cobra007 wrote:
>
> Programming is almost done! 
> There are 9 settings that the user can change according to his/her 
> preference. This is related to tube brightness, time format, rotation 
> speed, power saving modes and sensor sensitivity. Additionally, there 
> are 2 settings for calibration of the RTCC to fine tune it down to 
> about 2.5sec per month. It also incorporates a 16 bit counter that 
> increments at every time trigger. Battery should last for more than 
> 20,000 triggers under normal circumstances. 
>
> http://youtu.be/n7NGRoVZfIY 
>
> Michel 
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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Watch First Glimpse

[Lucky]

Great little taster (or should that be 'teaser') Michel, look forward to 
seeing you develop it further, must be great seeing it finally take shape.

On Thursday, 12 April 2012 09:50:39 UTC+8, Cobra007 wrote:
>
> I had a bit of time this week to get the first module working. It's 
> not finished yet, at the moment it only counts from 00 to 59, but for 
> as long as that works, the rest is just a bit of coding. 
>
> This video shows the tubes at maximum brightness (which is about 2mA 
> DC average per tube @ 200mA battery current), and afterwards at 
> minimum brightness @ 6mA battery current. Efficiency is about 85% and 
> since I don't use resistors in the HV circuit, all this power is 
> converted into tube power (and a bit for the blue LEDs). 
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AklybAgVMmk 
>
> Michel 
>
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Yet another scope clock

[Lucky]

Something I have noticed Grahame, looks like you have got a nice deep etch 
with a clean cut to it. How calculated was that? And/or was it in and out 
of the bath multiple times until you got it as you liked?

On Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:20:02 UTC, Sgitheach wrote:
>
>
> http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/scope1.html
>
> Enjoy
>
> Grahame
>
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Yet another scope clock

[Lucky]

Yep definitely a nice clock Grahame, great use of such a small tube.
There is certainly enough information there to put together one of our own 
(which I shall be doing) I have in mind a novel case design and like the 
steampunk genre which this lends its self to.


I like your idea David, I would like to see more steampunk orientated 
devices actually using 'machinery' in their design. I came across this 
website the other day of a guy who actually makes homemade crt's I found 
interesting, he makes it sound so easy although you may have already seen 
it http://www.sparkbangbuzz.com/crt/crt6.htm

On Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:20:02 UTC, Sgitheach wrote:
>
>
> http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/scope1.html
>
> Enjoy
>
> Grahame
>
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Yet another scope clock

[Lucky]

Yep definitely a nice clock Grahame, great use of such a small tube.
There is certainly enough information there to put together one of our own 
(which I shall be doing) I have in mind a novel case design and like the 
steampunk genre which this lends its self to.


I like your idea David, I would like to see more steampunk orientated 
devices actually using 'machinery' in their design. I came across this 
website the other day of a guy who actually makes homemade crt's I found 
interesting, he makes it sound so easy although you may have already seen 
it http://www.sparkbangbuzz.com/crt/crt6.htm

Dave


On Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:20:02 UTC, Sgitheach wrote:
>
>
> http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/scope1.html
>
> Enjoy
>
> Grahame
>
>
On Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:20:02 UTC, Sgitheach wrote:
>
>
> http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/scope1.html
>
> Enjoy
>
> Grahame
>
>
On Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:20:02 UTC, Sgitheach wrote:
>
>
> http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/scope1.html
>
> Enjoy
>
> Grahame
>
>
On Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:20:02 UTC, Sgitheach wrote:
>
>
> http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/scope1.html
>
> Enjoy
>
> Grahame
>
>
On Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:20:02 UTC, Sgitheach wrote:
>
>
> http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/scope1.html
>
> Enjoy
>
> Grahame
>
>
On Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:20:02 UTC, Sgitheach wrote:
>
>
> http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/scope1.html
>
> Enjoy
>
> Grahame
>
>
On Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:20:02 UTC, Sgitheach wrote:
>
>
> http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/scope1.html
>
> Enjoy
>
> Grahame
>
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: New top price for B7971's?

[Lucky]

Oy, there is nothing wrong with being called 'Dave'!

Dave ;)

On 6 Mar, 15:35, Jeff Thomas  wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 6, 2012 8:23:47 AM UTC-7, Michail wrote:
>
> >  "Sold For:
>
> > US $575.00"
>
> > Michail
>
> In the auction listing at the bottom:
>
> *"**You may call me (Dave) anytime at (602) xxx-"
> *
> Yeah!  I'd let you call me anything you want if you paid me that much for a
> pair of B7971's :)))
>
> And I'm selling the GPS FLW's complete with enclosure, four tested and
> guaranteed B7971 tubes, GPS receiver, and PS for 
> less...http://www.amug.org/~jthomas/gpsflw.html
>
> Regards, Jeff

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Re: [neonixie-l] Scope clock with a difference

[Lucky]

Very nice Morris well worth the effort you must have put into it.
Dave.

On Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:22:15 UTC, W1SBY wrote:
>
> That is nice! Let us know if you decide to kit them.
>
> 73 de W1SBY
> On Mar 6, 2012 3:27 AM, "morrisodell"  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Here is a video of the prototype of my latest clock. It's a GPS locked
>> scope clock  with a PPI radar type display using a CRT with a P7 type
>> long persistence screen. I haven't finished packaging it up yet and
>> the display should be a little better once the power transformer
>> fields are shielded by the steel case. The focus is razor sharp but
>> the iPhone I used to take the video didn't focus well in the dark.
>>
>> http://youtu.be/RnsaXkfxygo
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>> Morris
>>
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[neonixie-l] Re: Important Lesson Learned Today...

[Lucky]

Wow, slow down chaps, must be a highly talented thing all this having
a dig.
All Michel said (in response to a comment "For future reference, the
TI SN75468 has seven MPSA42s in it") was "They are not exactly the
same, standard MPSA42s are 300V while as the SN75468 is only
100V." (which is true) then all hell breaks loose, lighten up guys,
can't we discuss variables etc?

@Michel..interesting links you gave, had not seen the first 2 before.

@Frank "It is not very common that nixies are powered with _more_ than
180V" Not common but still done which is point in question not how
many times it has been done.

@Nick. From how read it Michel has no 'beef' but is just discussing
possible concerns and provides links to where those concerns may arise
(after it being stated it does not happen!).
"then frankly you deserve all you get" Really? Surely that sort of
attitude is not becoming someone with the amount of intelligence such
as yourself?
"Just so you know for the future, Geert is the son of the sites author
" What so we must not mention his name?
"I suggest before wandering down these sorts of routes you take the
time to look through the archive" Have you ever TRIED searching
through the archives for information? (I have, not easy at all)
besides does he (Michel) need to to discuss a point or two?
"Many of the long-term members here are professional electrical or
electronic engineers and designers" And some of us not and actually
LEARN something by reading these posts! (and hopefully, like myself,
have a "high self-preservation factor"

All I would say guys is..Lighten up a bit, relax, discuss our hobby
without the snide remarks or chest beating, allow someone to have a
different opinion, point out errors in thinking because you/we want to
help each other, you know all the normal stuff that we do after
graduating sandpit lol. (Mountains and Molehills comes to mind) Either
way I thank you all for sharing your knowledge and learn a little bit
every time.

Regards, Dave.







On 27 Feb, 11:48, Nick  wrote:
> On Feb 27, 11:21 am, Cobra007  wrote:
>
> > In short,
>
> > Take a look at Geert's clock here:http://www.dos4ever.com/geert/geert.html
>
> > Now, I do not know Geert but it seems to me he knows quite well what
> > he is doing. Check the HV power supply he uses for his clock and
> > estimate what the DC voltage will be.
>
> ...and he explicitly uses 400V cathode drivers (BF487), states the
> safety issue and isolates the clock in a suitable box.
> Just so you know for the future, Geert is the son of the sites author
> (Ronald Dekker), who works for Philips as is extremely well known
> here.
>
> > Or else, how about this 
> > one?http://www.geocities.ws/podernixie/nixie/index-en.html
>
> Simply a dangerous design. Should never be built.
>
> > Or, jee (although through a transformer), another 
> > one:http://www.ledsales.com.au/kits/in14_clock_instructions.pdf
>
> ...who uses 300V cathode drivers (MPSA42).
>
> I'm not sure what your beef is here - as has been stated by others,
> generally nixies are driven by about 180-200VDC. All you've uncovered
> in your examples are two good designs which use drivers with suitable
> Vceo, and one dangerous design which has no isolation and overdrives
> the cathode switches.
>
> Look, If you want to drive your nixies from 500V, then use suitable
> drivers. If, like probably 95% of the population you use about
> 180-200V to drive them, then 100V Vceo is fine. If you use 100V Vceo
> drivers and 300V on the anodes, then frankly you deserve all you get -
> this is the danger of the Internet...

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Re: ROFF Topic --- e: [neonixie-l] Re: Behavior of nixie tube

[Lucky]

Still off topic but I came across this article today and it shows why
and how our data can be collected and just how important it is (to one
particular company in question) Interesting read I thought.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/shopping-habits.html?pagewanted=1&ref=general&src=me

I thought of starting a new thread "Off topic" to keep active for
these sorts of discussions anyone agree (or not)?
(Anyone would have thought I'm trying to build a sense of 'community'
lol)
Dave. (Not so)
On 20 Feb, 01:28, Lucky  wrote:
> Lol but true Charles
>
> On 20 Feb, 01:21, Charles MacDonald  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 12-02-19 11:44 AM, Lucky wrote:
>
> > > Speed cameras have proven to be NOT effective in the slightest, just
> > > ways of generating money and keeping people in jobs.
>
> > Even worse are the so called "red Light" cameras.  I understand that in
> > many places they are run by a contractor who owns the cameras and gets a
> > cut on the fines generated.  In many places the traffic lights which
> > have cameras have the Yellow light shortened.  The result is first taht
> > many motorists have the sock of the light changing and the camera
> > flashing whne they are not expecting it and second, the accident rates
> > go up at these intersections.
>
> > End of Rant- back to our regularly scheduled Orange Lights.
>
> > --
> > Charles MacDonald                 Stittsville Ontario
> > cm...@zeusprune.ca              Just Beyond the 
> > Fringehttp://users.trytel.com/~cmacd/tubes.html
> > No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail.

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Re: ROFF Topic --- e: [neonixie-l] Re: Behavior of nixie tube

[Lucky]

Lol but true Charles

On 20 Feb, 01:21, Charles MacDonald  wrote:
> On 12-02-19 11:44 AM, Lucky wrote:
>
> > Speed cameras have proven to be NOT effective in the slightest, just
> > ways of generating money and keeping people in jobs.
>
> Even worse are the so called "red Light" cameras.  I understand that in
> many places they are run by a contractor who owns the cameras and gets a
> cut on the fines generated.  In many places the traffic lights which
> have cameras have the Yellow light shortened.  The result is first taht
> many motorists have the sock of the light changing and the camera
> flashing whne they are not expecting it and second, the accident rates
> go up at these intersections.
>
> End of Rant- back to our regularly scheduled Orange Lights.
>
> --
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> cm...@zeusprune.ca              Just Beyond the 
> Fringehttp://users.trytel.com/~cmacd/tubes.html
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[neonixie-l] Re: Another shameless plug - Z302C DEKATRON with bezel

[Lucky]

Lol, I'll answer if you don't mind.
150762238825 I found it with a simple search ;)

On 19 Feb, 18:12, kay486  wrote:
> Could you post the link here?
>
> On Feb 19, 1:38 am, Johns  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have just listed a Z302C dekaton tube in original carton and bezel
> > on eBay Australia with a starting price of $4.99 plus postage.
>
> > This is the remaining one of four - three of which were donated to
> > members of this group.

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[neonixie-l] Re: Behavior of nixie tube

[Lucky]

You are right that is the difference, commercial or not, or is it?
Don't get me wrong I am not a 'conspiracy nut' (Most MP's etc couldn't
organise themselves enough to conspire) but as an example CCTV &
safety. All research has shown that CCTV has NOT reduced the level of
crime nor increased our safety, the UK being the prime example (see my
comment CCTV/Head of population) Most if not all CCTV footage is not
admissible in court (regardless of what people THINK), most CCTV
installation and monitoring is carried out by private contractors.
Speed cameras have proven to be NOT effective in the slightest, just
ways of generating money and keeping people in jobs. Just as the
recent 'roof insulation' fiasco in Oz was dreamt up to generate jobs
NOT to save the public money.
How does the old saying go..."Information is money" All of us live in
a very capitalist world I would speculate that MOST data collection is
to the monetary benefit of corporations somewhere along the line (and
are not our respective governments just revenue collectors for the
'corporation' of our countries?) Sheesh, I sound like 'Occupy' now
haha.

Peace, Dave.
Ps file sent.

On 19 Feb, 12:12, Cobra007  wrote:
> Yes, I would like a copy of that manual Dave, I'll send you an email.
>
> For myself, the difference with all the other forms of monitoring
> people is that most of them are not for commercial use and some of
> them benefit the user in terms as safety (CCTV).
>
> I read somewhere that Facebook is worth about $75 billion, just
> because of all the information it has from so many people.
>
> Michel
>
> On Feb 19, 10:38 am, Lucky  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I know what you mean but unfortunately I think our 'privacy' is a
> > thing of the past. After all it is not only commerce that tracks us
> > but our respective governments too, from using an ATM to debit/credit
> > card transactions, customs/passport control, CCTV (we in the uk have
> > the highest number of CCTV cameras per head of population) it is said
> > in the UK that we can be monitored from start to finish of a journey,
> > beginning with the booking of a ticket or filling up with fuel, to of
> > course the dear old internet, isp's, email etc.
> > I know in the UK, France, the USA and Australia in particular (sure
> > MANY other countries) all have joined forces and monitor every bit of
> > voice & data in and out of the country and share the information
> > gathered.
> > My point being I suppose, is it worth the effort trying to remain
> > anonymous any more? I think it is a battle we have lost, maybe embrace
> > it instead and find a way to use it to our advantage as well. (Then
> > again everyone says I'm a dreamer haha)
>
> > @Cobra you have hit on why my nickname (not so ) Lucky lol.
>
> > I HAVE the mentioned GE Glow Lamp Manual in PDF format if anyone wants
> > it by the way ;) Can it be uploaded to the group somehow? Google docs
> > maybe? &/or I will email anyone who wants it for FREE.
>
> > Dave.
>
> > On 18 Feb, 21:54, Cobra007  wrote:
>
> > > Thanks for figuring that out (not so) Lucky, I absolutely *HATE*
> > > facebook for that particular reason. Anything you want to do there
> > > (even a stupid birthday calendar), you need to share your
> > > information, so far I never subscribed to anything that needs
> > > information sharing. However, it is documents like these that could
> > > change my mind for an instance. Obviously you were on the same
> > > wavelength!
>
> > > I think to setup a phony account is the best way to go, get the file
> > > and share it on BT me thinks (if it is not there already).
>
> > > Michel
>
> > > On Feb 19, 5:33 am, Lucky  wrote:
>
> > > > Hey Grahame thanks for those links especially the GE manual, just what
> > > > I need to brush up on my theory.
>
> > > > As a point of (possible) discussion there is one thing I totally
> > > > disliked. Upon first linking to the site 'Scribd' I/we are greeted
> > > > with a message: "You Must be Logged in to Download a Document...Login
> > > > with Facebook".
>
> > > > Okay thinks I, logging in with Facebook AND giving away all my
> > > > details, allowing Scribd access to my profile , my friends profiles,
> > > > allowing Scribd to post on my wall...allowing Scribd access to my
> > > > wife, to sacrifice my first born etc only to be confronted with a
> > > > message when attempting to downloadnope you can't have th

[neonixie-l] Re: Behavior of nixie tube

[Lucky]

I know what you mean but unfortunately I think our 'privacy' is a
thing of the past. After all it is not only commerce that tracks us
but our respective governments too, from using an ATM to debit/credit
card transactions, customs/passport control, CCTV (we in the uk have
the highest number of CCTV cameras per head of population) it is said
in the UK that we can be monitored from start to finish of a journey,
beginning with the booking of a ticket or filling up with fuel, to of
course the dear old internet, isp's, email etc.
I know in the UK, France, the USA and Australia in particular (sure
MANY other countries) all have joined forces and monitor every bit of
voice & data in and out of the country and share the information
gathered.
My point being I suppose, is it worth the effort trying to remain
anonymous any more? I think it is a battle we have lost, maybe embrace
it instead and find a way to use it to our advantage as well. (Then
again everyone says I'm a dreamer haha)

@Cobra you have hit on why my nickname (not so ) Lucky lol.

I HAVE the mentioned GE Glow Lamp Manual in PDF format if anyone wants
it by the way ;) Can it be uploaded to the group somehow? Google docs
maybe? &/or I will email anyone who wants it for FREE.

Dave.

On 18 Feb, 21:54, Cobra007  wrote:
> Thanks for figuring that out (not so) Lucky, I absolutely *HATE*
> facebook for that particular reason. Anything you want to do there
> (even a stupid birthday calendar), you need to share your
> information, so far I never subscribed to anything that needs
> information sharing. However, it is documents like these that could
> change my mind for an instance. Obviously you were on the same
> wavelength!
>
> I think to setup a phony account is the best way to go, get the file
> and share it on BT me thinks (if it is not there already).
>
> Michel
>
> On Feb 19, 5:33 am, Lucky  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hey Grahame thanks for those links especially the GE manual, just what
> > I need to brush up on my theory.
>
> > As a point of (possible) discussion there is one thing I totally
> > disliked. Upon first linking to the site 'Scribd' I/we are greeted
> > with a message: "You Must be Logged in to Download a Document...Login
> > with Facebook".
>
> > Okay thinks I, logging in with Facebook AND giving away all my
> > details, allowing Scribd access to my profile , my friends profiles,
> > allowing Scribd to post on my wall...allowing Scribd access to my
> > wife, to sacrifice my first born etc only to be confronted with a
> > message when attempting to downloadnope you can't have this unless
> > you pay us money!
> > Okay you only need pay a small sum for one days access or month/yearly
> > or upload something (How much? For 'upload credits'?)
>
> > It is still con trick afaiak, if you have to pay a fee then they
> > should say so upfront NOT after I have given away MY details and all
> > the permissions for facebook etc (which is worth money in its self but
> > I did not charge for!). Let's face it we're already the 'product' not
> > the consumer being on facebook to start with but I am against any site
> > that is not upfront with any fees that may need paying and especially
> > when greeted with such an opening message! I now have to delve into FB
> > to delete those permissions given.
>
> > As an aside there are of course 'ways and means' around it like a
> > greasemonkey script or youtube for instance more than likely posted by
> > people also peeved into sharing their details with nothing in return.
> > Had I been informed from the start that a small fee is payable I would
> > have gladly paid for such an informative (electronic pdf copy of)
> > book. Anyone have any thoughts on this or the like?
>
> > On 18 Feb, 12:04, Grahame Marsh  wrote:
>
> > > I just posted a link to Acton & Swift
>
> > > Neale is here (download a pdf and read online) 
> > > :http://www.archive.org/details/ColdCathodeTubeCircuitDesign
>
> > > Glowlamp manual is 
> > > here:http://www.scribd.com/doc/34672942/General-Electric-Glow-Lamp-Manual-...
>
> > > Any more links folks?
>
> > > On the yahoo site we had a book/magazine section - how can that best be
> > > arranged with google?
>
> > > Grahame
>
> > > On 18/02/2012 11:47, Dekatron42 wrote:
>
> > > > Michel, have you read the books:
>
> > > > Cold Cathode Discharge Tubes by Acton&  Swift
> > > > Cold Cathode Tube Circuit Design by D M Neale
> > > > Glimmr hren und Kaltkatoden-Relaisr

[neonixie-l] Re: Behavior of nixie tube

[Lucky]

Hey Grahame thanks for those links especially the GE manual, just what
I need to brush up on my theory.

As a point of (possible) discussion there is one thing I totally
disliked. Upon first linking to the site 'Scribd' I/we are greeted
with a message: "You Must be Logged in to Download a Document...Login
with Facebook".

Okay thinks I, logging in with Facebook AND giving away all my
details, allowing Scribd access to my profile , my friends profiles,
allowing Scribd to post on my wall...allowing Scribd access to my
wife, to sacrifice my first born etc only to be confronted with a
message when attempting to downloadnope you can't have this unless
you pay us money!
Okay you only need pay a small sum for one days access or month/yearly
or upload something (How much? For 'upload credits'?)

It is still con trick afaiak, if you have to pay a fee then they
should say so upfront NOT after I have given away MY details and all
the permissions for facebook etc (which is worth money in its self but
I did not charge for!). Let's face it we're already the 'product' not
the consumer being on facebook to start with but I am against any site
that is not upfront with any fees that may need paying and especially
when greeted with such an opening message! I now have to delve into FB
to delete those permissions given.

As an aside there are of course 'ways and means' around it like a
greasemonkey script or youtube for instance more than likely posted by
people also peeved into sharing their details with nothing in return.
Had I been informed from the start that a small fee is payable I would
have gladly paid for such an informative (electronic pdf copy of)
book. Anyone have any thoughts on this or the like?

On 18 Feb, 12:04, Grahame Marsh  wrote:
> I just posted a link to Acton & Swift
>
> Neale is here (download a pdf and read online) 
> :http://www.archive.org/details/ColdCathodeTubeCircuitDesign
>
> Glowlamp manual is 
> here:http://www.scribd.com/doc/34672942/General-Electric-Glow-Lamp-Manual-...
>
> Any more links folks?
>
> On the yahoo site we had a book/magazine section - how can that best be
> arranged with google?
>
> Grahame
>
> On 18/02/2012 11:47, Dekatron42 wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Michel, have you read the books:
>
> > Cold Cathode Discharge Tubes by Acton&  Swift
> > Cold Cathode Tube Circuit Design by D M Neale
> > Glimmr hren und Kaltkatoden-Relaisr hren by Otto Paul Herrnkind
> > Glowlamp Manual by General Electric
> > Kaltkatodenrelaisr hren Dekadenz hlr hren by DR Roland H bner
> > Kaltkatodenr hren by Greiff
> > Electronic Counting Circuits Techniques&  Devices by MULLARD
> > Ziffernanzieger hren by VALVO
>
> > There is a lot about what happens inside a cold cathode tube in those
> > books with explanations about charge, deionization and stuff - way
> > above my head but it gave me a good ground to stand on when trying to
> > understand more about what happens inside these tubes, and it was
> > enough for me to understand it at a basic level.
>
> > There are of course many more books that describe these phenomena, but
> > those are the ones that I have borrowed from libraries and looked
> > into.
>
> > /Martin
>
> > On 18 Feb, 11:56, Cobra007  wrote:
> >> I think you're right and that would explain why I can't really measure
> >> the capacitive component. You're talking about negative resistance, I
> >> had not looked at it that way but it sounds very reasonable, the
> >> voltage over the tube will decay while the resistance increases so
> >> that would indeed be negative.
>
> >> I do indeed use a pulse with series resistor, I let the voltage drop
> >> from say 150V down to say 100V to turn the tube off. Normally, with a
> >> capacitive load, the tube's cathode would then immediately drop to
> >> -50V. This doesn't happen, it doesn't even go below 0V most likely
> >> because the negative resistance wins over the capacitive properties.
>
> >> I think the inductive component is very small. At some frequency it
> >> should resonate I would assume but I can't see that in my step
> >> response so the inductance must be very very small.
>
> >> Michel
>
> >> On Feb 18, 1:51 am, John Rehwinkel  wrote:
>
>  How does a nixie behave in the first few hundred micro seconds after
>  switching off. Is it resistive, capacitive or inductive? I would
>  assume it to be capacitive but that is not exactly what I measure.
> >>> That's a really good question, and I'll admit I haven't attempted to 
> >>> measure it.  So, in the grand tradition, I'll take a guess at it.  Said 
> >>> guess is that the plasma stays ionized for a bit before the atoms settle 
> >>> back down to ground state, so it would have the electrical properties of 
> >>> an ionized plasma, which would be: negative resistance.  This would decay 
> >>> to capacitance as the gas became nonconductive.  there's of course 
> >>> inductance from the leads, and the capacitance and inductance are 
> >>> distributed (especially in larger nixies), maki

[neonixie-l] Re: Question on haze around nixie digit

[Lucky]

Tis strange how the brain works. I sub-consciously knew that 'U' stood
for voltage, but never thought about it. I suppose being from the UK
that I see Volts written as U quite often so never questioned it nor
knew those over the water are not familiar. Did get me thinking
though, where does the 'U' originate, closest I can find is that U is
for Unterschied, which in German means "difference"  (as in potential
difference). Is that the correct translation? Vorsprung durch Technik
indeed!
But when we started using it I have no idea. One day we were all using
the standard 'V' then suddenly 'U' crept in and made it's self at
home! Of course we also use 'U' to mean the standard 19" or 23"  rack
mount unit. 1U=1-3/4". Maybe it has more uses than those?

"And it won’t stop folks from inventing either. " Thank goodness for
that, the more inventions the better IMHO.

Now, can anyone answer my question as to why the nixies showed a
bright blue spot when I reversed the polarity, what is happening to
cause it?


On 16 Feb, 16:36, David Forbes  wrote:
> On 2/16/12 9:27 AM, Dieter Waechter wrote:
>
> > I forgot the "U" is not so well known at Neonixie.
> > U = the formula symbol according to DIN 1304 for the Voltage.
> > Dieter
>
> I only know that U means voltage because I work on a fine German telescope.
>
> --
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Re: [neonixie-l] Question on haze around nixie digit

[Lucky]

Don't know who is worse here.
Dieter for first stating 'Ucc' (I think maybe we are talking Vcc?) 
Regardless Ucc had been taken to mean something "cold cathode voltage" Have 
you not bothered to read the entire thread?
Me for repeating the same (or maybe just being naive)
Or 3 useless replies 2 of which are sarcastic, and one mocking the 
'Invention' word which I thought we had finished with!

Do you not wish to help anyone out? Do you not have anything to add, 
informational or knowledgeable wise? If not why answer? Just to mock? And I 
notice you did not jump all over Deiter when he said "Second, the lower the 
Ucc (cold cathode voltage) the higher the haze"
Talk about childish! Sorry I posted.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Question on haze around nixie digit

[Lucky]

 
 
 Don't know who is worse here.
Dieter for first stating 'Ucc' (I think maybe we are talking Vcc?) 
Regardless Ucc had been taken to mean something "cold cathode voltage" Have 
you not bothered to read the entire thread?
Me for repeating the same (or maybe just being naive)
Or 3 useless replies 2 of which are sarcastic, and one mocking the 
'Invention' word which I thought we had finished with!

Do you not wish to help anyone out? Do you not have anything to add, 
informational or knowledgeable wise? If not why answer? Just to mock? And I 
notice you did not jump all over Deiter when he said "Second, the lower the 
Ucc (cold cathode voltage) the higher the haze"
Talk about childish! Sorry I posted.
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[neonixie-l] Re: Question on haze around nixie digit

[Lucky]

Hope you don't mind me jumping in on this thread. I apologise if so,
but seemed relevant and I think Dylan has been answered.
Regarding blue spots: I am of the understanding that if you drive a
nixie with too low a Ucc that a blue stop may appear (although still
do not understand why?) I was testing some Mullard ZM1177's the other
day with a jury rigged hv supply on a breadboard with an appropriate
anode resistor, as I tested the 3rd one a blue spot appeared in it,
same with next, quite bright too. I then realised I had connected the
tube reverse polarity ie neg to anode (teach me to use same coloured
jumper wires). Reconnecting anode to pos and all is well.
My question: Why does the blue spot appear with the polarity reversed
and I didn't think a nixie would light (properly) in such conditions.
Would be grateful if someone could steer me in the right direction.

Dave.

On 16 Feb, 04:42, "Dieter Waechter"  wrote:
> The purple, pinkish or peachy haze comes from the different additional gases
> and the mercury inside the tube.
> You may find out from the spectrum (in some cases) what mixture is in the
> tube.
> Second, the lower the Ucc (cold cathode voltage) the higher the haze. And
> the more blurred the glow.
> IN extreme cases (Ucc too low) the haze become ghost spots in the tube
> (known as the blue spot problem at IN-18 tubes)
> To get a high definition readout, ot the best you can get out of the tube,
> drive it without Ucc in direct drive.
> Dieter

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[neonixie-l] Re: Scope Pocket Watch movie

[Lucky]

I would have to agree with you Michel, just quoting the Latin word's
literal meaning (in this case "I found out"(?)) does not convey the
nuances or why/when/how that word was used and it what context. I'm
sure we ALL could give examples of Latin words and their literal
meaning but without context mean nothing (as with translating from all
languages) As was once said to me without context you do not get the
'flavour' of the word.

If we look to http://www.latin-dictionary.org/inventio (JM Latin-
English Dictionary) it give us the meaning of 'inventio' as "invention/
discovery (action/thing); action of devising/planning; plan/
stratagem", 'invenio' as come upon; discover| find; invent| contrive;
reach| manage to get, and the Oxford English dictionary defines
'invention' as "the action of inventing something, typically a process
or device" and the U.S. Patent Law  "a new, useful process, machine,
improvement, etc., that did not exist previously and that is
recognized as the product of some unique intuition or genius, as
distinguished from ordinary mechanical skill or craftsmanship"

I think the Latin-English translation "action of devising" far better
describes what we are discussing (and what David has produced) rather
than "I found out", ie a new device and unique is produced (from
existing technology)

Dave.


On 15 Feb, 23:54, Cobra007  wrote:
> IMO even the original meaning of the word would have included that the
> 'invention' should be something which is not obvious to other people
> skilled in the same field. For example, going back 2000 years, I could
> have "found out" a road that leads to Rome and claim this as my
> "invention". However, there were many roads that lead to Rome and of
> course someone has put them there for very obvious reasons, so
> although "i found out this road" it is not an invention.
>
> Same counts for nixie tubes, it is quite obvious you can use them to
> make a clock, but much less obvious to make a watch as you need a HVPS
> and cramp the whole lot in a very tiny enclosure. Since there was no
> nixie watch before Jeff made one, you can claim that as his invention.
> In the same group falls this pocket scope watch, it being the first
> one ever built, you can call that an invention. But I was not
> referring to the watch as such, I was focused on how the CRT displayed
> the numbers. Composed Lissajous segments, but as per Martin and Nick,
> this method was invented long before the scope pocket watch.
>
> I do agree it is indeed very difficult to place a border line as to
> what is and what is not an invention. Maybe it was easier in Roman
> times as modern day inventions are indeed mainly based on previous
> inventions. But then, even the good old Trebuchet is most likely
> derived from the more ancient Shadoufs
>
> Michel
>
> On Feb 16, 9:48 am, Quixotic Nixotic  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 15 Feb 2012, at 21:24, Cobra007 wrote:
>
> > > Well honestly, I do think an invention *must* be defined as "I
> > > found out what nobody else has found out before", no matter what
> > > the Latin word truly means. I find out many things in 1 day, but
> > > they are not unique nor would I call them inventions :-).
>
> > OK, make up your own rules, but that is not the original meaning of
> > the word. All finding out is based on what someone found out before
> > you. Language, logical thinking, principles of electronics. You are
> > not going to make a nixie watch that you can claim is your sole
> > property or invention, for instance.
>
> > I say to find out, pure and simple, is a more honest and less
> > conceited way to look at the word invention. A disaster is a bad
> > astrological reading of the stars, a dis-aster. I think we changed
> > that word too. I get more of those than inventions, but then I don't
> > know much about electronics.
>
> > John S

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[neonixie-l] Re: Scope Pocket Watch movie

[Lucky]

Now there's something I really want to build (Scope clock) I'm hoping
there is enough information/parts etc to build towards the end of the
year (with of course HWMBO's permission) ;) One would look fantastic
in my room.

On 15 Feb, 16:57, J Forbes  wrote:
> Wow...the Scope Clock page was last updated in 2005. Time flies!
>
> http://www.cathodecorner.com/sc100.html
>
> Jim

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[neonixie-l] Re: Burned K155ID1 chips?

[Lucky]

I mod quite a few of the supplies and always use a 10 ohm 10W Wire-
wound resistor across the 5v line such as these, ebay listing
400275651219. Find the supplies 12v tend to run rock solid loaded or
unloaded. I normally cable tie one to the metal work inside (through
the vents) to aid cooling the resistor. Worth trying, not as
impressive as the headlight but a lot smaller ;-)

Dave

On 14 Feb, 19:51, Adam Jacobs  wrote:
> I've definitely done that, the volkswagon headlights work best, the 6v
> kind. Or sometimes you can find a really big rheostat. These kinds of
> things are great for when you want to drain a battery or put a lot of
> load on a circuit.
>
> -Adam
>
> On 2/14/2012 11:48 AM, Imbanon wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > The good news is that one of the chips isn't fried, and is working
> > well on the current setup.
> > And I love the car headlight idea! It would be a pretty crazy sight on
> > a work table :)
>
> > On Feb 13, 3:39 pm, dr pepper  wrote:
> >> If your using an old pc supply, that in itself could be the issue.
> >> Pc supplied are switch mode and require a minimum load, if you dont
> >> pull enough current on the 5v line then there will eb issues, drop
> >> out, switching noise etc.
> >> You need a 'swamp' resistor on the 5v, to dump about an amp, I've used
> >> an old car headlight bulb on the odd ocaision just as a temporary
> >> measure.
>
> >> On 10 Feb, 16:32, micha...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >>> So, it sounds exactly like what I said earlier, although you have 2 stuck
> >>> bits.
> >>> I ran into this once, but it was my bad solder job.   I would  double 
> >>> check
> >>> that first, and if it doesn't fix then simply replace the  chip.  The cost
> >>> of the chip is cheap compare to the time you have spent  trying to repair.
> >>> I don't believe the chip can be repaired anyway.  :(
> >>> Michail
> >>> In a message dated 2/10/2012 8:20:30 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> >>> imba.a...@gmail.com writes:
> >>> I did  full testings of the chip. I found out that the first two bits
> >>> are stuck on  01. So instead of  I get 0100.
> >>> This means I only got outputs 4, 5, 6,  7, and so on repeating itself
> >>> (instead of 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 its 4, 5, 6,  7, 4, 5, 6, 7, 4, 5,...
> >>> even for the last 6 outputs that were supposed to  all give 0)

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[neonixie-l] Re: Mercury - couple pics

[Lucky]

Great vid Michel, exactly the same as what I was trying to describe
and forgot that yes they clean the plate with arsenic too. Typical
Ossie, when asked "did they know of the dangers of mercury back
then"..."Oh yeah, they knew...just paid em more and they stopped work
when they got severe headaches and black fingernails" No worries lol


On 10 Feb, 04:55, Cobra007  wrote:
> I just uploaded a video that I recorded in 2009 in Old Mogo Town. It
> shows a rock crushing machine for extracting gold and a good
> explanation. Also some info about the mercury they used and that they
> were aware of it's poisonous character.
>
> http://youtu.be/8_Ft7am1vUk
>
> I though it was quite interesting, so that's why I put it up.
>
> Michel

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[neonixie-l] Re: Class action lawsuit...

[Lucky]

Visited a place just like that but in Victoria in the 70's, remember
we went panning for opals, I found one and has a ring made from it and
gave it to a girlfriend. Good ol days lol.(Back over in march for 6
weeks, Perth and Brisbane) Back on topic I wonder if any of those
workers suffered ill health from working with mercury?

On 10 Feb, 01:58, Cobra007  wrote:
> Nice one Lucky. A couple of years we visited "Old Mogo 
> Town"http://www.oldmogotown.com.au/
>
> The gold was extracted from the rocks exactly how you describe it. I
> also raised the question there about the mercury used. According to
> the guide, they did know at that time already that mercury wasn't good
> for you in those quantities but the people who worked the closest to
> the mercury had very high pays and would only do so for about 6
> months.
>
> Michel
>
> On Feb 10, 12:47 pm, Lucky  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On my of my visits to Western Australia I went to a place called
> > 'Paynes Find' owned by a then 62 year old woman. There she operates
> > 'paynes find gold battery' the only battery in WA. Starting from her
> > grandfather she owns and operates a 100 year old machine that crushes
> > gold ore by battering them with huge logs acting as hammers connected
> > to a belt driven wooden cam. The crushed ore slurry is then poured
> > over a large mercury-wetted copper plate sluice gold particles bond
> > with the mercury and become an amalgam. The mercury is constantly
> > scrapped off/renewed from the copper plate and then BOILED off to
> > extract the fine gold particles and the mercury condensed and reused.
>
> > The only heath and safety equipment being a pair of gloves to handle
> > the hot containers! No sealed containers, no 'safe room' all just done
> > in a tin building/open air, just kettles and glass containers! I asked
> > Mrs Taylor if she thought about the safety concerns her reply was
> > alone the lines of 'Mercury, pah!  Her, her grandfather, her father
> > and all their siblings had done this since 1939 and all lived a
> > healthy long life!' Not a care in the world, she still daily climbs
> > down rope ladders, sets dynamite, blasts and extracts gold ore herself
> > as well as crushing for any prospectors who arrive. She also always
> > takes a bucket with her when taking her dogs for a walk as she
> > generally find a few gold bearing rocks 'laying around' the bush!
>
> > I have just read (see link) that she has recently sold her gold-mining
> > tenements to the tune of AU$3 million + shares and options, not a bad
> > retirement fund at 67 I guess, the battery is now a 
> > museum.http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/west-australian-familys-g...
> > Some good pictures in the slide show
>
> > > There's a class action law suit being launched in the USA (where
> > > else!) claiming injury due to the mercury in tubes/valves,
> > > specifically rectifiers. Several "surplus"-type suppliers are
> > > mentioned.
>
> > > No-one has raised the spectre of nixies, most of which contain
> > > mercury. Just some joyous thing for those of you who sell them
> > > commercially to be aware of!
>
> > > "http://www.cascadesurplus.com/lawsuit/
>
> > > A number of popular suppliers are named in the lawsuit, including
> > > Antique Electronic Supply, Allied Electronics, Angela Instruments, MCM
> > > Electronics, VacuumTubes.com, Surplus Sales of Nebraska, and Triode
> > > Electronics, to name a few. Ebay had also been named a defendant, but
> > > they successfully moved to get dropped from the case because they do
> > > not manufacture vacuum tubes."
>
> > > Nick

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[neonixie-l] Re: Class action lawsuit...

[Lucky]

On my of my visits to Western Australia I went to a place called
'Paynes Find' owned by a then 62 year old woman. There she operates
'paynes find gold battery' the only battery in WA. Starting from her
grandfather she owns and operates a 100 year old machine that crushes
gold ore by battering them with huge logs acting as hammers connected
to a belt driven wooden cam. The crushed ore slurry is then poured
over a large mercury-wetted copper plate sluice gold particles bond
with the mercury and become an amalgam. The mercury is constantly
scrapped off/renewed from the copper plate and then BOILED off to
extract the fine gold particles and the mercury condensed and reused.

The only heath and safety equipment being a pair of gloves to handle
the hot containers! No sealed containers, no 'safe room' all just done
in a tin building/open air, just kettles and glass containers! I asked
Mrs Taylor if she thought about the safety concerns her reply was
alone the lines of 'Mercury, pah!  Her, her grandfather, her father
and all their siblings had done this since 1939 and all lived a
healthy long life!' Not a care in the world, she still daily climbs
down rope ladders, sets dynamite, blasts and extracts gold ore herself
as well as crushing for any prospectors who arrive. She also always
takes a bucket with her when taking her dogs for a walk as she
generally find a few gold bearing rocks 'laying around' the bush!

I have just read (see link) that she has recently sold her gold-mining
tenements to the tune of AU$3 million + shares and options, not a bad
retirement fund at 67 I guess, the battery is now a museum.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/west-australian-familys-goldmining-tenements-are-worth-a-fortune/story-e6frg6nf-1225939384607
Some good pictures in the slide show
> There's a class action law suit being launched in the USA (where
> else!) claiming injury due to the mercury in tubes/valves,
> specifically rectifiers. Several "surplus"-type suppliers are
> mentioned.
>
> No-one has raised the spectre of nixies, most of which contain
> mercury. Just some joyous thing for those of you who sell them
> commercially to be aware of!
>
> "http://www.cascadesurplus.com/lawsuit/
>
> A number of popular suppliers are named in the lawsuit, including
> Antique Electronic Supply, Allied Electronics, Angela Instruments, MCM
> Electronics, VacuumTubes.com, Surplus Sales of Nebraska, and Triode
> Electronics, to name a few. Ebay had also been named a defendant, but
> they successfully moved to get dropped from the case because they do
> not manufacture vacuum tubes."
>
> Nick

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[neonixie-l] Re: Class action lawsuit...

[Lucky]

"So lots of schoolboys
would break open a thermometer and coat the ha'penny with the
mercury
to make it silver and pass it off as a shilling"

Hate to admit it, I was one of those boys. I was 'hero' of the class
for a short term when I showed them that trick lol, our class was
banned from having access to/use any mercury but had a friendly lab
assistant (I'm sure he was a prefect) who sold us a small jar of it.
Them were the days haha.
Dave.

On 9 Feb, 11:18, jb-electronics  wrote:
> Sure, 1m^3 would be fine ;-) Don't worry, in that case other rules will
> kick in...
>
> Jens
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > You mean that if they were 1mx1mx1m with 1m3 of mercury it would be
> > fine? World is weirder than I thought...
> > I would just use them not telling anybody what's in those tiny, tiny
> > tubes. Or tell them it's getter.
> > Then you crack those tubes open in some other location. And you are
> > not exposing anybody to the deadliest of the metals. The only thing
> > offended is the law. :D
> > Marcin
>
> > On 9 Feb, 11:37, jb-electronics  wrote:
> >> a good idea, but the problem is the dimensions. Legally, everything
> >> smaller than 2mm (in any direction) counts as an "open" device. Since
> >> these small Hg givers are very small, they are considered as open
> >> devices, and thus I am not allowed to use them. It is very frustrating...

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[neonixie-l] Re: IN-18 Blue Dream Nixie Clock available now!!!

[Lucky]

I think it's a great clock stuffed full of features and would really
like one but I too think it is on the expensive side. 179 Euro (inc
tax I'm in the UK) just for the board kit + you have to buy the needed
transformer @24 Euro + the colons @19 Euro separately! Surely a
critical part (transformer) should be included in the basic kit?
Agreeing that Cobra007 is not comparing like for like the sven board
is still only 119 Euro WITH tubes or we could look at Konstantins
IN-18 board WITH tubes for 300 Euro.

I suppose Dieter has priced it to recoup his development costs
although the case is overpriced imho and I would not buy it, and as
for "the surface finish was developed exclusively for those clocks - I
can only imagine that this took quite some time to work out. " I think
you/we are getting carried away with the advertising spin after all
there is only so many finishes you can achieve and I'm sure this has
been done before somewhere. I don't mind being contradicted on the
finish but I would like to know what this "exclusive" finish is then

Nice clock, shame about the price, shame about the confusing multisite
ordering, it's impossible to even make up a barebones kit without
multiple ordering, something to consider.
On 9 Feb, 09:43, jb-electronics  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> personally I think that the "IN-18 Blue Dream" and the "Sven" Nixie
> clocks cannot be compared, for several reasons:
>
> First, you already mentioned the IN-18 tubes, they are much more costy.
> But this also poses a technological problem: While it is rather easy to
> supply 12mA = 6 * 2mA for IN-14 tubes, IN-18 tubes are much more power
> hungry. You cannot buy those SMPSs on Ebay (if you want your tube clock
> to be quiet, that is).
>
> Secondly, I think a stainless steel housing is much more expensive in
> the making than laser-cut acrylic. Read the description, the surface
> finish was developed exclusively for those clocks - I can only imagine
> that this took quite some time to work out.
>
> Also, Dieter's clock is battery buffered (we are talking about 10 years
> here) and I did not see if "Sven" also is. For me, this will always be
> the key argument for or against a clock. I do not like reprogramming a
> clock every morning at the office when I turned it off the other evening.
>
> I am not a clock-expert, I merely collect tubes, so I cannot really put
> a price on clocks since I do not purchase them :-) All I can say is that
> these two clocks are very different in their appearance and aim at quite
> different buyers.
>
> Best regards,
> Jens
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I wonder where exactly the price of this clock comes from. You can buy
> > the Sven clock including GPS receiver for 200 euro.
> >http://nixiekits.eu/Sven.htm
>
> > The tubes will be a bit more expensive, but it still doesn't add up.
>
> > Michel
>
> > On Feb 9, 10:22 am, micha...@aol.com wrote:
> >> DL1 is an awesome clock.
>
> >> I still have mine on order  (Hint: Lawrence!)
>
> >> Michail
>
> >> In a message dated 2/8/2012 2:56:05 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>
> >> markpeters...@btinternet.com writes:
>
> >> How does it stack up against the fantastic DL1 ?
>
> >> _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxhP6paGFFc_
> >> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxhP6paGFFc)
> >> --

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[neonixie-l] Re: Playing around in Inventor

[Lucky]

Either way I for one like it. I would even wear it myself 'ladies'
label or not. My own personal opinion is also that a wider strap suits
it (or me better), looking at the range of straps available I'm sure
someone could find the one that suits them. So long as it has some
'standard' size/fitment and a basic strap them the user could choose/
fit their own maybe?
Jumping well ahead I would hope the case and its material looks
suitably of the era (cold war?) or even older.

"First we want women to show more ankle, then cleavage, now we want
them to
show more tube!!! What is this world coming too? "
Luv it, lol!

On 8 Feb, 15:34, J Forbes  wrote:
> On Feb 8, 8:08 am, micha...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > I think you're right.
>
> > Probably better to call it Nixie Watch GEN 2 or GEN II
>
> I think the proper term from the Nixie era is "Mark II".
>
> Jim

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch madness

[Lucky]

Thanks for that comprehensive answer Jeff.
I think the risks are too high (for me) to produce anything using
these cells atm although I'm sure they will vastly improve over time,
they've come such along way already I know how they have made electric
powered aircraft so feasible with power and flight times only dreamed
of a few years ago. (I quite fancy getting into RC helicopters &/or
something turbine powered later this year)

On 3 Feb, 17:48, Jeff Thomas  wrote:
> On Feb 3, 8:42 am, Lucky  wrote:
>
> > On this subject do you think these are a good idea?
>
> >http://www.all-battery.com/browseproducts/Protection-circuit-Module-%...
>
> > I have a nixie clock circuit that uses a LiPo or Li-Ion as backup but
> > unsure of its charging capabilities
>
> > Dave.
>
> Hello Dave,
> Using a backup power source based on Lithium polymer technology is a
> good choice if you need a lot of power/energy contained in a small
> package, and you do not intend to commercially market the item.
>
> Some secondary cells include a "management module" that functions as a
> sort of rudimentary BMS, limiting the EOC (End of Charge) voltage.
> Others may include a LV (Low Voltage) cutoff to gate the output when
> the cell charge is nearly depleted. Depending on how elaborate you
> want to go, there are integrated products being offered by half a
> dozen US manufacturers to deliver a comprehensive histogram of the
> cell performance throughout it's service life.
> If you happen to choose a Cobalt doped LiPo chemistry, the peak EOC
> voltage is 4.2 @25 degrees C. The safe operation voltage is typically
> between 3.7 and 3.0, referenced to a 1c discharge. Manganese doping is
> scaled a little lower at 3.7v EOC, and operation between 3.3 and 2.8
> volts.
>
> You'll a charge voltage source the same as the EOC, with current that
> does not exceed a 1c rate. Small switching wall warts for use as
> simple chargers are broadly offered at these termination voltages.
>
> Being a long time RC hobby flyer, the advancements in both cathode/
> anode and electrolyte technology has been stunning over the last five
> years. Besides the cathode materials depositions, the separator
> thickness has shrank to micron scaling. Discharge rates of 50x the
> rated Ah capacity are commonplace now.
>
> Almost all of these cells and related support electronics are
> manufactured in China.
>
> Using this type of cell chemistry outside of the intended hobby RC
> market comes with a lot of responsibility.
> Cells rated for human-exposure applications are significantly more
> expensive than the Chinese made hobby market products, and the choices
> are limited for a reason. Manufacturers who have integrated these
> cells into their hand held (or wrist worn) products have considerable
> engineering hours conducted on volumes of cells to gauge their
> performance and safety within the intended application. Along with
> full traceability of the components and manufacturing process cycle.
> There are still a lot of trade secrets involved in this technology.
>
> You assume all risks by selling a product that includes Chinese hobby
> market LiPo cells integrated into the design. If you are a PE with an
> insurance policy, you'd need to check with your underwriter to see if
> your coverage spans this type of exposure.
>
> Regards, Jeff

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch madness

[Lucky]

That's a case of 'Doh' my fault did not fully read the description
closely enough cheers David.
I understand (Although never knew about) your points of a lower Vmax
charge/ less than 100%, so...
any circuit suggestions anyone?

On 3 Feb, 16:51, David Forbes  wrote:
> On 2/3/12 8:42 AM, Lucky wrote:
>
> > On this subject do you think these are a good idea?
>
> >http://www.all-battery.com/browseproducts/Protection-circuit-Module-%...
>
> > I have a nixie clock circuit that uses a LiPo or Li-Ion as backup but
> > unsure of its charging capabilities
>
> > Dave.
>
> It's best to buy a cell with the protection circuit already installed,
> such as the one that I linked to.
>
> As Jeff points out, it's also a very good idea to provide a second level
> of protection, preferably with a lower Vmax to ensure that the cell
> doesn't get overcharged, or even 100% charged. 4.1V is recommended as
> the maximum charging voltage per cell for longer life. And a charge
> cutoff timer is essential as well.
>
> That's a curious thing about LiPos - they live a lot longer when left
> partially charged than when left fully charged.
>
> --
> David Forbes, Tucson AZ

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch madness

[Lucky]

On this subject do you think these are a good idea?

http://www.all-battery.com/browseproducts/Protection-circuit-Module-%28-PCB-%29-for-3.7V-Li-Polymer-Battery-%288.5A-limit%29-PCB1S.html

I have a nixie clock circuit that uses a LiPo or Li-Ion as backup but
unsure of its charging capabilities

Dave.

On 3 Feb, 12:53, Jeff Thomas  wrote:
> On Feb 2, 9:34 pm, David Forbes  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Well, I'm back at it, designing the ladies' Nixie watch. Someone's got
> > to do it.
>
> > I have some samples of this battery, or an equivalent thereof...
>
> >http://www.all-battery.com/browseproducts/Polymer-Li-Ion-Battery-3.7V...
>
> > It seems to be able to power my two digit Nixie watch with a 0.25V droop
> > at full load of 200mA. I calculate a two week lifetime at 50 views per
> > day. I'll be experimenting with it on my wrist.
>
> > I also have been playing with the use of standard low-profile 2mm
> > dual-row socket strips for socketing the Nixie tubes. Samtec CLT is the
> > ticket - only 2mm tall. Sockets are way better than no sockets.
>
> > Now to see if I can fit it all together into an impossibly small package.
>
> > --
> > David Forbes, Tucson AZ
>
> Where have I seen that before?
> Oh yeah:http://www.amug.org/~jthomas/watch2.html
> The LiPo cell is my energy source for the redux watch electronics.
> There is much more to cell cycle management than you can see in those
> images.
>
> Don't package it a sealed enclosure assembly like your last one.
>
> Careful HV *and* LV cutoff threshold, with thermal scaling, is a
> design responsibility that my former employer didn't address seriously
> enough. Separator defects through contamination are a serious
> consideration with any prismatic Lithium Polymer chemistry 
> choice.http://tinyurl.com/7zpn4lu
>
> My oldest son and I enjoy flying high performance micro heli's using
> that particular cell. And even though they appear perfectly fine at
> preflight, we've had two cells puff unexpectedly, and one ignited
> midway through it's flight to destroy the airframe.  Not something you
> could tolerate occurring on someone's wrist.
>
> Please be careful.
>
> Regards, Jeff

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[neonixie-l] NL-8091's for sale on ebay

[Lucky]

Hi all I am in no way associated with this but thought someone in the
group maybe interested in this ebay item No.220944106131 on the US
site.
It's a rack mount case with 6x pre-wired sockets and 6x NL-8091 end
view nixies. Too much for me (I have just been told so!) but think its
a great start for someone, not that I know the value of the particular
tubes.
Dave.

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[neonixie-l] Re: Hello from Sydney

[Lucky]

Wow Frank, whilst we could accuse Michel of being 'over exuberant' I
don't think (I hope our fellow forum members) there is any need to be
rude! How about doing our best to keep it polite and friendly?

Michel I wish you the best in your venture and look forward to seeing
your results, you are obviously very passionate about your work, I
would suggest you try to be more empathetical/sensitive to others
work. I get where you're coming from mate (the ex aussie is coming out
in me now lol) others maybe a bit more more sensitive.

On 30 Jan, 08:42, "Frank Bemelman"  wrote:
> Michel,
>
> Seems that you know everything. It also seems
> that your only interest is to show off how good you are
> and how stupid everybody else is.
>
> The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Sofar you
> have only shown a meaningless 3d rendering of a
> board and a lot of crap talk.
>
> You would do _me_ a favour if you shut up until you have
> something solid to report.
>
> Frank
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> From: Cobra007
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 9:04 AM
> To: neonixie-l
> Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Hello from Sydney
>
> I did in fact take all of that into account, that's why I mentioned
> I'd be happy to get 14dB dimming out of it (20 - 6)

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[neonixie-l] Re: New clock

[Lucky]

Excellent Jon "and much more" how much more could you fit in? haha
Mmm can see me wanting one of these as a kit too

On 25 Jan, 02:02, Jon  wrote:
> As some of you know, a few years ago I made a little numitron clock
> using IV-9 and IV-16 tubes hooked up to run off a USB port. Dinky
> little thing.
>
> So it felt like time to think about something bigger. And then it all
> got a bit out of hand...
>
> http://youtu.be/4FnxWsp58EM
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Jon.

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[neonixie-l] Re: valve data book price

[Lucky]

Seems like there are collectors for these manuals (it lists valve
characteristics/pin numbering (with some errors)) for use with an avo
valve meter.
Here is a link to a pdf copy of the 23th edition
http://frank.pocnet.net/instruments/AVO/MF/100815_AVO_VDM_23.pdf
certainly a lot of valves covered for sure.

On a site/forum I use I  found mention of it. One person has 16+
different editions  and interestingly is looking to buy a copy of the
4th ed and user name of Dekatron! Here if you want to follow the
thread http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?t=65328

On 23 Jan, 02:59, threeneurons  wrote:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/270895509819
>
> What's the significance of this book ? Is it a data book, or does it
> contain actual details about tube (valve) fabrication.?
>
> Seems to be a battle between only 2 bidders, so far. One of them only
> has a feedback score of 2. Could be one, or both, had personal
> connections with the company. In that case, they would bid a company
> phone directory up to similar numbers.

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[neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

[Lucky]

>From the National Grid (Who supply/transmit our electricity) "System
frequency will therefore vary around the 50 Hz target and National
Grid has statutory obligations to maintain the frequency within +/-
0.5Hz around this level. However, National Grid normally operates
within more stringent 'operational limits' which are set at +/- 0.2Hz.
"
The figure of 50Hz is derived from the alternators rotational speed of
3000rpm, 3200rpm/60Hz for the US. Most government institutions from
the Post Office to the Railways used to use mains driven clocks and it
was made statutory that the frequency would always average out at
50Hz.
Whilst trying to find WHY we chose 3000 and the US 3200 (Which I
didn't find) I did come across some interesting sites one being the
National Grid themselves with a 'live' frequency graph here:
http://www.nationalgrid.com/uk/Electricity/Data/Realtime/Frequency/Freq60.htm
and a snazzy live meter here: http://www.dynamicdemand.co.uk/grid.htm#

Even better, who says Nixie clocks are not accurate? See:
http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/atomic-nixie/ including one of David
Forbes Scopeclocks both "accurate to a few nanoseconds a day"!

On 18 Jan, 20:00, Dutchgray  wrote:
> > I guess that the additional question would be: How stable is the mains
> > frequency in the UK?
>
> Its supposed to be stable and analogue clocks driven from the mains
> were once the norm in public buildings. I would use it as a time base.

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[neonixie-l] Re: IN-14 bases

[Lucky]

I would like to thank Konstantin for sending me 6 spacers FOC
Happy days.
Dave

On 1 Jan, 15:33, Lucky  wrote:
> Wow an early christmas present, that would be great thanks
> Konstantin.
> I will send you an email with my address.
>
> Cheers, Dave.
>
> On 1 Jan, 13:27, "kosbo.com"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Dave,
>
> > I have only 6 spacers, they are white-ish, but slightly differerent in
> > colour
> > Let me know if you would like to get them and I'll send it to you for
> > free.
>
> > Happy New Year to all Nixie Tube/Clock Lovers!
>
> > Best regards, Konstantin
>
> > > Hi Konstanin I would like 6 definitely, 12/18 if possible, I have
> > > purchased a few of your clock kits in the past (IN-18's)  although you
> > > would know me through a different email address. Would be greatly
> > > appreciated if you send me a price for what you can spare.
>
> > > Regards all and happy new year hope you all have (had) a safe and
> > > pleasant one
>
> > > Dave.
>
> > > On 31 Dec, 14:05, "kosbo.com"  wrote:
>
> > -

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[neonixie-l] Re: Where can I send customers for 12VDC wall-warts in UK in particular, EU in general.

[Lucky]

Indeed had you not pointed out it is a fake I would have not been
surprised. Like the old saying goes "you can't believe everything you
read/see" Guess that goes for my posts too. Bit like this
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/824477/6_volt_battery_hack_youll_be_amazed/
Yes you can get some very dodgy electrical items, I've had some
'kettle' leads last year the inner insulation was so thin/brittle kink
it twice and the fuse popped, wires shorted out internally. Teach me
to buy £1.50 (inc postage) leads, but I am finding out reputable
sellers (they stay longer) and I won't pay the exorbitant prices UK
dealers charge for the same product.

On 6 Jan, 21:47, Adam Jacobs  wrote:
> A classic one, though. The best hoax photographs are the sort where
> everyone deep down thinks that this sort of thing could really happen.
>
> :) -Adam W7QI
>
> On 1/6/2012 1:45 PM, Frank Bemelman wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Yes, what would you expect. Stuffing an honest  50V/6800uF inside
> > a 50V/6800uF can, would even be more insane.
>
> > Thinking about it, it could be worse, because the photo does not
> > tell us what is inside the 35V/2200uF ;-) Further investigation is
> > needed.
>
> > But I agree, this photo is probably a practical joke.
> > Frank
>
> > - Original Message - From: "Nick" > To: 
> > "neonixie-l" 
> > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 9:58 PM
> > Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Where can I send customers for 12VDC
> > wall-warts in UK in particular, EU in general.
>
> > On Jan 6, 7:35 pm, Adam Jacobs  wrote:
> >> Of course, there is always the classic "fake chinese capacitors" pic:
>
> >>http://www.discovercircuits.com/dc-mag/Issue_4/Photos/FakeCapacitor1.jpg
>
> > probably fake photo - not even right capacitance, let alone voltage.
>
> > Too simple to detect.
>
> > Nick

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[neonixie-l] Re: Where can I send customers for 12VDC wall-warts in UK in particular, EU in general.

[Lucky]

I think you will find it is all subsidised in china, how else are they
going to take over the world?
Seriously though you will be buying EXACTLY the same component (with
exceptions of course) look on any item you have it will generally say
'made in China'. I do a fair amount of buying/selling mostly via ebay
I have many a time purchased something from a UK shop/store and
dismantled it (love pulling things apart, started when I was little
haha) they have always been the same product that we can but direct at
90% less. Caveat to that is there is some very 'dodgy' products/
quality but they are still the same as we buy in the shops ,HDMI
cables being an example.
Another good example is mobile phones, you can iphone clones or any
other brand that usually are made in the same factory or using the
same parts.

The mark-up by the time it gets to the store is ridiculous, (iphone
being a good example) which is why China is becoming market leader not
just because they have cheap labour, and yes I'm constantly amazed
when I can buy something for 99p & free postage (50p once) take out
ebay's AND paypal's fees!


>
> On eBay, does anybody know how a seller in China can sell me an item
> for £1 and give free postage, and it is as good as something i buy
> from a store here for £9.99 ?
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Where can I send customers for 12VDC wall-warts in UK in particular, EU in general.

[Lucky]

Maplin in the UK. They have been increasing their presence over the
last few years.

But of course why not point them to dear old ebay? Every type you
could point a stick at, a lot of people already have an ebay account,
easy payments (paypal) and buyer protection (geez I sound like an
advert for them) Seriously though we all know ebay is soo easy, most/
all of the other places mentioned (ie. Rapidonline) require
registration so may as well sign up for ebay if not already and they,
Rapidonline etc, are quite expense when you add the additional
delivery charges/vat (£12+) and can be confusing for the uninitiated
("how many 'watts' do I need?" Most not tech people only think of
'Amps'), whereas I can just go to ebay type in 12v dc regulated up
pops £3.58 for eu and £4.86 for UK both 1amp could most probably find
cheaper with a wider search term. Simples!

On 5 Jan, 17:35, coggs  wrote:
> When I ship my nixie clocks internationally, I do not include a power
> adapter.
>
> In North America I get them from Jameco :  http://goo.gl/iqTvj12VDC .
> 2a 2.1mmx5mm center positive.
>
> Is there a retail store in the UK, the equivalent of Radio Shack that
> I can send them to get the proper adapter ?
>
> And who would be a good EU-based mail-order supplier for such things
>
> TIA
> ..cwww.cogwheelcircuitworks.com

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[neonixie-l] Re: IN-14 bases

[Lucky]

Wow an early christmas present, that would be great thanks
Konstantin.
I will send you an email with my address.

Cheers, Dave.

On 1 Jan, 13:27, "kosbo.com"  wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> I have only 6 spacers, they are white-ish, but slightly differerent in
> colour
> Let me know if you would like to get them and I'll send it to you for
> free.
>
> Happy New Year to all Nixie Tube/Clock Lovers!
>
> Best regards, Konstantin
>
>
>
> > Hi Konstanin I would like 6 definitely, 12/18 if possible, I have
> > purchased a few of your clock kits in the past (IN-18's)  although you
> > would know me through a different email address. Would be greatly
> > appreciated if you send me a price for what you can spare.
>
> > Regards all and happy new year hope you all have (had) a safe and
> > pleasant one
>
> > Dave.
>
> > On 31 Dec, 14:05, "kosbo.com"  wrote:
>
> -

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[neonixie-l] Re: IN-14 bases

[Lucky]

I thought of making some myself the drilling part should be easy
enough (Dremel/micro-bits/drill stand I have) it was the matter of
what stock to use, I could not find anything suitable and the issue
cleanly slicing through such stock.  And of course my laser cutter is
in the menders (I wish haha)

Hi Konstanin I would like 6 definitely, 12/18 if possible, I have
purchased a few of your clock kits in the past (IN-18's)  although you
would know me through a different email address. Would be greatly
appreciated if you send me a price for what you can spare.

Regards all and happy new year hope you all have (had) a safe and
pleasant one

Dave.

On 31 Dec, 14:05, "kosbo.com"  wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> How many IN-14 tube spacers do you need? I might have some  from
> faulty tubes.
>
> Best regards, Konstantinwww.kosbo.com
>
> On 28 Dec, 23:56, Lucky  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi all. Does anyone know where I can get some IN-14 bases from? I've
> > had a look around and cant see anyone (or completely missed them) I
> > have a handful that I need bases for also a set of 6 ZM1177's that I
> > think I can use the same bases on. I'm in the UK but don't mind
> > purchasing from virtually anywhere.
> > Thanks in advance, Dave.

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[neonixie-l] Re: IN-14 bases

[Lucky]

Thank you Chris. I actually have a couple of universal kits from Claus
and is one of the reasons I wanted some spacers!
I had checked on his site (Claus) but he does not list them. I will
fire off a mail to Mike in the new years, I do like his housings too,
thanks again.

Dave

On 31 Dec, 10:29, Turbokeu  wrote:
> On 31 Dec, 09:12, Nick  wrote:
>
> > On Dec 31, 6:55 am, Lucky  wrote:
>
> > > So does no-one know where to get these spacers?
>
> > They generally come with each tube - I've never seen them sold
> > separately.
>
> > Nick
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Contact Mike Mayberry fromhttp://www.klokmodern.com
> (m...@klokmodern.com).
> He sells specific CNC'ed aluminium housings (K7 & K8) for the Claus
> Urbach universal nixie clocks (http://www.clausurbach.de/shop/
> product_info.php?currency=USD&info=p28_nixie-clock-kit--
> universal-.html&shop=product_info.php).
> Every K8 housing kit comes with six spacers selectable from three
> colors (black, brown or white).
>
> I have two K8 housings (but four display boards with IN-8-2, Rodan
> GR112, Rodan CD66 (2x) tubes) and therefore needed more spacers (and
> also a display board with IN-16 tubes but they came already with their
> own spacers).
> I had no problem ordering the spacers separately from Mike.
>
> The three different colors of 
> spacers:http://www.turbokeu.com/myprojects/nixie/pict0035.jpg
>
> K8 with 6x Rodan CD66 & brown 
> spacers:http://www.turbokeu.com/myprojects/nixie/pict0022.jpg
>
> BTW, I have now six Claus Urbach clock kits in total from which a
> IN-18 clock with K7 
> housing:http://www.turbokeu.com/myprojects/nixie/pict0014.jpg
>
> K7 with 6x IN-18 & K8 with 6x 
> IN-8-2:http://www.turbokeu.com/myprojects/nixie/pict0015.jpg
>
> Regards,
> Chris

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[neonixie-l] Re: IN-14 bases

[Lucky]

So does no-one know where to get these spacers?

On 29 Dec, 01:35, Lucky  wrote:
> Sorry my bad, 'spacers' that act as a 'base' for them. I wrote bases
> yet have been searching using the term spacers, crazy the way the mind
> works sometimes eh.
>
> On 29 Dec, 01:30, Nicholas Stock  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I think Dave is taking about the plastic spacers that the tubes come with...
>
> > Nick
>
> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 5:28 PM, threeneurons wrote:
>
> > > Eh !?
>
> > > IN-14s are wire leaded. Did they actually make sockets for these ?
>
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[neonixie-l] Re: IN-14 bases

[Lucky]

Sorry my bad, 'spacers' that act as a 'base' for them. I wrote bases
yet have been searching using the term spacers, crazy the way the mind
works sometimes eh.

On 29 Dec, 01:30, Nicholas Stock  wrote:
> I think Dave is taking about the plastic spacers that the tubes come with...
>
> Nick
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 5:28 PM, threeneurons wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Eh !?
>
> > IN-14s are wire leaded. Did they actually make sockets for these ?
>
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[neonixie-l] IN-14 bases

[Lucky]

Hi all. Does anyone know where I can get some IN-14 bases from? I've
had a look around and cant see anyone (or completely missed them) I
have a handful that I need bases for also a set of 6 ZM1177's that I
think I can use the same bases on. I'm in the UK but don't mind
purchasing from virtually anywhere.
Thanks in advance, Dave.

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[neonixie-l] Re: Spinner Driven by 0A5 Gas Trigger

[Lucky]

Thank you David (See had it wrong all this time, you can tell I don't
play around with 'valves' all that much)

On 19 Dec, 19:01, David Forbes  wrote:
> On 12/19/11 11:21 AM, Lucky wrote:
>
> > Isn't it 'filament' for indirect
> > (as the heat is almost a by product) and 'heater' for direct as the
> > (any) 'heater' is designed to for the purpose (Directly heating the
> > cathode)? Cheers anyway, got me on track and I'm sure Grahame who's
> > thread I've stuck my oar into.
> > :-)
>
> For the bottle style thermionic valves (vacuum tubes for us Americans),
> it's heater for indirect and filament for direct. A filament is the
> cathode, whereas a heater is placed inside a cathode.
>
> --
> David Forbes, Tucson AZ

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[neonixie-l] Re: Spinner Driven by 0A5 Gas Trigger

[Lucky]

Ahh thank you for that. I like the idea of using a ct transformer, so
simple (after it's been pointed out). Isn't it 'filament' for indirect
(as the heat is almost a by product) and 'heater' for direct as the
(any) 'heater' is designed to for the purpose (Directly heating the
cathode)? Cheers anyway, got me on track and I'm sure Grahame who's
thread I've stuck my oar into.
:-)

On 19 Dec, 17:43, threeneurons  wrote:
> On Dec 19, 3:57 am, Lucky  wrote:> I would be 
> interested to follow what you do Grahame as I too would
> > like to convert one to 230v.
>
> (Is this not the one?http://threeneurons.wordpress.com/dekatron-
> stuff/)
>
>
>
> > On 19 Dec, 09:38, Grahame Marsh  wrote:
> > > BTW, Mike, could you post a link to your all valve/tube relaxtion driven
> > > dekatron - I had wished to modify it to 230V 50Hz but now I've lost your
> > > design. Ta.
>
> Here's the direct link of the one above:
>
> http://threeneurons.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/vr_tube_spinner.gif
>
> 230V might be tough. You can cheat, and tap midway between the
> capacitor divider in the filament leg. Two 3.9uf caps in series will
> do. Then pretend its just 120V source. Max possible 1/2cycle surge is
> 3.5A. Actual current pulse should be ~500uS. Tube filaments should
> handle it. Another method is to use a dual 115V primary 12V
> transformer. Hook the primaries in series. Tap the midpoint for
> 120VAC, and use the 12V secondary to power the filaments. This second
> one might be a better option in 230V-land. The heater-cathode specs
> are pretty tight. The 6AL5/12AL5 have greater range than the 12BF6. Of
> course, in my un-modified circuit, the filament and cathode of the
> 12BF6 is tied together, so its heater-cathode spec is a non-issue.
>
> BTW: I use the term heater and filament interchangeably here. That is
> NOT the convention. One is used for directly heated cathodes, and the
> other for indirectly heated cathodes, and my memory is too crappy, to
> remember which is which.

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[neonixie-l] Re: Spinner Driven by 0A5 Gas Trigger

[Lucky]

I would be interested to follow what you do Grahame as I too would
like to convert one to 230v.
(Is this not the one? http://threeneurons.wordpress.com/dekatron-stuff/)

On 19 Dec, 09:38, Grahame Marsh  wrote:
> On 18/12/2011 21:43, threeneurons wrote:
>
> > Circuit goes back to 1955. I wasn't even born yet.
>
> Yep, neither was I.  I am concerned that I'm abusing the trigger
> electrode by discharging a capacitor into it.
>
> BTW, Mike, could you post a link to your all valve/tube relaxtion driven
> dekatron - I had wished to modify it to 230V 50Hz but now I've lost your
> design. Ta.

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[neonixie-l] Re: have you ever seen/ IN18

[Lucky]

Hey they are obviously yours Michael, bit slow at putting 2 & 2
together (I'm going to blame the pain killers lol)
Even without nixies your bases/cases are the best looking most
professional build I have seen. I so much want to copy some of your
ideas they are so good. Be proud mate and thank you for even giving us
a look at them.
(Well if that doesn't sound like grovelling I don't know what does :-)
No I'm not after anything, 'credits due where credits due')

On 23 Nov, 20:20, MichaelB  wrote:
> Thanks!

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[neonixie-l] Re: have you ever seen/ IN18

[Lucky]

Bugger should have remembered seeing that, no doubt about it..memories
failing. VERY nice clocks this guy makes put any of my attempts to
shame, so much wish I had a workshop (and time, and money haha)
Mmm I have 2x6 IN-18 sets think I will give it ago after we get (the
'C' word) out of the way.
Thanks for the links

On 23 Nov, 01:41, MichaelB  wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVj8MCtPX0shttp://badnixie.com/Web_Files/IMG_2382.JPGhttp://badnixie.com/Web_Files/IMG_2377.JPGhttp://badnixie.com/Web_Files/IMG_2384.JPG
>
> On Nov 22, 12:31 pm, westdave  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > the Davester "wonders" if any one out there has ever seen a silvered or 
> > blacked out IN18 tube ,i have not even after hours ,days ,years of constant 
> > use they are all very much like the day they were first plugged in "big and 
> > clear"
> > other people must have run them for years over the rated hours ,any 
> > silvering?
> > i don't think they are like the B5092,that turn black,silver, mirrored
> > in order of BIG
> > Z568M 50mm ($400 each)use oversize socket ($$)  IN18 40mm($40  )use 
> > pcb&mill pins socket . ZM1040 30mm($80)same socket as b5092
> > so the IN18 has more bang per buck, but the gas mix is near violet when you 
> > pump them
> > hard,i think that an orange filter (dipped orange in french lacquer)would 
> > improve there color,any one try this?or orange plastic filter in front of 
> > them or orange color jell (used in stage lighting)made into a tube and 
> > slipped over the nixie.

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[neonixie-l] Re: have you ever seen/ IN18

[Lucky]

I have been very much considering dipping a set of nixies myself. Has
anyone got a set of pictures of them dipped and running, especially in
stages of dimming too?

On 23 Nov, 00:30, astroschmidt  wrote:
> Hi westdave,
>

> yes. I have all my originally clear nixies (including IN-18) dipped
> into orange french lacquer (or "bulb-dip lacquer" as would be literal
> translation from the german expression).
> Looks great, no more blue-violet hue, improves contrast and makes very
> much sense with an auto-dimming function :-)
>
> Kind regards
>
> Roger

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[neonixie-l] Re: 110VAC mains though voltage doubler

[Lucky]

Would have to correct you there, surely across phases of 110v (to
neutral) supply you would get 208 volts. Across phases of a 220/240v
supply will be 380/415v. Phases being 120 degrees apart.


On 20 Nov, 15:59, Charles MacDonald  wrote:
> On 11-11-20 10:46 AM, Brian P. Poi wrote:
>
> > Can someone elaborate on this last point a bit? I thought the neutral
> > line was at ground potential...
>
> On a household circuit, the neutral is generally cross connected to
> ground.  In an industrial setting, one can get 110 volts from connecting
> across phases, so in that case both wires could be above ground.
>
> One cannot also count (in the real world) on outlets being wired
> correctly, or Ground connections being maintained.
>
> (And yes, we have all gotten away with it, until taht Bight flash
> fallowed by the lights going out.)
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[neonixie-l] Re: B7971 eBay Auction

[Lucky]

Just wondered if any you have noticed this item 170728345252 4x
sockets with driver board(s?) Of any interest to anyone?

On 17 Nov, 15:54, B Otto  wrote:
> I figured they would go for 600 but yea... that seller did good! But
> yes, nixies of all sorts are on the rise.
>
> On the plus side I've been able to work out deals with some sellers on
> the bay! Not so much in the display tube area but neon lamps and OKT
> valves seem to be highly negotiable.
>
> -Otto
>
> On Nov 16, 10:39 pm, Nicholas Stock  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > 800 bucks for six tubes is overpriced IMHO...There's been quite a few 
> > B7971's on eBay lately. I still can't understand why IN-14's have gotten so 
> > expensive!
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Nick
>
> > Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 16, 2011, at 19:12, micha...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > > Who was the lucky winner of item 320791147606
>
> > > I wonder if it has something to do with MOD6 or Coggwheel.   Darn, I 
> > > wanted them.  :)
>
> > > Michail
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[neonixie-l] Re: WAY way off topic but they light up...

[Lucky]

Okay thought I had it until I saw this clip, start from about 6.20.
Similar setup except he has 4 coloured washers and 4 pegs (per light)
to hang them on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ShZQepZ0o
That's a new twist. (AFAIK)

On 14 Nov, 20:27, orange_glow_fan  wrote:
> Hi, Found this on youtube and can NOT figure out how it works.
> Included is TWO links to slightly differing versions..
>
> Help..
>
> http://wn.com/Light_Bulb_Trick
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGm5_uo5cHQ&feature=related
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kerry

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[neonixie-l] Re: Photographing VFDs...

[Lucky]

Something you may want to try is to turn off all lights/take in a
darkened room. This way you are zeroing in on the light emitted from
the tube rather than reflected light from external sources.

Here are some examples I just tried, although of a nixie clock I am
completing (I don't have any VFD's to hand & realise the colour issue)
you will get the idea. These were taken with my Olympus X-44, a cheap
and cheerful digital camera, left in full auto mode on a tripod about
28"/71cm.
2 were taken with a small light behind me (desk lamp) 2 without, the
only other light source was my monitor 7 1/2ft away. Exposure time 1/2
sec @ f/5.0 eq ISO 400
A quick check with photoshop shows they can be tweaked for even more
detail, maybe a case of 'KISS', I can play around with the rear light
to remove/increase background.
Worth a shot?

http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc438/siaynoqau/Nightime%20Nixie/Chronograph49s.jpg
http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc438/siaynoqau/Nightime%20Nixie/Chronograph33s.jpg
http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc438/siaynoqau/Nightime%20Nixie/Chronograph36s.jpg
http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc438/siaynoqau/Nightime%20Nixie/Chronograph38s.jpg

On 25 Oct, 18:24, Nick  wrote:
> I'm trying to get good, consistent, photographs of a VFD display
> (single tube) and have having trouble with getting the colours right &
> decent detail - this is when the tube is lit (all segments).
>
> Anyone done this with good success and care to share settings/
> technique etc.?
>
> Nick

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixies and cars

[Lucky]

Well would have to agree we've had it good for the last few months but
yes I've also seen the 'horizontal 'rain when I worked down at
Dungeness nuclear power station (the nuclear had nothing to do with
it) Certainly bleak out on them marshes though.
We must be close(ish) I live in Dover ATM.

Back to the car..a lowered VW is even less smooth,,I feel end view
tubes maybe slightly more robust than their upright brethren,
certainly easier for a multi tiered display.
Much thought is going to be put into dampening with the consideration
of the many pointers here.
Dave

On 15 Oct, 04:58, Nick  wrote:
> Oh come on! The weather here is not so bad - I've just come back from
> a few days in Co. Mayo (West Eire) - I never knew that rain a) could
> form a solid wall, b) that it could fall horizontally at 60mph, and c)
> that it never stops... In the SE of England we've had great weather
> for ages...
>
> Cars have interesting electrical environments - pretty hostile. A VW
> is not the most subtle of vehicles or the smoothest of rides, and many
> UK roads are not as good as people might like. A good SMPS will sort
> you out fine - I've used mine in cars and they seem very reliable,
> though you need to keep SMPS noise of the main car electrics unless
> you want your radio etc, to be very unhappy...
>
> The failure modes of nixies in these environments are likely to be
> largely in the cathode/anode supports failing or inter-cathode/cathode-
> anode shorts - the tubes were not designed for this sort of abuse. Use
> wire-ended nixies supported on soft grommets or pinned nixies with
> anti-vibration mounts on the tube bases. I suspect that this approach
> might help a bit, but not a huge amount...
>
> Having said that, you'll probably be fine.
>
> On Oct 15, 4:29 am, Lucky  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I live over the water in the sunny UK...okay not so sunny! Dang I had
> > a look a the book on the link you provided David, problem is is led to
> > other books on the subject I fancied too :) looks an interesting read,
> > will look out for it along with some of the others I don't want to get
> > lots of repetition though.
>
> > I think a small nixie clock with fading digits would suit the '55,
> > nice chrome adjustment knobs etc especially if it's standard/
> > unmodified inc the radio. 4-6 tubes in an arc to match the speedo
> > binnacle maybe?
>
> > Talking of which I'm going to need to make sure I, or anybody has a
> > very smoothed out power supply, a car's '12V' is all over the place.
> > My particular application is going into a heavily modified 72 VW
> > Beetle I am building for somebody with a distinct Gothic theme which
> > lends itself to steampunk very nicely. I want the whole
> > instrumentation to be nixie/neon based with Bakelite type switches
> > etc. (Think 'Back to the Future' steampunk style!) We're also
> > considering custom made valve amps on show under the bonnet, cotton
> > covered wires, brass terminals... Hopefully win a few shows with it.
>
> > On 15 Oct, 03:40, J Forbes  wrote:
>
> > > David does live near the U of A.
>
> > > I was thinking just a short time ago about how we need to get some
> > > dang nixies into my 55 chevy. It sure would liven it up.
>
> > > One of these days David is going to make the nixie clock/ipod amp
> > > thingy for old cars, but I guess I have to do the mechanical design
> > > first.
>
> > > Jim

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixies and cars

[Lucky]

I live over the water in the sunny UK...okay not so sunny! Dang I had
a look a the book on the link you provided David, problem is is led to
other books on the subject I fancied too :) looks an interesting read,
will look out for it along with some of the others I don't want to get
lots of repetition though.

I think a small nixie clock with fading digits would suit the '55,
nice chrome adjustment knobs etc especially if it's standard/
unmodified inc the radio. 4-6 tubes in an arc to match the speedo
binnacle maybe?

Talking of which I'm going to need to make sure I, or anybody has a
very smoothed out power supply, a car's '12V' is all over the place.
My particular application is going into a heavily modified 72 VW
Beetle I am building for somebody with a distinct Gothic theme which
lends itself to steampunk very nicely. I want the whole
instrumentation to be nixie/neon based with Bakelite type switches
etc. (Think 'Back to the Future' steampunk style!) We're also
considering custom made valve amps on show under the bonnet, cotton
covered wires, brass terminals... Hopefully win a few shows with it.

On 15 Oct, 03:40, J Forbes  wrote:
> David does live near the U of A.
>
> I was thinking just a short time ago about how we need to get some
> dang nixies into my 55 chevy. It sure would liven it up.
>
> One of these days David is going to make the nixie clock/ipod amp
> thingy for old cars, but I guess I have to do the mechanical design
> first.
>
> Jim

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixies and cars

[Lucky]

"Vibrated into oblivion" There's a surprise haha. Yes was thinking
down the cable grommet route, around the base and tops of the tube(s)
rather than the nipples and/or mounting using silicon 'sealant'.
Circuit boards using anti-vibration mountings too. That should reduce
the higher frequency vibrations, although I am concerned about the
lower and harder end i.e Pot holes/bumps etc. ('Harder' frequencies??
Now that's bad grammar!)

My thinking is end view tubes are more robust but really want to use
some end view types as well. I'm also wanting to use some IN-9's which
seem to have surfaced a lot lately at reasonable prices.




> One fellow in England put some on his motorcycle and they vibrated
> themselves into oblivion, but a car is much more cushy than a bike.
>
> Best to mount them with soft rubber shock mount. If they have nipples,
> use a grommet over the nipple, placed into a support bracket.
>
> --
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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixies and cars

[Lucky]

Mmm cheers Nick, might fire off a mail to Mike see if he had any
reliability issues. I am incidentally going to be using them for far
more than a clock, think whole dash.

On 15 Oct, 00:49, Nicholas Stock  wrote:
> Mike Harrison made one for his car so should be no problem?
>
> http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/mikesclocks.html#smallnc
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Lucky  wrote:
> > Hi all, My name is Dave I'm a semi retired (due to disability)
> > electric passenger train builder/electrician. My hobbies are varied
> > ranging from custom car design/build to electronic gadget maker.
> > Enough about me.
>
> > Has anyone here any knowledge/experience/hints/tips on using nixies
> > (and neons) in a road car environment? Apart from solving the issues
> > of signals to convert, both digital and analogue, I am concerned about
> > physical shock/vibration damage. Just how robust are nixies? Are one
> > type much more robust etc?
>
> > Any information that sheds some light on this would be very much
> > appreciated, thanks in advance, Dave.
>
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[neonixie-l] Nixies and cars

[Lucky]

Hi all, My name is Dave I'm a semi retired (due to disability)
electric passenger train builder/electrician. My hobbies are varied
ranging from custom car design/build to electronic gadget maker.
Enough about me.

Has anyone here any knowledge/experience/hints/tips on using nixies
(and neons) in a road car environment? Apart from solving the issues
of signals to convert, both digital and analogue, I am concerned about
physical shock/vibration damage. Just how robust are nixies? Are one
type much more robust etc?

Any information that sheds some light on this would be very much
appreciated, thanks in advance, Dave.

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[neonixie-l] Re: sharing list for parts/stuff in SE England

[Lucky]

Also in Kent, specifically (after sign up) says London post-codes
only, Mmm shame

On 17 July, 21:40, thatbrock  wrote:
> Those of you in London/SE England might be interested in reHack London - a
> forum for sharing and re-using stuff that's cluttering up your workbench -
> and for finding stuff that might help you finish that languishing 
> project:http://rehack.org
>
> --
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>
> *
>
> *

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[neonixie-l] Re: Counterfeit Nixie Clocks on eBay

[Lucky]

Noop still there listing number 200615277384 some reason the end of my
link got truncated (? Most prob my fault)

On 8 June, 04:01, Stuckey  wrote:
> And it looks like the infringing auction has been removed!

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[neonixie-l] Re: Counterfeit Nixie Clocks on eBay

[Lucky]

Couldn't agree with you more David, mind you this guy is taking the
mick, he even uses the original ebay listed photo's with the
originators name blurred out!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DIY-QS30-1-Remote-function-Nixie-clock-kit-/200615277384?pt=UK_Consumer_VintageAudio_RL&hash=item2eb59a3348

Must know someone close at the pcb manufacturer to obtain the board,
see he does a 'naim clone' too, well it is Hong Kong...


On 7 June, 18:11, David Forbes  wrote:
> On 6/7/11 9:54 AM, Lucky wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately you can only report items that are a: a direct
> > infringement of you intellectual property rights but first you must be
> > a member of the VeRO Programme, and be the owner of the said rights
> > (with proof) or b: report an item that you believe a 'Potential
> > trademark infringement', the other categories address counterfeit
> > goods etc all of which ebay tends to ignore unless they receive a
> > certain threshold of reports (ie: a waste of time) but again we are
> > talking about a physical objects that need to be protected by patents/
> > copyright which I hope the builders of the clock get before they see
> > these guys benefiting anymore from their hard work!
>
> > Dave, the voice of reason. ;-)
>
> I've never bothered with such things as patents and trademarks, because
> they are more trouble than they're worth. The protection they provide is
> a protection racket. You need to have a million dollars on hand to pay
> your lawyers for enforcement through the courts, and you're not likely
> to get satisfaction no matter what the judge decides.
>
> For a cottage industry, there's no point in doing anything about the
> counterfeiters. Consider it flattery and move on to designing your next
> project.
>
> --
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[neonixie-l] Re: Counterfeit Nixie Clocks on eBay

[Lucky]

Unfortunately you can only report items that are a: a direct
infringement of you intellectual property rights but first you must be
a member of the VeRO Programme, and be the owner of the said rights
(with proof) or b: report an item that you believe a 'Potential
trademark infringement', the other categories address counterfeit
goods etc all of which ebay tends to ignore unless they receive a
certain threshold of reports (ie: a waste of time) but again we are
talking about a physical objects that need to be protected by patents/
copyright which I hope the builders of the clock get before they see
these guys benefiting anymore from their hard work!


Dave, the voice of reason. ;-)
On 7 June, 15:38, Nicholas Stock  wrote:
> You can report items that you believe to be counterfeit on eBay using the
> 'report item' link. The more people that do this, the better I think.
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:28 AM, coggs  wrote:
> > Thanks, @Brian for setting up the Wall of Shame.
>
> > BTW, it *is* possible violate open source licenses; Most frequently,
> > people create "Closed Derivatives"; Not republishing their version as
> > open source.
>
> > But the only practical recourse is the same; Get the word out.
>
> > On Jun 6, 11:52 pm, Stuckey  wrote:
> > > Hello -
> > > Two people on my forum (Mr. Grau / nixiekits.eu and Yanzeyuan /
> >http://blog.sina.com.cn/nixieclock) have run in to problems with
> > > sellers on eBay ripping off their designs and reproducing them.  Their
> > > designs were not released under any open source / creative commons
> > > license.
>
> > > The thread is here:
> >http://www.tubeclockdb.com/forum/Builders-Forum/1819-Chinese-Nixie-tu...
>
> > > And my current bad guy list is here:
> >http://www.tubeclockdb.com/forum/Buy-Sell-Trade/2099-COUNTERFEIT-WARN...
>
> > > If you see any more counterfeit products, please reply to this post,
> > > to one on my site, or send me an email.  I would like to keep a
> > > running list of people to avoid doing business with.
>
> > > Regards,
> > > Brian / tubeclockdb.com
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[neonixie-l] Re: IV-21 tiny VFD Clock

[Lucky]

Missed the top view clock, must have been asleep that day. Strange
they do not sell as well, suppose people are not having the foresight
of building a case. Then again you can place 'as is' on a desk, plug
it in and it works eh. I must admit I have one of your IN-18 clocks
that sits on a shelf  as is, no case, and gets lots of good comments.

On 2 Apr, 12:42, "kosbo.com"  wrote:
> Thanks for your good words and comments about new IV-21 clock.
> I have a plan to make another release with tubes digits facing up, as
> I did for my IV-18 clock:
> Ebay item number 250651429581:
>  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250651429581&ssP...
>
> The only problem is that unlike sideveiw IV18 clock, for some reasons
> this kit does not sell well ;-(   
>
> Best regards, Konstantinwww.kosbo.com
>
> On 2 Apr, 12:02, Lucky  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Another coll clock from the 'House of Kosbo' well done mate.>
> > The only thing I would like to see (and which has put me off buying
> > any of these style clocks) in the tube mounted horizontally, ie
> > twisted 90o so the digits face 'up' and the power socket facing the
> > 'new' rear so as it could be mounted in an enclosure with a curving
> > front section

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[neonixie-l] Re: IV-21 tiny VFD Clock

[Lucky]

*coll..try 'cool'.

On 2 Apr, 12:02, Lucky  wrote:
> Another coll clock from the 'House of Kosbo' well done mate.>
> The only thing I would like to see (and which has put me off buying
> any of these style clocks) in the tube mounted horizontally, ie
> twisted 90o so the digits face 'up' and the power socket facing the
> 'new' rear so as it could be mounted in an enclosure with a curving
> front section. At the moment the board (at the bottom) protrudes past
> the face of the clock tube. Just an idea.still good work,
> congrats
>
> On 2 Apr, 01:53, "kosbo.com"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi All,
>
> > I have now tiny IV-21 VFD clock in stock. It's very similar to IV-18
> > VFD clock, but almost 2 times smaller...
> > If you like IV-18 clock, so you mght me interested in this clock 
> > too:http://www.kosbo.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=116...
>
> > All the best, Konstantinwww.kosbo.com

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[neonixie-l] Re: IV-21 tiny VFD Clock

[Lucky]

Another coll clock from the 'House of Kosbo' well done mate.>
The only thing I would like to see (and which has put me off buying
any of these style clocks) in the tube mounted horizontally, ie
twisted 90o so the digits face 'up' and the power socket facing the
'new' rear so as it could be mounted in an enclosure with a curving
front section. At the moment the board (at the bottom) protrudes past
the face of the clock tube. Just an idea.still good work,
congrats

On 2 Apr, 01:53, "kosbo.com"  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have now tiny IV-21 VFD clock in stock. It's very similar to IV-18
> VFD clock, but almost 2 times smaller...
> If you like IV-18 clock, so you mght me interested in this clock 
> too:http://www.kosbo.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=116...
>
> All the best, Konstantinwww.kosbo.com

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[neonixie-l] Re: Favorite obfuscated DST rules..

[Lucky]

Hey Will et al
You may find this pertinent: "...One might wonder why the Babylonians
chose the number 360. The
reason is that their number system was based on the number 60. To
compare, we base our number system on 10. For us, 10 is a nice, round
number and we find it very convenient to count in multiples of 10,
like millimeter, centimeter, meter, kilometer, etc. But the
Babylonians liked 60.

Why this was nice for them, nobody knows, but 60 is a nice number
too,
because 60 = 2 x 2 x 3 x 5 and 360 = 2 x 2 x 2 x 3 x 3 x 5. What's so
neat about that, you ask?  Well, you will find that 360 is divisible
by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 18, and 20. There are few other
numbers as small as 360 that have so many different factors. This
makes the degree a very nice unit to divide the circle into an equal
number of parts. 120 degrees is 1/3 of a circle, 90 degrees is 1/4,
and so on"
(http://mathforum.org)

360 is certainly not an arbitrary figure conjured for the fun of it
but extremely well thought out, there are also (approximately) 360
days in a year (time it takes the Earth to circle the sun, I'm sure
that did not go unnoticed by our ancestors, the stars which circle the
celestial pole every day, seem to advance in that circle by
approximately one-360th of a circle, i.e., one degree, each day. I
seem to remember trigonometry and 'chords' also being relevant,
(Ptolemy?) using traditional sexagesimal unit subdivision one degree
is divided into 60 minutes (of arc), and one minute into 60 seconds
(of arc)

So if a circle is going to be divided into 360 'parts' it must have
made sense to divide a clock (They used to be round till we started on
'em) into the same i.e 60 mins\60 secs. 360 also has 24 divisors inc
every number from one to ten except 7
I'm know there is more to it than that, worth a Google, but certainly
the divisors we use are not arbitrary.

Dave.


On 13 Mar, 23:40, will  wrote:
> That argument is circular (no pun intended)... one system makes sense
> because it depends on another system, and that system makes sense
> because it depends on the first system, etc.
> The clocks could have easily been made to tell time in units of 1000
> (ie 1/1000th of a day), and have, say, 10 hours instead of 12. It's
> like metric vs SI-what's simpler, 1000, 100, 10, 1, etc., or 60, 60,
> 24, 7, 12 (or more like 24, 365.24).
>
> There are only 360 degrees in a circumference because we felt like
> saying there were, but there's no reason not to use the obvious unit
> of "turns", "milliturns", "microturns".
>
> On Mar 13, 6:27 pm, Charles MacDonald  wrote:
>
> > On 11-03-13 01:37 PM, will wrote:
>
> > > It's still pretty ridiculous.
>
> > > I'm of the opinion that we should do a complete overhaul of our units
> > > and measurement system, including time. Seconds, minutes, and hours
> > > are now totally arbitrary and have zero practical meaning.
>
> > I am sure that the way time is measured had a direct relation to how
> > ship navigation was accomplished, as the first really accurate clocks
> > were made for this purpose.
>
> > There are 360 degrees in a circumference.  And I hate to think what a
> > clock would look like if it had started in Radians.
>
> > --
> > Charles MacDonald                 Stittsville Ontario
> > cm...@zeusprune.ca              Just Beyond the 
> > Fringehttp://www.TelecomOttawa.net/~cmacd/
> > No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail.

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[neonixie-l] Re: 6 Digit Direct-Drive B7971 clock kit

[Lucky]

It's got my interest for sure

On 25 Feb, 19:21, MichaelB  wrote:
> To all,
>
> As some of you may know, Carl Ott of this forum has done a wonderful 6
> digit direct-drive clock design for the B7971. I have been working
> with Carl and another forum member and have had a batch of PCB’s made
> per his gerber files. This has resulted in my building an open-top
>
>
> Note the aluminum fab’d bracket mounting the rotary encoder. This will
> be replaced with a right angle rotary that will mount directly to the
> PCB. Carl plans to do a little more tweaking to the software as well.
> Also there is a fair amount of SMD component soldering involved by the
> user and the kit will be offered without tubes.
>
> Here is a list of the feature set as it stands now.
>
> ==Unique Rotary Encoder User interface
>
> ==Auto Display dimming feature via photo sensor
>
> ==Adjustable DIM and Brightness levels with Adjustable Dimming
> threshold
>
> ==QuickTime Set feature- quickly and easily set current time without
> entering config. mode
>
> ==9 Selectable FONTS
>
> ==Clock spells out the Month and Day of the week, also displays date
> and year
>
> ==Four user selectable colon modes- OFF, ON, BLINK, ALT, or RAILRD
> (railroad)
>
> == TCXO time based
>
> ==Time On/Time Off sleep setting
>
> ==Smooth Digit Cross Fade feature with fade rate adjust.
>
> ==12/24 hour display mode selection
>
> ==Leading Zero Suppression selection
>
> ==Adjustable Pulse width Modulation setting value.
>
> ==Light Value Test Feature to determine optimal dimming point
>
> ==CW/CCW Rotary encoder direction selection
>
> Your feedback is appreciated!

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