Re: [neonixie-l] PCBWay
I am still running with Elecrow. Elecrow's 10 boards are fractionally cheaper at $4.90, not $5.00. Elecrow do any profile milling and sub boards within the cost, PCBway want to charge per sub board. PCBway load on the shipping, which for me in UK is $12.00. A total of $17.00. My last Elecrow order for the 10 boards was $4.90 + $4.80 shipping, a total of $9.70. Elecrow send me a picture of what they are sending me when it ships. I've had one issue with a board, out of several dozen, and they remanufactured immediately without any argument. They had misunderstood a plated-through tag slot pad and joined it to a ground plane. Elecrow do not put any of their own annoying identification codes on the PCBs and if they manufacture any extra PCBs these will be included free also. My last order yielded 13 rather than the 10 I paid for. John S On 1 Dec 2017, at 17:29, Terry S wrote: > PCBway has a sale on boards -- 10 boards for $5 + shipping. Not sure what > size that goes to, and you do need to use their default parameters. But if > you can live with them this is a great deal. The default parameters are > pretty much OK and what you might expect. 2 layer, 6 & 6, 1.6 thick, .3mm > drill, green mask, white silk, 1 oz copper, HASL. > > I plugged in 100 x 100 mm and for 5 boards the price came to $5. Not $5 each, > but $5 total. > > > Terry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/4683C620-189C-4FB6-89EA-E170E9A4282C%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: My favorite Nixie tube
On 29 Mar 2017, at 16:50, gregebert wrote: > My favorite: Burroughs 5092. Small (0.6" numbers), but very reliable. I've > never had one fail on me, and I've never encountered a defective one via Ebay. I have had a few of these used, which showed quite severe cathode poisoning, but I was able to recondition them with cycling the digits at higher current until they shine like new again. Regards, John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E5752407-C3D2-41AF-BEE7-80A413FD1973%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Mounting IN-18 tubes
Just to remind people that the diagram on Dieter's website http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/data/in18.htm for the IN-18 pinout is wrong. I would not know how many people have fallen foul of this, but I did. The tube needs rotating about 4.15º degrees clockwise. The IN-18 sockets Dieter sells would also seem to replicate this error. See diagram attached: John S On 7 Feb 2017, at 03:48, Paul Andrews wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions about how to mount IN-18 tubes? It looks > like they are intended to be socketed and I see some sockets/pins on ebay. I > would like to underlight them too, if that makes a difference. > > By the way, does anyone have CAD files for the physical pin layout? e.g DXF > files, and/or KiCAD footprints? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/465F721F-E662-4A93-82E7-9B93CCD8B2FB%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Posting personal information on this group.
As a moderator of this group, I can only endorse what Nick de Smith has said. This is a friendly group and long shall it remain so. Best wishes to you all, John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CC4FD8D5-A45A-4BCD-AD90-633693844754%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] The Bombe Clock
On 10 Nov 2016, at 08:37, Paul Parry wrote: > Many thanks for your kind words! > > I recon some Enigma rotors would go very well, or ( If I have spelt it > correct ) one of those Strowger relays that they had at telephone exchanges > before they went digital, certainly go ka-chunk and move about quite a lot > too.. If only I had a couple! You could also consider decagon reels from electromechanical pinballs. These have the benefit of having an open at zero switch, for resetting to a known position, and a closed at nine switch for pulsing the next reel along. The plastic number reel can be replaced with something of your own devising. You could even use the reel to switch nixie tubes on and off. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2B804023-F5E2-42ED-A914-E06F7BCB493D%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: RTC chips that behave nicely with crystals
On 2 Nov 2016, at 06:29, Nick wrote: > The DS323x series are simple great chips - they may be a few $ more, but it's > not all about cost - lower component count, greater accuracy (actually, > phenomenal accuracy). > > What's not to like? > > Nick A few more $$$s? You can buy a - DS3231 module with additional memory chip for as little as $0.42 inc. free shipping. See https://goo.gl/OHVP8G. That is 35 UK pence. How do they do it? I do not know. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/926DB793-A690-4E28-8A7F-CFC0C55E65DC%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Free Gerber Files - Nixie Clock
Talking of Gerber viewers, if you are on Mac OSX, from Yosemite onwards, then download the free community edition of Cuprum https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cuprum-community-edition/id1053217412?mt=12 and it will add a Quicklook plugin for Gerber files, so they preview as images right there in the finder, no need to even run the program after that. Really useful. For online Gerber viewing from any platform, I find http://circuitpeople.com/ very useful. You can download images of the layers back to your computer at various resolutions. John S On 21 Oct 2016, at 18:12, 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l wrote: > Here is a free gerber file viewer, from Pentalogix: > > Viewmate -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/BAD8BE5E-9EF1-4A3F-9BA6-5D52C19A496E%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Jeff Thomas Nixie Clock
I built one of these as my first clock and it was horrendous. It's almost impossible to set the time with a magnet without overshooting. I found it was better to split the hours and minutes, because otherwise if you overshoot the minutes setting it clocks the hours on. I also found the CMOS very sensitive to stray noise and would often find the time had changed spontaneously. John S On 6 Oct 2016, at 02:30, David Forbes wrote: > Greg. > > See the bottom of the Harris clock page > > http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/nixclock.html#ready > > to see the seconds display and time-setting option described. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/5A626DA8-1A6E-4694-9487-8BF7B9794FC9%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] IN-17 break easily?
I had an IN-17 break on me and I was surprised at how little force broke it. John S On 23 Sep 2016, at 16:12, Trumpeter wrote: > > > I have a lot of my other tubes stored loose in plastic bags (20-30 in a large > ziplock for instance) then placed inside a box with a label that indicted the > tube type. This incident with the in-17 makes me rethink this practice. The > glass on the in17 is surprisingly thin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/A6006013-F782-4D27-8629-330E9664B9BC%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Maybe a stupid question...
Excellent work Karl. Very interesting and its always good to get the desired result in the end. I am following your progress with great interest. John S On 22 Aug 2016, at 06:11, karl welty wrote: > With the parts order having arrived I was able to hook up the circuit > per my idea. It works exactly as I hoped it would. Thousands > (seemingly) of variations based on the settings of the pots. It > outputs a changing voltage right in the range of the intended VCO I > plan to have downstream. Initial testing mostly complete I can now > build up the VCO card and determine the best way to interface them. It > was a long week, this was a nice way to round out the weekend. > > https://youtu.be/GGKjt8f74bw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CE59AD13-1F4C-45C2-804F-0B7FBF19DF67%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Neons as tone generators
Hi Karl and welcome to the group. It's refreshing to see a neon project that is auditory rather than visual. I've been watching your progress with neon oscillators over on Muffwiggler for some time. This group has a wide range of members ranging from the highly-artistic to technically-expert. Some are clever enough to be both, but alas, not I. I am sure members here will be able to add their wisdom, should the need arise. Best wishes, John S On 28 Jul 2016, at 22:52, karl welty wrote: > Hiya, I'm Karl. New to the group and fascinated by the options neons and > trigger tube present to the electronic musician. As an introduction... Using > the newer XC18 module for bass synth with filter. The desk top modules > supplemented by patches from the rack mount stuff. All tones generated using > neon based oscillators except kick and snare. Bass line was manually swept in > sync with cv/gate and drums coming from a laptop. Each overdub was an > improvisation with a new patch. This seems a good sampler of many of the > sounds (though by no means limited to just these) which can be derived using > these neon based tone generators, both musical and/or discordant as the mood > strikes. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-lwgw5S9BE > > Looking forward to chatting about the many options ! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/b75a27f6-7694-4fea-81f1-52e56561f181%40googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E8C9F5B6-5293-4ACD-A967-B6EBD90418F9%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Take a look at this....
On 21 Jul 2016, at 16:43, Nicholas Stock wrote: > https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lasermad/time-flies-levitating-nixie-clock I've seen one or two of my nixie clocks levitate, but only when my wife has decided to clean my work table and has moved an unhoused example. It's usually followed by some robust Anglo-Saxon. A small price to pay and it does not cost £35,000. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/0A6CD197-BF53-477E-906D-7F827D5175C7%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] OT: MegaProcessor...
I was looking at this recently. The man needs to get out more… John On 5 Jul 2016, at 21:16, Nick wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z71h9XZbAWY > > LOTS and LOTS of LEDs! > > Nick > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/a86220ff-d53f-4da5-aebb-7bd769d409b9%40googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/B241DB9D-525F-4073-9B66-F6FCA727BE54%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Newbie
On 14 Jun 2016, at 20:50, Mike Allen wrote: > Do you guys know about this blue dot problem? Yes but I think it is relatively rare. I never had it. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/95C95D5B-2C2C-4D1E-8A95-2182432ED4BF%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Boost converter inductor sizing question
On 19 May 2016, at 21:15, Nick wrote: > I wasn't getting at you at all John :) The MAX1771 is a subtle beast and > quick to anger - if you recall I had a look at your setup and couldn't see > what was causing it to misbehave... it took me about 6 goes (and discussions > with Maxim) before my attempts got to the final stage. Well at least I got that one to work after I got home again. Not sure how, I just unsoldered and moved a few components around and it started to regulate. I didn't think you were getting at me Nick. I think to use that Max 1771 it needs a properly laid out PCB, not my el-cheapo home-etch creations. Now I have done 4 boards at elecrow.com and they are so cheap to do I would go down that route in future. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/D108EE75-DFDA-4D8D-BD07-9FEB4124BA63%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Boost converter inductor sizing question
On 18 May 2016, at 15:49, Nick wrote: > The design on that page has been built many 100s of time with no problems - > where people have had issues is where they've chosen to ignore the very > specific guidelines on component choice and layout :) > > Nick That'll be me ignoring your guidelines then Nick. I can't get that picky circuit to play nicely as you know and it demands the manufacturing of proper PCBs and the relatively expensive components you specify, so I simply won't bother with it any more. I appreciate the time and effort you put into your research and the intellectual elegance of it all, I just got frustrated with it, me being a numpty and all. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/37998F03-F81D-4F3B-82BF-BA2E27AA01D0%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] Dr. Timmy's Caffeinated Nixie tubes
I understand that Dr. Timmy's Caffeinated Nixie tubes come in Cherry, Lemon/Lime, Fruit Punch, Watermelon, and Blue Raspberry. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/AC5131F2-364D-4179-A431-C2AD1637A158%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] PIxie tube 3D socket
On 14 Apr 2016, at 20:14, Jonathan Peakall wrote: > HI All, > > In a couple of weeks, I'm going to be helping my nephew to assemble a 3D > printer. One of the first projects I would like to use it for is to make some > B9012 Pixie tube sockets. > > I've never used a 3D printer, so it is all new to me. The data sheet I have > has a good mechanical drawing for a starting point. Does anyone know of an > off the shelf product I could use for the pin sockets? I am currently using > some pin sockets scrounged from common old sockets, I think from a 9 pin. > > And any other advice would be much appreciated. If I can make something that > works, I should be able to help out any other list members that might need > some. > > Jonathan 1] Get some pin sockets, scrounged as you describe above 2] Get cylinder from old adhesive tape tube 3] Put pin sockets on tube pins, to suit tube available 4] Centre/center tube and pins within cylinder (depending on whether you follow proper English or Noah Webster's artificial dialect of the aforementioned language) 4] Melt polymorph in cup of hot water and squidge it into the cylinder, around the pins - squidge is a technical term (ignore it for now, you don't need to know) 5] Pop the socket out of the cylinder when the polymorph has solidified 6] Buy much alcohol with the money you have saved from not buying a 3D printer, pour and enjoy the time you saved not making a 3D model Job done, John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E45A51E1-9DFD-4DDB-8F82-2083765348D2%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] My Page - What do you think?
On 22 Mar 2016, at 20:55, Nick wrote: > Very nice. Small point -shouldn't R17 be connected to +12V ? > > Nick In my case it doesn't seem to make any damned difference - I can never get those Max1771s to play nicely. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/873FD71A-6EF4-4DC2-971F-F3AB69F1903A%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] Captions please
Captions please. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/40C06E8B-EA3B-49AD-967C-143FD54EE319%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] VFD pen
Does the fact the site states 'Kickstarter Edition' imply there will be a different one? Mysteriously another batch of tubes will be found? I failed to locate it on kickstarter. John S On 16 Mar 2016, at 15:10, Petro Vodopyan wrote: > Hello, > Wanted to share an interesting finding - IV-21 VFD pen: http://gelfman.ch/en/ > Probably it was already posted here... > > > Petro -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3107A64E-B01A-4A20-A733-6322E8F45546%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Small neon bulbs 50 for $5
On 13 Feb 2016, at 16:51, John Rehwinkel wrote: > Electronic Goldmine has a sale on small (10mm long, 3.8mm diameter) neon > bulbs, fifty for US$5 until the 15th: > > http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G20996A > > - John Well they won't ship to the UK. Who might be able to negotiate on my behalf? Paypal funds available. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/F91869C2-0F0D-4EEB-AB2C-91008384E037%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Eniac neons
The 20 accumulators that could store a ten digit signed number I suppose is ram. When my father worked on an Eniac in the 1960s he used punched cards for storage. I guess it was just an overblown calculator. I attach a memo of computer usage from 1954, John S On 11 Feb 2016, at 22:38, David Forbes wrote: > Amusingly, the ENIAC was not a stored-program machine, so it doesn't really > belong at the trunk, but was one of the roots under the ground. EDVAC was the > first American stored-program machine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2EBCED64-4FBF-4921-B50C-25DEC3438A8A%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] 3D printable models for Nixie sockets, especially IN-1
This one? https://github.com/hansj66/Nixie-socket-LC516--IN-1 John S On 11 Feb 2016, at 01:40, 'Dave' via neonixie-l wrote: > Does anyone have stl files or design files for any of the Nixie tube sockets? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/015840BC-EDD9-4F9D-97F5-E2C8EB73A9E3%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] Counterfection
Prosperity will eat itself. I just bought a JYE tech mini dig-it scope to build into something. I know it's a pile of poo, but at about $13 USD inc. shipping, I really don't mind. I just wanted something that will view audio waveforms - the added noise is not an issue. But JYE tech are bleating that their own China-produced rock bottom priced items have been cloned and the software stolen. OK, I think I have a gen-U-whine one, but lots of people are getting the Sexton Blakes (fakes). I bought a stick of 'new' CA3080s a while ago. They are obviously pulls - I can see the the legs have once had solder on them. I believe the process of repainting and reprinting ICs is commonly known as 'black-topping'. They put a layer of black matt something over the top and then overprint the logo and the datestamp. I bought a bunch of those little DS2321 boards with memory. So far they have all been okey dokey, but I expect I shall fall foul of the naughty people one day. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/BAABF6F9-58FF-4FAF-87F4-98DF46B16C3F%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Just one more Little Bad Dog Designs Clock
On 21 Jan 2016, at 18:23, Tomislav Kordaso wrote: > Bad Dog Designs is funny to read as written in Cyrillic. It would also be funny in Glagolitic. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/15F1CE6C-6C72-4AD1-8C16-82DD785A18DA%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Krka and Tesla
On 20 Jan 2016, at 20:52, Tom Harris wrote: > I did a Google search on krcka tesla and it corrected it to "cracked Tesla". > Some people's opinion on his state of mind! You just spelled Krka wrongly - drop the c. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/7B066C2C-72A9-481A-8F15-A710BDA77630%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Just one more Little Bad Dog Designs Clock
On 19 Jan 2016, at 21:35, Marcin Adamski wrote: > Maybe it is in Serbian? Tesla was Croatian. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E4F623EF-D34D-48EE-8D41-E3A652F50A13%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Just one more Little Bad Dog Designs Clock
On 19 Jan 2016, at 23:22, Instrument Resources of America wrote: > Wikipedia states that he was indeed born in Smiljan, Austrian Empire, which > is today modern Croatia, but then states that his ethnicity was Serb. Just > how does that work out to be that way? Seems odd or off some how to me. Ira. Tesla's parents were Serbian. His country of birth was Croatia. Both countries claim him as their own. I visited the remains of Tesla's hydroelectric plant at Krka National Park, Skradinski Buk, Croatia. Breathtakingly beautiful waterfalls. This was the world's first operating hydroelectric plant. Although Niagara Falls was commissioned two days earlier than Krka, Krka was supplying electricity to the town of Sibenik the same evening, whereas Niagara supplied electricity to Buffalo 14 months later. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/66E8B758-A983-45B5-BE51-89FC79D6917D%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie equipment adverts...
On 9 Jan 2016, at 15:59, Nick wrote: > Just got to admire those nixies... I'll rise to the bait. Are the nipples on the top or the bottom on those tubes? Finbarr Saunders and his double entendres -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/A2E46370-0057-436A-B93B-1A24EBE252DF%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Raspberry pi interfacing with older gear
On 30 Dec 2015, at 21:54, Andy Tefft wrote: > Anyone been using a Raspberry pi in any nixie projects? Did anyone manage to get one of the Pi Zeros that were free on the cover of Magpi magazine? I tried, but they'd all sold out instantly where I live. Crazy cheap to buy anyway at £4 or $5 http://swag.raspberrypi.org/collections/pi-zero/products/pi-zero John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/45F6CDF4-165F-456F-918B-994A93E5CA8F%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Dot matrix display
I heard of a guy who is sort doing the reverse - he is taking the four levels of neon dot intensity found on DMD displays and mapping these to different colours on an RGB LED matrix, to get automatic pseudo-colouring. I bet he knows how the drivers work inside out. As the original displays get older and fail, more people are turning to the colour LED displays, where someone has laboriously mapped every animation frame in colours. Not cheap, just shy of $400 for one of these. John S On 31 Dec 2015, at 08:00, Tristan wrote: > I started development of a clock using some similar displays (except 256x64 > pixels). > > https://sites.google.com/site/tristansideas/electronics/pinball-display-clock > > Sadly a lack of time has prevented me from finishing the project so far. They > can pretty much be driven from the SPI peripheral of most micros. I used an > MSP430 for testing. This allowed each row of display data to be shifted in > using one of the DMA channels with minimal interrupt/CPU usage just to latch > each row keep track of the number of rows. I was able to achieve 4 levels of > grey pretty easily. The chip on the dev board I used didn't have RAM to hold > the entire frame buffer so I was using an external SPI SRAM (also DMA > driven). This was not intended to be the long term design and I would use a > part with enough RAM on board. > > I've been thinking of driving them from a BeagleBone Black. Simply because > the PRU's available would be capable of doing the real time processing > required. Trammel Hudson used this method to drive a Mac-SE display and only > minimal changes would be required to run a DMD. > > https://trmm.net/Mac-SE_video > > That's not to discourage the use of an FPGA. Even without one I was able to > exceed the 200Hz maximum using the MSP430 (they still seem to work at > > 200Hz). These displays do use a fair amount of power. They can get warm. They > also have a tendency to produce a high pitched whine when operating. They did > run in pinball machines in arcades pretty much non-stop but they do wear out > eventually. There are LED based replacements available now but that lacks a > certain something that you can only get from neon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CDA6504C-6EFF-48BD-8458-44C09A6507DF%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Newbie Buyer: Advise needed on this IN-14 nixie clock design and seller
On 27 Dec 2015, at 05:04, Golferron 54 wrote: > I have probably gone past the fine line of excessive, to obsessive going > through 41 pins in the last 10 years. Oh please, this is lightweight obsessive. I can find you a number of UK collectors who have in excess of 100 pinball machines at any one time. Me? I only have three right now. The driver boards for Bally and Williams 6 or 7 digit neon displays are multiplexed. I think with discrete nixies you might have to up the boiler pressure a little to get them adequately lit. I make and sell some simple clocks from pinball displays: http://www.clock-it.net/pinball-display-clock-version-1/ http://www.clock-it.net/pinball-display-clock-version-2/ I have an old Bally Vector backbox and I am considering what to with it. What should I display in the score areas and credit/ball in play windows, apart from the time? Happy holidays everyone, John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/7F79EA2B-336A-47CC-B025-3E4AB8B61B4F%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Newbie Buyer: Advise needed on this IN-14 nixie clock design and seller
On 27 Dec 2015, at 20:55, golferron wrote: > John S. > > You got an awesome line up of clocks. Very creative. I saw you did a clock > design using a BK2000 display ... I love BK2000 and with a subwolfer it > sounds as awesome as it looks with the Doug Watson artwork. > > But I digress from my original question ... can you make a clock out of a > Williams DMD display? I swapped out of my Monster Bash the original Vishay > DMD and replaced it with a ColorDMD. You are a bit far from San Francisco, > but love your thoughts if making a clock display using a DMD is a doable > clock project. I have a doorway with about 18" of clearance between the top > of the door and ceiling that I need a long thin clock, and flashed after > seeing your designs that maybe my DMD just sitting in a box is useful > afterall! > > Happy holidays and thanks for sharing your work! It's a long story, but four years ago I made a rash claim that I could make an existing magic trick in a much better way. I said I would do it in a transparent box and I would also make it work when you took the batteries out. So I did this and Sean Mills of UK's Pinball Palace company has pestered me for the rights to the trick ever since. Way off-topic by now, but maybe it will get back to neon, who knows? Anyway, after making the prototype magic trick four years ago, Sean came up this year with the bright idea that if he gave me a dot matrix display pinball machine would I swap my magic trick for it? Well of course I would. So I made up half a dozen magic tricks and Sean gave me a Bally WhoDunnit in return, along with a lifetime guarantee on the parts and labo(u)r. Just as well, because he's been back four times so far to fix it, the last time a week before Xmas. A three hour round trip every time. But we feed him well and he goes home content enough. The WhoDunnit seems to have been a big hit with our guests this Christmas, which included two Russian mathematics professors of various sexes. My prototype version BK2K, the Black Knight 2000, was taken away by Sean and sold for me. This took the angst out of me having to re-house it somehow. So I got spondoolicks and a new pinball machine. It so happens that Sean Mills is the sole UK distributor for the Colo(u)r DMD replacements. They are selling very well I hear. For the general neonixie audience here, what has happened is that the neon dot matrix displays, now often failing, can be replaced with colour LED displays that have new ROMs, custom-designed to display the old monochrome images, but remapped in a range of LED colo(u)rs. I have seen these in action and they are very impressive, although not cheap. So getting back on-topic, it may well be that I can collaborate with Sean, who has all the Bally/Williams test rigs for the neon DMD displays, to make something that will drive them. The problem is that I don't have a spare DMD display and have not yet delved into the nether regions of such devices. Anyone who has a working display tends to pass it on to someone who needs one, here in the UK. I shall ask Sean Mills and see what he says about driving them. If he has a spare then he will let me borrow it, I am sure. I think Nicko, our dear leader, bought one a while back, maybe he has some ideas? Best wishes for a wonderful 2016 everyone, John S PS: I really must get a subwolfer - the alsatian living across the road needs some competition… -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/86EB2951-1039-4F83-AFA1-1B76FE8C176C%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Small little Display PCB?
Sure Paul I can do that for you, no problem. You have my email. John S On 7 Dec 2015, at 16:26, Paul Parry wrote: > Hi, > > Would there be someone here who has the necessary symbol libraries and pcb > software to lay out a small Nixie PCB for me? > I'm making a couple of thermometers, and need 3 x IN-8 and 1 x IN-19A in a 4 > X 1 multiplex, with a individual Neon as a decimal point. > I shall fit the IN-8 pins in those little gold sockets, and have the IN-19 > soldered in place. > > I can get the PCB made once I have the Gerber files etc. > > Alternately does anyone have a suitable PCB I can purchase from them? > > Best wishes, > Paul > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3a4f6899-c29e-40b5-8a75-30543a22480e%40googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/03D3303C-769C-419B-982F-3061936F8951%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Useful tool on eBay...
On 4 Sep 2015, at 11:54, Paolo Cravero wrote: > Or, for a more DIY solution, referring to > http://www.decadecounter.com/vta/articleview.php?item=109 , would a modified > pocket plasma ball work as a tester? I found a small USB plasma ball for as > low as 8 USD incl. shipping (banggood, SKU024808). > > How to dispose properly of the plasma ball itself once removed? > > Apologies for two mails in a row on the same subject. > Paolo I have a very small plasma ball and it is not very good at testing nixies. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CB2B1A1B-305A-468E-BEE8-E05EE207243E%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Useful tool on eBay...
On 3 Sep 2015, at 14:12, 'Grahame Marsh' via neonixie-l wrote: > > Nick, > > Interesting, how many volts does it put out? A bit like a one lead taser > perhaps? I wonder what the cats would think of it! > > G I'll poke mine at a cat next time one is around. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/5818DCE4-06D4-451B-AA7C-2C9122E1721D%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Useful tool on eBay...
On 3 Sep 2015, at 14:03, Nick wrote: > Not my auction - I already have one of these - quite useful when you are and > about or in the lab and want to quickly check tubes for gas (when they should > have some, e.g. nixies) and gas when they shouldn't (like radio valves). > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351471098985 > > Nick That is the model I have Nick. I paid about a tenner for mine. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/7D731B00-0811-464E-A627-68750D1C8119%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Neon sign for sale
On 24 Aug 2015, at 19:31, NeonJohn wrote: On 08/24/2015 11:48 AM, Quixotic Nixotic wrote: The owner of this burger joint took it to pieces in 1997. The sign is now for sale for US $18,000. Sale includes the green roof tiles and white porcelain panels. The person selling claims $7,000 has already been spent on restoring the neon. It seems expensive to me. Do people really pay these prices? NO! They don't. I'm forwarding this to Len Davidson, probably the world's expert on antique neon signs. My guess is that he'll be lucky to get $2-3000 out of it if NONE of the neon units are broken. Someone MIGHT pay a few hundred dollars for the flat signs IFF they're porcelain. If they're painted, maybe a hundred or so. The green tiles will end up being scrap metal. John I think the signs are all metal. The porcelain items are the green roof tiles and the large white tiles on the side of the building, which I don't suppose anybody has any real use for. Would it have cost 7,000 bucks to have that neon tubing replaced? Or did they go to the wrong person? John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6840226E-D7F7-4304-A140-109DBE678FDC%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] Dreamland Amusement Park
In the way that art mirrors real life (or is it the other way round?) I have also been following the shenanigans of the revived Dreamland Amusement Park in Margate, UK, with a modicum of bored interest. As with so many of England's seaside resorts, when hard times hit and repair bills run high and the lure of property developers' money smells sweet, Dreamland (home to the UK's historical last wooden roller coaster and a protected structure) fell prey to a mysterious fire in 2008. It was officially found to be deliberate arson, so I think I am OK saying this publicly. I could say more, but it's probably wise not to. With the aid of a huge cash injection from the UK's national lottery, Dreamland is being resurrected once again. The lottery money was extracted partly upon its promise to celebrate the UK's traditional seaside amusement establishment heritage. No small part of this enticement was the inclusion of an extensive collection of pinball machines, arcade machines and a few jukes owned by my long-standing acquaintances Peter Heath and Philip Crow. Their machines were to form a working arcade for the public to actively enjoy. Peter and Phil were overjoyed and sourcing even more rare and wonderful machines from the US to add to the collection, solely for the benefit of the Margate visitors So imagine their surprise and delight when they were told their vintage arcade was no longer needed or part of any current plans, once the lottery money was conveniently in place of course. I suspect a word has been spoken in the National Lottery's collective ear, as I now hear that Peter and Phil have been mysteriously re-invited to install their arcade in the entrance area after all. Hoorah! John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/417FD485-6A0E-4229-A658-89E71FCA317E%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Clock on Tonight's Storage Wars
On 12 Aug 2015, at 07:27, Dekatron42 wrote: There is a clip of that part here: http://www.aetv.com/storage-wars/video/daves-nixie-tube-clock /Martin I have a friend who runs UK auctions of coin-operated amusement machines, circus and fairground memorabilia http://www.elephanthouseauctions.com/ He is regularly contacted by a model of TV show where people 'discover' rare machines in barns and attics. They make the stories up and have invariably bought these things somewhere for their story appeal at far greater sums than they are worth. My friend is often asked to lie about the value for the sake of the camera and storyline. He won't do it. As moderator of the British Jukebox Owners forum I have many times been asked by TV production companies for any members who have something rare and unusual with story appeal. Sometimes they already bought some junk and want to find someone to make it work. This style of TV show is so cheap and easy for them to make and they think you will be so star struck you'll do it free of charge, including delivery and collection from their premises at times and on dates to their specification. I was once asked to help a fake scenario where they had bought a junk jukebox. They suggested to me that perhaps someone's Dad is dying of cancer and would love to have this forgotten old jukebox he's had sitting in his garage restored by members of the family, so he can enjoy his last dying days. They will document the process, leading to tears in poor old Dad's eyes when he finally hears that Doris Day record again. Aaagh! Usually, when told the timeframe for sourcing missing parts from around the world and the cost of re-chroming alone, they lose interest. They want it quick, cheap and emotional. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/31232AA0-FE8C-4FB0-B6A2-C803658AA7BA%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] Musical application of neon
Mike Harrison and his link to the GE Glow lamp manual at http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/oldbooks.html has been mentioned in a thread about the musical application of neon at Muffwiggler, in the music synthesiser DIY section. Some of you might be interested, or have something to contribute. https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70250 John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/BB0EEA49-94F0-42F3-B2E1-0320D52D1E8C%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] 7 digit nixie preliminary design
On 21 Apr 2015, at 20:08, John Rehwinkel wrote: That's using an op-amp as a comparator. This is generally not a good idea. Use a comparator instead. In what way is using an op-amp comparator not using a comparator? John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/0E24FAD3-1357-4687-BBED-F1FE158531C0%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: FLW Clocks
On 16 Apr 2015, at 20:48, robin bussell wrote: Can you tell me more about Walking the tree of word association sounds interesting ... does each word have stored with it the most likely next words according to a literature analysis or something? No, I think it was that old game where you could change one letter in a word at a time, look through the list, see if a suitable word was in your vocab. If not, then whizz through the loop another time and choose another combo. Which is OK I guess, but to me not all that clever and not much better than random, except perhaps elegant in that fewer segments ever change. With Chris Barron's Smartsockets they provide the means where by such boring, yet subtle, changes don't ever happen, through the rather clever transition styles that are provided. I like the randomness of my clock in profanity mode, especially if anyone of an ecclesiastic, other religious or mystic bent comes around to bore me senseless, erm, I mean entertain me. I do like to see people choke on words. A random scatter of photons that can elicit such reactions is revealing of entrenched viewpoints in an individual. The problem will be entirely theirs. Don't worship graven images is a phrase to which should be added: don't take offence to the written word. Just in case someone doesn't realise a word is also a graven, or in our case electronically illuminated, image. We are all slaves to our own preconceptions, myself included. Am I being impolite? Well if you were in an Arab country and someone offered you the sheep's eyeball, it would be you who was impolite to refuse the delicacy. It all depends on social context. Should art provoke as well as entertain and be completely sycophantic? If there is no profit or political motive, then art can do what it damn well pleases in my book and you can damn well ignore it as you see fit. I am invited and entreated these days to embrace every minority group and religion under the sun as being valid in some way, merely because it implies its existence and asserts itself. Therefore, I also reserve the right to challenge assumptions in any way I see fit, without the need to apologise. If an arrangement of letters should result in a sequence that shocks, so be it. If it delights then no apology is ever necessary. If it offends, then ooh dear, we better all watch out for the thought police. Freedom of speech is the most important right in the world. People aren't stupid, let them make up their own minds on the basis of who or what (the word clock) said, in what context it was said and in the milieu or to whom it was addressed. A sense of humus is necessary for every keen gardener, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/BD56BD4B-22BF-44B2-B2AF-E31547109563%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Neon in the Saatchi gallery
On 9 Apr 2015, at 18:04, Nick wrote: These are Seletti letters - they are pretty much the only company doing this - lots of places sell them - nice though. Cheaper elsewhere too. Thanks for the heads up. Tempting... John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/07CAB3B5-F6F7-44DF-B22C-82C8BE41696A%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Caught like Mars flies in a Klein bottle
On 24 Mar 2015, at 23:36, Nick wrote: On Tuesday, 24 March 2015 21:36:21 UTC, Nixcited delighted wrote: Yes, it's another Firesign Theater quote. But I am trying to work out if this multiple Klein bottle could be filled with gas or not and if so, which parts would glow? Answers on the back of a banknote of your choice please. I can't wait for Nick de Smith to make me one, now he has the skillset Yeah. Whatever! Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I found it tough just to make the letters of the alphabet... (actually, letters are not easy) Thanks for that John - is it real or a photoshop? It is a real object. I did have a Klein bottle blown for me once years ago, but it developed a hairline crack and fractured, so I was rather hoping you'd oblige Nick... I may try and do a computer Klein soon... I did do a recent 3d computer glass exercise, to see how convincing I might be able to make it. Lighting is the key. I used no 'lights' in the scene at all, simply soft-edged intrinsically-glowing panels such as photographers use. Electroluminescent-style I suppose. I did a study against white: …and one against black. Modelled, lit, textured and raytraced in Strata Design 3D CX 7. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/4339E2FF-A3CA-4ED0-9922-E0D64ABF9B8B%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] Caught like Mars flies in a Klein bottle
Yes, it's another Firesign Theater quote. But I am trying to work out if this multiple Klein bottle could be filled with gas or not and if so, which parts would glow? Answers on the back of a banknote of your choice please. I can't wait for Nick de Smith to make me one, now he has the skillset. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/236E20F0-5D84-476E-A5CF-996457B848AA%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Housing for nixies
On 10 Mar 2015, at 12:29, Petro Vodopyan wrote: Beautiful piece of art. http://pikabu.ru/view/podoshli_k_kontsu_dva_goda_ruchnoy_rabotyi_nad_chasami_na_gazorazryadnyikh_indikatorakh_in14_rezultat_otsenivayte_sami_3153651 It's like something out of Myst. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/D70E0FC7-39E3-495D-B4CB-181EEAF45990%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] The answer is a lemon
Looking through the Television Journal of November 1934, I came across this advertisement. 'May be used in place of any existing Neon Lamp without alteration' caught my eye. I guess that is in the context of a 1934 telly. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/09CEC854-C5D0-4EE9-BB3F-86BB11E5F6C2%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] The answer is a lemon
On 8 Mar 2015, at 11:27, Tidak Ada wrote: Never heard about the neon lamps used in early mechanical television? The neon lamp (Neontron®) was used as a light source behind the Nipkow disc. No, never. Is it this thing, or is this mercury vapour? John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/7725993D-C53D-458E-85AC-25A2666F0F39%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] The answer is a lemon
Looks so easy, John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2BA52535-41A0-4E0A-83D6-0E386550571F%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: New Telly
On 6 Mar 2015, at 16:33, Michail1 via neonixie-l wrote: Now how are you going to convince the seller that you didn't drop it? I am surprised at how many laptop screens I replace for people and it's always the same It was like that when I opened the box (a month or two after purchasing). heh. Michail Fortunately it was courier-delivered by Ebuyer and I opened it the same day. There was a corresponding puncture mark in the outer cardboard carton and styrene packaging. Ebuyer did not argue. They sent a new one and collected the old one. Ebuyer were very good about it. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/82DC3537-6929-4B98-A48D-2FC036907BE7%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] Clock-It back online
A while back I took Clock-It.net offline, as I wanted to make the site responsive for mobile devices and also convert it to Nerdpress so that people might comment. It rather fell by the wayside as other projects took hold, not least of which was going into the very depths of hell and back. A word in my shell-like from Nick de Smith a few days ago suggested I should do something about Clock-It. Which I did. So please look at http://www.clock-it.net . Nothing much that is ultra new I am afraid, but there are rather a lot of projects half-finished in boxes here, so hopefully I can finish some of those soon and add them. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1E4CCC69-D0B3-40C4-800E-D43806EE6817%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Looking for group banner home page photos...
On 4 Mar 2015, at 17:37, lai...@wcoil.com wrote: I laughed so hard I bumped my neon the table. Fortunately I wasn't hurt, I had thick pants on as summer days argon. These puns were a noble gas but most people would want to barium. The real joke is that I got those photos from Ebay years ago. I did some photoshop work to Gucci them up a bit. A company had made the tubes of all the noble gases for a museum exhibit showing the entire periodic table of the elements. There was a set of tubes left over and they were schlocked out on Ebay. As I recall the entire set went for something really ridiculous like £110 GBP. I'd assumed they would be well out of my league and I was kicking myself for not bidding. I wonder who got 'em and what they did with them? It wasn't one of you fellahs, was it? I'll go and build a shrubbery... John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/4BA7A6E3-33C3-4C5B-AE1B-7222E10C51A0%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Looking for group banner home page photos...
Shall we get onto Spoonerisms now or shall we solder on regardless? US people won't get that as they call solder sarder. Do they call a soldier a sardiar over there? John S When I said 'US people' I should have said 'Merkins', as in 'Ma fellow Merkins'. If you need to look up merkin, just don't, OK? Hair today, gone tomorrow, John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/361DD831-7771-4847-8231-5814D3E7DDF6%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Looking for group banner home page photos...
To which the K'niggits replied; 'Ar!' John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2F46A5E8-EBB6-4DDE-8CAB-E3D199A54D19%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Looking for group banner home page photos...
On 3 Mar 2015, at 11:51, Nick de Smith wrote: Thanks John, I knew I could rely on you! This group is a real gas. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2865AE46-CEDF-4EF9-8E13-A250CC8E6AEF%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Xmas present...
On 26 Dec 2014, at 19:51, Nick wrote: Indeed. A pair of ESL-63s once owned by the recently deceased Sir Clive Sinclair... Accounts of Sir Clive's demise might be greatly exaggerated. Stephen had a Christmas card from him and Clive says he's looking forward to them both meeting up in the New Year. The Quad hifi gear dates from When Sir Clive moved into his flat in London's Trafalgar Square and didn't have the space or inclination to take it with him, so he gave it to Stephen. Must have been soon after he married Angie, the former Miss England lapdancer he met in Stringfellows. There is a new crowd-funded Sinclair Spectrum in the pipeline. Relive Jet Set Willy, Chuckie Egg and those other icons of a mis-spent youth. My fave was Alien8. Target price £100 and 1,000 retro games will come already preloaded. The same form factor as the original, with the 'dead flesh' keyboard. The first 1,000 will be made in the UK and any profits will go to the Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/7FBF1D9A-24FC-48F5-B676-AE237DA936EC%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Neon Xmas present...
Really lovely Nick. Impressive dovetailing. I am sure Minnie loves it and you in equal measure. I am not sure she is quite so keen about the Quad electrostatics I dumped in your kitchen. Is there any room left in your kitchen for food or cooking? I'd suggest with all those volts you don't put the neon M on top of the fish tank and anyway that is where the cat sits. Thanks for all your work behind the scenes in recent years, keeping this group under control, John S On 26 Dec 2014, at 14:05, Nick wrote: Small present I made for SWMBO using reclaimed items - a neon letter from the front of a theatre (about 6 tall), some offcuts of an oak floor we had laid 9 years ago, bits and pieces from the workshop... some specialised neon bits - the silicone covers for the electrodes and the special latex blocking paint to conceal the electrodes themselves, all bolts are hex-headed to prevent curious children opening it (2000V inside) - cable clamp was stolen from an old light fitting. Oak was thicknessed down from 20mm to to 14mm and the joints cut, backing timber was 4mm thick so 4.8mm x 5mm deep groove set round inside of box (176mm x 210mm internal), Forstner bits used to cut 20mm holes for tube electrodes, lots of use of router table, table saw, planer-thicknesser etc. Mounting/back panel for the neon was very rare timber sourced from [url=http://www.exotichardwoods.co.uk/]Timberline in Tonbridge[/url] - lovely bit of wood - they sell 100s of rare (legal) wood for turning, musical instrument manufacture repair etc. Amazing place. Absolutely amazing... Finished on Xmas Eve... still to do: small uP to PWM-modulate the HV to dim the tube a bit - bearing in mind it was originally an outdoor display sign designed to be read from 50ft away, its a tad bright for the kitchen, so I wil change the standard electronic transformer I'm currently (!) using for a PWM version when it arrives from the USA - a small uP, or even just a PWM 555-based design, will control brightness nicely. Luckily, SWMBO likes neon and absolutely loved the sign... many thanks (as always) to John Smout who gave me the idea for a letter in a box... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e9073b49-6886-4529-a62c-61211f2e2384%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. 2014-12-26 13.34.25.jpg2014-12-24 15.40.36.jpg2014-12-23 18.12.16.jpg2014-12-18 13.22.26.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/8B63B882-938E-45DF-B9E6-84378856FE9D%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Digest for neonixie-l@googlegroups.com - 2 updates in 1 topic
On 7 Dec 2014, at 17:04, 'westdave' via neonixie-l wrote: i thought they should be called a PLEXY Acryluminescent? John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/0A1982E7-4100-4B3B-822E-5A48016C87C7%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Nice quiet month...
On 28 Nov 2014, at 22:28, David Forbes wrote: I've been working on non-nixie stuff... a bit of RF signal processing kit for this: http://kicphubs.uchicago.edu/depot/images/sptaerial-large_ver_1.jpg It's at the South Pole. I'm not going, but the gizmo is shipping out this Monday AM. --David Forbes David, I think you need some stabilisers on that latrine - it's listing a bit. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9A144121-7C9D-46C1-8E18-C15F317665DA%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Nice quiet month...
On 28 Nov 2014, at 18:00, Ron Walsh wrote: As a matter of fact I am working on a clock for my wife. :) Is it a fair exchange Ron? Who is offering deals like that? I am getting a pinball machine with a good shiny gas plasma dot matrix display very soon. Nick de Smith, you will have to come over and give it a spanking when I get it. It's called Who Dunnit and has a gumshoe murder mystery theme, complete with Peter Gunn soundtrack. Who Dunnit flopped in the arcades because the storyline and gameplay is too complicated. Solve the clues and find the murderer. As a result only 2,416 were ever made and it's now rare. It has become a bit of an unsung hero cult machine for home users and sits up there with the best of them as a good collector's machine. Not everyone's cup of tea and most people never had the chance to play one, but I like it and the price is excellent. As a result I have a pinball to sell, to make space. It's a Black Knight 2000, again very collectable, great sound and graphics. This example is excellent. Cabinet almost like new. If anyone in the UK is interested in this please contact me off list. Shameless plug. Neon alphanumeric displays in very good condition, no burn. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/10547ED5-2E09-4F96-8E0B-90F2F259E28C%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Nice quiet month...
On 28 Nov 2014, at 21:30, Nick wrote: That's a really nice panaplex - what model is it? Nick I thought you were not going to buy any more stuff Nick? John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6C142E6C-C97F-4480-B95B-BF4F184501D1%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Most expensive Nixie Watch?
I also provide a photo of one other watch that he bought then but has been wearing a lot. Now you have his DNA, are you going to clone him? John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/F4196F3F-54DD-4E73-9944-7A527E52F592%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone using the Supertex HV5523?
On 15 Oct 2014, at 13:24, Nick wrote: People may or may not know that Supertex were recently bought by Microchip (April 2014)... Nick Good. Free samples all round then :) John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/F7F3DF0D-715B-43EB-AFF5-F00955B8D228%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] LM9022 on ebay
On 11 Oct 2014, at 19:01, Grahame Marsh wrote: Hi The LM9022 IC which is a fairly niffty VFD driver has turned up on ebay item 171472657676 No affiliation. Grahame I never understood why I was still ordering and getting free samples, long after everyone on this group was saying they were unobtanium. Oh well. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/D6519618-01BA-4A27-8078-F700F542D1E3%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: POV Disk Kickstarter Project
On 19 Sep 2014, at 17:06, 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l wrote: The Bob Blick one is a classic ! That one goes way back. I've seen propeller clocks go back, maybe decades. Fry's Electronics, here in California, use to sell them. The one that fits on your bike wheel is the best currently made one, in my opinion. You can even get little ones that plug in your USB port for $5, at flea markets ! Of course I'm partial to this one: This is one of the things that ticks me off. You have this great research tool called the internet, but you don't bother to do your own homework. How lazy can you be !? This applies both to those trying to get Kickstarter funding, and the suckers that are giving money to non-novel ideas ... Jiminy Cricket ! I am glad that others agree with me. I always seem to be the one to say negative things about projects. I saw a critique of a POV globe project a few years ago which suggested a huge globe, 4-6 feet maybe, for a museum. It was pointed out that the speed it would have to spin at and the centrifugal force would probably rip the LEDs straight off the PCBs. I forget the exact argument. Put this on a kickstarter project and people would pay money though. It's educational, after all. I think what really got me riled about crowdfunding was the Solar Roadways project. The annoying OZ man sums it up well at: http://youtu.be/obS6TUVSZds Ximenez el cucaracha indeed. La cucaracha, la cucaracha, Ya no puede caminar. Porque le falta, porque no tiene, Marijuana pa' fumar. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/73CC45A8-B86C-42BA-BA7D-4AA73E56D809%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] POV Disk Kickstarter Project
On 18 Sep 2014, at 19:09, Dman777 wrote: Hi, I thought I would let every know about this cool kickstarter project(not by me)is a POV Disk. Looks cool...hope it get's its funding met: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1680424292/pov-disk Not cool, it makes my blood boil. Does this kind of unoriginal derivative work really need kickstarter funding? I liked the way the Indian girl Sonia called it Pee 'o' wee. That sums it up for me perfectly. £8,000? I'm out. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/47053903-C639-4B70-9D4A-E775CDBECFD5%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Interesting neon sign...
On 27 Aug 2014, at 14:32, Nick wrote: Nick Re: [neonixie-l] Interesting neon sign... Fine piece of work. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/02B0FB0D-B2DC-4C17-8BDE-8561AB7EBCFB%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie Tube Font
On 24 Aug 2014, at 23:48, NeonJohn wrote: I think this is what you're looking for http://www.neon-john.com/Neon/Nixie_Fonts/Nixotic_index.htm John Enjoy. By the way I still reserve copyright on these fonts, but always free for your own use. John Smout -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/24276792-8002-43C0-B221-6E9FBD1210D3%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] Accutrace inc aka pcb4u.com
Has anybody used this outfit for PCBs? Accutrace inc, trading as pcb4u.com. http://www.pcb4u.com/a1ad77.asp I am asking, because they are doing a US $30 + $10 FedEx shipping deal (is this US only?) on ten double side boards up to 20 square inches, 129 square centimetres. This seems a very attractive price. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/F6869D74-460A-4A43-929C-C4DE931A4A59%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Accutrace inc aka pcb4u.com
On 10 Aug 2014, at 13:37, Arne Rossius wrote: Hi, Quixotic Nixotic wrote: Has anybody used this outfit for PCBs? Accutrace inc, trading as pcb4u.com. [...] I am asking, because they are doing a US $30 + $10 FedEx shipping deal (is this US only?) on ten double side boards up to 20 square inches, 129 square centimetres. This seems a very attractive price. I haven't used them, but if you don't mind ordering from China and waiting a while for your boards, you can get them even cheaper. There are a few suppliers with similar prices, I have used ITEAD http://imall.iteadstudio.com/open-pcb/pcb-prototyping.html several times. For ten double-sided 10cm x 10cm boards (about 4 x 4) with green silkscreen, they ask 20 USD + shipping. I have found that shipping is very cheap (less than 10 USD for 10 boards) if you choose Hongkong Post, but takes 2-3 weeks (to Germany) in addition to about one week for manufacturing, and you get (very basic) tracking. As far as I know, shipping times to the US are similar. Iteadstudio and Seeedstudio use the same fab house and I have used them both in the past and been very happy. The good deals they and others do are based on the 5cm x 5cm and 10cm x 10cm sizes - other sizes are much more expensive. Mitch Davis who runs Hackvana and is based in Shenzhen cannot quote me better deals than they do and says many houses match those 5x5 and 10x10 deals. Both those houses will be more expensive than pcb4u if I go over the 10cm x 10cm restriction. I am working on a set of Doepfer format Eurorack sound modules and I cannot get six 16mm pots in a row on a 0.1 pitch in 10cms, I need 10.8cms, so the flexible sizing of pcb4u is appealing. Yes I know I can buy smaller pots, but then the pot cost goes up and the physical finger space around the knobs gets smaller. I've asked about pcb4u shipping to UK and await their reply. Reading a review by someone, it says when you check out your order there is an offer of another ten boards at half price. Even more attractive if you need more than ten. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/35EF79DD-B257-43B5-8BDF-7BC51B6CBC8E%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Jeff Thomas is no more
On 10 Jul 2014, at 04:43, MichaelB wrote: This is a truly sad day. Jeff Thomas has passed away. May I ask how old he was and what dependants he has left? A sad affair indeed. I condole all those who need condoling, John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/51C7BADF-CA1A-450E-8B20-ED1FE1E2057D%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Side Viewing Nixie Tubes -- Which are considered the best aesthetically?
On 21 Jun 2014, at 06:43, Dman777 wrote: Since I am still new at this, I was wondering what the community opinion on which is the biggest and prettiest side viewing nixie tubes. The only one I am really familiar with is the Nixie 12. I vote for GR10J http://youtu.be/fVFsrleA3pw John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/72706174-6032-4959-A390-85B1252BEADE%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Side Viewing Nixie Tubes -- Which are considered the best aesthetically?
On 21 Jun 2014, at 17:45, Dman777 wrote: Hi, Thanks for the replies but I think I might of gotten my terminology wrong. I mean the non-top tubeslike the Nixie 12. What is a Nixie 12? John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/95162098-4BE7-4D48-91B8-6E1E4DF70318%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Crazy nixie hater
On 19 Jun 2014, at 15:36, Petro Vodopyan wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8fCdExID8QNR this is awful :( Not quite as dramatic perhaps as when UK band The KLF deliberately burned GBP £1,000,000 in an artistic statement on 23rd August 1994. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/ECE6C4B8-8A7D-43D3-888D-E368129DD991%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Think I should Sue ?
On 12 Apr 2014, at 20:01, threeneurons wrote: I know. Its just that it popped out, when I went to eBay, yesterday. They want over $400, for a pair of relatively small speakers, that can't possibly have sound to match that price ! As a designer of more years than I care to admit, I see archetypal shapes that appear and reappear over the years and slicing a cylinder at oblique angles is one of these ideas and the example of Threeneurons' is excellent work. The tube on a stand is something else entirely. Apples and pears. I used to study slicing the platonic solids and crystallography to get the fundamental basics of geometry to see what places I could go with 3D solid structures. I originally trained as an architect, but product design is way more interesting to me. Many of the things I used to dream up have now come to fruition. The book that most influenced me was Keith Critchlow's, Order in Space - a design source book, which I am happy to see is still in print. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Order-Space-Design-Source-Book/dp/0500340331. Keith was a lecturer at London's Architectural Association, which is not the kind of architectural association you might imagine, a trade body of some kind, but a highly regarded school of architecture. I believe Keith only had/has one eye, so perhaps this led to his deep interest in geometry in making sense of a 3D world he could not see well for himself. He discovered a new single space-filling solid (it is in the book) which attracted the admiration of Buckminster Fuller. I thought that the five platonic solids were the only ones that could be formed from equal sided convex shapes until my father, a PhD geologist, told me I was talking a crock of nonsense and gave me a book on crystals, featuring some skewed solids that had 'handedness', yet were made from one size and shape of polygon with equal length sides. I was fascinated by it all. Philosophically the harmony of the spheres and geometry became to me like a religion, full of wonder and beauty and amazement. I think mathematicians see much of this in the property of numbers, but I am personally too stupid to comprehend them. In recent years I have found Catmull-Clark and to a lesser extent Doo-Sabin subdivision surfaces to be the most innovative development in 3D design that I have seen happen in millennia. At last we have a way of taming accurately dimensioned compound curved surfaces in 3D in a coherent and predictable way, resolution independent in that they can be subdivided again and again making it purer and purer. The proliferation of products today we see with pleasing curves rather than angles is testimony to our new ability. It takes a whole new mindset to design with subdivision surfaces. In the days when we all had to draw at the drawing board on flat paper, with set squares and pens, it was no wonder that hard angles predominated. It would take ages to accurately plot and draw intersections of tubes, or a slice across a tube, in plan and two elevations. We tended to think in the ways that we could convey our concepts in flat drawing form, unless we could sculpt it rather than draw it. But engineering people wanted flat drawings to work from, not a lump of something physical. Yes, but where are your drawings? they would cry. We can now all model in 3D convincingly and accurately. Then we can add bones and animate our meshes. Texture it up, add some particle effects and physics and everyone is their own Pixar. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/C6173D50-60F5-4F63-8C1B-4AAE5BA5C5BE%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] 555 power supply
I often use a classic 555 nixie power supply as I find they always work for me and are very tolerant of any PCB layout abuse I submit them to in my infinite ignorance. My question is: Is there a simple way of switching a 555-generated timer off from a 5v logic gate, as I would like it to go to sleep when I send a PIC to sleep. Thank you in anticipation, John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3A1EAAD2-36FD-4A60-930B-E4349F23F4D8%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[neonixie-l] DS3231 plus memory
I just wanted to say how pleased I am with some little I2C modules that seem to be sold everywhere by the Chinese. They work really well. They have a DS3231 clock, with socketed battery backup including the rechargeable battery, an AT24C32 memory with 4096 bytes of memory, all necessary pullups for everything, including the memory chip select bits, an on LED and a thru bus for adding more stuff onto the I2C chain. At a price that is way less than I can buy the individual parts. All soldered up for me on a PCB. How do they do it? I can get three of these delivered for the cost of one beer in a London pub. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/7E11BFE2-A2DF-4963-BFD7-9D93302ADAE5%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. inline: $_12.JPG
Re: [neonixie-l] 555 power supply
On 12 Apr 2014, at 23:03, Michel van der Meij wrote: Hi John, I use the attached circuit in my ZX81 nixie clock and works great. On J7 pin 1 is the 12V input (mine is 9V btw). Pin 2 can be pulled down to gnd with an open collector circuit which will then power up the 555 circuit. The gate of Q5 is normally kept high by resistor R16 which prevents Q5 from conducting. R16 is not critical, you can also choose a 10K resistor, doesn't matter for as long as the gate is kept high and the open collector transistor can drive it low. Best regards, Michel Thank you Michel, that was very helpful information. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/18187749-6C56-42D4-9C2A-FA91E2B587C0%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Whatbox
On 3 Apr 2014, at 08:26, petehand wrote: Does anyone remember these things? Brits will deduce the era of this device from the currency. It consisted of simple neon relaxation oscillators powered from a 90V portable tube radio battery, the whole potted in solid plastic. I saw much nicer ones a few years later, with miniature neon bulbs soldered to a wire frame and visible through clear resin potting - the battery was potted in black underneath and couldn't be seen. I had a shot at making one myself, but never succeeded in getting the clear casting resin to set without it heating up and cracking. These days I've got plenty of neons - does anyone know where I can find a 90V battery? :) I remember seeing these clear blocks for sale in a chic boutique in South London, late 60s or early 70s. I was fascinated. They were just oh so kooky and groovy and I made my own flashy things with caps and neons after seeing them. As for resin, I once had to make an ecological exhibit for London's Natural History Museum. It was a cross-section through a pond, complete with all the flora and fauna, which was all freeze dried and painted up. The pond was cast over the top with a temporary side wall, in solid casting resin. I rang the resin manufacturers for advice. As a result I gave it a whiff of catalyst that was of homeopathic proportions and the clear casting resin took a whole week to set, to the extent I thought it never ever would and it stank something rotten. Not much in the way of exothermic heat at that rate of curing, but nevertheless a week after that, the pond cracked. How I cried. I'd also made a tree and all around it was all the things that lived around the base of a tree. I'd glued in hundreds of blades of brittle dried grass individually - it had taken me days. Then the postman came in and dumped a parcel on top of it. I cried again. Why didn't I ever get a real job, like my parents told me to? John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/67645E59-DA35-40F0-A7F8-29561D95A88C%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: trigger tube equivilents
On 28 Mar 2014, at 15:52, John Rehwinkel wrote: The problem with old SRBP PCB's is that contacts that rotate on them leave a track of dirt which will carry leakage currents. What is SRBP? - John Synthetic resin bonded paper. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/D148188E-35D9-445F-BF27-C8C81C927597%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs
I bought 1,000 of these and conditioned a whole bunch of them for a ring counter clock. Many of them started to flicker and develop bad habits. I think they are just not very good neons. John S On 1 Mar 2014, at 13:17, Spencer wrote: Hello All! I bought these for the nixie clocks, http://www.ebay.com/itm/251373901401, and they will work for a bit then start flickering all over in the tube, and lighting up in odd places and not where it should be lighting up! An example can be found at, http://imgur.com/O32rVBi . Only the left side is light up, the little light has a mind of its own and has traveled to the back of the tube. I am feeding the little guy +180V and the anode resistor is 220K. I am not sure if its too much current or what not. Several have done this to me. Suggestions? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1393679866.7567.YahooMailNeo%40web120901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/BBF47B8B-8338-45B1-B3BF-C81557EC9D92%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Calling Westdave
On 24 Feb 2014, at 15:11, micha...@aol.com wrote: Isn't it pretty darn stupid for a scammer to email the group without instruction on sending money directly? And, to top it off know that hitting a reply simply goes back to the entire group? The first one I received was to my personal email address, one I don't use with the group. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3BE6A66B-7D12-4136-BD3B-051B4AFBD7E6%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] dekatron computing [and other stuff]
On 8 Feb 2014, at 12:15, lai...@wcoil.com wrote: Kind of rotten to not even get an E-mail. I would say this outfit isn't run very well, or just doesn't care. If you recall, on behalf of those here who donated I had dialogue with them as follows and by the way, Kevin never did get back to me about why it happened. John S old snippage--- Dear John Thank you for your email and for pointing out this lapse on our behalf. Firstly, I must apologise for not being aware of the kind donations from your members, but I am absolutely sure all of these donations is valued and welcomed. Please do pass on my thanks to your members. I will investigate why we didn't respond sooner and get back in touch as soon as I can. I hope we will see you at the museum and see the machine in full working order! Kind regards and many thanks. Kevin Murrell - Trustee 07939 471765 The National Museum of Computing - www.tnmoc.org On 20 November 2012 12:54, Quixotic Nixotic nixci...@jsdesign.co.uk wrote: Hi Kevin, While we are all happy that the Harwell Witch computer is now working again, it seems that members of the neonixie-l@googlegroups.com group that donated their rare tubes to your project never received so much as an acknowledgment for their parting with them. Their rarity and value constituted a financial donation as well as a sacrifice of people's personal collections. I wasn't one of the donors, I don't have rare dekatrons, but there are some disgruntled people who think that some kind of thanks or even a note to say they were received safely might have been in order, Nick de Smith and Grahame Marsh being two of them. It seems to me a bit short-sighted not to have said something - people may be more circumspect about donating any more tubes to your project(s) in future. You would be most welcome to join the group and say a brief collective thanks. Failing that, a quick note from you I could pass on to the group would go down well. Well done for a happy result though. Regards, John Smout ---end snippage--- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/EED4F295-AB85-4081-BA98-2BBBDD97F292%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Royworld
On 30 Jan 2014, at 22:01, Jeff Thomas wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:36:21 PM UTC-7, Nixcited delighted wrote: Anyone come across Royworld before? Modern beat combo - found them by complete accident. Nice to see another NixiSat has surfaced. For the newer members, the NixiSat was my first commercial GPS referenced clock from 2002, and used Z568 nixies. A image of the NixiSat in a cylindrical enclosure: http://www.amug.org/~jthomas/nixisatc.html Regards, Jeff Again by accident, while looking for cheap cheesy singles for my jukeboxes, I found copies of the UK band Royworld's 7 single on UK ebay for 99p plus 50p UK postage. Cheap enough to throw at the cat and make the baby laugh. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160879674281 They have 7 copies available. Jeff might want one as a souvenir, just for the cover. Happy to blag some copies and send them on to US at cost, if anyone is interested, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E122FC2E-C1FB-4623-9778-8C16C63667A9%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. inline: $(KGrHqV,!hkE+323NeO,BQSn-HwFM!~~60_1.JPG
Re: [neonixie-l] Kopriso nixie watch not for geeks
I never met Sid, he was already dead, but I did know his mum Anne Beverley through a mutual friend in the music business. She told me crazy stories about Sid, like the time he came round and urinated on her television while she was watching it. She asked him why and Sid said he was 'combatting radiation'. Sid then crashed through a window and left. Sid's craziness was down to Anne in many ways. Anne was a hippie who'd messed about a lot in Ibiza in her youth, I think she'd brought Sid up there. She had her own heroin problem. She was generally bad news. Not a good role model that's for sure. I recall Anne and her boyfriend were arrested on some serious drug-dealing charges. Personally I wouldn't idolise any of the Sex Pistols. Not some of the world's greatest movers and shakers, musically or otherwise. A wholly manufactured band and somewhat tedious, but each to their own I suppose. The expensive single 'God Save the Queen' single on AM is not nearly as rare as people think Although it was trashed I can tell you that a large quantity were salvaged by staff out of the skip/dumpster. When AM UK closed down a friend of mine, who worked there, was given a copy by her manager, as were all the other people she'd worked with. The woman who gave it to my friend had a locker full of them. My friend sold hers some years ago for £3,500 to a Japanese collector. What they are worth now, I have no idea. Lovely watch though Michel John S On 2 Feb 2014, at 21:04, Michel wrote: Hi Guys, As some of you may know, yesterday was the day Sid Vicious died 35 years ago. I thought it would be a nice idea to wear a watch for that day to remember him. I never got so many comments about my watch as yesterday! That was truly amazing and totally unexpected. I did it my way. Michel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/0C8DBD38-71B4-49B2-B5A3-5F46FB042A67%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[neonixie-l] Steampunk
My feelings are best left unspoken, https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1692415722/steampunk-nixie-clock John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/8C352420-EAA8-469D-AC4F-8867BE10DC1B%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Steampunk
On 25 Jan 2014, at 06:10, Michel van der Meij wrote: I would feel a bit anxious to leave a wooden clock switched on for say 24 hrs/day, especially if it is not my own design. Just worried it would catch fire at a moment I am asleep or not there. Is that just me or do other people have that same worry? He does say I have a working model of the clock which I have fired up, run for days, and has had no issues. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CCC531F0-8043-4F36-A6AE-9718CA8ED13B%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Putting a film on tubes...
On 17 Jan 2014, at 02:53, Nicholas Stock wrote: I remember a long time ago someone was describing how to color the glass envelope on a nixie tube...are there any instructions out there on how to do this? I believe our esteemed group leader Nick de Smith had some good results and I am sure he will recall his experiences for us in due course. I ventured to suggest French Enamel Varnish, FEV. This is bleached shellac with spirit dye. As it says at http://www.flints.co.uk/acatalog/French_Enamel_Varnish.html - can also be used to colour low wattage light bulbs. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/F394BDB0-ADBB-4083-B61D-BFEF4675F0F9%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Gottlieb VFDs
On 17 Jan 2014, at 17:55, John Rehwinkel wrote: Reading a bit more about how Gottlieb used these displays, they put the filament AC voltage on an 8v DC offset pedestal for the big displays and 5v DC for the smaller VFDs. Is this going to be necessary if I am using a 0v-5v AC filament that never goes negative? No, shouldn't be necessary. It's nice to have the filaments a little bit positive, so grounding the anodes/grids gives a good solid turn off (effectively, negative bias). Running them with 0-5V gives an effective -2.5V bias, which should be sufficient (the transformer-derived AC doesn't have that built-in bias). You can, if you want, AC couple the drive and float it higher to reduce ghosting, but I doubt it'll be necessary. - John Thank you for the detailed response John, it is much appreciated. I have ordered some MAX628CPA+ samples - they seem to be similar to the TSC428 with non-inverted/inverted outputs for the AC drive. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E1A13144-DBAF-45C5-98B4-CAA5C8F8A678%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Ins1 socket
I bought a bunch of bare bayonet bases from Goodwill sales. Chinese, but a UK outlet. They say free shipping to US: http://www.ebay.com/itm/190959073359 http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Goodwill-Leds-Sales/AUTO-LED-LAMPS-AND-ACCESSORIES-/_i.html?_fsub=352352014_sid=142199144_trksid=p4634.c0.m322 Punch in BA9S lamp base and you should get more Chinese sellers, ie: http://www.ebay.com/itm/121207575953 Matching sockets are easy to find, standard car/pinball machine size. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2D13C9D1-6BDD-45E9-A5A8-E3C937B0B580%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] My latest clock
Is there something about you we should know, Morris? John S On 5 Jan 2014, at 00:35, Morris Odell wrote: Hi all, I was in New Zealand recently and visited the Clapham National Clock Museum in a town called Whangarei. One of the items there caught my eye, it was a German skull clock from the 1920s as seen here. I thought a Nixie version would be just the thing for my office at the Institute where I am a senior physician. A couple of weeks of intensive work over the summer break and here it is: http://youtu.be/6rHZqU2x3EA The skull is a plastic anatomical model which has been surgically modified to fit two dekatrons in the orbits. There's also a small speaker in the cranial cavity to sound the ticks and the Westminster chimes. The devices in the nasal cavity are a LED and a PIR sensor to switch on the display only in the presence of warm live humans. The red button on the front of the box is the alarm switch. The time display is made using Russian IN-17 tubes multiplexed in 3 groups of two. In the box is a PCB with an AVR micro and appropriate power supply and interface electronics for the tubes and speaker. The dekatrons are purely ornamental and not part of the timebase as in previous clocks I have made. As this clock is going into an internal office there's no GPS receiver included so it is set manually and gets its timing from the mains frequency. Happy New Year to all, Morris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/A1898C42-C99E-47B5-901B-5F932E2ACADE%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Seasonal greetings
On 26 Dec 2013, at 13:19, JohnK wrote: Wowsie... nice box John K Who are we talking about now? I'm lost. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/95C7A7D4-ACB9-46B6-800F-111A4CE5EEC7%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Seasonal greetings
On 26 Dec 2013, at 13:56, JohnK wrote: ah... the picture on Nick's post. ah… I thought you were replying to my topic subject. Nick has many interesting boxes and inside most are other interesting boxes, John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/69BF8B83-A6AC-4316-A466-F665B6177FCF%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[neonixie-l] Seasonal greetings
On 25 Dec 2013, at 05:04, Matthew Smith wrote: It's the folks on lists like these that can make the difference of an enjoyable hobby and a source of frustration. Thanks all, from me. M Oh I do so agree Matthew. I used to enjoy my hobby very much when I lived in blissful ignorance, but through this list I now know that almost everything electronic I do is either wrong or very limited in scope and features, which can be frustrating. I've been dissolving colophony in isopropyl alcohol to make a cheap liquid flux. It seems effective to me, but I bet someone here can tell me this is also not a good idea. Seasonal greetings to you all, John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/E43DBD7B-5B9E-4ADD-8CDD-805DF14B8E46%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Otis Elevator Tube Hivac 425A2
On 30 Sep 2013, at 07:30, Nick wrote: On Monday, 30 September 2013 04:05:22 UTC+1, Joseph Bento wrote: Here's a video of a guy getting really excited over the touch buttons: Ummm. I thought that we were pretty sad liking cold-cathode stuff that much, but I think that this guy need professional help ! Nick Yes, and do remember people, its easy to get hooked on them like that and lifts/elevators can go down as well as up, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/B259F063-A656-4756-85ED-D921054EC51E%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Another progress in making nixies
Hello guys, I think I can call this first my first nixie tube ;-) Well done, a beautiful job. Best wishes, John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/7AE3E843-F06B-4A23-B77D-BC788291EAB3%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] VFD lifetime
On 23 Jul 2013, at 01:21, gregeb...@hotmail.com wrote: The recent IV-11 posts have aroused my curiosity, so does anyone have firsthand experience with long-lifetime VFD displays ? I'd want to keep mine on all the time. Obviously the filament is a concern, and I'd be tempted to crank down the current as much as possible before the segments are no longer uniformly illuminated. I admit I'm spoiled by the long-life Burroughs nixies; is there any hope that a VFD would last anywhere near as long ? I suppose the Futaba VFD displays used in Gottlieb pinball machines offer a good comparison to the panaplex style displays used by WIliiams, Bally and Stern. Generally it has been found that the VFD displays have outlasted the gas plasma displays in games of a similar era, starting in 1977. The game Cleopatra was the first VFD Gottlieb in 1977, introduced with the slogan What's new is blue. Early Gottliebs used either Sprague UDN6118A or Dionics D1513 drivers. Often a dim pinball VFD is regenerated by burning the crud off by whamming 12v through the filament for about 7-12 seconds on 6 digit displays, or 8v for the 4 digit displays. I don't know if this ultimately shortens display life, but I have heard of people repeating this once a year to keep them looking bright. So in answer to your question, there is lots of hope that VFDs last as long or even exceed gas plasma. John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/11151A7A-5F09-45D6-89FA-0F31E25E28F5%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Has anyone bought, built or evaluated this kit?
On 18 Jun 2013, at 18:54, Dave wrote: Any reviews or comments? ebay in-14 clock kit I think a bare PCB and microcontroller is stretching the kit idea a bit. A bare pcb and a programmed chip for 29 dollars isn't a huge bargain. Especially as you have to source the exact switches etc that he used, or kludge it. The whole clock kit is actually 129 dollars: ebay 271169083384 John S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/8EEFDB56-30AB-48A3-BC10-779728C8B3AA%40jsdesign.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
