Re: Website that crashes NS.
On 14 Aug 2008 Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jess Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: http://www.jessops.com/Downloads/Cameras Does this crash for everyone? Yep. Crashes here on an Iyonix running build r5066 Not here; works with an Iyonix and the same build. Is there a clash with another app, perhaps? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Failure to submit logfie to the bug tracker - yet again.
I've just submitted bug report 2027765 about a fatal crash on www.traintimes.org.uk and have once again been unable to send the logfile. This is 10K log when zipped, and appears to have been truncated by the crash. On trying to submit it with the file, I get the error failed creating formpost data, as invariably happens when I try to do this. Please, what is wrong and where? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with web site
On 15 Jul 2008 David Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Ruck Wrote Different problem, it hung after loading and when I scrolled down. I Interesting..I have this too as I discovered yesterday and have just had it happen on another site but not able to alt break out of the problem in either case. www.thepeoplehistory.com Funny; seems to work perfectly here with NetSurf 2.0 (Dev) (11 Jul 2008 19:30) r4621 and RISC OS 5.13. Interesting site, and thanks for mentioning it! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Tm \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Halting problem
On 19 Jun 2008 Chris Terran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before reporting this on the tracker, I'd be grateful for confirmation that it happens on other people's setups. I'm not totally sure it's a NetSurf problem. Go to http://www.shutterstock.com/ Enter something in the search box (eg fruit). Wait until the page has rendered, then click on Next. After 4 or 5 repeats of clicking on Next (it varies), the whole thing grinds to a halt, with fewer and fewer thumbnails being displayed. Got up to 10 nexts here. RISC OS 5.13, NetSurf 2.0 (Dev) (17 Jun 2008 14:45) r4376. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.0 (Dev) (17 Jun 2008 14:45) r4376
Can't attach logfile to bug tracker submission, as usual.
Copy of text of bug report: [quote] RISC OS 5.13, NetSurf r4226, 30 May 04:15. I've been using www.bbc.co.uk as my home page for some time without any problem. Since I downloaded this build I have had a fatal crash on start-up three times. www.bbc.co.uk/radio3 works fine. I have a logfile zipped (57K) but as usual I've been unable to attach this; should I send it to anyone? With best wishes, Peter. PS Why does this always seem to happen? Who would like the file? -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Even more OT (was: Re: Another suggestion for NetSurf)
On 13 May 2008 Tim Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 May 2008 Tim Hill wrote: Btw, it's a criterion - spell checkers don't spot grammatical and semantic errors. I hope one day someone will come along with a pedantry checker. ;-) I knew someone would say that! Using the right word or ending instead of the wrong one isn't pedantry! No, your intervention was pedantry. And OT. Pedantry? Accuracy? OT? OK! I regret that this is the sort of phenomena for which the media has to take the blame, with its ignorance of singulars and plurals. And don't start me on data; Data isn't what they used to be: Philip Howard. scuttles off into a druck-proof shelter. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Long render times
On 10 May 2008 Chris Terran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keith Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris Terran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This isn't really a bug, I suppose, but I'm interested in why pages from the TWO forum like this: http://theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/forums/t/18204.aspx take such a long time to render (over two minutes sometimes), with extensive hourglassing. Even up here in the Southern hemisphere it took less than four seconds - and that is with 150 objects to load! That's interesting -- 4 seconds is probably about the speed I'd expect from a page like this. Hence my curiosity! FWIW, 13.3 seconds here. RISC OS 5.13, NetSurf 2.0 (Dev) (04 May 2008 19:15) r4124. Oh, and broadband, obviously :-) With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Er \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NetSurf at Wakefield 2008
On 27 Apr 2008 Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: The developers present will be at least: John-Mark Bell Michael Drake Rob Kendrick Daniel Silverstone ( http://www.netsurf-browser.org/about/team ) I think that web page should have mug shots added to it, so we can recognise them all. :-) I must confess that I didn't recognise everyone on the NetSurf stand at Wakefield, and didn't really want to embarrass myself totally by have to go and ask who was who! I regret that I embarrassed myself by trying to thank the developers, only to be met with blank stares. Am I that much of a pariah? :-) With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NetSurf printing
On 27 Feb 2008 Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Ashbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: Brilliant it now works - well, on some sites anyway. Is this the ink jet driver, or postscript? I presume PostScript is still broken, as I can't seem to get it to work here. Nor here with PostScript. Is there any prospect of this PostScript problem being sorted out? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NetSurf printing
On 28 Feb 2008 John-Mark Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:57:32 GMT, Dr Peter Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Feb 2008 Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Ashbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: Brilliant it now works - well, on some sites anyway. Is this the ink jet driver, or postscript? I presume PostScript is still broken, as I can't seem to get it to work here. Nor here with PostScript. Of course not; noone's made any claims that PDriverPS has been fixed. I'm somewhat confused, therefore, as to the state of bafflement that exists here. Is there any prospect of this PostScript problem being sorted out? Not be me at least -- it was bad enough fixing PDriverDP without direct access to either a printer or, perhaps more usefully, a RISC OS machine. I don't have time to wade through the thousands of pages of PostScript language specification to work out what's required. This effort would be most certainly wasted, anyway, as people who are already experts in dealing with PostScript are working on improving PostScript printing. Many thanks for this clarification, and I'll wait patiently for the results of the other experts. You are one yourself, of course, and your efforts are greatly appreciated by us trogs. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NetSurf printing
On 25 Feb 2008 John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25 Feb, Dr Peter Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a word, no, not here anyway. As I understand it, PostScript drivers with Printers 1.73, at least till now, can't cope with Unicode fonts, and PostScript drivers are all I have here. However, if someone can tell me differently ... So why is it all working here? Seems very strangebut welcome. Has there been a new 1.73, perhaps? Or am I missing some necessary modules? If so, what should I have, and where do I get them? Perhaps it will fall on its face next time I try. I doubt it! TIA, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NetSurf printing
On 25 Feb 2008 Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dr Peter Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: Has there been a new 1.73, perhaps? Or am I missing some necessary modules? If so, what should I have, and where do I get them? I've got all the latest versions installed here and I still can't get printing to postscript printers from NetSurf. That makes me feel better! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Er \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: background colour problem
On 29 Jan 2008 Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you go to page: http://www.dft.gov.uk/ActOnCO2/index.php?q=tips_and_advice you'll notice (I hope) that some of the menu items on the left have black text on a black background. [snip] Even odder ... If you're inquisitive enough to go to the Welsh (Cymraeg) version of the same page, it comes out correctly. FWIW. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NetSurf printing
On 25 Jan 2008 Richard Ashbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has any progress be made with NetSurf's printing on RISC OS 5? The current release has the same help instructions as previous issues about lack of Font Manager and printer drivers support - there is a comment about a patch for non-Postscript printers that has been submitted to RISC OS Open Ltd. Some people have reported success in printing to a non-PostScript printer using the latest release of !Printers; I don't have one of these, so I still can't :-( With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Er \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netsurf and the Euro
On 18 Jan 2008 Alexander Ausserstorfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Netsurf (version 1.1 from 13. August) isn't able to show the (EUR)-sign correctly, is it? Or do I something wrong? It shows it here; 28 December 07 build, and RISC OS 5.13. Are you using a font that doesn't have the symbol? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netsurf buttonbar
On 2 Jan 2008 Tony Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who, like me, has difficulty in remembering keyboard shortcuts, may be interested in http://oldcoaster.drobe.co.uk/ns_bbar.zip [30KB] Tony Excellent; many thanks. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fatal crash on BBC beta home page.
The new BBC beta home page ( www.bbc.co.uk/home/beta ) has been gradually getting more manageable with NetSurf (currently 23 Dec 2007 16:15 on RISC OS 5.13). However, today it has crashed the app with a fatal error. I've tried to report this on the bug tracker, but get an error message when I try to submit. Is this because the log file is too big? If so, how should I get this report and log file to the developers? TIA, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fatal crash on BBC beta home page.
On 29 Dec 2007 James Bursa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The new BBC beta home page ( www.bbc.co.uk/home/beta ) has been gradually getting more manageable with NetSurf (currently 23 Dec 2007 16:15 on RISC OS 5.13). However, today it has crashed the app with a fatal error. I've tried to report this on the bug tracker, but get an error message when I try to submit. Is this because the log file is too big? If so, how should I get this report and log file to the developers? Yes, it's probably too big. Please submit the report without the log file, and email the log file to me. OK, will do tomorrow. Thanks! And to you too! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bbc beta
On 15 Dec 2007 Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dr Peter Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: It may be of interest, but it's a /total/ dog's breakfast with NetSurf. Are they really going to foist this on us instead of the current site? Looks like they're trying to copy something like Facebook! :-( To be fair to them, it's looking a lot better in NetSurf now. I'll compare it with what shows in Firefox when I have the Windows machine on later. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Background colours
On 16 Dec 2007 Tim Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Symes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a problem... guess there is an answer but can't seem to find it. Silly people Guilty m'lud. create sites with black backgrounds, then plonk grey text on it... or Dark blue text. oops www.tightfittheatre.co.uk/index.htm In Oregano, If I tick Off the Use Document colours the black background is replaced with white and I can see the grey text. Okay, so our text isn't the darkest blue in Netsurf, and there's more white than grey text. Is it legible? Yes. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Er \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bbc beta
On 14 Dec 2007 Tony Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/14/bbc_hompage_update/ may be of interest. The beta home page is at http://www.bbc.co.uk/home/beta/ and a justification (with bbc owl) and discussion is at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2007/12/a_lick_of_paint_for_the _bbc_ho.html It may be of interest, but it's a /total/ dog's breakfast with NetSurf. Are they really going to foist this on us instead of the current site? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Builds
On 11 Nov 2007 Tony Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11 Nov 2007, Rob Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 10:01 +, John Williams wrote: I have experienced difficulties finding out about new builds because (presumably) my ISP (NTL) caches pages. The more often I check, the less likely, it seems, to find them! Try subscribing to cia.navi.cx/stats/project/NetSurf/.rss Too much info here for someone who merely wants to know when to update, I think! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Table centering going awry?
On 30 Oct 2007 Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Barry.Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] muttered: In the latest versions of Netsurf, including 28th Oct r3636 I don't think the table in the following link should be centered. With version 1.1 it isn't. http://www.zen57462.zen.co.uk/nowirul/emadd/test.htm Is it a bug which should be reported? Yes, it's a bug. It's getting confused by the align=center in the first (outer) table. Remove that and it displays correctly. Ignorant question Is this anything to do with the continued mal-formatting of www.bbc.co.uk (UK version)? /ignorant Not that it's a major problem. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with latest build
On 23 Oct 2007 Joe Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The web page http://www.comp.lancs.ac.uk/computing/users/ss/software/draw2svg/ is displayed OK with Netsurf 1.1 but my Iyonix 'hangs' when the current (15 Oct) build is used to access this page. Confirmed here, too. Do you feel a report to the bug tracker coming on? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bbc 'new look' website (OT now)
On 17 Sep 2007 Brian Howlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17 Sep, Tony Moore wrote: In http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/over_to_you.shtml the BBC says that Over the coming months the BBC World Service will be working on creating a new look and feel to the English site and we could really use listeners help. ... To join in the discussions ... please visit ... http://www.virtualsurveysdiscussion.com/news/express-signup For me, using NetSurf, that link redirects to 'Access denied ...' at http://www.virtualsurveysdiscussion.com/news/init-survey and no obvious way of creating a new account. Does anyone else fare better? Trying the init-survey link direct from NetSurf on Iyonix, and Firefox and IE on WinXP gives the Access denied page, however clicking on the express-signup link takes me to the survey page OK. NetSurf doesn't like this HTML: pa href=/news/survey2/p h2Click here to join the forum now/h2 p/a/p so the link to carry on after the initial survey doesn't work. It works in Firefox on the PC, so will probably work using RISC OS Firefox, but I haven't tested that. Just tried, and it doesn't work with RO Firefox (RISC OS 5.13). No sign of an express signup link. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HSBC once again.
I've reported a problem whereby the HSBC personal banking site makes NetSurf hang. The site has been redesigned; it now looks horrible, but it doesn't cause a hang, at least today. I've posted a follow-up on the bug tracker, and I'll post again when I've had a few more successful sessions on this site. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne \ / ____ \ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
