Re: [newbie] Exiting KDE
Hey thanks alot! Solved my problem! Ndk | Ralph | wrote: hey just type in ctrl,alt,backspace at the same time this will shut x down and you can restartx. Ralph -Original Message- From: Don Bonomini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 7:00 PM Subject: [newbie] Exiting KDE Hey all! I recently got a "theme installer", which installs desktop themes on KDE by running one install script. But when I run it, it changes the desktop and everything fine, but the "start bar" type thing, and the "task" bar dissapeer. So I cant shut K down! After i power off, and Linux re-starts, all the menu's are there and are fine. So is there any key command, or anyother way to shut KDE down, without selecting logout from the menu? Thanks, Any help will be appreciated! Linux 4 eVa!
Re: [newbie] Klogin?
At 10:50 11/03/99 -0500, you wrote: OK, so what do I do if I accidentally set my runlevel to 5 BEFORE reading your warning, Gael? ;) I am indeed caught in a loop... and can't exit the X server without rebooting. Paul - Original Message -From: GaelDuvalTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Klogin? You'll need to reboot (gently as possible or just hit the reset) then when you get the lilo boot message type "linux single" (assuming the label for your kernel is "linux". This should put you into single user mode (surprise, surprise) where you can put your inittab back to a safe state. hih nick@nexnix
RE: [newbie] Klogin?
Paul - when you come up to the lilo prompt, when booting, type the linux label followed by 3, which will boot you back at the run level 3, which is the text-based console. example is: lilo: linux 3 You can then edit the etc/inittab file and set the default back to 3. By the way, this also works to test the graphical user logon. Simply boot with linux 5 to set it at the run level 5, and verify that you can log in that way before you change the inittab. take care, Bill Moshier -Original Message- From: Paul A. Bernicchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 7:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Klogin? OK, so what do I do if I accidentally set my runlevel to 5 BEFORE reading your warning, Gael? ;) I am indeed caught in a loop... and can't exit the X server without rebooting. Paul - Original Message - From: Gael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Duval To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Klogin? Kuraiken wrote: Sorry for butting in like this but could you send my the /etc/inittab modifications? Running tha above script alone does not have the desired effect. I think it's because, unlike Lawrence, I installed clean with Mandrake. I'd imagine that Lawrence also ended up doing a clean install and formatting the partition that SuSE was previously on. It's rather odd that the instructions didn't work for you. Have you tried rebooting since the change? or typing "telinit 5"? You'll need to do one of the two to cause the change to take effect. If neither of those solutions fix it, here's what you need to change in /etc/inittab. Find the line that reads: id:3:initdefault: and change it to read: id:5:initdefault: Then find the line that reads: x:5:respawn:/usr/bin/X11/xdm -nodaemon and change it to read: x:5:respawn:/opt/kde/bin/kdm -nodaemon Then do the reboot or telinit command mentioned above. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Steve, Thanks for the tip. I did run /opt/kde/bin/kdm_on And then, as instructed "telinit 3 ; telinit 5" Which switched to the klogin screen. However, upon reboot, it went back to the normal (penguin) login. So I checked the /etc/inittab. What I found that the last line did indeed say: x:5:respawn:/opt/kde/bin/kdm -nodaemon But, the line: id:3:initdefault: remained at 3. It was not set to runlevel 5. Perhaps kdm_on does not set this properly? So I checked (opened it in kedit). Now...I don't understand the commands "sed blahblahblah" etc but under the "# make modified inittab" line (which is a comment, I know) There is no "id:5:initdefault:" string in the script file whereas "x:5:respawn:/opt/kde/bin/kdm -nodaemon" does exist. So it would seem that you will still need to change the inittab by hand? The other longer term solution is of course to edit kdm_on in the main dist for future versions of Mandrake. Did I find a bug? :-) no :-) we cannot actually set /etc/inittab to runlevel 5 by default because there is a risk of non recoverable loop error at boot time if the graphics hardware is not recognized or badly configured. However, there will be big changes about that in the next Mandrake (6.0) ;-) Greets, Gael. -- Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://linuxmandrake.com http://linuxmandrake.com QPL : "With the release of this license, KDE and the Qt Free Edition are truly Open Source(tm)". Bruce Perens, Opensource.org.
[newbie] mouse problems
Problem: need to run 'mouseconfig --kickstart' everytime before I start 'startx' to get my mouse to work. When I run the normal 'mouseconfig' and select my mouse that never seems to work. only the kickstart suboption. If I close kde and 'startx' again the mouse will not move. Same thing plagued me with linux 5.0. Any suggestions??? system: p233 mmx 128 ram ide cdrom 2 ide 3.2gig hd 2 button serial microsoft mouse v.2.1a I hope this helps. pj
Re: [newbie] Cool Poll! :)
I would like to do so but until now, no one can come up with a fix on my keyboard bug. I've even tried installing Redhat 5.2 and upgrade to Mandrake 5.3 to no avail. I've even fdisked my master boot record, I've tried upgrading from Caldera Openlinux and yet, I still get "r66t instead of "root" so, I cannot even log in. I really thought I was going to take off on my Linux when I read about Mandrake. Something is broke in Linux 5.3. I've tried installing my different types of Redhat 5.s (sam's unleashed, official and Cheap bytes) and I don't have that problem. I can log in successfully with Red hat but not mandrake. marivi -- On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 00:54:55 Gael Duval wrote: Hello! There is a cool poll on: http://www.linuxcountry.com/ You can choose Mandrake for the best distribution! Actually, RedHat leads with 47.1% and Mandrake just follow! with 19.9% :-) It's still time to do more than RH ;-) http://www.linuxcountry.com/ Greets, Gael. -- Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://linuxmandrake.com QPL : "With the release of this license, KDE and the Qt Free Edition are truly Open Source(tm)". Bruce Perens, Opensource.org. Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com
Re: [newbie] Cool Poll! :)
Marivi wrote: I would like to do so but until now, no one can come up with a fix on my keyboard bug. I've even tried installing Redhat 5.2 and upgrade to Mandrake 5.3 to no avail. I've even fdisked my master boot record, I've tried upgrading from Caldera Openlinux and yet, I still get "r66t instead of "root" so, I cannot even log in. I really thought I was going to take off on my Linux when I read about Mandrake. Something is broke in Linux 5.3. I've tried installing my different types of Redhat 5.s (sam's unleashed, official and Cheap bytes) and I don't have that problem. I can log in successfully with Red hat but not mandrake. Your problem comes certainly from our initscripts which set numlock on at boot time (RedHat does not). This is a problem with a few type of laptops under Linux. Please try to set your numlock off and log as root. Greets, Gael. -- Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://linuxmandrake.com QPL : "With the release of this license, KDE and the Qt Free Edition are truly Open Source(tm)". Bruce Perens, Opensource.org.
[newbie] PNP modem not seen under Mandrake 5.3
Prior to installing Mandrake 5.3 the modem was working just fine under RedHat 5.2 (apollo). Any suggestions on how to get it to work under a Mandrake installation. Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" [hp] 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.
Re: [newbie] Adding shortcuts to the Desktop?
On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 03:48:30 -0500, Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quinton Jones Jr wrote: Hi All, Glad to be a member. Now, how do you add shortcuts to the desktop. The help file says to use kglobalshortcut, but where is that at? Use the File Manager to find the file that you want to shortcut to on the desktop. Drag the icon onto the desktop, then select "Link" from the menu that will popup. Thanks for the tip Steve, that did the trick. (:-) Regards, Qman...
[newbie] Pre-purchase info
I'm currently running RH 5.2 w/KDE 1.1 (which I downloaded). I'm thinking of getting the Mandrake dist. since during my (mis)adventures with Linux I sometimes end up hozing the system and have had to do a complete re-install. Since Mandrake seems to integrate a lot of the things I want, re-installation (every now and then) doesn't sound to be as painful. I do have a couple of questions: First, will I be able to set up Mandrake exactly the same way as under my "original" Red Hat Linux? i.e., can I use linuxconf, usernet, etc. to configure/manage users, passwords, network settings, and the like? Or would Mandrake and KDE force me to re-learn all over again? I've heard people have problems with kppp. I've gotten somewhat familiar with where things are and how they work under my current install. Second, what are the similarities and differences in the installation process between Mandrake the original RH Linux 5.2? Does KDE install and "start" automatically, or do I still have to configure things after installation? In other words, I found the install process in RH 5.2 very user-friendly--is it the same in Mandrake? Third, are there any places in Toronto, Canada that sell Mandrake CD's? Thanks. -Pankil
Re: [newbie] Boot up Error Message
A very good test to see if it's memory or bios-too-"optimized" related is to compile something big (a kernel for example) several times in a row. If your system succeeds to do so without any error, your system can be considered clean on that point and you can start to think about a new hard disk :-) Tell us how things turn out, well, I've recomplied 2.0.36 twice and 2.2.3 twice as well. All of them went through smoothly. Does that mean my system is clean? The disk change will be a major headache..:(
Re: [newbie] Klogin?
Please don't ask me how to use vi. I don't have the time to answer ;-) pico will run in single user mode:) It's much easier to use. I use pico for all my simple editing needs. -JC
Re: [newbie] Pre-purchase info
Pankil Richards wrote: I'm currently running RH 5.2 w/KDE 1.1 (which I downloaded). I'm thinking of getting the Mandrake dist. since during my (mis)adventures with Linux I sometimes end up hozing the system and have had to do a complete re-install. Since Mandrake seems to integrate a lot of the things I want, re-installation (every now and then) doesn't sound to be as painful. I do have a couple of questions: First, will I be able to set up Mandrake exactly the same way as under my "original" Red Hat Linux? i.e., can I use linuxconf, usernet, etc. to configure/manage users, passwords, network settings, and the like? yes Or would Mandrake and KDE force me to re-learn all over again? no I've heard people have problems with kppp. I've gotten somewhat familiar with where things are and how they work under my current install. Second, what are the similarities and differences in the installation process between Mandrake the original RH Linux 5.2? none Does KDE install and "start" automatically, yes or do I still have to configure things after installation? no In other words, I found the install process in RH 5.2 very user-friendly--is it the same in Mandrake? yes Third, are there any places in Toronto, Canada that sell Mandrake CD's? http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/america.html Thanks. -Pankil -- Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://linuxmandrake.com QPL : "With the release of this license, KDE and the Qt Free Edition are truly Open Source(tm)". Bruce Perens, Opensource.org.
Re: [newbie] Boot up Error Message
In a message dated 3/11/99 3:23:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ? Maybe the disk is starting to go bad. no, but this happens with floppy boot as well. I think it is your RAM. I once had this problem as well. RAM seems to be causing a lot of this kind of intermittent problems. Also, one more thing you might want to try is changing the bios settings. I think you need to disable shadowing (although I don't think this would cause problems as such) and also any "memory holes" settings. You might want to try loading bios defaults (which is considered "safe" by the manufacturer - that is no unsafe performance boosts enabled) and then go around disabling those things above. (I once had such weirdness from wrong bios memory settings so it's worth a look) Thanks for all the help mail.:) I think I will try to nail down the problem first by: 1. check BIOS setting 2. reseat RAM 3. Change HD I really hate to change HD, as I have this system setup already. Can someone gimme a brief run though on how to transfer files from one HD to another without loosing all my settings and programs? I can have another HD hooked in there and copy everything over, but I don't know how will linux handle it. Any help in this transfer would be great!:) this is kind of a quick rig for ya if you have an internel CD-ROM drive take the cabels out of that and stick it into the hard drive while the computers off of course then drag the first hard drive icon to the second and let it copy the data then see if you can boot from that drive
Re: [newbie] Boot up Error Message
I have sucessfully used a program called Ghost to mirror hard drives. It is made by Symantec but I know Powerquest also makes one. Jeffrey Chen wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Kuraiken wrote: Is this booting from a floppy? Maybe the disk is starting to go bad. no, but this happens with floppy boot as well. I think it is your RAM. I once had this problem as well. RAM seems to be causing a lot of this kind of intermittent problems. Also, one more thing you might want to try is changing the bios settings. I think you need to disable shadowing (although I don't think this would cause problems as such) and also any "memory holes" settings. You might want to try loading bios defaults (which is considered "safe" by the manufacturer - that is no unsafe performance boosts enabled) and then go around disabling those things above. (I once had such weirdness from wrong bios memory settings so it's worth a look) Thanks for all the help mail.:) I think I will try to nail down the problem first by: 1. check BIOS setting 2. reseat RAM 3. Change HD I really hate to change HD, as I have this system setup already. Can someone gimme a brief run though on how to transfer files from one HD to another without loosing all my settings and programs? I can have another HD hooked in there and copy everything over, but I don't know how will linux handle it. Any help in this transfer would be great!:) -JC -- Jerry Dean 5919 E.Pima St. Tucson, AZ 85712 520-296-7176
Re: [newbie] modem install configure?
A few places. either type 'modemconfig' or 'setup' pj Jerry Dean wrote: Hello all A question from an extreme linux newbie: I had no problem installing Mandrake on my Pentium II 350 with 128 ram, co existing with Win 98, I thought the intitial install was actually as easy as Windows, my question is where do I find information on modem configuration? I have searched faq and the user info but cannot seem to find any info. Thanks in advance. -- Jerry Dean 5919 E.Pima St. Tucson, AZ 85712 520-296-7176 -- - PJ Tech Support help.jps.net
[newbie] Sound Card Problems...
Hey everybody, I have a official sound blaster 16 ISA card in my linux box. I am new to linux and don't exactly know how to get linux to initialize and recognize it. Any help in getting it working would be helpfull. Thankyou in advance...Later, :) - Signed, Bob 'Reveral' Bonifield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fraggin' in the Heartland http://lan.quakecity.net/
[newbie] KDE THEMES HELP!
Hi im a newbie and i was installing themes in KDE for Mandrake, and i came across some scripts that speed up the process. But as I ran the scripts the theme installed the only thing was that the backround image was always absent. Is there anyway of making it install the backround image as well that comes the theme? Or do i have to put it on manually every single time?
[newbie] kernel upgrade fail at module dependencies
Hi, I have a test machine in fact the one this email is coming from. I installed a clean 5.3 install and upgraded all the rpms as told except the kernel had to be done -ivh not -Uvh . Any way this is what happened 1.again clean install of mandrake 5.3 2.then all rpm files from mandrake 3.edited /etc/lilo.conf to point to 2.3.3 the new kernel 4.then ran /sbin/lilo 5.all seemed fine up to here 6.now reboot 7.comes up to finding module dependentsy or some thing like that and just stopped there not even cntrl alt delet would reboot had to power down. 8. Now I install my boot disk I created at step 1 9. It came all the way up and gave me login prompt I then logged in and found that I had no etho support I could no longer get out on the net it seemed that the etho did not setup. any idea what I may still need or what has gone wrong. I am getting good at using the mandrake CD install. Thanks alot Bob
Re: [newbie] Sound Card Problems...
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, you wrote: Hey everybody, I have a official sound blaster 16 ISA card in my linux box. I am new to linux and don't exactly know how to get linux to initialize and recognize it. Any help in getting it working would be helpfull. Thankyou in advance...Later, :) G'day Bob Me again, from the command line logged in as root run sndconfig, should get up up and going -- Michael Doyle Adelaide, South Australia ICQ #2635762 http://landofoz.apana.org.au
Re: [newbie] Sound Card Problems...
Bob Bonifield wrote: Hey everybody, I have a official sound blaster 16 ISA card in my linux box. I am new to linux and don't exactly know how to get linux to initialize and recognize it. Any help in getting it working would be helpfull. Thankyou in advance...Later, :) Type "sndconfig" w/o quotes at the command line and follow the instructions. Hope this helped.
Re: [newbie] Boot up Error Message
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: then drag the first hard drive icon to the second and let it copy the data Does this actually work?! I would have imagined that /dev would cause problems (a simple cp in /dev will quickly fill your destination directory... that /dev/zero file just never ends...) And you don't want to copy /proc over, since it's a fake filesystem to begin with. then see if you can boot from that drive Unless it's doing a binary copy from drive to drive, he's going to be missing the boot sector, isn't he? I don't mean to be rude or question whether this really works. I don't have extra space, else I'd try it myself. Can anyone confirm that this works?? -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] PNP modem not seen under Mandrake 5.3
Quinton Jones Jr wrote: Prior to installing Mandrake 5.3 the modem was working just fine under RedHat 5.2 (apollo). Any suggestions on how to get it to work under a Mandrake installation. If you can switch the modem to non-PnP mode it'll be alot easier. Is that possible? If you can't, you'll first need to grab a dump of the available PnP devices: pnpdump ~/isapnp.conf Then edit the file, uncommenting the information that is correct for the modem. Make sure you uncomment the (ACT Y) lines also. See if the configuration works: isapnp ~/isapnp.conf If everything looks good (no errors), copy the file to /etc/isapnp.conf. The bootup scripts should see the file and do the configuration auto-magically when you boot. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Linux at ZDU/ZDNET
Sam Bonham wrote: SOFTWARE: Red Hat Linux v 5.2 (or later ) Korn Shell What sort of twisted freak would teach the Korn shell instead of Linux's default Bash shell?? Why do I get the feeling that the Korn shell is being taught so these students think they're getting a real Unix environment with that Microsoft Unix-On-NT product?? :) -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] mouse problems
PJ : Biztech wrote: Problem: need to run 'mouseconfig --kickstart' everytime before I start 'startx' to get my mouse to work. When I run the normal 'mouseconfig' and select my mouse that never seems to work. only the kickstart suboption. If I close kde and 'startx' again the mouse will not move. Same thing plagued me with linux 5.0. Any suggestions??? system: p233 mmx 128 ram ide cdrom 2 ide 3.2gig hd 2 button serial microsoft mouse v.2.1a I hope this helps. That's really odd. But here's a couple things to check: First, check /etc/X11/XF86Config. In that file you'll find a section labeled Pointer. Check to see that the Device line in that sections reads "/dev/mouse". Next, check /dev/mouse to make sure it points to the correct serial port (ls -l /dev/mouse). Finally, check to see if gpm is running. If it is, turn it off with /etc/rc.d/init.d/gpm stop and try starting X again. If it works this time (and you don't feel like you need mouse support at the console), run ntsysv and turn off gpm at boottime. One other file you can check is /etc/sysconfig/mouse. See if there's anything odd in that file. Probably not, but it's worth checking. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
