[newbie] IP Aliasing

1999-10-02 Thread Eric Solberg

Mandrake 6.1

I've added an IP alias using linuxconf-Networking-Server Tasks-IP aliases
for virtual hosts.  I see that it has added the file
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0:0 and this script contains the
option ONBOOT=yes along with the ip address, netmask, etc.  Also, I have
made sure that IP aliasing is compiled into my kernel.

The address isn't getting configured in the boot (I can't ping it).
However, if I manually ifconfig eth0:0 n.n.n.n it works fine.  Arent the
sysconfig scripts supposed to do this for me?  Do I need to configure this
in rc.local?  Do I need to set up any static routes for the aliases?  In the
IP Aliasing mini-Howto it shows setting up static routes but the syntax
shown is incorrect.

Thanks to this list for all the help you've been giving me...
Eric Solberg



[newbie] MVP3 chipset

1999-10-02 Thread Dennis Bloodnok (Major.Retd)

I'm using a new TMC Socket 7 board with the above chipset. I was trying to
follow a string and saw a reference to BIOS problems with this chipset.

Could someone please point me at site where I can find further info

Thanks

John the Nadger

www.nadger.co.uk




Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)

1999-10-02 Thread Jeanette Russo

Alan Shoemaker wrote:
 
 Steve Philp wrote:
 
  Alan Shoemaker wrote:
  
   Axalon Bloodstone wrote:
   
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
   
 Axalon Bloodstone wrote:
 
  On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eosnet Team wrote:
 
   http://www.netscape.com/download/selectlanguage_1_702_411.html
  
  
   Here is a link to the latest version of netscape. (maybe more stable?)
  
 
  I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody
  remebers the segfault on link insertion right?)
 
 
  --
  MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
  --Axalon
   --Axalon

 EXCUSE ME!!  That statement really puts me off!  4.61 is what is in
 Mandrake's updates for 6.0!!??  It was recommended in this forum as an
 acceptable fix for the problems associated with 4.5.  Now you say this
 new (4.7) version is just as bad as the fix we had for the Mandrake 6.0
 distribution (which I still am using).  Well, what's that mean,
 EXACTLY!!??  If 4.7 is just as bad as 4.61 then upgrading to it
 shouldn't be any more of a problem than continuing to use 4.61, or
 should it??!!  Sheeesh

 Alan
   
Your excused, I do not thing you've been following the netscape saga
closely enough. They link the glibc version against 2.0, we supply 2.0.1
and 2.1.1, both of wich are incompatable with the binarys. The version of
netscape we currently ship is the libc5 with a really fancy loader.
I've installed both the glibc and libc5 versions here, libc5 fails to even
load because it doeesn't use the loader (exactly what one would expect),
the glibc (still linked against old glibc) acts just like the orignal 4.61
that was released, java works when it wants, you have to make sure to
click "ok" and not just hit enter on a passowrd dialog, inserting a link
in composer still causes an instant segfault.
So yes, my expectations of netscape held true, and i stand by my original
analysis of netscape.
   
  
   Axalonthat's probably so.  And I'm confused.  Is the glibc version I
   ordered on CD not going to work (I mean work like the 4.61 version from
   updates that I'm using now)?  From what you said above, the answer is
   no.  Ok, so is any version not massaged and customized by Mandrake going
   to work (especially one with 128 bit encryption) like the update's
   4.61?  I believe that the answer is no also (from your comments above).
   Is there any way I can get a working copy usable with Mandrake 6.0/6.1
   that includes 128 bit encryption (my on-line bank requires it).  Thanks,
   and I'm sorry for the overly-emphatic message (I wrote it in during the
   wrong moment in time). (-:
  
   Alan
 
  I seem to recall seeing a utility that will patch your existing Netscape
  to support 128bit encryption.  I don't recall the name (Fortify comes to
  mind, but I think that's an SSL util).  Searching Google or Freshmeat
  for "netscape encryption" may turn something up, though.
 
  --
  Steve Philp
 
 Steveyep, '"netscape encryption" fortify' on google found it.  I'm
 downloading now.  Thanks.
 
 Alan

Alan where did you find the fortify for the Linux version of Netscape I
only see the Windows and NT versions?   Can you send me a link for the
Linux one?
Thanks
Jeanette



Re: [newbie] IP Masquerading...?

1999-10-02 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Steve Philp wrote:

 Arcana wrote:
  
  OKAY, it works again.  I typed in the command to "turn on IP forwarding"
  (like, echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forwarding or something) and
  everything runs like magic again.  So, the million buck question is...
  
  ... how do I keep the option turned "on"?
 
 Sorry for the big snip at the top, but since you're really just looking
 for how to automatically set this at bootup at this point, I left that
 part in.
 
 You'll want to add the 'echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forwarding'
 command to the end of /etc/rc.d/rc.local.  It'll be run each time you
 boot.
 

Or.
change /etc/sysconfig/network,
FORWARD_IPV4=false
to
FORWARD_IPV4=true
 

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



Re: [newbie] Man I HATE this.

1999-10-02 Thread Phil Thornley

The Mandrake kernel is "optimized" to run on a pentium computer, but it
isn't required.  The install still took a bit of work since all the
hardware is 5 to 10 years old.  Maybe the only reason it worked is
because of my ignorance of Linux.  This was my first attempt at
installing Linux on anything.

--Phil

--- Mike Fieschko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  "Phil" == Phil Thornley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Phil Yep!  And it even runs KDE.
  You installed Mandrake on a 486?
 
 Well, am I then mistaken in my understanding that Mandrake requires a
 586 / Pentium or higher to run / install?
 
 If I am not mistaken, how did you get it installed and running on a
 486?
 
 -- 

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com



Re: [newbie] Man I HATE this.

1999-10-02 Thread Phil Thornley

I'm running Mandrake 6.0

--Phil

--- Dan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mike Fieschko wrote:
 
  Well, am I then mistaken in my understanding that Mandrake requires
 a
  586 / Pentium or higher to run / install?
 
   Mandrake 5.3 doesn't... g
 
 --
 Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste
 good
 with ketchup.
 

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com



[newbie] (no subject)

1999-10-02 Thread Eddie Head

newbie remove



Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeat your own risk)

1999-10-02 Thread David P. Greenberg

On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
 bay56 wrote:
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeat
  your own risk)
  
I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody
remebers the segfault on link insertion right?)
--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon
 --Axalon
  
   EXCUSE ME!!  That statement really puts me off!  4.61 is what is in
   Mandrake's updates for 6.0!!??  It was recommended in this forum as an
   acceptable fix for the problems associated with 4.5.  Now you say this
   new (4.7) version is just as bad as the fix we had for the Mandrake 6.0
   distribution (which I still am using).  Well, what's that mean,
   EXACTLY!!??  If 4.7 is just as bad as 4.61 then upgrading to it
   shouldn't be any more of a problem than continuing to use 4.61, or
   should it??!!  Sheeesh
  
  Would this be the same software that Mandrake hangs the entire readability
  of the docs on? ;-)
  
  Remember that docs are more than anything else read by newbies (excuse the
  obvious [they don't read docs] remarks about newbies for a moment!)
  
  Sheeesh!!! is about right!
  
  Regards,
  Ian
  
 
 Iantake it easy.  No, the default for the help files is a form of
 KFM not Netscape.  Axalon, although habitually a bit terse is usually a
 big help to just about everyone. (-:
 
 Alan

--So perhaps all this would explain why the Mandrake update doesn't work
for Netscape!

David P. Greenberg
Bitco Electronics
"In Service to the Recording Industry"
*Confirmed Linux Newbie*
**Never use a big word when
substituting a diminutive one would
suffice.**



Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)

1999-10-02 Thread David P. Greenberg

On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, Steve Philp wrote:
 Alan Shoemaker wrote:
  
  Axalon Bloodstone wrote:
  
   On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
  
Axalon Bloodstone wrote:

 On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Eosnet Team wrote:

  http://www.netscape.com/download/selectlanguage_1_702_411.html
 
 
  Here is a link to the latest version of netscape. (maybe more stable?)
 

 I wouldn't recommend it, it's just as broken as the 4.61. (everybody
 remebers the segfault on link insertion right?)
snip-o-mainia

--Just as an aside, I've found that Navigator alone, without getting the
whole Communicator seems to work OK. I've had no freeze ups with it, and I
actually am using it quite a bit. 

David P. Greenberg
Bitco Electronics
"In Service to the Recording Industry"
*Confirmed Linux Newbie*
**Never use a big word when
substituting a diminutive one would
suffice.**



Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)

1999-10-02 Thread Rick Murphy


 
 Alan where did you find the fortify for the Linux version of Netscape I
 only see the Windows and NT versions?   Can you send me a link for the
 Linux one?
 Thanks
 Jeanette

please post to our board

Rick "Mulerider" Murphy

-- 
"I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB



Re: [newbie] Stopping auto-boot to KDE?

1999-10-02 Thread David P. Greenberg

On Sat, 02 Oct 1999, Valheru wrote:
 Hello all,
 I am getting a font error when booting into KDE which is set for auto-load. How
 can I stop this? All my monitor does is reset itself.  Is there a command once
 I'm at the login: screen to stop the auto-load? I have about 3 seconds before
 KDE begins to load. BTW, Yes I've searched HOW-TO's on this with no luck. :(
 Thanks,
 Valheru

--OOH! OOH! One _I_ can answer. At lilo boot type linux 3.

David P. Greenberg
Bitco Electronics
"In Service to the Recording Industry"
*Confirmed Linux Newbie*
**Never use a big word when
substituting a diminutive one would
suffice.**



RE: [newbie] Re:

1999-10-02 Thread Paul Hoy

David ...

:)

Cheers!




On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, PaulHoy wrote:
   we are all "genious" in our own way :)...
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David P. Greenberg
  Sent: October 1, 1999 6:55 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [newbie] Re:
 
 
 --Hi paul. Just noticed that little fox pass m'damn self.
 
 David P. Greenberg
 Bitco Electronics
 "In Service to the Recording Industry"
 *Confirmed Linux Newbie*
 **Never use a big word when
 substituting a diminutive one would
 suffice.**



Re: [newbie] Default lilo boot

1999-10-02 Thread Steve Philp

Eric Solberg wrote:
 
 Here's another dumb one.. ugh
 
 I've compiled a new kernel and want it to boot by default.  I entered this
 as the first entry in /etc/lilo.conf (the name is linux2), but it still
 boots the one named 'linux' by default.  I even went in through linuxconf
 and made sure this one was set to the default kernel and it is.  If I type
 linux2 at the lilo prompt my kernel boots, but I can't get it to boot by
 default.

Did you rerun /sbin/lilo after changing /etc/lilo.conf?  Sounds like
that's all that's missing.

-- 
Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack 
Network Administratorfor smart people..."
Advance Packaging Corporation   --Arsenio Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



[newbie] Armed Linux

1999-10-02 Thread Joe Brault

Has anyone heard of this version of linux before?  If anyone has used it...
what do ya think?  I'm interesed in trying it out on my laptop, but  i'm
not sure if I want to risk it or not...


Joe :)

[DEFAULT]
BASEURL=http://www.download.com/pc/software/0,332,0-49715-g,1000.html?st.dl.cat355.hl.g49715

[InternetShortcut]
URL=http://www.download.com/pc/software/0,332,0-49715-g,1000.html?st.dl.cat355.hl.g49715
Modified=400799E8FF0CBF0193






[newbie] Star Office

1999-10-02 Thread Sean King

I see many people writing the listserve about star office and I was
wondering if any of you got it work for a user other than root.  I am
have problems doing so.  If you could please tell me what you did to get
this working.  

Sean



[newbie] diskdruid

1999-10-02 Thread Ida or Roly

I have 2 hard drive: one for window and a blank one for linux.
The blank one is in slave mode and is empty.   I want to load
linux on this slave drive.  I have made a bootable disquette and
when i try to partition my disk i cannot do anything.   It always
try to create partition on my window disk.   On the display i get:

mount pointdevice   request  actual type
  hda1 2437 2437  win98
fat32
  hdb1 3079 3079  win98
fat32

drive summaryc/h/stotal   used   free
hda  620/128/63   2441  2437  4m
hdb  782/128/63   3079  3079  0m

I've try to add/edit the partition on my hdb drive to no avail.
it always create it on hda1.What i'm i doing wrong?Can
you help?   Thanks for your time.



Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyourown risk)

1999-10-02 Thread David P. Greenberg

Hi. Ax (love that name!) I believe so. It's the one that came with my
Mandrake 6.0, hot off the press in may of this year.
David P. Greenberg
Bitco Electronics
"In Service to the Recording Industry"
**The falcon has heard the falconer**
-Original Message-
From: Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc)
(upgradeatyourown risk)snip
You are useing which version exactly? (the one in the topic i assume?)





Re: [newbie] Ears don't work

1999-10-02 Thread John Aldrich

On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 
 Quit ragging on AMD/Cyrix, it this does happen on intel systems, the
 very first report as a matter of fact  It's just most of those boards 
 died in the initial mass of celeron overclockings. And the rest are
 mainly "screaming gamer rigs". The key point is the bios, and how it's
 implements the atx shutdown. it's not like it's the first time oems have
 tweaked hardware..

T'wasn't "ragging on AMD/Cyrix." I was "ragging on" the
person/persons responsible for the *apparently* buggy atx APM drivers.
:-)
The implication *I* got from you, Axalon, was that it was a driver
problem, not that it was a BIOS problem.  Are you now stating that
it's a BIOS problem and not an APM driver problem???

I can understand why it would happen to O/C'ed systems, but other
than *intentionally* destabilized (overclocked) systems, have there
been any reports of this happening on an Intel chipset or processor?
Just wondering why it appears to be affecting PRIMARILY non-Intel
chpsets and processors? (NOTE: I *prefer* non-intel processors!!!)
John



RE: [newbie] Re:

1999-10-02 Thread John Aldrich

On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, PaulHoy wrote:
   we are all "genious" in our own way :)...
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David P. Greenberg
  Sent: October 1, 1999 6:55 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [newbie] Re:
 
 
 --Hi paul. Just noticed that little fox pass m'damn self.
 
Or did you intentionally mis-spell it to poke fun at yourself?? :-)
John



Re: [newbie] UDMA don't work in 6.1 with Ali Chipset

1999-10-02 Thread John Aldrich

On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 
 Now feeling officially discouraged! Starting to wonder if I ought to come
 back later when it's all a bit more "machine that I can afford" friendly?
 I dunno - I really don't shrug OK, it's not  linux flaw per se, but it's
 starting to stack it all up a bit!
 
My suggestion: Try an Intel chipset motherboard. It's *MY* *PERSONAL*
* BELIEF* that this can be tracked down to a "prejudice" towards
Intel-based systems, whether that's due to a concious decision or
an unconscious preference, or simply lack of information on non-intel
chipsets/processors I don't know. There are some fairly inexpensive
Intel-based systems (PII can be had for under $150 for motherboard
and processor, if you know where to look!) so it's not significantly
more expensive for an Intel-only system.
Take a look at www.hitechcafe.com for inexpensive second-tier
hardware (second-tier meaning PII, etc.)
John



Re: [newbie] diskdruid

1999-10-02 Thread Frederic PLE

I had the same problem !

Disk Druid absolutely want to install the / partition on the primary HD :(
The only way to make the / partition is to use fdisk instead of disk druid
during the installation processus.

Le Sat, 02 Oct 1999, vous avez écrit :
 I have 2 hard drive: one for window and a blank one for linux.
 The blank one is in slave mode and is empty.   I want to load
 linux on this slave drive.  I have made a bootable disquette and
 when i try to partition my disk i cannot do anything.   It always
 try to create partition on my window disk.   On the display i get:
 
 mount pointdevice   request  actual type
   hda1 2437 2437  win98
 fat32
   hdb1 3079 3079  win98
 fat32
 
 drive summaryc/h/stotal   used   free
 hda  620/128/63   2441  2437  4m
 hdb  782/128/63   3079  3079  0m
 
 I've try to add/edit the partition on my hdb drive to no avail.
 it always create it on hda1.What i'm i doing wrong?Can
 you help?   Thanks for your time.
--

--
  Frederic PLE

  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--



Re: [newbie] MVP3 chipset

1999-10-02 Thread John Aldrich

On Sat, 02 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 I'm using a new TMC Socket 7 board with the above chipset. I was trying to
 follow a string and saw a reference to BIOS problems with this chipset.
 
 Could someone please point me at site where I can find further info
 
The problem is the Auto-shutdown script which ships with Mandrake
(and RedHat.) It gives you a GPF at shutdown instead of powering
down. There's a simple fix to this. Just go to the Mandrake website
(www.linux-mandrake.com) and go to the 'Mailing lists' link, and from
there to the Mailing LIst archives and search for GPF. 
It's nothing major, just that it won't auto-power down for you.
John



Re: [newbie] VoodooII Banshee

1999-10-02 Thread John Aldrich

On Sat, 02 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 %_hello,
 i am new to Mandrake, and i was wondering if anyone knew where i could get 
drivers for the voodooII banshee.
 thanks,
 chris cook
 


Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Description: 

First, please disable HTML posting in your Outlook Express 5.0. It's
not appreciated here on this list.
Second, go to http://developer.soundblaster.com/linux/ and download
the drivers from there.
John



Re: [newbie] Staroffice Install... again

1999-10-02 Thread John Aldrich

On Sat, 02 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 I know this topic was recently covered here, and I have read all of the
 posts, but I am still baffled by this instalation process... I have the
 Staroffice tar archive in my /home/joe directory (my user directory) and do
 not know how to untar it and continue on... do IHave to use 
 
   tar x k /home/joe/Staroffice
 
 Or is there another command used to untar this... After I untar it, I
 understand that I should use thesetup file to activate the setup process.
 Is there any special way I should do this? or is this as simple as putting
 in the filename.  Thanks in advance for your help!
 
Well, it should work as you list. If you don't currently have a Star
Office distro, I'm not sure why you'd want to use the "k" option.
You'll probably need to use the "f" option to tell it you're wanting
to untar a file. The "v" (verbose) option is also kinda nice. So, the
syntax would be "tar xvf /home/john/so51a_lnx_01.tar" and then go
into the "so51inst" directory that it creates (actually, probably
better to run the "tar" process from a "junk" directory you can wipe
out afterwards...) and type "./setup" and go through the install
process telling it where you want to install to, etc.
John



Re: [newbie] Default lilo boot

1999-10-02 Thread Eric Solberg


That did it.  Thanks for all the tips.  Hope to return the favor some day.

Eric Solberg


  Here's another dumb one.. ugh
 
  I've compiled a new kernel and want it to boot by default.  I entered
this
  as the first entry in /etc/lilo.conf (the name is linux2), but it still
  boots the one named 'linux' by default.  I even went in through
linuxconf
  and made sure this one was set to the default kernel and it is.  If I
type
  linux2 at the lilo prompt my kernel boots, but I can't get it to boot by
  default.

 Did you rerun /sbin/lilo after changing /etc/lilo.conf?  Sounds like
 that's all that's missing.

 --
 Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack
 Network Administratorfor smart people..."
 Advance Packaging Corporation   --Arsenio Hall
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] Ears don't work

1999-10-02 Thread Axalon Bloodstone

On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, John Aldrich wrote:

 On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote:
  
  Quit ragging on AMD/Cyrix, it this does happen on intel systems, the
  very first report as a matter of fact  It's just most of those boards 
  died in the initial mass of celeron overclockings. And the rest are
  mainly "screaming gamer rigs". The key point is the bios, and how it's
  implements the atx shutdown. it's not like it's the first time oems have
  tweaked hardware..
 
 T'wasn't "ragging on AMD/Cyrix." I was "ragging on" the
 person/persons responsible for the *apparently* buggy atx APM drivers.
 :-)
 The implication *I* got from you, Axalon, was that it was a driver
 problem, not that it was a BIOS problem.  Are you now stating that
 it's a BIOS problem and not an APM driver problem???

Bios apm implementation, and what the driver expects. (my board in
particular doesn't function correctly in windows either)
 
 I can understand why it would happen to O/C'ed systems, but other
 than *intentionally* destabilized (overclocked) systems, have there
 been any reports of this happening on an Intel chipset or processor?
 Just wondering why it appears to be affecting PRIMARILY non-Intel
 chpsets and processors? (NOTE: I *prefer* non-intel processors!!!)
   John

I didn't say the board as overclocked, i said most of those systems died 

Yes it was a slot 1 celeron or p2 i forget which, i'm sure it was a slot 1
with award bios though

--
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon



Re: [newbie] UDMA don't work in 6.1 with Ali Chipset

1999-10-02 Thread tommiy

To get UDMA working you need to patch the kernel. I've been running the
patches on an ASUS board for over 6 months with no problems. The patches
should be folded into 2.4 hopefully. Get them at your local kernel.org
mirror under 

kernel/people/hedrick

Grab those specific for your kernel that you are running. Here they work
fine.

bay56 wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 5:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] UDMA don't work in 6.1 with Ali Chipset
 
  Ianoh come on!  There's no reason to get this morose over a problem
  that has a simple workaround.  It was just the removal of a -p option
  from one init file that disabled auto-shutdown that solved the problem
  being discussed, wasn't it?  That seems a paltry item to be so upset
  over.  As I said before -- sheesh!!!
 
 Well if that were the way of it I would agree, but this is not how it
 happened - I tried the fix (by the letter) and it caused it to fail to get
 that far. So no, it did not solve it as such. It may be paltry in your view,
 but it is significant enough to prevent the overall machine from working in
 it's intended manner.
 
 I have learned that if you have a TMC TI5VG+ motherboard with it's MVP3,
 with an AMD K6-2 CPU then you may expect to have some difficulties which
 would prevent linux from running properly. Not many can afford to go out and
 replace motherboard, cpu, videocard, soundcard, and modem, maybe the mouse,
 and possibly the keyboard and monitor too, purely to run linux - especially
 when all of those are average modern day contemporary components - it adds a
 hidden cost to linux, and tends to head it towards eliteist. There is
 nothing particularly wrong in that, but it may not have the kind of wider
 appeal the OS may really deserve. It may be quite able, and it may require
 quite a bit of effort, but it's not reasonable to then suggest an owner
 might like to start by trashing an entire system. (A system which lets face
 it can work if the correct functions are within the cabability of a given
 OS.) This is something which could do with pointing up more strongly that it
 currently is.
 
 So, as a practical approach I will come back to linux either when it can
 support the hardware I have, or when I can afford to build (and want to own)
 the kind of all intel machine it seems linux would be happier with. But
 that's just a practical approach for a given set of circumstances. I can see
 no other ways forward - that is just practical - do you really see it as
 morose? Disappointed perhaps.
 
 Regards,
 Ian
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.zap.to/atelier
 Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/



[newbie] lilo.conf

1999-10-02 Thread Ken Wilson

What purpose does the command 'compact' serve in 'lilo.conf'?

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a nonworking program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')



Re: [newbie] Star Office

1999-10-02 Thread Lindsay Steele

On Sun, 03 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 I see many people writing the listserve about star office and I was
 wondering if any of you got it work for a user other than root.  I am
 have problems doing so.  If you could please tell me what you did to get
 this working.  

  Star office 5.1 works fine for me .. to get it working as a user you just
install it as that user.


  Seeya,

Lindsay



Re: [newbie] I found a link to 4.7 for linux 2.0 (glibc) (upgradeatyour own risk)

1999-10-02 Thread Jeanette Russo

A 
 
  Alan where did you find the fortify for the Linux version of Netscape I
  only see the Windows and NT versions?   Can you send me a link for the
  Linux one?
  Thanks
  Jeanette
 
 JeanetteI downloaded from this site:
 
 http://www.fortify.net/
 
 the following version (I've not yet had the time to try it):
 
   Unix
   v1.4.4
  (Browsers
up to
   v4.61)
 
  
   
Thanks Alan I am going to give it a try because I have to boot to
Windows to access my Online Bank.
Jeanette
click here
 
 Alan



Re: [newbie] Stopping auto-boot to KDE?

1999-10-02 Thread Alex V Flinsch

On Sat, 02 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 On Sat, 02 Oct 1999, you wrote:
  Hello all,
  I am getting a font error when booting into KDE which is set for auto-load. How
  can I stop this? All my monitor does is reset itself.  Is there a command once
  I'm at the login: screen to stop the auto-load? I have about 3 seconds before
  KDE begins to load. BTW, Yes I've searched HOW-TO's on this with no luck. :(
  Thanks,
  Valheru
 
 At the LILO prompt, type "linux 3" and that should do it. NOTE: This
 *MUST* be done at the LILO prompt, NOT at the boot-up screen! This
 will put you in console mode, rather than in X-windows, and
 hopefully, you can figure out what needs to be fixed while in console
 mode!

That works for a single time. For a more permanant fix edit the line in
/etc/inittab 
from id:5:initdefault:  
to id:3:initdefault:  

or

run linuxconf
click the boot
click the mode tab
click "default boot mode" button
click "text mode  network"
click accept and quit then activate the changes when you exit linuxconf
(personally I think that it is easier to just edit the /etc/inittab file)


--
Alex



Re: [newbie] MVP3 chipset

1999-10-02 Thread Dennis Bloodnok (Major.Retd)

Thanks John. I've had a good read. As I'm running that board in an AT case
it really isn't a problem at this time.
- Original Message -
From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] MVP3 chipset


 On Sat, 02 Oct 1999, you wrote:
  I'm using a new TMC Socket 7 board with the above chipset. I was trying
to
  follow a string and saw a reference to BIOS problems with this chipset.
 
  Could someone please point me at site where I can find further info
 
 The problem is the Auto-shutdown script which ships with Mandrake
 (and RedHat.) It gives you a GPF at shutdown instead of powering
 down. There's a simple fix to this. Just go to the Mandrake website
 (www.linux-mandrake.com) and go to the 'Mailing lists' link, and from
 there to the Mailing LIst archives and search for GPF.
 It's nothing major, just that it won't auto-power down for you.
 John




[newbie] Guil-config

1999-10-02 Thread Rheda Barretina

Hi...

I have recently downloaded the gIDE tarball, and I

can't get it to "./configure" correctly, because
it cannot find guile-config to check out the guile

version. I do have the Guile rpm installed (ver
1.3.??), but it doesn't detect it.
I also tried to "find -name *guile-config*" in the

whole /usr dir, in case it wasn't in my PATH, but
it looks like I don't have guile-config...

Shall I install guile-devel??

Thank you!

Rheda.



Re: [newbie] lilo.conf

1999-10-02 Thread Steve Philp

Ken Wilson wrote:
 
 What purpose does the command 'compact' serve in 'lilo.conf'?

man lilo.conf gives:

   compact
  Tries to merge read requests for  adjacent  sectors
  into   a  single  read  request.  This  drastically
  reduces load time and keeps the map smaller.  Using
  `compact'  is  especially  recommended when booting
  from a floppy
disk.   

-- 
Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack 
Network Administratorfor smart people..."
Advance Packaging Corporation   --Arsenio Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] UDMA don't work in 6.1 with Ali Chipset

1999-10-02 Thread Jens Smed

tommiy wrote:
 
 To get UDMA working you need to patch the kernel. I've been running the
 patches on an ASUS board for over 6 months with no problems. The patches
 should be folded into 2.4 hopefully. Get them at your local kernel.org
 mirror under
 
 kernel/people/hedrick
 
Thank for the advice! In the Linux Mandrake 6.0 distribution I also got
the UDMA to work fine on my ASUS board. With the new MAndrake 6.1
distribution this particular kernel module is no longer available in the
kernel source and the kernel 2.2.13 is apperently not a standard version
so I haven't succeed in finding a pathc yet.

 Grab those specific for your kernel that you are running. Here they work
 fine.
 
 bay56 wrote:
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 5:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] UDMA don't work in 6.1 with Ali Chipset
 
   Ianoh come on!  There's no reason to get this morose over a problem
   that has a simple workaround.  It was just the removal of a -p option
   from one init file that disabled auto-shutdown that solved the problem
   being discussed, wasn't it?  That seems a paltry item to be so upset
   over.  As I said before -- sheesh!!!
 
  Well if that were the way of it I would agree, but this is not how it
  happened - I tried the fix (by the letter) and it caused it to fail to get
  that far. So no, it did not solve it as such. It may be paltry in your view,
  but it is significant enough to prevent the overall machine from working in
  it's intended manner.
 
  I have learned that if you have a TMC TI5VG+ motherboard with it's MVP3,
  with an AMD K6-2 CPU then you may expect to have some difficulties which
  would prevent linux from running properly. Not many can afford to go out and
  replace motherboard, cpu, videocard, soundcard, and modem, maybe the mouse,
  and possibly the keyboard and monitor too, purely to run linux - especially
  when all of those are average modern day contemporary components - it adds a
  hidden cost to linux, and tends to head it towards eliteist. There is
  nothing particularly wrong in that, but it may not have the kind of wider
  appeal the OS may really deserve. It may be quite able, and it may require
  quite a bit of effort, but it's not reasonable to then suggest an owner
  might like to start by trashing an entire system. (A system which lets face
  it can work if the correct functions are within the cabability of a given
  OS.) This is something which could do with pointing up more strongly that it
  currently is.
 
  So, as a practical approach I will come back to linux either when it can
  support the hardware I have, or when I can afford to build (and want to own)
  the kind of all intel machine it seems linux would be happier with. But
  that's just a practical approach for a given set of circumstances. I can see
  no other ways forward - that is just practical - do you really see it as
  morose? Disappointed perhaps.
 
  Regards,
  Ian
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.zap.to/atelier
  Or when that server is down go direct to http://www.btinternet.com/~bay56/



[newbie] fdisk

1999-10-02 Thread Ida or Roly

i have an empty disk drive that i want to partition so i can
load unix.   What are the fdisk command i should use to
create the needed directory?   Which directory (partition)
should i create?  Thanks for your time.



Re: [newbie] Guil-config

1999-10-02 Thread Steve Philp

Rheda Barretina wrote:
 
 Hi...
 
 I have recently downloaded the gIDE tarball, and I
 
 can't get it to "./configure" correctly, because
 it cannot find guile-config to check out the guile
 
 version. I do have the Guile rpm installed (ver
 1.3.??), but it doesn't detect it.
 I also tried to "find -name *guile-config*" in the
 
 whole /usr dir, in case it wasn't in my PATH, but
 it looks like I don't have guile-config...
 
 Shall I install guile-devel??

Yup, guile-config is in the guile-devel package (you can check using rpm
-qpl guile-devel).

-- 
Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack 
Network Administratorfor smart people..."
Advance Packaging Corporation   --Arsenio Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] fdisk

1999-10-02 Thread Steve Philp

Ida or Roly wrote:
 
 i have an empty disk drive that i want to partition so i can
 load unix.   What are the fdisk command i should use to
 create the needed directory?   Which directory (partition)
 should i create?  Thanks for your time.

It sounds like you're wanting to create the partitions with the DOS
fdisk.  It's not recommended to do that.  Instead use the partitioning
tools provided by the installation routine for Mandrake.

At a minimum, you'll want to create two partitions.  First, a swap
partition.  The size of that partition will depend on the amount of RAM
you have in your computer and the kinds of programs you'll typically run
on the system.  Overall, I'd recommend 128M as a good compromise -- hard
drive space is pretty cheap these days.  Second, you'll need a root
partition that you'll install Linux into.  Make this as large as the
hard drive allows.

If you have a large hard drive, you may want to create another small
partition that you'll mount as /boot.  This partition holds you kernel
and boot information.  You'll want to limit this partition to around 10
or 15M, it's not likely you'll need more space than that.  This
partition is created because BIOSes have a problem pointing any further
than 1024 cylinders into a hard drive.  By creating this partition at
the beginning of the drive, you guarantee that you won't have problems
getting your Linux system to boot properly.

Hope this information helps.
-- 
Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack 
Network Administratorfor smart people..."
Advance Packaging Corporation   --Arsenio Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] Armed Linux

1999-10-02 Thread Richard Salts

Joe,

This 'Armed Linux' seems to be similiar to WinLinux 2000 in that it
installs in Microsoft Windows.  I've read the website documents and I would
give it a try myself but I don't have the disk space to do it.  Why not
give it a whirl yourself and tell us what happens.  Have you read the
install docs?  They tell you that you have to have Windows running in 'safe
mode' to use Armed Linux properly.

Give it a shot and see what happens.

Richard 





At 02:07 PM 10/2/99 -0500, Joe Brault wrote:
Has anyone heard of this version of linux before?  If anyone has used it...
what do ya think?  I'm interesed in trying it out on my laptop, but  i'm
not sure if I want to risk it or not...


Joe :)
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Re: [newbie] Guil-config

1999-10-02 Thread John Aldrich

On Sat, 02 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 Hi...
 
 I have recently downloaded the gIDE tarball, and I
 
 can't get it to "./configure" correctly, because
 it cannot find guile-config to check out the guile
 
 version. I do have the Guile rpm installed (ver
 1.3.??), but it doesn't detect it.
 I also tried to "find -name *guile-config*" in the
 
 whole /usr dir, in case it wasn't in my PATH, but
 it looks like I don't have guile-config...
 
 Shall I install guile-devel??
 
Definitely. Any time you want to compile any programs and there's an
RPM with a "-devel" for the program you want to compile, you will
almost surely need to have that "devel" RPM. :-)
John



Re: [newbie] diskdruid

1999-10-02 Thread John Aldrich

On Sat, 02 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 I had the same problem !
 
 Disk Druid absolutely want to install the / partition on the primary HD :(
 The only way to make the / partition is to use fdisk instead of disk druid
 during the installation processus.
 
It also doesn't help that they're trying to install on a Windows
partition. :-) They'll need to change the type, or just wipe the
secondary hard drive completely, removing ALL partitions.



Re: [newbie] Stopping auto-boot to KDE?

1999-10-02 Thread John Aldrich

On Sat, 02 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 That works for a single time. For a more permanant fix edit the line in
 /etc/inittab 
 from id:5:initdefault:  
 to id:3:initdefault:  
 
Of course. :-) I was assuming (yeah... I know G) that they would
fix the problem and then go back to their X-windows auto-start. :-)
John



Re: [newbie] newbie-remove

1999-10-02 Thread Bob Jackson

Thomas  Peter wrote:
 
 Bob Jackson wrote:
 
  Steve Philp wrote:
  
   Larry Corrales wrote:
   
newbie-remove
  
   Wrong address.  Check the MandrakeSoft website for the correct address.
  
   Isn't it about time we put a footer on the bottom of list messages that
   includes removal instructions?
  
 
  It won't help. I get the KDE lists. The put the unsubscribe
  info in the footer on each message. The 'remove' traffic is
  about the same there as here. These people don't read the
  f*** manual or the list welcome message. They won't read
  the footer either. I've been trying to think of something
  that might help and have had no success.
 
  Bob J.
 
  Maybe they're just stupid. :-(
 
 Maybe they ,like myself, lost it from having to reinstall several times
 trying to make things work. Maybe you forget what it was like when you got
 started.

I'm not any better at saving things or remembering things than anybody
else. However, after sending several messages saying 'remove' to a
mailing list and not getting removed I'm smart enough to realize that
approach won't work. The I ask myself,"Hmmm, how did I get on this
list in the first place?" Ahhha, I went to linux-mandrake and
subscribed.
I go back to linux-mandrake -- lo and behold! Unsubscribe instructions
(for those who can read) right in front of me. Easy as pie. These
jerks
are to lazy to do anything except annoy others into doing their
legwork.

Bob J.




OT Re: [newbie] newbie-remove

1999-10-02 Thread Bob Jackson

Jaybird X wrote:
 
 John Aldrich wrote:
 
  On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote:
   
Maybe they're just stupid. :-(
  
   Maybe they ,like myself, lost it from having to reinstall several times
   trying to make things work. Maybe you forget what it was like when you got
   started.
  
  Geeever think maybe they're just too damn lazy to go visit the
  site where they first got the info on how to subscribe
 
 Or maybe they just panicked, you know, not thinkin' straight, like if
 you fell into a pool of sharks and just wanted to get out!


It's not that mean around here. We might take 
the occasional arm or leg, but it's very rare 
that you see anyone complely devoured. ;-)

Bob J.



Re: [newbie] newbie-remove

1999-10-02 Thread Bob Jackson

Ripcrd6 wrote:
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Jackson 
 Steve Philp wrote:
 
  Larry Corrales wrote:
  
   newbie-remove
 
  Wrong address.  Check the MandrakeSoft website for the correct address.
 
  Isn't it about time we put a footer on the bottom of list messages that
  includes removal instructions?
 
 
 It won't help. I get the KDE lists. The put the unsubscribe
 info in the footer on each message. The 'remove' traffic is
 about the same there as here. These people don't read the
 f*** manual or the list welcome message. They won't read
 the footer either. I've been trying to think of something
 that might help and have had no success.
 
 Maybe they're just stupid. :-(
 I've just started sending them all REAL simple unsub instructions.   Hope
 they understand those.

Let's hope it works. I'm thinking os a 10 page FAQ that
everybody could send to them. evil grin

Bob J.