Re: [newbie] Getting and installing packages

2002-03-15 Thread Paul

On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:20:59 -0800 rob wrote:

>Is there a semi-automated way to fetch packages?  I used to use SuSe
>Linux, and they had Yast which would go out and get the rpm's.  I'm told
>there is something similar in Mandrake, but I didn't find it after
>fooling around for an hour or so.  Thanks,  Rob.

It is called urpmi.
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[newbie] Getting and installing packages

2002-03-15 Thread rob

Please don't flame me, but I'm an old FreeBSD user who is trying out
Mandrake :)

Is there a semi-automated way to fetch packages?  I used to use SuSe
Linux, and they had Yast which would go out and get the rpm's.  I'm told
there is something similar in Mandrake, but I didn't find it after
fooling around for an hour or so.  Thanks,  Rob.



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Re: [newbie] What is ICE and DCOP?

2002-03-15 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Fri, 2002-03-15 at 11:21, Burrows, Scott wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> Newbie question here.  I have a MD8.1 system.
> 
> What are the following files in my home folder for?  If they are corrupted
> or deleted what happens to
> the system?
> 
> 1) ICEauthority
> 
> 2) DCOPserver_localhost.localdomain_0:
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Scott Burrows
Scott,

Truthfully, I'm not sure about ICE.  But DCOP is a process that allows
desktop application interoperability under KDE.  I run Enlightenment
with the KDE compatibility mode enabled and DCOP runs a symlink in my
home dir as well.  It allows cutting and pasting between apps, among
other things.

HTH,

LX


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Re: [newbie] Master & slave drives

2002-03-15 Thread shane

i can't speak for XP, but if you want to use lilo, the linux loader, 
generally you simply install.  i have install several 7.1 through 8.2 
installs for others on second disks with win95, win98 and win2k on the 
first.  you just follow the instructions and generally everything works 
fine.

the one time i have had it _not_ work was a 7.1 install with win95 on the 
other drive, and i thought i would check to see how the mandrake installer 
saw the win partitions.  oops, having linux rewrite your windows partitions 
is not to smart.  funny thing, while windows couldn't see the second 
partition, linux could so the data was saved.  they may have even fixed it, 
still don't click the windows partitions in the installer.  :-)

On Friday 15 March 2002 19:48, Joe Barron opened a hailing frequency and 
transmitted:

> I,m greener than all getout.But what I,d like to know is setting up
> bootmanager for XP on master Mandrake on slave ,what I,ve found are
> partitioning the same drive.

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[newbie] Master & slave drives

2002-03-15 Thread Joe Barron



I,m greener than all getout.But what I,d like to know is 
setting up bootmanager for XP on master Mandrake on slave ,what I,ve found are 
partitioning the same drive.


Re: [newbie] Missing Locate Command

2002-03-15 Thread Darwin Gottfried

On Friday 15 March 2002 20:25, you wrote:
> I currently have Mandrake 8.1 installed on 1 laptop and 1 desktop. In
> both cases, when I type locate somefile, i get bash: locate: command
> not found. This happens both as user and as root.
>
> If I do which locate I get which: no locate in (numerous paths given in
> parentheses).
>
> Is there such a thing as a linux system that does not have locate?
> Why would Mandrake not have a basic command like locate?

Sounds like you don't have the package slocate installed yet.  Slocate is a 
secure version of locate.

As root, urpmi slocate
once installed do (still as root) slocate -u -c or updatedb


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[newbie] Missing Locate Command

2002-03-15 Thread Bryan Tyson

I currently have Mandrake 8.1 installed on 1 laptop and 1 desktop. In 
both cases, when I type locate somefile, i get bash: locate: command 
not found. This happens both as user and as root.

If I do which locate I get which: no locate in (numerous paths given in 
parentheses).

Is there such a thing as a linux system that does not have locate?
Why would Mandrake not have a basic command like locate?

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Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all

2002-03-15 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On 15 Mar 2002 12:07:05 -0500, Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 22:30, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> 
> > I'm in Sydney, Australia [no Kangaroos here either, unless you travel a few
> > hundred kilometres inland, or visit a zoo :) ]. It's 14:30 and 23 degrees
> > Celsius (it's usually hotter, but we've had a lot of rain the past few
> > days).
> > 
> > -- 
> > Sridhar Dhanapalan
> > 
> >  "We like to think of ourselves as the Microsoft of the energy world"
> > -- Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron
> > 
> 
> Would a kangaroo make a good pet?  Just curious
> 
> ;)

I wouldn't think so, unless you have a HUGE backyard for it to jump around in :)

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Re: [newbie] mem opinion please.

2002-03-15 Thread Charlie

If your processor is capable of utilizing the DDR Ed it won't really matter 
how much SDRAM you stuff in the slots. It isn't a question of the amount of 
memory in place so much as a question of how it operates. The processor 
(Athlons, Durons) is able to access the data faster from DDR because data is 
read on every 'clock cycle'. "Rising and falling rather than rising only."

That said; an article some time back on AnandTech showed only roughly 3 to 7 
per cent speed increase in benchmarks. If you are using an older processor 
that isn't optimized for it you won't notice a difference anyway. AFAIK 
anything less than ~10% isn't detectable without instrumentation.

I'd still go DDR but I'd wait for "333MHz" rather than using what is 
available now. The price is at somewhat of a premium right now as well.

HTH
Charlie
___
On March 15, 2002 07:56 pm, Ed spake thusly:
 I do expectt the ddr to be faster meg for meg, but I was hopping for som 
 thoughts about how much more of sdr sdram would be required to equal the 
 speed gained, in higher or middle of theram curve machines. I would also 
 expect the differnce between 64 meg DDR and 90 megs sdr sdram to be about 
the 
 same, depending on the application
 
 On Friday 15 March 2002 18:01, you wrote:
 > No question but that DDR is the better solution for any 'performance box.'
 > Think it through; DDR = Dual Data Rate. SDRAM is slower.
 >
 > If you'd like to "prove it" to yourself follow the links under the CPU
 > heading at:  http://www.anandtech.com or http://www.tomshardware.com or
 > http://www.hardocp.com among others. They'll all have archives of reviews
 > of previous chip sets as well as the latest.
 >
 > HTH
 > Charlie
 > __
 > On March 15, 2002 02:44 pm, Ed spake thusly:
 >  I am building a box and the MOBO allows either ddr, or sdram. so in y'alls
 >  experiance, wheich would be faster, 256mg ddr, or 320 sdram
 
 



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Re: [newbie] partition

2002-03-15 Thread paolo brusasco

Arjan Petersen wrote:

> hello, ive got a question. I trying to use my windows-xp partitions. 
> I've mounted them and in root i can use them. But when i want to use 
> the partition in let's say user: arjan
> I get tthe error that i'm not able or i don't have the rights to use 
> the partition. How can i fix this?
>
> Another question, when i use realplayer in root i get the 
> errormessages that i can't play audio because the audiodevice is 
> already in use by another device.
>
> Please help me with these problems.
>
> arjan
>
>
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Hallo, it won't help you but however I send it.
I posted the same question some days ago and folks answered me:
NO, they think that write to ntfs in mandrake 8.1 is disabled for safety
YES, they think that you can write if you really want but you have to 
modify your kernel
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Re: [newbie] mem opinion please.

2002-03-15 Thread Nanook

Tom's article about DDR from February 2000:
http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/00q4/001030/index.html and a small 
tidbit for those of us that have trouble with all these blasted acronyms: 
http://www.acronymfinder.com.

Duckin' and runnin' away real fast!

Charlie
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On March 15, 2002 04:34 pm, Femme Fatale spake thusly:
 DDR *dedicated direct ram* IIRC is the acronym.  Says it all
 
 However, SDRam is poised to take over, and is speccing faster, IIRC.
 
 Don't take my word for it though.  See Tom's Hardware for a better idea.
 
 Femme
 
 ed tharp wrote:
 > 
 > I am building a box and the MOBO allows either ddr, or sdram. so in y'alls
 > experiance, wheich would be faster, 256mg ddr, or 320 sdram
 > 
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Re: [newbie]: help with EXT3 & other Terms?

2002-03-15 Thread FemmeFatale

I don't remember if I wrote back to tell you things worked out.

I basically did as Ed said, & tried to fiddle in the install with the
settings.  Seems to have helped.  That and the Nvidia drivers may have
helped too. Not sure.  But everything seems good again. :)

Thx Ed.

Femme

ed tharp wrote:
> 
> to avoid this problem, install as "expert" and check the video configuration
> durring install. what video card do you use? some cards are not supported in
> xfree4.0 and I would bet the "respawning to fast" is related to the video
> config setup. if you have the problem after you reinstall, then we can work
> thru it, but I bet if you get the video setup durring install you wont' have
> no problems. just remember to not install as "recommended" and do as "expert"
> and check the video config during install
> 
>



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Re: [newbie] mem opinion please.

2002-03-15 Thread FemmeFatale

DDR *dedicated direct ram* IIRC is the acronym.  Says it all

However, SDRam is poised to take over, and is speccing faster, IIRC.

Don't take my word for it though.  See Tom's Hardware for a better idea.

Femme

ed tharp wrote:
> 
> I am building a box and the MOBO allows either ddr, or sdram. so in y'alls
> experiance, wheich would be faster, 256mg ddr, or 320 sdram
> 
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Re: [newbie] 8.2 Release date

2002-03-15 Thread ai4a

tester wrote:
> 
> On Thursday 14 March 2002 10:29 pm, Aryan Ameri wrote:
> > Does Anyone know when will Mandrake Linux 8.2 Gold be officially released?
> > I am very eager to purchase it.
> 
> For most of you, pre-orders at www.mandrakestore.com are possible.  Also, if
> you decide to join Mandrake Club, you will likely find more of that
> information.
> 
> Civileme
> 
> And, of course, Mandrakestore has burning/printing capabilities so they don't
> have to wait a month for commercial CD pressing.
> 
>   
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How do I pre-order 8.2? I see nothing at www.mandrakestore.com about
8.2. I also see nothing at the Mandrake club site.
Thanks for the help
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RE: [newbie] Connection sharing reconfiguration.

2002-03-15 Thread Robin

I remember someone posted the same problem before. The problem has
something to do firewall script or something over writing the connection
sharing setting on startup. I cannot remember what the solution was. Try
search the mail archive for it.


Robin

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Wei Wang
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 6:51 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] Connection sharing reconfiguration.
> 
> 
> One Mandrake box and a windows box sharing one IP address. IP 
> masquarading was 
> set up via Mandrake control center Connection Sharing. 
> Everything works fine 
> except that everytime after Mandrake reboot, the 
> configuration of Conneciton 
> sharing has to be done again. Is there any way I could keep 
> the configuration?
> 
> Many thanks,
> Wei
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [newbie] Interrupts and being interrupted

2002-03-15 Thread Frans Ketelaars

On 15 Mar 2002 00:49:25 +1100
Brian Parish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have a small issue that may be interrupt related.  I have XMMS playing
> (always).  At a change of track, it will sometimes stop and issue a
> message telling me that the sound card is not available and that I
> should check that I have the correct plugin loaded. 

This may be related to 'extra features and configurability', see below, maybe 
you should use another plugin or configure it differently?

> Click OK and play
> again and I'm back in business.  This can happens every third track, or
> every third day depending on what mood it's in.

Interesting problem, is this the emergence of Artificial Inteligence ;)

> Now I have a couple of ideas on this.  Anyone care to comment?
> 
> 1. It only happens on change of track, so I guess XMMS does some
> release/acquire of the sound card at that point.
> 
> 2. cat /proc/interrupts shows:
> 
>  10:  83875  XT-PIC  usb-uhci, usb-uhci, ICE1712
> 
> i.e. my sound card (that's the ICE1712) is sharing interrupt 10 with the
> usb interfaces.
> 
> That's the only interrupt that is being shared.
> 
> Now I know interrupts can be shared, but I wouldn't think that it's a
> good thing for a sound card.
> 
> So:
> 
> 1. Any votes for or against the notion that this is likely to be the
> cause of XMMS's hiccups?
> 
> 2. How do I go about changing this?
> 
> USB is not in use on this machine, so just disabling that is an option. 
> That is, it's not in use under Linux because there seems to be no way I
> can get my scanner to work - not a SANE support device.  No matter. 
> There has to be some reason to have that dual boot XP parition there
> right?  In other words, I am happy to dispense with USB as far as the OS
> goes, but not disable it in the bios.

How about disabling it once in the BIOS for testing if it's indeed an IRQ
problem? I think it may be related to a soundserver you're running: artsd in
KDE or esd in Gnome.

> OTOH there are several interrupts free, so just moving either the USB or
> the sound card is probably the better option.

On my Asus P5A mainboard I can assign IRQ's for PCI slots in the BIOS, if you 
don't have that option try moving the soundcard to a different PCI slot. 

> One last point of info: This is a multi-channel sound card that requires
> ALSA 0.9 beta5 or greater to work - I'm using beta 10.  Forget about any
> configuration of this card in any of the GUI's.  They don't know about
> it.

You have an 'advanced' soundcard and are using the ALSA 0.9beta drivers. 
ALSA 0.9.x is part of the recent Linux 2.5.x development kernels :) Your card
and the advanced drivers you are using result in extra features and
configurability which is documented of course, I mean people are succesfully
working on the documentation, but it's far from complete, help appreciated...

Btw, there are more recent ALSA beta drivers.

> TIA
> Brian

Good luck!

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Re: [newbie] mem opinion please.

2002-03-15 Thread Nanook

No question but that DDR is the better solution for any 'performance box.' 
Think it through; DDR = Dual Data Rate. SDRAM is slower.

If you'd like to "prove it" to yourself follow the links under the CPU 
heading at:  http://www.anandtech.com or http://www.tomshardware.com or 
http://www.hardocp.com among others. They'll all have archives of reviews of 
previous chip sets as well as the latest.

HTH
Charlie
__
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 I am building a box and the MOBO allows either ddr, or sdram. so in y'alls 
 experiance, wheich would be faster, 256mg ddr, or 320 sdram
 
 



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Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problems

2002-03-15 Thread Dennis Myers

On Friday 15 March 2002 15:05, you wrote:
> Guilherme Cirne wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm having trouble getting LM 8.1 to connect to the internet through my
> > home LAN. My setup is as follows:
> >
> > - Machine sharing the internet connection: Win98 (running Wingate), ip
> > 192.168.0.2
> >
> > - Client: LM 8.1, setup through Mandrake Control Center with ip
> > 192.168.0.1, gateway 192.168.0.2, DNS 192.168.0.2. This is how it is
> > supposed to be done according to the Wingate manual.
> >
> > I can ping the Win98 box from LM and vice-versa. From the client machine
> > I can also ping any ip on the internet. But I can't ping hostnames (i.e.
> > ping www.linux-mandrake.com returns unknown host:
> > www.linux-mandrake.com). So I think it has something to do with DNS. But
> > what?
> >
> > My /etc/resolv.conf file has just one entry: nameserver 192.168.0.2
> >
> > Any help is appreciated.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> >  
> > -
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> I do not use windows except for trivial things but your setup is telling
> your Linux box that the windows PC is a DNS Server. If it doesn't
> fetch that information and pass it on to the Linux box then it will fail.
> There is no reason why you need to use your local PC as a DNS Server
> except for speed reasons. I doubt that  a win98 PC would be good for that.
> Your ISP will have DNS servers and I expect they will have supplied you
> with the IP addresses for them. Just tell your Linux PC one of them as
> the DNS Server to use and it should be fine.
> When you get into using Linux I think you will find it better to use the
> Linux PC as the gateway.
> hth
> norm
To add to the previous post and this one, I agree, it seems to work better to 
use the linux computer as the gateway.
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Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problems

2002-03-15 Thread Dennis Myers

On Friday 15 March 2002 12:33, you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm having trouble getting LM 8.1 to connect to the internet through my
> home LAN. My setup is as follows:
>
> - Machine sharing the internet connection: Win98 (running Wingate), ip
> 192.168.0.2
>
> - Client: LM 8.1, setup through Mandrake Control Center with ip
> 192.168.0.1, gateway 192.168.0.2, DNS 192.168.0.2. This is how it is
> supposed to be done according to the Wingate manual.
>
> I can ping the Win98 box from LM and vice-versa. From the client machine I
> can also ping any ip on the internet. But I can't ping hostnames (i.e. ping
> www.linux-mandrake.com returns unknown host: www.linux-mandrake.com). So I
> think it has something to do with DNS. But what?
>
> My /etc/resolv.conf file has just one entry: nameserver 192.168.0.2
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> TIA,
IIRC when I used wingate I had to set the client up to have the gateway as my 
192.168.0.1 machine which had the modem and then in the DNS IP addresses I 
put the same two IPs as the ISP gave me.  like:   207.217.123.80  and 
207.217.124.81  that is because the ISP is still the name server for you 
internet connection the other computer is just the gateway to the internet 
and may or maynot function as a DNS.  Anyway, give that a try and see what 
transpires.  HTH
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Re: [newbie] Intermittent Sound

2002-03-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich

Brendan Kosowski wrote:
> 
> Hi, I have just installed Mandrake 8.1 for Intel on my laptop and my sound
> is very intermittent. All sounds have dropouts.
> 
> I have a laptop with a Cirrus Logic CS4299 sound chip.
> 
> Can anyone help ?
> 

Well maybe.In KDE try this : K --> Multimedia --> Sound --> Sound Mixer.
Play a little with the sliders, especially the "PCM"-one and hear what
happens. If that doesn't help try to disable ALSA. Fixed it for me.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] An apology and a round of virtual beer, OT

2002-03-15 Thread FemmeFatale

um... good question?  in 'Doze, I use alt-130 for accent égue ;p

Try it?

Femme

Kaj Haulrich wrote:

> Au contraire, Femme Fatale ! - Excusez-moi ! - C'etait seulement une
> jugement male.:-;
> Oh shit, my french needs improvement too. BTW : how to type all those
> french accents (egu, grave, circonflexe etc.) in a text-only
> mail-program ???
> 
> Kaj Haulrich
> Denmark
> 
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[newbie] Xtart what bug civileme

2002-03-15 Thread Olly P

On Thursday 14 March 2002 17:08, Civileme typed:

> The safe way to start window managers from the console is probably
> Xtart.  There is a bug in the current one, and I am not sure
> Xtart-1.1 has made it to mirrors so download at
>
> http://www.civileme.net/Xtart-1.1-6mdk.i586.rpm
>
> Then install with rpm -Uvh Xtart-1.1-6mdk.i586.rpm
>
> Civileme
---
Friday 15 March 2002  --  01:23hrs cst 67degF cloudy on a new moon.

What bug Civileme? what problem does it cause?

I use that program all the time and have noticed nothing bad?
Xtart-1.0-4mdk.i586.rpm..rpm
thank you for it...


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Re: [newbie] Mandrake's financial situation

2002-03-15 Thread Norman

"Barran, Richard" wrote:

> Morning all,
>
> I've received a very interesting "Mandrake Community Newsletter" this
> morning. I'm including here the two most relevant paragraphs:
>
> "
> Even though all of us here at MandrakeSoft are excited about the
> upcoming release, we've also been distracted by financial concerns.
> Despite continuous good reviews in the press; despite having millions
> of users throughout the world; despite producing an award-winning Linux
> distribution that is a solid competitor to both UNIX and Window$, the
> Mandrake Linux distribution's short-term future is in jeopardy due to a
> simple factor: money.
>
> As a company, we make our revenue by selling packaged versions of the
> distribution and by delivering services such as consulting, training,
> etc. -- but our development costs and community-based services are not
> yet covered by income. It is estimated that we will "break even" by the
> end of 2002, but it is unlikely that MandrakeSoft can remain unchanged
> during these next few months without drastically cutting costs unless
> additional revenue is generated quickly.
> "
>
> The newsletter then goes on to urge people to sign up to Mandrake Club ASAP.
> I received a newsletter from the Club yesterday which also hinted at
> "financial troubles".
> I haven't seen this mentioned yet by anyone on either this list or on the
> expert list. Is this a bit of scaremongering or is Mandrake really in dire
> straits?
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard
>
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As a member of the club I receive a newsletter regularly. The last one
said in part  :


This time we aren't asking for sweat or blood - all it takes to assure the development 
of
Mandrake Linux in the future is
the equivalent of one or two cinema tickets a month in the form of the "Mandrake Club"
membership fee.

Explain to them that they will not only receive the pleasure of assuring the future of 
the
Mandrake Linux distribution, but
they will even receive some

 special "club privileges":


 - Club-only download of commercial applications.

 - A place in MandrakeSoft's "Hall of Fame".

 - Possibility to ask questions (and receive answers)  in "Ask Mandrake" series.

 - Direct trading of MandrakeSoft shares.

 - Special discounts on third party software  (coming soon).


There are millions of Mandrake Linux users out there, but "only" 2000 have joined the 
club so
far. You are one of these 2000
people, and nobody can

explain the reason why you did it better than you can.
=

I feel that I would have to pay much more by following the MS route. I believe I might 
easily
be forced
to pay out more and more as MS dictate rather than when I want or need to.
By supporting Mandrake I feel I am at least putting something back for all of the 
stuff that's
out there.
If they do fold it

[newbie] mem opinion please.

2002-03-15 Thread ed tharp

I am building a box and the MOBO allows either ddr, or sdram. so in y'alls 
experiance, wheich would be faster, 256mg ddr, or 320 sdram



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RE: [newbie] 8.2 Release date

2002-03-15 Thread Vogel, Andrew (VOGELAP)

Do you think 8.2 will allow my CD burner and ATAPI ZIP drive to work (which
they did under 8.0, but never have under 8.1)?

> -Original Message-
> From: tester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 4:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Aryan Ameri
> Subject: Re: [newbie] 8.2 Release date
> 
> 
> On Thursday 14 March 2002 10:29 pm, Aryan Ameri wrote:
> > Does Anyone know when will Mandrake Linux 8.2 Gold be officially 
> > released? I am very eager to purchase it.
> 
> 
> For most of you, pre-orders at www.mandrakestore.com are 
> possible.  Also, if 
> you decide to join Mandrake Club, you will likely find more of that 
> information.
> 
> Civileme
> 
> And, of course, Mandrakestore has burning/printing 
> capabilities so they don't 
> have to wait a month for commercial CD pressing.
> 
> 



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Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problems

2002-03-15 Thread Guilherme Cirne

I'm using the Home version of Wingate so I'm not really sure how to do that. 
But what I can tell you is that when I'm running Windows on the client 
machine (I have dual-boot system) I can access the internet normally. Also 
when I had LM 8.0 a few months back everything worked perfectly with this 
same setup.

On Friday 15 March 2002 04:08 pm, you wrote:
> Guilherme,
>
> Did you enable DNS forwarding in WinGate?
>
> Miark
>
> On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:33:51 -0300, Guilherme Cirne 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm having trouble getting LM 8.1 to connect to the internet through my
> > home LAN. My setup is as follows:
> >
> > - Machine sharing the internet connection: Win98 (running Wingate), ip
> > 192.168.0.2
> >
> > - Client: LM 8.1, setup through Mandrake Control Center with ip
> > 192.168.0.1, gateway 192.168.0.2, DNS 192.168.0.2. This is how it is
> > supposed to be done according to the Wingate manual.
> >
> > I can ping the Win98 box from LM and vice-versa. From the client machine
> > I can also ping any ip on the internet. But I can't ping hostnames (i.e.
> > ping www.linux-mandrake.com returns unknown host:
> > www.linux-mandrake.com). So I think it has something to do with DNS. But
> > what?
> >
> > My /etc/resolv.conf file has just one entry: nameserver 192.168.0.2
> >
> > Any help is appreciated.
> >
> > TIA,

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[newbie] Re: ARTS / Audio Codec97 / and VT8233 Audio Chip configuration

2002-03-15 Thread John Richard Smith

PS. Friday , 15.03.2002, GMT ,
upon first bootup to dektop,
to my suprise I find that the CD player is now working,
and not only that but putting up other programmes like
sound mixer does not hault it either as it used to when
ARTS was running things. Why this should be so today,
but not last night , I haven't a clue. Perhaps someone 
can suggest a reason.

Anyway thats the good news, the bad news is that 
I cannot play cashed(to hard drive) audio files in
X-CD-Roast, that is in the Roast's own audio player 
programme.
A configuration problem ?
Any suggestions would be welcome.
I cann't live without my Audio CD Writer in full working
order. Please help

John


On Thursday 14 March 2002 10:27 pm, you wrote:
> Where to begin,
>
> My KT7266 Pro2 DDR with raid  motherboard comes with a
> Via technologies VT8233 sound chip with AC (audio codec )97
> contoller.
>
> At first desktop the KDE jingle plays, for a short while,
> that is until any other audio programme is engaged,
> whereupon it drops out never seemingly to return.
> The CD player only works on first bootup after a period
> of computer rest. As soon as any audio programme
> is engaged it too,  fails.
>
> I have been advised that I need to disable ARTS, which
> I found you can do in control centre. I guess ARTS is a
> programme for connecting sound equipement with a
> sound driver ,  and I am guessing that AC97 (built into the
> sound chip) does much the same  thing , and that is
> why I am advised  to remove ARTS ?  yes/no
>
> Well I have done that and still nothing has really changed,
> I feel that there is more to configure. It would seem to me
> that I still need to configure something so that the sound driver
> and all the sound equipement are connected properly.
>
> In control center - Audio IO Slave ,
> I don't know whether to have
> an |  X  | in Determine device automatically,
> or remove the X and leave the default only
> setting /dev/cdrom, when surely the correct
> entry is /dev/hdc, if you are going to be specific.
> Unfortuneately deleting /dev/cdrom and typing
> /dev/hdc is replaced automatically with /dev/cdrom.
>
> Please can someone  help me.   thanks,
>
>
> John

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Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problems

2002-03-15 Thread Norman

Guilherme Cirne wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm having trouble getting LM 8.1 to connect to the internet through my home
> LAN. My setup is as follows:
>
> - Machine sharing the internet connection: Win98 (running Wingate), ip
> 192.168.0.2
>
> - Client: LM 8.1, setup through Mandrake Control Center with ip 192.168.0.1,
> gateway 192.168.0.2, DNS 192.168.0.2. This is how it is supposed to be done
> according to the Wingate manual.
>
> I can ping the Win98 box from LM and vice-versa. From the client machine I
> can also ping any ip on the internet. But I can't ping hostnames (i.e. ping
> www.linux-mandrake.com returns unknown host: www.linux-mandrake.com). So I
> think it has something to do with DNS. But what?
>
> My /etc/resolv.conf file has just one entry: nameserver 192.168.0.2
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> TIA,
>
>   
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I do not use windows except for trivial things but your setup is telling
your Linux box that the windows PC is a DNS Server. If it doesn't
fetch that information and pass it on to the Linux box then it will fail.
There is no reason why you need to use your local PC as a DNS Server
except for speed reasons. I doubt that  a win98 PC would be good for that.
Your ISP will have DNS servers and I expect they will have supplied you
with the IP addresses for them. Just tell your Linux PC one of them as
the DNS Server to use and it should be fine.
When you get into using Linux I think you will find it better to use the
Linux PC as the gateway.
hth
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Re: [newbie] 8.2 Release date

2002-03-15 Thread tester

On Thursday 14 March 2002 10:29 pm, Aryan Ameri wrote:
> Does Anyone know when will Mandrake Linux 8.2 Gold be officially released?
> I am very eager to purchase it.


For most of you, pre-orders at www.mandrakestore.com are possible.  Also, if 
you decide to join Mandrake Club, you will likely find more of that 
information.

Civileme

And, of course, Mandrakestore has burning/printing capabilities so they don't 
have to wait a month for commercial CD pressing.



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Re: [newbie] Interrupts and being interrupted

2002-03-15 Thread FemmeFatale

as an FYI, windows hasn't used the BIOSes PNP stuff for years, not since
w98.  NT, 2k, XP, etc won't look at it.  They ignore it.  So, in essence
its irrelevant.  :)

Same for IRQ's, unless its an ISA card.  If so, then yes windows will
look at it, determine if it HAS to obey the BIOS (i.e., you force the
IRQ via Bios), and if not will issue its own IRQ for the device.

*Shrugs* And ppl wonder why we hate M$.

Femme

Jussi Aalto wrote:
> 
> On Friday 15 March 2002 02:09, you wrote:
> >
> > That seemed the best way to go to me too.  But how are the interrupts
> > set?  Are you talking bios settings here?  I guess not as W$ would
> > inherit them too.  I have set this stuff in W$, but not in Linux.
> >
> > thanks again
> > Brian
> >
> 
> On my system the BIOS (Award) offers the possibility select whether there
> are PNP-OS'es installed or not and all IRQs can be set manually if
> needed. But since you have XP installed it may be better use the Plug 'n
> Pray method (I'm not familiar with Bills latest inventions so I can't
> tell what happens if XP can't get the PNP info from BIOS, probably it
> freaks out and will blow up, burn your computer, your house, all of the
> neighborhood, gas stations nearby explode, etc. etc. ).
>



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Re: Re[2]: [newbie] xfice

2002-03-15 Thread tester

On Thursday 14 March 2002 09:22 pm, Colin Jenkins wrote:
> Hello civileme,
>
> Friday, March 15, 2002, 8:56:19 AM, you wrote:
>
> c> Colin Jenkins wrote:
> >>It looks like I have really stuffed something up here.   (lm8.1)
> >>I followed some instructions I came across for booting up with Xfice
> >>(I was using kde).
> >>everything appeared to work ok, but when I next rebooted, I was no
> >>longer able to start kde or gnome.
> >>if I use startx kde -- :1 it still starts xfice.
> >>Where do I start looking to fix this?
>
> c> If you have 8.1 load Xtart and you have access from console to all wms
>
> c> Civileme
>
>

There is a new version which will run on 8.0 up at

http://www.civileme.net/Xtart-1.1-6mdk.i586.rpm

That is a direct download.

Civileme

>Thanks for the answer civileme, I will note that down for next time
>
>:)
>
>I finally reinstalled to fix it.



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Re: [newbie] An apology and a round of virtual beer

2002-03-15 Thread Kaj Haulrich

FemmeFatale wrote:
> 
> The rest I won't argue.  But English!?
> 
> I am not Sir ;0  Je suis partiellement francais, c'est vrai.  I blame my
> upbringing for me being only being half-french.  And I did grow up in a
> french community I assure you Kaj.
> 
> Oh & I don't speak my native (though I suppose english is as much my
> native tongue) much now for lack of a french community where I am.
> 
> :)
> 
> Sorry I just had to respond...unless that was meant to provoke me...
> 
> Femme
> 
Au contraire, Femme Fatale ! - Excusez-moi ! - C'etait seulement une
jugement male.:-;
Oh shit, my french needs improvement too. BTW : how to type all those
french accents (egu, grave, circonflexe etc.) in a text-only
mail-program ???

Kaj Haulrich
Denmark



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Re: [newbie] M$ to stop shipping windoze?

2002-03-15 Thread shane

On Friday 15 March 2002 10:57, Lyvim Xaphir opened a hailing frequency and 
transmitted:

> On Fri, 2002-03-15 at 12:25, Bill Davidson wrote:
> > I think it would be corporate suicide if they were to stop
> > shipping windoze.

maybe, but the roads of IT are paved with the corpses of people who thought 
MS couldn't succeed selling a crappy product.  marketing is wonderful ain't 
it?

they ship the xbox at a loss.  why is that do you think?  here is an idea.  
4-5 years from now, can you see an xbox, or "windows server" at the center 
of every home serving windows "xxps 2007" or whatever poor name they come 
up with, serving video, audio, and web content to thin clients?  i bet MS 
can.  but they can't afford to ship windows anymore.  darn unreasonable 
DOJ.  so they only sell their OS with their hardware, but you buy it cause 
that is the only way to have IE, and office, and everyone and their dog run 
those, besides, if you have an xbox you won't have crashes, right?   just 
like you got 95 to avoid those dos crashes, and 98 cause 9 crashed, and 
 and how else do you use your MS tablet pc to control your home?

sounds silly, but if you told 6 years ago that ms would take over the 
browser market by shipping a poor excuse for a browser with all windows 
versions, i would have laughed.

MS has dictated hardware policy for years.  they are lossing that now, to a 
degree.  why not crush the hardware makers like they crushed OS2, BeOS, 
Dr.DOS..  it is a long list.  and people upgrade their hardware all the 
time, right?

> What people need to realize is that there are liars, damn liars, and
> Microsoft marketing reps.  Windoze is a product of posturing,
> perception, and ignorance; in short, marketing.  As such, there is
> vanishing little of technical value in their OS.  You will see more lies
> in court as M$ defends itself than you will ever see anywhere else.
> This includes the removability issue surrounding Internet Exploiter.

i have admit, i am confused as to how they submitted false evidence, later 
admitted it, and yet there is still a question about the case?  an even 
better question, why does the american government buy software from 
criminals they are in court with?

> I recommend the following book:
>
> Barbarians Led by Bill Gates
> ISBN 0-8050-5754-4

thanks, will look it up

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Re: [newbie] Internet Connection Problems

2002-03-15 Thread Miark

Guilherme,

Did you enable DNS forwarding in WinGate?

Miark




On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:33:51 -0300, Guilherme Cirne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke 
thusly:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm having trouble getting LM 8.1 to connect to the internet through my home 
> LAN. My setup is as follows:
> 
> - Machine sharing the internet connection: Win98 (running Wingate), ip 
> 192.168.0.2
> 
> - Client: LM 8.1, setup through Mandrake Control Center with ip 192.168.0.1, 
> gateway 192.168.0.2, DNS 192.168.0.2. This is how it is supposed to be done 
> according to the Wingate manual.
> 
> I can ping the Win98 box from LM and vice-versa. From the client machine I 
> can also ping any ip on the internet. But I can't ping hostnames (i.e. ping 
> www.linux-mandrake.com returns unknown host: www.linux-mandrake.com). So I 
> think it has something to do with DNS. But what?
> 
> My /etc/resolv.conf file has just one entry: nameserver 192.168.0.2
> 
> Any help is appreciated.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> 



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Re: [newbie] translucent shell window

2002-03-15 Thread Tim Holmes

Check out the man/help pages for aterm and Eterm.

aterm -tr 

That should give you a transparant background.

Eterm 0.8.*, ~I BELIEVE~, gives you a transparant background
by default.  But I don't know if that's the case.  I do know
that with the right tags, or by clicking through the menu 
you can easily have a transparent background.

You can also add tint to those and the like.  I'd create a
screen shot of some examples, but that's not that easy from 
here at work.  If you're interested in some more information
and or examples, feel free to email me directly.

Transparent *terms are pretty sweet.  I use a lot of them at
home.
tdh

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Re: [newbie] M$ to stop shipping windoze?

2002-03-15 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Fri, 2002-03-15 at 12:25, Bill Davidson wrote:

> Actually, I believe that M$ might have tied in the code for IE with 
> windoze so that they could say 'See, look what happens when you remove 
> IE'. They think everyone is dumb and they can just paint their own picture 
> of how things are and that's the way it will be. Of course that's their 
> problem and they'll have to rework windoze if that's in fact true. I think 
> it would be corporate suicide if they were to stop shipping windoze.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 

They did tie it in, this is true.  But even that part of their own
approach was screwed up, because the Internet Exploiter was indeed
removeable, even without access to the source code, partly because they
never expected anybody to get access to that.  Shane Brooks proved the
removeability of IE quite some time ago:

http://www.98lite.net/

I have been using 98lite for winblows customers for quite some time.  I
still use it if for some reason I need access to native winblows, which
occurs less and less every month that goes by.

What people need to realize is that there are liars, damn liars, and
Microsoft marketing reps.  Windoze is a product of posturing,
perception, and ignorance; in short, marketing.  As such, there is
vanishing little of technical value in their OS.  You will see more lies
in court as M$ defends itself than you will ever see anywhere else. 
This includes the removability issue surrounding Internet Exploiter.

I recommend the following book:

Barbarians Led by Bill Gates
ISBN 0-8050-5754-4


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[newbie] Network Printer on Win98

2002-03-15 Thread Guilherme Cirne

Hi,

I have samba-client installed and managed to configure a network printer 
installed on a Win98 box using Kups. If the printer is shared on the Win98 
box with no password then printing works perfectly. But if I have it setup 
with a password then I can't print to it. When I send a test page nothing 
happens, it just sits there and there is no error message. Obviously this 
happens because I haven't entered a password to connect to the printer. But 
where do I have to enter this password.

TIA,



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[newbie] Internet Connection Problems

2002-03-15 Thread Guilherme Cirne

Hi,

I'm having trouble getting LM 8.1 to connect to the internet through my home 
LAN. My setup is as follows:

- Machine sharing the internet connection: Win98 (running Wingate), ip 
192.168.0.2

- Client: LM 8.1, setup through Mandrake Control Center with ip 192.168.0.1, 
gateway 192.168.0.2, DNS 192.168.0.2. This is how it is supposed to be done 
according to the Wingate manual.

I can ping the Win98 box from LM and vice-versa. From the client machine I 
can also ping any ip on the internet. But I can't ping hostnames (i.e. ping 
www.linux-mandrake.com returns unknown host: www.linux-mandrake.com). So I 
think it has something to do with DNS. But what?

My /etc/resolv.conf file has just one entry: nameserver 192.168.0.2

Any help is appreciated.

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Re: RE: [newbie] M$ to stop shipping windoze?

2002-03-15 Thread Jim Dawson

That's like Osama Bin Laden threatening to kill himself if the US millitary doesn't 
get out of Afghanastan...

-Original Message-
From: "Tom Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 17:51:03 -
Subject: RE: [newbie] M$ to stop shipping windoze?

The funniest thing about all this is that they're "threatening" to stop
shipping it.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Davidson
> Sent: 15 March 2002 17:26
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] M$ to stop shipping windoze?
>
>
> On Friday 15 March 2002 11:47 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> > On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 19:07, Bill Davidson wrote:
> > > Anyone think they would do it?
> > >
> > > http://theregister.co.uk/content/4/24278.html
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > 
> >
> > It is a smokescreen to "scare" everybody (snicker) and also an obscenely
> > blatant posture posed to gain sympathy for their "case".
> >
> > If the DOJ hadn't been bought off by Republican lobbying by M$, (they
> > spent 24 million on the republicans, btw)  it's entirely probable that
> > they would have been broken up by now.  There have been three judges on
> > this case; and in every case, Microsoft (through its MSNBC news services
> > and other means) have been able to push the view that these judges were
> > biased. This trend is unparalleled as far as I know.  Judge Colleen is
> > probably going to be the last stop; the "biased judge" routine was old
> > before it started.
>
> Actually, I believe that M$ might have tied in the code for IE with
> windoze so that they could say 'See, look what happens when you remove
> IE'. They think everyone is dumb and they can just paint their
> own picture
> of how things are and that's the way it will be. Of course that's their
> problem and they'll have to rework windoze if that's in fact
> true. I think
> it would be corporate suicide if they were to stop shipping windoze.
>
> Bill
>
>







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RE: [newbie] laptop

2002-03-15 Thread Tom Harris

I would be interested too, as I recently bought 8.1 only to find it wouldn't
work on my ancient laptop.  I am currently having to use doze 3.1 *shudder*

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of shane
> Sent: 14 March 2002 06:25
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] laptop
>
>
> does anyone know a good place to buy older/used laptops online?  and any
> recommendations as to what to get?
>
> i am only looking for a pent II or equiv, and it has to run mandrake 8.1
> (shocked aren't you?) but othere than that i am open to suggestions?
> recommended brands, resellers, refurbs, etc.
>
> thanks!
>
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>
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RE: [newbie] Resend: KDE does not come up.

2002-03-15 Thread Burrows, Scott

Civilme,

I rm'd the ~/.kde folder as you suggested and I deleted the
DCOPserver_localhost.localdomain_:0 file as well.  Issued a 
startx (which I dont have any reason to believe is
the problem) and I got the same error screen from KDE.  
My .xsession-errors file says:

"iceauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/scott/.ICEauthority
KCrash: crashing crashResursionCounter = 2
KCrash: Application Name = ksplash path =  pid = 2586
IO error opening ICE Connection!

IO error opening ICE Connection!

kdeinit:  DCOPserver could not be started, aborting."


It sounds like the the .ICEAuthority file is corrupted.

Should I rm it and try KDE again?

Scott

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-Original Message-
From: civileme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 5:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Resend: KDE does not come up.


Burrows, Scott wrote:

>Civilme,
>
>I was foolishly snooting around my MD8.1 system, which was working fine,
>as root and now KDE wont come up.  Never had a problem before with it. 
>It stops with a message at the splash screen.  
>
>"The application The KDE Splash Screen (ksplash) crashed and caused
>the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)."
>
>The .xsession-errors file says:
>kdeinit: DCOPSserver could not be started, aborting.
>IO error opening  ICE Connection!
>
>The system boots fine.  Its only after I issue the startx command do I have
>a problem
>and I can get out of by ctrl-alt-backspaceing.
>
>What did I do to it and what can I do to get it working again?
>
>Also, at the text prompt outside of X how can I install something?
>Do I need to mount the CDRom drive first then issue an
>RPM command?
>
>Thanks
>
>Scott Burrows
>GSBE/EDIView/BSBE OSM Support
>
OK  let me think...

Hmmm

try

rm -r ~/.kde -f

then startx

The safe way to start window managers from the console is probably 
Xtart.  There is a bug in the current one, and I am not sure Xtart-1.1 
has made it to mirrors so download at

http://www.civileme.net/Xtart-1.1-6mdk.i586.rpm

Then install with rpm -Uvh Xtart-1.1-6mdk.i586.rpm

Civileme


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RE: [newbie] M$ to stop shipping windoze?

2002-03-15 Thread Tom Harris

The funniest thing about all this is that they're "threatening" to stop
shipping it.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Davidson
> Sent: 15 March 2002 17:26
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] M$ to stop shipping windoze?
>
>
> On Friday 15 March 2002 11:47 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> > On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 19:07, Bill Davidson wrote:
> > > Anyone think they would do it?
> > >
> > > http://theregister.co.uk/content/4/24278.html
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > 
> >
> > It is a smokescreen to "scare" everybody (snicker) and also an obscenely
> > blatant posture posed to gain sympathy for their "case".
> >
> > If the DOJ hadn't been bought off by Republican lobbying by M$, (they
> > spent 24 million on the republicans, btw)  it's entirely probable that
> > they would have been broken up by now.  There have been three judges on
> > this case; and in every case, Microsoft (through its MSNBC news services
> > and other means) have been able to push the view that these judges were
> > biased. This trend is unparalleled as far as I know.  Judge Colleen is
> > probably going to be the last stop; the "biased judge" routine was old
> > before it started.
>
> Actually, I believe that M$ might have tied in the code for IE with
> windoze so that they could say 'See, look what happens when you remove
> IE'. They think everyone is dumb and they can just paint their
> own picture
> of how things are and that's the way it will be. Of course that's their
> problem and they'll have to rework windoze if that's in fact
> true. I think
> it would be corporate suicide if they were to stop shipping windoze.
>
> Bill
>
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Re: [newbie] Interrupts and being interrupted

2002-03-15 Thread Jussi Aalto

On Friday 15 March 2002 02:09, you wrote:
>
> That seemed the best way to go to me too.  But how are the interrupts
> set?  Are you talking bios settings here?  I guess not as W$ would
> inherit them too.  I have set this stuff in W$, but not in Linux.
>
> thanks again
> Brian
>

On my system the BIOS (Award) offers the possibility select whether there 
are PNP-OS'es installed or not and all IRQs can be set manually if 
needed. But since you have XP installed it may be better use the Plug 'n 
Pray method (I'm not familiar with Bills latest inventions so I can't 
tell what happens if XP can't get the PNP info from BIOS, probably it 
freaks out and will blow up, burn your computer, your house, all of the 
neighborhood, gas stations nearby explode, etc. etc. ).

So you'll just have to do some experimenting, you could start by letting 
the BIOS be as it is now and check isapnptools and it's documentation. 
pnpdump should give you the info you need to set up the sound card 
correctly. You didn't mention what version of Mandrake you have (or I 
missed it) so I suggest downloading the latest version of isapnptools and 
maybe XMMS too and all the related stuff.

Cheers,
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Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all

2002-03-15 Thread shane

cool history lesson, thanks!

On Friday 15 March 2002 09:05, Lyvim Xaphir opened a hailing frequency and 
transmitted:

> Where did you hear that the University of Cal at Berkeley invented Unix?

i knew that bell labs did it, but i was under the impression that 
"bezerkely" was in on it from very early on, like 1970.  funny thing is i 
have heard that joke from several ppl out here

guess i have a new project, learn unix history.  ;-)

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Re: [newbie] M$ to stop shipping windoze?

2002-03-15 Thread Bill Davidson

On Friday 15 March 2002 11:47 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 19:07, Bill Davidson wrote:
> > Anyone think they would do it?
> >
> > http://theregister.co.uk/content/4/24278.html
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > 
>
> It is a smokescreen to "scare" everybody (snicker) and also an obscenely
> blatant posture posed to gain sympathy for their "case".
>
> If the DOJ hadn't been bought off by Republican lobbying by M$, (they
> spent 24 million on the republicans, btw)  it's entirely probable that
> they would have been broken up by now.  There have been three judges on
> this case; and in every case, Microsoft (through its MSNBC news services
> and other means) have been able to push the view that these judges were
> biased. This trend is unparalleled as far as I know.  Judge Colleen is
> probably going to be the last stop; the "biased judge" routine was old
> before it started.

Actually, I believe that M$ might have tied in the code for IE with 
windoze so that they could say 'See, look what happens when you remove 
IE'. They think everyone is dumb and they can just paint their own picture 
of how things are and that's the way it will be. Of course that's their 
problem and they'll have to rework windoze if that's in fact true. I think 
it would be corporate suicide if they were to stop shipping windoze.

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Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all

2002-03-15 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 22:30, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

> I'm in Sydney, Australia [no Kangaroos here either, unless you travel a few
> hundred kilometres inland, or visit a zoo :) ]. It's 14:30 and 23 degrees
> Celsius (it's usually hotter, but we've had a lot of rain the past few days).
> 
> -- 
> Sridhar Dhanapalan
> 
>  "We like to think of ourselves as the Microsoft of the energy world"
>   -- Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron
> 

Would a kangaroo make a good pet?  Just curious

;)


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Re: [newbie] Shame we live in diff countries and all

2002-03-15 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 19:11, shane wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 March 2002 08:26, Myers, Dennis R NWO opened a hailing 
> frequency and transmitted:
> 
> > LoL... ever hear of Pigdog? Being a Sanfranciscan and all.
> 
> fraid not, but i have only been here 2 years. :-P
> 
> i have learned there is a reason berkely invented both UNIX and LSD 
> though. :-D
> 
> -- 
> "He who laughs, lasts."

Where did you hear that the University of Cal at Berkeley invented Unix?

Ken Thompson and Dennis Richie developed the first version of Unix at
Bell labs in Murray Hill, NJ circa 1969.  (same year that men walked
on the moon, btw) They developed the OS so they could run a game on a
less expensive PDP-11 minicomputer (computer time was expensive in those
days.)  They made the OS portable by using a variant of the "B"
programming language (authored by Ken Thompson) called "C" (based on B,
but basically authored by Dennis Richie). The reason they wanted to port
the OS was so they could run a game called "Space Travel."
 
In 1975, Unix was made available to educational institutions at minimal
cost by Bell Labs.  Among those that got it was the Computer Systems
Research Group at the University of Cal at Berkeley.  The distro forked
into BSD.


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Re: [newbie] Installing a program via a shell script

2002-03-15 Thread Gerald Waugh

On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Mark Licker wrote:
> > I'm trying to install a program I downloaded (faxview, as mentioned on
> > Freshmeat). The download was a whopping 92 K shell script named
> > faxview-2.0b. While in the directory containing the download, I su'ed to
> > root and gave the command:
> > 
> > faxview-2.0b
> > 
> > and recived the error message "bash: faxview-2.0b: command not found"
> > 
> 
> You mentioned that the program was downloaded as a shell script. Did you 
> try making it executable before running (chmod +x [file])?
> Mark
> 
> 
That would fix a permission denied error, not a file not found error.

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Re: [newbie] M$ to stop shipping windoze?

2002-03-15 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 19:07, Bill Davidson wrote:
> Anyone think they would do it?
> 
> http://theregister.co.uk/content/4/24278.html
> 
> Bill
> 
> 

It is a smokescreen to "scare" everybody (snicker) and also an obscenely
blatant posture posed to gain sympathy for their "case".

If the DOJ hadn't been bought off by Republican lobbying by M$, (they
spent 24 million on the republicans, btw)  it's entirely probable that
they would have been broken up by now.  There have been three judges on
this case; and in every case, Microsoft (through its MSNBC news services
and other means) have been able to push the view that these judges were
biased. This trend is unparalleled as far as I know.  Judge Colleen is
probably going to be the last stop; the "biased judge" routine was old
before it started.


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Re:[newbie] Can't install on Dell (Kaj)

2002-03-15 Thread Edvard Wikström

Hello Kaj,

I´m in the middle of a exam-period so I haven´t been enable to read all my mails, I 
have too much to do. That means that I haven´t touched my new machine either. I just 
want to thank you for the help. I´m going to follow your advice, I will post my 
question to the expert list and hope for the best.

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[newbie] What is ICE and DCOP?

2002-03-15 Thread Burrows, Scott


Hey all,

Newbie question here.  I have a MD8.1 system.

What are the following files in my home folder for?  If they are corrupted
or deleted what happens to
the system?

1) ICEauthority

2) DCOPserver_localhost.localdomain_0:


Thanks

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[newbie] [somewhat OT] Descent3 again

2002-03-15 Thread Robin Turner

OK, I've got Descent3 running now (my curiosity was piqued by earlier posts). 
 It runs, but with no sound (this is using Mdk 8.0 and a Creative AWE64 
card). The documentation boiled down to "If you don't have sound, then either 
your speakers aren't plugged in, or you don't have sound in Linux.  If other 
Linux apps are producing sound, then it looks like you've got a problem".

Anyone else have this problem?  Anyone fixed it?

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Re: [newbie] Installing a program via a shell script

2002-03-15 Thread Mark Licker

Myers, Dennis R NWO wrote:
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Warren Post
> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 6:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] Installing a program via a shell script
> 
> 
> I'm trying to install a program I downloaded (faxview, as mentioned on
> Freshmeat). The download was a whopping 92 K shell script named
> faxview-2.0b. While in the directory containing the download, I su'ed to
> root and gave the command:
> 
> faxview-2.0b
> 
> and recived the error message "bash: faxview-2.0b: command not found"
> 
> What am I doing wrong? And recommendations for fax frontends gladly 
> accepted.
> -- 
> Warren Post
> Santa Rosa de Copan, Honduras
> http://www.srcopan.vze.com/
> 
> Warren, try  ./faxview-2.0b at the prompt and see if that doesn't get it 
> going.  Also Hylafax should be on the CDs and have a decent front end.  HTH
> 
> Dennis M.
> 

You mentioned that the program was downloaded as a shell script. Did you 
try making it executable before running (chmod +x [file])?
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[newbie] Connection sharing reconfiguration.

2002-03-15 Thread Wei Wang

One Mandrake box and a windows box sharing one IP address. IP masquarading was 
set up via Mandrake control center Connection Sharing. Everything works fine 
except that everytime after Mandrake reboot, the configuration of Conneciton 
sharing has to be done again. Is there any way I could keep the configuration?

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RE: [newbie] Installing a program via a shell script

2002-03-15 Thread Myers, Dennis R NWO
Title: RE: [newbie] Installing a program via a shell script







-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Warren Post
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 6:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Installing a program via a shell script



I'm trying to install a program I downloaded (faxview, as mentioned on
Freshmeat). The download was a whopping 92 K shell script named
faxview-2.0b. While in the directory containing the download, I su'ed to
root and gave the command:


faxview-2.0b


and recived the error message "bash: faxview-2.0b: command not found"


What am I doing wrong? And recommendations for fax frontends gladly accepted.
-- 
Warren Post
Santa Rosa de Copan, Honduras
http://www.srcopan.vze.com/


Warren, try  ./faxview-2.0b at the prompt and see if that doesn't get it going.  Also Hylafax should be on the CDs and have a decent front end.  HTH

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Re: [newbie] System Getting Sluggish

2002-03-15 Thread Brian Parish

That's OK Civileme, it makes the rest of us feel better to know you are
not quite perfect.  Thanks Alan - now I have another command with which
to baffle myself and others ;-)

Brian

On Fri, 2002-03-15 at 13:38, civileme wrote:
> Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> 
> >Brian Parish wrote:
> >
> >>Civileme,
> >>
> >>Hmmm.  I can see that bdflush is running on my system, but
> >>bdflush is not found either as root or as a normal user.
> >> locate can't track it down either.  Software Manager says
> >>it's installed, but all I find is the man pages.  Looking
> >>at these, the command is certainly documented as you
> >>suggest.
> >>
> >>Any ideas?  There's no problem here, but I get curious when
> >>little inconsistencies like this come up.
> >>
> >>Brian
> >>
> >
> >Brianthe bdflush executable is named 'update'. :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> 
> Civileme
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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