Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 lilo issue
On Wednesday 24 March 2004 12:47 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > I've received a wonderful package from the UK that contains the Mandrake > 9.2 CD set - THANK YOU HEAPS! > > Meawnwhile, in the installation on a client's machine (P4 w/SATA drive) > lilo just wouldn't install - grub installed, but I have this niggling > thing for lilo; is this a known issue - and can I install lilo later on? > > Once again, THANKS for the CDROM's! > > stephen kuhn - owner Same happened to me when I upgraded from 9.1 to 9.2. I never did discover why lilo refused to install, despite multiple tries, but Grub is working fine, so I haven't messed with it. Lilo installed fine on 3 other machines, including 2 laptops. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] (no subject) xmms
On Wednesday 24 Mar 2004 14:56, Tom wrote: > Hey all, I have just recently gotten a 10 community system up an > running and have a question about groups and permissions/software > installs. When I add software as a user it works ok, but when I add it > as root I then have trouble using it as user. I was having trouble with > xmms- it would play fine as root, but would start and then choke as > user. I assumed it was permissions, they were already rwx for all, so > I changed xmms to my user group. Still chokes, is it then a sound driver > issue- does my user need different sound privileges? > Thanks, How are you managing to add software as a user? You have to be root to install an RPM You do need permission for a user to access any hardware device, but that is all sorted out automatically. You should see that /dev/sound or /dev/dsp is owned by whatever user you are logged in as. And what do you mean by "choke" If you start xmms from the command line do you see any error message? Which driver are you using?, which xmms output plugin? derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Screen Resolution & Refresh Rate
I had the same problem with my Intel 82855 chip. Check out this link from Intel http://support.intel.com/support/notebook/centrino/sb/cs-006059-prd955.htm Click on linux drivers and download and install the .rpm file. The follow the X -configure instructions in the Readme. This should get your desktop back within your screen, but I am still working on figuring out how to get the resolution right. The desktop and program icons and text still look huge to me. Let me know if you figure out something for that. -john smith Beavers, Randy W. wrote: All, How do I tell the "Monitor" to change Screen Resolution & Refresh Rates? It's stuck at 460x480. I'am looking at a big desktop through a little window. That I push around with mouse. Running MandrakeMove on a Dell P4 MM doesn't have drivers for the Intel 82865gG graghics card, but all the Intel drivers doing the same thing. MM has the right monitor. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good news for Linux, bad news for Mandrake.
On Wednesday 24 March 2004 07:51 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 12:25, frankieh wrote: > > > > It's a slow road to toe, but the tech world is changing. Don't need all > that fancy-dancy marketing if you've got an OS that's solid as a rock... > > It would be rather nice if someone somewhere WOULD do some more > marketing of linux - even in a small way. I try my best to market it's > uses to my customers and to those that I end up meeting - every time a > customer comes here to the house they SEE it in action and freak out at > what I can do with it (whilst I'm fixing their Windown machines). I've > spray painted "linux" on the boot of my car, even - and have Redhat > stickers all over the back as well... > > stephen kuhn - owner I have made quite a number of converts here. I have lost count quite a while ago. In the small town that I live in, (population under 500) news travels fast. I am the only person that I know of for about 20 miles around that repairs or builds computers although the main business here is a small machine shop that my wife and I own. Everyone that comes in the door here with computer problems or asking about having me build them a computer gets told about Mandrake Linux, Most of them end up test driving my machine and I would estimate that well over half of them end up having me put Mandrake on their machine , sometimes replaceing windoze and other times as a bual boot setup. Like I said news around here travels fast. Now people are coming around asking me about Mandrake. I even keep a old clunker 500 MHS With ML 10.0 installed around for a loaner computer for some of the folks that bring their machine in for repair and can't do without a computer for a day or 2. That has made a number of converts. At this point the little town that I live in here in Arkansas may very well have a higher percentage of Mandrake users than anywhere else in the US, word seems to be spreading to the surrounding small towns fast. And people think hillbillies are dumb, at least they know a far superior OS when they see one LOL. The guy that teh Gateway burn in hell thread was all about used my loaner for a day and was insistant that he would not use windoze ever again, in fact I was there while he told that to several people from Gateway on the phone and then told them about how much better ML was than win XP. All that after using Mandrake for just 24 hours. Marc -- Composed on a 100% Microsoft and windows free computer using Mandrake Linux 10.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good news for Linux, bad news for Mandrake.
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 02:32 am, many eyes viewed Aron Smith's words:- > On Wednesday 24 March 2004 06:34 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 13:19, Aron Smith wrote: > > > Dammit Stephen show a little enthusiasm. > > > > If I can make a stencil (as I did with the linux paint-job) I'm going to > > splay "I fix computers not cars" on my bumper (1983 Toyota Corona that > > looks like it's been shot at and missed, shit at and hit). > > > > BTW, if there were bumperstickers available that had something about > > Mandrake on 'em I'd get a few... > > Use GIMP ,a laser printer and full sheet label paper & Make your own Yep, something like Linux Mandrake the wizard of O/S. > > > stephen kuhn - owner > > == > > illawarra computer services > > a kuhn media australia company > > http://kma.0catch.com > > -- > > * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * > > We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents > > -- > > It's OKAY -- I'm an INTELLECTUAL, too. -- 'Come to the edge', he said. They said..'We are afraid'. 'Come to the edge', he said. They came, he pushed them And they flew. - Guillaume Apollinaire This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good news for Linux, bad news for Mandrake.
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 14:16, Aron Smith wrote: > > Ain't you supposed to be eating dinner about now? Like beans, cabbage, > > cornbread and chitlins? > Nope Steak Potatos Green Beans sourdogh Bread > Like chitlins ..just can't stand the smell of them cooking (that smell could > be classified as a WMD) ...that which doesn't kill us only makes us stronger. Hmm...sourdough bread - ain't had that in yonks - ditto with potato bread as well...and corn bread...damn...getting too close time for tea - wonder if I can grab some cornbread from the Woolies (along with the damn kernel sources for 9.2) stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- "Quite frankly, I don't like you humans. After what you all have done, I find being 'inhuman' a compliment." -- Spider Robinson, "Callahan's Secret" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good news for Linux, bad news for Mandrake.
On Wednesday 24 March 2004 06:50 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 13:32, Aron Smith wrote: > > > BTW, if there were bumperstickers available that had something about > > > Mandrake on 'em I'd get a few... > > > > Use GIMP ,a laser printer and full sheet label paper & Make your own > > Ain't you supposed to be eating dinner about now? Like beans, cabbage, > cornbread and chitlins? Nope Steak Potatos Green Beans sourdogh Bread Like chitlins ..just can't stand the smell of them cooking (that smell could be classified as a WMD) > > stephen kuhn - owner > == > illawarra computer services > a kuhn media australia company > http://kma.0catch.com > -- > * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * > We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents > -- > I'll be comfortable on the couch. Famous last words. -- Lenny Bruce Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good news for Linux, bad news for Mandrake.
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 13:32, Aron Smith wrote: > > BTW, if there were bumperstickers available that had something about > > Mandrake on 'em I'd get a few... > Use GIMP ,a laser printer and full sheet label paper & Make your own Ain't you supposed to be eating dinner about now? Like beans, cabbage, cornbread and chitlins? stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- I'll be comfortable on the couch. Famous last words. -- Lenny Bruce Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good news for Linux, bad news for Mandrake.
On Wednesday 24 March 2004 06:34 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 13:19, Aron Smith wrote: > > Dammit Stephen show a little enthusiasm. > > If I can make a stencil (as I did with the linux paint-job) I'm going to > splay "I fix computers not cars" on my bumper (1983 Toyota Corona that > looks like it's been shot at and missed, shit at and hit). > > BTW, if there were bumperstickers available that had something about > Mandrake on 'em I'd get a few... Use GIMP ,a laser printer and full sheet label paper & Make your own > > stephen kuhn - owner > == > illawarra computer services > a kuhn media australia company > http://kma.0catch.com > -- > * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * > We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents > -- > It's OKAY -- I'm an INTELLECTUAL, too. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good news for Linux, bad news for Mandrake.
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 13:19, Aron Smith wrote: > Dammit Stephen show a little enthusiasm. If I can make a stencil (as I did with the linux paint-job) I'm going to splay "I fix computers not cars" on my bumper (1983 Toyota Corona that looks like it's been shot at and missed, shit at and hit). BTW, if there were bumperstickers available that had something about Mandrake on 'em I'd get a few... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- It's OKAY -- I'm an INTELLECTUAL, too. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good news for Linux, bad news for Mandrake.
On Wednesday 24 March 2004 05:51 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 12:25, frankieh wrote: > > > > It's a slow road to toe, but the tech world is changing. Don't need all > that fancy-dancy marketing if you've got an OS that's solid as a rock... > > It would be rather nice if someone somewhere WOULD do some more > marketing of linux - even in a small way. I try my best to market it's > uses to my customers and to those that I end up meeting - every time a > customer comes here to the house they SEE it in action and freak out at > what I can do with it (whilst I'm fixing their Windown machines). I've > spray painted "linux" on the boot of my car, even - and have Redhat > stickers all over the back as well... Dammit Stephen show a little enthusiasm. > > stephen kuhn - owner > == > illawarra computer services > a kuhn media australia company > http://kma.0catch.com > -- > * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * > We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents > -- > A guy walks into a bar, orders a beer, carries it to the bathroom and > dumps it into a urinal. Over the course of the next few hours, he goes > back to the bar and repeats this sequence -- several times. Finally the > bartender got so curious that he leaned over the bar and asked him what > he was doing. Replied the customer, "Avoiding the middleman." Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Reinstalling bad programs
On Tuesday 23 March 2004 06:36 am, Derek Jennings wrote: > On Tuesday 23 Mar 2004 12:31, Derek Jennings wrote: > > On Tuesday 23 Mar 2004 12:05, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > I have some programs XMMS, kmail, & konqueror that apparantly > > > have some bad config files. I have reinstalled them but they are > > > still not good. How can I reinstall and clear everything > > > assosciated with that file from the computer or at least > > > overwrite everything. > > > > > > Regards; > > > Hoyt > > > > The config files are kept in hidden files/folders in your /home > > Just set konq to show hidden files and you will be able to find > > them. > > > > Another useful tool is slocate and kio_locate. (kio_locate is in > > the contrib mirror) > > Install those packages (install anacron too) and then run updatedb > > as root. You can then find any file on your computer to do with > > those apps. For example from the command line use 'slocate xmms' > > From konqueror enter locate://xmms/ in the url line > > Sorry Typo. That should read locate:/xmms/ > > derek Thanks for the attempt but I tried to get rid of an especially ugly font A.D.MONO and that operation created a fault in boot. Since I couldn't fix it I had to reinstall (6 times) but things are all better now. -- Regards; Hoyt Ignore the past and you will fail! Ignore the future and you have already failed! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Good news for Linux, bad news for Mandrake.
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 12:25, frankieh wrote: It's a slow road to toe, but the tech world is changing. Don't need all that fancy-dancy marketing if you've got an OS that's solid as a rock... It would be rather nice if someone somewhere WOULD do some more marketing of linux - even in a small way. I try my best to market it's uses to my customers and to those that I end up meeting - every time a customer comes here to the house they SEE it in action and freak out at what I can do with it (whilst I'm fixing their Windown machines). I've spray painted "linux" on the boot of my car, even - and have Redhat stickers all over the back as well... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- A guy walks into a bar, orders a beer, carries it to the bathroom and dumps it into a urinal. Over the course of the next few hours, he goes back to the bar and repeats this sequence -- several times. Finally the bartender got so curious that he leaned over the bar and asked him what he was doing. Replied the customer, "Avoiding the middleman." Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Monitor in sleep mode.
On Tuesday 23 March 2004 07:04 am, Dan Gordon wrote: > On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:00:18 + > > John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think it's that simple. The TCO symbol means the monitor > > itself can do this, I know in theory the bios ought to shut it down > > if you can set it as such not all bioses can. > > I think windblows has some other piece of mechanism to work > > with both the bios and the monitor to make this co-operate. > > I cannot speak for M9.2 + M10 because I don't have them, > > but up to M9.1 there just does not seem any way of turning the > > sleep mode off. I just live with it, it doesn't affect the > > important apps like mplayer etc, and since I like a blank black > > screen when the computer is idle , to my mind that's OK. What did I > > do, I set screensaver at 20 mins, and somehow I set blank black > > monitor at 60 minutes ( although I like a blank black screen I > > don't want it flicking into it all the damn time, it irritates) but > > I cannot remember how I set the 60 minutes . Sorry > > my memory fails me. But you have to have a blank black > > screen after some time or other regardless. Cannot completely > > turn it off, and as I say I came to the conclusion the monitor > > itself is the thing that is doing it for you, not bios, I think > > the monitor listens out for "events" and awakes itself > > should the need arrise, and that maybe what happens if > > you are running programmes in the background and > > suddenly the users attention is called for so it wakes the > > monitor up by listening out for this. I guess there is > > a technical imput back and forth between the monitor > > and the bus and the internet if that is on as well, I don't > > really know that much about it all. However, does > > not being able to turn off monitor sleep mode , matter ? > > Hehehe you know it really does not matter, it just never did this > before. I have been running 9.2 since it came out and always woke up > to xscreensaver's pyro. since i reinstalled 9.2 last week was the > first time i ever saw this behaviour. Anyhow it really does not > matter i guess. Could this be "a ghost in the machine" ? naaa > > Regards, > Dan Gordon I would suggest since the monitor is causing the alleged problem you might try the buttons just under the screen on your monitor, one of them should provide you with a menu and likely one of the menu items will resolve the difficulty to your satisfaction. -- Regards; Hoyt Ignore the past and you will fail! Ignore the future and you have already failed! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Good news for Linux, bad news for Mandrake.
As the subject says: http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,115365,00.asp HP, IBM Sign Up for SuSE Linux Novell's distribution will appear on HP desktops, more IBM servers soon. Gillian Law, IDG News Service Wednesday, March 24, 2004 Novell has signed agreements with Hewlett-Packard and IBM to expand support for its SuSE Linux operating system on their PCs and servers. HP Adopts SuSE HP announced that it will begin certifying and supporting a desktop version of Novell's SuSE Linux software, called SuSE Linux Professional, by the second half of the year. HP already supports SuSE Linux on its server products; and in certain regions, it sells desktop systems with Linux from a variety of Linux vendors, including >> MandrakeSoft<<< SA and Turbolinux. Under the terms of the new agreement, however, SuSE Linux will become HP's standard worldwide Linux distribution across its line of business desktop and notebook PCs. The arrangement will make the Linux desktop more appealing for enterprise customers, some of whom have begun asking about Linux on the desktop, says Martin Fink, HP's vice president for Linux. Fink declines to say whether HP's Linux desktop offerings will cost less than its Windows products, because pricing will ultimately depend on precisely how HP supports the SuSE Linux. "There are a variety of different ways we can deliver this," Fink says. Service for the desktop could be provided either by Novell or by HP, for example, and the Linux desktop could even be available as one of HP's managed desktop services, Fink says. IBM's Interest Expands IBM can now preload SuSE Linux Enterprise Server across its full range of servers, including EServer ISeries, PSeries, XSeries and ZSeries, and its EServer BladeCenter systems, Novell said on Wednesday. Novell will continue its development and support of SuSE Linux on IBM's servers, it said. Previously, IBM was permitted to provide SuSE Linux on a CD along with its servers, but it could not preload the operating system, IBM spokesman Mike Darcy says. IBM works with both Red Hat's Linux and Novell's SuSE Linux, says Scott Handy, IBM's vice president of Linux strategy and market development. If a customer decides to use Linux, IBM will provide them with a free operating system from Red Hat or Novell's SuSE Linux, depending on what the customer wants. "We are distribution-agnostic, and we leave it to the customer to decide. They choose one or other for a variety of reasons," Handy says. A customer using an IBM server that runs SuSE Linux can license the software through IBM, through a reseller, or directly from Novell, Handy says. Partnerships Cinched Novell bought SuSE Linux AG of Nuremburg, Germany, in November 2003 for $210 million in cash. At the same time Novell announced its acquisition of SuSE, it announced that IBM planned to make a $50 million investment in Novell convertible preferred stock. The two companies have finally signed a definitive agreement on this, Novell says. Wednesday's decision should reassure IBM's customers that there will be strong, continued support across IBM's product range, company representatives say. Robert McMillan contributed to this report. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie]
On Wednesday 24 March 2004 04:17 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: > Perhaps I should have qualified. You can have up to 4 primary partitions > on a hard drive but only one can be marked active. Windows and DOS will > only "see" the active primary partition and will ignore all others. > DOS or Windows /9x/ME won't see the additional primary partitions as you noted. Windows 2k and XP will see the other primaries and happily assign them drive letters if the format is compatible with reading in Windows (along with any logical partitions inside any extended partitions that are readable, subject to your configuration instructing Windows which partitions you want drive letters assigned to.) Here's an example of someone creating a boot and data partition from Windows XP: http://www.theeldergeek.com/hard_drives_06.htm And, includes two primary partitions. I often mount Linux ext3 partitions in Windows using an aftermarket driver, and can then read and write to these easily. If they'd make a version of that driver compatible with a ReiserFS I'd be ecstatic. Extended partitions are very useful when one needs them. Keep in mind that a badly messed up logical partition inside an extended partition can foul up other logical partitions inside the extended partition. The data in a primary partition is much safer. Rick Kunath Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] IP address converter?
On Tuesday 23 Mar 2004 9:20 pm, rikona wrote: > Hello newbie, > > I need to convert a number of IP addresses back and forth from > nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn form to xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx form. Does anyone know of a > calculator on- or off-line to do this? You are mistaken. nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn is an IP (version 4) address. xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx is an Ethernet address. They have no relationship except that in a working system they are (usually) paired together. The IP address refers to the address of the machine through a particular network port. The Ethernet address refers to a particular network card. In fact, IIRC, Linux can bond multiple network cards onto the same IP address. It is rare though. Here is a bash script to convert IP addresses to Ethernet addresses, so long as the machine in question is accessible on the network at the time the script is run. The reverse conversion is always problematic - and is usually the one you want to do. It most cases it becomes a matter of walking from one machine to the next checking the ethernet address of each. -- Richard Urwin ip2ether Description: application/shellscript Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] dialup networking problem
On Wednesday 24 Mar 2004 12:46, Russell Butler wrote: > Dear all, > > Sorry if this is in the archives, but I could not find anything > immediately relevant. > Reinstall of Mandrake 9.1, have set up shorewall(2.0) firewall and have > local network/samba/cups running (sigh). > > Dialup works in the sense of being able to connect to my ISP, but no > access to the net and pinging the nameserver in resolv.conf gives > "Destination host unreachable" > Previously I had found this happened when the default Drake.conf > firewall setting was anything other than "Allow everything" but now no joy. > > Uninstalling shorewall completely still does not allow connection of > browser, mail or ping to nameserver address from resolv.conf, so it does > not seem to be just a firewall issue. > > Where can I set debug levels for the connection? Looking at syslog & > messages doesn't seem to show anything informative. ifconfig looks OK, > showing local eth0 address and appropriate entries for the dialup > nameservers, but I cannot ping the latter. > > This has been going for a couple of weeks now, and iam feeling very > frustrated. I had just installed win-4-lin so that I did not have to > reboot Windows, and now I do just to ask for help about my Linux > networking. > > Thanks for any help you can give. > > Russell Two suggestions 1/ If shorewall is running when you are in dialup, then you must put the dial up interface into the 'net' zone of shorewall. Edit /etc/shorewall/interfaces and add the line net ppp0detect Restart shorewall with 'shorewall restart' in a root terminal 2/ You may have a problem with your 'route' When the dial up link is working enter 'route' in a terminal. The last line displayed will show the default route to the internet. If this does not point to your ppp0 interface then it is not going to work. You can force ppp0 to become the default route . Create a file /etc/ppp/if-up.local with the contents #!/bin/bash #reassign default route when on dial up route del default route add default dev ppp0 Make this file executable. Now when you start dial up networking the script will reassign the route. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Gateway BURN IN HELL!! RANT Kind of long
On Tuesday 23 Mar 2004 5:42 pm, Marc wrote: >My views are based on the fact that the Maxtor diagnostic software > says that the hard drive suppled by Gateway is not properly supported > by the BIOS on the mother board suppled BY gateway. My guess is that the BIOS works well enough to pull in the boot block, and then Windows uses its own drivers, whereas Linux uses the BIOS to some extent. Back in 1994/5 we bought a top of the range server from Gateway. The specs would look silly now even if I could remember them, but there was no way this was going to be a workstation. We tried to install NT but it failed. Gateway support denied all responsibility: "We only support Windows 3.11". I haven't even seen a Gateway machine since, I certainly wouldn't buy one, and I regularly tell people to avoid them. Bad PR: ten years and counting. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] dialup networking problem
Dear all, Sorry if this is in the archives, but I could not find anything immediately relevant. Reinstall of Mandrake 9.1, have set up shorewall(2.0) firewall and have local network/samba/cups running (sigh). Dialup works in the sense of being able to connect to my ISP, but no access to the net and pinging the nameserver in resolv.conf gives "Destination host unreachable" Previously I had found this happened when the default Drake.conf firewall setting was anything other than "Allow everything" but now no joy. Uninstalling shorewall completely still does not allow connection of browser, mail or ping to nameserver address from resolv.conf, so it does not seem to be just a firewall issue. Where can I set debug levels for the connection? Looking at syslog & messages doesn't seem to show anything informative. ifconfig looks OK, showing local eth0 address and appropriate entries for the dialup nameservers, but I cannot ping the latter. This has been going for a couple of weeks now, and iam feeling very frustrated. I had just installed win-4-lin so that I did not have to reboot Windows, and now I do just to ask for help about my Linux networking. Thanks for any help you can give. Russell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: {Spam?} [newbie] Seti
seti provide a cron script. Mine is: 0 * * * * cd ~/setiathome; ./setiathome -nice 19 > /dev/null 2> /dev/null Work fine. cheers Brian On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 09:38, David Williams wrote: > I have seti setup to start automatically on boot. However, on occasion when it > can not send its results to Seti it goes into a wait for a time period. At > the end of which if it still cannot connect the process ends. This is per the > Seti sight and I have listed it below. > Is there an easy way to restart the process without having to logout and log > back in? > I have tried CRON but it doesn't seem to want to run the script file below. > > > #!/bin/sh > # > cd /home/david/seti > $ while true > do > ./setiathome -graphics > sleep 7200 # give it two hours to clear up > done > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10 CE Shutdown
On Tuesday 23 Mar 2004 6:45 pm, Margot wrote: > Newly installed 10 CE won't shutdown/poweroff cleanly - using either > the root terminal shutdown process or the KDE logout button I get > as far as this... > uhci_hcd :00:11.2: USB bus 1 deregistered > ... and then it hangs. > > I know this is a known issue, and apparently there is a kernel fix > on the way, but meanwhile... > > Alt + SysRq + R S E I U B will give me a reboot from where the > shutdown hangs - is there a similar trick which will give me a clean > shutdown and poweroff? To answer the original question - the cheat sheet I have here has O for Off... Unless It turns something else off... -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie]
On Wednesday 24 March 2004 04:57 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > As an add-on : Until I got into Linux (7.0) I ran OS/2. On that OS I > always had 4 primary partitions : one for the OS, one for > applications, one for my private stuff and one for backup. All > HPFS. Maybe it's a leftover from way back, but this shema still > lives on my linux-boxes only with the three of them ReiserFS and > the last one FAT32 (just in case). All primary partitions are > "seen" just fine. Which versions of Windows can see your ReiserFS partitions? I have Win2K dual boot on my laptop at work and although it "sees" that there are other partitions on the disk, ReiserFS, it does not assign drive letters to them so they are not accessible, thus ignored. I have also installed XP previously, again, it would note that there were additional partitions on the disk, it would not assign drive letters, thus ignoring the partitions. Well, other than to remove them, that is. So, which version of Windows are you running? -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10 CE Shutdown
On Wednesday 24 March 2004 21:55, Margot wrote: > Well, some success... I managed to download and install the new > kernel (without getting cut off this time), and the shutdown now > goes past the original hang point, but now it gets to this: > > md: md0 switched to read-only mode. > Power down. > > ...but it doesn't actually switch off! > > I assume that it is safe to just hit the power switch at this > point, but is there some setting I could change so it will switch > off automatically? Margot, om my system - from 9.0 and upwards to 10.0 CE - my power never switched off. When the shutdown procedure reads "Power off" I can hear a tiny click inside the case, but the beast won't die. I just unplug the thing and all is well. No harm done. Same thing on the new kernel 2.6.4 from Thomas. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- * Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free computer * * running Linux kernel 2.6.4 on Mandrake 10.0 * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] (no subject) xmms : groups and permissions
Tom wrote: Hey all, I have just recently gotten a 10 community system up an running and have a question about groups and permissions/software installs. When I add software as a user it works ok, but when I add it as root I then have trouble using it as user. I was having trouble with xmms- it would play fine as root, but would start and then choke as user. I assumed it was permissions, they were already rwx for all, so I changed xmms to my user group. Still chokes, is it then a sound driver issue- does my user need different sound privileges? Thanks, sorry about the no subject heading. Also everytime I post here I receive a return notice of Delivery failure??? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Windows bigger than the screen
At 11:57 AM 3/24/04, Paul Smith wrote: Some windows are bigger than the screen, what causes problems with accessing the OK button. Is there any trick to overcome this difficulty? 1) Buy a bigger monitor 2) Change resolution 3) Memorise how many times you need to hit tab key to get to 'OK' button. Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] They needed to do a study?
On Wednesday 24 March 2004 09:10 am, David E. Fox wrote: ->On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 00:25:20 -0800 ->Erylon Hines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -> ->> ->> Add weedsonly.cf, backhair.cf and chickenpox.cf to your /etc/Mail/spamassassin ->> Catches most all the spam. Set your Bayes to trigger on 4.0. Lately, the -> ->Where can I get those .cf files and how do I incorporate them? David, go here for a start: http://www.merchantsoverseas.com/wwwroot/gorilla/sa_rules.htm IIRC I put mine in: /etc/mail/spamassassin HTHs -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Windows bigger than the screen
Set your screen resolution to a higher DPI. I recommend 1024 X 768. That should fix the problem. Jim On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 10:57, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All > > Some windows are bigger than the screen, what causes problems with > accessing the OK button. Is there any trick to overcome this difficulty? > > Thank you a lot in advance! > > Paul > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cd install failed
Derek, i just dont find the prompt after pressing CTR-ALT F2! Fabian. From: Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] cd install failed Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:43:28 + On Tuesday 23 Mar 2004 22:14, di di wrote: > After inserting the first cd of mdk 10 communiy in my 12x cd rom of laptop > presario 1275 -manufactured in 1998- the boot starts, ...but after doing > clic over installing start loading the program and the message of "looking > for usb devices" comes, then comes "looking for cd rom".and here > appears the error message "No CD ROM device found".what strange??it > wouldnt have booted if the cd rom didnt work?? > > I recently installed on a newer desktop pc and everything worked > perfectly > > Thanks...Fabian. > > _ > Consigue aquí las mejores y mas recientes ofertas de trabajo en América > Latina y USA: http://latam.msn.com/empleos/ Try booting from CD2 http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/errata.php3#bootinstall derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com _ Consigue aquí las mejores y mas recientes ofertas de trabajo en América Latina y USA: http://latam.msn.com/empleos/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Windows bigger than the screen
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 04:57:15PM +, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All > > Some windows are bigger than the screen, what causes problems with > accessing the OK button. Is there any trick to overcome this difficulty? > > Thank you a lot in advance! It probably depends on your window manager, but try alt and click the mouse to drag. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Windows bigger than the screen
Paul Smith wrote: Dear All Some windows are bigger than the screen, what causes problems with accessing the OK button. Is there any trick to overcome this difficulty? Thank you a lot in advance! Paul Hold down the ALT key and drag the window so you can access the buttons.. -- rgds Frank Hauptle (aka Franki) For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl & PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com Free web developer resources. Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Install trouble on a Starmax (PPC)
I'm trying to install Mandrake 9.1 on a Starmax 5000 currently running Mac OS 9.1 with 160 Meg of ram. After a bit of trial and error with the bootx settings I got the installer to run, however it seems to only get part way through the hardware identification process and I get a kernal panic error that says the root cannot be run. The machine has a L2 casche slot processor upgrade card (JoeCard) Browsing the archives, I found reference to possible problems with processor upgrade cards, but nothing certain. Can anyone tell me for sure if disabling the processor upgrade will allow the installer to work? If so, will I be able to enable it afterwards? I can't imagine how slow this machine will be without it. Well, actually I can remember quite well and I don't think it will be pleasant! Further details, the machine has a 20GB IDE hard drive with 2 10GB partitions. SCSI CD ROM, IDE CD-RW and SCSI ZIP. Also installed an ATI Rage 128 video card from a BW G3. I would love to here from anyone who has sucessfully installed mandrake on a StarMax with a processor upgrade. I don't NEED to do this, the max works fine for the kids and has long been replaced for me, but it seems a fitting end for an old friend and a possibly entertaining introduction to Linux :) Regards, Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] MS Fined
Microsoft hit by record EU fine be everywhere, but try http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3563697.stm Plus, "Software giant Microsoft must pay a fine of 497m euros ($613m; £331m) for abusing its dominant market position, the European Commission has ordered. Competition Commissioner Mario Monti also insisted Microsoft must reveal secrets of its Windows software, which sits on 90% of the world's PCs." lawyers should be getting a few million more from the appeal. Paul M ___ And, in the beginning, Man created god. Karen Armstrong - 'The History Of God' Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie]
On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 11:26, Bryan Phinney wrote: > On Wednesday 24 March 2004 11:11 am, Chuck Mattsen wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 04:08, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > - From the PM point of view, create your fat32 partition for data > > > immediately after the ntfs partition - you could do this from XP > > > instead, I think. For the rest of the drive just ignore it in PM. > > > > Okay, that's where the free space is, and where the FAT32 partition will > > be. My question where that is concerned is that if I create another > > "primary drive" (e.g., "F:"), would that in any way affect my dual-boot > > status if it's just going to be used for data accessible to both > > systems? > > Not sure that I am following this question entirely, but just to mention a > possible issue. You can only have one primary partition per hard drive. All > other partitions under windows need to be created as extended partitions > split into whatever logical drives you want. Logical drives don't need to > follow any particular convention, at least not for XP, they can be lettered > in any way and the order is not dependent. (For instance, you can have a D: > drive that appears physically before the C: drive on a disk. But, if you > create a second primary partition, it will either be hidden or it will take > the place of the first primary partition. If you are creating additional > drives within already defined space, then hopefully, the primary partition > only extends to the first drive on the disk and subsequent space is already > included in the extended partition. > > Personally, if I were going to create an additional FAT32 partition for > sharing, I would create the partition with Linux. Windows should have no > problem seeing and letting you use the partition and even assigning a drive > letter to it. Partition Magic allows you to do some things that you > shouldn't do in the interest of allowing experts to do things like creating > hidden mirror partitions on a drive, etc. > > The added benefit to this is that diskdrake won't allow you to create multiple > primary partitions and short of deleting an existing partition, shouldn't > harm your windows partition in any way. At least, not in my experience. I > have, however, managed to take out a Windows installation more than once > using PM, nothing that couldn't be recovered but it was a hassle. Okay, thanks ... yeah, that's what I was trying to say, so ineptly. :-) On the Windows side of things, the only option presented to me, it seems, would be to create a primary partition out of that freed space, hence the "Are you sure?" prompts and my hesitance to proceed any further because of that. I was concerned that if I created the partition from within Linux that it wouldn't easily be recognized by Windows, and was also a bit confused by the questions regarding mount points, etc., that Linux was asking. I'll plan on creating it from Linux rather than Windows, then, and will read up on what I need to know coming in from that angle. In all the years I spent on the Windows side of things, from my 286 BBS'ing box on up through my current XP Pro install, I /never/ had to reinstall an OS, or partition a drive, etc., so this is all very new to me. Linux is forcing me to learn more about what I probably should've been "up" on years ago. :-) Thanks again. -- Chuck Mattsen ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Mahnomen, MN Registered Linux User #346519 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Mandrdake 9.2 and Atapi Zipdrive
Information gleaned from running dmesg reveals that Mandrake 9.2 reads my hdc (CDrom) and hdd (Atapi Zip drive) through "scsi host adapter emulation". Does this mean that I cannot have the zipdrive recognized directly for what it is, namely a non-scsi drive? I'm trying to find out why my zipdrive runs so incredibly slow. Any help much appreciated. Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie]
On Wednesday 24 March 2004 11:11 am, Chuck Mattsen wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 04:08, Anne Wilson wrote: > > - From the PM point of view, create your fat32 partition for data > > immediately after the ntfs partition - you could do this from XP > > instead, I think. For the rest of the drive just ignore it in PM. > > Okay, that's where the free space is, and where the FAT32 partition will > be. My question where that is concerned is that if I create another > "primary drive" (e.g., "F:"), would that in any way affect my dual-boot > status if it's just going to be used for data accessible to both > systems? Not sure that I am following this question entirely, but just to mention a possible issue. You can only have one primary partition per hard drive. All other partitions under windows need to be created as extended partitions split into whatever logical drives you want. Logical drives don't need to follow any particular convention, at least not for XP, they can be lettered in any way and the order is not dependent. (For instance, you can have a D: drive that appears physically before the C: drive on a disk. But, if you create a second primary partition, it will either be hidden or it will take the place of the first primary partition. If you are creating additional drives within already defined space, then hopefully, the primary partition only extends to the first drive on the disk and subsequent space is already included in the extended partition. Personally, if I were going to create an additional FAT32 partition for sharing, I would create the partition with Linux. Windows should have no problem seeing and letting you use the partition and even assigning a drive letter to it. Partition Magic allows you to do some things that you shouldn't do in the interest of allowing experts to do things like creating hidden mirror partitions on a drive, etc. The added benefit to this is that diskdrake won't allow you to create multiple primary partitions and short of deleting an existing partition, shouldn't harm your windows partition in any way. At least, not in my experience. I have, however, managed to take out a Windows installation more than once using PM, nothing that couldn't be recovered but it was a hassle. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Windows bigger than the screen
Dear All Some windows are bigger than the screen, what causes problems with accessing the OK button. Is there any trick to overcome this difficulty? Thank you a lot in advance! Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie]
On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 04:08, Anne Wilson wrote: > - From the PM point of view, create your fat32 partition for data > immediately after the ntfs partition - you could do this from XP > instead, I think. For the rest of the drive just ignore it in PM. Okay, that's where the free space is, and where the FAT32 partition will be. My question where that is concerned is that if I create another "primary drive" (e.g., "F:"), would that in any way affect my dual-boot status if it's just going to be used for data accessible to both systems? I'm paranoid at that point because the "Are you sure?" prompt from the program seems to foretell dire consequences, and makes it sound (to me) that creating it thusly would kill kittens and mangle baby ducks, not to mention screwing with my extant XP and MDK setups :-) Otherwise, I'm currently happy with the size of my XP primary and MDK/Linux partitions. All I want is one, single data partition out of that free space, and that mostly for convenient access from both OS'es ... I spent /way/ too much time in DOS and Windows on meager systems (20MB HD, then 100MB HD, then a 500MB drive DriveSpace'd to approx. 1 Gig, etc., so I'm quite the miser when it comes to disk space otherwise :-), and just want to stash music and graphics there, really. TIA -- Chuck Mattsen ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Mahnomen, MN Registered Linux User #346519 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] (no subject)
Hey all, I have just recently gotten a 10 community system up an running and have a question about groups and permissions/software installs. When I add software as a user it works ok, but when I add it as root I then have trouble using it as user. I was having trouble with xmms- it would play fine as root, but would start and then choke as user. I assumed it was permissions, they were already rwx for all, so I changed xmms to my user group. Still chokes, is it then a sound driver issue- does my user need different sound privileges? Thanks, Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10 CE Shutdown
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 24 March 2004 01:11 am, Margot wrote: Thanks Charlie, I'll give the new kernel a try once I can get my internet connection to stay up long enough to download the file! I have an 'unlimited' monthly-paid dialup package, but each session is supposedly time-limited to 2 hours - and unfortunately, I frequently get dropped well before the 2 hour limit. I can redial immediately of course, but that doesn't help when I'm trying to download a file the size of a kernel :-( Meanwhile, what does the extra 'S' stand for? Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly So Boring? An extra sync just before unmounting the filesystems and rebooting. It's the way I first learned the shutdown procedure "raising skinny elephants is sometimes utterly boring" R S E I S U B Margot There's an even newer version available just now. 17.6 MB's, should be about one hour on a 56K dialup. I don't know if Thomas' site supports resume. http://www.iki.fi/tmb/Cooker/kernel-tmb-2.6.4-1.tmb.3mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm http://www.iki.fi/tmb/Cooker/kernel-tmb-2.6.4-1.tmb.3mdk-1-1mdk.nosrc.rpm ... here is the changelog * Tue Mar 23 12:00:00 2004 Thomas Backlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.6.4-1.tmb.3mdk - fix specfile rm -rf for ppc(64) and missing 'asm-' in *x86* includes * thanks to Danny for reporting this - remove orinoco 0.14alpha2 patch, it's to buggy at this stage... - drop lirc patch MD07, as it's merged in the updated MD05 - fix ZS99 menu-cleanups patch to actually allow ppc builds (Danny) - new ppc(64) configs (Danny) - map sysrq to powerbutton on power and ibooks (Danny) - acpi 20040311 (Svetljo) - update packet writing support (Svetljo) - support ITE it8212 RAID chip (Svetljo) Thanks Tom - I'll give it a try and see what I get. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cdrecord errors
On Tuesday 23 March 2004 05:32 pm, RichardA wrote: > > /usr/bin/cdrecord: Operation not permitted: WARNING: Cannot > > set RR-scheduler > > /usr/bin/cdrecord: Permission denied: WARNING: Cannot set > > priority using setpriority() > > /usr/bin/cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for > > buffer underruns. > > > > Google says to check suid on cdrecord, but it's already set. > > Never mind, the CDs are fine -- I'm installing 10.0 from them > now. I'd still like to know what the errors are, though. They are warnings, not errors. The author of cdrecord is known to be a little outspoken. He's got'a bit of a grudge against kernel.org. Under 10.0/2.6.x, you'll probly also see a "using badly designed ATA" (or somethin like that). Just ignore 'em. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] They needed to do a study?
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 00:25:20 -0800 Erylon Hines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Add weedsonly.cf, backhair.cf and chickenpox.cf to your /etc/Mail/spamassassin > Catches most all the spam. Set your Bayes to trigger on 4.0. Lately, the Where can I get those .cf files and how do I incorporate them? -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10 CE Shutdown
On Wednesday 24 March 2004 01:11 am, Margot wrote: > Thanks Charlie, I'll give the new kernel a try once I can get > my internet connection to stay up long enough to download the > file! I have an 'unlimited' monthly-paid dialup package, but > each session is supposedly time-limited to 2 hours - and > unfortunately, I frequently get dropped well before the 2 hour > limit. I can redial immediately of course, but that doesn't > help when I'm trying to download a file the size of a kernel > :-( > > Meanwhile, what does the extra 'S' stand for? > Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly So Boring? An extra sync just before unmounting the filesystems and rebooting. It's the way I first learned the shutdown procedure "raising skinny elephants is sometimes utterly boring" R S E I S U B > Margot There's an even newer version available just now. 17.6 MB's, should be about one hour on a 56K dialup. I don't know if Thomas' site supports resume. http://www.iki.fi/tmb/Cooker/kernel-tmb-2.6.4-1.tmb.3mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm http://www.iki.fi/tmb/Cooker/kernel-tmb-2.6.4-1.tmb.3mdk-1-1mdk.nosrc.rpm ... here is the changelog * Tue Mar 23 12:00:00 2004 Thomas Backlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.6.4-1.tmb.3mdk - fix specfile rm -rf for ppc(64) and missing 'asm-' in *x86* includes * thanks to Danny for reporting this - remove orinoco 0.14alpha2 patch, it's to buggy at this stage... - drop lirc patch MD07, as it's merged in the updated MD05 - fix ZS99 menu-cleanups patch to actually allow ppc builds (Danny) - new ppc(64) configs (Danny) - map sysrq to powerbutton on power and ibooks (Danny) - acpi 20040311 (Svetljo) - update packet writing support (Svetljo) - support ITE it8212 RAID chip (Svetljo) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Gateway BURN IN HELL!! RANT Kind of long
Marc wrote: I suspect that if I dig around the Intel web site that I may find one to work. Even though the information at the intel web site says that if it is a board that they made for a OEM they will offer NO support. Marc Seems like your best chance. Odds on bet that Intel know about the bios gateway supply, and to some extent are embarrassed by it. I suspect that Intel will have a bios upgrade that works to eliminate the gateway crap bios. I bet the board is a fairly standard Intel board and can be given a better bios programme. Anyway if this were my board I would go and ask Intell what is the best bios they have for this board, and you need to make sure that they have details of exactly the make model and serial number of your board. You can try downloading a few inteligent guesses but you will have to have experience with installing and retrieving bios update situations to play with them. If you do , buy yourself a spare bios chip, they don't cost much and install your new experimental bioses onto that first, that way you only have to swap the original back to be back running again. I did this recently, and learnt how to do this so it's not difficult really. A bit scary first off, but I should of bought my spare chip first, you can buy them from websites. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Monitor in sleep mode.
Dan Gordon wrote: I think I'm just going to not worry about this any longer. Regards, Dan Gordon Yes, either, -blank [0-60] or, -powerdown [0-60] not sure which, sets the powerdown(or powersave) to however many minutes) between 0 and 60 minutes. and that's it. If you want screen save go to kde and set that there. Anyhow that's how I understand it. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Gateway BURN IN HELL!! RANT Kind of long
Well, first thing, what chipset is it? what northbridge/southbridge chips.. Start by comparing that to existing intel boards.. find out if intel has any docs on those boards and linux on their site.. just a thought. rgds Franki Marc wrote: On Tuesday 23 March 2004 09:05 pm, Lee Wiggers wrote: On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:24:41 -0500 Carroll Grigsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tuesday 23 March 2004 11:03 am, William Warren wrote: just from this post..it works with windows and not with Linux..Bioses can be tied to windows and as part of the MS OEM license that is what most large computer vendors do to get the rock bottom pricing on windows. Gateway only supports windows and they do not and will not support Linux on that machine. The warranty states no third party software or hardware is not supported and will not be supported by gateway. Dell and most other vendors have similar clauses in their warranty agreements...they will not and do not have to replace anything if it will run under windows. the court case will go nowhere if the case is based on the machines inability to run Linux. FWIW, a brief search of Gateway's site led to over 100 how-to's related to installing Red Hat and Suse on their products, which suggests that Gateway has an awareness of Linux. I'm not familiar with the Gateway product line, so that it is quite possible that the references are to servers only. Marc, you might want to spend some time poking around on the Gateway site. -- cmg I've been somewhat half-assed following this thread, so feel free to slap me around if I missed it. Has anyone asked Gateway for specific help? Vendors are getting better about Linux support. Next year they'll be kissing up to us. You could be a trend starter. Lee Yep I have spent a couple of hours on the phone to gateway and the actual owner of the machine has spent even more time than that. Bottom line they do not have a bios update for this machine and no one at gateway seems willing to get one. Some Gateway employes have tried to insist that ML 10.0 does not have the correct drivers for this MOBO and that is the problem. THAT IS NOT the problem! Other employes at gateway tried to claim that if it runs windoze there is not a hardware problem. I have dug around the gateway website and there IS NOT a bios update avalible for this mobo but I suspect that if I dig around the Intel web site that I may find one to work. Even though the information at the intel web site says that if it is a board that they made for a OEM they will offer NO support. Marc Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com -- rgds Frank Hauptle (aka Franki) For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl & PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com Free web developer resources. Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Gateway BURN IN HELL!! RANT Kind of long
On Tuesday 23 March 2004 09:05 pm, Lee Wiggers wrote: > On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:24:41 -0500 > > Carroll Grigsby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 23 March 2004 11:03 am, William Warren wrote: > > > just from this post..it works with windows and not with > > > Linux..Bioses can be tied to windows and as part of the MS OEM > > > license that is what most large computer vendors do to get the > > > rock bottom pricing on windows. Gateway only supports windows > > > and they do not and will not support Linux on that machine. The > > > warranty states no third party software or hardware is not > > > supported and will not be supported by gateway. Dell and most > > > other vendors have similar clauses in their warranty > > > agreements...they will not and do not have to replace anything > > > if it will run under windows. the court case will go nowhere if > > > the case is based on the machines inability to run Linux. > > > > FWIW, a brief search of Gateway's site led to over 100 how-to's > > related to installing Red Hat and Suse on their products, which > > suggests that Gateway has an awareness of Linux. I'm not familiar > > with the Gateway product line, so that it is quite possible that > > the references are to servers only. Marc, you might want to spend > > some time poking around on the Gateway site. > > > > -- cmg > > I've been somewhat half-assed following this thread, so feel free to > slap me around if I missed it. > > Has anyone asked Gateway for specific help? Vendors are getting > better about Linux support. Next year they'll be kissing up to us. > > You could be a trend starter. > > Lee Yep I have spent a couple of hours on the phone to gateway and the actual owner of the machine has spent even more time than that. Bottom line they do not have a bios update for this machine and no one at gateway seems willing to get one. Some Gateway employes have tried to insist that ML 10.0 does not have the correct drivers for this MOBO and that is the problem. THAT IS NOT the problem! Other employes at gateway tried to claim that if it runs windoze there is not a hardware problem. I have dug around the gateway website and there IS NOT a bios update avalible for this mobo but I suspect that if I dig around the Intel web site that I may find one to work. Even though the information at the intel web site says that if it is a board that they made for a OEM they will offer NO support. Marc Marc -- Composed on a 100% Microsoft and windows free computer using Mandrake Linux 10.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Monitor in sleep mode.
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 07:23:30 -0500 Dan Gordon wrote: > On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:44:28 + > John Richard Smith wrote: > > > The choices in setterm seem to be, > > > > [ -powersave [on | vsync | hsync | powerdown | off] ] > > which I took to mean, > > powersave on with Verticle and horizontal syncronisation and > > powerdown off.[ -powerdown [0-60] ] > > this sets the time in minutes to elapse before powerdown > > [ -blank [0-60] ] > > I'm not sure what this does. > > > > So from the above info it seems to me there is no powersave off > > option. It's there by virtue of being a component of the energy > > saving CRT monitor. So, while the parameters of the powersave and > > powerdown can be altered in so much as the timescale is within > > limits, there is, in my judgement, no option to switch powersave > > off. Correct me if I am wrong. > > > > Seems to be the case, and -blank 0 or -powerdown 0 had no effect > either. I'm beginning to think it a issue with xscreensaver. I can set > the time to blank to 0, power down to 0 and such from there then > deselect the power saving opton but it still seems to work. If i set > the time to the max amount i think it is 1440 or something then > deselect power saving it takes that long to blank and power down. I'm > going to install a newer version and see if that does anything. > Thats not right, 1440 is 24 hours, its not waiting that long. hummm. I think I'm just going to not worry about this any longer. Regards, Dan Gordon -- Wed Mar 24 07:34:57 EST 2004 07:34:57 up 1 day, 19:50, 1 user, load average: 0.05, 0.11, 0.05 Worst Month of 1981 for Downhill Skiing: August. The lift lines are the shortest, though. -- Steve Rubenstein Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Monitor in sleep mode.
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:44:28 + John Richard Smith wrote: > The choices in setterm seem to be, > > [ -powersave [on | vsync | hsync | powerdown | off] ] > which I took to mean, > powersave on with Verticle and horizontal syncronisation and powerdown > off.[ -powerdown [0-60] ] > this sets the time in minutes to elapse before powerdown > [ -blank [0-60] ] > I'm not sure what this does. > > So from the above info it seems to me there is no powersave off > option. It's there by virtue of being a component of the energy saving > CRT monitor. So, while the parameters of the powersave and powerdown > can be altered in so much as the timescale is within limits, there is > , in my judgement, no option to switch powersave off. Correct me if I > am wrong. > Seems to be the case, and -blank 0 or -powerdown 0 had no effect either. I'm beginning to think it a issue with xscreensaver. I can set the time to blank to 0, power down to 0 and such from there then deselect the power saving opton but it still seems to work. If i set the time to the max amount i think it is 1440 or something then deselect power saving it takes that long to blank and power down. I'm going to install a newer version and see if that does anything. Regards, Dan Gordon -- Wed Mar 24 07:12:28 EST 2004 07:12:28 up 1 day, 19:28, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.02 Politics, like religion, hold up the torches of matrydom to the reformers of error. -- Thomas Jefferson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] pnp monitor
I changed the monitor on a MDK91 system, and the system still retains name of old monitor - both monitors are pnp. Shouldn't the system detect the change and update config? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Monitor in sleep mode.
Dan Gordon wrote: On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 09:51:48 -0500 Dan Gordon wrote: Maybe setterm -powersave off Thanks will let you know if this works setterm -powersave off gave me this "cannot (un)set powersave mode" so i tried setterm -blank 0 and setterm -powerdown 0 no errors so i will see what happens. Regards, Dan Gordon The choices in setterm seem to be, [ -powersave [on | vsync | hsync | powerdown | off] ] which I took to mean, powersave on with Verticle and horizontal syncronisation and powerdown off. [ -powerdown [0-60] ] this sets the time in minutes to elapse before powerdown [ -blank [0-60] ] I'm not sure what this does. So from the above info it seems to me there is no powersave off option. It's there by virtue of being a component of the energy saving CRT monitor. So, while the parameters of the powersave and powerdown can be altered in so much as the timescale is within limits, there is , in my judgement, no option to switch powersave off. Correct me if I am wrong. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
