Re: [newbie] Firefox and Thunderbird aren't playing nice!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Amy wrote: [...] | Both programs do the same thing, they act like they're loading up, then | poof, all gone. [...] | However, I figured I'd run it past you guys and see | if anyone had any ideas if there was something else I could check on to | see about fixing instead. | | Let me know if there's any other information you guys might need in | order to help me. Otherwise I'll just wait and see if it'll fix itself | in a few days with updates. There's been a thread on the Cooker list about problems with 0.7 and 0.9 Thunderbird and Firefox, respectively ... seems many are having problems. Some have reported that running either/both of them as root first has solved the non-start problem; others have suggested removing the profile(s) -- still others reported that neither of the above have helped them. Can't speak to either upgrade personally, as I've held off after seeing others' difficulties with them. I'll wait, and that would be my suggestion (beyond trying the run-as-root method, since it's nondestructive :-). - -- Chuck MATTSEN / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Mahnomen, MN / RLU #346519 Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-9mdk MT Lookup: http://eot.com/~mattsen/mtsearch.htm - -- Random Thought/Quote for this Message: ~ Dear Auntie Em, ~ Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFA3rVY+qbiwggubBwRAncWAKCFlWAE+iycPaPZJE7wCw4zjvqvYQCeLOF8 pSyoY/A+7AN8jIKeX88m2cM= =ykII -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mirror recommendations for urpmi?
Amy wrote: Okay, so my friend has me running a cooker install of Mandrake, architecture i586, and I need reliable mirrors. I've used http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php to set up my mirrors so far, but the ones I pick seem to either be really super slow, or really weird about how they update their files leaving me with missing files that it tells me I should be able to install, or having some files updated, but files that are also needed due to dependencies (like perl!) being older and not correct for what I'm installing and/or updating. I was hoping that you guys might be able to recommend some mirrors for me to try? I'm located in the SF bay area, CA, USA, so if possible, something close to me would be best, but I'll make due with something farther away if the mirror is reliable about being updated correctly. I suspect that the problem I'm having with firefox and thunderbird (separate thread posted for that) has something to do with files they depend on not being updated at the same time as they were. Thanks in advance! ^_^ Amy, as you're running cooker, many people here and on the expert list won't be able to help you with your problems because they won't be experiencing the same problems you're having. I suggest you subscribe to the cooker mailing list (http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3) and lurk there for a while - you can't expect much in the way of tech support from the cooker list, it isn't designed for that, but at least you'll be able to keep an eye on the bug reports and fixes, some of which may be relevant to your situation. When selecting mirrors, it makes no difference where you live - you just need to find one that works for you. The proxad mirrors in France are generally reliable, but of course if everybody starts using a particular mirror it will get slower for everyone! Good luck! Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Firefox and Thunderbird aren't playing nice!
Op Sun, 27 Jun 2004 06:54:01 -0500 schreef Chuck MATTSEN: There's been a thread on the Cooker list about problems with 0.7 and 0.9 Thunderbird and Firefox, respectively ... seems many are having problems. I have not encountered the 'run as root only' problem. I did upgrade to firefox 0.9 (binary tar from Moz site) and found that it brings problems that are not with 0.8 (that came with MDK10), so I went back to 0.8. 0.8 lets me open a new tab when I click a URL from Sylpheed. 0.9 complains that F'fox is already running. And both are run through the same 'launchbrowser' script which checks if an instance of the browser is already running. Beats me... I already dropped Thunderbird after 0.4 because every new release brought new problems and lost functionality, upto where I could not really use it anymore (too bad, I liked it). Firefox still 0.8 plays nice. I hope they fix the problem I encountered with 0.9. Otherwise I will be back with Netscape, or try my luck with the latest Opera. Paul -- Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws. - Amschel Mayer Rothschild, banker http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.htm Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mirror recommendations for urpmi?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Margot wrote: | When selecting mirrors, it makes no difference where you live - you just | need to find one that works for you. The proxad mirrors in France are | generally reliable, but of course if everybody starts using a particular | mirror it will get slower for everyone! The proxad mirrors are what I've been using, and they've proven quite reliable, but many of the others are, too (FWIW, I've had the most trouble with U.S. mirrors). Check out the current status of cooker mirrors here: http://home.skycon.net/~junfan/cookermirrors.php I suspect, however, that your Thunderbird and Firefox problems are likely due to problems inherent in those upgrade packages based on the threads there of late. You can check the Cooker archives just as you do those for newbie or expert; go to: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerr=1w=2 [On an unrelated note, but I believe it was you who had shared the problems with messages from Oozy crashing TB, I've found that if I right click the folder, select Properties, and then check the box to apply the listed encoding (Western in my case) to all messages in the folder TB no longer crashes on those messages. I just had another one crash TB this morning (not from Oozy, but someone else using the Windows '1256' charset), and this seemed to fix it.] - -- Chuck MATTSEN / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Mahnomen, MN / RLU #346519 Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-9mdk MT Lookup: http://eot.com/~mattsen/mtsearch.htm - -- Random Thought/Quote for this Message: ~ With every passing hour our solar system comes forty-three thousand miles closer to globular cluster 13 in the constellation Hercules, and still there are some misfits who continue to insist that there is no such thing as progress. -- Ransom K. Ferm -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFA3rwC+qbiwggubBwRAu9rAJ4tp7zrP8mkz2GaD3w/cxV0wcNpRwCZAfZ0 vq7Jg7cnEzT8VrzBw/7CkmE= =n37A -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Share Mail Linux/W98 - T'Bird 0.7
Hi! I want to be able to share my mail/profile between W98 and Mdk 10.0 version of Thunderbird 0.7. I followed the procedure found at http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/share_mail.html and succeeded,in Mdk, to be able to read the details of each of the accounts used in W98. But I can not get access to the folders in each account and to the folders in Local Folders Can anyone help resolve this? Thanks Preston -- Betti Ann Preston Smith, Head of St Margaret's Bay, NS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1962 MGA 1600 MK II, 1980 MGB Limited Edition 2002 Damon Challenger 335 Motor Home/2001 Ford V-10 20,500 lb chassis Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Firefox and Thunderbird aren't playing nice!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul wrote: | Op Sun, 27 Jun 2004 06:54:01 -0500 schreef Chuck MATTSEN: | |There's been a thread on the Cooker list about problems with 0.7 and |0.9 Thunderbird and Firefox, respectively ... seems many are having |problems. | | I have not encountered the 'run as root only' problem. Actually, it's a run _first_ as root thing. :-) I suspect it's a matter of folder permissions and creation at play. | I already dropped Thunderbird after 0.4 because every new release | brought new problems and lost functionality, upto where I could not | really use it anymore (too bad, I liked it). Firefox still 0.8 plays | nice. I hope they fix the problem I encountered with 0.9. Otherwise I | will be back with Netscape, or try my luck with the latest Opera. I love Thunderbird, but the upgrade difficulties often encountered -- as well as the difficulties with the /chrome folder with respect to extensions and upgrading _them_ (often requiring deletion of the folder and RE-installing all of the extensions, sometimes as user, sometimes as root, sometimes in the profile, sometimes not, blah, blah, blah), can be a real pain in the behind, agreed. Nevertheless, I still love Thunderbird. If Sylpheed (and/or claws) would only be a little less butt-ugly :-), and provide better HTML support (unlikely to happen, it seems), I'd switch in a heartbeat. - -- Chuck MATTSEN / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Mahnomen, MN / RLU #346519 Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-9mdk MT Lookup: http://eot.com/~mattsen/mtsearch.htm Random Thought/Quote for this Message: ~ What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFA3r1d+qbiwggubBwRAha7AJ4gBCxK2dtKITgPmwT01jFAgzZkRACfTahU 6h8rQqnqZLVgm2UlpZ2TuHI= =ylOs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Hostname
Where are the hostname and domainname stored in Mandrake (9.2)? I tried to edit file /etc/hosts butnothing changed, even after rebooting . Thanks. -- Piero Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problems here.
On Saturday 26 June 2004 06:36 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: -Ron, did you try swapping out the ram? Sometimes windows will run on faulty -ram but linux does not. Been there before. HTH Nope - not sure I have any extra Ram of that spec for his machine - of course I could try any Ram as long as the MB accepts it, right? I guess I could do the clean the contacts and reseat ritual while I'm at it as well. Thanks for the suggestion. -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problems here.
On Saturday 26 June 2004 06:45 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: -Has there been a windows update, say about 2 weeks ago? -You might want to do an erase disk and reinstall a mandrake system. Hmm, we've got fast cable-modem service here, but I don't think *I've* updated it in a while. I'll have to ask my son if he did (13 yr old - still asleep). Thanks. -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hostname
Op Sun, 27 Jun 2004 14:38:33 +0200 schreef Piero: Where are the hostname and domainname stored in Mandrake (9.2)? I tried to edit file /etc/hosts butnothing changed, even after rebooting . Thanks. Try /etc/sysconfig/network. Paul -- Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws. - Amschel Mayer Rothschild, banker http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.htm Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problems here.
On Saturday 26 June 2004 06:41 pm, Dan Gordon wrote: -I would definitely try another hard drive first, thats what it sounds like to -me. I just bought a brand spanking new P4 3ghz 512mb ram 120 gb hard drive -several months ago, within the first week the hard drive went very similer -simtoms., they dont make em like they used to :-( - -Regards, -Dan Gordon I forgot to mention in my first post that I'm running Reiserfs on it, and I did a: reiserfsck --check /dev/hdaX on all partitions. It did find 2 files on /dev/hda5 that were pointing to nothing apparently. I did a: reiserfsck --fix-fixable /dev/hda5 on it and it seemed to fix it. When I ran reiserfsck with the --check option again though - they showed up again. So I did a: reiserfsck --rebuild-sb /dev/hda5 (I eventually did this on 6, 7, 8, and 9) followed by: reiserfsck --rebuild-tree /dev/hdaX (all the above) It *seemed* to fix everything but whenever I tried to reboot or use 10.0 or 9.2 install disks for a rescue I still get the same messages. :-( Thanks for replying. PS They sure don't make'em like they used to - I had one of those infamous IBM Deskstar models that failed in like 3-6 months (remember the infamous memo saying these drives aren't really meant to run 24 hrs a day or somesuch?). -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problems here.
Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Saturday 26 June 2004 06:36 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: -Ron, did you try swapping out the ram? Sometimes windows will run on faulty -ram but linux does not. Been there before. HTH Nope - not sure I have any extra Ram of that spec for his machine - of course I could try any Ram as long as the MB accepts it, right? I guess I could do the clean the contacts and reseat ritual while I'm at it as well. Thanks for the suggestion. Ronald; Windows is renown for their so-called memory manager and it is often the reason for system crashes. Due to the way it operates, it could easily be quite some time before a flaw in your RAM could have been missed. If one module of RAM on a single stick is defective or was damaged by an electrical surge, your son's system could have continued to operate for some time until that exact module or memory address was accessed by Windows. In comparison, Linux essentially grabs and manages all/most of your reported ram on bootup and controls it dynamically. This is only one of many reasons why Linux is considerably more stable. It also explains why Linux could have failed long before Windows did. It would be a bit if a stretch, but certainly not impossible. You should be able to do a Google for Memtest86 and download a bootable floppy version of it. Then you can boot from the floppy and determine for yourself if this is your actual problem. Also, you should be able to grab hard drive diagnostics programs from Maxtor/Quantum and/or Seagate. If your drive is a Maxtor or Quantum, they have a nice ISO file you can download which includes extensive diagnostics and additional tools, which you can then burn to a bootable CD. Either scenario (bad hard drive or RAM)sounds possible, so it might be worth your while to determine exactly which is causing the problem before you start replacing parts. HTH Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problems here.
On Sunday 27 June 2004 09:10 am, Lanman wrote: -Ronald; Windows is renown for their so-called memory manager and it is -often the reason for system crashes. Due to the way it operates, it -could easily be quite some time before a flaw in your RAM could have -been missed. If one module of RAM on a single stick is defective or was -damaged by an electrical surge, your son's system could have continued -to operate for some time until that exact module or memory address was -accessed by Windows. Windows is *renowned* for a lot of things, isn't it? :-) -In comparison, Linux essentially grabs and manages all/most of your -reported ram on bootup and controls it dynamically. This is only one of -many reasons why Linux is considerably more stable. - -It also explains why Linux could have failed long before Windows did. It -would be a bit if a stretch, but certainly not impossible. You should be -able to do a Google for Memtest86 and download a bootable floppy version -of it. Then you can boot from the floppy and determine for yourself if -this is your actual problem. - -Also, you should be able to grab hard drive diagnostics programs from -Maxtor/Quantum and/or Seagate. If your drive is a Maxtor or Quantum, -they have a nice ISO file you can download which includes extensive -diagnostics and additional tools, which you can then burn to a bootable CD. - -Either scenario (bad hard drive or RAM)sounds possible, so it might be -worth your while to determine exactly which is causing the problem -before you start replacing parts. - -HTH - -Lanman Thanks Lanman, I'll give it all a try. -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake OT
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 08:48:23 +0100 Margot disseminated the following: Come and join us - we need new blood ;-) ...very misleading Margot; when you say the list needs 'new blood', you should clarify that you are speaking *literally*. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 09:19:55 up 9 days, 14:43, 7 users, load average: 1.81, 1.79, 1.60 +++ I believe what I said yesterday ... I don't know what I said, er, but I know what I think, and ... well, I assume it's what I said. -- Donald Rumsfeld Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake OT
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 02:22:51 -0400 Dan Gordon disseminated the following: Have not seen it yet, but thanks Carroll I'm now subscribed. I'll pray for you. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org 09:22:03 up 9 days, 14:45, 7 users, load average: 2.10, 1.90, 1.66 +++ Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding. -- John Kenneth Galbraith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Change Owner
How can I change an owner of drive, dir, or file Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] firefox 0.9 moved my cheese
The move to firefox 0.9 was a bad idea. I downloaded the .tar.gz from mozilla.org. Besides much of the UI and shortcuts being different, now my script to open links in a new tab if there's a running window is broken. In fact, I can't even get the -remote to work at all: it does not recognize that there is a running window at all. On the upside, I can just call firefox and get a new window without the complaints of the profile manager, but that kind of defeats the purpose (for me) of tab functionality. Anybody else have this problem and a solution? Todd -- Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like it's from Neptune. -Noam Chomsky Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Change Owner
On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 04:50:37PM +0300, EE wrote: How can I change an owner of drive, dir, or file chown user.group file man chown for more. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Change Owner
Op Sun, 27 Jun 2004 16:50:37 +0300 schreef EE: How can I change an owner of drive, dir, or file see man chown (CHange OWNer) -- Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws. - Amschel Mayer Rothschild, banker http://www.nlpagan.net/linux.htm Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Change Owner
On Sunday 27 June 2004 08:50, EE wrote: How can I change an owner of drive, dir, or file chown filename. I doubt you can change the owner of the HD that contains the system. -- Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] firefox 0.9 moved my cheese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 09:41:14 -0400 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The move to firefox 0.9 was a bad idea. I downloaded the .tar.gz from mozilla.org. Besides much of the UI and shortcuts being different, now my script to open links in a new tab if there's a running window is broken. In fact, I can't even get the -remote to work at all: it does not recognize that there is a running window at all. On the upside, I can just call firefox and get a new window without the complaints of the profile manager, but that kind of defeats the purpose(for me) of tab functionality. Anybody else have this problem and a solution? Hi Todd, do you mean something like this .. it was on the cooker list yesterday .. subject was : Re: [Cooker] -remote open of pages with Mozilla-Firefox 0.9 failure(SOLVED) mozilla-firefox -a firefox -remote 'openURL(%s,new-window)' (no space after openURL and no spaces in %s,new-window HTH RickS +--+ MandrakeLinux 10.0 official - 2.6.3-14mdk-i686-up-4GB gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 +--+ Don't stop to stomp ants when the elephants are stampeding. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA3t8DJo/ckCSqvmERAqAQAJ9pwhwfxlkm1DbS24CLpG181GPazwCgwlRB 3TmPA6S80RLh90GdaN6mRTY= =vARD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] firefox 0.9 moved my cheese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 09:41:14 -0400 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The move to firefox 0.9 was a bad idea. I downloaded the .tar.gz from mozilla.org. Besides much of the UI and shortcuts being different, now my script to open links in a new tab if there's a running window is broken. In fact, I can't even get the -remote to work at all: it does not recognize that there is a running window at all. On the upside, I can just call firefox and get a new window without the complaints of the profile manager, but that kind of defeats the purpose(for me) of tab functionality. Anybody else have this problem and a solution? Sorry the last line was supposed to be: mozilla-firefox -a firefox -remote 'openURL(%s,new-window)' (no space after openURL and no spaces in %s,new-window I got auto-wrapped ... g RickS +--+ MandrakeLinux 10.0 official - 2.6.3-14mdk-i686-up-4GB gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.keyserver.net 0x24AABE61 +--+ You can never tell which way the train went by looking at the tracks. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA3t91Jo/ckCSqvmERAi/sAKCHVqDnj2yZceWS3vrDaMJobhEodgCeOWeL QkAuQ0S3s4fA+TfDXJXdTiw= =pX/v -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] firefox 0.9 moved my cheese
On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 10:53:41AM -0400, RickS wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 09:41:14 -0400 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The move to firefox 0.9 was a bad idea. I downloaded the .tar.gz from mozilla.org. Besides much of the UI and shortcuts being different, now my script to open links in a new tab if there's a running window is broken. In fact, I can't even get the -remote to work at all: it does not recognize that there is a running window at all. On the upside, I can just call firefox and get a new window without the complaints of the profile manager, but that kind of defeats the purpose(for me) of tab functionality. Anybody else have this problem and a solution? Sorry the last line was supposed to be: mozilla-firefox -a firefox -remote 'openURL(%s,new-window)' (no space after openURL and no spaces in %s,new-window I got auto-wrapped ... g Exactly! Just found it after a bit more googling. Thanks! Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Change Owner
Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Sunday 27 June 2004 08:50, EE wrote: How can I change an owner of drive, dir, or file chown filename. I doubt you can change the owner of the HD that contains the system. You can chown the device for the drive. But this is mainly usefully for removable drives. For mounted file systems, you have to change the options in /etc/fstab to change the owner. This is usefully for file systems that do not support file ownership. One thing to be aware of - msec will change back the ownership of some files/directories, depending on the security settings. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Mandrake 10.0 - How to configure Speedtouch 330 USB Modem??
Hi Mandrake 10.0 states that the Speedtouch 330 modem is certified hardware, but I keep getting the message that it only supports kernel version 2.4 above. I'm running 2.6, why do I get this message? If anyone can offer any advice about getting broadband access working I would be grateful!! Many Thanks Dave IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [newbie] weird df output
Frank wrote: Yeah, it is the way the kernel actually sees the drives or some such mumbo jumbo. So much simpler crunched the old way. Try: # fdisk -l [Note-as root] Regards Frank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 Eric Huff wrote: Did anyone ever come up with a solution to the screwy df output? /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part13 1.8G 1.2G 642M 66% /stuff I saw this go by way back when in 9.2, i ended up skipping 9.2. I did look thru the archive. I thought someone had a fix or script or something to make it look like it used to, but i couldn't find it. thanks, eric I'm starting to get used to the naming scheme, kinda wish it wasn't so long though :-) Heres a script I found in a forum post by Paul Morgan (I lost the original post). Might need some work to line things up a little but works ok. #!/bin/bash # Purpose: Convert devfs device names in df output to legacy device names # Invocation: mydf [DFOPTION]... [FILE] # where DFOPTION is an option associated with the df command. # author: paul morgan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 01/27/2004 IFS=X df $*|\ while read dfline ; do { echo $dfline|grep -q '^/dev/.*/host[0-9]/bus[0-9]/.*'; }\ eval dfline=$(find /dev -name 'hd*' -lname ${dfline#/dev/}) echo $dfline done I named it mydf made it executible and put it in my /home/user/bin. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Konqueror Error
Hello. I clicked on a URL shortcut created by Windows and Mandrake asked me what program to use and if i'd like to use it to open all similar files with this program. I selected Konqueror and checked yes. Now, every time i log in, between 20 and 40 instances of the program (konqueror) open. Help!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Wireless PCMCIA Card
On Tuesday 22 June 2004 22:41, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: I will probably get flamed for saying this, but the Microsoft MN-520 works with Mandrake 9.2, and I would think 10.0 I think it also works with XP. ;) On the other hand, it doesn't exactly work 'out of the box' in Linux. You have to add 3 lines to the pcmcia config file so that the proper driver is loaded for the card. If they have any left, Office Max was closing them out for less then $20. Mikkel Mikkel; I just ordered one of these from JR Music (no luck at Office Max). Can you provide a pointer to the proper install/configuration to make this card behave well (the 3 lines you mentioned, specifically g). TIA; Glenn -- 11:24:51 up 1 day, 2:14, running Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Official) for i586, kernel 2.6.3-7mdk Registered Linux user #324360 ... I see TOILET SEATS ... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] mouse wheel issue
Hello list, I have mouse a wheel problem. It won't scroll up or down. Here is the entry in the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device /dev/mouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection This should be working. Since it isn't working I have tried to configure it using the mouse section in the 'Configure your Computer menu-Hardware I have tried all of them listed and it only shows the mouse wheel moving in the down direction -- no matter whether I am scrolling up or down. The mouse is a standard two button mouse with scroll wheel. It is the mouse of an HP Pavilion a250y computer. No other brand markings are on it. Thanks, -Jason __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mirror recommendations for urpmi?
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 01:12:13 -0700 Amy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was hoping that you guys might be able to recommend some mirrors for me to try? I'm located in the SF bay area, CA, USA, so if possible, I'm also in the SF Bay area, but I've mostly used European mirrors, especially in the early evening. I get better results, usually, with those (although uninett.no has been busy lately) than I do with the domestic mirrors. I have 1.5 kbps DSL and I can get ca. 160 kbps downloads from some of those European mirrors. -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mouse wheel issue
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 10:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Jason Kretzer wrote: I have mouse a wheel problem. It won't scroll up or down. Here is the entry in the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device /dev/mouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection change /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux and your wheel should work /dev/mouse is a universal setting that is supposed to work with all ps2/usb units but as with most things there always prove to be exceptions which require usage of the explicit designation of psaux. Charles -- You have a strong appeal for members of the opposite sex. -- Mandrake Linux 10.0 on BigBoy #184142 Registered Linux user #182463 *http://www.eslrahc.com* 2.6.5-1.tmb.6mdkenterprise -- pgp4Zw32cGIOE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Mirror recommendations for urpmi?
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 05:44:08 -0500 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect you problem has more to do with cooker than the mirrors. It takes a chef to use cooker. OK. In that case, I am pretty good when it comes to whipping up a box of macaroni cheese. :) Regards; Hoyt -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mouse wheel issue
--- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 10:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Jason Kretzer wrote: I have mouse a wheel problem. It won't scroll up or down. Here is the entry in the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device /dev/mouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection change /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux and your wheel should work /dev/mouse is a universal setting that is supposed to work with all ps2/usb units but as with most things there always prove to be exceptions which require usage of the explicit designation of psaux. Charles Yes, that did it. Can't believe, I missed that... Thanks! -Jason __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] weird df output
Did anyone ever come up with a solution to the screwy df output? Heres a script I found in a forum post by Paul Morgan (I lost the original post). Might need some work to line things up a little but works ok. Cool, that's what i was looking for. thanks, eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] rosegarden - no sound
On Sunday 27 June 2004 05:49, David E. Fox wrote: On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:01:11 +0200 Frans Ketelaars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Playmidi -v says the -a option is for output to awe32 wave synth. If you have that card you have to load a soundfont with asfxload or sfxload from the awesfx rpm. These programs have manpages. I got the rpm, saw a sample sf2 file in /etc/midi, laoded it (I think) but still no output. According to lsmod the midi stuff seems to be enabled. I don't have an AWE32 - I've got a SB Live value. I don't remember needing this before in 9.2 and I'm pretty sure I had midi playback working in 9.2. (One clue is that playmidi by itself gives no devices fuond, playmidi -a seems to go through the motions of playing sounds, but nothing comes out the speakers. And I don't have a Gravis Ultrasound, I know that.) snip What does 'aconnect -o' say? And have you unmuted and raised the volume of something like synth in alsamixer? -Frans (puzzled) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] mouse wheel issue
Dnia nie 27. czerwca 2004 20:03, Charles A Edwards napisa: /dev/mouse is a universal setting that is supposed to work with all ps2/usb units but as with most things there always prove to be exceptions which require usage of the explicit designation of psaux. I have it set as /dev/mouse and scrolling works perfectly fine... though I have different Protocol set that Jason... btw. what does this Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 do?? I meant, what is it for? -- Cezary Morga ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) GG# 169903 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] weird df output
On Sunday 27 June 2004 02:37 pm, Eric Huff wrote: - Did anyone ever come up with a solution to the screwy df - output? - - Heres a script I found in a forum post by Paul Morgan (I lost the - original post). Might need some work to line things up a little - but works ok. - -Cool, that's what i was looking for. - -thanks, -eric Unless I'm mistaken, this doesn't even affect those of us who disable supermount. :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] partition suggestions?
I got a new hard drive today. (yay!) It is 160 GB Maxtor and I don't know how to chop it up. Currently I have a 40 GB: /dev/hda1 275 MB /boot /dev/hda5 6.44 GB / /dev/hda6 8.64 GB /usr /dev/hda7 400 MB swap /dev/hda8 11.06 GB/home /dev/hda9 10.49 GB/misc (partition for storing downloads, backups, and other random stuff) I would like to keep the same general partitioning scheme, but I don't know whether I should have it in so many pieces. If I just have a /boot, /, and a /misc, then everything can share in one large partition and I wouldn't have to worry about being low on space for one and tons of space on another. (my /home is tight on space, but my /usr has about 5 GB free) Sorry if this is confusing, but if anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate them... thanks, john Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Konqueror Error
have you tried saving your session once you've closed down all the extraneous windows? look in kconfigurationkdecomponentssession manager bascule On Sunday 27 Jun 2004 5:51 pm, Dmitri wrote: Hello. I clicked on a URL shortcut created by Windows and Mandrake asked me what program to use and if i'd like to use it to open all similar files with this program. I selected Konqueror and checked yes. Now, every time i log in, between 20 and 40 instances of the program (konqueror) open. Help!! -- `Ford, you're turning into a penguin. Stop it.' -- Arthur experiences the improbability drive at work. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Lame mp3x
I've found the lame-mp3x package along with lame's rpm. What is it? -- Cezary Morga ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) GG# 169903 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Purchase enquiry
On Sat, 2004-06-26 at 11:26, David E. Fox wrote: On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 17:50:52 -0400 Terence Golightly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Dave, For what it's worth, I've had very good use from a Toshiba SD-1312 combo DVD/CD-RW drive. Thanks for the input. I'll check it out. Terry Terry Golightly ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Pittsburgh, Pa Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Official) for i586 kernel 2.6.3-14mdk-i686-up-4GB 14:49:57 up 2:13, 2 users, load average: 0.21, 0.11, 0.13 One cannot make an omelette without breaking eggs -- but it is amazing how many eggs one can break without making a decent omelette. -- Professor Charles P. Issawi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Additional drivers floppy
I am trying to install Mandrake 10.0 Official in a Toshiba laptop and the installation program asks me to insert the Additional Drivers Floppy. Where do I get it?, or what does it mean? Teilhard - This mail sent through CWMail: http://www.crosswinds.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Additional drivers floppy
I am trying to install Mandrake 10.0 Official in a Toshiba laptop and the installation program asks me to insert the Additional Drivers Floppy. Where do I get it?, or what does it mean? Teilhard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Sorry ...
... for the duplicate message (winblows). Teilhard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Installing OS 10.0 Problem
I've run into the same problem continuously when trying to install 10.0. Here's the situation: Downloaded ISO img of mandrake 10.0 disk 1 and burnt to disk. Restarted computer with cd in drive and it boots into the installer. A few seconds into the install (right after it finishes detecting the USB devices) when it tries to install/make a ramdisk, i get the following error: Command error= 0x51 4 end request: I/O error, dev hde, sector 1351356 Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 337827 The numbers vary after sector and logical block, but the error is respectively identical every time. After a while, in the graphic interface, an error box pops up stating that there may be a hardware problem or a bug in linux. I've tried downloading a new copy of the ISO img and tried that and the same thing happened. Then i downloaded a copy of the ISO off of a different server and it happened again; same place, same problem, same error. I've tried burning the ISO in mandrake and windows. No matter what, i get that same error and the install stops in the same place. Dmitri Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Inspiron 500m
Has anybody installed Mandrake 9.2 on a Dell Inspiron 500 m? Are there known problems? Are there known solutions? Thanks -- Piero Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Additional drivers floppy
Teilhard Knight wrote: I am trying to install Mandrake 10.0 Official in a Toshiba laptop and the installation program asks me to insert the Additional Drivers Floppy. Where do I get it?, or what does it mean? Teilhard At a guess, I would say it is asking if you have a floppy containing additional drivers needed for your specific hardware. I believe you can click cancel or skip at that screen, and continue with the install. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Installing OS 10.0 Problem
Dmitri wrote: I've run into the same problem continuously when trying to install 10.0. Here's the situation: Downloaded ISO img of mandrake 10.0 disk 1 and burnt to disk. Restarted computer with cd in drive and it boots into the installer. A few seconds into the install (right after it finishes detecting the USB devices) when it tries to install/make a ramdisk, i get the following error: Command error= 0x51 4 end request: I/O error, dev hde, sector 1351356 Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 337827 The numbers vary after sector and logical block, but the error is respectively identical every time. After a while, in the graphic interface, an error box pops up stating that there may be a hardware problem or a bug in linux. I've tried downloading a new copy of the ISO img and tried that and the same thing happened. Then i downloaded a copy of the ISO off of a different server and it happened again; same place, same problem, same error. I've tried burning the ISO in mandrake and windows. No matter what, i get that same error and the install stops in the same place. Dmitri Try cleaning your CD-ROM drive. If that doesn't work, try burning the CD at a slower speed. It sounds like the image you have downloaded is ok, but the drive is having a hard time reading the CD you have burned. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lame mp3x
Cezary Morga wrote: I've found the lame-mp3x package along with lame's rpm. What is it? Try rpm -qpi package name. At a guess, I would say it is a mp3 encoder. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?
John Drouhard wrote: I got a new hard drive today. (yay!) It is 160 GB Maxtor and I don't know how to chop it up. Currently I have a 40 GB: /dev/hda1275 MB/boot /dev/hda56.44 GB/ /dev/hda68.64 GB/usr /dev/hda7400 MBswap /dev/hda811.06 GB/home /dev/hda910.49 GB/misc (partition for storing downloads, backups, and other random stuff) I would like to keep the same general partitioning scheme, but I don't know whether I should have it in so many pieces. If I just have a /boot, /, and a /misc, then everything can share in one large partition and I wouldn't have to worry about being low on space for one and tons of space on another. (my /home is tight on space, but my /usr has about 5 GB free) Sorry if this is confusing, but if anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate them... With 160GB, it doesn't really matter how you chop it up, you'll still have loads of room. I'd put a bit more into /usr just in case you want to install some new application larger than anything yet known, and divide the rest between /home and /misc. You might want to have another partition for /etc (I'm told this means you can do an install without scratching your existing settings, but I've never tried it). Sir Robin -- Time is an illusion - lunch time doubly so. - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 02:02:44 -0400 robin wrote: You might want to have another partition for /etc No, do not do that. The configuration files in /etc must be avaiable during boot and should always remain as part of / Charles -- You cannot use your friends and have them too. - Mandrake Linux 10.1 on PurpleDragon 2.6.5-1.tmb.6mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgpXSUNYn4Oxx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Wireless PCMCIA Card
Glenn wrote: On Tuesday 22 June 2004 22:41, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: I will probably get flamed for saying this, but the Microsoft MN-520 works with Mandrake 9.2, and I would think 10.0 I think it also works with XP. ;) On the other hand, it doesn't exactly work 'out of the box' in Linux. You have to add 3 lines to the pcmcia config file so that the proper driver is loaded for the card. If they have any left, Office Max was closing them out for less then $20. Mikkel Mikkel; I just ordered one of these from JR Music (no luck at Office Max). Can you provide a pointer to the proper install/configuration to make this card behave well (the 3 lines you mentioned, specifically g). TIA; Glenn In /etc/pcmcia/config, in the Wireless network adapters section, add: card Microsoft Wireless Notebook Adapter MN-520 1.0.3 version Microsoft, Wireless Notebook Adapter MN-520, , 1.0.3 bind orinoco_cs The system will then find the card, and the normal wireless configuration tools will work. I am only working with one access point for now, so I have not played with any of the scripts that will manage the setting for more then one. I do have the card working with 40 bit encription, and I will play with 128 bit encription one of these days. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Wireless PCMCIA Card
On Sunday 27 June 2004 17:23, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Glenn wrote: In /etc/pcmcia/config, in the Wireless network adapters section, add: card Microsoft Wireless Notebook Adapter MN-520 1.0.3 version Microsoft, Wireless Notebook Adapter MN-520, , 1.0.3 bind orinoco_cs The system will then find the card, and the normal wireless configuration tools will work. I am only working with one access point for now, so I have not played with any of the scripts that will manage the setting for more then one. I do have the card working with 40 bit encription, and I will play with 128 bit encription one of these days. Mikkel Great. Thanks for the info, Mikkel. Can't wait to try this out. I gave up on trying to get my U.S. Robotics card working long ago. -- 17:54:32 up 1 day, 8:43, running Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Official) for i586, kernel 2.6.3-7mdk Registered Linux user #324360 This is the story of the bee Whose sex is very hard to see You cannot tell the he from the she But she can tell, and so can he The little bee is never still She has no time to take the pill And that is why, in times like these There are so many sons of bees. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?
Charles A Edwards wrote: On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 02:02:44 -0400 robin wrote: You might want to have another partition for /etc No, do not do that. The configuration files in /etc must be avaiable during boot and should always remain as part of / Charles Normaly, you need /bin, /sbin, and /etc all on the root partition. It is also a good idea to have /root there. There are ways around having /etc in the root partition, but they usualy are not worth the trouble, unless you are doing something like booting a diskless workstation, or running off a CD. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] remote login delay
After I upgraded to 10 from 9.2, telneting to my Mandrake became somewhat problematic. I have to wait for like 10 seconds before it sends me the login prompt. This is happening for ssh as well. How could I tweak it Levent Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] partition suggestions?
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 18:30:51 -0500 Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles A Edwards wrote: On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 02:02:44 -0400 robin wrote: You might want to have another partition for /etc No, do not do that. The configuration files in /etc must be avaiable during boot and should always remain as part of / Charles Normaly, you need /bin, /sbin, and /etc all on the root partition. It is also a good idea to have /root there. There are ways around having /etc in the root partition, but they usualy are not worth the trouble, unless you are doing something like booting a diskless workstation, or running off a CD. Mikkel Ok, this is what I was thinking: /boot 500 MB / 15 GB /usr25 GB swap400 MB /home 35 GB /misc 84 GB That will give me enough room to rip a few dvd's and still have plenty of room on my home partition :-). Does this look good? john Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com