Re: [newbie] OT Apologys
On Wednesday 22 September 2004 9:22 pm, aron Smith wrote: Hate to bring it up but i have another system dual booting Mandrake 10.0 and windows 2000 the display 180 X 1024 in linux is great (jetway 17 LC monitor) the best resolution I can get in Win$ux is 800 X600 is there a Generaic driver out there I can use ? If so what is the name so I can chase it down? I hate to say it, but there is one known solution to all Windoze problems. As root type rm -Rf Winsnooze partition replacing Winsnooze Partition with the actual folder it is mounted in. :-) Couldn't resist. -- Linux Desktop user since 2000, Home networker since shortly after. Linux User #183693 http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Permissions
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:06:40 +0200 Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can somebody please advice me with this problem? I have three fat32 partitions mounted in /windows/c /windows/d and /windows/e directories i can with any user write/read these partitions. I cannot however use a program called azureus to download to these partitions as it give me a file creation fault. however it does create the file but with a 0kb file size. I can download to my home dir but space is limited. Thanks Alan ** Just a thought. /windows/d and /windows/e directories .. probably just data partitions. Could convert /windows/e to ext 3 after cleaning it out. If large enough you could save your /home dir with rsync (need a script just ask) to it daily or just before logging off. If it is larger than your excisting /home dir/partition you could move your home partiton to this after doing the neccessary before logging off. Johan -- Johan Sch Registered Linux User #330034 May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:21:28 -0400 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone had any luck getting OpenGroupware to work? I've been beating this thing to death for the last several days with no luck whatsoever. The packages are available from the Contribs list, and they install without a problem, but no amount of reading the documentation, following the install procedures or wading through the mail archives on their site has helped. What amazes me is how the installation of something like OpenGroupware can be this difficult or complicated. Surely, with the power and flexibility of Linux and Open-Sourced software, this shouldn't be a problem? After all, what's the sense of wasting time to create Mandrake RPMs for something that simply doesn't work? If anyone has some helpful advice on how to get this thing working, I'd appreciate any help you can offer. For reference sake, I've tried setting it up on Mandrake 9.2 and 10.0 using Apache 1.3 and 2.0.50 with no luck at all. I'm either seeing blank pages when I try to browse to the initial page (which is used to complete configurations and is the default page when OpenGroupware is first launched), or I'm getting connection errors from the server I've installed it on. Apache is working fine, since it's serving other non-related pages without any errors or problems, and PostGreSQL builds the database for OpenGroupware without a problem. TIA -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 I have been holding this waiting for someone to respond. Guess this means that nobody has made it work, me included. The service is running, but I haven't a clue what to do next. (It's been running since last year sometime. Lee -- My new address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Current address will not work after December. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
Lee Wiggers wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:21:28 -0400 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone had any luck getting OpenGroupware to work? I've been beating this thing to death for the last several days with no luck whatsoever. The packages are available from the Contribs list, and they install without a problem, but no amount of reading the documentation, following the install procedures or wading through the mail archives on their site has helped. What amazes me is how the installation of something like OpenGroupware can be this difficult or complicated. Surely, with the power and flexibility of Linux and Open-Sourced software, this shouldn't be a problem? After all, what's the sense of wasting time to create Mandrake RPMs for something that simply doesn't work? If anyone has some helpful advice on how to get this thing working, I'd appreciate any help you can offer. For reference sake, I've tried setting it up on Mandrake 9.2 and 10.0 using Apache 1.3 and 2.0.50 with no luck at all. I'm either seeing blank pages when I try to browse to the initial page (which is used to complete configurations and is the default page when OpenGroupware is first launched), or I'm getting connection errors from the server I've installed it on. Apache is working fine, since it's serving other non-related pages without any errors or problems, and PostGreSQL builds the database for OpenGroupware without a problem. TIA -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 I have been holding this waiting for someone to respond. Guess this means that nobody has made it work, me included. The service is running, but I haven't a clue what to do next. (It's been running since last year sometime. Lee Thanks for replying Lee. I've gone ahead and installed Red Hat 9.0 on the system ear-marked for OpenGroupware in the hopes that I can get it to work today. I'll report back if I have any success. Like I said in my previous post, I fail to see why anyone would bother to make and include the RPM's for something that can't be installed easily. If Linux is going to make a bigger dent in the world, it's going to have to fix this type of problem. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT Apologys
On Wednesday 22 September 2004 11:20 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Wednesday 22 September 2004 9:22 pm, aron Smith wrote: Hate to bring it up but i have another system dual booting Mandrake 10.0 and windows 2000 the display 180 X 1024 in linux is great (jetway 17 LC monitor) the best resolution I can get in Win$ux is 800 X600 is there a Generaic driver out there I can use ? If so what is the name so I can chase it down? I hate to say it, but there is one known solution to all Windoze problems. As root type rm -Rf Winsnooze partition replacing Winsnooze Partition with the actual folder it is mounted in. :-) Couldn't resist. Feel that way myself but need winblows for my gps Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
On Thursday 23 September 2004 06:59, Lanman wrote: If Linux is going to make a bigger dent in the world, it's going to have to fix this type of problem. GRRR. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] TV/FM tunner
HI sorry for taking that much time to reply I got the information from Hardrake Vendor: Brooktree Corporation Bus: PCI Bus identification: 109e:878 Location on the bus: 2:3:1 Description: Bt878 Module: btaudio Media class: MULTIMEDIA_OTHER And what is written in the cathalogue is Kworld tv tunnner ,cideo capture Card Mmodel BG+DK FM Remote Conexaant 878A thank you very much guys for helping Best regards, On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 07:07:16 -0700, Sevatio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What brand and model is the tuner card? Kassem Nasser wrote: Hi all I have a tvfm tuner card and I am not able to configure neither the fm nor the TV. ca someone help me to stop using windows to listen to FM I did not write further details because I was not sure that the message will succeed, Best Regards. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com -- --Kassem Nasser-- Kassem Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED] American University of Beirut [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.O.Box 11 -0236/5253 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Riad El Solh Beirut: 1107 2020 WS:www.students.aub.edu.lb\~kmn01 Lebanon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] normalizing mp3 files across directories
On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 06:44:01PM +, PM wrote: I generally use normalize to standardise the volumes of mp3 files, but this will only work with one directory at a time. I want to transfer a collection of mp3 files in many directories to a DVD to play via DVD player. Has anybody any pointers as to how I might achieve this? pm You should just be able to point to all of your directories from the command line, such as normalize -m /path/to/dir1/*.wav /path/to/dir2/*.wav You might even be able to put all of the directories in a text file and do something like normalize -m `cat directorylist` You might even be able to automatically generate the directory list with something like find /path/to/start/looking -type d -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 2 directorylist (then you'd have to add /*.wav to the end) Or, just recurse a top level directory to find all the wav's with something like find /top/level -type f -iname '*.wav' and use those results as input to normalize. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
I do agree with most of Bryan is saying... what I think is the problem, is that open source software is Hyped to work the same or better than commercial software. that is where the frustration comes from. On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 12:32, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Thursday 23 September 2004 10:58, Lanman wrote: Thanks Brian, but I've tried that script file about 10 times, I've used parts of the file at least 4 or 5 times, and it's only worked partially. I've also found 5 different sets of instructions written for Mandrake and Redhat (take your pick of version numbers), and each time had different results. Given that someone wrote it and it appears to work for them, you might consider it a starting point and go through it line by line to see what they are doing in the script and then try to apply it to your installation. I know that is a lengthy process, however, there probably is a quicker way and that is to hire someone who has done it before and have them do it. If you go the cheap route, you should be prepared to expend some time and effort on it. I don't mind trying to help out where I can but if I need to tell someone exactly what to do, step by step, I am probably going to be sending them an invoice after the fact. Others here might not feel the same way. If I were already using the package and you were asking for assistance with specific problems that I thought I could help with, I would try to help. If you waltz in and say, I can't get something to work, can someone give me exact instructions to make it work in my environment, with my installed software, telling me exactly what to do, my first impulse is to turn on the timer for my hourly bill rate. My earlier comments about ease of installation refer to the fact that the installation instructions on the pages your mentioned are not written in a logical order, and the scripts don't fully complete a workable installation. I am not running OGO, however, my understanding is that it is an enterprise level package that provides a large amount of functionality with many components and tying to a large variety of background archictectures. My expectation for such a package, especially one as new as OGO would be that it would require some effort to integrate it into any particular environment. If your needs are not so complex to warrant the use of such a package, there are other options available. If your needs are such that you do need such a complex package, you should be prepared to spend the time necessary to get it to work. Another option would be to buy a package, pay for support and get someone to do it for you. As an example, they don't check to see if PostGreSQl is installed, don't create the database or add the user to PostGreSQL or for that matter don't detect and finsh configuration of Apache. They mention that Postgresql can be used as well as other types of SQL databases. So, they don't assume postgresql on the off chance that you want to use something else. The small part of installation instructions that I read indicate that you must install postgresql and create the database separately, or provide some other database. Detecting which version of Apache, 2 or 1.3 and then properly configuring it including creating virtual directory entries, setting access and getting past whatever security (within Apache) you have or would desire would on the surface, appear to be complex too. Add in whether you are going to do purely SSL access or allow open http access. Throw in the diverse number of environments, flavors of Linux, security, etc. and I can totally understand why a script that someone wrote for themselves might not be totally working for you out of the box. That may sound like a lot, but I've seen other install scripts work for effectively, such as the ones for webmin, macromedia flash, and adobe's acrobat reader. Even the installers for ATI and NVidia drivers are a bit more friendly than this one. Funny you mention that, since the most recent release of Nvidia drivers installation script doesn't work with Mandrake. And install scripts for Microsoft Exchange might be easier than ogo as well. That is very much totally beside the point. You are not working with those packages or those developers, you are working with ogo. I totally understand someone getting frustrated when something doesn't work. I also understand someone REQUESTING help. What I do not accept is the tone that one takes when they EXPECT something to work or that if it doesn't work for them, then there is something wrong with Linux or Open Source. Linux requires more effort than something that you buy from someone. That is the nature of it. Comparing a free product that was given to you with a product that earned the authors millions of dollars in revenue is simply not a material comparison. Give me money
Re: [newbie] normalizing mp3 files across directories
On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 12:27 -0400, Todd Slater wrote: You should just be able to point to all of your directories from the command line, such as normalize -m /path/to/dir1/*.wav /path/to/dir2/*.wav You might even be able to put all of the directories in a text file and do something like normalize -m `cat directorylist` You might even be able to automatically generate the directory list with something like find /path/to/start/looking -type d -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 2 directorylist (then you'd have to add /*.wav to the end) Or, just recurse a top level directory to find all the wav's with something like find /top/level -type f -iname '*.wav' and use those results as input to normalize. Todd many thanks for the tips pm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT Apologys
aron Smith wrote: On Wednesday 22 September 2004 11:20 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Wednesday 22 September 2004 9:22 pm, aron Smith wrote: Hate to bring it up but i have another system dual booting Mandrake 10.0 and windows 2000 the display 180 X 1024 in linux is great (jetway 17 LC monitor) the best resolution I can get in Win$ux is 800 X600 is there a Generaic driver out there I can use ? If so what is the name so I can chase it down? I would think the Plug and Play monitor driver should work for you. I had a 15 tft, and it used that driver, gave me 1024x768. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] cpu and memory demand under dvd write
I've succeeded in writing my first dvd, not problems all went well. I used k3b. I've been thinking about the way some people report write errors off to media. Could it be a device buffer/HD problem. I know you can increase the HD buffer. I thought I would just test how the write is effected with a heavy interrupt. This is what I found in TOP, mkisofs 2.7% , growisofs 1.1% , k3b 0.1% for cpu usage k3b 4.6% memory Now that isn't much cpu usage, so no query there, but as soon as you launch some big app, I chose Mozilla, all those cpu figues drop dramatically,for a short while, before leveling out back where they were. That means every time you launch of an app it causes data flow to be slowed up initially. I'm guessing that that may cause problems, especially if you consider that with so little device buffer memory and a constant stream of data needed to keep up with the data write it may cause problems with buffer underruns. If this is correct then the answer would be to have a decent sized buffer of data stored on the harddrive, or not to launch apps during a write. In otherwards don't cause an hefty interrupts demand to cause a slow down in cpu output. My dvd write took 13 minutes to write 4gigs to disk which equals about 5Mb/sec Modern drives seem to have only 2MB of buffer. So it seems to be all down to the HD to store a pool of data and try to even out the flow. Anyhow I decided to increase k3b's buffer to 8MB from 2MB, I see no harm in doing that. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
On Thursday 23 September 2004 12:57, Scott Rineer wrote: I do agree with most of Bryan is saying... what I think is the problem, is that open source software is Hyped to work the same or better than commercial software. that is where the frustration comes from. Well, in point of fact, it does work the same and often better than commercial software, it just isn't as simple and easy. Saying that something is better is not the same as saying that it is equivalent in every characteristic and feature. I don't know where anyone else is hearing their hype but where I hear mine from, it has never been saying that Linux is as easy as Windows/Mac/etc. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT Apologys
aron, I currently am using nothing but macroshaft. I use 98 and have a Display adapter that is Intel 740. It is listed on the disc for 98 and NT. It allows for the higher resolution on my machine. Do not know if it is compatible with 2000. If you think it would be, email me and I will send you the file. It is a shock when I reformat and have to start up on the wonderful default stuff that comes with 98. Just about enough to make your eyes bleed until this "adapter" is installed. The best I can do then is 640 x 480. Tom aron Smith wrote: On Wednesday 22 September 2004 11:20 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Wednesday 22 September 2004 9:22 pm, aron Smith wrote: Hate to bring it up but i have another system dual booting Mandrake 10.0 and windows 2000 the display 180 X 1024 in linux is great (jetway 17 LC monitor) the best resolution I can get in Win$ux is 800 X600 is there a Generaic driver out there I can use ? If so what is the name so I can chase it down? I hate to say it, but there is one known solution to all Windoze problems. As root type rm -Rf "Winsnooze partition" replacing Winsnooze Partition with the actual folder it is mounted in. :-) Couldn't resist. Feel that way myself but need winblows for my gps Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Permissions
I would love to do that but I am running windows and have to share the hard disks. c d and e are seperate disks. If there is another file system I can use I won't mind changing I just thought FAt32 was the way to go. Alan On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:52:02 +0200, Johan Sch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:06:40 +0200 Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can somebody please advice me with this problem? I have three fat32 partitions mounted in /windows/c /windows/d and /windows/e directories i can with any user write/read these partitions. I cannot however use a program called azureus to download to these partitions as it give me a file creation fault. however it does create the file but with a 0kb file size. I can download to my home dir but space is limited. Thanks Alan ** Just a thought. /windows/d and /windows/e directories .. probably just data partitions. Could convert /windows/e to ext 3 after cleaning it out. If large enough you could save your /home dir with rsync (need a script just ask) to it daily or just before logging off. If it is larger than your excisting /home dir/partition you could move your home partiton to this after doing the neccessary before logging off. Johan -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
Bryan, Feel free to get as annoyed as you want, but I beg to differ on some of your points of view. Still, I respect the fact that you have a right to them, and I'm not saying that mine is better than yours but consider this,... snip Bryan Phinney wrote: Given that someone wrote it and it appears to work for them, you might consider it a starting point and go through it line by line to see what they are doing in the script and then try to apply it to your installation. I know that is a lengthy process, however, there probably is a quicker way and that is to hire someone who has done it before and have them do it. If you go the cheap route, you should be prepared to expend some time and effort on it. I find that many times, scripts are written from the personal point of view. That is, from the perspective of a person who has done several installs of a program, and has prepared the system in advance. Many things which would normally be included in a script file, are omitted on purpose - since the person writing the script didn't need it for their own install (assuming that their database or apache config had already been completed), or by accident simply due to the fact that the script writer felt that anyone using the script would have already done these preparations. I can think of a multitude of other reasons, all of which would point to the human-factor. I don't mind trying to help out where I can but if I need to tell someone exactly what to do, step by step, I am probably going to be sending them an invoice after the fact. Others here might not feel the same way. If I were already using the package and you were asking for assistance with specific problems that I thought I could help with, I would try to help. If you waltz in and say, I can't get something to work, can someone give me exact instructions to make it work in my environment, with my installed software, telling me exactly what to do, my first impulse is to turn on the timer for my hourly bill rate. You can count me into the Others category here. Helping others is one of the way that my company contributes back to the Linux community. I make it the responsibility of every employee to contribute something, even though I'm the one paying their salaries while they're out helping on a volunteer basis. They select the person or persons or groups they will assist and we allot a salary incentive to those staff members who can track and vouch for that time. When I waltz in and ask for help, I'm not asking for a lecture or perspective on whether or not the help is billable or not. I've taken hours and days out of my time to help others on this list (past and present), and will continue to do so in the future. For me, it's not always a question of money. If you're curious, I'd be willing to send you a short list of some of the most recent times I've helped others. Fortunately for both of us, I wasn't saying I can't get something to work, can someone give me exact instructions to make it work in my environment, with my installed software, telling me exactly what to do, I was asking if anyone had managed to get it working in Mandrake and whether they could help or not. If you need a reminder of that, I'll be happy to re-post my original message. My earlier comments about ease of installation refer to the fact that the installation instructions on the pages your mentioned are not written in a logical order, and the scripts don't fully complete a workable installation. I am not running OGO, however, my understanding is that it is an enterprise level package that provides a large amount of functionality with many components and tying to a large variety of background archictectures. My expectation for such a package, especially one as new as OGO would be that it would require some effort to integrate it into any particular environment. If your needs are not so complex to warrant the use of such a package, there are other options available. If your needs are such that you do need such a complex package, you should be prepared to spend the time necessary to get it to work. Another option would be to buy a package, pay for support and get someone to do it for you. FYI, I consider 4 days sufficient time. However, like any smart consumer, I am not about to buy a package or pay for support for something that I haven't seen, and I would hope that you wouldn't either. All I've seen are a few screen shots which don't tell me whether or not the product is stable or flexible or how customizable it may be. As an example, they don't check to see if PostGreSQl is installed, don't create the database or add the user to PostGreSQL or for that matter don't detect and finsh configuration of Apache. They mention that Postgresql can be used as well as other types of SQL databases. So, they don't assume postgresql on the off chance that you want to use something else. The small part of installation
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
On Thursday 23 September 2004 22:25, Lanman wrote: The fact that OGO is either missing a clear and precise installation document or simply doesn't work without some significant step that seems to be missing, means it's not quite there yet. End of story. Lanman, I'm not a groupware user so I wouldn't know if it even worked or not. I did see that there was a d'loadable liveCD offered on their (ogo)website. Might be worth checking it out to see if it's a Mdk problem only or not...wouldn't be the first time mdk messed up. In the contribs I noticed that ogo was offered as a very modular download..which usually means you have to install all of them or learn to live with random unexplainable crashes or side effects. Similar to the KDE packages; One for all and all for one! heh:) -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Thursday 23 September 2004 22:25, Lanman wrote: The fact that OGO is either missing a clear and precise installation document or simply doesn't work without some significant step that seems to be missing, means it's not quite there yet. End of story. Lanman, I'm not a groupware user so I wouldn't know if it even worked or not. I did see that there was a d'loadable liveCD offered on their (ogo)website. Might be worth checking it out to see if it's a Mdk problem only or not...wouldn't be the first time mdk messed up. In the contribs I noticed that ogo was offered as a very modular download..which usually means you have to install all of them or learn to live with random unexplainable crashes or side effects. Similar to the KDE packages; One for all and all for one! heh:) HJ, Yeah, I made a point of installing all the packages. A lot of times dude. Sigh! However, I might try the LiveCD to see if I can grab the necessary configs from it or see if I've missed anything. That's the last option left at this point. Thanks for the info. I'm fairly sure it isn't an MDK problem, but I'm willing to give it one last shot. I'll let you know what I find out. In the meantime, I'm already evaluating EGroupware and PHProjekt both of which went in without a hitch. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
On Thursday 23 September 2004 16:25, Lanman wrote: Feel free to get as annoyed as you want, but I beg to differ on some of your points of view. Still, I respect the fact that you have a right to them, and I'm not saying that mine is better than yours but consider this,... Differences are what makes the world an interesting place. I find that many times, scripts are written from the personal point of view. That is, from the perspective of a person who has done several installs of a program, and has prepared the system in advance. Many things which would normally be included in a script file, are omitted on purpose - since the person writing the script didn't need it for their own install (assuming that their database or apache config had already been completed), or by accident simply due to the fact that the script writer felt that anyone using the script would have already done these preparations. I can think of a multitude of other reasons, all of which would point to the human-factor. We have nothing to disagree about here. Again, I was suggesting that the script be used as a guide. See their steps, figure out if something is missing and fill in the blanks. I always keep in mind that an RPM usually installs the necessary files but doesn't necessarily configure the environment. I have worked with a lot of packages so far that needed to be configured after I installed the RPM, I don't count on those to be one-stop installations. You can count me into the Others category here. Helping others is one of the way that my company contributes back to the Linux community. I make it the responsibility of every employee to contribute something, even though I'm the one paying their salaries while they're out helping on a volunteer basis. They select the person or persons or groups they will assist and we allot a salary incentive to those staff members who can track and vouch for that time. When I waltz in and ask for help, I'm not asking for a lecture or perspective on whether or not the help is billable or not. I've taken hours and days out of my time to help others on this list (past and present), and will continue to do so in the future. For me, it's not always a question of money. If you're curious, I'd be willing to send you a short list of some of the most recent times I've helped others. I don't really need one, and I am not questioning whether you have contributed or helped someone. I am questioning the tone of your second message that was basically, if I can't get this to work and no one helps me to get it working, then Gnu/Linux isn't insert FUD phrase here. First of all, whether ogo works or not is no reflection on Linux. Second, whether or not that particular package works for you is not a reflection of anything more than that that particular package is not working for you. I never fault anything else first before I fault myself. That said, I have often come out vigorously against people who have seemed to suggest that if they didn't get what they wanted, then somehow Linux was at fault and it was not worth bothering with. I still find the tone of such a suggestion infuriating. Fortunately for both of us, I wasn't saying I can't get something to work, can someone give me exact instructions to make it work in my environment, with my installed software, telling me exactly what to do, I was asking if anyone had managed to get it working in Mandrake and whether they could help or not. If you need a reminder of that, I'll be happy to re-post my original message. I remember the first message, and I will note that I did not GRRR until you posted your second one. Like I said in my previous post, I fail to see why anyone would bother to make and include the RPM's for something that can't be installed easily. If Linux is going to make a bigger dent in the world, it's going to have to fix this type of problem. FYI, I consider 4 days sufficient time. Well, you know your own levels of expertise better than do I. Usually, I get something working the first time and then calculate sufficient time in future against the baseline. For what it is worth, my first Linux installation/configuration took about 6 months before I got things working well enough that I felt comfortable dumping Windows entirely. YMMV. However, like any smart consumer, I am not about to buy a package or pay for support for something that I haven't seen, and I would hope that you wouldn't either. All I've seen are a few screen shots which don't tell me whether or not the product is stable or flexible or how customizable it may be. No, I probably wouldn't myself. Then again, I am not in need of an enterprise level groupware application and my understanding is that enterprises who are in that market do so all the time. Not that it is a good idea, mind you, but they do buy them sight unseen. However, for the record, the web site has an image of a
Re: [newbie] OT Apologys
On Thursday 23 September 2004 10:21 am, mike wrote: aron Smith wrote: On Wednesday 22 September 2004 11:20 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Wednesday 22 September 2004 9:22 pm, aron Smith wrote: Hate to bring it up but i have another system dual booting Mandrake 10.0 and windows 2000 the display 180 X 1024 in linux is great (jetway 17 LC monitor) the best resolution I can get in Win$ux is 800 X600 is there a Generaic driver out there I can use ? If so what is the name so I can chase it down? I would think the Plug and Play monitor driver should work for you. I had a 15 tft, and it used that driver, gave me 1024x768. I'll try it plug Pray ;-) Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OT Apologys
On Thursday 23 September 2004 12:37 pm, Tom Karen Pino wrote: aron, I currently am using nothing but macroshaft. I use 98 and have a Display adapter that is Intel 740. It is listed on the disc for 98 and NT. It allows for the higher resolution on my machine. Do not know if it is compatible with 2000. If you think it would be, email me and I will send you the file. It is a shock when I reformat and have to start up on the wonderful default stuff that comes with 98. Just about enough to make your eyes bleed until this adapter is installed. The best I can do then is 640 x 480. Tom snip Thanks i think I saw that on on the net I will research it if I can't find it I may take you up on the offer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Yet another MS threat
On Wednesday 22 September 2004 18:03, Stephen Kühn wrote: Oh heck, I was there when Joe just first got ON the list, and I'll be damned if I see him leave the list...never happens, mate... - agreed,,, but some have gotten more sparse with the verbage and more complete in the snipage. -- linux counter #167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
On Wednesday 22 September 2004 09:20 pm, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Hi All, Update on mouse problem. He reinstalled the system. Now the menu that drakconf brings up works. The mouse does not. Has error message. While loading shared library: libgpm.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory. What does he do now? Just call us ignernt, Tom try installing the gpm rpm and associated libraries . Urpmi should do it for you. HTH : ) -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Tv/FM Tuner
Hi I Have this same card and works fine although I did have to move from Alsa to OSS in order for my sound to work but that was more a motherboard issue than a tv tuner card issue. But if I can be of any assistance let me know and will try to help. One thing I did find was that when you go into Mandrake control center and then into hardware control was that you have to manually set the card to kworld KW-TV878RF and the tuner card to a phillips NTSC (FI1236, FM1236MK3 or FM1236F). Then enable radio support at the bottom. Hope this helps. Hank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] HTML
Hi, I know this question isn't related to Mandrake, but I was hoping some one might be able to point me in the direction of a good HTML editor? When I was using M$ I used Dream weaver so would favor something similar if possible? Clyde Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] [HAB] Can't go to https site with either Netscape, Firefox, Opera
Dears, Netscape, Firefox and Opera can't read any site that starts with HTTPS. They say The operation is timed out: This is true for Linux and Windows version of the above browsers. Unfortunately, IE has not problem to get HTTPS site. Can any one help? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 mouse lockup
This all sounds interesting. There are a couple of problems. Many of these problems are due to my ignerce. As in what is urpmi? I looked that up and am now really confused. However, Lorin seems to get something out of the fine info I am gleaning from you fine folks. This last caused confusion to both of us. Lorin has the advantage of a linux system (even if it doesn't seem to work right). He has installed "rpm drake" which sounds handy. He looked up gpm and rpm and seemed to understand that. It seems that the libgpm stuff was not installed because of a failure to auto detect his mouse. He thinks that he got it installed. The mouse still does not work and he seems to have screwed up the number key pad being used as the moving force for his cursor. He can figure that out I am sure. I do not think that the urpmi stuff will help him yet as he is not online as the modem has not been detected either and he wants to figure out the mouse problem first. I went to the "easy urpmi" site and can't understand what they ae talking about. Remember that I am using Win98 (be kind). What the devil do they mean by "type this in a console" (I can wrap my brain around the "as root" part). Console? Lorin is also getting a notice on loading that "loading default keymap failed". Does this have anything to do with the mouse problem or is it some other problem altogether? Your in ignerce, Tom Dennis Myers wrote: On Wednesday 22 September 2004 09:20 pm, Tom Karen Pino wrote: Hi All, Update on mouse problem. He reinstalled the system. Now the menu that drakconf brings up works. The mouse does not. Has error message. While loading shared library: libgpm.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory. What does he do now? Just call us ignernt, Tom try installing the gpm rpm and associated libraries . Urpmi should do it for you. HTH : ) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Strange diff check ?
I got this tonight when the nightly security check was done. Security Warning: the md5 checksum for one of your SUID files has changed, maybe an intruder modified one of these suid binary in order to put in a backdoor... - Checksum changed file : /usr/bin/lbp660 I looked at the file it looks like an unknown file, the general proterties says its an unknown file type but permisions says it is executable and ownership is user root and group system. Maybe its nothing but it kinda got the hair up on the back of my neck. Anyone seen this before ? Regards, Dan Gordon -- Fri Sep 24 00:19:20 EDT 2004 00:19:20 up 53 min, 1 user, load average: 0.36, 0.12, 0.10 A critic is a bundle of biases held loosely together by a sense of taste. -- Whitney Balliett Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [HAB] Can't go to https site with either Netscape, Firefox, Opera
On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 14:00, MyEE wrote: Dears, Netscape, Firefox and Opera can't read any site that starts with HTTPS. They say The operation is timed out: This is true for Linux and Windows version of the above browsers. Unfortunately, IE has not problem to get HTTPS site. Can any one help? You haven't given enough information to make a supposition upon the cause of the issue; I would suspect that your system has been hijacked or that your connection is not properly configured. -- stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Mandrake GNU/Linux 10.0 OE/Kernel 2.6.3-7/ No Viruses here. Were there fewer fools, knaves would starve. - Anonymous Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HTML
Hi, Hi When I was using M$ I used Dream weaver so would favor something similar if possible? Please check http://www.linux.org/apps/all/Development_tools/HTML_Editors.html for html editors. BTW, Quanta is my choice Dreamweaver and Flash for Linux ( CrossOver Office 2.1 ) Visit http://www.codeweavers.com/ for more info Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
