Re: [newbie] Spanish co.
Hear, hear. Kathleen Paul wrote: On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Denis Havlik wrote: Hi Folks, I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than flame-ing each other. If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often, spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers. I second that! Paul -- In a world without walls and fences who needs windows or gates? http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Spanish co.
Yay Eugene!! I did the same thing (Babelfish) but couldn't help either. Kathleen, who will put away the pom-poms and stop acting like a cheerleader now "Eugene C. Zesch" wrote: Denis Havlik wrote: Hi Folks, Amen, Denis You perfectly summarized my feelings on this. BTW, though I couldnt help with the question, Babelfish gave me a fairly clear idea of his question. A neat resource!! Gene I am really sorry to see such a flamethread over a guy who posted a question in spanish. So what? We are supposed to be a friendly bunch of linuxers, not a bunch of wicked old men who have nothing better to do than flame-ing each other. If you don't understand Spanish, ignore it, if you do answer the guy, and all are happy. If/when spanish questions start popping up very often, spanish people will get a separate list, just as germans, frenchs and italians already have. Relax. Don't be lusers. yours Denis
Re: [newbie] Spanish co.
dwyatt wrote: LOL! A message group on the Internet without flaming? Such a thing does not exist my friend. :) Just for the record, we're on a mailing list, not a Usenet group...and I would hope such a thing would exist. And in all actuality I didn't read a single intentional flame in the whole thread. The first guy just misunderstood (understandable, since the post wasn't in the lists' native tounge) the post for spam. Since then there has been not a single flame. There's been a lot of arguing, though. I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/ Kathleen
Re: [newbie] Spanish co.
Greg Stewart wrote: I'm going to post something on-topic again one of these days, I am. :/ Kathleen Thank you. :-) --Greg *blink* Ouch. I thought I was joking...making a comment about the number of off-topic posts recently, but apparently I wasn't. I've gotten email in the past leading me to think that people found my coments helpful, insightful, and funny, but it looks like it's time for me to unsub... Thanks for the tip. Kathleen
Re: [newbie] RE: Learning Linux?
*grin* They say you never forget your first time... Mark Weaver wrote: Aaaah yes...I remember the first message I sent with Linux. Twas almost like the first time I ... Well let's just say it was almost a religious experience. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, bascule wrote: feels good doesn't it? bascule By the way, this is my first post wiht linux ! Cheers, Carol^
Re: [newbie] Re: [newbie] Solicitar información
You're right. Perhaps he can understand English but not compose in it? I'd be willing to be that he posted to the lists in the languages he can understand, but wrote in his primary language. I guess that's spamming, but I have lots of empathy for newbies desperate for information. :/ I'm curious: is it against the rules for someone to post a request in a language other than the list language, looking for an answer in the list language? Kathleen "Austin L. Denyer" wrote: The mandrake lists are available in several different languages - you select which one when you subscribe via the website, although I did not see a Spanish one. I think the thing that irks most is that the guy states in his e-mail that he also speaks English and Italian. If he can speak English then why not POST in English? If his Italian is better than his English then there is an Italian version of this list... For the benefit of the others, it is NOT an advert - dwyatt is right. It actually says (loosely translated): = Newbie Group: I need to know if you could send to me or inform me which Web site I can download drivers from so that mandrake can boot in graphics mode. Linux does not recognize my graphics card. This is the Diamond VIPER II Z200. I hope that you can help me, since, if it is not possible I will not be able to run Linux on my computer. Thank you very much. Fernando Vasconcelos. My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: I can understand English and Italian == Regards, Ozz. No, it's not. It's open to anyone. Mandrake is a French distro, IIRC... what the heck buddy this is an english speaking news group and we dont like advertisements!
Re: [newbie] ISP
Er. No. I meant, is there a way (asking nicely) that _he_ could quote the message he was replying to. It was a polite request, not a plea for information... Didn't mean to confuse you. Kathleen Paul R wrote: Kathleen Dickason wrote: Is there a way you can quote which message you're replying to? This gets pretty confusing... Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: someone was acting clueless about something i asked, i was sarcastic he got pissed insulted me and well it went down hill from there How you do that depends on which email package your using. -paul r __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] penguin icons
I think it was a joke... Kathleen Goldenpi wrote: Where do neurons go in molocules? Could you be comfuseing neurons with nutrons. - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] penguin icons Larry Marshall wrote: Comment - We must be about due for a flame here - something about wasting bandwidth on reminiscing. Don't know what this has to do with penguin icons but I for one am certainly enjoying it, so please don't stop!! Well...first there was this dumb question I asked about penguins. Then there was my announcement that I had only two neurons. Then John insisted that I demonstrate it :-) Cheers --- Larry Aaah Larry, don't worry about it. We all run a few neurons shy of a whole molocule now and then. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496
Re: [newbie] Is there a C++ compiler somewhere?
g++ Mark Thurston wrote: I need to do some C++ programming and I would prefer to do this on a Linux machine, is there a C++ compiler and editor in Mandrake-Linux? I have Linux-Mandrake 7.1 complete. ThanksMark
Re: [newbie] Is there a C++ compiler somewhere?
Not necessarily. This library file (iostream.h) is missing from the Standard install of drake 7.1, though it does install with the Developer version. Kathleen Larry Marshall wrote: I tried the gcc, I actually used the command g++ at the command prompt and every time it gives me an error saying "iostream.h is not found." Is You must be real new to C++. You're going to have to read a wee bit to get things set up as it's beyond the ability of a conference like this to walk you from asking the question you've just asked to successfully programming in C++. The simple answer to your question is that iostream.h is the most basic of basic class groups in the C++ language. If you've got GNU C++ installed, this file exists on your machine. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] Is there a C++ compiler somewhere?
Of course, the *best* thing to do is to learn C instead of C++, thus obviating the need for iostream.h... *running away fast* Kathleen, who is learning C and liking it Digital Wokan wrote: Everyone seems to make it sound like you need to reinstall Mandrake and install it with the Developer option. This is NOT the case. I would use KFM and KPackage to find the library RPM's you need to install to put those development library files on your hard drive. KPackage has a tab for listing the files in the RPM before you select to install it. Try different lib*.rpm files until you've got the development packages installed that you need. Mark Thurston wrote: So what do I do to get the Developer version? To be quite honest, this is for a class that I am taking at school, we have to program in C++ on a Linux system, so yes I am very new at this and I can use all the help I can get. Thanks Mark - Original Message - From: "Romanator" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Is there a C++ compiler somewhere? Kathleen Dickason wrote: Not necessarily. This library file (iostream.h) is missing from the Standard install of drake 7.1, though it does install with the Developer version. Kathleen Larry Marshall wrote: I tried the gcc, I actually used the command g++ at the command prompt and every time it gives me an error saying "iostream.h is not found." Is You must be real new to C++. You're going to have to read a wee bit to get things set up as it's beyond the ability of a conference like this to walk you from asking the question you've just asked to successfully programming in C++. The simple answer to your question is that iostream.h is the most basic of basic class groups in the C++ language. If you've got GNU C++ installed, this file exists on your machine. Cheers --- Larry Developer install has it. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 -- Digital Wokan Tribal mage of the electronics age Guerilla Linux Warrior
Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(
YESYESYES I agree! Kathleen Mark Weaver wrote: naaah...it's just a real pain to use till you get used to it. Vi is much easier to learn than emacs. IMHO of course. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thought emac was for mac comps, maybe i read to much into names
Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(
Abe wrote: It cracks me up how everyone has suggested a different command line text editor. Vi, Emacs, Vim and Pico so far. Well, vi and vim are pretty much the same. I use vim. Jesus saves, Allah forgives, Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. *grins and shows off her cthulhu t-shirt* Aiee, I am posting nothing but fluff tonight. My brain is mush from playing being booted into Windows *yick* all day, playing Diablo... Kathleen the skeleton-basher
Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(
emacs is a text editor plus. vi is better. :) Kathleen is partisan, can you tell? patrick wrote: On Sat, 09 Sep 2000, you wrote: thought emac was for mac comps, maybe i read to much into names thats what i thought too
Re: [newbie] subscribe newbie
Goldenpi wrote: Did I say this earlier? Either this message was sent 3 times or the list is playing up again. Never post a background in a newsgroup or mailing list. HTML will not always be accepted, but it ususally will because so many people send it. But NEVER send a background. Anyway, It makes the text hard to read. You do realize that you were re-posting the background every time you replied? -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
[Fwd: [newbie] Modem Problems]
whups. meant this to go to the list. my bad! -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139 "Austin L. Denyer" wrote: I am also a fan of das blinkenlights. :) I even know what some of them are for, at least on my Modem Blaster. Scary! ;) LOL! I actually have the original "warning" that 'das blinkenlights' came from posted over my computer! I used to have it over my servers at work too... I'd better shut up now - our age is showing #;-D Regards, Ozz. Hehehehe. Go you! -- Kathleen Dickason, Ancient of Days Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] Modem Problems
I am also a fan of das blinkenlights. :) I even know what some of them are for, at least on my Modem Blaster. Scary! ;) Kathleen "John A. MacLaughlin" wrote: On Monday, September 04, 2000 7:36 PM, "Carroll Grigsby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] speaking of external modems wrote in part, . In addition to the guaranteed compatibility with any operating system, you get all those neat flashing lights. Those neat flashing lights are a lot of what I loved about my Hayes Smartmodem 300. Nowadays the only neat flashing lights I have are on my NICs. When you see me looking at them you may be sure I have run out of hair to pull out.
Re: [newbie] Another question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: suggestion go for the commitment! lol calm down take a deep breath realize that computers suck and waste your money and things only go right on pure freaking accident :) And yet we love them anyway! Kathleen, hugging her lil box which now has 128 meg RAM yay!
Re: [newbie] HELP! Linux stole my windows partition!!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: back up BACK UP BACK UP DIDNT YOUR MOTHER TEACH YOU ANYTHING! linux likes to total windows on an install that and you should make sure you are very careful installing with the options they give, i had to go with the auto install because if i hadnt then sianara windows No need to shout, nor to overgeneralize. Kathleen
Re: [newbie] LILO and Disk Geometry
The bootloader (GRand Unified Bootloader) that's packaged with drake 7.1. Works great, but watch your partitions when you install it. Kathleen "Samm, Martin (ELSLON)" wrote: cheers - found the bit about LILO, with the extra lba32 argument for lilo.conf. Whats 'Grub'? -Original Message- From: markOpoleO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 4:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] LILO and Disk Geometry I believe the newest LILO gets past that cylinder limit now...so does Grub markOpoleO - Original Message - From: "Samm, Martin (ELSLON)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 1:18 AM Subject: [newbie] LILO and Disk Geometry | just installed 7.1 over the weekend - all went well until the LILO | configuration. | | I have put it on a second Hard Drive, in the /dev/hdb6 partition partition, | only LILO complained that this was passed cylinder 1023, but allowed me to | continue. | | Now, when I boot all i get is 'LI', then nothing - I can't get to DOS or NT, | but I can boot to Linux from the floppy drive using the boot disk. | | The only plan I've come up with so far, is to repair NT from the Repair | disk, and then put Boot Magic on (luckily I have Partition Magic, which I | used to create the Linux partitions with in the first place) and hope that | it will allow me to boot okay. | | Any other idea? I'd much rather do a quick and simple fix to LILO, rather | thwan the above. | | Other than that, the installaton was a doddle! | | Martin Samm | Web Developer | BioMedNet Ltd ( http://www.biomednet.com ) | Elsevier Science London | Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Direct : 44 (0) 207 611 4319 | Office : 44 (0) 207 611 4000 | Fax : 44 (0) 207 611 4001 | |
Re: [newbie] LILO and Disk Geometry
patrick wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: grub = lilo replacement by mandrake! and what is the pupose of this replacement just curious You could always read the directions and find out. *evil grin* Kathleen
Re: [newbie] HELP! Linux stole my windows partition!!!
patrick wrote: Kathleen Dickason wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: back up BACK UP BACK UP DIDNT YOUR MOTHER TEACH YOU ANYTHING! linux likes to total windows on an install that and you should make sure you are very careful installing with the options they give, i had to go with the auto install because if i hadnt then sianara windows No need to shout, nor to overgeneralize. Kathleen yea, dint u momma teach u anthing..from Don Henley , his latest release :) Funny, I didn't remember the Linux lyric. Kathleen
Re: [newbie] HELP! Linux stole my windows partition!!!
Mark Weaver wrote: Kathleen Dickason wrote: Carroll Grigsby wrote: Kathleen Dickason wrote: patrick wrote: Kathleen Dickason wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: back up BACK UP BACK UP DIDNT YOUR MOTHER TEACH YOU ANYTHING! linux likes to total windows on an install that and you should make sure you are very careful installing with the options they give, i had to go with the auto install because if i hadnt then sianara windows No need to shout, nor to overgeneralize. Kathleen yea, dint u momma teach u anthing..from Don Henley , his latest release :) Funny, I didn't remember the Linux lyric. Kathleen The Linux lyric has the words, "RTFM", in it. ;) -- Carroll Grigsby HAHAHAHA :) -- Kathleen Dickason, not a BOFH...yet Registered Linux user #182139 Ok...I think I understand te BOFH, but what does RTFM mean? -- Mark Read The Frickin Manual. Usually another adjective is substituted, but this is an all-ages list 'n all. :) -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] problem with emacs
Chris Opp wrote: snip What do I need to do? Use vi. (SOMEONE was going to say it!) -- Kathleen Dickason, ducking and running Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [[newbie] Full Harddrive Warning]
Jaguar wrote: Hmmm another shortcoming of Linux:) when will it end My $0.02 worth Jaguar *blink* You expected it not to have *any*? How flattering! :) To the original poster: you can check the fullness of all mounted partitions at any time by typing "df" at a command line prompt. -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [Re: [newbie] Is this real? ]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message: From: kdm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Is this real? Date: 08/31/00 19:51:03 http://geraldholmes.freeyellow.com The funniest site I have been to in a long time. Created by someone with waaay too much spare time! How can you argue with a page that got the Fork in the Head award? This page made me laugh out loud. -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user)
Jeff Malka wrote: Well...maybe Linux isn't for everyone, but then no OS is for everyone, IMO. Choice is good... It is, but for an OS to survive it must attract and "keep" a sufficient audience, Otherwise it might have the same fate as OS/2 which is also an excellent multiuser stable OS. Do not ask why I am leaving OS/2, because I am not really, just learning a new OS and noting how it appears to a non programming guru. Well...that's a very different situation. OS/2 declined because IBM made a corporate decision to stop developing and supporting it, not because of any lack on its part. -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user)
"Austin L. Denyer" wrote: Jeff Malka wrote: Well...maybe Linux isn't for everyone, but then no OS is for everyone, IMO. Choice is good... It is, but for an OS to survive it must attract and "keep" a sufficient audience, Otherwise it might have the same fate as OS/2 which is also an excellent multiuser stable OS. Do not ask why I am leaving OS/2, because I am not really, just learning a new OS and noting how it appears to a non programming guru. Well...that's a very different situation. OS/2 declined because IBM made a corporate decision to stop developing and supporting it, not because of any lack on its part. OS/2 was not as hot as it could have been. I seem to recall having to set up endless parameters in config settings for every application. This was WAY beyond the novice. Wow. I didn't have to do any of that. My workstation had it preinstalled, but I found settings were easier to change and and configure than in Windows. It was much more intuitive for me. (I should mention, though, that OS/2 is *not* a multi-user OS, contrary to what Mr Malka wrote above.) As for the decline, I seem to recall that the next release (which would have been FAR better) was originally a joint IBM/Micro$oft project. The two had a problem seeing eye to eye and Micro$oft pulled out. (Micro$oft then proceeded to remove all IBM code from OS/3, replaced it with Micro$oft code, re-named it Win95 and the rest is history...). Yup, yup, yup. There never was much support for OS/2. Comparatively few applications were ever ported, and (compared to the competition at the time) was a real resource hog. To what are you comparing it, specifically? Boot time was far quicker than Windows, IIRC. Just my $0.02 (Florida residents add 6.5% Sales Tax) Regards, Ozz. *digs in her pockets, coming up with 2 cents and pocket lint* ;) Kathleen, OS addict
Re: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user)
Jeff Malka wrote: As someone who does not like to have MS stuff on my PCs but have to because of the need of relating to the real business world, I was eager to try Linux. It really is great, especially for an open system. But I believe it still has a way to go before it can be used by the general computer public. Well...maybe Linux isn't for everyone, but then no OS is for everyone, IMO. Choice is good... One example is DOSEMU. I am running Mandrake 7.1 which installs dosemu automatically, but not in a usable form. Whereas OS/2 runs dos applications transparently and even a beginner can use them. However the equivalent in Linux is dosemu which - let's get real - needs experience with programming to use and is totally useless to a beginner. As installed only a root can use it. Apparently to make it useable one must tinker with /etc/dosemu.conf and /etc/dosemu.users. Well, a normal PC user could not possibly understand or modify these files But, but...what d'you mean by a "normal" PC user? When I first installed Linux I assumed I would have a lot of learning to do, it being a whole new environment, and I was looking forward to learning how to navigate in a Unix-based system rather than a DOS-based one. assuming he can find them in the first place. That is another problem. There are numerous configuration files (X, etc.) and they are all located in different places instead of in one directory where a non programmer can find them. Unix structures files heirarchically, but this also makes it less easy to mess up. And you can search for files and always find out where you are if you forget... There are numerous other problems that make using Linux a steep learning curve - which it does not need to be. I am certain it will improve and I sure hope so, but it cannot improve unless normal PC users like myself point out where they see the problems for them. I don't know if I would agree that all of these are problems, per se...I do think that a steep learning curve is involved, but I think that's to be expected. Personally, I love a challenge. ;) That is the reason for this message which is not meant to start a flame war but to point out where newbies need help, get frustrated and abandon the OS despite its obvious advantages. I for one, though fairly sophisticated with computers but not a programmer, still cannot figure out how to modify the various files so that Some of the features you don't like are security features, though. Remember that Linux can be a multiuser system...if you have to be root to do something, there's probably a good reason. Means you have less of a chance of shooting yourself in the foot when logged in as an ordinary user. :) 1. a non su can start and use dosemu I haven't used dosemu, but I would imagine that the man page or the info page would tell you. At a guess, add your login to the users file? 2. how to change from the virtual directory dosemu starts in (when in KDE knosole) to a real dos logical drive (already mounted) where my applications exist. Dunno. Have you tried Wine or Lin4Win? Just wondering if those might be closer to what youa re looking for... -- Kathleen Dickason (not ready for prime time either) Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user)
P.S. OS/2 does indeed rock. I used it when I first worked at IBM (dont work there anymore) and it was lovely. Then "upgraded" us all to Windows. Oh, the pain... Kathleen
Re: [newbie] C compilers
Thanks, I tried gcc and found I like it :) Can't help with the C++ books cos I'm learning C, but fatbrain.com has a *ton* of programming books... Michael Khachiki wrote: Hey I jus started too. I use KDevelop from xwindows. But you can use g++ or gcc. Dose any one know any good C++ books for Linux? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kathleen Dickason Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] C compilers Does anyone here use Linux to program in C? I am just learning. Which compiler do you use? Thanks, Kathleen -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] C compilers
I think there is a graphical debugger called ddd but I don't know about a compiler... Brendan K Callahan wrote: Are there any graphical interfaces for the compiler? I'm used to using Borland Turbo C++ (v3.x and v4.x) for Windows. More clearly defined, I like having scrollable windows, multiple windows, the open file dialog and such. Anyone know anything? I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a C++ program. -- Brendan K Callahan, Grinnell, IA, US K0EES, Extra Class License http://www.mp3.com/darkmare_romeo K0EES, Extra Class License dahdidah dahdahdahdahdah dit dit dididit -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] C compilers
Thanks, I tried gcc and found I like it :) Can't help with the C++ books cos I'm learning C, but fatbrain.com has a *ton* of programming books... Michael Khachiki wrote: Hey I jus started too. I use KDevelop from xwindows. But you can use g++ or gcc. Dose any one know any good C++ books for Linux? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kathleen Dickason Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] C compilers Does anyone here use Linux to program in C? I am just learning. Which compiler do you use? Thanks, Kathleen -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139 -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] C compilers
Thank you - I tried gcc and found I like it a lot. I don't care as much about fancy as about functional, so I am happily set up with vim and gcc now. :) Have you tried lcc? I heard it's similar to gcc but not identical and I wondered what the difference was. I've written your book title down, to go with kernighan and ritchie's _the c programming language_ when i am a bit farther along! Pete Clapham wrote: Kathleen -- I use gcc to program in C. It works fine, and it's installed automatically with Mandrake if you install the "developer" mode (when installing do customized, then developer). It's not as fancy as, say, Borland on Windows, but it works well. If you want a book that will actually let you learn C, I would recommend the book by Donald (I think) Kochan (the last name is correct). If memory serves, the title is Programming in C (creative title, here), second edition. It's paperback, green, with a diamond on the front cover. On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:06:52 -0500, Kathleen Dickason wrote: Does anyone here use Linux to program in C? I am just learning. Which compiler do you use? Thanks, Kathleen Pete Clapham Department of Biological, Geological, and Environmental Sciences Cleveland State University Cleveland, Ohio, 44115 Voice: [216] 687-4820 Fax: [216] 523-7200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #18213 -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] C compilers
Thanks! Gcc is seeming to work well for me for C. Its error messages if I don't get a clean compile are easy for me to understand...I type gcc -Wall -ggdb hello.c -o hello This is FUN. Hello, World! ;) (apologies for lame newbie joke) Mark Weaver wrote: Hi Kathleen, I use the compiler that comes with Mandrake which is also the same one in Redhat and the others. If it's C you're programming in invoke 'gcc', if you're doing C++ use 'g++'. Although actually either one will work for both C and C++. I've gotten some funny errors from gcc when compiling a C++ program. the command line to invoke the compiler looks like this: source code file name: hello.cc binary name after compile: hello command line syntax:g++ -g -Wall -ohello hello.cc ENTER if your program is coded correctly when you hit the enter key your machine will whir for a second and then come back to the command prompt. a clean compile is nothing but the command prompt. Then type the name of the binary and watch your program run. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Kathleen Dickason wrote: Does anyone here use Linux to program in C? I am just learning. Which compiler do you use? Thanks, Kathleen -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139 -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] Hard Dive info. please
How large is your hard drive and how big is the Linux partition? Kandace Little wrote: I am having troubles loading up Linux on my Win 98 machinebecause of the size of my Hard drive. I was wondering if byputting in a new hard drive (slave) my problems would goaway? Stephen -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] Hard Dive info. pleas
patrick darcy wrote: Kathleen Dickason wrote: 20 gigs is ample room for 2 OSes or more. is there a reason you don't want to partition the main drive? are you only running windows now? Kandace Little wrote: My hard drive now is 20 gigs and the one that I canadd is only 4 gigs. I was thinking it would be nice tohave Linux on its own drive all together. I guess I woulduse the whole Hard drive for Linux, unless that wouldcause problems? Stephen i got 2 drives one 15 gig the other 20 gig and linex has em both :) Wow! I've got 2 drives with a combined total of 23.6 gig...and 4 OSes. Soon to be 5. Hee. -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] Hard Dive info. pleas
patrick darcy wrote: Kathleen Dickason wrote: patrick darcy wrote: Kathleen Dickason wrote: 20 gigs is ample room for 2 OSes or more. is there a reason you don't want to partition the main drive? are you only running windows now? Kandace Little wrote: My hard drive now is 20 gigs and the one that I canadd is only 4 gigs. I was thinking it would be nice tohave Linux on its own drive all together. I guess I woulduse the whole Hard drive for Linux, unless that wouldcause problems? Stephen i got 2 drives one 15 gig the other 20 gig and linex has em both :) Wow! I've got 2 drives with a combined total of 23.6 gig...and 4 OSes. Soon to be 5. Hee. -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139 how come so many operating systems. i find this fascinating. what do u do more or less with each of them I have so many because I'm an OS addict. *grin* I am curious about how they work and what apps are available in each environment. And CheapBytes makes them simple to acquire as well as inexpensive. I started with Windows 98, which came preinstalled and which I keep because there are some programs I need for work that Ionly have in Windows...like Adobe PageMaker and PhotoShop. I don't like Windows much, though, so I installed Linux Mandrake 7.0 as a dual boot, then upgraded to 7.1. This is my current favorite OS. I use it for learning to program in C, for email and websurfing. I'm still exploring and learning! After that, I got curious. I have a friend who used to program for the BeOS, so I bought a 2nd hard drive and installed BeOS 5 on that. Be is my 2nd favorite OS...I use it to play with graphics programs and 3D modeling, and also for email and websurfing. Since I like the Unix aspect of Linux a lot, I got curious about other flavors, and installed FreeBSD also on the 2nd hard drive. I have only played with this a little so far, since I am currently spending most of my free time playing with C programming. I plan to install Sun Solaris in the future, since it's one of the Unices most commonly used by businesses around here. But mostly, I just like to play with them. :) -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
[newbie] C compilers
Does anyone here use Linux to program in C? I am just learning. Which compiler do you use? Thanks, Kathleen
Re: [newbie] GRUB bootloader question
I ended up adding title BeOS root (hda1,0) makeactive chainloader +1 to GRUB in vi and now it works like a charm :))) thanks all for the help! apparently with BeOS you have to use a chainloader, like Windows, and not boot from the kernel as with Linux or BSD. anyway, I'm a happy camper now with 4 OSes that boot from GRUB!! Kathleen How do I add BeOS? This is the OS I am currently booting from floppy. It's on the first partition on my 2nd hd, but GRUB doesn't seem to recognize the partition type. Can anyone help? Thanks Kathleen just a hunch, completely logout as user and log into root's desktop. Then try it again. ?? -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Test
Yep! :) Joan Tur wrote: Does this message arrive?? 8-? -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joan.Tur.pagina.de Club.Ibosim.pagina.de
[newbie] GRUB bootloader question
Okay, I have kind of a silly question. How do I add another OS to GRUB? I started with a dual-boot Windows98/Mandrake 7.1 setup, and GRUB worked just dandy. Still does, but I have since added a 2nd hard drive and two more OSes, one of which I boot from floppy, and the other of which I access by typing things in GRUB's command line. Is there a way to add these two permanently to the choices that pop up when GRUB loads? Thanks! -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] GRUB bootloader question
Charles A Edwards wrote: On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Kathleen Dickason wrote: Okay, I have kind of a silly question. How do I add another OS to GRUB? As far as I know, you need to edit (as Root) /boot/grub/menu.lst Check "info grub" and look at the Installation section, this should get you going. Paul I added BeOS to Grub using DrakBoot in DrakConfig. It was easy to do and it works. You can change the order listed, add, remove and change the default OS. Charles For some reason, I am unable to use DrakBoot. When I click on it in X, nothing happens. When I try to access it from the command line, the error messages I get make it look as though there's a bug in Perl somewhere...I'll have to check that out later. But!! I added FreeBSD to GRUB by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst in vim! And it works, yay! So thanks to you guys for the help...and now I have another question. How do I add BeOS? This is the OS I am currently booting from floppy. It's on the first partition on my 2nd hd, but GRUB doesn't seem to recognize the partition type. Can anyone help? Thanks Kathleen
Re: Undeliverable: [newbie] Test]
Brilliant in its profound evilness! Kathleen, hapless newbie Greg Stewart wrote: We're saving all the messages with the intent of duplicating them multitudinous times and then flooding the hapless newbie list users until their heads spin around and hard drives explode. Well, it's an idea... --Greg - Original Message - I don't know what happens!? Is the mailing list working? I dont receive any messages since one week ago! 8-? System Administrator escribió: Your message To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] Test Sent:Sun, 20 Aug 2000 13:13:57 +0100 did not reach the following recipient(s): Newbie on Sun, 20 Aug 2000 14:01:13 +0100 The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=NTDOMAIN1;l=NTSERVER10008201301QXLLCNB5 MSEXCH:IMS:NTDOMAIN1:NTSERVER1:NTSERVER1 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient __ message envoye depuis http://www.ifrance.com emails (pop)-sites persos (espace illimite)-agenda-favoris (bookmarks)-forums Ecoutez ce message par tel ! : 08 92 68 92 15 (france uniquement)
Re: [newbie] GRUB bootloader question
You can hit 'c' to bring up a command line when GRUB pops up. :) Now I just need to figure out how to add BeOS... Mark Weaver wrote: Kathleen Dickason wrote: Okay, I have kind of a silly question. How do I add another OS to GRUB? I started with a dual-boot Windows98/Mandrake 7.1 setup, and GRUB worked just dandy. Still does, but I have since added a 2nd hard drive and two more OSes, one of which I boot from floppy, and the other of which I access by typing things in GRUB's command line. Is there a way to add these two permanently to the choices that pop up when GRUB loads? Thanks! -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139 This sounds like an interesting question. I'm running LILO on the main system in my house, but I just installed Mandrake on another system that I decided to try Grub on. ACtually it's quite nice, but I didn't see any command line. How 'would' one pass arguments to GRUB since it's a GUI boot loader?
Re: [newbie] Kppp and Networking
I'm getting three copies of some posts now...is anyone else? Kathleen
Re: [newbie] Kppp and Networking
Thanks, I did check this, but it seems to be set correctly. :/ It's only on this list that I see dupes, not on the other two mailing lists I subscribe to or with regular email...I wonder if it could be my server doing something funny? Dennis Myers wrote: You might check your preferences, I think I saw where you were using Netscape. If you don't check the take deleted messages off of the server, I'm not sure, but, you may get them loaded again when you reboot. I'm not certain about this but seems like I read it on another thread somewhere. Check and see, it does'nt seem right, but maybe that is the problem. Kathleen Dickason wrote: I'm getting three copies of some posts now...is anyone else? Kathleen
Re: [newbie] OT Linux has on up on windows
Just agreeing with youalso remember that in many cases you are actually buying a hardware/software combination...for example a "win/printer". Looks like a printer, prints like a printer SOMETIMES, but it's only half a peripheral really because it's windows-dependant. Kinda like buying mac software and wanting it to run on windows too. Caveat emptor, as most of us find out the hard way. I know I did. :/ Tom Brinkman wrote: On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, you wrote: Now i know that this is not very usall, that is why i am going to tell you all. Right now we all know how windoze has better hardware support than linux, ^^ Nope! We all sure damn don't!! It's prob'ly apparently that way to most 'hands off' users, but actually the reverse... very unfortunately, is the case. Windoze has been the most popular OS for the desktop by far for almost 10 years now. Among the pros and cons of this history, particularly in the last few years, is that hardware has been foisted on the unaware 'computing public' that is 'win' hardware. It's not hard for windoze to 'better' support hardware, when the hardware is designed solely for, or at least slanted towards Windoze, and the manufacturers withhold or provide limited support for any other OS. Most all computer users that vary from this 'win' computer/ hardware situation, eg, Linux users, soon realize not all hardware is created equal. First baptism is they find out their modem is not really a modem, but just a board that has a place to stick a phone line into. _IF_ you use it with windoze. Next most familiar plight is they find out they don't really have a printer, it only works with Windoze. What they prob'ly don't even realize, is that their super duper 900mhz Intel Inside, brand new ready made ... runs like a homebuilt 450, since the cpu/cache/ram/drives are takin on the work load that 'win' hardware shirks and dumps on 'em. The problem goes a lot deeper than this. With the popularity, advent, foisted upon ... however you see it... of the 'onboard', 'builtin' video/sound/modem motherboards (absolute junk IMO), users of OS's other than Micro$h!+, soon find out that the manufacturer's of this cr@p, either only marginally support, provide only binary support (eg, Nvidia), or refuse to support any other OS but ... you guessed it, Winblows. According to the DOJ, this has been going on because of illegal arm twisting by M$. It's real hard (I don't know why they bother) for Linux, BSD, etc., volunteers to try and write drivers for this sub standard 'win' cr@p, when the manufacturers won't/don't cooperate. This is the real injustice M$ has caused. __Not flimsy software... flimsy hardware___ My point: Windoze is responsible for lousy hardware, and lousy hardware support, even by their own products. OS's like Linux and BSD are doin a Herculean job, IMO, to do as well as they do which is often better than Windoze or NT can ...amazing The result is ALL desktop computer users loose and loose big. Marginal, junk hardware is dumped on the computing public. BUT, HEY!, "it works great with Windoze!" -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] well have something to tell you. When i install windoze on my p.c I have to use the keyboard for every thing, because it does not see my mouse. Mandrake 7.1 does see my mouse at setup. WOW!! I have the microsoft inteleye mouse which is usb. (youm know the £50 one with 5 buttons and a little laser) So yes linux is wining, Mark Hillary -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] Test-Ignore
Dennis Myers wrote: Test, ignore No!! ;) -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] Message Format
Outlook's default is HTML (gah) but you can change it :) (Your messages are showing up in HTML format) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What format are my messages showing up in? It should be plain text. But when I get my own message back it doesn't look like plain text. I hate Outlook. Unfortunately, I have to use it at the office... :( Jon
Re: [newbie] Message Format
Sorry, then, I guess it's just that M$ is being evil :(( (I have to use Outlook at work and hate it also) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Outlook's default is HTML (gah) but you can change it :) I know that. I *have* changed it. (Your messages are showing up in HTML format) Argh!!!
Re: [newbie] AOL for Linux
Wow, synchronicity...slashdot has an article on this subject today! http://slashdot.org/articles/00/08/13/137233.shtml Kathleen
Re: [newbie] AOL for Linux
=*= wrote: This is something symptomatic. I clicked on this link, went to Slashdot and read the article. In the article there is an image link -- http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I clicked on that because I'm a sucker for pictures. I tried that for about 15 minutes and gave up. It would start to download (210K) and hang after about 40K -- and hang and hang and hang. I would cancel and try again, and nothing I think that's called "the slashdot effect", alas... Uh, AOL does have this ... uh, reputation. Know what I mean? Indeed. Life is to short to use AOL for anything. Hahaha! I love it :D That would make a great .sig! Phil -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
We have one Novell server at work, one NT server, and one Linux server, and we're getting a second Liunx server. (yay!) But everyone's workstation currently has to run Windows, though I am hinting broadly about how grand a Linux workstation or two might be. ;) Mark Weaver wrote: we don't have that problem where I work. We're using Groupwise. It's a lot more bullet proof than Outlook and much nicer to administrate. Thank God for Novell technology. It ain't Linux, but it's pretty darn close. Hey Kathleen, Hi Roman Also, Outlook sux. :P I have to use it at work. Why do you have to use it at work ? Can't you download another email client ? Roman We have to use it becuse our small company wants everyone using the same software, and there is a temporary moratorium on internet downloads due to some virus problems in the past (before I was hired! it wasn't meee!) Kathleen, posting from BeMail tonight -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
RE: [newbie] *delicate cough*
When I had to re-install Win98 recently (don't ask! heh), the installer checked to see whether the partition had DOS formatting or VFAT or whatever... Now I'm confused! Kathleen, with way too many OSes You do need to configure the partition on which you're going to install Windows as a DOS partition before you install Windows, though. -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139 Sorry to butt in; you don't really have to configure any type of partition when installing Windows. You can start with an unformatted drive, then you choose if you want to use FAT 16 or FAT 32 for the filesystem (do you want to enable large disk support?). M$ sort of did a number on the public with their goofy naming scheme; 'Dos' is something similar to the bash, sh or whatever you *nix shell you want to think of, but they also named their kernel 'Dos'. Now with newer Windows products, the Dos shell is mostly just a crippled way of doing things from the command line. It's not necessary, but it exits anyway. Mike (if I totally missed the topic, just ignore this)
Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
Mark Weaver wrote: Dan LaBine wrote: By the way, whats all this about a "delicate cough"? Did I miss something?? The delicate cough thing started a while back. it was the beginning of this thread, although not the original subject. That was me, stomping my widdle feet in the subject line. *blush* Kathleen
Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
Hey Kathleen, Hi Roman Also, Outlook sux. :P I have to use it at work. Why do you have to use it at work ? Can't you download another email client ? Roman We have to use it becuse our small company wants everyone using the same software, and there is a temporary moratorium on internet downloads due to some virus problems in the past (before I was hired! it wasn't meee!) Kathleen, posting from BeMail tonight
Re: [newbie] *delicate cough*
Its okay Kathleen! I've still got my old vintage 1987 Atari Mega ST with 4 megs of Ram and Motorola 68000 CPU running @ 16mhz. grin Go you! :) (4 whole megs! hee! for the time that rocked) :) As for the Amiga, I owned several in my younger days, they were simply great machines for their time. (and if anyone is watching Linux Today, you'll have seen an article about new things from the Amiga crowd. Still going strong after all these years!) YES Oh well. Off news-list/topic, and I apologise to the easily offended in advance... ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Kathleen, who is really going to post about LInux again next, honest
RE: [newbie] *delicate cough*
get a new hard drive! that's what i did! *grin* master 10 gig drive - win 98 linux mandrake 7.1 slave 13.6 gig drive - BeOS freeBSD whoknowswhat next ;) i have never used WinNT, tho i almost installed it when i went to Linux - then decided not to due to lack of drive space for 3 operating systems. when i get a larger drive for my OSs i want to do a Win98/ Linux/WinNT system so i can learn NT, but as you allude to, i was under the impression that NT is a new OS with almost nothing from DOS, this comes only from reading the odd artical however, as i say - not from hands on experience. now that you tell this story, it sounds familer to me. i don't recall any specifics however. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2:58:28 PM 8/11/00 Sorry to break into this thread. It caught my attention. A friend of mine told me a story about the birth of Win95. A few guys who worked for a company were bought by "MickeySoft" ... one of the guys for this purchased company thought it would be interesting to move DOS to 32 bit. As the story goes ... Mickey managers were scared of Billy Bob and didn't want to do the project.Billy had already told the press that NT was the product. Period. The maverick decided to do it on his own. Eventually the topic came up in a meeting ... managers said the work wasn't possible. The maverick spoke up and said the project was about complete. Billy Bob - seeing dollars in his eyes - gave the project a thumbs up. And that ... according to this story ... is how Win95 was born. Now - somewhere - someone has written this in a book - anyone know the title? Something about 'guys in the attic' ... Just thought it was funny that the argument of Win95 being an OS is still debated. But the above may explain why win95/98/ME development has been so separated from Win NT.
RE: [newbie] Does any one know how to add information to Boot.ini inWindows NT4 so that Linux will boot up?
# in front of the line i find vim easier to use than emacs *ducks potential flames* Michael, What syntax do you use for commenting out lines in Linux? Registered Linux User #179293 Keep your penguin happy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Tracy Holt Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Does any one know how to add information to Boot.ini inWindows NT4 so that Linux will boot up? Romanator wrote: Hi, I know Paul has answered this briefly but... Has any one been successfull in adding an entry to the Boot.ini file of WIndows NT4? I would like to see if NT4 will allow me to boot to Linux? I always thought that Windows cannot see the Linux partitions. Regards, Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Really easy... first you need to boot into linux and move lilo to your / directory or your /boot directory, whichever one you're using. Do this by editing the first line in /etc/lilo.conf to point to /dev/hda(x) (x being the partition number that your boot or / directory lives on) and then run lilo to set your changes. Next, do: dd if=/dev/hda(x) of=bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1 This will drop a bootable image called bootsect.lnx into the directory that you're sitting in when you run the command. Copy this file to your NT or Windows 'C' partition. Finally, add a line to the bottom of your boot.ini file like this: C:\bootsect.lnx="whatever_you_want" Save the file and exit. Next time you boot, you should see the NT bootloader giving you the option to boot into Linux. Make sure you comment out the 'prompt' and 'timeout' lines in lilo.conf before you do the 'dd' step so you won't have to answer questions on both bootloaders. Mike
[newbie] Linux on NeXT?
I've heard that there's a way to run Linux on a NeXT box...has anyone heard about this? I'm just curious; I wouldn't want to get rid of NeXTStep! Thanks -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] No messages for 2 days
I don't, but I am getting the same thing. Reminds me of the dear old FidoNet days! :~) (Which doesn't mean it's not a pain in the butt.) Tim wrote: The list does seem to go it "fits and starts" with FLOODS sometimes and total dry-spells in between. Anyone know why? --tim -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] Mozilla
I sometimes use Mozilla, though I'm in Netscape now. Go to www.mozilla.org and click on "download". I'd recommend the current Milestone build instead of the Nightly if you're having problems...there are install instructions on the site. HTH! Craig wrote: Has anyone set up Mozilla as a browser? If so, do you know of any setup instructions, I can't find any on www.mozilla.com/ Thanks in advance. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
[newbie] *delicate cough*
Oh dear. I am going off-topic here, but I can't help myself... "Robert McNealy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody "froces" anyone to sell their company. That is a business decision, most often for the best of the business-owner. Microsoft has the clout to "buy" its expertise. None of these exchanges can happened with consent. I think you mean '"forces"' and "can happen without consent"...not trying to be unkind, just to make sure I am understanding you. Uhm. Do you know anything about Microsoft's business practices or history? Things certainly *can* happen without consent. Ask the folks at Netscape. Many of would not be in the IT, MIS, PC industires if it weren't FOR Microsoft. Through their business practices, they mass-marketed and made computers easy to use and popular. No one can argue that. Apple did not, or we would all be rooting for government to chew them a new a--hole. Apple's approach and tactics were and are vastly different from the folks in Redmond's. Microsoft did not make computers easy to use and popular. (Easy to use? Even seen a Blue Screen of Death? How many times do you want to crash today?) If you hate Windoze, don't use it. But for many of us, we have to still hybrid still because so many applications are not available in Linux, and so many customers want Win Appz. Not to mention many of our average secretary tyes would never be able to figure out how to use linux. I still know so many users to who have a hard enough time learning Outlook. ARGH. Speaking as a former "average secretary type" (also a former archaeologist, freelance writer, and bookseller, among other things) turned tech writer, I managed to "figure out how to use linux" just FINE, thank you. Please don't stereotype! (In case you're interested, my home box, on which I recently installed a new 13.6 gig hd BY MYSELF, has 3 OSes on it currently (Windows 98/MS-DOS, Mandrake Linux 7.1, and FreeBSD 4.0) and will soon add one more (BeOS). Also, Outlook sux. :P I have to use it at work. And you are right about many people having to use Windows (which is *not* an OS; it just thinks it is...MS/DOS is the OS) but not because applications aren't available. Because we have no choice on the job. Come on, in the early 80's everyone hate IBM, because they were the "Evil Empire", now it is MS. I bet it will be SUN (maybe Cisco) next. Look how they "protect" Java. Fiddlesticks. The reason people dislike M$ is not because they are a large corporation, but because of their cutthroat attitude and shady business practices. The lack of control, lack of backwards compatibility, frequent crashing, and software bloat are not-inconsiderable factors too. Come on. MS bashing is so old. Let's ignore it and get some Linux work done. The post you replied to was one mainly reminiscing about Tandy (I had a WP2!), Atari, and Amiga. *nostalgic sigh* Not mainly M$ bashing. Sorry, nice list peoples. I wanted to get that off my chest. I shall go sit down and be quiet again now. *sheepish grin* -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
[newbie] *happy sigh*
Just got home from my first day at a new (tech writing) job! But while I think the job will be great, I must say that it was a huge relief, after wrestling with Windows and thrice-cursed Outlook all day, to come home to wonderful Linux and X and KDE and Mozilla and XChat and Applixware Office Suite and all. *happy appreciative sigh* I'm a happy lil penguinhead...don't mind me... -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] How big of a truck is Linux?
I'm a Stephenson fan too...and the Command Line essay is great! Funny,
intelligent, and well worth reading. :)
wrote:
Makoto Miyamoto wrote:
In "In the Beginning was the Command Line" from Neal Stephenson
(http://www.cryptonomicon.com/command.zip), Linux is compared to a
tank and windows to a station wagon, which leaks oil and blew
gaskets...
I like this one :-)
Makoto
Hi Makoto! I've read "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson, and I just
finished
"Cryptonomicon" and thought both were great. The latter covers a lot of
Internet and Unix related topics... Pretty cool stuff in all. ;-)
--
/\
DarkLord
\/
--
Kathleen Dickason
Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP-Walt
Charles A Edwards wrote: - Original Message - From: "walt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP So far I have not found anything useful on this list I wil be unsubdcribing..the right way. So far Linux can't even be compared to win2000..I don't know what all the hype is about linux..it really sucks as far as I can see... It is always hard for those who can not grasp something unless it is carried between their legs that there is life and wonder beyond their narrow minded vision. Good luck with "unsubdcribing". Charles P.S. don't forget to use fdisk/MBR to restore your boot record :-} *grin* is that like "don't let the door hit you on the way out"? Kathleen, being evil and replying on the bottom
Re: [newbie] Seeking Tutorial on compiling Kernel
Have you looked at the HOWTO's that are located in "/usr/doc/HOWTO/HTML/en/index.html" There is a kernel HOWTO located there that pretty much explains how it's done and what all you'll need to do it. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, excalibur wrote: Hello, I've been using Linux Mandrake for about a month and a half and it's great, though I've much to learn of it. Does anyone know of a website with a good how-to on compiling the kernel or even a good book that would cover the topic? I'd greatly appreciate it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="bysh.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Romanator -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139
Re: [newbie] Configuring my ISA Modem
I think Com 2 should = ttyS1, not ttyS2...unless that was a typo? Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that I've tackled almost every device on my computer, there lies one last part to be recognized by Mandrake: my ISA "Compaq 56K-DF" modem. I doubt that it is a winmodem due to the fact that Windows reads it on Com2, and not as an expansion device. Any advice, drivers? I've already set Linux to look for it on Com2 (ttyS2), only to the success of a droning "Modem busy" message each time I try Kppp. And another comment ... switching to a Windows session after a long Linux session avails my modem undetectable to Windows unless I do a clean reboot. Could this be related? Believe me, this modem has giving me trouble many times before. Kenny
Re: [newbie] Make Rescue/Bootdisk?
Hi...I dunno if my experience will be of any help here...
When I installed 7.1 I managed to blow away the DOS partition on my hard
drive (yay me), thus losing Windows (this hadn't happened with 7.0)...I used
fdisk to refomat only the DOS partition, and didn't touch the Linux or the
swap partition, and then reinstalled Windows.
Now Grub works great, and I can access both Linux and Windows without
problem.
Kathleen
registered Linux user number 182139
Alan Shoemaker wrote:
Ronasuming that you let it install the default grub
bootloader the below is cut and pasted from the command:
info grub
and was found in the FAQ's section.
Alan
How to create a GRUB boot floppy with the menu interface?
The easiest way is:
1. Create filesystem in your floppy disk. For example:
$ mke2fs /dev/fd0
2. Mount it on somewhere, say, `/mnt'.
3. Copy the GRUB images to `/mnt/boot/grub'. Only
`stage1',
`stage2' and `menu.lst' are necessary. You may not
copy
"stage1.5"s.
4. Run the following command:
$ /sbin/grub --batch EOT
root (fd0)
setup (fd0)
quit
EOT
"Luther, Ron" wrote:
Hi all,
I'm very new to this stuff.
I finally have a Mandrake 7.1 distribution up and running at home.
I'd like to create a "rescue" or "bootdisk" diskette. {I'm planning to
re-install the Win98 portion of my "dual boot" machine - but I'm worried
about the possibility of not being able to get back into Mandrake.}
Is there an 'easy' way to do this?
Ron Luther
Telxon Corporation
Re: [newbie] Configuring my ISA Modem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize you maybe had a typo above It was a typo. Are there any modem configuration utilities that might recognize my modem? You can check which serial device your modem is listed under by typing: % ls -l /dev/modem at the end of the line you will see something like /dev/modem - /dev/ttyS0. If this is not correct, you can go in as root and change it to the right location with: # ln -sf /dev/ttyS1 /dev/modem (where ttyS0 is the wrong locatoin and ttyS1 the right one). Then check it again with the ls command and you should be good to go, if that's the problem. Kathleen
Re: [newbie] Application Runing Problems
Did you configure a modem when you installed Mandrake? A US Robotics modem might be a winmodem, depending on model #, but you should still get an error message. Kathleen GOOSE GOOSE wrote: Hello, Whenver I connect to the Internet via the modem the applications in Linux don't execute - meaning I can click on the application (via the mouse) and nothing pops up. Would anybody know a fix to this problem? BTW I am using a US Robotics Modem. THANK YOU very Much GOOSE Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
