Re: [newbie] kde3.0.1 and kdm
Paul Kaplan wrote: I decided to install the first set of kde 3.0.1 rpms onto LM8.2 (the ones that install into /usr). After uninstalling the previous 3.0 rpms (that install into /opt) and the 2.2.2 rpms, I discovered that kdm was broken and the system now defaults to gdm as the login manager. /usr/bin/kdm is still installed on the system. It is my impression that kde3.0.1 launched from gdm is noticibly slower than 3.0 launched from gdm. Has anyone else noticed this? Any ideas how to reactivate kdm? TIA Paul Hi Paul, you will have to edit /etc/sysconfig/desktop and replace gdm with kdm, reboot and you're good to go with kdm. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.1 and KDE 3
Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 10 June 2002 1:05 am, Mark D. Weaver wrote: Derek Jennings wrote: Just as I pressed 'send' on that last message I realised you are upgrading from Mandrake 8.1 with KDE2.2.1 You can still upgrade to KDE3, but you will not be able to use any of Texstars' KDE3 RPMs since they are for 8.2 derek Derek, I realize this is a few days late, but I thought I'd add my two cents to this thread. I've got Mandrake 8.2 running and it took three installs, the last one being done without kde at all in order to get kde301 installed and working on this machine. I don't know what they've done to KDE to make thing so miserable the packages so impossible to install, but I'd love to find out. The first two attempts completely destroyed the X server rendering the box concole only. The last install, as I mentioned was done on the machine where KDE didn't exist at all and even then it was a HUGE pain in the ass to get the packages to install. two days worth of dependency issues to resolve and even after ALL the dependency issue were taken care of would run the package install with the --test argument and it would tell me that it such and such a package conflicted with one of the kde3 packages I was trying to install. (as I mentioned I installed the system without KDE). the fact that it was complaining about file conflicts between a non-existant kde installation and the one I was attempting to UPGRADE to was more then I could bear. Since I knew there weren't any real reasons for there to be a problem I decided to go ahead with the install. while I didn't have to use the --force argument I did have to use a very similarly forceful means to get the packages to install. and through it all urpmi not only was NOT my friend but was completely useless. the final command with which to install everything looked like this: rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs --replacefiles --nodeps *.rpm So, my one and only question here is what in the world happened to kde and those packages that they're so miserable to install these days? I was expecting the texstar packages to be faster performing, and they are, but as they are a newbie would never be able to get these things installed without killing their system and wanting to walk away from this bad experience forever! Mark Yes, the experience of installing KDE3 has been mixed for many people. With my install it took me the best part of 2 days to get everything installed. Most of that time was spent 'disentangling' KDE2 and KDE3 (Try looking at the 'About' tab in applications like kmixer for example) Moving KDE3 to /opt has caused a lot of the problems. Many of the scripts still call applications in /usr so you end with a mixture of KDE2 and 3. Texstar has got a revised 'startkde' script which resolves that. Also if you want to use KDE3's version of kdm :- Edit /etc/X11/prefdm to set the PATH PATH=/opt/kde3/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin on the next boot it will find kde3 kdm KDE3 is clearly still 'work in progress', which of course is why Mandrake were right in not including it in the 8.2 release. Be prepared to spend some time struggling with it. derek Thankfully, since the install is complete it's been fine since. not a bit of trouble. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is this my ISP's (DNS?) problem? (long)
Charlie wrote: Howdy; I'm not certain whether I have a problem; Shaw FibreLink (my cable/broadband ISP) has a problem, or if we both do. I apologize for the length of this message but I don't know how else to show the information that may let some one help me figure this out. Starting some time last night the two DNS servers that have always been used started attempting to connect to my box. Lease is up? Whatever, the firewall blocked it and I didn't think anything of it. But now when I try to surf to some web sites I get a time out connecting or unknown host message, as though there was no DNS server to query for the address to connect to. Also repeated blocks of the two IPs that are the DNS server addresses. First 3 untoward entries (time is MDT AM): May 26 12:10:37 h24-68-xxx-xx kernel: auditIN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:a0:0c:c1:d1:b6:00:00:77:8f:32:bc:08:00 SRC=24.70.95.195 DST=24.68.xxx.xx LEN=32 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=253 ID=18609 DF PROTO=ICMP TYPE=8 CODE=0 ID=282 SEQ=56796 May 26 12:10:37 h24-68-xxx-xx kernel: PUB_IN DROP 2IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:a0:0c:c1:d1:b6:00:00:77:8f:32:bc:08:00 SRC=24.70.95.195 DST=24.68.xxx.xx LEN=32 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=253 ID=18609 DF PROTO=ICMP TYPE=8 CODE=0 ID=282 SEQ=56796 May 26 12:10:38 h24-68-xxx-xx kernel: PUB_IN DROP 4 IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:a0:0c:c1:d1:b6:00:00:77:8f:32:bc:08:00 SRC=24.70.95.195 DST=24.68.xxx.xx LEN=351 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=253 ID=18610 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=67 DPT=68 LEN=331 Also the most recent two log entries from today when I had difficulty reaching web sites (time is MDT PM): May 26 12:24:17 h24-68-xxx-xx kernel: PUB_IN DROP 4 IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:a0:0c:c1:d1:b6:00:00:77:8f:32:bc:08:00 SRC=24.70.95.212 DST=24.68.xxx.xx LEN=61 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=253 ID=12133 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=53 DPT=32770 LEN=41 May 26 12:24:27 h24-68-xxx-xx kernel: PUB_IN DROP 4 IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:a0:0c:c1:d1:b6:00:00:77:8f:32:bc:08:00 SRC=24.70.95.212 DST=24.68.xxx.xx LEN=91 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=253 ID=12134 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=53 DPT=32770 LEN=71 Strangest part of this is that while I was running InteractiveBastille to set the firewall those two IPs were the DNS server entries that I entered. I mean the 24.70.95.212 and 24.70.95.195. Have I broken something unbeknownst to me by accident, or is the whole bleedin' system going insane because of vulnerabilities in MS bug-ware? Thanks for any suggestions and once again sorry for the length of this missive. Charles, Try setting up a rule on the INPUT chain to allow your ISP to communicate with your named server and see if this clears up. I had the same situation before, however my log entries differed somewhat from yours. I'm not completely sure that this is the case for you. I don't recall seeing that the packets were showing up on the PUB_IN chain, unless thats the way you've got it setup on purpose. iptables -A INPUT -p udp --dport 53 -s 24.70.95.195 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 53 -s 24.70.95.195 -j ACCEPT You can add these two rules from the command line as root and then watch your syslog to see if the kernel continues to log or not. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dangerous computers
yumpin yiminee! somebody ain't a gittin any huggin and kissin fer a spell. et wrote: na,,, it was so dead it was stirile... but don't say I was having sex with a dead thing, just cause the computer had already fsk'd me, by toasting an old scsi (540meg, with a adaptec 1542C Isa scsi card) hard drive that had my wife's most current resume on it. On Wednesday 29 May 2002 08:56 pm, you wrote: Bill Winegarden [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: make sure you disinfect the wound.you wouldn't want to catch a 'virus' He didn't say he was working on a M$ server ;-) Miark On Wednesday 29 May 2002 05:43 pm, you wrote: I have been in very dangerous places before, but I never expected to loose an apendage to a computer before,,, but last night, the big server just up and bit off one of my toes.. thats right, I had the cover off and spun around in my chair to pick up a tweezer, and that sharp edge got me (good thing I keep Duct tape around) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake_Desk (Grrrr!)
Dale Huckeby wrote: On Sat, 25 May 2002, shane wrote: On Saturday 25 May 2002 09:22 am, Dale Huckeby opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: This is my first post to the list. Can anyone tell me how to install Gnome and Kde, but especially Gnome, without having Mandrake_Desk shoved down my throat. I can't even install Midnight Commander without it, for Chrissakes! This is for 8.1. If I can't get my desktop to be MY desktop, I'm going back to 7.2, which unlike 8.1 is lean and mean, or to another distro. if by mandrake_desk you mean the rpm, well it is only some icons and backgrounds. don't use them, choose other theme/styles, delete the mandrake shortcuts, whatever. but 800k of icons and backgrounds seems like a poor reason to go back a few versions to me. If it's only some icons and backgrounds, why does Mandrake threaten to uncheck so many other packages, such as GMC and MC, when I uncheck it? It's not just 800k of icons and backgrounds. It's an overall difference in behavior between 7.2 and 8.1. With 7.2 I type in my userid, then my password (at the console), and Bam!, I have a prompt. With 8.1 it takes about 10 seconds. With 7.2, in Gnome, I can put in one of the install CDs, double-click on the CD icon, and GMC pops up and in very short order I can browse RPMs. In 8.1 the same actions bring up Nautilus, which is a bloated pig of a program, and I wait and wait while it loads the same info in about three times the time it takes GMC. Granted, this is Gnome rather than Mandrake per se, but this graphics intensive, take the poor dumb user by the hand attitude seems to permeate the latest version. Dale...I hear what you're saying here, however, had you taken a few extra minutes during the install to carefully inspect the packages available for the install you'd notice that many, if not all of the programs you've come to appreciate in 7.2 are available for an 8.1 or 8.2 install. There are just changing default programs that are being used for the newer version. As for the take the poor dumb user by the hand attitude seems to permeate the latest version thing you mention is the MandrakeSoft response to a great many new Mandrake users coming from the windows environment. People have been asking for a more intutive install. MandrakeSoft, seeking to satisfy the greatest amount of people with what the thought according to the people's choices, were the best and most wanted choices to populate a default install item list. As always, with Linux and especially Mandrake Linux, the users get what they ask for. Moreover the choices that are offered are Still THE best in all the land. I've got a Windows XP installation that I'm quite impressed with and happy with. I've got scads of boxes running Mandrake Linux that absolutely RULE the roost and one Redhat 7.3 install that I really don't care for. While attempting to configure this new RH install I found that many of the old config tools simply aren't there any more in RH. Very disappointing - back in 1997 I started out the RedHat 5.2 ( After Mandrake there just isn't anything to compare in my opinion ) If I come across as scolding I really don't mean to. All I mean to say is that if one takes the time to search out and make the choices that suit them they really can have the best of all worlds with Mandrake. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Port 80 was Re: [newbie] Dynamic DNS
Roger Sherman wrote: On Sun, 26 May 2002, Franki wrote: There might be some port redirection service you could use, but I don't know what it is.. you can set apache to use a different port.. then somewhere online.. use one of the free webhosting accounts with friendly URL's like http://go.to/franki (or get a real domain.) put a page up there and use meta tags or javascript to redirect it to your other port.. that way people only need to remember the go.to address and the other port still gets used.. other then that, another ISP??? Thanks Franki, but those answers aren't for me. I don't want to have to deal with a free hosting page, even as just a redirect...nor do I want to attatch my domain name to a free webpage, and then not have that domain name associated with my server. And with the one exception, my ISP offers really good service. Thanks anyways... Rog, I think what Frank is saying is that you can have the port number appended to your domain name that is registered. I could be wrong, but that's what it sounds like to me. If that is the case then this would be the cat's meow for you brudda. daRcmaTTeR Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rocks and hard places...(or tossing the wine out thewindow)
Jerry wrote: we've all been at the beginning of my story... Sitting in the chair.. blank look on your face then all of a sudden IT DOES IT AGAIN!!! ARGH. that annoying BSOD. One day you decide yoiu've had enough. that's it. Where's the number to the computer store to see if they have a Linux distro that'll work with your machine. After about 3 weeks of spending nearly every free moment trying to get just one little last detail of my system to work ...my fileserving script on mIRC / or a clone thereof for a *nix client... I'm about tearing my hair out. first off was the disappointment of Wine not liking Mandrake_Desk (the menu part of it) and crashing with a whole whopping 6 minute record of emulation (i got 3 hours on redhat... but my soundcard doesn't work with their distro). Last week it was fighting with bochs-1.4 and finally giving up after sitting here for days just trying to get it to load some kind of boot floppy or image of one to make an image of a windows install. I still haven't got the slightest clue why that won't work. The third option, finding a script for kvIRC/BitchX/ircII/epic_ircII/kIRC/smIRC/x-chat/etc has turned out to be about the most frustrating. Do *nix'ers not do filesharing? i found one script that was half there (no kind of listmaker for an index of your files) and one that I can't get the installer binary to open even after having downloaded/configured/compiled/installed all the latest versions of c... c++.. compilers... parsers...fortran.. perl, python, and tcl/tk et cetera, trying different shells... (yep... i checked the permissions.. .it's 777). so... here i am back in Winblows writing this on OutCast Express 'cause i don't feel like re-installing linux for the 4th time in 3 days (at least it's pretty easy to do with those replay discs). I know.. it's just one chat room out of a million that i can't work with.. but it's a lot of friends in there too. I like Linux when it's running smooth. I had my last linux box up for months without a reboot. So.. I guess my question comes down to 2 things.. does anyone have either a fileserving script for x-chat or ircII(or its clones) or a disk image of a running windows 98 with samba access... or any resources they could point me towards. If it's going to cost me 300 dollars to get VMware Workstation, I think I'll just deal with the BSOD. (at least i got mine to be green instead of blue lol). oops i wrote a book. i'll shut up now. thx in advance! if there's an answer it's here. Jerry. Hi Jerry, Ok...lets start with the most obvious. Does your hardware appear on the Mandrake Linux HCL? Usually when a user is having this amount of trouble there inevitably only two reasons for it. Hardware is the second. I feel your pain my friend. I really do. I know as well as every other Linux user on this list that the learning curve is very steep, and can be nerve racking the first few weeks. Tell us a little bit about the hardware on your system and what it is you're trying to get Mandrake to do on that system. O, and we do do file sharing. Quite well I might add. Samba is the cat's meow for Linux and file sharing. the only thing I know thats better is a full-blown Novell Network. And Linux will do IPX also. Mark a.k.a. daRcmaTTeR Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] shareing access
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I,m new to linux and didn,t understand what someone was trying to tell me the other day.I have two system,s a Win2000 and built a linux box to learn on so not to have to duel boot after getting the linux box running I haven,t be able to connect thur cable internet ISP and I have the windows information right next to it net card shows ok everthing looks right but no connection .someone wrote and told me I could access thee internet thur the 2000 system that would be ok I can only get on one at a time but I,m wanting to access the internet with the linux box not access the files on the win2000 box.Can somebody clear this up for me. In order to do what you're talking about you must enable Connection sharing on the win2000 box. The process is wizard driven so it should be fairly straigh forward. I do know that it's fairly easy on a Mandrake machine, and I've heard that it can be a pain to do on a windows machine. At any rate you can do what you want to do. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
