Re: [newbie] linux on power pc mac

1999-12-04 Thread padlocke

I learned that the Mac in question is a performa 6116. I believe it uses the
601 processor and rated at 60 MHz. 700 MB harddisk and a whopping 8 MB RAM.  It
might have more RAM than that now though. I looked in to MKLinux and that was
the first one that I saw that would be supported on that platform. Any comments
or suggestions?

thanks a lot folks. Yous guys are great :)

On Thu, 02 Dec 1999, you wrote:
 You'll want LinuxPPC, which is located at http://www.linuxppc.org/.
 RedHat is only available for x86, Alpha, and Sparc architectures.
 
 -Matt Stegman
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, padlocke wrote:
  First time for this. I'm working on setting up a Linux server on a PPC Mac.
  Is there a distribution for the PPC or will RH 6.1 work fine?



[newbie] background

1999-12-02 Thread padlocke

Fellas... What in tarnation is the command line switch that runs an application
in the background?

Thanks ya'll :)

*sorry about that... I'm working on my southern dialect*

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[newbie] linux on power pc mac

1999-12-02 Thread padlocke

Hi :)
First time for this. I'm working on setting up a Linux server on a PPC Mac.
Is there a distribution for the PPC or will RH 6.1 work fine?

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] PCMCIA Network Card

1999-12-01 Thread padlocke

I've got a 3com card in this GWay Solo. I used ran and it found the card
automagically. 


On Wed, 01 Dec 1999, you wrote:
 Ok,
 
 I took the plunge and installed Mandrake Linux on my IBM 760 ED. I need
 help configuring my pcmcia 3com 10/100 network card.
 
 Has anyone used this option before?
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 Chris Harris
 Information Systems
 Tel: 602-504-4692   Fax: 602-504-5057



Re: [newbie] ATI announces official support for Linux OS

1999-11-27 Thread PadLocke

That makes me happy :) I use a 3D Rage on one of my machines at work :)

On Sat, 27 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 ATI Technologies Inc. has announced that it is fully supporting the 
 development of drivers for the Linux Operating System and is endorsing
 the open source movement by releasing 2D, 3D and multimedia programming
 specifications for its industry-leading RAGE graphics technology.
 Recognizing
 the phenomenal growth and increasing popularity of Linux, ATI is
 committed
 to ensuring that the open source development community has access to 
 technical development information on all its key components. 
 For more info click on the following link,
 http://www.ati.com/ca_us/corporate/press/1999/4241.html
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Re: [[newbie] Macmillan Mandrake Books (was Mouse Driver screwup in KDE)]

1999-11-27 Thread PadLocke

I've tended to stay with O'reilly  Associates  or the Waite Groupe Press
IDG books are actually quite fun to read too :) I like the comics. C for
Dummies was one of my first C programming books.



On Sat, 27 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 On Sat, 27 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  This is probably outdated by, I'm late getting to my backlog of email.
  It's been my experience in reading books from Que and Sams that they contain
  a lot of typos and misleading if not to say incorrect information. Perhaps they
  have better publishers now, but I don't really care for them.
 
 My experience with sams has been highly varied. Some books are great and
 accurate, others are pure cr*p. There seems to be no middle ground on their
 publications.
 
  
  just one geek's opinion.
  
 just another's
 
 
 -- 
 Alex
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[newbie] Happy day

1999-11-25 Thread PadLocke

Thought I'd drop a line and say happy BirdDay to everyone out there. Remember
to say thanks for something to someone. *wave*

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Re: [newbie] MSIE when?

1999-11-24 Thread PadLocke

Took a look at Mozilla. Liked it. Haven't heard of Konqueror though. Is it any
smaller than Mozilla? Can you point me to a page where I get get it?

thanks :)

On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Donny wrote:
 
  Hay, wasnt MSIE supossed to be out in november for linux?
  
  Thats wat i heard.
  
 
 Probably won't be out until MainSoft's MainWin IDE for Linux is released,
 if ever. Last I heard, MainWin was scheduled for next year. Pesonally, I'm
 hoping for Mozilla or Konqueror to beat 'em to it.
 
 DvB
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Re: [newbie] Re:

1999-11-23 Thread PadLocke

I agree 
not that I think my opinion really matters much just throwing in 2cents:)

On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  "Mike J. Kesow" wrote:
  
  Steve, Steve, Steve,
  Why don't you keep yourself out of other peoples business? This has
  nothing to do with you.  I never wanted part of this anyway!
 
 Take it to private mail.  This is NOT appropriate for the mailing list.
 
 -- 
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 Advance Packaging Corporation
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Re: [newbie] OT: useless factoid part deux

1999-11-22 Thread PadLocke

That's a Gaaame???
I thought it was some nightmarish exercise in recurssion my old functional
programming prof tortured us with *wink*


 Take a look at the Towers of Hanoi game inside Emacs.  The code should
 be similar to what you're trying to solve.  
 
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Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-22 Thread PadLocke

42... The answer is 42 :)

For those who don't know that was an allusion to the Hitchhikers Guide to the
Galaxy.

On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Very true, but ground is not always zero voltage. It depends on the point of
 reference that you measure it against.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "David P. Greenberg" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Axalon Bloodstone"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 7:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)
 
 
  On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Axalon Bloodstone wrote:
   On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Ralph | byte | wrote:
  
A positive nothing is better than a negative anything.
   
byte
  
   Not really, it just depends what the numbers represent, i can think of
   several uses for ground wires :)
 
 
  --Except that ground is zero volts. a negative voltage, is as pleasant to
  the touchee as a positive one. Take it from a veteran who has been many
  times bitten.
 
  David P. Greenberg
  Bitco Electronics
  "In Service to the Recording Industry"
  *Confirmed Linux Newbie*
  **If it's a dog eat dog world,
then I must be a fire hydrant.**
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Re: [newbie] remove from mailing list

1999-11-22 Thread PadLocke

Why noo... No I don't. BUT I have Yoohooed on occasion, does that count?


On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Please remove my name from the mailing list.
 
 Thank You
 
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Re: [newbie] audio in K

1999-11-22 Thread PadLocke

have you run sndconfig?

On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 HI, 
 
 Can anyone point me to a help file on setting up sound for XWindows. I'm
 basically just taking a stab in the dark at those settings it asks for, but to
 no avail. Thanks!
 
 Gregg
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Re: [newbie] OT: useless factoid part deux

1999-11-20 Thread PadLocke

The buckets were built by automated machines being run by a Linux machine AND
the water is straight from Linus T's faucet :)

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 David wrote:
 
  U have 1, 3 gallon bucket
  "  "   "   1, 5 gallon bucket
  
  u absolutely need "exactly" 4 gallon's of water
 
   Fill the 3-gallon bucket, empty it into the 5-gallon one.  Fill it
 again, empty what will fit into the 5-gallon bucket.  Pour the remainder
 (in the 3-gallon bucket, which will be 1 gallon) wherever you need it. 
 Refill the 3-gallon bucket and pour it wherever you need it, which will
 give you 4 gallons there.  What does this have to do with a Linux list?
 
 --
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Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-20 Thread PadLocke

zeros aren't odd or even.  They're Pretty much just place holders.

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 By placement alone they would have to be odd wouldn't they?
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 7:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)
 
 
  But the "2" in "2001" is not.  here is a good one...are zeros od or even?
 
  J
 
  On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
   From: Ronald A. Yacketta
  
   what about 1/9/2001?
   is that not odd a nod number? 1 is odd, 9 is nod and oh yeah 2001 is a
 odd
   number ;-P
  
  
  
  
  
   bluebottle [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/19/99 11:55:40 AM
  
   Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC)
   Subject:  [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Today - Friday, 19/11/1999 -  will be the last day that has all odd
 digits
   in it's date until 1/1/3111. That's right, you will have seen the last
 "odd
   digit day" in your lifetime, and for approximately 37 generations to
 come!
 
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Re: [newbie] X-server (2)

1999-11-20 Thread PadLocke

make that 
switchdesk
honestly... I don't speak with a lisp, although I can program in lisp ( a
little) 


On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 mandrake and probably redhat distributions have a neat little app called
 swithdesk. It will allow you to change environments from whatever environment
 you happen to be running.
 
 Nota ben. I'm not an expert or anything like that... yet. Just sharing my exp.
 
 l8r
 
 On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, you wrote:
   I am also a beginner in Linux as well, as some of you had the mistake of
   speaking to me.  I am curious, "How do I change Windows Managers?"  I read up
   on GNOME and you can do it from the manager itself, but, from what I can tell,
   you can't from KDE, the wm I am using now.  From my installation, I think I
   have FVWM, GNOME, and KDE atleast.
   
   To answer that last message, I would like to say that XF86Setup, or something
   similar, works well.  I just used it to mess around.
   
  Actually, you can from w/in KDE. The same way you do within
  Gnome. Change to Gnome, and from there, I think you can
  select different ones.
  John
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Re: [newbie] Sound card integrated on board.

1999-11-20 Thread PadLocke

This Gateway Solo P133 w/ 32mb RAM notebook that I use as my linux box has an
integrated ess1888 as well. By chance did you find any free solutions as far as
linux device drivers for your ess1888? Right now I'm using an ess1868 driver
which works rather poorly. 

Thanks


On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Sevatio Octavio wrote:
 I have a ESS1888 on my compaq.  The only thing that got it to work is that $20 
driver from OSS.  Once in a while it would cut out on
 me.  Also, when you play realmedia, the sound is good for a few seconds and you get 
silence.  Then the only way to get the sound
 back is to reboot.
 
 I even tried ALSA.  It only worked for my CD player but none of the PCM  MP3 stuff. 
 For MP3s, you would hear a bit of sound then
 silence.  At the same time you could see the counter go crazy.
 
 Seve
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dreja Julag [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 10:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Sound card integrated on board.
 
 
 Sorry, sir, I have a home built.  Just a cheap board I my bro gave to me.
 
 On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  Speak my friend.  What would you like to know?  I take it you have a Crampaq?
 
  Seve
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Joe Marcom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 5:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Sound card integrated on board.
 
 
  My 'board has an ESS1888 integrated...it's equivalent to a winmodem.
  I suspect that this is generally true, but I would like to hear from
  those who know more than I (almost everyone) :.)
  
  
 --
 Drew Jackman
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 20177604
 
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RE: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-11-20 Thread PadLocke

Sorry... can't let my old math profs down on this one.

Zero isn't imaginary either. An imaginary number is a multiple of a quantity
called "i" which is defined by the property that i squared equals -1. Zero
squared is Zero and the square root of Zero is still Zero. 

Some people get confused, because it is hard to imagine any number having a negative 
square.
It is tempting to believe that i doesn't really exist, but rather it's just a
convenient mathematical hoop de doo. This isn't the case. Imaginary numbers do
exist. They are not really imaginary at all. The name
dates back to when they were first introduced, before their existence was
really understood. At that point in time, people were imagining what it would
be like to have a number system that contained square roots of negative
numbers, hence the name "imaginary". Eventually it was realized that such a
number system does in fact exist, but by then the name had stuck.


On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 0 is in fact an imaginary number. Try and imagine having zero of something.
 0 x 1 implies there
 are some ones, but there are none of them. Having a zero quantity of
 something is in its self contradiction. You can't have nothing of something.
 
 Or have i just drank too much coffee today...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Peter Heckert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 20 November 1999 21:46
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)
 
 
  PadLocke wrote:
  
   zeros aren't odd or even.  They're Pretty much just place holders.
 
  If you define even as: "can be divided by 2 without remainder" then
  0 is even.
  0 div 2 = 0, remainder = 0.
 
  Pretty long thread!
 
  ;-)
 
  Peter
 
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[newbie] benchmark

1999-11-20 Thread PadLocke

At workI use an app by SiSoft called Sandra to diagnose, and benchmark
computers (processors, bus, bridge, video, register dumps, harddisks, etc
etc etc) that I have to fix. It's a really good app for Windoze. Is anyone
familiar with it and does anyone know if there is a similar app for X systems?


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Re: [newbie] bounced emails

1999-11-17 Thread PadLocke

I've been ignoring a lot of this list just cause I don't really have time to
read a couple hundred emails a day. Then I noticed that I too have been getting
bounced emails from mindspring. Can you give me a brief rundown of the problem
here? I think I'll play along and forward these things to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] if it really is their problem. 

Thnkas :)

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 John Aldrich wrote:
 
  Hey, folks...
  Let's get Mindspring's attention -- anytime you get a
  "bounce" message from a server that ends with
  "private.mspring.net" forward it on to
  "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" with FULL headers.
 
  They seem to be in denial that this is THEIR problem. It
  appears that "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" has subscribed to
  this list, but that Mindspring doesn't know that.
  "racetrac.com" is a dial-up domain of Mindspring with "stor
   forward" email (it says so on the "host" line G)
 
  Unfortunately, apparently Mindspring isn't set up to
  automatically route all incoming email for "racetrac.com"
  (regardless of what's before the "@" symbol) to their
  mailbox *sigh*
 
  Let's make 'em sit up and take notice that it's NOT just
  one or two people having problems!
  John Aldrich
 
 hehehe, I save most of my old email (silly me) and sent all 15 of them
 back in individual request's,  hmm maybe next time I'll start including
 a 5Mb ascii IGES file for them to play with
 
 
 --
 Joseph S. Gardner
 Senior Designer / Technical Support
 Kirby Co.,  Cleveland, OH
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[newbie] connect/software issue?

1999-11-16 Thread PadLocke

This one was an enigma till I "fixed" it.
Mandrake dist. 6.0. Used kppp to dial into my ISP and all was well. The problem
was that I couldn't launce anything while I was connected. No email client,
browser, filemanager, terminal, nothing. Thing was though, that any app that
was running before I connected would run normally, unless it launched a seperate
thread. Then, of course, that thread wouldn't run. 
My "fix"
I was installing a new kernel and messed up. Of course I didn't make a backup
of my working kernel. That would have been the smart thing to do right? Anyway.
I had to reinstall from my dist. CD and everything worked the way it was
supposed to work after that. I could launce whatever I wanted before and after
and during my connection to my ISP. 


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Re: [newbie] PCI Modem Configuration

1999-11-12 Thread PadLocke

Here's a pretty good rule of thumb for modems. If it doesn't have jumpers or
switches to configure it, chances are it won't work under Linux.



On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Winmodems do not work in Linux.  You may want to consider getting an external
 model, or a non-plug-n-pray model.
 
 Bryan
 
 
 
 
 
 Tony Bao [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/12/99 09:07:45 AM
 
 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc:(bcc: Bryan Moorehead/Link/Allied Holdings)
 Subject:  [newbie] PCI Modem Configuration
 
 
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a Motorola PCI PnP SM56 modem, and from the
 Win98 I can see it takes the "COM4".  I searched the
 Mandrake and Redhat webpages, but didn't find out how
 to configure a PCI PnP modem.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Tony
 
 
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Re: [newbie] SB Live

1999-11-11 Thread PadLocke

check out your Mandrake distribution CD if you have on. There's probably a
folder in there with a whole bunch of docs and howto's in it. The Kernel Howto
is pretty good. Of course I'm going by my mandrake 6.0 dist. cd. I'm sure
yours can't be too far off as far as what kinda stuff is on the CD. 

If you don't have the dist CD you can check here:

http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/

I'm sure there's more there than most people would ever want. :)

l8r

PadLocke the Ogre

On Tue, 09 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 I have linux-mandrake 6.1 (cheapbytes-gold) with no modifications
 (dont't have a clue how to recompile the kernel) and have downloaded the
 emu10k1 tarball  from opensource.creative.com for the SB Live card and
 have unzipped etc. then "make" and "make install" folled by the
 suggested modifications to the config.modules file but when I reboot I
 get a failure with unresolved symbols errors and the sound install
 fails.  I thought that this release had appropriate module setups etc.
 
 Can anyone shed some light.  Please remember I have no clue how to
 recompile if that's what is needed and I'll need some VERY explicit
 directions.,
 
 Regards
 
 Joe Gardner



Re: [newbie] hi

1999-11-11 Thread PadLocke

Have you been to this site yet?

http://www.portalux.com/informations/doc/



l8r
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On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Dimitris Houstoulakis wrote:
 Hi,
 I wonder if there is any documentation in *.doc format about Linux
 generally.
 Thanks
 
 tvp



Re: [newbie] OT Quantum Fireball Plus KA shows only 371KB cache (vs 512KB)

1999-11-11 Thread PadLocke

Kinda makes you wonder whatever happened to truth in advertising


On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Steve Philp wrote:
 M Thompson wrote:
  
  Here is a question I sent to Quantum (disk drives) along with the
  response I received from them.  Does anyone know if their response
  is bogus?
 
 Their answer is legitimate.  It's unfortunate, but true.



RE: [newbie] Re: [joke] Beatles Parodies for Unix Enthusiasts

1999-01-17 Thread PadLocke

I must to know where there are more :)
BAAHAa ha


On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Excelent!!
 
 More of the same please.
 
 I am printing thease out in A3 to pass out to my developers.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stanley O'Larey
 Sent: 18 November 1999 12:40
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Re: [joke] Beatles Parodies for Unix Enthusiasts
 
 
 Some of you might get a chuckle from this.
 stan.
 
 "Robert E. Lee" wrote:
  
  "NEW LYRICS TO BEATLES SONGS"
  Unix Man (Nowhere Man)
  --
   He's a real UNIX Man
   Sitting in his UNIX LAN
   Making all his UNIX plans
   For nobody.
   Knows the blocksize from du(1)
   Cares not where /dev/null goes to
   Isn't he a bit like you
   And me?
   UNIX Man, please listen(2)
   My lpd(8) is missin'
   UNIX Man
   The wo-o-o-orld is at(1) your command.
   He's as wise as he can be
   Uses lex and yacc and C
   UNIX Man, can you help me At all?
   UNIX Man, don't worry
   Test with time(1), don't hurry
   UNIX Man
   The new kernel boots, just like you had planned.
   He's a real UNIX Man
   Sitting in his UNIX LAN
   Making all his UNIX  plans For nobody ...
   Making all his UNIX  plans For nobody.
  
 Write in C ("Let it Be")

   When I find my code in tons of trouble,
   Friends and colleagues come to me,
   Speaking words of wisdom:
   "Write in C."
   As the deadline fast approaches,
   And bugs are all that I can see,
   Somewhere, someone whispers:
   "Write in C."
   Write in C, Write in C,
   Write in C, oh, Write in C.
   LOGO's dead and buried,
   Write in C.
   I used to write a lot of FORTRAN,
   For science it worked flawlessly.
   Try using it for graphics!
   Write in C.
   If you've just spent nearly 30 hours,
   Debugging some assembly,
   Soon you will be glad to
   Write in C.
   Write in C, Write in C,
   Write in C, yeah, Write in C.
   BASIC's not the answer.
   Write in C.
   Write in C, Write in C
   Write in C, oh, Write in C.
   Pascal won't quite cut it.
   Write in C.
  
  Something
  -
   Something in the way it fails,
   Defies the algorithm's logic!
   Something in the way it coredumps...
   I don't want to leave it now
   I'll fix this problem somehow
   Somewhere in the memory I know,
   A pointer's got to be corrupted.
   Stepping in the debugger will show me...
   I don't want to leave it now
   I'm too close to leave it now
   You're asking me can this code go?
   I don't know, I don't know...
   What sequence causes it to blow?
   I don't know, I don't know...
   Something in the initializing code?
   And all I have to do is think of it!
   Something in the listing will show me...
   I don't want to leave it now
   I'll fix this tonight I vow!
  
  YESTERDAY
  -
   Yesterday,
   All those backups seemed a waste of pay.
   Now my database has gone away.
   Oh I believe in yesterday.
   Suddenly,
   There's not half the files there used to be,
   And there's a milestone hanging over me
   The system crashed so suddenly.
   I pushed something wrong
   What it was I could not say.
   Now all my data's gone
   and I long for yesterday-ay-ay-ay.
   Yesterday,
   The need for back-ups seemed so far away.
   I knew my data was all here to stay,
   Now I believe in yesterday.
  
  Eleanor Rigby
  -
   Eleanor Rigby
   Sits at the keyboard
   And waits for a line on the screen
   Lives in a dream
   Waits for a signal
   Finding some code
   That will make the machine do some more.
   What is it for?
   All the lonely users, where do they all come from?
   All the lonely users, why does it take so long?
   Guru MacKenzie
   Typing the lines of a program that no one will run;
   Isn't it fun?
   Look at him working,
   Munching some chips as he waits for the code to compile;
   It takes  a while...
   All the lonely users, where do they all come from?
   All the lonely users, why does it take so long?
   Eleanor Rigby
   Crashes the system and loses 6 hours of work;
   Feels like a jerk.
   Guru MacKenzie
   Wiping the crumbs off the keys as he types in the code;
   Nothing will load.
   All the lonely users, where do they all come from?
   All the lonely users, why does it take so long?
  
  .===.
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Re: [newbie] Removal from lists

1999-01-17 Thread PadLocke

How on earth could anyone not enjoy reading 200 some-odd emails a day ?? ;)

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 OK, but you should know that you'll never be able to get back on. If you
 really want off you need to stand on one leg, during a full moon in any
 month that ends in "J" , and chant "Cry baby, Cry" 13 Times.
 Signed,
 God!
 David P. Greenberg
 Bitco Electronics
 "In Service to the Recording Industry"
 **Rock on with glowing glass**
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike J. Kesow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 5:40 PM
 Subject: [newbie] Removal from lists
 
 
 PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD TAKE ME OFF YOUR LIST!!!
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)

1999-01-17 Thread PadLocke

yes it is, BUT 2 is an even digit and I think the point was that 11-19-1999
will be the last calander date with all odd digits. 

This person probably also realizes that today is the first day of the rest of
the week :) *chuckle* jk


On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 From: Ronald A. Yacketta
 
 what about 1/9/2001?
 is that not odd a nod number? 1 is odd, 9 is nod and oh yeah 2001 is a odd
 number ;-P
 
 
 
 
 
 bluebottle [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/19/99 11:55:40 AM
 
 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC)
 Subject:  [newbie] Totally useless fact (OS)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Today - Friday, 19/11/1999 -  will be the last day that has all odd digits
 in it's date until 1/1/3111. That's right, you will have seen the last "odd
 digit day" in your lifetime, and for approximately 37 generations to come!
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Re: [Re: [newbie] FW: Bouncing!! (991117-8324497)]

1999-01-17 Thread PadLocke

I've been living in the south since I was 6 years old and I don't believe I
said  "ya'll" in coversation as much as [EMAIL PROTECTED] took the time to
spell it out in his response.

jk  *lol*




On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  I'm replying to the topic (?), not just this post.  Seems to me
  y'all, that the complaints about the 'problem' are out numbering the
  'problem' by 3 to 1.  The 'complaints/ childish treats of
  retaliation /plans of ner' do well are now the 'problem'!
  
Folks, there's a little key marked 'Delete', that's usually the
  best solution for unwanted mail.  If y'all want a unfettered list
  it'll need to be moderated any volunteers??  
  
 no?, I didn't think so
  
   .  Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]  .
  
 Well, if EVERY post you sent was bounced, and you were a
 "newbie" wouldn't it make you wonder what was going on? The
 main reason I started making a stink in the list is because
 a lot of "I can't seem to post to this list" messages
 started appearing at that time. Plus, I found it rather
 annoying to have all my posts bounced back to me!
   John
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Re: [newbie] Re: [Issue 991117-8332510]

1999-01-17 Thread PadLocke

Not that it's all that critical, but who monitors this list anyway? (if anyone)
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[newbie] Re:

1999-01-17 Thread PadLocke

endearing replies from another loving fan??


On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Mike J. Kesow wrote:
 %_I LOVE THE HUMOR AND SARCASM, BUT I HATE YOU ALL AND WANT OFF OF THIS CRAP!
 


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Re: [newbie] Sound card integrated on board.

1999-01-17 Thread PadLocke

ESS and Crystal Audio and several others I can't think of right now make
chipsets that OEM's stick on their cards. Does Linux support the chipset
directly or the OEM's card which in some cases has a slightly modified version
of the chipset? 



On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 Yes, and I suspect integrated cards of causing much misery among
 newbies.  I couldn't even get a "supported" sound card to work until
 I bought one that could be set to IRQ 10 (available)  Even disabled,
 the ESS1888 ties up IRQ 5 in Linux. My next computer will have NO
 hardwired accessories!
Regards, 
      Joe
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Re: [newbie] X-server (2)

1999-01-17 Thread PadLocke

mandrake and probably redhat distributions have a neat little app called
swithdesk. It will allow you to change environments from whatever environment
you happen to be running.

Nota ben. I'm not an expert or anything like that... yet. Just sharing my exp.

l8r

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, you wrote:
  I am also a beginner in Linux as well, as some of you had the mistake of
  speaking to me.  I am curious, "How do I change Windows Managers?"  I read up
  on GNOME and you can do it from the manager itself, but, from what I can tell,
  you can't from KDE, the wm I am using now.  From my installation, I think I
  have FVWM, GNOME, and KDE atleast.
  
  To answer that last message, I would like to say that XF86Setup, or something
  similar, works well.  I just used it to mess around.
  
 Actually, you can from w/in KDE. The same way you do within
 Gnome. Change to Gnome, and from there, I think you can
 select different ones.
   John
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Re: [newbie] Removal from lists

1999-01-17 Thread PadLocke

HOLY digital postcards, Batman!

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, you wrote:
 On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, PadLocke wrote:
 
  How on earth could anyone not enjoy reading 200 some-odd emails a day ?? ;)
 
 Trade ya...
 " Folder: INBOX  Message 4 of 1,079 62% NEW"
  
  On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, you wrote:
   OK, but you should know that you'll never be able to get back on. If you
   really want off you need to stand on one leg, during a full moon in any
   month that ends in "J" , and chant "Cry baby, Cry" 13 Times.
   Signed,
   God!
   David P. Greenberg
   Bitco Electronics
   "In Service to the Recording Industry"
   **Rock on with glowing glass**
   -Original Message-
   From: Mike J. Kesow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 5:40 PM
   Subject: [newbie] Removal from lists
   
   
   PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD TAKE ME OFF YOUR LIST!!!
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  those who can count, and those who can't!
  
 
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