RE: [newbie] WOW,imagine that...eh?
Great, spam sent to this list through an open relay (oem.net) listed in the ORBS database Handy tool: http://spamcop.net Patrick -Original Message- From: Kit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 4:26 PM To: Mandrake Linux Subject: [newbie] WOW,imagine that...eh? amazing...eh? NOW I'm helping others -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 7110071 http://members.xoom.com/kitgoins
Duplicate again : RE: [newbie] Post Instalation problem
To ilustrate what I said ealrier about duplicate messages: this one I got for the 4th time. I included the message headers. This shows that sympa@localhost (mandrake list server) has sent this particular mail 4 times between december 12 and today. Received: by sol2 (mbox mb10149) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.22 1998/04/11) Wed Dec 15 11:07:45 1999) X-From_: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Dec 15 11:05:00 1999 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from hood.tvd.be (hood.tvd.be [195.162.196.21]) by sol2.tvd.be (8.9.1a/8.9.3/tvd) with ESMTP id LAA23792 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:04:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com [216.71.84.35]) by hood.tvd.be (8.9.3/8.9.3/RELAY-1.1) with ESMTP id LAA10335 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:04:58 +0100 (MET) Received: (from sympa@localhost) by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA14544 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 04:03:28 -0600 Received: (from sympa@localhost) by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA27159 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 05:41:21 -0600 Received: (from sympa@localhost) by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA27242 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:48:13 -0600 Received: (from sympa@localhost) by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA08993 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:07:43 -0600 Received: (from sympa@localhost) by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA05832 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:41:23 -0600 Received: from mail.barak.net.il (mail.barak.net.il [206.49.94.213]) by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09705 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 08:02:28 -0600 Received: from net-mail.netafim-magal.co.il ([209.88.156.161]) by mail.barak.net.il (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA20099 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:03:28 +0200 (IST) Received: by net_mail with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id YQDNBRQC; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:03:40 +0200 Message-Id: E08FFB2C2EA0D311967C00508B8B256909F960@net_mail From: Mike Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:03:40 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Post Instalation problem X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sequence: 333 Precedence: list -Original Message- From: Mike Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 3:04 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [newbie] Post Instalation problem I just installed Linux-Mandrake 6.1 on my sons machine, and have the following problems: 1st I believe that there is a conflict between his Creative Vibra128 PCI sound card and the 3C509 NIC because if I run sndconfig the soundcard is detected fine, and plays the test sound but afterwards if I ping my network the computer TOTALLY locks up, only a hardware reset works. The NIC works fine as long as I don't try and run sndconfig. 2nd the update icon doesn't work in KDE. 3rd I used fips to make room for Linux (he has Windoze98 as well on the machine) and now, when he boots into win98 the desktop appears and then the computer freezes for about 4 minutes, then is OK. In the control panel the Linux partition is visible and If I click on it, once again the computer freezes for about 4 mins. I believe that maybe Windoze98 is trying to access this partition at the end of it's boot and that is what is causing the freeze. Does anybody have any ideas what to do about it? (and don't tell me to ditch the windoze please, I would if I could but I can't). Awaiting your words of wisdom: Mike Perry RD Dep. Netafim Magal. Linux -- the Ultimate Windows Service Pack
Re: [newbie] Multiple postings?
No, you're not the only one. After the entire repost of an entire day last week, the same is happening now: mails from yesterday (and this morning) are coming in again one by one. Patrick - Original Message - From: "Joseph S. Gardner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Linux Newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 3:33 PM Subject: [newbie] Multiple postings? Is anyone else receiving multiple postings from Sat and Sun or am I the only one being blessed. (I downloaded this morning and now I'm getting a second batch come through piece by piece) Hmm... -- Joseph S. Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Liszt.com -- Correction
try www.freshmeat.com, that's where I found my copy of Mailmain. It installed like a breeze, is easy to configure, runs like a charm, has loads of features and is blazing fast. Hey, why not include it in Cooker? Patrick Putteman Internet Support Manager Net7 - Member of the Advalvas Group - Original Message - From: "Shannon M. Johnston" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Liszt.com -- Correction Where do you get a copy of mailman? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ronald A. Yacketta starting a mailing list is not that hard actualy. If I were to start one I would grab a copy of mailman and install it (accoring to the INSTALL/README) oh yeah, need a *nix with sendmail and a non-blocked port 25 you could even goto www.listbot.com and start a list from there , they will give you the space for the list (hdd/www) behind the sceenes while you actualy maintain the list Josh McCaffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/03/99 02:08:21 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Ronald A. Yacketta/958157/EKC) Subject: Re: [newbie] Liszt.com -- Correction I think www.list.com or lists.com. I know when another mail list server was down, we had a back up list using one of these sites. If you can put up w/ a little advertising on all of the posted mails, it's not so bad. If it works, it works :) -Josh Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: www.liszt.com is just a list of mailing lists, not a place to start one. Which only goes to show that if anyone is interested in starting a StarOffice mailing list, then we'll have to look for someone who can direct us to information on how to do it. Anybody know anything about this. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
[newbie] Good Backup solution
Hi all, I have a Mandrake 6.0 system installed as our primary DNS server (we're an ISP) and have some network monitoring tools installed (Netsaint, MRTG and IPmeter). Works like a charm ;o) I have a question though. An external 4/8gb SCSI travan tape is connected to the box and is operational, and I'm looking for an 'as user friendly as possible' backup sollution. I could just tar all the stuff I want secured (basicaly our /var/named dir, our mrtg dir, and our HTML dirs) to the tape, but I'm not the only one who would have to be able to restore a backup (or part of the backup) if something goes wrong. I had a look at Kdat. I'ts friendly enough, but can't be scheduled. What's more, it won't recognize a tape inserted in the drive, untill I format it. And of course, once formated, data is lost so I can't restore from it. Anyone know of a good, user friendly and especialy schedulable backup sollution I could try out (and perhaps adopt)? Thanks all, Patrick Putteman Internet Support Manager Net7 - Member of the Advalvas Group www.net7.be - www.advalvas.be
[newbie] KDE Backup scheduler
Hi all, According to Linuxberg and KDE, there should be a KDE backup scheduler to be used with Kdat somewhere in the KDEAdmin package. The thing is: I can't find it. Anyone have a clue? Patrick
Re: [newbie] Time settings !
So was mine, time changed automagically to my happy surprise ;o) - Original Message - From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Time settings ! On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, you wrote: Good Morning newbie-list, Just as a reminder, in order to display the correct time on your linux system, if the cmd: date shows you the correct time you can simply run the cmd: clock -w to correctly set your hardware clock. Interestingly enough, my system WAS up and running during the time change, BUT, it shows the correct system time. :-) I didn't have to change a thing. :-) John'
[newbie] Important: Intel 810 Chipset and Mandrake
Hi All, I have a pretty ordinar question but I need it answered urgently. I have to build a new Linux Box and I have a spare Chaintech MB with an Intel 810 chipset. The board runs Win95 and Win98 without probs, but NT crashes about 10 times a day on it. I've had the board replaced with the same result so I can assume that the board is OK but NT isn't happy with it. As the board sits in my boss PC for the moment, I'm going to replace it with a more proven MB (an AOPEN AX6B) and recycle the I810 to Linux. I know about the video chipset issues, but that is not of my concern as the box will be placed in our noc about 40Km away from the office so I will use a remote X-session or just plain command line. I still have a few older VGA cards lying around so I could always fitt one of these. My boss is pulling is hairs out because of the NT crashes, but I don't want to dismantle his PC before being sure that linux will run on an I810 chipset with 128megs of ram, 18GB hdd and a celeron466... so, to all of you... will it? thx ;o) Patrick PuttemanInternet Support ManagerNet7 - Member of the Advalvas Group
Re: [newbie] vmware hardware compatibility
I've ran VMWARE on a P233 and ran Win95 quite happily. Don't think about running WIN98 or NT because that will be just too slow. About your soundcard: as long as your soundcard works in Linux, VMWARE will support it. It only emulates a SB16 in the guest OS, meaning that to have sound in the guest OS you have to install the SB16 drivers. All in all, VMWARE is a very good and clever product. I haven't ran accross one single app that doesn't run on the guest OS (as long as you don't want to run apps that rely on low level hardware acces, say you have a CDR on your host OS, but you won't be able to use that as a CDR in VMWARE, only as a CD). I recently read in a leading UK PC magazine (PCPLUS) that Vmware was a clever but stupid and useless product. I don't agree! Its the Ideal way of developing and testing cross-platform applications (or webpages for that matter) without the need of several expensive machines. But then PCPLUS only talks about Redhat, Suse and Debian as being THE linux distro's Patrick Putteman Internet Support Manager Net7 - member of the Advalvas Group - Original Message - From: David van Balen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 10:03 AM Subject: [newbie] vmware hardware compatibility I'm considering trying out vmware using linux as host and running nt as a guest os. Before I start, however, I have a couple questions for anyone who is familiar with this product: - On their web site they say that vmware will run on any pentium system but they recommend a PII266. Is the performance degraded significantly on anything slower? (I have a PII233). - Second, vmware is supposed to support only sb16 compatible sound cards. Will my Yamaha OPL3SA2 card work under vmware? - I'd also appreciate any other comments anyone might have about this product. DvB
[newbie] Password on entering a webpage using Apage Server
Hello All, Got another question: I use my linuxbox at the office for monitoring and accounting of the bandwith/uptime of our servers, with automatic generation of HTML pages (mrtg and netsaint are 2 of the apps I use). Of course, this info is kind of confidential and therefor I would like to have to enter a password upon entering the confidential parts of the server. How do I configure Apache so that it asks a password upon browsing to certain files/dirs? I had a look at the apache docs, but they're not entirely clear on this. Thx, Patrick Putteman Internet Support Manager Net7 - Member of the Advalvas Group
[newbie] Apache + Linuxconf on Mandrake 6.1 Helios
Hello All, Got a little problem using Apache and Linuxconf on Mandrake 6.1 Helios. Whenever I make manual changes in the apache.conf file, they get overwritten at reboot by linuxconf. They even get overwritten by linuxconf whenever I use it and ask it to apply changes. I have already tried to disable the apache linuxconf module, to no avail. Any Ideas anyone? Patrick Putteman Internet Support Manager Net7 - Member of the Advalvas Group
Re: [newbie] Linux very slow to load - repost
seems like a problem with the spin-up for your harddisk to me... What kind of hard disk is it? SCSI or IDE? Size, make/brand... ? Patrick Putteman Internet Support Manager Net7 - Member of the Advalvas Group - Original Message - From: Eric Mings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 9:37 PM Subject: [newbie] Linux very slow to load - repost I never received any solutions or explanations for the difficulty I mentioned in my prior post so I figured I would try again. I know that with a high volumn list such as this, questions quickly become lost in the pile if not addressed soon after posting. Anyways, below is my problem. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Thanks. I recently installed Mandrake 6 on a 450 pentium box and, although it runs well, it seems very slow to initially load up. I have redhat 6 running on an old 486 and it loads MUCH faster. Here is the difference, it takes forever for the LILO prompt to come up after the basic bios settings display is finished. Sometimes I even have to restart to get it to come up at all. It then takes almost forever for the "loading linux" to finish. After that point all is normal in the startup process. Both of these aspects are very fast on my old 486 with redhat. Any ideas what could be causing this? Regards, Eric Mings Ph.D.
Re: [Re: [Re: [[newbie] In Search of an Email Client capable of Multiple Accounts]]]
I never got mahogany to work properly on Mandrake. Perhaps it would be something to include in cooker...? Patrick Putteman Internet Support Manager Net 7 (Member of the Advalvas Group) www.net7.be - Original Message - From: Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 5:06 AM Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [[newbie] In Search of an Email Client capable of Multiple Accounts]]] Traci Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mahogany is an x based e-mail program that supports multiple e-mail accounts within the same user account. It makes life so much simpler than all the logging out and logging in all the time. Traci == Does it read html?? Is it a free download? Why are all of these mail programs named after types of wood?? (OK, that one's silly ;o)) Mike Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [RE: [[newbie] realy dumb and revisited Q]]
Not exactly LILO is the LInux LOader and offers you a prompt at system startup where you can choose wich OS to boot. I'd rather say that the rc files and initscripts are the very far away cousins of autoexec.bat and config.sys. Patrick Putteman Internet Support Manager Net 7 (Member of the Advalvas Group) www.net7.be - Original Message - From: Joseph Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 12:44 PM Subject: RE: [RE: [[newbie] realy dumb and revisited Q]] Ok, ok I get the point. It's the linux equivalent of DOS's config.sys and autoexec.bat, right. Regards, Joe -Original Message- From: Michael Scottaline [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 2:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RE: [[newbie] realy dumb and revisited Q]] Joseph Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does one mean rerun lilo (I know RTFM, but I don't have my books with me 8-)) Regards, Joseph Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Company Cleveland, OH From a command line just type: lilo
Re: [newbie] First time linux user in DIRE need of help!
I don't think dell has their monitor specs on the site, BUT, i might be able to help you as I have 3 dell monitors successfully configured with Mandrake ;o)) Firs, boot your llinux in Command Prompt, for that, boot from your disk and at the lilo prompt, type linux 3 you will boot in 'text mode' and you will be able to logon. Next, run setup, type setup at the command prompt and in the menu choose 'X configuration'. There, select your video card, and chose the first line in the monitor setup menu (don't remember what it says exactly, something like 'specify your ...' I think, anyway, just leave your cursor where it is and press enter. In the list, choose 'non interlaced SVGA monitor 1024*720 @ 60' and press enter, then, you will be offered the choices for the vertical refresh rate, there you can just press enter again on the first line. That's it, should work, it does for me. Patrick ps Using windows for the moment so I can't check the exact phrasing in the menues, but if you folow these instructions you should be ok. On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, you wrote: Hi all. I just recently order a copy of Mandrake from Linux Mall, and when I attempted to intall it I ran into hordes of errors. I browsed the site for help and found the mailing list and thought that you fine folks might assist me in getting my computer straightened out. It might give you a better idea of my problems to first describe my system. I have the basic Dell Dimension XPS R450 system configuration with the 16mb STB nVidia video card and a 17 inch Dell Trinitron monitor. Ok, now on to the errors. I successfully created 2 partitions as needed for the installation with partition magic with a 2 gig ext2 partition and a 133.3mb swap partition (partition magic wouldn't let me do over 133.3mb for some reason). After that I went into BIOS and made my computer boot from the CD-ROM. So far so good. I continued installation until I got to LILO. I was trying to install LILO onto the master boot of my win98 partition but got an error for some reason, so I created a boot disk and continued installation. Its when I got to the configuration questions things started getting messed up. Now, I could of sworn my mouse was serial, but upon further investigation I found out it was PS/2. I accidentally selected Microsoft IntelliMouse (serial) instead of Microsoft IntelliMouse (PS/2). I had no problems with video card selection (I don't think!). The monitor is the big problem. I browsed the list through and through and couldn't find my monitor listed, nor find the frequencies in any of my manuals. I have the Dell Trinitron 17 inch monitor and selected the Dell VS17 as it was the closest on the list and I thought it might work. I continued installation and everything seemed fine. I selected passwords for root and user then finished the installation and was greeted by a black screen with a monitor error "Scan out of range". I pressed enter and was transfered to a finished install screen and shutdown the computer. Now, every time I try to boot Linux from the bootdisk it takes 5 minutes to load from the disk and I get a black screen with a scan out of range message! Fortunately I can still access windows98 to write you this message. What should I do?? -Will
Re: [newbie] Sound Blaster Live!
The Sound Blaster Live works very well with Mandrake 6 and Cooker. All you have to do is download the latest modules from creative FTP, follow the manual install procedure.For kernel 2.2.9 you best use the 2.2.5 module. To load the module type insmod -f emu10k1 if you get a device busy error, type rmmod soundcore then insmod soundcore insmod -f emu10k1 The kernel mismatch error you get is just a warning and can safely be ignored Patrick Putteman Internet Support Manager Net 7 www.net7.be - Original Message - From: alann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 08, 1999 12:56 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Sound Blaster Live! Jayce Steadman wrote: Hello chaps, anyone been successful in getting the Live working in Mandrake 6.0? I have tried downloading numerous files, but I keep on running into kernel mismaches. Can anyone help? -- --Powered by Linux Mandrake-- Jayce Steadman Icq:- 40694192 I think the mandrake people need to do some work on thier soundcard stuff. I've got a SB PCI128 that "partly" works. It worked fine under Mandrake 5.3. Something changed somewhere. -- === [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Coming to you with Linux-Mandrake 6.0
Re: [newbie] Sound Blaster Live!
to get past the 'device busy', unload the soundcore module (rmmod soundcore) and then manually reload the two modules. If you're talking about sblive, that would be : modprobe soundcore insmod -f emu10k1 sound should work ok. Patrick Putteman Internet Support Manager Net 7 www.net7.be - Original Message - From: Ian Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 08, 1999 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Sound Blaster Live! I bought an SB Live about an hour ago And as a followup, I also get the "device busy" on startup. Recompiled my kernel (2.2.9-19mdk) to make sure sound supportw as installed and told it to include modules for every possible sound card. Running sndconfig doesn't seem to find anything at all. I manually select the "Ensoniq AudioPCI 1370 (SoundBlaster 64/128 PCI)" selection and it added this line to /etc/conf.modules: alias sound es1370 When it tries to play the sample (and also on bootup) I get this error: /lib/modules/2.2.9-19mdk/misc/es1370.o: init_module: Device or resource busy I'm *this* close to losing Windows 95/98/NT forever ... if I can only get this sound card working. I downloaded the four updates from the linux-mandrake.com site and installed all four, recompiled the kernel again, rebuilt the modules and rebooted and still nothing. Thanks for any advice. --- Ian Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] scripting problems
try : echo $IPADDR and verify if the address is what you expect it to be Patrick Putteman Internet Support Manager Net 7 www.net7.be - Original Message - From: Jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 07, 1999 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] scripting problems OK, PATH=$PATH:. worked. I set a variable in that script: IPADDR=`/sbin/ifconfig eth1 | grep "inet addr:" | cut -f2 -d: | cut -f1 -d" "` How can I check if this variable got assigned the proper value? Many tanks for your help, Jo Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote: On Sat, 7 Aug 1999, Jo wrote: [root@host jd]# ls -al rc_fi -rwxrwxr-x 1 root root30090 Aug 7 02:47 rc_fi [root@host jd]# rc_fi bash: rc_fi: command not found The current directory is by default not in the PATH. Either do ./rc_fi, or do export PATH=$PATH:. before running rc_fi. LLaP bero -- Tired of waiting for Windows 2000? STOP WAITING! http://www.ms-windows-2000.com/
Re: [newbie] How to use terminal
If I'm not mistaking, the prompt is the shell Xwindows is the GUI server and on top of that you run a Window Manager in wich you can open a terminal window Patrick Putteman Internet Support Manager Net 7 www.net7.be - Original Message - From: Tom Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 8:38 PM Subject: [newbie] How to use terminal Well I am a computer technician that is 19 yrs. old. I handle all the repair and service at my job. I basically started learning on Win 95 which I know better than my boss, but he knows DOS better than me. I have little knowledge of command line programs and commands. I have taken programming in high school, but it was a joke on apple computers. I know many of windows deeper problems and really want to understand Linux, and the best way I know how to do that is to learn the terminal first. I know I can use the X-windows. I need to find web pages that will teach me how to use the prompt instead of only the shell.
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
Congrats for this wonderful explanation of hard/symlinks. Patrick On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, you wrote: On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Richard Myers wrote: On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Andy Goth wrote: I was about to make that statement earlier, but I then thought it wasn't tre since everything that has been said indicated that hard links point to a single file and when all hard links die the file does as well (and that kinda invalidated what I thought). It's a good thing this isn't the case! It's waaay too complicated and unwieldly. Imagine making a hard link and changing your mind about it... if this was true, I couldn't delete it! The truth is much better. Yeah, that is a good idea about deletion protection. If I want to make sure that some data cannot be deleted, I can keep a hard link. I think that you misunderstand. A hard link is the way that you access a file. BUT, there is only one file. Suppose that we have a file named... well, lets create a file: $ echo put this in a file hardlink_1 $ We have created a file the "quick" way, and we gave it the name hardlink_1. And then we "cat" the file, which shows what is in the file. $ cat hardlink_1 put this in a file $ Hardlink_1 is a text file which has the contents, "put this in a file". OK, lets say it a different way. The echo command sends (we say it re-directs) "put this in a file" into the contents of a file named hardlink_1. The "" character is the nifty command that does this redirection. Lets look at the long display of this file: $ ls -l total 2 -rw-rw-r-- 1 rtm 465 19 Jul 27 02:09 hardlink_1 $ OK, notice that it has a file size of 19 (just before the date). Count the characters in the "string" of characters: 123456789012345678 put this in a file 18. One extra byte to store this string gives us the 19. Now we will add another hard link: $ ln hardlink_1 hardlink_2 $ ...and if we look at our directory again: $ ls -l total 4 -rw-rw-r-- 2 rtm 465 19 Jul 27 02:09 hardlink_1 -rw-rw-r-- 2 rtm 465 19 Jul 27 02:09 hardlink_2 $ Both filenames point to the same file. We can display the contents of both files: $ cat * put this in a file put this in a file $ Well, actually, we displayed the contents of ONE file twice. Once using each filename. The * is a wildcard that matches all filenames in the directory. OK, now for the test. We are going to redirect "nothing" to the first hardlink. $ hardlink_1 $ We have replaced the contents of hardlink_1 with "nothing". Since there is nothing in front of the "", nothing is put into the file, replacing whatever had been there. Notice that we don't even need the echo command to do this. And, ls -l tells the story: $ ls -l total 0 -rw-rw-r-- 2 rtm 4650 Jul 27 02:22 hardlink_1 -rw-rw-r-- 2 rtm 4650 Jul 27 02:22 hardlink_2 $ For further proof, try to cat the contents of the two files (or more accurately, the contents of our ONE file twice): $ cat * $ Nothing there. Soo, a second hard link doesn't "protect" the contents of a file. It only offers another way to access the contents of a file. If we use either hard link to change that file, then the contents are changed. Period. Now, lets create a soft link and put something back into the file: $ ln -s hardlink_1 softlink_1 $ The -s
Re: [newbie] turning KDE off
Type 'linux 3' at the lilo prompt and/or change the initdefault:5 entry in your etc/inittab file to initdefault:3 Patrick - Original Message - From: russ proudman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 5:32 AM Subject: [newbie] turning KDE off I've got KDE set to automatically start whenever I boot up Linux-Mandrake. But I want to exit KDE (not just a shell within KDE) and can't get there. What's the trick to go back to good ol' Linux without auto KDE? Thx. ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Redhat 6 and Soundblaster Live
Did you download and install the SBlive drivers from the Creative development site? If so, did you unload any existing sound drivers from the kernel, including soundcore? Please give us some more info. Patrick On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, you wrote: %_I recently installed a Soundblaster Live on my system and went to configure it with Redhat 6.0...but everytime I do so I receive the message "device is busy"any ideas? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description:
Re: [newbie] blank screen on X
What hardware are you using: Graphic adaptor? Monitor? Please give us some more info Patrick On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, you wrote: %_hi guys, I cant get my X running after I installed linux. I run Xconfigurator, and when it came to the part of testing of the conguration all I get is a blank (black) screen with the mouse pointer. I can move it around though, then a message popped out saying that there was something wrong with my configuration. I tried many combination including the resolution given by the probing, but what I get was still the blank black screen. Can somebody help me ? thx ... btw, I installed Mandrake 6.0 regards, Joe Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description:
Re: [newbie] blank screen on X
The sis 6326 is listed in the supported cards, so that should be OK if you select it. BUT: using 'generic multisync' is probably not a good Idea. You should try to find out what the exact capabilities of the monitor are in horizontal and vertical refresh rates and for max resolution. The manual is usualy a good place to look for, or else the manufacturer's website. Also, the sis 6326 support in Xfree is limited to 24bpp. Don't expect to get more, and, the higher the res you choose, the lower the color depht, this due to the limited amount of ram on the card. Try to boot in command line and mount the cd-rom, then using rpm -Uvh, install the xfree-16vga package and the xff86setup programme, both to be found in the /mandrake/rpms dir. Then, instead of running Xconfigurator, run XF86Setup. This will give you a graphical configuration screen with quite a lot more options than the basic Xconfigurator. Patrick On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, you wrote: I'm using SiS 6326 for the Graphic Card and Compro monitor (since it is not listed I used Generic Multisync for Xconfigurator). And I did try every single resolution possible (8-bit, 16-bit somehow it cannot use 24 bit), but still no effect. Joe - Original Message - From: Patrick Putteman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] blank screen on X What hardware are you using: Graphic adaptor? Monitor? Please give us some more info Patrick On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, you wrote: %_hi guys, I cant get my X running after I installed linux. I run Xconfigurator, and when it came to the part of testing of the conguration all I get is a blank (black) screen with the mouse pointer. I can move it around though, then a message popped out saying that there was something wrong with my configuration. I tried many combination including the resolution given by the probing, but what I get was still the blank black screen. Can somebody help me ? thx ... btw, I installed Mandrake 6.0
Re: [newbie] Redhat 6 and Soundblaster Live
Have a look at http://developer.soundblaster.com/linux If you are using redhat 6, you should be able to run the automatic installation procedure. Patrick On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, you wrote: %_Yeah, that would be great if u could cc the instructions, but where on sb's site am I looking exactlyI have the liveware updates and what not but haven't found what u are referring to quite yet... thanks for your help - Original Message - From: Martin White To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 5:02 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Redhat 6 and Soundblaster Live Have you downloaded the modules from creatives site ?? If not, get them, then i can CC a recent mail to the list with instructions (or you could look in the archive - it was only Friday night / saturday morning i sent it !!) Martin. - Original Message - From: chagilt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 6:43 AM Subject: [newbie] Redhat 6 and Soundblaster Live I recently installed a Soundblaster Live on my system and went to configure it with Redhat 6.0...but everytime I do so I receive the message "device is busy"any ideas? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description:
Re: [newbie] How do I wipe the MBR?
try booting of a win95/98 startup disk and run fdisk /mbr this will restore the mbr to 'normal' and let you reinstall NT or whathever os without lilo popping up all the time BUT: to regain acces to your linux partitions, you will need a linux startup disk and rerun lilo to reinstall it. Patrick - Original Message - From: Ty Mixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 9:15 PM Subject: [newbie] How do I wipe the MBR? I'm trying to re-install WinNT on hda, but every time I try to boot, Lilo jumps in and asks what I want to boot. I need to get rid of that temporarily. How do I do it? I've tried Linuxconf from KDE, but it doesn't stop it. Thanks, Ty
Re: [newbie] SBlive in Mandrake 2.2.9
the sblive works just fine with mandrake 6. Download the driver from the creative labs development site: http://developer.soundblaster.com/linux/ Uncompress it and read the readme file for installation instructions. FOLOW THE MANUAL INSTALLATION PROCEDURE as otherwise the installation script will complain about a wrong kernel version. Use the 2.2.10 module. Do not add anything to conf.modules though. To load the driver, type: modprobe soundcore insmod -f emu10k1 You will get a warning about the module being compiled for a 2.2.10 kernel, and your being a 2.2.9, you can safely ignore this Now, test sound with the mediaplayer and a wav file. Should work. For the module to load at every startup, include the insmod -f command in your rc.local file. Patrick - Original Message - From: Carlos Mayorga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 3:29 AM Subject: [newbie] SBlive in Mandrake 2.2.9 Have any one working SBlive with with mandrake 6.0 kernel 2.2.9 if so please help to make it work please. Thanks in advance... Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] kernel re-compilation
Try make xconfig that will work ;o) Patrick On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, you wrote: I wonder if I can get help with recompiling my kernel in order to support ntfs file system. When I tried "make xconf" it failed saying there are no rules for target xconf. -- Regards, Periklis --- Periklis Christodoulou CSIRO Manufacturing Science Technology RD Manager, Queensland Manufacturing Institute P.O. Box 4012 Eight Mile Plains, Qld 4113 AUSTRALIA e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +61 7 33640720 fax: +61 7 33640786 ---
Re: [newbie] Voodoo 3000
Folow the step by step instructions on www.linux3d.org Worked fine for me Patrick - Original Message - From: bfernand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 10:08 PM Subject: [newbie] Voodoo 3000 I just installed Linux on a separate partition on my Windows 98 PC. All went well xcept for the video card. Mine is a 3dfx Voodoo 3000 AGP. It came with drivers for Windows. I have located drivers for Linux on the web, but I am not clear as to how to install them. They are in "RPM" format and if anyone can provide pointers as to how to install them I'll be forever grateful. TIA, Ben
Re: [newbie] Banshee under LM
Have a look at www.linux3d.org You'll find all the info there - Original Message - From: RB To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 17, 1999 1:46 AM Subject: [newbie] Banshee under LM Hello,Do someone know how I can use my banshee under Xwindows ?I was looking for drivers but I can't find it !!Thank you.
Re: [newbie] LM install - moniter data
Yes, your 'monitor data' is very important as giving wrong data might blow up some older monitors (don't get dramatic about this though, I've maltreated several monitors, and I never had one blowing up in my face) What you need to know about your monitor is: The highest resolution it can handle and for each resolution the maximum horizontal and vertical refresh rates. The best place to look for this is in your monitor's manual, on the manufacturer's website or in newsgroups. Patrick - Original Message - From: Richard Salts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 7:05 PM Subject: [newbie] LM install - moniter data Hello, list: During your LM installation, were you asked about your monitor's highest resolution and refresh rate? I ask this because I watched Leo Laporte and co-host install Linux Red Hat 5.X on one of their computers and the above monitor data was one of the questions that the install process asked for. I looked up on my Win98 monitor properties and, I think, found the highest res. to be 1600 X 1200 but there was no refresh rate specified. Could find that info anywhere. Would that be important to this LM 6.0 install or not? Thanks for any pointers Richard
Re: [newbie] installation problem: no enough disk space
Seems you ran out of space on your root partition. Don't forget, everything you don't put in a separate partition goes in your / Ok, I'll try to make this a step by step. First of all, don't use disk druid to partition your disk, it is a question of taste, but once you get used to fdisk, you'll stick to it. It is way easyer to manipulate. You have a 4.3gig HD, and have 1gig for linux. With 64megs of ram, you'll want about 90megs of swap. When setup offers you the different partitioning tools, select fdisk. First type p to have a look at your current partition table. You should see your 3,4 gig windows partition, marked as fat or vfat-win95. If that is all you have, skip the * * If you have left overs from other installs, get rid of them. Note the numbers of the partitions, and delete every partition except your windows partition. To do this, type d and then the number of the partition you want to delete To create the swap partition, type n folowed by the number of the partition you want to create. Type 1 for the number and accept the default start cylinder. enter +90M for the size. Next you will have to change the partition type. Linux swap is type 83 (double check though by pressing t and looking at the list, I could be wrong for the number). Enter the number of the partition you want to change the type for, and the type of partition you want to change it into. Next, create a / partition. Make this big enough. Unless you want to run a server, you can put all linux in one partition. Ideal is to separate /home and /usr from your / partition, that way, you can keep them untouched in case of a full reinstall. With one gig, I'd create about 700 megs for / and the rest for /home So, press n again, choose the partition number you want to create (you'll be at '3' now) and accept the default start cylinder. Type +700M for the size and leave the type untouched Press n again, choose the partition number (4) and accept the default start cylinder again. This time, also accept the default end cylinder. Have a last look at the partition table pressing p and if all seems OK press w to write the new partitions to disk. Fdisk wil exit and you can continue the install. Next diskdruid will pop up to ask you for the mounting points of your disk. If you want acces to your dos partition, select it and give it a logical name, ex: mount it under /dos the 700 meg partition should recieve / as mounting point, and the 200 meg partition should get /home. Don't mount the swap partition. Exit diskdruid and this time install should just be fine. Hope I was clear with this, I know what I meant, just don't know if I wrote it down in an understandable way ;o) Patrick Brussels Belgium - Original Message - From: Chun-wah Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 8:48 PM Subject: [newbie] installation problem: no enough disk space hi I have installed mandrake 6.0 in my AMD6-2 300 PC with 64MB RAM and 4.3G hard drive. I have tried making 1004MB linux ext2 partition (for path / ) and 70MB swap: 1) by partition magic under win 98; and 2) by disk druid from empty space during installation. however, in either case, I got the following error msgs: (after choosing packages) error msg: You don't appear to have enough disk space to install the packages you've selected. you need more space on the following filesystems: Mount point space needed / 290M I choose "Install anyway". then all packages are installed. (configuration starts) error msg: An error occured during step "configure mouse" of the installlation. then I cannot go further. if I jump to the end by clicking "menu", then I obtain: error msg: I cannnot run /mnt//sbin/mkinitrd: No such file or directory. I have looked for the cdrom, FAQs, manuals, updates and even the redhat 6.0 updates sites and installed the new boot diskette (from mandrake site). but all efforts fail. if you have any idea, pls let me know. thank you in advance. -- chun wah
Re: [newbie] Login passwords
A bios password is totally useless. Bioses can be reset in different ways. Either by removing the battery and putting it back, or if the battery is soldered on the MB, by removing and putting back the bios chip. Some MB's have jumpers to reset a bios. Absolute security for a PC is inexistant Patrick - Original Message - From: Ripcrd6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Login passwords Here's a thought for you. What if somebody comes in and steals your PC. I have a password on my BIOS so if some Ba*tard steals it, all he gets is a doorstop. Maybe if someone knows what they are doing they could clear this, but I want to make it damn difficult. I had my house broke into last year and they took a VCR, TV and camcorder. I doubt they saw my PC in the other room and the dog probably woke up by then, but the neighbor across the street lost tons of stuff. My point, if we all used passwords on PCs like we put locks on our houses, those lowlifes would have less motivation to steal our stuff. /*rant off Brian -Original Message- From: Richard Salts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, list; When only one person ever uses their own computer and they want Linux installed, is it _really_necessary_ for these people to have to login, give a password to get into their own computer if no one else ever uses it? Is there some means that an individual user can get out of having to do this?
Re: [newbie]were do i get my money back
To give help it is important to know HOW EXACTLY the install was initiated to try to track down the problem. Support people don't have a crystal ball where they can discover the steps taken by users. Patrick Not mandrake support - Original Message - From: douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [newbie]were do i get my money back Florin Grad wrote: douglas w buns wrote: i am trying to install (the complete linux operating system 6.0) on an acer aspire w/pentium 100 when the program get to the ( runing install... ) line it stops, nothing happens after this point .i fromated the hard drive an there is nothing on it. i've tried starting in dos and from the doot disk thank you for any help douglas hello there, have you tried to boot from the linux boot disk ? sincerely, -- F. Grad (Technical Support Team) [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are not going to read the e-mail an try to give us any help don't print (30 days free support ) on the box.
[newbie] Missing Posts
I have the strange feeling I'm not getting all the posts in either newbie, expert or cooker mailing lists. Just seems I'm missing some messages of some threads... Anyone else experiencing the same? Patrick
[newbie] Maggelan
Hi, First of all, sorry for cross-posting to expert newbie. On ftp.kde.org in the 'demos' directory, there are screenshots of a mail/news reader called 'magellan' for KDE. Does anyone know where to find it, or will we have to wait for KDE 2 (any news on that one btw?). This packages seems just the thing I'm looking for, combining news and mail in one user-friendly piece of software. Patrick
Re: [newbie] SBLive under Mandrake 6.0
You will find a SBlive driver at http://developer.soundblaster.com/linux The driver is for 2.0.36 and 2.2.5 kernels but can be made to work using insmod -f sblive. Works flawlessly for me, bu... no midi yet :/ Just folow the manual installation procedure and use the 2.2.5 kernel module. Patrick - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 03, 1999 5:24 PM Subject: [newbie] SBLive under Mandrake 6.0 Is it possible to have a SoundblasterLive under Mandrake6.0? There is a driver for SBLive, but just for kernelversions 2.0.36 and 2.2.5. Is it possible to use these drivers, and how can this be done!? I also tried to set up a 2.2.5kernel, but it doesn´t boot properly. I think the problems are caused during the loading of the modules. Is it possible to run different kernels of different kernelversions on the same system!? Can anybody help me with this! thanks stefan
Re: [newbie] VMWARE
Vmware works fine on the original mandrake 6.0 kernel (2.2.19) but stops working and crashes with a segfault with the latenst kernel update from mandrake Patrick .. On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, you wrote: Hi Has anyone managed to successfully get VMWARE(any version) working on linux-mandrake? I can get it installing fine, the configuration wizard works, but then when I hit the power on button, it crashes and gives me a segmentation fault. On the website www.vmware.com it says it works fine with redhat 6.0 so I assumed it would work perfectly with Mandrake. The error looks like this: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address c7c3d2o8 current -tss.cr3=07c3f000, %cr3 = 07c3f000
Re: [newbie] Burning CD from ISO image
A PIII450 with 392Mb ram and an cd writer on a scsi controller shouldn't have these kind of problems. Mine doesn't and is happily burning every other CD I can find without missing one. It's just the mandrake ISO that doesn't work. I've tried ISO's from different download sites and all with the same result :o( - Original Message - From: Jesse Royall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Burning CD from ISO image Patrick... my solution: quit using Imation CDs I had the same problem... also, when I burned the ISO (after 11 disks the 12th one worked) it wasn't bootable like they said. What I do when I burn a CD and you probably do also, I use cachman which is a program for controlling your cache and it setups windows for a CD Writer and then shut everything down that isn't necessary. and then burn it. Other than that ... don't know what to tell ya. On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 07:58:37 +0100 "Patrick Putteman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, Might be a basic question, but I ran into this problem and can't find the sollution: Back when Mandrake 5.2 and 6 ISO's appeared on the FTP mirrors, I could just grab it and use EASY-CD Creator PRO 3.5 to burn them and end up with a bootable CD. As far as I recall, I didn't use any special settings. Now, with the ISO image of 6.1, I end up with a wasted CD as after burning, all filenames on the CD are truncated. Not in the dos 8.3 way, but filenames are cut after the first 8 characters, and extensions after the first 3. I've checked the ISO image with Winimage and the image contains the correct filenames. Anyone any Idea to help me out here. I wasted 11 CD's uptill now :o( Patrick Putteman Internet Support Manager Net7 - Member of the Advalvas Group www.net7.be www.advalvas.be ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
