Re: [[newbie] pppd problem]
My ISP [and former employer] uses DHCP and all addresses are server assigned. Will it accept a quad 0 address? Andy Goth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With Mandrake 6.0, I'm trying to connect to the Internet using this new 56K modem. It dials... it connects... and then it disconnects. It says something about pppd timing out. I've attached my PPP-logfile. Maybe it'll help. === Have you appropriately edited your /etc/reolve.conf? add search your isp nameserver dns# provided by your isp nameserver dns# provided by your isp That should do it 8^) Mike Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Modem difficulties
Original Message Follows From: Rick Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is. So, forget all these .config files we seem to have to manually edit with wonderful devices such as VI. [BLEAH!!] You know, there _are_ more intuitive editors out there--lots of them, in fact. I like pico, but kedit is pretty good as well. Of course, there aren't that many cases any more where you _have_ to manually edit the .conf files, as software like linuxconf and others tend to work as well. Also, I guess this means you've never had to hack the Windows registry? Nope. Never have. In as much as I'm comfortable using regedit, I've never had to use it to get something to work. That's not the point. Having to manually edit things was one of the major downfalls of OffulStinky/2. Then, of course, they were plagued by bad management, marketing and just a plain gawd awful stupid looking system. Heck, I'm running 2000 release candidate 1 now. Yes, the betas had their problems. But, that's why they call them BETA!!! When you can make a version of this Linux, whether it be Red Hat or Mandrake, that's better at plug 'n play than Windows, maybe more of us will start using it on a more pronounced basis. "So, quitcherbeleakin" yourself. Linux is getting much better at PnP, though it admittedly isn't to the level of Windows yet. Windows isn't anywhere near the level of the Mac, either, so why are you holding Windows out as the holy grail of PnP? Because it is. Unix has been around eons before Mr. Gates' MSDOS or even Windows. You'd think that someone would have gotten it right by now. Gates took the MacIntrash environment and made it work. One of my many employment endeavors was collecting shareware and freeware for the PC, Mac, Amiga [now THERE's an underrated machine] and the Atari. I've been there, done that and saw the movie. My first computer was in 1979. It was a TRS-80 Model I Level I with 16K of memory and the only storage device was a casette recorder. That was back just before the Crapple ][ came out with it's TRS-80 wannabe style. ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!
I'll be the first to admit that the monitor that I use is a $200 special at Sears. And, I too am getting the black on black menus and background until I put a graphic back there. Then the labels are black on black and so are the menus until I highlight them. Right now, I'm using Windows 2000 release candidate 1 with the monitor set at 1280x1024 at 24 bit color with NO problems like I'm getting in Linux. Even Windows 98 second edition uses these parameters. Original Message Follows I had a similar video configuration problem. The default setting Xconfigurator was choosing was giving a black screen with blackish icons (I think that means that the refresh rates don't synch). My problem was solved by manually choosing my display settings in Xconfigurator. Another thing I tried is reducing the type of monitor to one not quite so good (in custom monitor section). My monitor, being on the cheaper end of the scale does not work well at its maximum settings. By reducing the setting the picture quality improved considerably. I suffered similar problems using my hardware with Windows 95. My monitor does not perform well at its maximum refresh rates etc and I have terrible problems under Win95 with my AWE64 soundcard. If the soundcard is enabled in the device manager, Windows will not boot. I have to boot with the soundcard disabled and then manually turn on the soundcard using Device tab - a real pain in the arse if you forget to turn it off at the end of the session (Windows crashes on startup, reboot into safe mode, turn soundcard off, reboot again). I might have problems with sound permissions with my Linux box, but at least the card makes noise! -Original Message- From:Rick Fry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:Friday, 20 August 1999 9:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!! My sentiments exactly. I finally got my video configuration to go 1024x768 but the menus [for the most part] are black on black. This makes it just a tad difficult to read. Original Message Follows Well I think I am going to give up on my install of Mandrake. I cannot get it to recognize my modem or sound card. I have found out the my modem is on Com3 IRQ11 but have found no way.. even with everyones help of finding it or configuring it. As for my sound card it is found by linux when it boots.. but it aborts putting it in memory because it is sharing an IRQ with another item on the PCI bus.. which is fine in windows but not in linux I guess.. So thanks all for your help.. but this is just not hardware friendly enough for my current system. I guess if I want to run Linux I am going to have to build a specific box with all the specific hardware able to be detected and run. James ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Newbie Asks: What Is The Thumbtack For?
Now that I know about AutoMount and Sticky, how do I tell Linux to use AutoMount? Which one of those wonderful .config files do I have to edit? Also, how do I change from that KDE back to Gnome? I think I prefer that to KDE. Thanks. Original Message Follows Sevatio Octavio wrote: In KDE... What is "Sticky" the Thumbtack used for? To keep that specific window on the screen if you change virtual desktops (clicking on the 'One', 'Two', etc) -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!
Original Message Follows Rick Fry wrote: If you're happy being a user, that's fine. There are plenty of people in the world that just want things to work when they sit down at them. My parents are those kinds of people. I have no problem with it, just don't shit on the parade of those of us who really LIKE making things work together that probably don't belong together. There is a price you pay (right now) for using Linux. That price is diminished hardware support "out of the box". It could even be as steep as "it will never work with Linux" (in the case of WinModems). Most of us are perfectly willing to pay that price for an operating system and supporting applications that don't nickel and dime us to death trying to get some work done. I don't have any inkling of encouraging my parents to move to Linux. The things they want to do are not available with it. However, they also don't have the kind of power and flexibility on their machine that I have with mine. To each their own... -- Actually the same thing can be said for all the Windows bashing folks that have the same amount of troubles getting that to work. I do have the "power and flexibility" but obviously not the right kind. I just became unemployed so I obviously don't have the financial resources to go out and buy the equipment necessary to make Linux work as ideally as my Windows does. But, that will hopefully change as I have several interviews scheduled for next week. Hopefully my 20 years of working with computers will be good for something. ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
RE: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future
I can fake email addresses, too. When I used to write messages in the adult
newsgroups, I was [EMAIL PROTECTED] That doesn't mean the
domain actually exists. I don't care what the header said, this Rick Fry at
hotmail.com did NOT write that.
Original Message Follows
Rick Fry wrote:
I did NOT write that. As I said in a previous post, I don't resort
to writing these types of messages. I gave up on that years ago when I
realized that there are more effective ways to get a point across. And I
resent the implication that I'm a moron. I'm only 56 years old and haven't
yet reached that plateau. Looks like somebody needs to learn how to cut and
paste stuff in their respective editors. One more time, RICK FRY DID NOT
WRITE THAT
EXPLETIVE DELETED MESSAGE
It's not a matter of somebody needing "to learn how to cut and paste
stuff...". The following is how the original message that started this looks
to me. Please notice the "From" field. I did not cut a paste this:
-Original Message-----
From: Rick Fry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 10:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [newbie] Not getting anywhere
I give up on this stupid fucking so-called operating system!
It's totally F*G USELESS
Windows is FAR superior and you bunch of sad
losers are just wasting your lives.
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-Original Message-----
From: Rick Fry [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 9:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [newbie] OT:Trolls - Past, Present and Future
I did NOT write that. As I said in a previous post, I don't resort
to
writing these types of messages. I gave up on that years ago when I
realized
that there are more effective ways to get a point across. And I
resent the
implication that I'm a moron. I'm only 56 years old and haven't yet
reached
that plateau. Looks like somebody needs to learn how to cut and
paste stuff
in their respective editors. One more time, RICK FRY DID NOT WRITE
THAT
EXPLETIVE DELETED MESSAGE
Original Message Follows
Just a thought for all the good people at Mandrake and the
good people on this list. It might be in order to deny
access to this list to any accounts from any of the
anonymous mail services.
I have seen these seen far too much abuse of these services
by spammers and other morons (not pointing my finger directly
at Rick Fry, who am I kidding, yes I am). I feel if the
interest in this list is genuine there is no need to hide
behind the curtain of an anonymous service and it would
free up the list from this kind of moronic abuse.
Ken Wilson
Not as small 'l' liberal as I used to be.
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Re: [newbie] Not getting anywhere!!
My sentiments exactly. I finally got my video configuration to go 1024x768 but the menus [for the most part] are black on black. This makes it just a tad difficult to read. Original Message Follows Well I think I am going to give up on my install of Mandrake. I cannot get it to recognize my modem or sound card. I have found out the my modem is on Com3 IRQ11 but have found no way.. even with everyones help of finding it or configuring it. As for my sound card it is found by linux when it boots.. but it aborts putting it in memory because it is sharing an IRQ with another item on the PCI bus.. which is fine in windows but not in linux I guess.. So thanks all for your help.. but this is just not hardware friendly enough for my current system. I guess if I want to run Linux I am going to have to build a specific box with all the specific hardware able to be detected and run. James ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Modem difficulties
I'm sorry Gavin but as one that just left a position as technical support for a medium sized ISP after almost 2 years, I can say that most of my customers are smart enough to not expect that mythical 56K speed. For the most part, we're aware that the speed is multidependent in that it comes close to the restrictions on DSL connects. Things like number of pairs in any given cable, the ambient temperature around those pairs and the possibility of noise from outside influences including the number of birds sitting on any given cable and how many of their toes are touching the wires. They would, however, like to achieve at least 33.6K or at least the average 40K connect speeds. Also, you *nix guys that seem to have nothing but bad things to say about Windows are slowly realizing what some of us are finding out about *nix in a more pronounced way. Obviously these vendors, such as Diamond and others, that refuse to write drivers for *nix must know something that we don't. Somebody once commented about the plug 'n play capabilities of Windows. I'm finding that it's even less pronounced in *nix. So, quitcherbeleakin. Some of us don't really care how to make a watch. We just want to know what time it is. So, forget all these .config files we seem to have to manually edit with wonderful devices such as VI. [BLEAH!!] When you can make a version of this Linux, whether it be Red Hat or Mandrake, that's better at plug 'n play than Windows, maybe more of us will start using it on a more pronounced basis. It's starting to sound like the OS/2 wars we used to get into years ago. Then, let's not forget about CP/M even a few more years ago that I owned 3 different copies of that were totally incompatible with each other. Forget the competition. [Oh yeah, I'm leaving my position as technical support because of an acquisition and a merger. Not because of anything I did.] Original Message Follows On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, you wrote: You'd be amazed at how many people connect at 49k and then we look at there actual speed on the terminal server and its like 40k. this used to be a big flaw in the old x2. I think v.90 is the worst thing since windows. Anyone who doesnt connect at the impossible 56,000 thinks that there isp is messed up little do they know that their is many factors that play roles in your connect speed. Regards, Gavin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ENTER.NET - "The Road to the Internet Starts Here!" (tm) (610) 437-2221 * http://www.enter.net/ * email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] KDE won't load at all!
Yeah. But on the upside, there's supposed to be a 3.5 version of the XFree86 coming out soon. Hopefully that will address the lacking of support for the Diamond A50 card. Original Message Follows On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Rick Fry wrote: That's the same thing I get when I try to modify the X86 config file trying to put in the correct frequencies for my monitor so I can get better graphics. Unless I can get at least 1024x768 in 24 bit color, FreeBSD is looking pretty good right now. Oh well, another $80 bucks. It probably won't help much - FreeBSD and Linux use the same implementation of X (XFree86 3.3.something). LLaP bero -- Tired of waiting for Windows 2000? STOP WAITING! http://www.ms-windows-2000.com/ ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
RE: [newbie] KDE won't load at all!
Basically it goes through all the various video settings in XF86Config and says it can't use any of them and drops back to the command prompt with the "Cannot connect with the X server" error. I get the same damned thing. With two versions of Windows running at 1280x1024 with 24 bit color, I don't really want to use 800x600 with 256 colors. Can't wait for the new 3.5 version of XFree86. Original Message Follows What kind of error msg's are you getting? Somewhere in those msg's lies the answer to what is not starting (my biggest offender has been the mouse). Regards, Joseph Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Company Cleveland, OH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 12:06 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:[newbie] KDE won't load at all! KDE won't load it says "Error: Can't connect With X server" and it repeats other error messages that are similar to that X server error. attach3 ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Linux or Mandrake
Mandrake took Red Hat's source code and modified it. The differences can only be really determined by what hardware you have to run it on. Original Message Follows Can someone tell me what is the difference between Mandrake Linux and Red Hat Linux ? Advantages and/or disadvantages? Dave Reinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.WoodsideDelSer.com ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [[newbie] Linux for home consumers?]
What does it take to write a video card driver that some hotshot unix guru programmer can't come up with? If they can talk the talk, how about trying to walk the walk? I keep hearing about what geniuses inhabit the Unix crowd, how about putting up or shutting up? Original Message Follows On 16-Aug-99 Rick Fry wrote: That 'silly reason' is that like most manufacturers Diamond does not bother making Linux drivers for its products. You're throwing your blame in the wrong direction. -Tom ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] KDE won't load at all!
That's the same thing I get when I try to modify the X86 config file trying to put in the correct frequencies for my monitor so I can get better graphics. Unless I can get at least 1024x768 in 24 bit color, FreeBSD is looking pretty good right now. Oh well, another $80 bucks. Original Message Follows KDE won't load it says "Error: Can't connect With X server" and it repeats other error messages that are similar to that X server error. ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Boot hang
I just set my partitions up witht he swap and the / linux native and Mandrake did the rest. Get it installed first and then decide what other goodies you want to add. That's one of the many bugs in RedHat's install program. Mine kept wanting to toss a double slash in the path to one of the segments it was installing. When I went for the / native and the swap, all installed just fine. Original Message Follows I have a P100, 48 megs, 6.4 gig system that I did the standard server install from Mandrake 6.0 after partitioning the drive using fdisk. After getting an initial disk error "1790", it recognized my disk properly as a Maxtor 90648D3 6.4 gig and I was allowed to create "hda1" of 128 megs for SWAP, "hda2" 4 gigs for "/" linux native and activated, and "hda3" for "/home". I then was sent into Disk Druid and renamed hda2 as "/" and saved. The installation went perfect(supposedly) but when I reboot I still get the the 1790 Disk Error and the the system hangs after printing "LI_". I tried to use the emergency disk created during the install and the same thing happens. Any suggestions? Victor ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] KDE won't load at all!
I haven't even configured my network yet and still get that error. It's talking about the X server. Not the network server. We're just trying to get Linux [RedHat OR Mandrake] to give us more than 800x600 with 256 colors. Original Message Follows have you been messing with network settings? On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, you wrote: KDE won't load it says "Error: Can't connect With X server" and it repeats other error messages that are similar to that X server error. -- Brett Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Any HTML editors for X?
Another good place to check is www.tucows.com where they've built up a great linux area of software. Original Message Follows At 02:51 16/08/99 -0700, you wrote: IS there any good GUI HTML editing software out there that can be used in X-Windows? I would like to make a web page and upload it to my web site at Geocities. Postman I quite liked BlueFish - "http://bluefish.linuxbox.com" Although not up there with the likes of HotMetal, I found it pretty useful. hih nick@nexnix ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [[newbie] Linux for home consumers?]
Cute. I'm running Mandrake 6.0 with crummy graphics, Windows 98 second edition and Windows 2000 release candidate 1 with 1280 by 1024 by 24 bit graphics and I haven't seen a bsod in months. I'm running on a celeron 400 with 128M of ram and 20G of disk space. Haven't frozen up or crashed in that many months either. In as much as I'm willing to learn Linux/Unix, you guys need to get out of the Windows 95/Windows 3.1 syndrome. Windows has grown up lately and it's obviously passed you by. Ooops, I take that back. The machine has frozen up a couple of times trying to get my version of Red Hat to give me better graphics. Original Message Follows I've only been using linux since May and it's now just about all I use at home. It's as easy to use as windows. In fact, I foret I'm not in windows, except no BSOD ;o) ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Not for Average Users (Was: Linux for home consumers?)
I'm running release candidate 1 as we speak. In 1280x1024 at 24 bit color, by the way. Original Message Follows -- Tired of waiting for Windows 2000? STOP WAITING! http://www.ms-windows-2000.com/ ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Linux drive disappeared!
Unless there's a 3rd party utility to do it, you won't. I have Win 98 and Win 2000 sharing a 13G drive and Linux on it's own 5.7G drive. Windows [either flavor] can't see the Linux drive. Original Message Follows I am running Linux and Windows 98 on the same computer but on different hard drives. After setting aside a 2.1 Gb drive ( drive D:\ ) for the Linux OS, I installed Linux successfully. But when I go into windows, it seems to not recognize the drive where I am storing the Linux OS. What was drive E now becomes drive D. And now, when I open My Computer, both the E: drive and F: drives have the cd-rom icon. Originally, my F: drive is my CD-ROM drive. How do I make Windows recognize the Linux drive? Or is there another way to solve this problem?? thanks, Brandon ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] word processing and finance apps
The rumor mill reports that Intuit may be working on a Linux version of Quicken and you've got WordPerfect 8 [download version] on one of the 5 disks that came with Mandrake. Original Message Follows anyone got any suggestions on what word processing or simple check book balancing programs to use for linux? i am used to ms word, so i would like something that has comparable features. also, i tried to run cbb (checkbook balancer) that comes with mandrake 6.0, but it wont run and gives lots of errors. :P ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Linux drive disappeared!
Cool it with the Windoze, eh? They're the only two systems I have that actually work on my machine right now. I had RedHat 6 and then overwrote it with Mandrake. Several folks that I highly respect as programmers have told me that RedHat 6 has so many buggies in it that it makes NT 4.0 look good. They also feel that RedHat 6's masking is either excessively broken or nonexistant. IMHO that's BAD. Even Mandrake is giving me hissy fits. This stupid graphics problem is driving me up the walls and I'm not buying a new monitor because it can't be supported by Linux. Original Message Follows From: brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do I make Windows recognize the Linux drive? Or is there another way to solve this problem?? You don't--the Linux filesystem is a format which is unreadable by Windows. There are some utilities which can read it under Windoze, however. ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Linux? Is there such a thing???
I've been all over Microsoft's site. I don't see anyplace there is one. I have, however, heard rumors of such a beast. Should you get a better answer to your message, I'd sure like to know too. Thanks. Original Message Follows I see that Netscape supports Linux. Does Internet Explorer support Linux too? If so, where is the SPECIFIC web page that i go to download it? Please don't say www.microsoft.com/download. Please be more specific than that. Postman ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Linux? Is there such a thing???
It's me again. This should answer your question: Micrsoft doesn't support Internet Explorer for Linux James Ryan Thursday Mar 18, 1999 Occupation: PROGRAMMER Location: TORONTO No emotion for me. Fact is Micrsoft doesn't support Internet Explorer for Linux. Hence Netscape is my best choice. When Microsoft decides to give up their 'not invented here' syndrome and support the same platforms as Netscape, THEN I may switch. Until then, IE is simply not a strong enough reason to downgrade to Windows Original Message Follows I see that Netscape supports Linux. Does Internet Explorer support Linux too? If so, where is the SPECIFIC web page that i go to download it? Please don't say www.microsoft.com/download. Please be more specific than that. Postman ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] more about partition trouble
I didn't use the boot disks. I just told my machine to boot from the CD Rom and it did. Fully installed it from there. Original Message Follows I tried to load Linux from my boot disk, but I am not able to, If I am unable to start the setup program to use a linux disk, how will I be able to use disk druid or fdisk for linux??? Thanks in advance! Nighthawk ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and the modem
As far as I'm concerned, WinModems and ALL HCF modems rate down there along with Rockwell's original RPI modem. Leave the processing power in the MODEM. Don't expect the CPU to handle the tasks. WinModems don't even work all that well in Windows. Why should we expect them to work at all in Linux or any other operating system? The only reason they're as popular as they are is because they're CHEAP!!! Wholesalers can buy them CHEAP and they can sell them to you CHEAP. Believe me, CHEAP ain't always good. I used to work for a fellow that had a medium priced sound system store. He had a sign that said "We don't mind competitors that sell their products for less. Some folks just don't care if the get their oats AFTER the horse has eaten them." Original Message Follows From: Singer XJ Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kernal 2.4.x series will support WinModems. Linux has already called for a Feature Freeze for 2.4.x in a week. Remeber. the upgrade from 2.2 to 2.4 OK, we're freezing features in a week for 2.4, and there's currently (even in 2.3.11) no support for Winmodems--not even a hint of it, but it's going to be there for 2.4? Somehow I don't think so. Maybe over the course of 2.4.x (that is, before we get to 2.6.x) it may be integrated, but I doubt even that. Considering that each Winmodem is potentially a completely different device, I really don't think we're going to see this any time soon--nor do I think the developers should waste their time on it. XFS, OTOH, sounds seriously cool. ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
