RE: [newbie] OTM$ to stop shipping windoze?
The funniest thing about all this is that they're threatening to stop shipping it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Davidson Sent: 15 March 2002 17:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] OTM$ to stop shipping windoze? On Friday 15 March 2002 11:47 am, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 19:07, Bill Davidson wrote: Anyone think they would do it? http://theregister.co.uk/content/4/24278.html Bill It is a smokescreen to scare everybody (snicker) and also an obscenely blatant posture posed to gain sympathy for their case. If the DOJ hadn't been bought off by Republican lobbying by M$, (they spent 24 million on the republicans, btw) it's entirely probable that they would have been broken up by now. There have been three judges on this case; and in every case, Microsoft (through its MSNBC news services and other means) have been able to push the view that these judges were biased. This trend is unparalleled as far as I know. Judge Colleen is probably going to be the last stop; the biased judge routine was old before it started. Actually, I believe that M$ might have tied in the code for IE with windoze so that they could say 'See, look what happens when you remove IE'. They think everyone is dumb and they can just paint their own picture of how things are and that's the way it will be. Of course that's their problem and they'll have to rework windoze if that's in fact true. I think it would be corporate suicide if they were to stop shipping windoze. Bill Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] laptop
I would be interested too, as I recently bought 8.1 only to find it wouldn't work on my ancient laptop. I am currently having to use doze 3.1 *shudder* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of shane Sent: 14 March 2002 06:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] laptop does anyone know a good place to buy older/used laptops online? and any recommendations as to what to get? i am only looking for a pent II or equiv, and it has to run mandrake 8.1 (shocked aren't you?) but othere than that i am open to suggestions? recommended brands, resellers, refurbs, etc. thanks! -- Veni, Vidi, Linux. I came, I saw, I got a real OS shane http://shentzu.home.mindspring.com/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org/ cause humans do it better! Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Mandrake's financial situation
i think the letter from employer is probablyan automaticly added signature that the company puts on themselves. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dimitris IoannouSent: 12 March 2002 10:49To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake's financial situation Hello to you Richard From what I have read visiting Mandrakes home page I understand that they really are in trouble so I hurried and subscribe myself to the Mandrake Users Club and intending to buy the new 8.2 Release to support them more.They face, I think, the dilemma of cutting out personnel in order to cut their expenses which are by far bigger than their revenues. It goes without saying, that this will affect the development of their future releases. I think everyone should support an excellent OS like LM since everyone benefits from the use of it, or it's existence, whatever you prefer. After all, the cost (60USD per year is too little compared to what one should pay when using M$ XP for instance. Regards Dimitris P.S. Question: I really didn't understand what the letter of your employer that you are enclosing is about.Why did he sent you this and what is this has to do with Mandrake's need for money? Forgive me if I, sometimes, am slowminded and don't understand some things. Ï/Ç "Barran, Richard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ýãñáøå: Morning all,I've received a very interesting "Mandrake Community Newsletter" thismorning. I'm including here the two most relevant paragraphs:"Even though all of us here at MandrakeSoft are excited about the upcoming release, we've also been distracted by financial concerns. Despite continuous good reviews in the press; despite having millions of users throughout the world; despite producing an award-winning Linux distribution that is a solid competitor to both UNIX and Window$, the Mandrake Linux distribution's short-term future is in jeopardy due to a simple factor: money.As a company, we make our revenue by selling packaged versions of the distribution and by delivering services such as consulting, training,etc. -- but our development costs and community-based services are notyet covered by income. It is estimated that! we will "break even" by theend of 2002, but it is unlikely that MandrakeSoft can remain unchangedduring these next few months without drastically cutting costs unlessadditional revenue is generated quickly."The newsletter then goes on to urge people to sign up to Mandrake Club ASAP.I received a newsletter from the Club yesterday which also hinted at"financial troubles".I haven't seen this mentioned yet by anyone on either this list or on theexpert list. Is this a bit of scaremongering or is Mandrake really in direstraits?Regards,RichardPS Here follows a short message from my employer's legal department...***This e-mail and its attachments are intended for the above named recipient(s) only and are confidential and may be privileged.If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must y! ou copy or disclose them or any part of their contents to any person or organisation; please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail and its attachments from your computer system.Please note that Internet communications are not necessarily secure and may be changed, intercepted or corrupted. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us and we will not accept any liability for any such changes, interceptions or corruptions. Although we have taken steps to ensure that this e-mail and its attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free.Copyright in this e-mail and attachments created by us belongs to Littlewoods. Littlewoods takes steps to prohibit the transmission of offensive, obscene or discriminatory material. If this message contains inapprop! riate material please forward the e-mail intact to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it will be investigated. Statements and opinions contained in this e-mail may not necessarily represent those of Littlewoods.Please note that e-mail communication may be monitored.Registered office: Littlewoods Retail Limited, Sir John Moores Building, 100 Old Hall Street, Liverpool,L70 1AB Registered no: 421258 http://www.littlewoods.com ***Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Do You Yahoo!?ÁðïêôÞóôå ôçí äùñåÜí óáò @yahoo.gr äéåýèõíóç óôï Yahoo! Mail.
RE: [newbie] mandrake 7.0
What do you mean by the 486 optimized version? Tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erylon Hines Sent: 01 March 2002 21:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 7.0 I've run the 7.0 486 optimized version on a P90 (packard hell) and it worked just fine. The only item built in was a 1M CL video card. So, the answer is probably, depending on what hardware you have plugged into your Olivetti. If your hardware is pretty standard stuff I'd say give it a try, if you have non-ide drives you might want to use another distro for easier setup. If you have the 486 optimized version I think you should use that one instead of the Pentium version--in my experience it works better with the sloow Pentiums. It'll be a learning experience because you're going to have to do a lot of work setting up your hardware. BTW, I have a working P75 with the 486-7.0 sitting in my garage, so it works on even slower machines. e. On Fri, 1 Mar 2002 16:24:01 - Tom Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if Mandrake 7.0 would work on an Ollivetti Echo P90s? Please reply, Tom. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] mandrake 7.0
What is meant by optimized though? Tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Rodríguez Sent: 05 March 2002 16:50 To: newbie Subject: RE: [newbie] mandrake 7.0 The different versions of Mandrake (and most RPM programs) are compiled for certain processors. This means that the human-readable source code in which the program is written is translated into computer-readable bits and bytes in the language specific to each type of computer chip. Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote a great explanation of this back in August that I still refer to. (found here: http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie%40linux-mandrake.com/msg75668.html ) He wrote: i386 = intel 80386 and compatible. i486 = intel 80486 and compatible. i586 = anything built on intel Pentium technology, including Pentium MMX. i686 = anything built on intel Pentium Pro technology, including Pentium II/III and Celeron. The Pentium 4 is an entirely new chip, and for the moment has no specific compilers. Since x86 chips are backwards-compatible, you can use i686 packages. AMD Athlons and Durons have their own architecture (and even their own compilation options in gcc), but are also compatible with i686. The AMD K6 series is Pentium-class, and so is 1586 compatible. Does this mean that my current distro doesn't use the full capacity of my cpu? Would the system run faster/better with the i686 edition? Usually the speed boost isn't large enough to make a real difference. That doesn't stop me from compiling all my packages for i686, though :-) == To which i would add, that if you run across an rpm which says PPC, it is compiled for PowerPC processors (Macintosh), and if it says src, it is actually not compiled, but contains the instructions to compile it yourself, so would work on any type of chip. Let me know if this makes any sense. - Paul Rodriguez On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 11:28, Tom Harris wrote: What do you mean by the 486 optimized version? Tom. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] mandrake 7.0
Where can I download the 7.0 486 optimized version? I can't find it on the mandrake website. Tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erylon Hines Sent: 01 March 2002 21:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 7.0 I've run the 7.0 486 optimized version on a P90 (packard hell) and it worked just fine. The only item built in was a 1M CL video card. So, the answer is probably, depending on what hardware you have plugged into your Olivetti. If your hardware is pretty standard stuff I'd say give it a try, if you have non-ide drives you might want to use another distro for easier setup. If you have the 486 optimized version I think you should use that one instead of the Pentium version--in my experience it works better with the sloow Pentiums. It'll be a learning experience because you're going to have to do a lot of work setting up your hardware. BTW, I have a working P75 with the 486-7.0 sitting in my garage, so it works on even slower machines. e. On Fri, 1 Mar 2002 16:24:01 - Tom Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if Mandrake 7.0 would work on an Ollivetti Echo P90s? Please reply, Tom. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mandrake 7.0
Does anyone know if Mandrake 7.0 would work on an Ollivetti Echo P90s? Please reply, Tom. attachment: winmail.dat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://wwwmandrakestorecom
RE: [newbie] read this steve flynn!
woops! wrong email... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris Sent: 02 February 2002 19:32 To: Newbie@Linux-Mandrake. Com Subject: [newbie] read this steve flynn! Steve, Please can you send me a copy of 6.5 on a CD like you suggested. Contact me off mailing list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Tom. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] read this steve flynn!
Steve, Please can you send me a copy of 6.5 on a CD like you suggested. Contact me off mailing list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Tom. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
that is the laptop i've got. tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin Sent: 27 January 2002 20:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 I think you have a Pentium 90, check this page too see if it fit what you have in hand http://www.seindal.dk/rene/linux/echos.php3 You mentioned that you hit Enter at the main menu, have you tried F1? Type test or vgalo at the prompt. Just a thought, can you use boot disk and start install with the 2nd disk? Robin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Harris Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 12:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 h... i don't know what machine i have got, how do i find out? i would rather not install previous versions because i got this one packaged in a shop which cost £30! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: 27 January 2002 18:51 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Didn't you get a LILO: prompt on screen? If so, try typing Linux, or just hitting enter again. If your machine hung, then I suspect you might be trying to install a 586 compiled distribution on something which isn't quite a 586! If you are desperate, I can burn you a copy of mandrake 6.5 which I think would install onto a 486 based machine... -Original Message- From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 that kind of worked. i got to the main menu screen, pressed enter and then just got a blank screen with Mandrake Linux 8.1 at the top. please help! tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin Sent: 27 January 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 According to Linux-on-laptops, it is possible. Here is how To install Linux from at CD-Rom, you need the cable that comes with the computer to attach the floppy drive to the parallel port. The procedure is as follows. Turn the computer off. Place the CD drive in the bay, and connect the floppy drive to the parallel port with the cable. Fasten the screws firmly. Now turn the machine on and press F2 to enter the setup. Find the configuration menu for integrated peripherals and change the mode of the parallel port to FDD mode. Initially it will probably be Uni-directional or Bi-directional. Save and exit the setup, and when the system boots, the now external floppy drive will be A:. From this point on your have a normal system with both floppy and CD-ROM drive and you can install as usual. If you want more information, here is the link http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/olivetti.html Hmmm, just a side note, judging from your model number, I am guessing it's Pentium 90, are you sure you want to put 8.1 on it? 8.1 does take quite a bit of resource to run it smoothly. Robin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:33 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform a Hard-drive install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install from that, rather than a CD. -Original Message- From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS doesn't recognise it! tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've checked and sadly it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-( Tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot? It must be a truely ancient laptop if it doesn't. It's not a Dell Insprion is it? What normally happens is that the CDROM can be connected top the parallel port via a special cable which carries the signal and enough power for the drive -Original Message- From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM
RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
i have 40mb of ram. here is what the bios says about the processor (copied exactly): CPU [90mhz]: Pentium i don't know whether that means pentium 1 or not but the website robin suggested says that i have a Pentium 90. tom. p.s. i was worried that i would have to use another version but i don't know whether PC WORLD would give me a refund and if they don't i would rather not just chuck it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: 27 January 2002 20:35 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Upon boot-up, when the BIOS messages are being displayed, there are normally messages informing you of the CPU speed, the type of processor detect, the amount of detect RAM and so forth. What type of processor is detected? A Pentium II hopefully. Also, how much ram is installed in this laptop - you really want 32+ meg, and ideally 64 or 128 if you wish to use some of the prettier window managers. I'm afraid we're going to be telling you that you should take the package back to the shop and obtain a refund! :( -Original Message- From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 8:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 h... i don't know what machine i have got, how do i find out? i would rather not install previous versions because i got this one packaged in a shop which cost £30! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: 27 January 2002 18:51 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Didn't you get a LILO: prompt on screen? If so, try typing Linux, or just hitting enter again. If your machine hung, then I suspect you might be trying to install a 586 compiled distribution on something which isn't quite a 586! If you are desperate, I can burn you a copy of mandrake 6.5 which I think would install onto a 486 based machine... -Original Message- From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 that kind of worked. i got to the main menu screen, pressed enter and then just got a blank screen with Mandrake Linux 8.1 at the top. please help! tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin Sent: 27 January 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 According to Linux-on-laptops, it is possible. Here is how To install Linux from at CD-Rom, you need the cable that comes with the computer to attach the floppy drive to the parallel port. The procedure is as follows. Turn the computer off. Place the CD drive in the bay, and connect the floppy drive to the parallel port with the cable. Fasten the screws firmly. Now turn the machine on and press F2 to enter the setup. Find the configuration menu for integrated peripherals and change the mode of the parallel port to FDD mode. Initially it will probably be Uni-directional or Bi-directional. Save and exit the setup, and when the system boots, the now external floppy drive will be A:. From this point on your have a normal system with both floppy and CD-ROM drive and you can install as usual. If you want more information, here is the link http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/olivetti.html Hmmm, just a side note, judging from your model number, I am guessing it's Pentium 90, are you sure you want to put 8.1 on it? 8.1 does take quite a bit of resource to run it smoothly. Robin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:33 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform a Hard-drive install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install from that, rather than a CD. -Original Message- From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS doesn't recognise
[newbie] installing 8.1
I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but I am having trouble installing. The problem is that my laptop as a space for a floppy drive and CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at once at my BIOS won't allow me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both floppy and CD at once I can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I can think of is to go into dos or whatever and open the install file but I don't what it is. Please could someone reply and tell me the name of the file. Tom. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] name of 8.1 install file
I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but I am having trouble installing. The problem is that my laptop as a space for a floppy drive and CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at once at my BIOS won't allow me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both floppy and CD at once I can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I can think of is to go into dos or whatever and open the install file but I don't what it is. Please could someone reply and tell me the name of the file. Tom. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've checked and sadly it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-( Tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot? It must be a truely ancient laptop if it doesn't. It's not a Dell Insprion is it? What normally happens is that the CDROM can be connected top the parallel port via a special cable which carries the signal and enough power for the drive -Original Message- From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1 I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but I am having trouble installing. The problem is that my laptop as a space for a floppy drive and CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at once at my BIOS won't allow me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both floppy and CD at once I can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I can think of is to go into dos or whatever and open the install file but I don't what it is. Please could someone reply and tell me the name of the file. Tom. File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS doesn't recognise it! tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've checked and sadly it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-( Tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot? It must be a truely ancient laptop if it doesn't. It's not a Dell Insprion is it? What normally happens is that the CDROM can be connected top the parallel port via a special cable which carries the signal and enough power for the drive -Original Message- From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1 I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but I am having trouble installing. The problem is that my laptop as a space for a floppy drive and CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at once at my BIOS won't allow me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both floppy and CD at once I can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I can think of is to go into dos or whatever and open the install file but I don't what it is. Please could someone reply and tell me the name of the file. Tom. File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
i only have about 1gb which is nowhere near enough. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: 27 January 2002 17:33 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform a Hard-drive install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install from that, rather than a CD. -Original Message- From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS doesn't recognise it! tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've checked and sadly it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-( Tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot? It must be a truely ancient laptop if it doesn't. It's not a Dell Insprion is it? What normally happens is that the CDROM can be connected top the parallel port via a special cable which carries the signal and enough power for the drive -Original Message- From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1 I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but I am having trouble installing. The problem is that my laptop as a space for a floppy drive and CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at once at my BIOS won't allow me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both floppy and CD at once I can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I can think of is to go into dos or whatever and open the install file but I don't what it is. Please could someone reply and tell me the name of the file. Tom. File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
that kind of worked. i got to the main menu screen, pressed enter and then just got a blank screen with Mandrake Linux 8.1 at the top. please help! tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin Sent: 27 January 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 According to Linux-on-laptops, it is possible. Here is how To install Linux from at CD-Rom, you need the cable that comes with the computer to attach the floppy drive to the parallel port. The procedure is as follows. Turn the computer off. Place the CD drive in the bay, and connect the floppy drive to the parallel port with the cable. Fasten the screws firmly. Now turn the machine on and press F2 to enter the setup. Find the configuration menu for integrated peripherals and change the mode of the parallel port to FDD mode. Initially it will probably be Uni-directional or Bi-directional. Save and exit the setup, and when the system boots, the now external floppy drive will be A:. From this point on your have a normal system with both floppy and CD-ROM drive and you can install as usual. If you want more information, here is the link http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/olivetti.html Hmmm, just a side note, judging from your model number, I am guessing it's Pentium 90, are you sure you want to put 8.1 on it? 8.1 does take quite a bit of resource to run it smoothly. Robin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:33 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform a Hard-drive install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install from that, rather than a CD. -Original Message- From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS doesn't recognise it! tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've checked and sadly it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-( Tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot? It must be a truely ancient laptop if it doesn't. It's not a Dell Insprion is it? What normally happens is that the CDROM can be connected top the parallel port via a special cable which carries the signal and enough power for the drive -Original Message- From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1 I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but I am having trouble installing. The problem is that my laptop as a space for a floppy drive and CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at once at my BIOS won't allow me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both floppy and CD at once I can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I can think of is to go into dos or whatever and open the install file but I don't what it is. Please could someone reply and tell me the name of the file. Tom. File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ** Norwich Union Life Pensions Limited Registered Office 2 Rougier Street York YO90 1UU Registered in England Number 3253947 A member of the Norwich Union Marketing Group which is regulated by the Personal Investment Authority. Member of the Association of British Insurers. For further Enquires 01603 622200 File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named
RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
i think it is in text mode anyway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin Sent: 27 January 2002 18:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Try text mode and see what happens Robin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Harris Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 10:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 that kind of worked. i got to the main menu screen, pressed enter and then just got a blank screen with Mandrake Linux 8.1 at the top. please help! tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin Sent: 27 January 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 According to Linux-on-laptops, it is possible. Here is how To install Linux from at CD-Rom, you need the cable that comes with the computer to attach the floppy drive to the parallel port. The procedure is as follows. Turn the computer off. Place the CD drive in the bay, and connect the floppy drive to the parallel port with the cable. Fasten the screws firmly. Now turn the machine on and press F2 to enter the setup. Find the configuration menu for integrated peripherals and change the mode of the parallel port to FDD mode. Initially it will probably be Uni-directional or Bi-directional. Save and exit the setup, and when the system boots, the now external floppy drive will be A:. From this point on your have a normal system with both floppy and CD-ROM drive and you can install as usual. If you want more information, here is the link http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/olivetti.html Hmmm, just a side note, judging from your model number, I am guessing it's Pentium 90, are you sure you want to put 8.1 on it? 8.1 does take quite a bit of resource to run it smoothly. Robin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:33 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform a Hard-drive install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install from that, rather than a CD. -Original Message- From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS doesn't recognise it! tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've checked and sadly it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-( Tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot? It must be a truely ancient laptop if it doesn't. It's not a Dell Insprion is it? What normally happens is that the CDROM can be connected top the parallel port via a special cable which carries the signal and enough power for the drive -Original Message- From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1 I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but I am having trouble installing. The problem is that my laptop as a space for a floppy drive and CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at once at my BIOS won't allow me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both floppy and CD at once I can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I can think of is to go into dos or whatever and open the install file but I don't what it is. Please could someone reply and tell me the name of the file. Tom. File: message.footer ** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies
RE: [newbie] installing 8.1
h... i don't know what machine i have got, how do i find out? i would rather not install previous versions because i got this one packaged in a shop which cost £30! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: 27 January 2002 18:51 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Didn't you get a LILO: prompt on screen? If so, try typing Linux, or just hitting enter again. If your machine hung, then I suspect you might be trying to install a 586 compiled distribution on something which isn't quite a 586! If you are desperate, I can burn you a copy of mandrake 6.5 which I think would install onto a 486 based machine... -Original Message- From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 that kind of worked. i got to the main menu screen, pressed enter and then just got a blank screen with Mandrake Linux 8.1 at the top. please help! tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robin Sent: 27 January 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 According to Linux-on-laptops, it is possible. Here is how To install Linux from at CD-Rom, you need the cable that comes with the computer to attach the floppy drive to the parallel port. The procedure is as follows. Turn the computer off. Place the CD drive in the bay, and connect the floppy drive to the parallel port with the cable. Fasten the screws firmly. Now turn the machine on and press F2 to enter the setup. Find the configuration menu for integrated peripherals and change the mode of the parallel port to FDD mode. Initially it will probably be Uni-directional or Bi-directional. Save and exit the setup, and when the system boots, the now external floppy drive will be A:. From this point on your have a normal system with both floppy and CD-ROM drive and you can install as usual. If you want more information, here is the link http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/olivetti.html Hmmm, just a side note, judging from your model number, I am guessing it's Pentium 90, are you sure you want to put 8.1 on it? 8.1 does take quite a bit of resource to run it smoothly. Robin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:33 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Hmmm - tricky. Have you got sfficient drive space to perform a Hard-drive install? i.e. copy the CD's onto HD and install from that, rather than a CD. -Original Message- From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 or rather the floppy drive has a cable, but the BIOS doesn't recognise it! tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Harris Sent: 27 January 2002 17:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Extremely ancient! I have an Olivetti Echos P90s. I've checked and sadly it's not possible to connect it via a cable :-( Tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve Sent: 27 January 2002 17:23 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] installing 8.1 Are you quite sure your BIOS won't allow a CDROM boot? It must be a truely ancient laptop if it doesn't. It's not a Dell Insprion is it? What normally happens is that the CDROM can be connected top the parallel port via a special cable which carries the signal and enough power for the drive -Original Message- From: Tom Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] installing 8.1 I just bought Mankrake 8.1 Standard edition but I am having trouble installing. The problem is that my laptop as a space for a floppy drive and CD-ROM drive however I can only have one in at once at my BIOS won't allow me to boot from a CD. Because I cannot use both floppy and CD at once I can't use a boot disk. The only workaround I can think of is to go into dos or whatever and open the install file but I don't what it is. Please could someone reply and tell me the name of the file. Tom. File: message.footer
