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[newbie] testing postfix
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RE: [newbie] I need your suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an add-on reply. P166 with 32MB should be enough to run SNF, it may not be snappy, but it works, I had it running on a P120. Have you tried text mode install? But why is it that when I'm about to install SNF in my old Intel Pentium 166 at 32MB RAM using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive it asked what modules shall I use for my CD-ROM drive? Also, the GUI installation is very poor and very slow. Thanks in advance. =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm... How did the install fail? SNF has a newer 2.2 kernel than the original and the newer one overcomes some errors that could be attributed to the strange timing and unique geometry of some WD drives. There is no real reason an SNF install should fail on such a system. I am running it on an IBM PC350 P166 with 32Mb of RAM and two network cards. Of course, I do have to keep a mouse attached so the BIOS will allow a boot, but the video and keyboard were long ago removed. You cannot have any other system on a machine running SNF. Dual-boots are impossible. When I'm about to install SNF in my old Intel Pentium 166 at 32MB RAM using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive it asked me what modules shall I use for my CD-ROM drive? Also, the GUI installation is very poor and very slow. Thanks in advance. =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Mandarke User..
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I installed Mandarake Lunix 8.1 in server mode. I am new with linux. Please don't lef. I was using Microsoft OS for 8 yars. Now I started new world for my self. Please let me know where can get more documentation about server configuration for smal network (EMail, WWW, DNS, Samba). Linux Documentation Project http://www.linuxdoc.org/ qmail Mail Server http://cr.yp.to/qmail.html http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ Web Server http://www.apache.org/ djbdns Name Server http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html http://www.lifewithdjbdns.org/ Samba http://www.samba.org/ Squid Proxy Server http://www.squid-cache.org/ PostgreSQL Database Server http://www.postgresql.org/ NAT How-To http://netfilter.samba.org/ HTH. =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why would it not support it? mayhaps you had some configuration problem that the fine folks on this list could have helped with, since the hardware you list should be no problem w/ SNF I don't know. AFAIK, when I am about to install SNF in my old Intel Pentium 166 at 32MB RAM using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive it asked what modules shall I use for my CD-ROM drive? Also, the GUI installation is very poor and very slow. Thanks in advance. =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get the source and compile it. I'm sorry for asking a very newbie question again but how can I compile the source of SNF if my hard disk drive is fresh? Thanks again... =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel upgrade problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well you don't update newer kernels, you _install_ them. Download and rpm -ivh kernelname The name is different so it will install alongside the older kernel and be bootable. Updating usually leaves you with a new kernel and modules compiled for an older one, which is a sad situation. Yeah, I know that. But basically, if I succeed in installing my new kernel-2.4.18 over my default kernel-2.4.8 of Mandrake 8.1, it would also be called an upgrade 'cause I won't use my old kernel anymore. Going back with my problem, anybody knows how to upgrade a newer kernel version using XFS (/usr, /home, /etc, /opt, etc...) and ext2 (/boot and /) filesystems and would you mind to give me your how-to's? Thank you in advance. God bless you all... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have another suggestion Fix your system time. I am getting letters before you mail them. (and after dealing with 37 inches of snow in 24 hours, I am likely to be mildly amused by that) I overlooked this problem. I'm using M$ Win98 when I'm reading and sending e-mails using this account. The rest of my jobs, I use my Mandrake 8.1. Thanks for reminding me. God bless... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I need your suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it is OK. Put the actual servers behind that one. There is a package called Mandrake SNF (Single Net Firewall) which has all those components and is configurable from the local network side by a web browser--quite a neat package. I tried installing Mandrake SNF before but it doesn't support my old Intel Pentium 166, 32MB RAM, 14' VGA 640x480 monitor and using BTC 40x IDE CD-ROM drive. So, eventhough I would like to try Mandrake SNF, I wasn't able to install it. Thanks... =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] I need your suggestions
Hello Linux gurus, Is it okay to put up a firewall, router and proxy servers/packages, all in one computer? Can you give me your recommended packages and what's their individual use, for this kind of setup? Also, can you give your how-to's in setting up this kind of setup? Thank you in advance. God bless you all... Just a newbie... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Apache + PostgreSQL + qmail + djbdns + LDAP + CUPS
Hello Linux gurus, Is it okay to install Apache + PostgreSQL + qmail + djbdns + LDAP + CUPS in to one computer and this computer is connected through a dial-up connection? This is for my home network setup with a limited number of computers. Thank you very much in advance for giving your time to read this very newbie question. Any suggestions and/or recommendations is highly appreciated. God bless you all... =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Kernel upgrade problem
Hello Linux gurus, I've been trying to upgrade my default kernel-2.4.8 of my Mandrake 8.1 to a newer version but with no luck. I don't know what's the matter that everytime I installed a newer kernel version, I can't boot from it. I am using XFS for my /usr, /home, /tmp, /opt, etc. and ext2 for my /boot and / partitions. Anybody knows how to upgrade a newer kernel version using XFS and ext2 filesystems and give me their how-to's? Thank you in advance. Just a newbie... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Recommended TV PCI card for Mandrake 8.1
Hello everyone, I need your suggestion on what is the best TV PCI card for Mandrake 81? Thanks a lot =) __ wwwedsamailcom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://wwwmandrakestorecom
[newbie] Dial-up connection problem
Hello everyone! =) I need your help. I don't know how to connect to the Internet using my dial-up connection. I am using Speed Com+ 56K external modem (serial) running on Mandrake 8.1. I hope you can give me a HOW-TO on how to connect my dial-up to the Internet. Please forgive me if this is a very newbie question. It's just that I don't know how and I really want to surf the web using my Mandrake 8.1 already. Thanks in advance... God bless... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Error messages during shutting down
Hello everybody! =) I'm currently using Mandrake 8.1 on Asus CUVR4X-C motherboard, Intel Pentium III 800 Mhz, 384 MB SDRAM and 20 GB Seagate Barraccuda 7200 RPM hard disk drive. My problem started when I successfully installed kernel-2.4.16.9mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm in my Mandrake 8.1 system. As most (if not all) of you know, Mandrake 8.1 has a default kernel version of 2.4.8. Basically, I did upgrade my default kernel. I installed my new kernel version using the command of: # rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.16.9mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm Also, my partitions and filesystems are: /boot - ext2fs /usr - XFS /home - XFS /opt - XFS /var - XFS swap / - ext2fs ...and I also add lines in my LILO for my new kernel to boot-up. Actually, I am encountering error messages during shutting down my system. Below are the error messages that are displayed during shutdown: /etc/rc0.d/S01halt: line -76: 5401 segmentation fault $* What does the error messages mean? How will I get over it? So far, I haven't encountered any problems yet using my new kernel 2.4.16.9 installed except for the error messages during shutting down. Thanks in advance for your help. __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] [ OT ] StarOffice 5.2 vs. OpenOffice 6.0
Hello everybody! =) My subject says it all but I need the comparison between the two based on which is more memory sucker. I haven't tried OpenOffice 6.0 yet and I'm currently using StarOffice 5.2 and it's very slow to me. My PC is an Intel Pentium III 800 Mhz, 384 MB SDRAM, 20 GB Seagate Barraccuda 7200 RPM on Mandrake 8.1. Thanks in advance. =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] I have HAD IT!!!!!
When is this damn useless compiler going to work? I have Mdk 8.1 and the default compiler is useless, 2.96 is a piece of trash, so I took it off and put on gcc3, again TRASH, so I try to put on 2.95 and all it can give me is the same bullshit over and over WHEN IS THIS STUPID ASS THING going to WORK?? I am very coselgjyuh to going back to readhat. fuc, the typos i'm pissed off [root@kittypuss gcc295]# ls gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i386.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz.part gcc-2.96-0.62mdk.i586.rpm glibc-2.1.3-18.1mdk.i586.rpm gcc-cpp-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm glibc-devel-2.1.3-18.3mdk.i586.rpm [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -ivh gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: gcc-cpp = 2.95.2 is needed by gcc-2.95.2-12mdk gcc 2.96-0.50mdk conflicts with glibc-devel-2.2.4-6mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -e gcc-cpp error: removing these packages would break dependencies: /lib/cpp is needed by XFree86-4.1.0-17mdk /lib/cpp is needed by XFree86-devel-4.1.0-17mdk /lib/cpp is needed by rpmlint-0.35-1mdk /lib/cpp is needed by WindowMaker-0.65.1-4mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -e gcc-cpp --nodeps [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -ivh gcc-cpp-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm Preparing... (10### [100%] 1:gcc-cpp( 4### [100%] [root@kittypuss gcc295]# ls gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i386.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm gcc-everything-2.95.tar.gz.part gcc-2.96-0.62mdk.i586.rpm glibc-2.1.3-18.1mdk.i586.rpm gcc-cpp-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm glibc-devel-2.1.3-18.3mdk.i586.rpm [root@kittypuss gcc295]# gcc bash: gcc: command not found [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -ivh gcc-2.95.2-12mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: gcc 2.96-0.50mdk conflicts with glibc-devel-2.2.4-6mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -Uvh glibc-devel-2.1.3-18.3mdk.i586.rpm --oldpackage error: failed dependencies: glibc-devel 2.2.3 conflicts with glibc-2.2.4-6mdk [root@kittypuss gcc295]# rpm -Uvh glibc-2.1.3-18.1mdk.i586.rpm --oldpackage error: failed dependencies: glibc 2.1.90 conflicts with db2-2.4.14-3mdk glibc 2.1.90 conflicts with db1-1.85-6mdk glibc = 2.1.92 is needed by rpm-4.0.3-0.27mdk glibc = 2.2.4 is needed by locales-2.3.1.2-4mdk glibc = 2.2.4 is needed by locales-2.3.1.2-4mdk glibc = 2.2.4 is needed by glibc-devel-2.2.4-6mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by bash-2.05-10mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by bzip2-1.0.1-14mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libncurses5-5.2-16mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by perl-base-5.601-6mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by grep-2.4.2-9mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by fileutils-4.1-4mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libslang1-1.4.4-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by e2fsprogs-1.24a-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by mktemp-1.5-10mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by gawk-3.1.0-1mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by sed-3.02-12mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by shadow-utils-2902-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by textutils-2.0.14-3mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by mount-2.11h-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by pwdb-0.61-5mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by pam-0.75-7mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by SysVinit-2.78-11mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by sh-utils-2.0.11-5mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by rpm-4.0.3-0.27mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by findutils-4.1.7-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by gzip-1.2.4a-7mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by tar-1.13.22-3mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by grub-0.90-4mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by hdparm-4.1-4mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by losetup-2.11h-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by stat-2.5-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by vim-enhanced-6.0-0.40mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by vim-minimal-6.0-0.40mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by XFree86-libs-4.1.0-17mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libgtk+1.2-1.2.10-14mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by db2-2.4.14-3mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libopenssl0-0.9.6b-1mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libdb3.2-3.2.9-2mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by libimlib1-1.9.11-5mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by gnome-libs-1.4.1.2-6mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by XFree86-4.1.0-17mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by openssl-0.9.6b-1mdk
[newbie] I can't take it anymore
I am sorry for being a boogerface, but this distribution as far as I am concerned is too hard for me to fix. I don't know whether to downgrade to 7.2, 8.0, or leave the Mandrake distribution until it can actualy compile something other than dust. I have no one who can help me, and probably no one cares either. I guess I'm too neurologically crippled to figure things out myself well damn it, I need more help with that than other people. sorry did not know other way to express it. I don't know what other linux OS has sound, suse don't got it, debian don't have it, I'm not going to bust my butt fucking around in some stupid-ass goddamn config file buried under 10,000 feet of shit just to get my damn sound working!!! Sorry scuse my french, but I am afriad I must leave, you must be glad I'm leaveing so I'm doing us both a favour. I feel like I have failed the mandrake dist because I'm too crippled to make it go I guess. goodbye I'm sorrry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] I need your immediate help!
Hello gurus! I am using Mandrake 8.1 and I just downloaded the kernel-2.4.13-mdk.rpm and the latest iptables available in the speakeasy.rpmfind.net site. I tried to install the new kernel and iptables using the commands of: # rpm -ivh kernel-xxx.mdk.rpm and # rpm -Uvh iptables-xxx.mdk.rpm but I wasn't able to install those packages. It depends to one another. So I decided to open my kongueror browser and click the kernel first and automatically installed it using RPM Software Manager. And I was asked if I'll forcely install it and I clicked the YES button. And when it was successfully installed, I also clicked to install the iptables package. After I successfully installed the two packages, I reboot my system. And it all started my problem. I wasn't able to enter my Mandrake system. What shall I do? Please help me... Thanks in advance. God bless... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Upgrading kernel-2.4.13-12mdk.i586.rpm problem
Hello, gurus! I am using Mandrake 8.1 and I just downloaded the kernel-2.4.13-12mdk.i586.rpm and iptables-1.2.4-2mdk.i586.rpm available in the speakeasy.rpmfind.net site. I tried to install the new kernel and iptables using the commands of: # rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.13-12mdk.i586.rpm and # rpm -Uvh iptables-1.2.4-2mdk.i586.rpm and vice versa but I wasn't able to install those packages. It depends to one another. So I decided to open my kongueror browser and click the kernel first and automatically installed it using RPM Software Manager. And I was asked if I'll forcely install it and I clicked the YES button. And when it was successfully installed, I also clicked to install the iptables package. After I successfully installed the two packages, I reboot my system. And it all started my problem. I wasn't able to enter my Mandrake system. What shall I do? Please help me... Thanks in advance. God bless... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SPAM FILTER
What I do from my e mail server is to make the file /etc/mail/access (used by sendmail) and in the file called access, you can bounce mail that you don't want, for example my /etc/mail/access file reads liek the one below, however please note that some of the addresses are obscured to protect people, not all on my list are poopybottoms, some are just annoying me temporarily, but from the addresses, ip numbers, or hostnames you can get a jist of the format, but then again, if not, please mail me back and ask me for help like from who do you want to bounce mail back to and stuff. The lines that say ERROR: in them will bounce mail back I think, then you can put in the standard error message or you can think up one of your own razzes hehehe. # Check the /usr/share/doc/sendmail-8.11.6/README.cf file for a description # of the format of this file. (search for access_db in that file) # The /usr/share/doc/sendmail-8.11.6/README.cf is part of the sendmail-doc # package. # # by default we allow relaying from localhost... localhost.localdomain RELAY localhost RELAY 127.0.0.1 RELAY [EMAIL PROTECTED] RELAY [EMAIL PROTECTED]RELAY xxx@RELAY kittypuss.org OK [EMAIL PROTECTED]ERROR:550 We don't accept mail from stupid XX like you mail-out.namezero.com ERROR:550 I hate namezero [EMAIL PROTECTED] ERROR:550 Sorry, I don't like auto-replyers pickabooger.cec.eu.int ERROR:550 Sorry, I don't like auto-replyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] ERROR:550 shove your stupid virus [EMAIL PROTECTED] ERROR:550 Please stop spamming me mm-outgoing-104.amazon.com ERROR:550 Please stop spamming me 202.123.31.186 ERROR:550 Spam has been rejected. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ERROR:550 Spam has been rejected. 61.135.4.203ERROR:550 you success-secrets.org ERROR:550 you and your xxx spam too [EMAIL PROTECTED] ERROR:550 Your mail is not welcome here On Tuesday 04 December 2001 10:59 am, you wrote: i dunno.. i dont have THAT much experience.. i've heard procmail is a nightmare to install, i'm looking for something quick, and easy.. - Original Message - From: Matt Greer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] SPAM FILTER From: Matt Koppelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a new sysadmin for my ISP.. we have a horrible spam problem here, and no one has done anything in the past to resolve it. I have decent linux experience, but i wouldnt exactly call myself a pro.. :) i have been looking into blackmail, but it seems very difficult to install. I was wondering if anyone out there knew of an AWESOME spam filter, that can be used system-wide (for ISP use) and is EASY to install and administer.. can anyone please help me?!?!? :) Give procmail a try. I'm about to set it up for my network as well. I don't actually have it running yet, but I've seen nothing but positive things about it. http://www.procmail.org/ Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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[newbie] Problem in Changing to Single User Mode (runlevel 1)
Hello, gurus! I was trying to change from my default runlevel 5 to single user mode (runlevel 1) using the command of: # telinit 1 but I think, I hanged up. What could be the problem with this? I am using Mandrake 8.1, default kernel 2.4.8. BTW, I am planning to upgrade to kernel 2.4.13 (mdk.rpm) from speakeasy.rpmfind.net. How do I upgrade on this? Do I still have to change from my default runlevel 5 to single user mode (runlevel 1)? What is more appropriate rpm command in upgrading my 2.4.8 to 2.4.13 kernel, the rpm -ivh package_name or rpm -Uvh package_name? If I'll issue the command of: # rpm -ivh or -Uvh package_name do I still need to configure or something or it will automatically set up? Thanks for your help. God bless you... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] [ OT ] Recommended Perl Book
[ Sorry for this OT. ] Hello! =) Can you point me to a complete URL where I can download a good book on Perl for free? As much as possible, it would be free for download 'cause I don't have enough money to buy expensive books. Thanks in advance. =) God bless... __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Book recommendations
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santa just asked me what I want for Christmas. A Linux reference book, of course. But which book? Dennis Myers has already recommended O'Reilly's Linux in a Nutshell. Any other recommendations? - Linux Newbie Administrator Guide by: Stan and Peter Klimas http://sunsite.dk/linux-newbie/ - An Introduction to Linux Systems Administration 3rd Edition by: David Jones and Bruce Jamieson http://infocom.cqu.edu.au/85321/ or try searching at http://www.google.com/ - Linux: Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition by: Paul Sheer http://rute.sourceforge.net/ - The Linux Cookbook by: Michael Stutz http://www.dsl.org/ - Securing and Optimizing Linux: Red Hat Edition Version 1.3 by: Gerhard Mourani http://www.linuxdoc.org/guides.html - Oreilly Open Book Projects http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/ HTH. Good luck! =) P.S. Can you point me to a complete URL where can I download a good book on Perl for free? Thanks in advance. __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] skrude up my apache
I desparately need ehlp getting my apache server back up. I force-backgraded my gcc and it funked up apache and perl somehow. I have gcc 296 now but apache is funked up and does not function. Please ehlp me. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] a very dumb gcc question
rebuild from source? compile a compiler? If I don't have a compiler that works, how can I compile? On Thursday 29 November 2001 09:15 am, you wrote: have you tried rpm --oldpackage gcc-2.95*.rpm this should let you downgrade. an rpm --force will also do this, but I'd recommend rpm --oldpackage to check for deps first. If all else fails, rebuild from source mark On Friday 30 November 2001 01:40, you wrote: Ok, its stupid question time. Ok, I'm no expert, but I'm not a complete newbie, but I still don't know, should I force install GCC2.95 to end my GCC3 compiler troubles? Or am I skrude until the next mandrake release? I can't seem to backgrade to some compiler without the OS bean-hatching about dependencies. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The problem with Linux
Naa, windows is a dying OS that will never be. On Saturday 24 November 2001 08:26 pm, Andrew Scotchmer wrote: Hi all, About 16 months ago I was using Linux 100%. By that I mean that there was no other operating system to be found on my hard drive. Unfortunatly I had to reinstall Windows as I needed the Macromedia software which, as you will all know, deleted my Linux partition and I became a drone to microsoft. A few weeks ago however I installed Linux once again and although I am still stuck with windows for a few applications, Linux has once again become my main choice of operating system. However in saying this there are a few concerns I would like to make. There is nothing I would like to see than Linux becoming the main OS on the PC market. I wish it well and hope that it's popularity grows from strength to strength in the future. Unfortunatly after my vacation into the world of windows I have to admit I doubt that such a dream will become a reality. This I beleave, is because of the many distro's that are currently on the market each competing for a bit of the pie. Unless there is a standardisation in the Linux world we will not attract the home user in any significant number. For instance, why is windows so popular and the number 1 OS around? Not because it is the best but because it is consistant. For example, I run windows 98 as do many others. I know the system and how to work it and I know that the software I want to run wil be compatable with it. If I have a problem I can ask a friend who may know the answer or may know others that do because we all run the same OS and are comfortable with it as it has remained unchanged now for a few years. Now lets look at Linux. I run Suse 7.2 which although similar to Mandrake 8.1 is also very different. What works on my system may not do so on another vendors distro. Many times have I tried to install the lastest piece of software only to discover that this library file was missing or such a file needs updating and I have to go hunting the internet for the needed file in order to run the program. My point is that until Linux becomes more standardised and unified then it will never overtake the windows OS. Although Microsoft is slagged a lot (and rightly so) at least each version of it's OS is around long enough for people to become familiar with it and know what it can do without the hassle of constant upgrades or installations. Although I have only had my distro for a few weeks already there is a stream of updates that I am told needs to be downloaded if I what to stay up to date. Why can we not have a unification of the distros. Granted each will vary slightly but the main OS will remain the same thus allowing users to become familiar with it before it becomes out of date and an upgrade is needed for some software. This may also encourage software manufacturers to produce drivers and programs for Linux because they know what they are dealing with, what the people are using and that it will remain so for the next year or so as with windows. Sorry if this has gone on a bit and I apologise for any uncertainty in my message (I am not a brilliant writer) but I do feel that the many distro's that are available is actually hindering the progress of this marvelous OS and that they are the reason for it's failure in attracting newcomers. Why can they not just all sit round a table and decide that this is the kernal for the next year or two and this is what we will do with it. Or is there more similarities with microsoft than they care to admit in that they only care for the money and the prestige of being the most popular. Come on guy's this is open source, this is a community that exist beyond the realms of finance. it is about sharing and unity. Andrew Scotchmer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Mandrake vs Linux Suse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Generally speaking I am thinking that US is not that strong on Linux market. RedHat is of course an american company but it looks that is not that popular as these two distributions. I don't have any comments about this. Sorry. If I would like to compare two distributions(see Mandrake vs Suse) which should be the criteria ? Can we say that Mandrake is more user firendly than Suse ? or Suse is faster than Mandrake ? Are out there some clear outlined criteria on comparing these Linux distributions ? I don't have any comments about this 'cause I wasn't able to use Suse in the first place. The reason is that I am a developer currently working on Microsoft platform but I intend to enlarge my skill set and knowledge with Java. For me Java has a bright future on Linux and this makes me to focus on Java development. Good for you. At the moment I need a good distribution to stick to, let's say... . I had the feeling that Suse is a more solid Linux distro, a more Server and development focused. I may be wrong thinking in this way, but this is the feeling which I have. Well, it depends on how you configure your box. There's no such thing as best distro. I think will not be bad for Mandrake to include in its distro more support for developers and especially for Java. I suggest that the following things should be included on further Mandrake distros: 1. Java JDK 2. Java JRE 3. Most Java Application Servers -- Jboss, Orion, etc 4. Java IDE such as: JBuilder, IBM VisualAge, etc 5. Borland's Kylix 6. Other IDE and tools which may be of interest for developers. That's actually a good suggestion but I don't think they will. Those packages that you mentioned are not Open Source and basically, I don't think Sun, Borland, etc. will just permit Mandrake without this so-called partnership. Just like what Suse and Oracle did. Many of the tools presented above are open source or could be easily included on Mandrake's cds distro. I don't think so. As I've mentioned, those softwares are NOT Open Source, AFAIK. Besides, as what I've said, it is not that easy to include those softwares in their (Mandrake) next version 'cause it needs the permission of the companies' concerned. If that's the case, Mandrake should include StarOffice also or probably OpenOffice. Keep cool! =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Software Manager
Usted significa que usted no puede instalar un programa regular de un fichero del código de fuente? Perdóneme por favor, estoy utilizando un traductor y no comprendo el lenguaje español muy bien. On Tuesday 20 November 2001 05:58 pm, you wrote: Hola, este es mi 1º mail a esta lista, soy nuevo en el mundo de Linux, estoy siguiendo un curso de una revista y parece que al final aprendi a instalar y desinstalar programas usando el Software Manager. Pero resulta que no puedo añadir otras fuentes, me da error, no se puede agregar esta fuente a su sistema Por cierto, las fuentes son la ruta donde estan los programas a instalar, ¿no?. No me deja agregar una al floppy, al escritorio o otra carpeta, siempre sale el mismo error. ¿Alguienn sabe lo que ocurre? Gracias Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] AVI files
I would test out the 'mplayer' I hope it works for you. Feel free to download my copy ftp://kittypuss.org/Software/MPlayer-0.50-0.pre1.2mdk.i586.rpm If that one does not work please test out the ones they have on their web page, they have all the original source code at the url below. http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage Be careful, its beta software I think. I hope it all works out for you. On Monday 19 November 2001 12:30 pm, you wrote: Hey group, Does anyone know of a good avi player for Linux? Xmovie and xmms doesnt seem to support those files. I have some world trade center movies that I want to view. thnx! Xsturm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] [ OT ] Recommended UPS for Linux Mandrake 8.1 server
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi i got a ups ... a plain old simple ups with no serial connection to the pc which works fine wiht linux. but in webmin ( https://localhost:1 ) there is support for ups and so i believe that a ups with a serial connection to the pc is supported. hoped that helped Would you mind to share the brand name and model number of your UPS? Any other info? =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Abiword abnormal exit
Hmm what happened here? abiword AbiWord_d: manager_impl.cc:30: void free_lt_handle (void *): Assertion `s == 0' failed. /usr//bin/abiword: line 68: 10605 Aborted $ABISUITE_LIBEXEC/AbiWord_d $@ It printed this on the console when it just disappeared. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Konqueror Help Midi download
Whenever I hit a web page with a midi file, the web page disappears and http://kittypuss.org/dialogue.gif appears and stays there. What is going wrong please? Thank you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] [ OT ] Recommended Dual AMD Athlon Processor Motherboard
Hello everyone! =) First of all, I would like to thank all of you who answered my previous query. I don't need to state your names. You know who you are! =) Anyway, my subject says it all. What is your recommended Socket A Dual AMD Athlon Processor Motherboard that will support 2.x Ghz up for both processors and 1.5 Gb up (SD/RD) RAM? This will be used as a server. Thanks in advance. __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] [ OT ] Recommended AMD Athlon 1.x Motherboard
Thanks to everyone who answered my query. More power to all of you! =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] [ OT ] Recommended UPS for Linux Mandrake 8.1 server
[ Sorry for this OT again. ] Hello everyone! =) What is your recommended UPS for a Linux Mandrake 8.1 server? I'm in the search of a good UPS that has good Linux support, or at least has some externally-maintained shutdown daemon. Thanks in advance. __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [ OT ] Recommended UPS for Linux Mandrake 8.1 server
I think that APC http://www.apc.com (i hope thats right) has some Linux compatible ones. On Tuesday 13 November 2001 12:32 am, you wrote: [ Sorry for this OT again. ] Hello everyone! =) What is your recommended UPS for a Linux Mandrake 8.1 server? I'm in the search of a good UPS that has good Linux support, or at least has some externally-maintained shutdown daemon. Thanks in advance. __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] [ OT ] Recommended AMD Athlon 1.x Motherboard
Sorry for this OT. Anyway, I would like to ask your opinion to what Socket A Motherboard for AMD Athlon 1.x Ghz would you like to recommend to me? I am planning to build my all-in-one server for my small Internet cafe. Also, what UPS is good for this kind of server would you like to recommend to me? By the way, I am planning to install Linux Mandrake 8.1 in that server and probably I'll make it also as the Linux Terminal Server http://www.ltsp.org/, that is if I can make it. Thanks in advance. __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] setting up proxy server
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave, For files storage and retrieval, which ranks first, MySql or Sql ? For web server which will be better, Apache or Squid ? I think the Open Source databases that I know as of the moment are PostgreSQL, MySQL and SAPDB. PostgreSQL and MySQL are included in most distros. Apache is a web server while Squid is a proxy server. HTH. __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] setting up proxy server
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 3 Win boxes and 1 Linux box. However those 3 Win boxes can be easily converted to Linux box because I have mobile racks and spare hard disks. My question is can I use my Linux box as server serving 3 Win boxes (Win98, Win ME and Win XP) or I have to converting all of them to Linux boxes ? Which software recommended would be easily configured and maintained to be used in the server ? You don't need to convert your Win boxes to Linux. I assumed that your Win and Linux boxes are well-configured on their individual IP addresses. In short they communicate each other. You just need to install NFS, Samba, OpenSSH to your Linux box and Putty to your Win boxes. HTH. __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Problem with Xine 0.9.2
Hello, I just downloaded the xine packages of lib and ui version 0.9.2. I made a directory for xine at /usr/share/xine and ui is under the lib directory. In short, the path is: for lib: /usr/share/xine/lib for ui: /usr/share/xine/lib/ui I followed the xine installation how-to that lib should be compiled first before ui. I ./configure, make, make install successfully on my lib but when I start to make my ui, the lib PATH wasn't able to recognized/find by ui. But I already set the PATH for the lib. Have you encountered this problem before? If it's okay with you, could you please tell me what is the step by step how to build my xine package? BTW, I also want to delete some of my PATH patterns but I already forgot how I did this before. Could you please tell me how? Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Sound problem with Yamaha 6000 sound card
Hello, Could anyone please tell me how will I make my sound work by default. I have a PCI Yamaha 6000 sound card using Mandrake 8.1. A step by step HOW-TO will be much appreciated. BTW, my PC hardware specification: - Intel Pentium III 800 Mhz - 20 GB Seagate Barraccuda 7200 RPM - 256 MB SDRAM - PCI Yamaha 6000 sound card Thanks in advance. __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary
So how do you get ahold of the software in the first place if it only lasts for 30 days? I would not pay twice for it. Thank goodness for Linux :) On Wednesday 31 October 2001 11:16 pm, you wrote: Alright enough's enough. RH is not subject to an activation scheme. Its free software just like any other Linux. What you DO have to do is register (for free) with the Red Hat Network for automated updates. You can still download the updates in regular RPM's but if you want an entire network of RH boxes to use the RH Network then you'll have to pay for that privledge. Thats all. There is no activation scheme when using RH. And for that matter, even though you have to activate WinXP you do have 30 days to do so before it will shut down. Once activated you can upgrade any component within a 120 day period as long as you do not cross a certain threshold (i.e. replacing everything at once). So yes you can upgrade your RAM and HD both at the same time or RAM and Video card or HD and CPU without triggering a re-activation, and thats all that happens. A re-activation is triggered and the OS will then function again. If no major upgrading is done within 120 days XP resets itself meaning you could (but not legally) install WinXP on two different computers if you bothered to wait 120 days between installs. Now, can we stop the OS bashing please? On Wednesday, October 31, 2001, at 11:39 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:40:39 -0500, Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not understand the huecry, especially from linux users, about the activation process of Windows XP, or the fact that it is tied to 1 system. This not an unheard of, or unused procedure. Red Hat has been using basicly the same in there treatment of installations since 7.1. Ummm... How? Red Hat is GPL. You can download it freely of the Internet. What's the point in a product activation copy protection scheme then? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan HTML needs a rant tag. -- Eric S. Raymond Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows XP: EXtra Proprietary
Ok thanks for the info. This seals my decision to not buy XP ever, paying for it twice? Ripoff. Linux will forever rule in my house. On Thursday 01 November 2001 12:29 am, you wrote: Well, you go to a store and buy it. Then when you install it, the 30 day countdown begins. If you don't activate it within that time frame it stops working. On Thursday, November 1, 2001, at 12:20 AM, Newbie wrote: So how do you get ahold of the software in the first place if it only lasts for 30 days? I would not pay twice for it. Thank goodness for Linux :) On Wednesday 31 October 2001 11:16 pm, you wrote: Alright enough's enough. RH is not subject to an activation scheme. Its free software just like any other Linux. What you DO have to do is register (for free) with the Red Hat Network for automated updates. You can still download the updates in regular RPM's but if you want an entire network of RH boxes to use the RH Network then you'll have to pay for that privledge. Thats all. There is no activation scheme when using RH. And for that matter, even though you have to activate WinXP you do have 30 days to do so before it will shut down. Once activated you can upgrade any component within a 120 day period as long as you do not cross a certain threshold (i.e. replacing everything at once). So yes you can upgrade your RAM and HD both at the same time or RAM and Video card or HD and CPU without triggering a re-activation, and thats all that happens. A re-activation is triggered and the OS will then function again. If no major upgrading is done within 120 days XP resets itself meaning you could (but not legally) install WinXP on two different computers if you bothered to wait 120 days between installs. Now, can we stop the OS bashing please? On Wednesday, October 31, 2001, at 11:39 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:40:39 -0500, Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not understand the huecry, especially from linux users, about the activation process of Windows XP, or the fact that it is tied to 1 system. This not an unheard of, or unused procedure. Red Hat has been using basicly the same in there treatment of installations since 7.1. Ummm... How? Red Hat is GPL. You can download it freely of the Internet. What's the point in a product activation copy protection scheme then? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan HTML needs a rant tag. -- Eric S. Raymond Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Help-.session will not re-set
My session manager will not forget that I don't have 14 windows of Konq open anymore. Even if I tell it on logout don't save session.. Where is the config fiel for remembering restoring session, I want to just delete the little bugger... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Don't install kdebase-nsplugins-2.2.1-7mdk.i586.rpm
It sucks, it will break your Konqueror, I have no Konqueror now. I hate kdebase-nsplugins-2.2.1-7mdk.i586.rpm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Word processor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: StarOffice 5.2 is a great piece of work. Its problems are bloat and the integrated desktop (although I've grown used to it over time). Other than that it is incredibly solid - I've written large documents on it over the period of a week (i.e. open the entire time) and it never crashed on me. OpenOffice.org (that's its official name, since somebody has already copyrighted OpenOffice) is shaping up to be a fine successor to StarOffice 5.2. I've always preferred StarOffice to MS Word, and OpenOffice.org is even better. Release 638C has some stability problems, but otherwise it is almost complete. Most importantly, it is actually usable. While it is bloated, I assume that this is because it is still in development. Hi there! =) I'm just new to this mailing list and I hope you can help me with my problem. Is there any Word Processor that can save output as PDF file? Shall we say, I will make a document but I will save it as PDF file and can be viewed like xpdf or Adobe Acrobat Reader. Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. =) __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.i586.rpm appears broken
Ok many thanks, I might try looking for a new sound editor, this one appears to be too much trouble than it is worth. Someone told me I should try audacity, and I am testitning it out right now, seems like its decent, no fancy mixing sound on sound yet I think but its good enough for now. On Monday 22 October 2001 11:07 am, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: Heh, it helps if you are in the same directory that contains the SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.i586.rpm file before you execute that command. The rpm command could not find the file, resulting in the error. I could not locate an i586 version of that file on RPMFIND (which I looked for after reading your message below). Nor could I find an MDK version for anything but the Sparc. Ideally you want to use MDK RPM's to avoid problems with other software on your MDK system. In turn if you are downloading a cooker file on a stock 8.x LM install, it's a good idea to try to recompiling, instead of installing from a binary. Though this may not always work. Recompiling rebuilds the i586.rpm file based upon files and libraries already installed in your system. (E.G. rpm --rebuild SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.src.rpm after downloading that file... The resulting file will be located in /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586 or /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i686 ) When it works, you end up with a NEW rpm that is more highly compatible with your existing installation. Note however that cooker RPM's in turn often rely on other libraries programs which may not already be installed in your system. You can actually get into a vicious cycle of upgrades by trying to utilize cooker (and other) RPM's which supercede releases for your system. At best, things will work, at worst you may end up with a highly unstable system. For Ex-Winblows people, using cooker releases is somewhat akin to trying to run software under WinME, written for WindowsXP. Not a good idea, especially on an important system. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Newbie |Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:05 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [newbie] SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.i586.rpm appears broken | | |Ok I got it from rpmfind.net it says: | | |[root@kittypuss Production]# rpm -qlf |SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.i586.rpm | more |error: file SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.i586.rpm: No such file or |directory [root@kittypuss Production]# | |On Friday 19 October 2001 04:33 pm, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: | Well first determine if it's in the original RPM... | | (BTW: where did you find the RPM?) | | In the directory you have the RPM type | | rpm -qlf SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.i586.rpm | more (or less) | |and see if | | the file is listed. | | -JMS | | |-Original Message- | |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Newbie | |Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:11 PM | |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Subject: Re: [newbie] SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.i586.rpm appears broken | | | | | |Ok, it is not there, where should I look to get it? | | | |On Friday 19 October 2001 03:51 pm, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: | | Check to be sure that the program studio_tool exists in the | | /usr/lib/SoundStudio directory... | | | | -JMS | | | | |-Original Message- | | |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Newbie | | |Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:57 PM | | |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |Subject: [newbie] SoundStudio-1.0.3-5.i586.rpm appears broken | | | | | | | | |Anyone know how to fix these errors? | | | | | |$ studio | | |Error in startup script: couldn't execute | | |/usr/lib/SoundStudio/studio_tool: | | |no such file or directory | | |while executing | | |exec $FILE(Tool) diagnostics | | |(procedure CARDSetter line 5) | | |invoked from within | | |CARDSetter | | |(file /usr/lib/SoundStudio/init.tk line 157) | | |invoked from within | | |source $MYFILES/init.tk | | | | | |(file /usr//bin/studio line 33) | | |$ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
