Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 01:41 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: > On Tuesday 15 February 2005 10:48, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > > While I agree that an external serial modem is the best solution for a > > desktop, I'm not sure that it is a realistic solution for a laptop. > > I differ. A lot of people carry around a bag for a laptop, especially > since most power supplies for laptops require something other than just the > laptop. When you figure that an external serial modem is about the same > size as a plug-in floppy (which I have for my laptop) and about the same > weight, adding an external serial modem to your bag is really not that big > a deal. > > And, that is only if you know that you are going to need to dial in > somewhere. Bryan: It's just that back in my road warrior days, I made an effort to minimize the stuff that I had to schlep around, and an external modem and its power wart would have been something that I would have though about very carefully. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Tuesday 15 February 2005 10:48, Carroll Grigsby wrote: While I agree that an external serial modem is the best solution for a desktop, I'm not sure that it is a realistic solution for a laptop. I differ. A lot of people carry around a bag for a laptop, especially since most power supplies for laptops require something other than just the laptop. When you figure that an external serial modem is about the same size as a plug-in floppy (which I have for my laptop) and about the same weight, adding an external serial modem to your bag is really not that big a deal. And, that is only if you know that you are going to need to dial in somewhere. I agree with Bryan. However, with laptops there is a better solution, if you can find it. I use a Xircom 56K PCMCIA modem with my Thinkpad. It is a proper (not win-) modem. I am sure that there are other similar products out there. Don't waste your time with winmodems. cheers Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 10:48, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > While I agree that an external serial modem is the best solution for a > desktop, I'm not sure that it is a realistic solution for a laptop. I differ. A lot of people carry around a bag for a laptop, especially since most power supplies for laptops require something other than just the laptop. When you figure that an external serial modem is about the same size as a plug-in floppy (which I have for my laptop) and about the same weight, adding an external serial modem to your bag is really not that big a deal. And, that is only if you know that you are going to need to dial in somewhere. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 06:07 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: > On Monday 14 February 2005 20:55, Melissa Allen wrote: > > I have located the download page for the driver for my particular Intel > > PCI modem and for Mandrake 10 and up. >>> snip > > Just because I might learn something, I'll try installing the > > driver first. If I can't make it work, I'll go for the external serial > > modem... > > Never hurts to learn something. Well mostly, anyway. > > The only reason that I suggest external serial is that in a lot of cases, > you have to install a lot of developer tools to get a winmodem working and > even then, it is simply not as fast or good as an external serial. Some of > the drivers are proprietary and the free versions are speed locked to a > lower speed to entice you to pay the $45 vendor fee to get the fast ones. > Given that the Windows drivers are free, I would refuse to pay this out of > principle, much less for a lower speed, software modem. And you may have to go through the whole drill whenever the kernel developers come up with another new idea. (see nVidia, wireless adapters, yada yada...) > Throw in the cost of the external serial models and you might want to get > one despite getting the winmodem to work, which is what I did. While I agree that an external serial modem is the best solution for a desktop, I'm not sure that it is a realistic solution for a laptop. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
-Original Message- From: Bryan Phinney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 15-Feb-05 23:44 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Cc: Subject:Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!) On Tuesday 15 February 2005 06:57, Hugh Dixon wrote: > Just a remark for others to comment on. My understanding (very > preliminary) is that the Intel Hyper Threading technology (Pentium 4 3.2 > GHz for example) uses the SMP kernel. The Hyper Threading Technology > (copyright etc?) makes the processor look like two processors. I use one > of these at work under a usoft operating system. The lads from Redmond > make the processor appear to be two in all the reporting and diagnostic > tools. I think Mandrake (Linux?) does the same. (In mcc go to "hardware" > and open the "processors" tree. The HT processor shows as 2 processors.) I had considered something like that but for the record, my Dell is a Pentium 4 M, 1.8Ghz, so I think that doesn't include the HT technology. Still, never seemed to do any harm. -- Bryan Phinney Laptops were mentioned in hte e-mail, and I don't think they use the HT yet. I think I read somewhere that the SMP Kernel is more responsive for a desktop system. I'd really like someone who knows something to confirm my rumours though.. Hugh <> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 06:57, Hugh Dixon wrote: > Just a remark for others to comment on. My understanding (very > preliminary) is that the Intel Hyper Threading technology (Pentium 4 3.2 > GHz for example) uses the SMP kernel. The Hyper Threading Technology > (copyright etc?) makes the processor look like two processors. I use one > of these at work under a usoft operating system. The lads from Redmond > make the processor appear to be two in all the reporting and diagnostic > tools. I think Mandrake (Linux?) does the same. (In mcc go to "hardware" > and open the "processors" tree. The HT processor shows as 2 processors.) I had considered something like that but for the record, my Dell is a Pentium 4 M, 1.8Ghz, so I think that doesn't include the HT technology. Still, never seemed to do any harm. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
-Original Message- From: Bryan Phinney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 15-Feb-05 22:07 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Cc: Subject:Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!) On Monday 14 February 2005 20:55, Melissa Allen wrote: > I have located the download page for the driver for my particular Intel > PCI modem and for Mandrake 10 and up. I'll guess that I need the > version for the default configured Mandrake 10.0 system, but what is > the "SMP configured" system? >Symmetric MultiProcessor. Usually servers although I have had this kernel >>get >installed by default on my Dell Laptop which only has a single processor. >Not sure why but I usually replace with a standard kernel and it doesn't >really affect anything. You probably want to stick to non-SMP kernels >since >my guess is that you have a single processor. Feel free to correct me if I >am wrong. Just a remark for others to comment on. My understanding (very preliminary) is that the Intel Hyper Threading technology (Pentium 4 3.2 GHz for example) uses the SMP kernel. The Hyper Threading Technology (copyright etc?) makes the processor look like two processors. I use one of these at work under a usoft operating system. The lads from Redmond make the processor appear to be two in all the reporting and diagnostic tools. I think Mandrake (Linux?) does the same. (In mcc go to "hardware" and open the "processors" tree. The HT processor shows as 2 processors.) Hugh <> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
On Monday 14 February 2005 20:55, Melissa Allen wrote: > I have located the download page for the driver for my particular Intel > PCI modem and for Mandrake 10 and up. I'll guess that I need the > version for the default configured Mandrake 10.0 system, but what is > the "SMP configured" system? Symmetric MultiProcessor. Usually servers although I have had this kernel get installed by default on my Dell Laptop which only has a single processor. Not sure why but I usually replace with a standard kernel and it doesn't really affect anything. You probably want to stick to non-SMP kernels since my guess is that you have a single processor. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong. > Just because I might learn something, I'll try installing the > driver first. If I can't make it work, I'll go for the external serial > modem... Never hurts to learn something. Well mostly, anyway. The only reason that I suggest external serial is that in a lot of cases, you have to install a lot of developer tools to get a winmodem working and even then, it is simply not as fast or good as an external serial. Some of the drivers are proprietary and the free versions are speed locked to a lower speed to entice you to pay the $45 vendor fee to get the fast ones. Given that the Windows drivers are free, I would refuse to pay this out of principle, much less for a lower speed, software modem. Throw in the cost of the external serial models and you might want to get one despite getting the winmodem to work, which is what I did. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
> You can also try opening up KPPP, choose Configure button and go to the > Device tab. From there, change the modem device from /dev/modem to > /dev/ttyS0 and then click on the Modem tab and click the Query Modem > button. That should give you some reponse. Rinse and repeat using the > /dev/ttyS1 device as the mdoem device. This was the problem! Device tab changed to /dev/ttySO and here I am in linux. I did configfure this in the drakX thingie, but obviously didn't work. But great to be up and running anyway. Thanks Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 00:26, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 14 Feb 2005 10:57, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > > > I've never heard of an external modem being problematic, so I'm sure > > > you/we > > > will find the answer. Meanwhile, there is a thread > > > http://dot.kde.org/1108262996/ in which there is the statement 'For > > > those interested, an overview of KPPP including screenshots is > > > available.' I suggest that you visit that thread and ask how to get > > > that overview. It may > > > be helpful to you. > > > > > > Anne Well - went to this link, and followed instructions, and modem worked immediatley. Despite the fact I had set to ttyS0 it was going to dev/modem (I think). Anyway working now. Thank you very much Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
On Feb 14, 2005, at 3:15 PM, Bryan Phinney wrote: Melissa, my suggestion was strictly applicable to an external serial modem that connects to a hardware port on the computer. It won't work for an internal modem because that is not a "real" modem. A driver must be loaded to create the com port for an internal card modem. Thank you very much for this information! I had no idea... You should try to go to the http://linmodems.org/ site and try to get information about how to install the driver for your particular modem. Given your error, there is no way for me to try to figure out what is wrong. I would need to see the script you are running to see if there is a dependent package that is missing. I have located the download page for the driver for my particular Intel PCI modem and for Mandrake 10 and up. I'll guess that I need the version for the default configured Mandrake 10.0 system, but what is the "SMP configured" system? Or buy an external serial modem for $15 US, which is by far the less troublesome route. Just because I might learn something, I'll try installing the driver first. If I can't make it work, I'll go for the external serial modem... Thanks very much for your help (and my apologies for misspelling your name before), Melissa Allen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
> Various people have mad useful suggestions to you regarding your modem > setup. Thanks for that - I did manage to get it going using kppp but am printing your instructions for filing - might be useful in the future. Thanks Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
Hi Rosemary Various people have mad useful suggestions to you regarding your modem setup. The way I normally set up an external serial modem is the following: Use Mandrake Control Centre to add a network connection. Ignore the error about no internet connection. Run kppp and go into the configuration section. Add a dialup account with your login id and the ISP phone number, etc. Go into the device section, and select a device (ttyS0, ttyS1, etc). Go into the modem section, and run "query modem". If you get any response, then you have selected the right serial port. Once you have found the right serial port, switch on the modem sound. Go back to the main kppp window and try to connect. If you have set up the modem right, you will hear the sound of the connection being made. Another useful tool for debugging modems is "minicom". Use "minicom -s" to set it up. When you have it running on a particular serial port, type "AT" and press enter. If it says "OK" then you are talking to your modem directly. You can also use wvdial to connect to the internet using a dialup modem, but this is more difficult to set up than kppp. good luck Duncan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
On Monday 14 February 2005 11:02, Melissa Allen wrote: > Dear All, > > I have been having a modem configuration problem (with Mandrake 10.1) > similar to the one that Rosemary describes, except that I am still > trying to configure the internal modem (56K PCI Data/Fax Modem) on my > machine (Dell Dimension 3000-Celeron processor 320). I tried Brian > Phinney's experiment with 'ln -s /dev/ttyS(n) /dev/modem' and have > tried ports up to ttyS7 (the modem is on COM3 according to Windows, so > I expected to be able to connect with ttyS2, but I tried all of these > just to be sure). Melissa, my suggestion was strictly applicable to an external serial modem that connects to a hardware port on the computer. It won't work for an internal modem because that is not a "real" modem. A driver must be loaded to create the com port for an internal card modem. Well, unless it is one of the very old and expensive kinds of internal modems that are "real" hardware modems. I don't think that they make those kind any more. > I have also visited the site that Anne Wilson recommends below. When I > have tried various ports in KPPP and then used "Query Modem", I am only > able to receive "query results" for ttyS0, but the results show all of > the fields (ATI - ATI7) empty. You should try to go to the http://linmodems.org/ site and try to get information about how to install the driver for your particular modem. Given your error, there is no way for me to try to figure out what is wrong. I would need to see the script you are running to see if there is a dependent package that is missing. Or buy an external serial modem for $15 US, which is by far the less troublesome route. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 14 Feb 2005 13:15, bascule wrote: > perhaps i missed it in previous threads, but we are talking about an > external serial port modem and not an external usb modem? > i have read of usb modems that are effectively external winmodems (never > actually come across one) > Rosemary 's is serial, Bascule. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCENg0kFAvMr/nNX8RAi8YAJ9JpUFMO+dMySCrxbXYUxw52Oj3XACglca6 r0B/8Ux6VbObxbbAW2YMc10= =wFXe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
Dear All, I have been having a modem configuration problem (with Mandrake 10.1) similar to the one that Rosemary describes, except that I am still trying to configure the internal modem (56K PCI Data/Fax Modem) on my machine (Dell Dimension 3000-Celeron processor 320). I tried Brian Phinney's experiment with 'ln -s /dev/ttyS(n) /dev/modem' and have tried ports up to ttyS7 (the modem is on COM3 according to Windows, so I expected to be able to connect with ttyS2, but I tried all of these just to be sure). I have also visited the site that Anne Wilson recommends below. When I have tried various ports in KPPP and then used "Query Modem", I am only able to receive "query results" for ttyS0, but the results show all of the fields (ATI - ATI7) empty. Finally, I have tried configuring the modem from the installation software. I received the following error message. "An unexpected error has happened: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/bin/perl-install/network/modem.pm line 21." Does this suggest that I should try an external modem? Thanks in advance, Melissa Allen On Feb 14, 2005, at 5:40 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: I've never heard of an external modem being problematic, so I'm sure you/we will find the answer. Meanwhile, there is a thread http://dot.kde.org/1108262996/ in which there is the statement 'For those interested, an overview of KPPP including screenshots is available.' I suggest that you visit that thread and ask how to get that overview. It may be helpful to you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
perhaps i missed it in previous threads, but we are talking about an external serial port modem and not an external usb modem? i have read of usb modems that are effectively external winmodems (never actually come across one) bascule On Monday 14 Feb 2005 07:50, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > Well - I went a bought an external hardware modem which says it is linux > compatible. I have attempted to install several times over but get this > message each time, when I test. "The system doesn't seem to be > connected to the Internet". All the cables, power etc seem to be in place. -- All assassins had a full-length mirror in their rooms, because it would be a terrible insult to anyone to kill them when you were badly dressed. (Pyramids) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 14 Feb 2005 10:57, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > > I've never heard of an external modem being problematic, so I'm sure > > you/we > > will find the answer. Meanwhile, there is a thread > > http://dot.kde.org/1108262996/ in which there is the statement 'For those > > interested, an overview of KPPP including screenshots is available.' I > > suggest that you visit that thread and ask how to get that overview. > > It may > > be helpful to you. > > > > Anne > > Yes - the information I read everywhere in linux is: that external > hardware modems work fine. > I've printed the info from the link you gave me - so here's hoping. > I did find a posting in linuxquestions forums though, which mentioned a > person having problems with an external modem in Mdk 10.1, which worked > fine in 10. Maybe a bug? > Don't know enough to comment really. Forgot - never overlook the obvious :-) Does it work in Windows? There is always the odd chance that it's faulty. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCEItDkFAvMr/nNX8RAuPjAJsHAcMS0ceYKARsGvFPSbD/2woQtgCfeQg9 Mkz5dJ8UGdW8cz+WDoKqKt0= =Fquf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 14 Feb 2005 10:57, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > > I've never heard of an external modem being problematic, so I'm sure > > you/we > > will find the answer. Meanwhile, there is a thread > > http://dot.kde.org/1108262996/ in which there is the statement 'For those > > interested, an overview of KPPP including screenshots is available.' I > > suggest that you visit that thread and ask how to get that overview. > > It may > > be helpful to you. > > > > Anne > > Yes - the information I read everywhere in linux is: that external > hardware modems work fine. > I've printed the info from the link you gave me - so here's hoping. > I did find a posting in linuxquestions forums though, which mentioned a > person having problems with an external modem in Mdk 10.1, which worked > fine in 10. Maybe a bug? > Don't know enough to comment really. What modem is it? What exactly happens when you try to connect? Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCEIsAkFAvMr/nNX8RAh3dAJ9oqOEi6ZLPJDnSK3nUyfePwbZ6/gCfW9O5 Mq8fEjJB6eBDGNkIWUUWY3A= =R9M+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
On Monday 14 February 2005 04:41, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > I bought this modem because internal modem too difficult for me to > configure, even though various articles said it is possible. So have > been trying to ad modem using system configuration, and more latterly > kppp. Thought kppp was going to do it, but got the usual "your system > is not connected" message. I suppose there is a way to do this - but > very disappointed at present. Rosemary, a potential solution that I sometimes take is to create a symbolic link in your dev filesystem to point to the com port and then try to connect. This assumes that a lot of dialer programs use /dev/modem as a shortcut to the modem. So, to experiment, open a command line, su to root and issue this command ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/modem Then try KPPP again and see if it dials in. If it works, then you know that your modem is on Com1. If it fails, then issue a command ln -s /dev/ttyS1 /dev/modem and then try again. If that works, then your modem is on Com2. One of those should work. If they do, you can actually setup an entry to automatically create the link for you in the startup scripts so that you don't have to do it every time. You can also try opening up KPPP, choose Configure button and go to the Device tab. From there, change the modem device from /dev/modem to /dev/ttyS0 and then click on the Modem tab and click the Query Modem button. That should give you some reponse. Rinse and repeat using the /dev/ttyS1 device as the mdoem device. -- Bryan Phinney Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
I've never heard of an external modem being problematic, so I'm sure you/we will find the answer. Meanwhile, there is a thread http://dot.kde.org/1108262996/ in which there is the statement 'For those interested, an overview of KPPP including screenshots is available.' I suggest that you visit that thread and ask how to get that overview. It may be helpful to you. Anne Yes - the information I read everywhere in linux is: that external hardware modems work fine. I've printed the info from the link you gave me - so here's hoping. I did find a posting in linuxquestions forums though, which mentioned a person having problems with an external modem in Mdk 10.1, which worked fine in 10. Maybe a bug? Don't know enough to comment really. Rosemary - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 14 Feb 2005 09:41, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > >When I installed Mdk 10, I also tested my modem during the installation. I > > had the same message you had. I ignored it and once the installation > > completed, I tried to connect (using kppp) and it worked without problem. > >Maryse > > I bought this modem because internal modem too difficult for me to > configure, even though various articles said it is possible. So have > been trying to ad modem using system configuration, and more latterly > kppp. Thought kppp was going to do it, but got the usual "your system > is not connected" message. I suppose there is a way to do this - but > very disappointed at present. > I've never heard of an external modem being problematic, so I'm sure you/we will find the answer. Meanwhile, there is a thread http://dot.kde.org/1108262996/ in which there is the statement 'For those interested, an overview of KPPP including screenshots is available.' I suggest that you visit that thread and ask how to get that overview. It may be helpful to you. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCEIAOkFAvMr/nNX8RAubjAJ463ff2n2jBOuowO2Ww09wbvNwRxwCeLV3g pMJrcz1PdQkmi9hD4Qiwpw4= =oV3C -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
When I installed Mdk 10, I also tested my modem during the installation. I had the same message you had. I ignored it and once the installation completed, I tried to connect (using kppp) and it worked without problem. Maryse I bought this modem because internal modem too difficult for me to configure, even though various articles said it is possible. So have been trying to ad modem using system configuration, and more latterly kppp. Thought kppp was going to do it, but got the usual "your system is not connected" message. I suppose there is a way to do this - but very disappointed at present. Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
> > Well - I went a bought an external hardware modem which says it is linux > > compatible. I have attempted to install several times over but get this > > message each time, when I test. "The system doesn't seem to be > > connected to the Internet". All the cables, power etc seem to be in > > place. When I installed Mdk 10, I also tested my modem during the installation. I had the same message you had. I ignored it and once the installation completed, I tried to connect (using kppp) and it worked without problem. Maryse Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
External serial modems do not need **any** drivers. That is why they are so much better than internal ones. You do not describe how you are trying to "install" the modem, but all you need to do is plug it in, and then tell your dialler application which serial port the modem is on. If you have plugged the modem in 'com1', then the linux device name will be /dev/ttyS0 , com2 is /dev/ttyS1 You have a choice of dialler applications to use. You can define a dial up connection in Mandrake Control centre, but many users of the KDE desktop prefer to use 'kppp' which is in the 'kdenetwork' package. And Yes, you should use automatic IP (DHCP) and DNS parameters. HTH derek Thanks - I think it should. Will try the kppp, which, from memory I used a few years ago to configure network. Thanks again Rosemary PS Hope my next message is from with Mandrake! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] modem problem (still!)
On Monday 14 February 2005 07:50, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > Well - I went a bought an external hardware modem which says it is linux > compatible. I have attempted to install several times over but get this > message each time, when I test. "The system doesn't seem to be > connected to the Internet". All the cables, power etc seem to be in place. > > There was no prompt to install a driver, and I see there isn't one on > the CD. Hmm I wonder if I have to get the driver elsewhere? > > The config wizard selected automatic IP parameters and DNS parameters. > Should I change this? > > I also changed BIOS PlugNPlay setting PCI IDE busmaster to 'enabled'. > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > Thanks > Rosemary External serial modems do not need **any** drivers. That is why they are so much better than internal ones. You do not describe how you are trying to "install" the modem, but all you need to do is plug it in, and then tell your dialler application which serial port the modem is on. If you have plugged the modem in 'com1', then the linux device name will be /dev/ttyS0 , com2 is /dev/ttyS1 You have a choice of dialler applications to use. You can define a dial up connection in Mandrake Control centre, but many users of the KDE desktop prefer to use 'kppp' which is in the 'kdenetwork' package. And Yes, you should use automatic IP (DHCP) and DNS parameters. HTH derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] modem problem (still!)
Well - I went a bought an external hardware modem which says it is linux compatible. I have attempted to install several times over but get this message each time, when I test. "The system doesn't seem to be connected to the Internet". All the cables, power etc seem to be in place. There was no prompt to install a driver, and I see there isn't one on the CD. Hmm I wonder if I have to get the driver elsewhere? The config wizard selected automatic IP parameters and DNS parameters. Should I change this? I also changed BIOS PlugNPlay setting PCI IDE busmaster to 'enabled'. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks Rosemary Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] ? Modem problem (still)
- Original Message - From: mbot <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hello newbie, > > Sorry to bother you all again and again about this matter. But I'm > getting frustated to find the (right) driver to make my modem work. > > Please, with all do respect, don't say that I have to go to winmodem or linmodem to >get the > driver. Cos I did, and had donwload some DRIVERS as folows: > 1. hsflinmodem-5.03.27mbsibeta02122600.1.i386.rpm > 2. hsflinmodem-5.03.27mbsibeta02122600k.2.4.19 16mdk-1mdk.i586.rpm > 3. ltmodem-kv 2.4.19 16mdk-8.22a5-1.i586.rpm > 4. ltmodem-kv_2.4.19_16mdk-8.26a9-1.i586.rpm > 5. riptide-0.4mbsibeta02122500k2.4.19_16mdk-1mdk.i586.rpm > 6. PCI_56K_V2_K2.2.17.tar > ... but the problem remains the same :-( . > > Once again, help me please. Cos I'm totally blind about this wonderful > OS. And in advance ... thank's a lot, Guys! > > -- > Best regards, > mbot *** Hi mbot, you might be able to get more precise information about your modem specs by going here: http://www.mbsi.ca/cnxtlindrv/modemident.html and getting the List Modem Application program. Run this program, either the Windows version on your MS system, or the Linux version on Linux. That should give you more details about your modem to help you find the right driver, if it's available. It's does seem that you have a HSF chipset modem though. Theoretically, the mbsi driver should work for you. Follow the instructions provided on mbsi's site very carefully. Have you tried compiling the generic driver package from source? I have a HCF Conexant modem, and get very good results with the mbsi driver. I do compile the generic source rpm on my machine. I get better performance doing that. I believe my winmodem actually works better as a Linmodem! However, YMMV, as always. Also, there is a tar package which may well be worth a try too. It can be quite discouraging to a new Linux user to try to get a winmodem to work. I know what it's like! Some can be made to work however, and work quite well too. I hope you get on-line w/Linux! Good luck to you. :-) --Angus "Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness."--James Thurber *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- ___ http://www.operamail.com Now with OperaMail Premium for only US$29.99/yr Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ? Modem problem (still)
Hello newbie, Sorry to bother you all again and again about this matter. But I'm getting frustated to find the (right) driver to make my modem work. Cos I really really really need to FULL MIGRATE to GNU/LINUX, and totally forget Winblowz Now, I give you more info about my modem (so you can give me the more accurate solution) :-) PROPETIES OF MY MODEM (from Win98's Control Panel -> Modem -> Properties -> Connection -> Advance -> View Log) : 01-25-2003 23:43:24.62 - Generic SoftK56 Data Fax in use. 01-25-2003 23:43:24.62 - Modem type: Generic SoftK56 Data Fax 01-25-2003 23:43:24.62 - Modem inf path: DCRCSTX.INF 01-25-2003 23:43:24.62 - Modem inf section: HSFModem1 01-25-2003 23:43:26.39 - 115200,N,8,1 01-25-2003 23:43:26.39 - 115200,N,8,1 01-25-2003 23:43:26.39 - Initializing modem. 01-25-2003 23:43:26.39 - Send: AT 01-25-2003 23:43:26.39 - Recv: AT 01-25-2003 23:43:26.39 - Recv: OK 01-25-2003 23:43:26.39 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:26.39 - Send: AT&FE0V1S0=0&C1&D2+MR=2;+DR=1;+ER=1;W2 01-25-2003 23:43:26.54 - Recv: AT&FE0V1S0=0&C1&D2+MR=2;+DR=1;+ER=1;W2 01-25-2003 23:43:26.54 - Recv: OK 01-25-2003 23:43:26.54 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:26.54 - Send: ATS7=60M1+ES=3,0,2;+DS=3;+IFC=2,2;X4 01-25-2003 23:43:26.54 - Recv: OK 01-25-2003 23:43:26.54 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:26.54 - Send: AT&FXS11=40S28=0S27=32 01-25-2003 23:43:26.68 - Recv: OK 01-25-2003 23:43:26.68 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:26.70 - Dialing. 01-25-2003 23:43:26.70 - Send: ATDT; 01-25-2003 23:43:27.11 - Recv: ATDT; 01-25-2003 23:43:29.21 - Recv: OK 01-25-2003 23:43:29.21 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:29.24 - Dialing. 01-25-2003 23:43:29.24 - Send: ATDT## 01-25-2003 23:43:29.24 - Recv: ATDT716100 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - Hanging up the modem. 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - Send: 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - Recv: NO CARRIER 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - Interpreted response: No Carrier 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - Send: ATH 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - Recv: ATH 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - Recv: OK 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:40.05 - 115200,N,8,1 01-25-2003 23:43:41.28 - Session Statistics: 01-25-2003 23:43:41.28 -Reads : 113 bytes 01-25-2003 23:43:41.28 -Writes: 124 bytes 01-25-2003 23:43:41.28 - Generic SoftK56 Data Fax closed. 01-25-2003 23:43:50.33 - Generic SoftK56 Data Fax in use. 01-25-2003 23:43:50.33 - Modem type: Generic SoftK56 Data Fax 01-25-2003 23:43:50.33 - Modem inf path: DCRCSTX.INF 01-25-2003 23:43:50.33 - Modem inf section: HSFModem1 01-25-2003 23:43:50.70 - 115200,N,8,1 01-25-2003 23:43:50.71 - 115200,N,8,1 01-25-2003 23:43:50.71 - Initializing modem. 01-25-2003 23:43:50.71 - Send: AT 01-25-2003 23:43:50.71 - Recv: AT 01-25-2003 23:43:50.71 - Recv: OK 01-25-2003 23:43:50.71 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:50.71 - Send: AT&FE0V1S0=0&C1&D2+MR=2;+DR=1;+ER=1;W2 01-25-2003 23:43:50.85 - Recv: AT&FE0V1S0=0&C1&D2+MR=2;+DR=1;+ER=1;W2 01-25-2003 23:43:50.85 - Recv: OK 01-25-2003 23:43:50.85 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:50.85 - Send: ATS7=60M1+ES=3,0,2;+DS=3;+IFC=2,2;X4 01-25-2003 23:43:50.85 - Recv: OK 01-25-2003 23:43:50.85 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:50.85 - Send: AT&FXS11=40S28=0S27=32 01-25-2003 23:43:51.00 - Recv: OK 01-25-2003 23:43:51.00 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:51.00 - Dialing. 01-25-2003 23:43:51.00 - Send: ATDT; 01-25-2003 23:43:51.10 - Recv: ATDT; 01-25-2003 23:43:53.20 - Recv: OK 01-25-2003 23:43:53.20 - Interpreted response: Ok 01-25-2003 23:43:53.20 - Dialing. 01-25-2003 23:43:53.20 - Send: ATDT## 01-25-2003 23:43:53.20 - Recv: ATDT716100 01-25-2003 23:44:30.30 - Recv: CONNECT 01-25-2003 23:44:30.30 - Interpreted response: Connect 01-25-2003 23:44:30.30 - Connection established at 115200bps. 01-25-2003 23:44:30.30 - Error-control off or unknown. 01-25-2003 23:44:30.30 - Data compression off or unknown. MY LINUX : 2.4.19_16mdk-1mdk.i686.rpm Please, with all do respect, don't say that I have to go to winmodem or linmodem to get the driver. Cos I did, and had donwload some DRIVERS as folows: 1. hsflinmodem-5.03.27mbsibeta02122600.1.i386.rpm 2. hsflinmodem-5.03.27mbsibeta02122600k.2.4.19 16mdk-1mdk.i586.rpm 3. ltmodem-kv 2.4.19 16mdk-8.22a5-1.i586.rpm 4. ltmodem-kv_2.4.19_16mdk-8.26a9-1.i586.rpm 5. riptide-0.4mbsibeta02122500k2.4.19_16mdk-1mdk.i586.rpm 6. PCI_56K_V2_K2.2.17.tar ... but the problem remains the same :-( . Once again, help me please. Cos I'm totally blind about this wonderful OS. And in advance ... thank's a lot, Guys! -- Best regards, mbot mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
