Re: [newbie] 400MHz enough video power?
On Sunday 10 Apr 2005 00:02, JoeHill wrote: I think it depends a lot on your video card/chipset. You cannot play DVD's at all without hardware acceleration, IIRC, no matter your system resources (though yours are definitely on the low end anyhow). I'm not sure this is true, Joe. My Matrox card has only basic drivers and can play DVDs. I doubt if the 400 MHz processor is up to it, though. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpDK5mEU75v1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] 400MHz enough video power?
Hi, I remember playing DVDs on a 466Mhz Celeron with a 4MB Matrox Millenium. I suppose it sould at least play (if not smooth) on your Machine. Regards *Sebastian Martin* Heinrich - Heine - Str. 2c 35039 Marburg a.d. Lahn Deutschland / Germany Tel.: +49 6421 897200 Mobil: +49 177 232 5 686 ICQ: 19221771 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anne Wilson schrieb am 10.04.2005 08:40 das Folgende: On Sunday 10 Apr 2005 00:02, JoeHill wrote: I think it depends a lot on your video card/chipset. You cannot play DVD's at all without hardware acceleration, IIRC, no matter your system resources (though yours are definitely on the low end anyhow). I'm not sure this is true, Joe. My Matrox card has only basic drivers and can play DVDs. I doubt if the 400 MHz processor is up to it, though. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 400MHz enough video power?
On Sunday 10 April 2005 05:10 am, Sebastian Martin wrote: Hi, I remember playing DVDs on a 466Mhz Celeron with a 4MB Matrox Millenium. I suppose it sould at least play (if not smooth) on your Machine. Regards *Sebastian Martin* Heinrich - Heine - Str. 2c 35039 Marburg a.d. Lahn Deutschland / Germany Tel.: +49 6421 897200 Mobil: +49 177 232 5 686 ICQ: 19221771 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anne Wilson schrieb am 10.04.2005 08:40 das Folgende: On Sunday 10 Apr 2005 00:02, JoeHill wrote: I think it depends a lot on your video card/chipset. You cannot play DVD's at all without hardware acceleration, IIRC, no matter your system resources (though yours are definitely on the low end anyhow). I'm not sure this is true, Joe. My Matrox card has only basic drivers and can play DVDs. I doubt if the 400 MHz processor is up to it, though. Anne I think joe got it part way right, I know I can play dvds all day long on a celery 366, but it also has 640 megs system memory and 128 meg video mem on an nvidia geforce ti4400, so the real answer ain't the cpu, but what else besides the cpu is in the box, and running in the background in the box.. -- linux counter #167806 (http://counter.li.org/) website=http://ed-tharp.kicks-ass.org; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 400MHz enough video power?
JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:34:33 -0400 Miark disseminated the following: I have a Toshiba Tecra 8000 with a 400MHz processor, 192MB RAM, and DVD drive. From within XFCE (i.e. a lightweight enviro) I tried to play a DVD last night with mplayer, and totem, but nothing seems to work. Is 400 MHz just too little power? I think it depends a lot on your video card/chipset. You cannot play DVD's at all without hardware acceleration, IIRC, no matter your system resources (though yours are definitely on the low end anyhow). That just isn't so. I have a GeF4, I use the 'nv' driver, I've never used the proprietary nvidia driver, DVD's and any other kind'a movies play jus' fine. DVD's, or any videos for that matter, _do not_ require hardware acceleration. Miark, do you have the PLF versions of your players an their dependencies installed ? Particularly libdvdcss2-1.2.8-3plf 400Mhz, an 192mb ram should not pose a problem other than takin a little longer to fill the initial cache. Miark, have you tried playin the DVD with mplayer on the CL ? 'mplayer dvd://1 -dvd-device /dev/hd?' (fwiw, I think -dvd-device might be deprecated now, but it can't hurt) And don't try to play the DVD untill the light on your DVDrom has quit blinkin after you insert the DVD. If that light stays on or keeps blinkin, the drive can't read the media. Usually but not always the movie is title 1. You may need to try 2,3,4.. also. Will other DVD's play? I've run into maybe 1:50 commercial DVD's that just won't play on a computer. Couldn't even successfully rip to .avi with (PLF) dvd::rip mplayer will more often play problem DVD's than xine. BUT, every once in a while I've encountered DVD's that xine will play and mplayer won't. Those are the players I would recommend, not totem -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 400MHz enough video power?
On Sunday 10 Apr 2005 16:28, Tom wrote: mplayer will more often play problem DVD's than xine. BUT, every once in a while I've encountered DVD's that xine will play and mplayer won't. Those are the players I would recommend, not totem Side-issue, but interesting. I have one disk that was burned on the hardware, stand-alond dvd recorder, that will not play in either xine or mplayer. It must just be marginal, something about not being able to read some of the ifo files, I think. I can play the individual chapters, launching from konqueror, under xine, but not the film as a whole. On the stand-alone recorder it plays OK - and guess what it's running? Unless I'm very much mistaken that's xine with a few extra menu options. If you request the text menu it is identical to the one I see on this box using the same option! My daughter has a Mustek portable dvd player, and that appears to have the same xine software, too. I've read a lot about embedded linux, but this is the first time that I have been aware of it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpiUJCmI4nPp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] 400MHz enough video power?
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:28:12 -0500 Tom disseminated the following: That just isn't so. I have a GeF4, I use the 'nv' driver, I've never used the proprietary nvidia driver, DVD's and any other kind'a movies play jus' fine. DVD's, or any videos for that matter, _do not_ require hardware acceleration. Sorry, only speaking from personal experience. DVD's or AVI's will not play, at least not full screen anyhow, unless I'm using hardware acceleration, ie. the nvidia driver. Like you always say, YMMV ;-) -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 14:23:58 up 48 days, 15:31, 7 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 +++ President Bush is asking Congress for $80 billion dollars to rebuild Iraq. And when you make out that check, remember there are two L's in Halliburton. -- David Letterman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 400MHz enough video power?
On Sunday 10 Apr 2005 19:26, JoeHill wrote: On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:28:12 -0500 Tom disseminated the following: That just isn't so. I have a GeF4, I use the 'nv' driver, I've never used the proprietary nvidia driver, DVD's and any other kind'a movies play jus' fine. DVD's, or any videos for that matter, _do not_ require hardware acceleration. Sorry, only speaking from personal experience. DVD's or AVI's will not play, at least not full screen anyhow, unless I'm using hardware acceleration, ie. the nvidia driver. Like you always say, YMMV ;-) Didn't I read somewhere that DivX files require at least a 500Mhz processor? Although that was for Windoze based systems. Haven't the faintest what a DVD would need, though. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Mandrake 10.1 Microsoft Free Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 400MHz enough video power?
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:26:16 -0400 JoeHill disseminated the following: That just isn't so. I have a GeF4, I use the 'nv' driver, I've never used the proprietary nvidia driver, DVD's and any other kind'a movies play jus' fine. DVD's, or any videos for that matter, _do not_ require hardware acceleration. Sorry, only speaking from personal experience. DVD's or AVI's will not play, at least not full screen anyhow, unless I'm using hardware acceleration, ie. the nvidia driver. Like you always say, YMMV ;-) I stand corrected. Just tested it with the nv driver, and the DVD did play, fullscreen and all. I must have been thinking of trying to play movies with my onboard video chip (crap) before I got my GF. Sorry :-( -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 14:43:46 up 48 days, 15:50, 3 users, load average: 0.11, 0.11, 0.08 +++ Behind every great fortune is a crime. -- Balzac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 400MHz enough video power?
On Sunday 10 Apr 2005 19:26, JoeHill wrote: On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:28:12 -0500 Tom disseminated the following: That just isn't so. I have a GeF4, I use the 'nv' driver, I've never used the proprietary nvidia driver, DVD's and any other kind'a movies play jus' fine. DVD's, or any videos for that matter, _do not_ require hardware acceleration. Sorry, only speaking from personal experience. DVD's or AVI's will not play, at least not full screen anyhow, unless I'm using hardware acceleration, ie. the nvidia driver. Like you always say, YMMV ;-) There must be other factors, Joe. As I said, they play on my old Matrox card without acceleration, and this box has an NVidia card, but I'm using the nv driver only. Xine plays them here, too. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgphrxad92YmO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] 400MHz enough video power?
Ian wrote: On Sunday 10 Apr 2005 19:26, JoeHill wrote: On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:28:12 -0500 Tom disseminated the following: That just isn't so. I have a GeF4, I use the 'nv' driver, I've never used the proprietary nvidia driver, DVD's and any other kind'a movies play jus' fine. DVD's, or any videos for that matter, _do not_ require hardware acceleration. Sorry, only speaking from personal experience. DVD's or AVI's will not play, at least not full screen anyhow, unless I'm using hardware acceleration, ie. the nvidia driver. Like you always say, YMMV ;-) Didn't I read somewhere that DivX files require at least a 500Mhz processor? I'd heard that rumor too Although that was for Windoze based systems. There is no reality comin from Windoze, either the users or M$ Haven't the faintest what a DVD would need, though. Ian, while not on DVD, I took some CD's burned with .vobs ripped from DVD up to my daughter an g'kids when I went up to Houston for Christmas. She has my old PII 350 (that I oc'd to 467 the whole time I had it). Mostly an experiment to see how the videos played, or even if they would. Her system has ancient ram in it, from an even older P90 system I use to have. Rated for 66mhz I guess, it was from before the PC66 standard was invented. I ran that old ram at 133+. When I gave the system to my daughter, I had to keep it at 100mhz to match the default PII 350 FSB. That ram, 64mb's (2x32), is old an 'rode hard an put up wet'. The video card is an old S3 'Virge'. Also previously oc'd to the limit, but not in her system. Which other than the ancient ram, is run at default speeds now. It's a system runnin Linux, an the last time I updated it for her, it was to 10.1, KDE, w/PLF additions. That 350, w/o 3d/accel, only 64mb overan worn out ram played the .vob's just fine usin (PLF) mplayer. So I gave her some $$'s to go to Wal*Mart and buy a DVDrom drive (ata) and some DVD's for the kids. The Cdrom was old an tired anyhow (also a carry over from my my ancient P90). Installed the DVDrom, an played the DVD's for the kids. 350Mhz, overstretched 64mb ram, no hardware accel on an ancient 2mb video card. It did take close to a minute to fill the cache an start playin the movie tho. (64mb, 250 /swap). After the wait, it played flawlessly. I suppose it is time to build another system for myself an give her an the g'kids this old XP3000+, no 3d/acell. Just with an old 512mb stick of ram I've got layin around in it ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 400MHz enough video power?
I have a Toshiba Tecra 8000 with a 400MHz processor, 192MB RAM, and DVD drive. From within XFCE (i.e. a lightweight enviro) I tried to play a DVD last night with mplayer, and totem, but nothing seems to work. Is 400 MHz just too little power? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 400MHz enough video power?
On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 18:34:33 -0400 Miark disseminated the following: I have a Toshiba Tecra 8000 with a 400MHz processor, 192MB RAM, and DVD drive. From within XFCE (i.e. a lightweight enviro) I tried to play a DVD last night with mplayer, and totem, but nothing seems to work. Is 400 MHz just too little power? I think it depends a lot on your video card/chipset. You cannot play DVD's at all without hardware acceleration, IIRC, no matter your system resources (though yours are definitely on the low end anyhow). -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 18:58:17 up 47 days, 20:05, 7 users, load average: 0.11, 0.16, 0.35 +++ The struggle between people and capital is now an epic struggle between life and death. -- Vandana Shiva, World Social Forum, January 16, 2004 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
