Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[dfox]

Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!
>After ca. 6 hrs, I've still only got about 10% downloaded (with DSL). 
> Only got about 43 hours to go.  Wooo h!!  Not too impressed with
> Bittorent so far .

I've had similar results with most of those napster-like things. I don't 
bother with them anymore, they're too slow. I spend so much time just 
waiting for the files to become available.

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Jason Greenwood]

Here is what I do if I want a "complete Mandrake" via download (yes, one 
can join the club and still avoid the hassles of it too =). I download 
the 3 DL ISO's, then I make a copy of "Contribs" on the mirrors at the 
time of release. I also take a copy of the relevant PLF RPMS as well. 
Contribs+PLF add about 2GB worth of extra goodies (I presume are 
included in Pro-Suite and PowerPack) and then I have the complete and 
current distro all via download. Saves me waiting- and waiting for my 
pre-order. Then from there-Cookering to stay current (on unstable 
partition) is a breeze...

Cheers

Jason

robin wrote:

H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

On Wednesday 15 October 2003 13:25, ed tharp wrote:
 

and right after I posted that, I realized I bet I also have to have the
3 cd 'download' edition to get the first 3 cds, as well as the 3
powerpack cds (silver club member), oh well I guess it will run until I
get home from work
  


Huhh?? You need those too to install?  Those PowPack CD's aren't the 
first 3 install CD's?
 

LOL.  In my experience, the real doozy is the contrib CD.  Most of us 
are jaded from having sensible applications that work out of the box - 
the contrib CD is where we can find the wacky stuff that does things 
like display your filesystem as 3d towerblocks, compute the rainfall 
for New Zealand or play a game in which you are a space pilot who has 
to battle heroically against the screen freezing.  Contrib breaks the 
predicatble boredom of the download CDs and reminds us what computing 
is really about!

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[robin]

Lee Wiggers wrote:

On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 01:07:25 +0300
robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

   

On Wednesday 15 October 2003 13:25, ed tharp wrote:

 

and right after I posted that, I realized I bet I also have to
   

have the>3 cd 'download' edition to get the first 3 cds, as well
as the 3>powerpack cds (silver club member), oh well I guess it
will run until I>get home from work
 

  

   

Huhh?? You need those too to install?  Those PowPack CD's aren't
the first 3 install CD's?
 

LOL.  In my experience, the real doozy is the contrib CD.  Most of
us are jaded from having sensible applications that work out of
the box - the contrib CD is where we can find the wacky stuff that
does things like display your filesystem as 3d towerblocks,
compute the rainfall for New Zealand or play a game in which you
are a space pilot who has to battle heroically against the screen
freezing.  Contrib breaks the predicatble boredom of the download
CDs and reminds us what computing is really about!
Which one predicts the rainfall in NZ?  I've been looking everywhere
for that one.
   

Actually that one is on the download CD - its a daemon called "random" ;-)

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Lee Wiggers]

On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 01:07:25 +0300
robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> 
> >On Wednesday 15 October 2003 13:25, ed tharp wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>and right after I posted that, I realized I bet I also have to
> >have the>3 cd 'download' edition to get the first 3 cds, as well
> >as the 3>powerpack cds (silver club member), oh well I guess it
> >will run until I>get home from work
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Huhh?? You need those too to install?  Those PowPack CD's aren't
> >the first 3 install CD's?
> >  
> >
> LOL.  In my experience, the real doozy is the contrib CD.  Most of
> us are jaded from having sensible applications that work out of
> the box - the contrib CD is where we can find the wacky stuff that
> does things like display your filesystem as 3d towerblocks,
> compute the rainfall for New Zealand or play a game in which you
> are a space pilot who has to battle heroically against the screen
> freezing.  Contrib breaks the predicatble boredom of the download
> CDs and reminds us what computing is really about!
> 
> Sir Robin
> 
> -- 
> "I declare this sentence a performative!"
> 
> Robin Turner
> IDMYO
> Bilkent Univeritesi
> Ankara 06533
> Turkey
> 
> www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Which one predicts the rainfall in NZ?  I've been looking everywhere
for that one.

Lee

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[robin]

H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

On Wednesday 15 October 2003 13:25, ed tharp wrote:
 

and right after I posted that, I realized I bet I also have to have the
3 cd 'download' edition to get the first 3 cds, as well as the 3
powerpack cds (silver club member), oh well I guess it will run until I
get home from work
   

Huhh?? You need those too to install?  Those PowPack CD's aren't the first 3 
install CD's?
 

LOL.  In my experience, the real doozy is the contrib CD.  Most of us 
are jaded from having sensible applications that work out of the box - 
the contrib CD is where we can find the wacky stuff that does things 
like display your filesystem as 3d towerblocks, compute the rainfall for 
New Zealand or play a game in which you are a space pilot who has to 
battle heroically against the screen freezing.  Contrib breaks the 
predicatble boredom of the download CDs and reminds us what computing is 
really about!

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Joeb]

Glenn wrote:

After ca. 6 hrs, I've still only got about 10% downloaded (with DSL).  Only 
got about 43 hours to go.  Wooo h!!  Not too impressed with Bittorent so 
far .



On Tue October 14 2003 21:00, Miark wrote:
 

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:44:31 -0500, Avi Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
   

wrote:
 

I am getting Download rate of 165 KB/s and Upload rate of 55 KB/s on my
company's T1.
 

I'm doing well, too. Logged into the Club with no hassle. Clicked on the
BitTorrent link and it started the download immediately. After five minutes
of running, I'm getting a download speed of 45KB/second. I'm sure that'll
go up slowly.
I'm not doing somersaults about BitTorrent because it's kinda clunky and
I don't know if/how to throttle the upload speed. But it works for me,
and I understand Mandrake's desire to spare their servers, so I can't
complain.
Miark
   

 



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Did you open up the ports it says to?  Without doing so, download speed 
sucks.

Joeb


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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Joeb]

Dennis Myers wrote:

On Wednesday 15 October 2003 03:38 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
 

On the Mandrake club site there are a few articles on bittorrent and how
to make it work. They have tried to make this easy and have been letting
people test the bittorrent set-up's before hand. If you are having
problems login to the club and read the postings. I had a few errors
yesterday, and it was going slow. Left it running all night and I have 8
hours to wait. That's not so bad as I will be at work for 9 so it should
be finished by the time I get home. Yeah, it may be a bit slower, but it
means more people get it faster.
Tony.

   


 

I did the testing and opened the suggested ports for port forwarding. Testing 
worked, but not the real deal.  I could connect then but not now. ???   

 



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Try downloading the .torrent file again.  If for some reason your IP 
address changed, then the .torrent will be incorrect for your new IP.

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RE: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Duron . Davis]

Well, shiznit.   I thought I was ahead of the curve.   That's gottat be
false advertising.   Sorry y'all.

-Original Message-
From: Avi Schwartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 1:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I'm in the process downloading from a mirror site.
> 
> -Original Message-> 
> 
> On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:26 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> 
>>9.2 is out for club members
> 
> Saw that, but I am not able to connect to a tracker, how bout anyone else?

I am downloading it now via bitTorrent.

Avi



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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Wednesday 15 October 2003 13:25, ed tharp wrote:
> and right after I posted that, I realized I bet I also have to have the
> 3 cd 'download' edition to get the first 3 cds, as well as the 3
> powerpack cds (silver club member), oh well I guess it will run until I
> get home from work

Huhh?? You need those too to install?  Those PowPack CD's aren't the first 3 
install CD's?

Good luck,
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RE: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Tony S. Sykes]

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:42 PM


On Wednesday 15 October 2003 03:38 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> On the Mandrake club site there are a few articles on bittorrent and
how
> to make it work. They have tried to make this easy and have been
letting
> people test the bittorrent set-up's before hand. If you are having
> problems login to the club and read the postings. I had a few errors
> yesterday, and it was going slow. Left it running all night and I have
8
> hours to wait. That's not so bad as I will be at work for 9 so it
should
> be finished by the time I get home. Yeah, it may be a bit slower, but
it
> means more people get it faster.
>
> Tony.
>

>
I did the testing and opened the suggested ports for port forwarding.
Testing 
worked, but not the real deal.  I could connect then but not now. ???   

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I had a few error's last night, but I just left it and went to bed. This
morning when I got up I had 8 hours left to go. 
I was getting more uploaded than downloaded last night but that had
changed by this morning. It is possibly cause it is still newish who
knows. I have used it a few times before on Linux and Windows and had
similar error's on both os's but it does still seem to work. I agree
with others that the speed is not the best. That will hopefully be fixed
in the not to distant future but it does look good for what it is
capable of.

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Dennis Myers]

On Wednesday 15 October 2003 03:38 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> On the Mandrake club site there are a few articles on bittorrent and how
> to make it work. They have tried to make this easy and have been letting
> people test the bittorrent set-up's before hand. If you are having
> problems login to the club and read the postings. I had a few errors
> yesterday, and it was going slow. Left it running all night and I have 8
> hours to wait. That's not so bad as I will be at work for 9 so it should
> be finished by the time I get home. Yeah, it may be a bit slower, but it
> means more people get it faster.
>
> Tony.
>

>
I did the testing and opened the suggested ports for port forwarding. Testing 
worked, but not the real deal.  I could connect then but not now. ???   

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[ed tharp]

On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 07:01, ed tharp wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 04:13, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > On Wednesday 15 October 2003 10:01, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:
> > > i also agree with you, I am not able to get my Bittorrent to work even
> > > at HOME!, My system is on DMZ host... STILL not working!!!
> > >
> > > YPK
> > 
> > I'm not even trying, any more:(
> > 
> > I finally got logged into club and noticed the 25% price cut on pre-orders for 
> > members..so I ordered the PowerPack at MandrakeStore.
> > Maybe better that way. I'll have more fun when it gets here:)
> > 
> > good luck,
> > harM
> 
> I cranked up bit torrent last night, after an hour it told me I have 72
> hours left. this morning, I have all 3 isos.

and right after I posted that, I realized I bet I also have to have the
3 cd 'download' edition to get the first 3 cds, as well as the 3
powerpack cds (silver club member), oh well I guess it will run until I
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[ed tharp]

On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 04:13, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 October 2003 10:01, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:
> > i also agree with you, I am not able to get my Bittorrent to work even
> > at HOME!, My system is on DMZ host... STILL not working!!!
> >
> > YPK
> 
> I'm not even trying, any more:(
> 
> I finally got logged into club and noticed the 25% price cut on pre-orders for 
> members..so I ordered the PowerPack at MandrakeStore.
> Maybe better that way. I'll have more fun when it gets here:)
> 
> good luck,
> harM

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hours left. this morning, I have all 3 isos.
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Inhabitant of Zion]

> 
> After ca. 6 hrs, I've still only got about 10% downloaded (with DSL).  Only 
> got about 43 hours to go.  Wooo h!!  Not too impressed with Bittorent so 
> far .
> 

Yes BT is a bit hit and miss. I got 45kb/s no problem with the test but am now getting 
a paulty 4kb/s with the real thing. No tacker errors as yet.

As long as I get it down before 9.3 comes out... :-)

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Glenn]

After ca. 6 hrs, I've still only got about 10% downloaded (with DSL).  Only 
got about 43 hours to go.  Wooo h!!  Not too impressed with Bittorent so 
far .



On Tue October 14 2003 21:00, Miark wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:44:31 -0500, Avi Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > I am getting Download rate of 165 KB/s and Upload rate of 55 KB/s on my
> > company's T1.
>
> I'm doing well, too. Logged into the Club with no hassle. Clicked on the
> BitTorrent link and it started the download immediately. After five minutes
> of running, I'm getting a download speed of 45KB/second. I'm sure that'll
> go up slowly.
>
> I'm not doing somersaults about BitTorrent because it's kinda clunky and
> I don't know if/how to throttle the upload speed. But it works for me,
> and I understand Mandrake's desire to spare their servers, so I can't
> complain.
>
> Miark

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Miark]

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:44:31 -0500, Avi Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am getting Download rate of 165 KB/s and Upload rate of 55 KB/s on my 
> company's T1.

I'm doing well, too. Logged into the Club with no hassle. Clicked on the 
BitTorrent link and it started the download immediately. After five minutes
of running, I'm getting a download speed of 45KB/second. I'm sure that'll
go up slowly.

I'm not doing somersaults about BitTorrent because it's kinda clunky and
I don't know if/how to throttle the upload speed. But it works for me,
and I understand Mandrake's desire to spare their servers, so I can't
complain.

Miark

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[ed tharp]

On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 21:47, Miark wrote:
> > When I click on "mytorrent-ai9nl.torrent", (from mozilla, per 
> > instructions) it doesn't even load the gui ... 
> 
> Perhaps you can try Konq instead of Moz.
> 
> > So much for that valuable club "membership".
> 
> Cynicism will get you nowhere.
> 
> Miark
> 
he needs to have bit torrent and the bittorrent gui rpms installed, then
click on mytorrent in what ever folder he saved it in. but if he wants
to just be an unhappy bugger instead of asking for help, then I would
not tell him a thing.
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Miark]

> When I click on "mytorrent-ai9nl.torrent", (from mozilla, per 
> instructions) it doesn't even load the gui ... 

Perhaps you can try Konq instead of Moz.

> So much for that valuable club "membership".

Cynicism will get you nowhere.

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Harv Nelson]

Sharrea Day wrote:

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:49, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:
 

Ditto on that Error 404!!!

On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 12:47, Poogle wrote:
   

On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 H:41 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
 

On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:26 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
   

9.2 is out for club members

Good luck,
HarM
 

Saw that, but I am not able to connect to a tracker, how bout anyone
else?
   

Likewise - error 404
 

For me clicking on the torrent in the browser starts btdownloadergui which 
promptly gives me an error message:
"GOT BAD FILE_INFO"
or similar

A clue anyone?

Sharrea
 

H...

When I click on "mytorrent-ai9nl.torrent", (from mozilla, per 
instructions) it doesn't even load the gui ... just wants to download 
another copy of the "mytorrent.torrent" file.  Something is hosed in 
that program.  Guess I'll just wait 'till the ISO's are available on the 
mirror.  So much for that valuable club "membership".

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[ed tharp]

On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 19:02, Aron Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 15:50, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > On Wednesday 15 October 2003 00:34, Aron Smith wrote:
> > > do you have (shudder) Thiz Linux ?
> > 
> > Frankly: never heard of itwhazdat? Drool!!
> > 
> > HarM
> It came with the box im running now It was lousey I can send it to you
> if you send me your snailmail address
> 
> 
> I have a pristine 2 disk set of redhat 5.2.
> __
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Aron Smith]

On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 15:50, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 October 2003 00:34, Aron Smith wrote:
> > do you have (shudder) Thiz Linux ?
> 
> Frankly: never heard of itwhazdat? Drool!!
> 
> HarM
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Wednesday 15 October 2003 00:34, Aron Smith wrote:
> do you have (shudder) Thiz Linux ?

Frankly: never heard of itwhazdat? Drool!!

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Aron Smith]

On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 13:43, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 October 2003 22:32, Charlie M. wrote:
> > I'll still re-up the membership, but it's only a method to support my
> > favourite distribution. I've never logged into the Club site.
> 
> I've still got 700 and so much days to go before my membership expiresI'm 
> not sure 'cause I can't login, club is saturated.
> 
> That's about another 2 years i.e. upto Mdk-11.2 ;)
> I'll just pre-order a boxed set at Mdk store anyway. I'm doing this to support 
> (I run cooker) so who cares if it takes a week or so longer.
> I collect linux distro CD's, the more obscure (or older) the better:)
> 
> Soplease don't feel inhibited (anyone) to offer:D
> 
> Good luck,
> HarM
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Tuesday 14 October 2003 23:22, Dennis Myers wrote:
> I will second the bittorrent sux, I have had it running most of the day and
> still can not get a d/l started.  Not connecting with a tracker. : (
> Dennis M. linux user #180842

At the moment: Can't even login at club.
I'd like to see if I can get a price cut on pre-orders as a (life) member.
Oh well, plenty of days to comeya should see the traffic on #mandrake on 
this issue:) Why do free-loaders always want to jump the queue too?
Won't change much for me anyway, as I've been keeping cooker up to date:)

Good luck,
HarM

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attic.and playing 'em all day.
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Dennis Myers]

On Tuesday 14 October 2003 03:17 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 October 2003 19:59, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > If you don't want to update to 9.2 from cooker mirrors, then
> > about the only viable way to get the iso's is to wait till the end
> > of this month when the iso's should be available by ftp, after the
> > boxed sets are shipping. I agree and support Mandrake doin this,
> > I'm just very disappointed it's currently by bittorrent.
> > --
> > Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas
>
> Yep, I'm waiting for that.
> I'm waiving my silver membership for that.bittorrent sux:(
>
> Good luck,
> HarM
I will second the bittorrent sux, I have had it running most of the day and 
still can not get a d/l started.  Not connecting with a tracker. : (
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Tuesday 14 October 2003 22:32, Charlie M. wrote:
> I'll still re-up the membership, but it's only a method to support my
> favourite distribution. I've never logged into the Club site.

I've still got 700 and so much days to go before my membership expiresI'm 
not sure 'cause I can't login, club is saturated.

That's about another 2 years i.e. upto Mdk-11.2 ;)
I'll just pre-order a boxed set at Mdk store anyway. I'm doing this to support 
(I run cooker) so who cares if it takes a week or so longer.
I collect linux distro CD's, the more obscure (or older) the better:)

Soplease don't feel inhibited (anyone) to offer:D

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Charlie M.]

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October 14, 2003 02:17 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 October 2003 19:59, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > If you don't want to update to 9.2 from cooker mirrors, then
> > about the only viable way to get the iso's is to wait till the end
> > of this month when the iso's should be available by ftp, after the
> > boxed sets are shipping. I agree and support Mandrake doin this,
> > I'm just very disappointed it's currently by bittorrent.
> > --
> > Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas
>
> Yep, I'm waiting for that.
> I'm waiving my silver membership for that.bittorrent sux:(
>
> Good luck,
> HarM

I'll still re-up the membership, but it's only a method to support my 
favourite distribution. I've never logged into the Club site. 

I suppose I'll have to order the box set from the store since the "retail 
channels" here in Canada (this part of it anyway) suck vacuum through a 
thousand mile long leaky straw.

Who the devil has time for the club?

C.
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner]

Charlie wrote:

[...]

> But you're still better off doing it Tom's way. Remember that at the moment
> there's very little difference between cooker and 9.2 Canicule anyway.

Thank you in advance.

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Charlie M.]

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October 14, 2003 01:22 pm, Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner wrote:
> > > Um, I'm currently downloading it via FTP:  ftp.phys.ttu.edu
> >
> > 
> >
> > That's RC2; NOT 9.2. Those ISOs are more than a month old and there are
> > so many updates between that and current cooker that you may as well just
> > do as Tom suggests and go for a full cooker upgrade. That would actually
> > involve less bandwidth than what you're doing.
>
> You can use: ftp://ftp.phys.ttu.edu/pub/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS for
> [urpmi --auto-select] your 9.1-Mandrake.
>
> Am I right?
>
> Thorsten

You should be able to, with some restrictions;

you need a fast enough connection to make it worthwhile,

you need to change the "Path to hdlist/synthesis" to reflect the new tree 
you're pulling from.

If you have the space on your system I'd recommend that you ftp the 9.2 tree 
(all of it including contrib) from any mirror you can find it on to a local 
directory and make a boot floppy or CD using the hd.img from /Mandrake/base. 
You can quite likely do a hard drive "upgrade" install that way.

But you're still better off doing it Tom's way. Remember that at the moment 
there's very little difference between cooker and 9.2 Canicule anyway.

Regards;
Charlie
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Tuesday 14 October 2003 19:59, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> If you don't want to update to 9.2 from cooker mirrors, then
> about the only viable way to get the iso's is to wait till the end
> of this month when the iso's should be available by ftp, after the
> boxed sets are shipping. I agree and support Mandrake doin this,
> I'm just very disappointed it's currently by bittorrent.
> --
> Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas

Yep, I'm waiting for that.
I'm waiving my silver membership for that.bittorrent sux:(

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[H.J.Bathoorn]

On Tuesday 14 October 2003 21:26, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:
> Can someone tell me HOW i can do this? I already have the ISO for RC2 of
> 9.2
>
> thanks!
>
> YPK
http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/rsync-mandrakeiso.html
tells all:)

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Sharrea Day]

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:49, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:
> Ditto on that Error 404!!!
>
> On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 12:47, Poogle wrote:
> > On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 H:41 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:26 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > > > 9.2 is out for club members
> > > >
> > > > Good luck,
> > > > HarM
> > >
> > > Saw that, but I am not able to connect to a tracker, how bout anyone
> > > else?
> >
> > Likewise - error 404

For me clicking on the torrent in the browser starts btdownloadergui which 
promptly gives me an error message:
"GOT BAD FILE_INFO"
or similar

A clue anyone?

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Charlie M.]

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October 14, 2003 01:26 pm, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:
>
> Can someone tell me HOW i can do this? I already have the ISO for RC2 of
> 9.2
>
> thanks!
>
> YPK

See the Community Wiki. I believe it's been added there, 

http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome

if not it's still on Greg's page at:

http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/rsync-mandrakeiso.html

It won't do you any good until the ISOs are available on the mirrors that are 
set for rsync though.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Yoel P. Krigsman]

On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 15:07, Charlie M. wrote:
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> 
> October 14, 2003 12:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Um, I'm currently downloading it via FTP:  ftp.phys.ttu.edu
> 
> 
> That's RC2; NOT 9.2. Those ISOs are more than a month old and there are so 
> many updates between that and current cooker that you may as well just do as 
> Tom suggests and go for a full cooker upgrade. That would actually involve 
> less bandwidth than what you're doing.
> 
> Or just do a network install from the 9.2 tree on the same machine. Probably 
> just as fast.
> BTW don't toss the ISOs you already have, you can rsync them to the actual 
> release when it's available on the mirrors.

Can someone tell me HOW i can do this? I already have the ISO for RC2 of
9.2 

thanks!

YPK


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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner]

> > Um, I'm currently downloading it via FTP:  ftp.phys.ttu.edu

> 

> That's RC2; NOT 9.2. Those ISOs are more than a month old and there are so
> many updates between that and current cooker that you may as well just do
> as Tom suggests and go for a full cooker upgrade. That would actually
> involve less bandwidth than what you're doing.

You can use: ftp://ftp.phys.ttu.edu/pub/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS for 
[urpmi --auto-select] your 9.1-Mandrake.

Am I right?

Thorsten


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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Charlie M.]

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October 14, 2003 12:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Um, I'm currently downloading it via FTP:  ftp.phys.ttu.edu


That's RC2; NOT 9.2. Those ISOs are more than a month old and there are so 
many updates between that and current cooker that you may as well just do as 
Tom suggests and go for a full cooker upgrade. That would actually involve 
less bandwidth than what you're doing.

Or just do a network install from the 9.2 tree on the same machine. Probably 
just as fast.

BTW don't toss the ISOs you already have, you can rsync them to the actual 
release when it's available on the mirrors.

Regards;
Charlie
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RE: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Duron . Davis]

Um, I'm currently downloading it via FTP:  ftp.phys.ttu.edu

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Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!


On Tuesday October 14 2003 11:49 am, Yoel P. Krigsman wrote:
> Ditto on that Error 404!!!
>
> I am wondering if 9.2RC2 is the same as 9.2

   If you're using RC2, you can just add cooker sources for RPMS and 
RPM2 from a cooker mirror and update to
tom $ cat /etc/mandrake-release
Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (Torrent) for i586

  A lot less frustrating than bittorrent, and less mb's to d/l too.
Current cooker on the mirrors is 9.2, plus a few updates. 9.1 users 
can also use cooker to update to 9.2, just 'urpmi urpmi' first, 
then get the rest. Don't be put off by the total number of mb's 
urpmi displays. That's installed space, not actual d/l. As a rule 
of thumb, the amount you'll be d/l'g is about 40% of the installed 
space. Since you're upgrading (ie, replacing packages) there'll be 
little to no additional disk space needed. The challenge will be 
finding a good mirror. (hint: European mirrors are better)
  http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3

   I'm really disappointed 9.2 is available to Club members thru 
torrent and not iso's by ftp.  Torrent sux!  As does any p2p scheme 
for big files when getters far outnumber givers. And given the 
nature of asyncronous BB connections, givers upload speeds will be 
much slower than the getters d/l speeds. Many users will see d/l 
speeds slower than dialup, while their own upload speed will be 
max'd out.  And, after sufferin thru a long slow d/l of the iso's 
by torrent, you just might find the md5sums won't check. Another 
p2p problem with getting large files from many sources (givers).

If you don't want to update to 9.2 from cooker mirrors, then 
about the only viable way to get the iso's is to wait till the end 
of this month when the iso's should be available by ftp, after the 
boxed sets are shipping. I agree and support Mandrake doin this, 
I'm just very disappointed it's currently by bittorrent.
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Avi Schwartz]

Tom Brinkman wrote:

   I'm really disappointed 9.2 is available to Club members thru 
torrent and not iso's by ftp.  Torrent sux!  As does any p2p scheme 
for big files when getters far outnumber givers. And given the 
nature of asyncronous BB connections, givers upload speeds will be 
much slower than the getters d/l speeds. Many users will see d/l 
speeds slower than dialup, while their own upload speed will be 
max'd out.  And, after sufferin thru a long slow d/l of the iso's 
by torrent, you just might find the md5sums won't check. Another 
p2p problem with getting large files from many sources (givers).
I am getting Download rate of 165 KB/s and Upload rate of 55 KB/s on my 
company's T1.

Avi


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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

[Dennis Myers]

On Tuesday 14 October 2003 09:26 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> 9.2 is out for club members
>
> Good luck,
> HarM
Saw that, but I am not able to connect to a tracker, how bout anyone else?
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[newbie] 9.2 is out!

[H.J.Bathoorn]

9.2 is out for club members

Good luck,
HarM

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