Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-21 Thread QingHua Wang
You can go to the website of Acrobat and find there a version for Unix(Linux).
This version works well. Sometime some special symbols can not be displayed 
correctly with xpdf, but they have no problems with Acrobat reader. HTH.

Qinghua



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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Thread Paul
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 01:57, manolis wrote:
 Adobe Acrobat can also edit pdf files.
 
 As far as I know Xpdf and ghostview are just pdf viewers like acrobat reader.
 
 koppermind
 
 

As I understand it, pdf files are regarded as more secure for archiving,
etc. as they can't (readily)be edited. Once converted to pdf they stay
that way.

However, you could probably use something like gocr to convert to text 
then edit, before converting back with ghostscript or kword. Graphics
would be a problem though.

Paul M.


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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 18 Jul 2003 10:05 pm, Bob Read wrote:
 Are there any good ways of working (heavily)  with Adobe
 Acrobat in Linux?

Bob - I'm not a heavy user of Acrobat, but I have installed the full 
Acrobat 4.0 under Win4Lin, and it appears to be working well.  I 
opened one existing file and imported a picture, and then opened a 
.pdf which I had created with Serif PagePlus 8+PDF and highlighted 
areas of text.  The files save OK.  If you want me to do anything in 
particular to test it for you please mail me off-list.

BTW - I am using the PagePlus as a combination DTP and pdf creator for 
Parish Magazines.

Anne

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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Thread aron smith
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 01:42, Paul wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 01:57, manolis wrote:
  Adobe Acrobat can also edit pdf files.
  
  As far as I know Xpdf and ghostview are just pdf viewers like acrobat reader.
  
  koppermind
  
  
 
 As I understand it, pdf files are regarded as more secure for archiving,
 etc. as they can't (readily)be edited. Once converted to pdf they stay
 that way.
 
 However, you could probably use something like gocr to convert to text 
 then edit, before converting back with ghostscript or kword. Graphics
 would be a problem though.
 
 Paul M.
Could be right never tried it with graphics
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Thread Bob Read
Anne, thanks for your detailed response.  My concern is for a
friend of ours who runs a (very successful) one-woman advertising
business.  She is fed up with the, inherent problems with XP, 2000
etc.  And is just digging out from her second virus problem this
year.  She is now ready to consider Linux, and I want to have as many
answers ready for her as possible.
(I'm hoping to find someone in the Rhode Island area who has
the expertise to make this happen smoothly.)
Again, thank you,
Bob
Anne Wilson wrote:
(snip)
Bob - I'm not a heavy user of Acrobat, but I have installed the full 
Acrobat 4.0 under Win4Lin, and it appears to be working well.  I 
opened one existing file and imported a picture, and then opened a 
.pdf which I had created with Serif PagePlus 8+PDF and highlighted 
areas of text.  The files save OK.  If you want me to do anything in 
particular to test it for you please mail me off-list.

BTW - I am using the PagePlus as a combination DTP and pdf creator for 
Parish Magazines.

Anne



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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 2:22 pm, Bob Read wrote:
 Anne, thanks for your detailed response.  My concern is for a
 friend of ours who runs a (very successful) one-woman advertising
 business.  She is fed up with the, inherent problems with XP, 2000
 etc.  And is just digging out from her second virus problem this
 year.  She is now ready to consider Linux, and I want to have as
 many answers ready for her as possible.

 (I'm hoping to find someone in the Rhode Island area who has
 the expertise to make this happen smoothly.)

 Again, thank you,
 Bob

Win4Lin requires a windows licence and install disks, and you are 
running a virtual machine under linux.  All peripherals are 
controlled by the linux drivers, so if it works with linux it works 
for win4lin.  I run windows98, and it's well-nigh crash-proof! 
Win4Lin is not free, but it's not expensive, and NeTraverse have an 
excellent support team - I have even had a response on Sunday 
evening.

Anne

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RE: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Thread Frankie
No...

A virus is just a program like any other..

If you are running win98 inside linux, and windows runs a
virus, it can do anything it could do if windows was running
on its own.

The only difference is that it can't trash your linux
install.
can still trash the windows install though..

As I said, a virus is a program, and if a program couldn't
run
in win4lin windows it would be useless...

regards

Franki
http://htmlfixit.com


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Wilson
Sent: Saturday, 19 July 2003 10:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?


On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 3:15 pm, Bob Read wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
 /

  Win4Lin requires a windows licence and install disks,
and you are
  running a virtual machine under linux.  All peripherals
are
  controlled by the linux drivers, so if it works with
linux it
  works for win4lin.  I run windows98, and it's well-nigh
  crash-proof! Win4Lin is not free, but it's not
expensive, and
  NeTraverse have an excellent support team - I have even
had a
  response on Sunday evening.
 
  Anne

 Does running Win98 under Linux (Win4Lin) still provide the
 virus protection of Linux?  I'm not realy clear on that.
 It sounds good.

 Bob

Yes - you are still running linux, and all the processes of
linux.
The windows bit is a layer on top.  Personally I play safe
and never
access the Internet from the windows layer, though.

Anne



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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 19 July 2003 17:01, Anne Wilson wrote:

  Nope, you still have to be carefull!

 I'm guessing that HarM means that the windows install could still be
 infected, and I guess that's so, but if you keep all the Internet
 activity to outside of windows you should be safe.  The nice thing is
 that it is so easy to do.  |I run Win4Lin almost full-screen, so that
 I can just see the status bar below it.  I switch back and forth as
 often as necessary.  I can keep my mail program open while I'm
 working on the windows app, and I feel quite safe.  Of course, you
 still need to use common sense.  No use inviting trouble ;-)

 Anne

You're right, that is what I mean.

Personally I like using win4lin for testing cross platform apps and some games 
for the kids.
Alas lately I had to revive IExplorer because mozilla doesn't handle the 
javascripts well, that my (online) bank uses. Frankly Moz never has, where 
netscape (v4) did:o(
And the wonderful Calypso mailer for my (slow)GSM connection aboard ship is 
another reason. Downloading messages selectively after checking the headers 
is a real (financial) life saver.

I think what linux will do, is stop a virus/trojan using stealthy backdoors to 
get out and multiply or express itself.
Anyway it's easy enough to delete the win folder in the home directory and 
replace it with a back up or a fresh one, if one thinks it's infected:o)
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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Thread Bob Read
I see.   Then if we kept all email, browsers, address books
etc. out of the Windows layer, then we should be fairly
immune?
Bob

Frankie wrote:
No...

A virus is just a program like any other..

If you are running win98 inside linux, and windows runs a
virus, it can do anything it could do if windows was running
on its own.
The only difference is that it can't trash your linux
install.
can still trash the windows install though..
As I said, a virus is a program, and if a program couldn't
run
in win4lin windows it would be useless...
regards

Franki
http://htmlfixit.com


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RE: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Thread Frankie
well yes, but if you are on an internal network..
you might want to limit your filesharing as well..

Many virus's now will copy themselves to any network share
that the infected computer had access to.

rgds

Franki
http://htmlfixit.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Read
Sent: Saturday, 19 July 2003 11:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?


I see.   Then if we kept all email, browsers, address books
etc. out of the Windows layer, then we should be fairly
immune?

Bob

Frankie wrote:
 No...

 A virus is just a program like any other..

 If you are running win98 inside linux, and windows runs a
 virus, it can do anything it could do if windows was
running
 on its own.

 The only difference is that it can't trash your linux
 install.
 can still trash the windows install though..

 As I said, a virus is a program, and if a program couldn't
 run
 in win4lin windows it would be useless...

 regards

 Franki
 http://htmlfixit.com





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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 19 Jul 2003 4:40 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Saturday 19 July 2003 17:01, Anne Wilson wrote:
   Nope, you still have to be carefull!
 
  I'm guessing that HarM means that the windows install could still
  be infected, and I guess that's so, but if you keep all the
  Internet activity to outside of windows you should be safe.  The
  nice thing is that it is so easy to do.  |I run Win4Lin almost
  full-screen, so that I can just see the status bar below it.  I
  switch back and forth as often as necessary.  I can keep my mail
  program open while I'm working on the windows app, and I feel
  quite safe.  Of course, you still need to use common sense.  No
  use inviting trouble ;-)
 
  Anne

 You're right, that is what I mean.

 Personally I like using win4lin for testing cross platform apps and
 some games for the kids.
 Alas lately I had to revive IExplorer because mozilla doesn't
 handle the javascripts well, that my (online) bank uses. Frankly
 Moz never has, where netscape (v4) did:o(
 And the wonderful Calypso mailer for my (slow)GSM connection aboard
 ship is another reason. Downloading messages selectively after
 checking the headers is a real (financial) life saver.

 I think what linux will do, is stop a virus/trojan using stealthy
 backdoors to get out and multiply or express itself.
 Anyway it's easy enough to delete the win folder in the home
 directory and replace it with a back up or a fresh one, if one
 thinks it's infected:o)

Even better - if you do a tar of the win directory when you know all 
is installed and working well, it's as good as doing a partition 
image, so you can reinstall to exactly where you were very quickly.

Anne

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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 19 July 2003 23:08, Anne Wilson wrote:


 Even better - if you do a tar of the win directory when you know all
 is installed and working well, it's as good as doing a partition
 image, so you can reinstall to exactly where you were very quickly.

 Anne

Yeah, on top of that if you make a habit of saving important stuff in the 
mydata folder you don't loose anything out of there either:o)

If it weren't for my gps navigation programs (vector maps!) I wouldn't dream 
of double booting. Actually windows is quite good at that.It'll even run 
those programs happily on a 486.
I had a compaq pressario dedicated to do just that(despite the small screen), 
but I lent it to a collegea and never seen it since.
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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-19 Thread Miark
You can mount non-Win4Lin directories as drives in Win4Lin so that files
are available to both Win4Lin, Linux, and/or dual-boot systems. I do
that so that my data drive is available to Linux, Win4Lin, and XP which
I dual-boot to on occasion to play games. (Win4Lin makes a default drive
D: Mydata that is just a folder in your Linux home directory called
mydata.)

If you ran some virus code in Win4Lin that wiped drives or destroyed
data randomly, your data from on the mounted filesystems would be at
risk. 

But yes, the best thing to do to minimize such risk is perform all 
e-mail and Internet activity on the Linux side.

Miark


On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:57:38 -0400, Bob Read [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I see.   Then if we kept all email, browsers, address books
 etc. out of the Windows layer, then we should be fairly
 immune?
 
 Bob
 
 Frankie wrote:
  No...
  
  A virus is just a program like any other..
  
  If you are running win98 inside linux, and windows runs a
  virus, it can do anything it could do if windows was running
  on its own.
  
  The only difference is that it can't trash your linux
  install.
  can still trash the windows install though..
  
  As I said, a virus is a program, and if a program couldn't
  run
  in win4lin windows it would be useless...
  
  regards
  
  Franki
  http://htmlfixit.com
  
 
 
 



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[newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-18 Thread Bob Read
Are there any good ways of working (heavily)  with Adobe
Acrobat in Linux?
Bob
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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-18 Thread aron smith
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 14:05, Bob Read wrote:
 Are there any good ways of working (heavily)  with Adobe
 Acrobat in Linux?
 
 Bob
 --
 Bob Read  // Registered Linux user #287118
 http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/b/e/bestill.htm
 
 Soli Deo Gloria-Solus Christus-Sola Gratia-Sola Fide-Sola Scriptura
 
 The Church of The Master [Baptist]
  Providence, Rhode Island
 http://users.ids.net/~bobread/cotm.htm
Bob As Far as I Know Acrobat is not really necessary if you are using
mandrake you have xpdf and ghostview also most of your applications will
work with .pdf files (postscript is linux's native tounge.
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-18 Thread manolis
Adobe Acrobat can also edit pdf files.

As far as I know Xpdf and ghostview are just pdf viewers like acrobat reader.

koppermind


  19  2003 00:33, / aron smith :
 On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 14:05, Bob Read wrote:
  Are there any good ways of working (heavily)  with Adobe
  Acrobat in Linux?
 
  Bob
  --
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  http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/b/e/bestill.htm
 
  Soli Deo Gloria-Solus Christus-Sola Gratia-Sola Fide-Sola Scriptura
  
  The Church of The Master [Baptist]
   Providence, Rhode Island
  http://users.ids.net/~bobread/cotm.htm

 Bob As Far as I Know Acrobat is not really necessary if you are using
 mandrake you have xpdf and ghostview also most of your applications will
 work with .pdf files (postscript is linux's native tounge.

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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-18 Thread Thomas Bitschnau
Define working (heavily)  with Adobe Acrobat in Linux!

Greez,

Thomas B.

On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 23:05, Bob Read wrote:
 Are there any good ways of working (heavily)  with Adobe
 Acrobat in Linux?
 
 Bob



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