Re: [newbie] CD-writer fails with CD-R but not CD-RW
Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 11:55, John Richard Smith wrote: The test files were assembled with mkisofs along the lines you mention. They write out to the CD-RW OK. then write to disc tmp]$ cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -eject -ignsize /tmp.iso (where dev=0,0,0 is whatever it should be on your system, ie cdrecord -scanbus, and speed is whatever is appropiate for your device) I've used your cdrecord command - no joy.It's slightly different from the one I used (cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -data /tmp.iso) There is a slight difference in the output at Sense Code: here - Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0 whereas it was - Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error) Fru 0x0 I wondered whether that might mean cdrecord's power settings for CD-Rs on the Sony CDwriter were incorrect, whereas they were satisfactory for writing CD-RWs. What do you think? DougB "cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -eject -ignsize corrimage Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'SONY' Identifikation : 'CD-RW CRX175E2 ' Revision : 'S002' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-2 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1359872 = 1328 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 0 MB padsize: 312 KB Total size:0 MB (00:04.02) = 302 sectors Lout start:1 MB (00:06/02) = 302 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 4 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-) (2) ATIP start of lead in: -12508 (97:15/17) ATIP start of lead out: 359848 (79:59/73) Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 22 Manufacturer: Ritek Co. Blocks total: 359848 Blocks current: 359848 Blocks remaining: 359546 Forcespeed is OFF. Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real TAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. BURN-Free is ON. Turning BURN-Free off Performing OPC... Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01:0 of0 MB written. Track 01: writing 312 KB of pad data. Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 294912/614400 (300 sectors). cdrecord: Input/output error. flush cache: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 5.073s timeout 120s Trouble flushing the cache Writing time: 15.920s Average write speed 0.8x. Fixating... cdrecord: Input/output error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 40.434s timeout 480s cmd finished after 40.434s timeout 480s Fixating time: 40.438s cdrecord: fifo had 5 puts and 5 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%" The only difference. I think your on to something, take a look at, http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg04341.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg04350.html http://www.psychology4u.de/mcguinness/brenner_error.txt http://www.ale.org/archive/ale/ale-2000-09/msg00624.html from man cdrecord, DIAGNOSTICS You have 9 seconds to type ^C to abort cdrecord after you see the mes- sage: Starting to write CD at speed %d in %s mode for %s session. A typical error message for a SCSI command looks like: cdrecord: I/O error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 00 20 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 25 00 00 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x25 Qual 0x00 (logical unit not supported) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.002s timeout 40s
Re: [newbie] CD-writer fails with CD-R but not CD-RW
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 11:55, John Richard Smith wrote: > The test files were assembled with mkisofs along the lines you mention. They write out to the CD-RW OK. > then write to disc > > tmp]$ cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -eject -ignsize /tmp.iso > (where dev=0,0,0 is whatever it should be on your system, ie cdrecord > -scanbus, and speed is whatever is appropiate for your device) > I've used your cdrecord command - no joy.It's slightly different from the one I used (cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -data /tmp.iso) There is a slight difference in the output at Sense Code: here - Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0 whereas it was - Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error) Fru 0x0 I wondered whether that might mean cdrecord's power settings for CD-Rs on the Sony CDwriter were incorrect, whereas they were satisfactory for writing CD-RWs. What do you think? DougB "cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -eject -ignsize corrimage Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'SONY' Identifikation : 'CD-RW CRX175E2 ' Revision : 'S002' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-2 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1359872 = 1328 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 0 MB padsize: 312 KB Total size:0 MB (00:04.02) = 302 sectors Lout start:1 MB (00:06/02) = 302 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 4 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-) (2) ATIP start of lead in: -12508 (97:15/17) ATIP start of lead out: 359848 (79:59/73) Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 22 Manufacturer: Ritek Co. Blocks total: 359848 Blocks current: 359848 Blocks remaining: 359546 Forcespeed is OFF. Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real TAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. BURN-Free is ON. Turning BURN-Free off Performing OPC... Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01:0 of0 MB written. Track 01: writing 312 KB of pad data. Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 294912/614400 (300 sectors). cdrecord: Input/output error. flush cache: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 5.073s timeout 120s Trouble flushing the cache Writing time: 15.920s Average write speed 0.8x. Fixating... cdrecord: Input/output error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 40.434s timeout 480s cmd finished after 40.434s timeout 480s Fixating time: 40.438s cdrecord: fifo had 5 puts and 5 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%" The only difference. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD-writer fails with CD-R but not CD-RW
Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 00:09, John Richard Smith wrote: Douglas Bainbridge wrote: Data. Sizewise: recently, only small amounts up to and around 1MB, just in order to test whether I could get the thing to work at all. DougB OK so you are writing data files, and there is no issue of fitting size on the discs. You created the iso files with mkisofs first ? like this, cd to destination directory (eg /tmp) tmp]$ mkisofs -r -J -v -o tmp.iso / then write to disc tmp]$ cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -eject -ignsize /tmp.iso (where dev=0,0,0 is whatever it should be on your system, ie cdrecord -scanbus, and speed is whatever is appropiate for your device) no need to create iso files first if you are downloading iso files, but if you are merely writing some data files wise to disc for your own convenience then you must create your own iso files first, and to that end it helps when on the CL to assemble all the data files in one single directory to start with. Maybe I am overstating the obvious here, appologise if I am. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD-writer fails with CD-R but not CD-RW
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 00:09, John Richard Smith wrote: > Douglas Bainbridge wrote: > > >On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 18:26, John Richard Smith wrote: > > > > > >>Douglas Bainbridge wrote: > >> > >> > > > > > >Thanks, John. The driver is recognised alright with cdrecord -scanbus > >and I can do a dummy run satisfactorily with a CD-R disk in the drive, > >also cdrecord writes stuff out through the drive quite happily to a > >(Toshiba) CD-RW disk. I forgot to mention that the same CD-R disks can > >be written to (after cdrecord has refused) by the drive in Win'98 > >(bah!). > > > > > > OK, that is good, looks like you have a device. > The blank discs write satisfactorily in windblows, so they are not > really the problem. > You say it can do a dummy write with the lazer turned off, but not an > actual write, odd. > Is there a size problem ? Maybe too much data to fit on the disc ? > What are you writing , data or audio ? > > John Data. Sizewise: recently, only small amounts up to and around 1MB, just in order to test whether I could get the thing to work at all. DougB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD-writer fails with CD-R but not CD-RW
Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 18:26, John Richard Smith wrote: Douglas Bainbridge wrote: "cdrecord: OPC failed" I believe it is saying that the drive has failed. That could mean anything. Maybe the drive isn't set up right for cdrecord to work with it. or maybe the driver doesn't work with your make and model. First thing I would do is in a terminal, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cdrecord -scanbus, Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'Generic ' 'USB Storage-SMC ' '0090' Removable Disk scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-ROM DVD-116 ' '1.22' Removable CD-ROM 1,1,0 101) 'MITSUMI ' 'CR-48X9TE ' '1.0C' Removable CD-ROM To see what you have got in the way of recognised devices. John Thanks, John. The driver is recognised alright with cdrecord -scanbus and I can do a dummy run satisfactorily with a CD-R disk in the drive, also cdrecord writes stuff out through the drive quite happily to a (Toshiba) CD-RW disk. I forgot to mention that the same CD-R disks can be written to (after cdrecord has refused) by the drive in Win'98 (bah!). DougB P.S. cdrecord -scanbus output appended: Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'SONY' 'CD-RW CRX175E2 ' 'S002' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * OK, that is good, looks like you have a device. The blank discs write satisfactorily in windblows, so they are not really the problem. You say it can do a dummy write with the lazer turned off, but not an actual write, odd. Is there a size problem ? Maybe too much data to fit on the disc ? What are you writing , data or audio ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD-writer fails with CD-R but not CD-RW
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 18:26, John Richard Smith wrote: > Douglas Bainbridge wrote: > > > > "cdrecord: OPC failed" > I believe it is saying that the drive has failed. > That could mean anything. > Maybe the drive isn't set up right for cdrecord to work with it. > or maybe the driver doesn't work with your make and model. > > First thing I would do is in a terminal, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cdrecord -scanbus, > Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling > Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 > Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' > scsibus0: > 0,0,0 0) 'Generic ' 'USB Storage-SMC ' '0090' Removable Disk > > scsibus1: > 1,0,0 100) 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-ROM DVD-116 ' '1.22' Removable CD-ROM > 1,1,0 101) 'MITSUMI ' 'CR-48X9TE ' '1.0C' Removable CD-ROM > > > > To see what you have got in the way of recognised devices. > > John Thanks, John. The driver is recognised alright with cdrecord -scanbus and I can do a dummy run satisfactorily with a CD-R disk in the drive, also cdrecord writes stuff out through the drive quite happily to a (Toshiba) CD-RW disk. I forgot to mention that the same CD-R disks can be written to (after cdrecord has refused) by the drive in Win'98 (bah!). DougB P.S. cdrecord -scanbus output appended: Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'SONY' 'CD-RW CRX175E2 ' 'S002' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD-writer fails with CD-R but not CD-RW
Douglas Bainbridge wrote: Hi, Can anyone help? I have been struggling with this problem for ages, RTFM etc. hasn't resolved it for me. MDK9.1. Using cdrecord on the CLI. My Sony CD-writer writes happily to a Toshiba CD-RW, multi-session ,etc. no problem; but I cannot write anything to a CD-R (I've tried Sony Supremas, Kodak Ultima 80, Packard Bell 1-32x). The messages I get are all minor variations on the following, and the commands minor variations on "cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -data image-name" (burnfree ON,OFF; multi, no multi,etc) What the h**l is going on? DougB Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'SONY' Identifikation : 'CD-RW CRX175E2 ' Revision : 'S002' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-2 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1359872 = 1328 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 0 MB padsize: 312 KB Total size:0 MB (00:04.02) = 302 sectors Lout start:1 MB (00:06/02) = 302 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 4 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-) (2) ATIP start of lead in: -12508 (97:15/17) ATIP start of lead out: 359848 (79:59/73) Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 22 Manufacturer: Ritek Co. Blocks total: 359848 Blocks current: 359848 Blocks remaining: 359546 Forcespeed is OFF. Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real TAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. BURN-Free is OFF. Performing OPC... cdrecord: Input/output error. send opc: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 54 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 73 03 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 3.693s timeout 60s cdrecord: OPC failed. Writing time:3.711s cdrecord: fifo had 5 puts and 0 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%. "cdrecord: OPC failed" I believe it is saying that the drive has failed. That could mean anything. Maybe the drive isn't set up right for cdrecord to work with it. or maybe the driver doesn't work with your make and model. First thing I would do is in a terminal, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cdrecord -scanbus, Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'Generic ' 'USB Storage-SMC ' '0090' Removable Disk scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-ROM DVD-116 ' '1.22' Removable CD-ROM 1,1,0 101) 'MITSUMI ' 'CR-48X9TE ' '1.0C' Removable CD-ROM To see what you have got in the way of recognised devices. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CD-writer fails with CD-R but not CD-RW
Hi, Can anyone help? I have been struggling with this problem for ages, RTFM etc. hasn't resolved it for me. MDK9.1. Using cdrecord on the CLI. My Sony CD-writer writes happily to a Toshiba CD-RW, multi-session ,etc. no problem; but I cannot write anything to a CD-R (I've tried Sony Supremas, Kodak Ultima 80, Packard Bell 1-32x). The messages I get are all minor variations on the following, and the commands minor variations on "cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -data image-name" (burnfree ON,OFF; multi, no multi,etc) What the h**l is going on? DougB Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'SONY' Identifikation : 'CD-RW CRX175E2 ' Revision : 'S002' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-2 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1359872 = 1328 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 0 MB padsize: 312 KB Total size:0 MB (00:04.02) = 302 sectors Lout start:1 MB (00:06/02) = 302 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 4 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-) (2) ATIP start of lead in: -12508 (97:15/17) ATIP start of lead out: 359848 (79:59/73) Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 22 Manufacturer: Ritek Co. Blocks total: 359848 Blocks current: 359848 Blocks remaining: 359546 Forcespeed is OFF. Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real TAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. BURN-Free is OFF. Performing OPC... cdrecord: Input/output error. send opc: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 54 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 73 03 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 3.693s timeout 60s cdrecord: OPC failed. Writing time:3.711s cdrecord: fifo had 5 puts and 0 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer/DMA
> > > > just in case: > > hdparm -d1 /dev/devicename > > I'll look into it. Do you know how to run a benchmark with hdparm? Someone > showed it a while back and I can't remember the switch. hdparm -tT /dev/device too bad it didn't support benchmarking a floppy disk when i tried ;o) > > If you are absolutely in love with this method, try lower speeds and > > always make sure the original CD is in good condition. > > Yeah. I'll probably try a make an iso with mkisofs first in future. Is that > the proper way of doing it? well, i don't think there is one 'proper way', but that would be one solution... you could also dd to a file on your hd first, like: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/username/cdimage.iso and then cdrecord -v speed=16 -dev=0,2,0 /home/username/cdimage.iso HTH Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer/DMA
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:14, Jordan Elver wrote: > Hi, > > > Yes, it's possible. However, making your own backup copies of copy > > protected cd's is only possible if you can make your burner and your > > software do an elaborate dance; and they both have to be doing exotic > > things. In linux the hardware necessities you can get; the software you > > cannot. > > > > There are only two brands of burner software that I have tested that are > > capable of creating backup copies of copy protected cd's with the proper > > hardware. Neither one of them run on Linux. This is a major problem > > and I wish both of the two burner software firms would port to linux. > > Either that or an enthusiastic brainiac capable of authoring a new > > project. > > Very frustrating. cdrecord seems to be the tool everybody uses, is that > what is usuallu recommended? > As i understand it, all of the GUI's use cdrecord. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer/DMA
Hi Damian, > most likely. That cdrecord output you posted there was at > 31% fifo fill... that's hardly a good level. And then: I suppose nearer 100% would be good :) > Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x09 (write error - loss of streaming) Fru 0x0 > > "Loss of streaming"... > > > Is this a DMA issue? I read some posts here before regarding turning on > > DMA > > just in case: > hdparm -d1 /dev/devicename I'll look into it. Do you know how to run a benchmark with hdparm? Someone showed it a while back and I can't remember the switch. > However i would not bet on DMA being the problem. As a rule of thumb, > i NEVER do cd-to-cd copy on the fly. It is faster, yes, but what happens > when dd if=/dev/cdrom gets stuck trying to read one sector from beneath a > scratch in the middle of the burning session? At 16x speed, it's really not > hard to get a buffer underrun... > > If you are absolutely in love with this method, try lower speeds and always > make sure the original CD is in good condition. Yeah. I'll probably try a make an iso with mkisofs first in future. Is that the proper way of doing it? Thanks, Jordan -- Jordan Elver If your boss is getting you down, look at him through the prongs of a fork and imagine him in jail. -- David Brent (The Office) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer/DMA
Hi, > Yes, it's possible. However, making your own backup copies of copy > protected cd's is only possible if you can make your burner and your > software do an elaborate dance; and they both have to be doing exotic > things. In linux the hardware necessities you can get; the software you > cannot. > > There are only two brands of burner software that I have tested that are > capable of creating backup copies of copy protected cd's with the proper > hardware. Neither one of them run on Linux. This is a major problem > and I wish both of the two burner software firms would port to linux. > Either that or an enthusiastic brainiac capable of authoring a new > project. Very frustrating. cdrecord seems to be the tool everybody uses, is that what is usuallu recommended? > You have what looks like a PX-W1610A; correct me if I'm wrong. You can > check the performance/capabilities of your drive on the following page: Thats it. > When selecting a burner, and you are looking at doing bit for bit > copies, possibly with copy protected material, you absolutely need to > use the CloneCD burner evaluation list for making a decision. Otherwise > you are walking into it blind. I recommend Liteon brand burners as a > start; personally I have here a Toshiba SD-1202 DVD Combo drive that > burns with the correct EFM encoding, plus does RAW-DAO 96 write, and > RAW+96 read. I've been using Clone CD under windows. Copied what I wanted to fine. Obviously software, as you said above. Nevermind. Cheers, Jordan -- Jordan Elver Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part. -- David Brent (The Office) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer/DMA
Charlie, > As far as I can discover Jordan the best shot you have at copying DRM (copy > protected) CDs is a Windows program called Clone-CD or a drive that > supports DAO in Linux. A friend has a lot of PC games and has a lot of > small children around frequently (, pretty shiny fwisbee me play!) > so he went hunting for a back-up utility. That's all I know about it. Yeah, I already use that under Windows. I just find it very frustrating that Linux can't do this. > I can't remember the commands Jordan, sorry. Open a terminal and type > > man hdparm > or hdparm --help I'll take a look throught the archive as well. It's definately been raised here before. > What help? :-) Sometimes, just talking it over with someone else helps :) Cheers, Jordan -- Jordan Elver Process and Procedure are the last hiding place of people without the wit and wisdom to do their job properly. -- David Brent (The Office) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer/DMA
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 17:55, Jordan Elver wrote: > It's a variety. How can I copy protected cds. I noticve a thread earlier about > cd clone on windows. It surely must be possible to copy "bit by bit" under > linux? My drive is a Plextor 16/10/40A. Yes, it's possible. However, making your own backup copies of copy protected cd's is only possible if you can make your burner and your software do an elaborate dance; and they both have to be doing exotic things. In linux the hardware necessities you can get; the software you cannot. There are only two brands of burner software that I have tested that are capable of creating backup copies of copy protected cd's with the proper hardware. Neither one of them run on Linux. This is a major problem and I wish both of the two burner software firms would port to linux. Either that or an enthusiastic brainiac capable of authoring a new project. You have what looks like a PX-W1610A; correct me if I'm wrong. You can check the performance/capabilities of your drive on the following page: http://www.elby.ch/english/products/clone_cd/writers/p.html#plextor If that model number above is indeed your drive, then your plextor does NOT do correct EFM encoding. This means wether the drive writes regular bit patterns correctly or not, a feature necessary in order to do correct bit for bit backup copies of copy protected CD's. At least, many of the more advanced copy protection schemes. Depends on the game. Plextor used to be an exceptional brand, however in the last few years they have slipped considerably, at least in the bit for bit arena. Note that none of the drives listed on the clonecd page above will do EFM encoding completely correctly. This can possibly cause problems when replicating copy protection schemes that utilize "weak sectors". Such as Morrowind, for example. Having a plextor greatly reduces your chances of success in such a situation. When selecting a burner, and you are looking at doing bit for bit copies, possibly with copy protected material, you absolutely need to use the CloneCD burner evaluation list for making a decision. Otherwise you are walking into it blind. I recommend Liteon brand burners as a start; personally I have here a Toshiba SD-1202 DVD Combo drive that burns with the correct EFM encoding, plus does RAW-DAO 96 write, and RAW+96 read. http://www.elby.ch/english/products/clone_cd/writers/t.html#toshiba This is the most desirable set of attributes; and of course to make the deal even sweeter it also plays/reads DVDs. It has a four sheep rating, and has never failed me (yet) when I've made backup copies of the toughest challenges. Diablo 2 was interesting. Morrowind was extremely interesting. --LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer/DMA
> > Or normally something along the lines or an input/output error. Is this > error caused because the data is not being read quick enough to pipe > throught to cdrecord? most likely. That cdrecord output you posted there was at 31% fifo fill... that's hardly a good level. And then: Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x09 (write error - loss of streaming) Fru 0x0 "Loss of streaming"... > Is this a DMA issue? I read some posts here before regarding turning on DMA just in case: hdparm -d1 /dev/devicename However i would not bet on DMA being the problem. As a rule of thumb, i NEVER do cd-to-cd copy on the fly. It is faster, yes, but what happens when dd if=/dev/cdrom gets stuck trying to read one sector from beneath a scratch in the middle of the burning session? At 16x speed, it's really not hard to get a buffer underrun... If you are absolutely in love with this method, try lower speeds and always make sure the original CD is in good condition. > with hdparm. Could this help? Probably, a bit. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer/DMA
> If they aren't DRM disks what fs was written to them? Are they VFAT > (Windows 32 bit format) or something else? If they're disks that were > recorded not pressed at a factory; who did it, what software was used to do > it, and can you actually *read the disks* when not trying to copy them? It's a variety. How can I copy protected cds. I noticve a thread earlier about cd clone on windows. It surely must be possible to copy "bit by bit" under linux? My drive is a Plextor 16/10/40A. > Since you can't write at those speeds at present anyway (can you copy the > disks at a lower speed?) you may as well try enabling DMA to see if it Yes I can. I can write at 16 if I am writing an ISO or something else. > makes a difference. If your drives actually support it. The worst that > could happen is probably a coaster. How can I enable that? Which drives the dvd rom and the cd writer? Thanks for you help, Jord -- Jordan Elver There's no 'I' in 'team'. But then there's no 'I' in 'useless smug colleague', either. And there's four in 'platitude-quoting idiot'. Go figure. -- David Brent (The Office) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer/DMA
On Monday 20 January 2003 10:02 am, Jordan Elver wrote: > Hi, > I'm currentlycopying cds on the fly with the following command: > > dd if=/dev/cdrom | cdrecord dev=0,2,0 speed= -v - > > The problem is that I can't actually use 12 or 16 speed recording, > depemding on the disk I am copying. I get a message from cdrecord saying: > > Track 01: 25 MB written (fifo 31%) [buf 12%] 12.4x.cdrecord: > Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error > CDB: 2A 00 00 00 32 60 00 00 1F 00 > status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) > Sense Bytes: F0 00 03 00 00 32 F8 0A 00 00 00 00 0C 09 00 00 > Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 > Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x09 (write error - loss of streaming) Fru 0x0 > Sense flags: Blk 13048 (valid) > cmd finished after 0.051s timeout 40s > > write track data: error after 26411008 bytes > Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > > Or normally something along the lines or an input/output error. Is this > error caused because the data is not being read quick enough to pipe > throught to cdrecord? > > Is this a DMA issue? I read some posts here before regarding turning on DMA > with hdparm. Could this help? > > Thanks for any help, > Jordan Are these write protected (DRM) disks? Games, music, etc., many of which have copy protection "built in." The error messages look familiar somehow. If they aren't DRM disks what fs was written to them? Are they VFAT (Windows 32 bit format) or something else? If they're disks that were recorded not pressed at a factory; who did it, what software was used to do it, and can you actually *read the disks* when not trying to copy them? Since you can't write at those speeds at present anyway (can you copy the disks at a lower speed?) you may as well try enabling DMA to see if it makes a difference. If your drives actually support it. The worst that could happen is probably a coaster. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org Honesty is for the most part less profitable than dishonesty. -- Plato Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CD Writer/DMA
Hi, I'm currentlycopying cds on the fly with the following command: dd if=/dev/cdrom | cdrecord dev=0,2,0 speed= -v - The problem is that I can't actually use 12 or 16 speed recording, depemding on the disk I am copying. I get a message from cdrecord saying: Track 01: 25 MB written (fifo 31%) [buf 12%] 12.4x.cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 2A 00 00 00 32 60 00 00 1F 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: F0 00 03 00 00 32 F8 0A 00 00 00 00 0C 09 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x09 (write error - loss of streaming) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 13048 (valid) cmd finished after 0.051s timeout 40s write track data: error after 26411008 bytes Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Or normally something along the lines or an input/output error. Is this error caused because the data is not being read quick enough to pipe throught to cdrecord? Is this a DMA issue? I read some posts here before regarding turning on DMA with hdparm. Could this help? Thanks for any help, Jordan -- Jordan Elver Remember the 3 golden rules: 1. It was like that when I got here. 2. I didn't do it. 3. (To your Boss) I like your style. -- David Brent (The Office) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer
I have an AOpen 16/10/32 and it is wonderful. Speed is fast. I wrote M8 to CD in about 4 minutes per CD from ISO. It's got all the JustLink and JustSpeed stuff so you don't ruin cd's. So far I've written 25 odd CD's and only had 1 coffee cup holder, and that was due to windows more than the writer. Everything works with it. Also I found that some of the new CD-RW's won't read or write in older CD Writers's read and write perfectly in this one. AOpen CD writers are actually Ricoh cd writers, AOpen simply rebrands them. Thats also why Ricoh is always a step ahead of AOpen ;) Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: "Niklas Herder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 4:51 PM Subject: [newbie] CD Writer > I'm thinking about buying a CD Writer, so I would really like some tips and > advice on which is the best price/performance/Linux - wise? > > Cheers > > /Niklas > > > -- -- > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CD Writer
I'm thinking about buying a CD Writer, so I would really like some tips and advice on which is the best price/performance/Linux - wise? Cheers /Niklas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CD writer
I have recently installed mandrake 8.0. Mostly everything is Ok, but I have one big problem. Although I can access my DVD drive, attempting to access my CD writer inariably crashes the system. Going into harddrake, there appears to be a problem of some sort - the device is listed as both a scsi and an ide interface (it is an ide drive). The drive model is Ricoh MP7083A-DP. I attempted to run the 'drives' tool in harddrake merely because it looked like it might help - however, nothing appeared to happen. As you have probably guessed, I am a complete beginner, and any help would be very welcome. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] CD Writer
Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 10:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] CD Writer xcdroast On Monday 03 September 2001 16:35, you wrote: > Hello everyone > Some one know of a robust application to write CDs R-RW? (I'm using > BlackBox-0.61.1 and Mandrake 8.0) > > Thanks > Lionel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer
Lionel Pitaru wrote: > Hello everyone > Some one know of a robust application to write CDs R-RW? (I'm using > BlackBox-0.61.1 and Mandrake 8.0) > > Thanks > Lionel > > > > Lionel, I've been using Gtoaster for all my CD burning and it works very nicely for all my CD burning needs. -- daRcmaTTeR =/\=??? |%C++ "Beware of little sins. Mosquitoes drink more blood than lions." Author unknown Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer
On Monday 03 September 2001 08:08 pm, Andre Dubuc wrote: > On Monday 03 September 2001 21:01, you wrote: > > xcdroast > > "gtoaster" is another excellent choice. It's easy to set up, intuitive, and > has excellent docs! > > Andre I prefer gcombust for isos and such. -s (Damn linux - so many choices, so little well, you know...) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer
On Monday 03 September 2001 21:01, you wrote: > xcdroast > > On Monday 03 September 2001 16:35, you wrote: > > Hello everyone > > Some one know of a robust application to write CDs R-RW? (I'm using > > BlackBox-0.61.1 and Mandrake 8.0) > > > > Thanks > > Lionel > "gtoaster" is another excellent choice. It's easy to set up, intuitive, and has excellent docs! Andre Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer
xcdroast On Monday 03 September 2001 16:35, you wrote: > Hello everyone > Some one know of a robust application to write CDs R-RW? (I'm using > BlackBox-0.61.1 and Mandrake 8.0) > > Thanks > Lionel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CD Writer
Hello everyone Some one know of a robust application to write CDs R-RW? (I'm using BlackBox-0.61.1 and Mandrake 8.0) Thanks Lionel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cd writer for linux
I also use a Plextor and it works fine. Jord On Tuesday 19 June 2001 16:59, you wrote: > It was Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:52:30 -0500 when Carlos Cifuentes wrote: > >I want to buy a cd writer for linux but i dont > >know what machine work in linux > > > >Can some person help me? > > Any decent CD-RW will work, IDE or SCSI. I use Plextor, which is great. > Paul > > -- > A day without light is like, eh... night! > > http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 >Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Sylpheed 0.4.99 > ** http://www.care2.com - when you care **
Re: [newbie] cd writer for linux
It was Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:52:30 -0500 when Carlos Cifuentes wrote: >I want to buy a cd writer for linux but i dont >know what machine work in linux > >Can some person help me? Any decent CD-RW will work, IDE or SCSI. I use Plextor, which is great. Paul -- A day without light is like, eh... night! http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Sylpheed 0.4.99 ** http://www.care2.com - when you care **
Re: [newbie] cd writer for linux
On Tuesday 19 June 2001 03:52 pm, Carlos Cifuentes wrote: > Hi. > > I want to buy a cd writer for linux but i dont > know what machine work in linux Almost all, a few better than others. CD burning with any OS is currently more of an art than a science, and like everything, Linux will do a better job if you spend the effort to thoroughly research the hardware and the applications for using the hardware. Many will say to go for a SCSI drive, but that's dated misinformation. As far as price and viability (any OS), it's very hard to beat a Plextor, IDE. Yamaha would also be a good choice. Caveats are don't buy a "re-badged" model drive (ie, sold by one company, but manufactured by another). I'd also add, don't be impressed by the latest and greatest. Much more often than not, a good'ol 8-4-32 drive is a better bet than the newer, faster ones. So what if it takes a minute or two longer to burn a CD (?) Also, media used is a large factor. For the most part, 'Ty-U' CD-R's are the best, manufactured under many different brand names (eg, TDK, Fuji Film, etc) As with any hardare, the overall quality of the system (eg, motherboard, chipset, processor, ram, power supply, cooling, etc.) will greatly affect the results. IOW's, don't expect good results on a ready made (eg, Dell, Gateway, Compaq, etc) that you would on a home or shop built system using better quality components. As to software, all burners use 'cdrecord' and 'mkisofs' for the most part. Altho I like to do most things on the command line, I like to use a front end GUI for burning. I favor 'KOnCD' and 'Gcombust' I've been burning CD's for years, and the only thing I can guarantee, is that Linux does a much better job than Windoze ;> -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] cd writer for linux
Hi! Just about all Linux distros have a web page. On their web pages they will either have a Hardware Compatibilty list or a link to one. I suggest you print out the section pertainingto what you want and shop from there. On Tuesday 19 June 2001 16:52, Carlos Cifuentes wrote: > Hi. > > I want to buy a cd writer for linux but i dont > know what machine work in linux > > Can some person help me? > > Thanks > > Carlos > > __ > E-mail y acceso a la Internet en http://www.Tutopia.com -- Jose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] CD Writer
Thanks for evryones help. In the end. I just updated my system using the install disk and it found it and configured it! I'm now burning away ;-) Thnks for evryones help, Jord On Friday 01 June 2001 19:56, you wrote: > Jordan, this is what worked for me. Edit /etc/modules.conf, and add the > line > > alias scsi_hostadapter1 ide-scsi > > This tells Mandrake that you have a SCSI adapter, which is in fact > implemented by the ide-scsi driver which makes IDE drives look like SCSI. > Then do 'cdrecord -scanbus' to see what SCSI devices it can find. I get: > > scsibus0: > 0,0,0 0) * > 0,1,0 1) * > 0,2,0 2) * > 0,3,0 3) * > 0,4,0 4) * > 0,5,0 5) * > 0,6,0 6) 'IOMEGA ' 'ZIP 100 ' 'D.09' Removable Disk > 0,7,0 7) * > scsibus1: > 1,0,0 100) 'ATAPI ' 'CD-R/RW 10X8X32 ' '8.JZ' Removable CD-ROM > 1,1,0 101) * > 1,2,0 102) * > 1,3,0 103) * > 1,4,0 104) * > 1,5,0 105) * > 1,6,0 106) * > 1,7,0 107) * > > which tells me it has found the drive. Remember the 1,0,0 stuff, that is > what the burner program needs. The burner program I use is gcombust. On the > Burn tab, there is a CD-Recorder device options section, which is where you > need to the get the 1,0,0 stuff in. Mine starts with Scsibus 0, Target 6, > Lun 0, because it thinks it is going to burn a CD on the Zip drive :-). If > I click the detect SCSI drive button, it changes to Scsibus 1, Target 0, > Lun 0. That means it's going to work. When you do a burn, don't forget to > uncheck the Dummy test run option, or you will be confused like I was :-). > > John > > On Saturday 02 June 2001 04:45, Jordan Elver wrote: > > I've just got a cd writer after all your wonderful advice last week ;-) > > I have it installed and working. But not as a cdwriter. it works as a > > cdrom and Mandrake found it, but what now. > > > > All the tutorials that I have found refer to using lilo and using > > modprobe etc, but I'm using grub, not lilo?! > > > > Any help or url's would be helpful ;-)
Re: [newbie] CD Writer
I did. From the install cds, but if the burner isn't working as a scsi device it won't work ;-) On Friday 01 June 2001 10:13, you wrote: > Hey, Try going to www.tucows.com and getting some Burner software. Install > it and see what happens. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jordan Elver [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:45 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:[newbie] CD Writer > > > > Hello, > > I've just got a cd writer after all your wonderful advice last week ;-) > > I have it installed and working. But not as a cdwriter. it works as a > > cdrom and Mandrake found it, but what now. > > > > All the tutorials that I have found refer to using lilo and using > > modprobe etc, but I'm using grub, not lilo?! > > > > Any help or url's would be helpful ;-) > > > > TIA, > > > > Jord
[newbie] CD Writer
Hello, I've just got a cd writer after all your wonderful advice last week ;-) I have it installed and working. But not as a cdwriter. it works as a cdrom and Mandrake found it, but what now. All the tutorials that I have found refer to using lilo and using modprobe etc, but I'm using grub, not lilo?! Any help or url's would be helpful ;-) TIA, Jord
Re: [newbie] CD Writer
Alright I hesitated jumping in here with all the plextor people, but wth. I have a samsung SW-212 12-8-32 and it worked in Mandrake out of the box. I don't think I even had to fix the links. It burns good and also haven't made a coaster yet. I've only used it at 8x tho. I paid like $110 for it, but I see it around at places/sites for $100. It came with some windows software, but I don't know what. It has an 8 mg buffer. -s On Wednesday 23 May 2001 12:58 pm, you wrote: > I have a HP usb burner which definatly works in IDE mode, (ie if you take > it out of the usb case and put it in your linux box) and apparently it > works via usb as well, (found a site on linux and usb and it said it was a > working Burner.) > > I have found the HP to be an exceptional burner.. good quality and don't > think I have ever made a coaster with this one... > > > regards > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd Flinders > Sent: Thursday, 24 May 2001 1:21 AM > To: Paul; newbie > Subject: Re: [newbie] CD Writer > > > Um...what? Unless Yamaha has a brand spanking new > burner, it is NOT an OEM of a plextor. Yamaha does > not have burn proof technology like the Plextor does. > And it's latest model is reported to be unstable. > > Also most of the Yamaha drivers are not supported by > the CloneCD software while Plextor is. > > I strongly believe they are two very different drives. > > Incidentally, I own a Yamaha and I do not recommend > it. It's certainly not the worst drive on the market, > but you can get much better for about the same price. > > Plextor or TDK is the way to go. Plextor is probably > the safest for Linux. I haven't heard anything from > anyone using a TDK in Linux. > > --- Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It was Tue, 22 May 2001 15:21:23 -0700 (PDT) when > > > > Todd Flinders wrote: > > >Plextor and TDK's are rated as the best in the > > >Windows' world. I haven't personally tested them > > > > in > > > > >Linux, but when this was discussed before, someone > > >said they were successfully using a Plextor. > > > > In a linux hardware newsgroup I heard good things > > about Plextor. You can also > > try a Yamaha, which is OEM of the Plextor, but I was > > told to better go for the > > Plextor since it is most reliable. Also a bit more > > expensive though. > > > > Paul > > > > -- > > Bowie's Theorem: > > If an experiment works, you must be using the wrong > > equipment. > > > > http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 > >Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Sylpheed 0.4.66 > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
RE: [newbie] CD Writer
I have a HP usb burner which definatly works in IDE mode, (ie if you take it out of the usb case and put it in your linux box) and apparently it works via usb as well, (found a site on linux and usb and it said it was a working Burner.) I have found the HP to be an exceptional burner.. good quality and don't think I have ever made a coaster with this one... regards Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd Flinders Sent: Thursday, 24 May 2001 1:21 AM To: Paul; newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] CD Writer Um...what? Unless Yamaha has a brand spanking new burner, it is NOT an OEM of a plextor. Yamaha does not have burn proof technology like the Plextor does. And it's latest model is reported to be unstable. Also most of the Yamaha drivers are not supported by the CloneCD software while Plextor is. I strongly believe they are two very different drives. Incidentally, I own a Yamaha and I do not recommend it. It's certainly not the worst drive on the market, but you can get much better for about the same price. Plextor or TDK is the way to go. Plextor is probably the safest for Linux. I haven't heard anything from anyone using a TDK in Linux. --- Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It was Tue, 22 May 2001 15:21:23 -0700 (PDT) when > Todd Flinders wrote: > > >Plextor and TDK's are rated as the best in the > >Windows' world. I haven't personally tested them > in > >Linux, but when this was discussed before, someone > >said they were successfully using a Plextor. > > In a linux hardware newsgroup I heard good things > about Plextor. You can also > try a Yamaha, which is OEM of the Plextor, but I was > told to better go for the > Plextor since it is most reliable. Also a bit more > expensive though. > > Paul > > -- > Bowie's Theorem: > If an experiment works, you must be using the wrong > equipment. > > http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 >Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Sylpheed 0.4.66 > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] CD Writer
I have the Yamaha (internal SCSI version), and am very happy with it. It's been solid, and reliable since I installed it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >I have Matshita CDRW 7585, works good, no problems so far. > > I have a Creative Labs 4224E. Old and slow but it works. I would recomend > > you to check the supported hardware list on LM web page. > > > > TezcatlipocA > > > > On Monday 21 May 2001 12:34, you wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I am going to buy a cd writer soonand I was just wondering if anyone has > > > any suggestions or good experiences to share? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Jord > > > > -- __ Ric Tibbetts Boeing Shared Services Group UNIX System Administration Seattle Server Operations __
Re: [newbie] CD Writer
Um...what? Unless Yamaha has a brand spanking new burner, it is NOT an OEM of a plextor. Yamaha does not have burn proof technology like the Plextor does. And it's latest model is reported to be unstable. Also most of the Yamaha drivers are not supported by the CloneCD software while Plextor is. I strongly believe they are two very different drives. Incidentally, I own a Yamaha and I do not recommend it. It's certainly not the worst drive on the market, but you can get much better for about the same price. Plextor or TDK is the way to go. Plextor is probably the safest for Linux. I haven't heard anything from anyone using a TDK in Linux. --- Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It was Tue, 22 May 2001 15:21:23 -0700 (PDT) when > Todd Flinders wrote: > > >Plextor and TDK's are rated as the best in the > >Windows' world. I haven't personally tested them > in > >Linux, but when this was discussed before, someone > >said they were successfully using a Plextor. > > In a linux hardware newsgroup I heard good things > about Plextor. You can also > try a Yamaha, which is OEM of the Plextor, but I was > told to better go for the > Plextor since it is most reliable. Also a bit more > expensive though. > > Paul > > -- > Bowie's Theorem: > If an experiment works, you must be using the wrong > equipment. > > http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 >Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Sylpheed 0.4.66 > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] CD Writer
It was Tue, 22 May 2001 15:21:23 -0700 (PDT) when Todd Flinders wrote: >Plextor and TDK's are rated as the best in the >Windows' world. I haven't personally tested them in >Linux, but when this was discussed before, someone >said they were successfully using a Plextor. In a linux hardware newsgroup I heard good things about Plextor. You can also try a Yamaha, which is OEM of the Plextor, but I was told to better go for the Plextor since it is most reliable. Also a bit more expensive though. Paul -- Bowie's Theorem: If an experiment works, you must be using the wrong equipment. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Sylpheed 0.4.66
Re: [newbie] CD Writer
>I have Matshita CDRW 7585, works good, no problems so far. I have a Creative Labs 4224E. Old and slow but it works. I would recomend > you to check the supported hardware list on LM web page. > > TezcatlipocA > > On Monday 21 May 2001 12:34, you wrote: > > Hi, > > I am going to buy a cd writer soonand I was just wondering if anyone has > > any suggestions or good experiences to share? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jord > >
Re: [newbie] CD Writer
Plextor and TDK's are rated as the best in the Windows' world. I haven't personally tested them in Linux, but when this was discussed before, someone said they were successfully using a Plextor. --- TezcatlipocA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a Creative Labs 4224E. Old and slow but it > works. I would recomend > you to check the supported hardware list on LM web > page. > > TezcatlipocA > > On Monday 21 May 2001 12:34, you wrote: > > Hi, > > I am going to buy a cd writer soonand I was just > wondering if anyone has > > any suggestions or good experiences to share? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jord > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
[newbie] CD Writer
Hi, I am going to buy a cd writer soonand I was just wondering if anyone has any suggestions or good experiences to share? Thanks, Jord -- Jordan Elver while (!asleep()) sheep++;
Re: [newbie] cd writer quit working after re-install
I know they fixed it just after I wrote the message to youI am happily (very very) accessing my cdrom/burner now too. Took me over a month to get that fix...sheesh glad I could be of help on a very frusterating problem Jim - Original Message - From: "Roland Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] cd writer quit working after re-install Jim, I went to the link you gave me even though you said it was broken. Guess what? It works now. I followed the instructions given there and now I can access cd's on my cd writer via the desktop link. Many thanks for the info! Roland On Sun, 18 Jun 2000, you wrote: > there is a fix located at > http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Tutorial/CDburner/pages/ but right > now the link is brokenI am having the same problem and have been for a > month > > Jim > > - Original Message - > From: "Roland Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 11:48 AM > Subject: [newbie] cd writer quit working after re-install > > > After my first install and subsequent re-installs of mandrake 7.0 my cd > writer > was able to read data cd's like the dvd drive. Now all of a sudden after a > re-install it deosn't work. I just get an error msg saying "could not list > directory contents file:/mnt/cdrom2". I see the device /dev/hdd listed > during > boot and if I go to control panel - scsi, it shows the scsi host channel and > lists my cd writer. If I bring up xcdroast it is listed in setup as my read > and write drive. ( Ihaven't tried to burn a cd however) It is also listed > in > ftab and mstab. But it WON'T READ THE CD'S I PUT IN IT! What kind of a > deal > is this. Oh, I checked, the drive still works under win98se. > > Roland
Re: [newbie] cd writer quit working after re-install
there is a fix located at http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Tutorial/CDburner/pages/ but right now the link is brokenI am having the same problem and have been for a month Jim - Original Message - From: "Roland Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 11:48 AM Subject: [newbie] cd writer quit working after re-install After my first install and subsequent re-installs of mandrake 7.0 my cd writer was able to read data cd's like the dvd drive. Now all of a sudden after a re-install it deosn't work. I just get an error msg saying "could not list directory contents file:/mnt/cdrom2". I see the device /dev/hdd listed during boot and if I go to control panel - scsi, it shows the scsi host channel and lists my cd writer. If I bring up xcdroast it is listed in setup as my read and write drive. ( Ihaven't tried to burn a cd however) It is also listed in ftab and mstab. But it WON'T READ THE CD'S I PUT IN IT! What kind of a deal is this. Oh, I checked, the drive still works under win98se. Roland
[newbie] cd writer quit working after re-install
After my first install and subsequent re-installs of mandrake 7.0 my cd writer was able to read data cd's like the dvd drive. Now all of a sudden after a re-install it deosn't work. I just get an error msg saying "could not list directory contents file:/mnt/cdrom2". I see the device /dev/hdd listed during boot and if I go to control panel - scsi, it shows the scsi host channel and lists my cd writer. If I bring up xcdroast it is listed in setup as my read and write drive. ( Ihaven't tried to burn a cd however) It is also listed in ftab and mstab. But it WON'T READ THE CD'S I PUT IN IT! What kind of a deal is this. Oh, I checked, the drive still works under win98se. Roland
Re: [newbie] CD writer and scsi emulating; how to access scsi
On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Wienand Drenth wrote: Hi Wienand, I don;t know how you did things, but at www.linux-mandrake.com somewhere, in the demo of Mandrake 7.1, there is a nice set of animated pages on setting up a ide-scsi cdrom, and how to create a shortcut to it that works. Paul >Hello, >Yesterday I finally got to burning CD's under Linux (HP 9110i >(8x4x32x)). >did this as described in http://www.guug.de/~winni/linux/cdr/html/ with >gcombust to burn it. >Basic idea is that SCSI drivers are emulated (I guess). > >Problems: once I emulated SCSI, I cannot access my cd writer as before >(normally same as for cd-rom, i.e. "cd /mnt/cdrom"). How can I still >access/mount cd writer after it has been scsi'd? >Furthermore, my zip-drive, after emulating SCSI, cannot be accessed >either (normally I mount if via "mount /mnt/iomega") since it has also >become SCSI-like. How can I still use my zip-drive after emulating SCSI? > >tia >Wienand > > -- Flowers grow where there is space. So do people. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] CD Writer: Which one?
wow, Denis...it's about time...you got this fixed I just posted this, about 10 minutes ago KompuKit wrote: > > Hi, I need to know the same for: HP 8250i CD-Writer > > Paul Marriott wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > > I've got to the stage where I'm going to buy myself a CD writer and Ive > > narrowed the choice down > > to 4 or 5(ish) possibilities due to local availability/price etc, > > namely: > > HP CD writer Plus 9310i, > > HP CD writer Plus 9110i, > > Creative Blaster CD Studio, > > Plextor PlexWriter SCSI, > > Acer 8432 (8MB buffer?) > > > > My question is basically twofold, 1) has anyone got any of these CD > > writers working Ok on MDK7 > > on an HP Pavilion 6425 (AMD K2 500 +64 RAM) or alternatively, 2) has > > anyone had problems > > with these writers? > > I suppose that there shouldn't be too much of a problem with the HP > > writers, but... > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Paul > > -- >Registered Linux User:73821 > <===KompuKit===> > Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. > Web Designer http://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com > WebServer:http://kompukit.dyndns.org > (Server Runs between M-F 6pm-12am,S+S 12pm-12am EST) > <===KompuKit===> -- Registered Linux User:73821 <===KompuKit===> Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designer http://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer:http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M-F 6pm-12am,S+S 12pm-12am EST) <===KompuKit===>
Re: [newbie] CD Writer: Which one?
Hi, I need to know the same for: HP 8250i CD-Writer Paul Marriott wrote: > > Hi folks, > I've got to the stage where I'm going to buy myself a CD writer and Ive > narrowed the choice down > to 4 or 5(ish) possibilities due to local availability/price etc, > namely: > HP CD writer Plus 9310i, > HP CD writer Plus 9110i, > Creative Blaster CD Studio, > Plextor PlexWriter SCSI, > Acer 8432 (8MB buffer?) > > My question is basically twofold, 1) has anyone got any of these CD > writers working Ok on MDK7 > on an HP Pavilion 6425 (AMD K2 500 +64 RAM) or alternatively, 2) has > anyone had problems > with these writers? > I suppose that there shouldn't be too much of a problem with the HP > writers, but... > > Thanks in advance > > Paul -- Registered Linux User:73821 <===KompuKit===> Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designer http://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer:http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M-F 6pm-12am,S+S 12pm-12am EST) <===KompuKit===>
Re: [newbie] CD Writer: Which one?
Paul Marriott wrote: > Hi folks, > I've got to the stage where I'm going to buy myself a CD writer and Ive > narrowed the choice down > to 4 or 5(ish) possibilities due to local availability/price etc, > namely: > HP CD writer Plus 9310i, > HP CD writer Plus 9110i, > Creative Blaster CD Studio, > Plextor PlexWriter SCSI, > Acer 8432 (8MB buffer?) > Look at the Yahama SCSI Burners too... MarkP
Re: [newbie] CD Writer: Which one?
I have a HP 9200i (SCSI 8x/4x/32x; it's basically the SCSI twin of the 9100i) drive, and I've had no problems with it and Linux. Well, let me take that back. For some reason I can't burn .exe's while in Linux. It might be the burning software (gcombust) or it may be something else. But all the .exe's I've burned in Linux come up as "invalid applications" in Windows. However it burns .exe's just fine in Windows; so it's probally not the drive. > Hi folks, > I've got to the stage where I'm going to buy myself a CD writer and Ive > narrowed the choice down > to 4 or 5(ish) possibilities due to local availability/price etc, > namely: > HP CD writer Plus 9310i, > HP CD writer Plus 9110i, > Creative Blaster CD Studio, > Plextor PlexWriter SCSI, > Acer 8432 (8MB buffer?) > > My question is basically twofold, 1) has anyone got any of these CD > writers working Ok on MDK7 > on an HP Pavilion 6425 (AMD K2 500 +64 RAM) or alternatively, 2) has > anyone had problems > with these writers? > I suppose that there shouldn't be too much of a problem with the HP > writers, but... > > Thanks in advance > > Paul -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] CD Writer: Which one?
Paul.before you make a final decision visit this web site: http://www.smartandfriendly.com/ I bought a former 'special of the month', the cdr-4012 and it works just fine, both in win98 with the supplied software and in Linux Mandrake 7.0 using the x-cd-roast software (works in KDE) that came with Linux Mandrake 7.0. My cdr-4012 came with an included adaptec 1505 scsi card (not directly supported in Linux), but since I already had scsi peripherals on my system I just plugged the CD-R into my current scsi bus and away I went. They also have ide's, check out their 'outlet store' page (my cdr-4012 is still available in there for $99). Their prices include shipping and they ship immediately. Alan Paul Marriott wrote: > > Hi folks, > I've got to the stage where I'm going to buy myself a CD writer and Ive > narrowed the choice down > to 4 or 5(ish) possibilities due to local availability/price etc, > namely: > HP CD writer Plus 9310i, > HP CD writer Plus 9110i, > Creative Blaster CD Studio, > Plextor PlexWriter SCSI, > Acer 8432 (8MB buffer?) > > My question is basically twofold, 1) has anyone got any of these CD > writers working Ok on MDK7 > on an HP Pavilion 6425 (AMD K2 500 +64 RAM) or alternatively, 2) has > anyone had problems > with these writers? > I suppose that there shouldn't be too much of a problem with the HP > writers, but... > > Thanks in advance > > Paul
Re: [newbie] CD Writer: Which one?
On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Paul Marriott wrote: >Creative Blaster CD Studio, >Plextor PlexWriter SCSI, >Acer 8432 (8MB buffer?) Hi Paul, No matter what HP has and does, I would always go with a SCSI writer. But then, I am SCSI minded. Paul -- Enthusiasm and optimism are the legs of life )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] CD Writer
On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, you wrote: > Does anyone know how to setup a CD Writer so it can be mounted on my linux > machine? I'm using Linux Mandrake. > > David You may want to consider X-CD Roast for your CD burning. You can get information on it at: http://www.fh-muenchen.de/rz/xcdroast It came with my Mandrake 6.1 distribution. X-CD-Roast uses a command line program "cdrecord". The home page for cdrecord has all the information you may need to set up your cdrw. It can be found at: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdrecord.html The information for ide/atapi drives are at: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/man/README/README.ATAPI There was also a discussion regarding this on the KDE mail list. Check the following: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-user&m=93763821123825&w=2 Also, a few weeks ago someone posted the following link for a good place to get info: http://www.midkan.com/paulb/mycdr.htm
Re: [newbie] CD Writer
If you simply want to mount the drive to view the contents of a CD, you don't even need to append anything to your lilo.conf file. However, if you want to write to the drive, you will need to add the append statement to your lilo.conf file that John mentioned. If you simply want to mount and view the CD that's in your CD-RW drive: 1) first type "dmesg" to see which device it's using (I'll assume hdb) 2) "cd /mnt" 3) "mkdir cdrw" (this creates a directory called /mnt/cdrw) 4) "mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrw" 5) Now view the contents of the /mnt/cdrw directory and you should see the contents of the CD that's in your CD-RW drive. HTH, Matt >From: John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [newbie] CD Writer >Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 10:37:14 -0500 > >On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, you wrote: > > Does anyone know how to setup a CD Writer so it can be mounted on my >linux > > machine? I'm using Linux Mandrake. > > >IDE? If so, try the following in your /etc/lilo.conf: >append="hd(x)=ide-scsi" >and replace (x) with the letter of your ATAPI CDR (i.e. hda >for primary master, hdb for primary slave, hdc for >secondary master and hdd for secondary slave.) > John __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer
On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, you wrote: > Does anyone know how to setup a CD Writer so it can be mounted on my linux > machine? I'm using Linux Mandrake. > IDE? If so, try the following in your /etc/lilo.conf: append="hd(x)=ide-scsi" and replace (x) with the letter of your ATAPI CDR (i.e. hda for primary master, hdb for primary slave, hdc for secondary master and hdd for secondary slave.) John
[newbie] CD Writer
Does anyone know how to setup a CD Writer so it can be mounted on my linuxmachine? I'm using Linux Mandrake. David
[newbie] CD Writer
Does anyone know how to setup a CD Writer so it can be mounted on my linux machine? I'm using Linux Mandrake. David
