Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
On Wednesday 10 September 2003 02:39, Bryan Phinney wrote: You probably should be able to find a package out and about on the net, not that I am suggesting that you violate any licenses or anything. ;-} Used PowerDVD, it came free with the Guillemot 3DProphet cardit's not too bad. Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 15:19:36 -0600 Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 06:54:00 +0100 Len Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Its a joke on a band called Tears for Fears that I dearly love. I'm corrupting their band name. shrugs. And I'm queer. So why not? Thx. Femminux And the rest of us are very odd! Len Lawrence heh Len. I'm just having fun. I try not to offend... but if I do well..shrugs not much I can do is there? Sides just signing your nick is BORRIING! Flowers for Femme Hi Heather. Who's offended? I just meant that you are in good company - we Linuxers are all out on the edge of the bell curve. We look forward to your transmissions. -- Len Boringoldfart Lawrence -- program, n.: A magic spell cast over a computer allowing it to turn one's input into error messages. tr.v. To engage in a pastime similar to banging one's head against a wall, but with fewer opportunities for reward. -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:29:13 +0100 Len Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip heh Len. I'm just having fun. I try not to offend... but if I do well..shrugs not much I can do is there? Sides just signing your nick is BORRIING! Flowers for Femme Hi Heather. Who's offended? I just meant that you are in good company - we Linuxers are all out on the edge of the bell curve. We look forward to your transmissions. -- Len Boringoldfart Lawrence Just CYAing. (Covering My Ass). ;p *will let this OT thread die now if no one objects or needs further transmissions on the subject* Femme-Uhuru Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
On Wednesday 10 Sep 2003 7:07 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Wednesday 10 September 2003 02:39, Bryan Phinney wrote: You probably should be able to find a package out and about on the net, not that I am suggesting that you violate any licenses or anything. ;-} Used PowerDVD, it came free with the Guillemot 3DProphet cardit's not too bad. Apps that came with the drive are often doctored to only work with that drive. If you change your hardware it may not still work - I have experienced this. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
Have you thought about upgrading the dreaded firmware? Mike H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 09 September 2003 19:50, Michael Lothian wrote: OK start xine from the CLI and then when you press the dvd button have a look at the error message brings up Oh and just to check you have all the dvdread dvdnax and css stuff don't you? Mike The only way to get proper error messages IS the CLI. It reads like I stated with the crux: decss can't open MRL on dvd: Can't mount the the damn thing either with mount /mnt/cdrom. Yup, all the stuf is installed. I can read most of my encrypted cd's like the Matrix, Lord of the rings, Final Fantasie,Jackie Chan et all...just not these 3 (2 of those I bought a few days ago and the 3rd one could indeed be broken). Disturbing is that I could and have looked at those 2 new ones and now cannot. Guhhh! Like I said: driving me nuts..after flushing my head through the toilet on the expert list I've now started biting the dog (the cat got away). BTW I noticed a kernel (2.4.22-1mdk) message about udf: iso9660 not being supported, so I got rid of that(the udf: part). Now I can eject my cdrom again using eject cdrom..some progress after all:o) Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 01:13, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: So did I, and xept for the dvdcss it works quiet well IMO. Actually you (or me) can't blame supermount, it's the link in /etc/fstab that libdvdcss looks for (where else should it look?) to /dev/dvd that causes the problem. At least that's the way I reckon. In the meantime I just installed mplayer, xine and ogleduh!! I have to add: I enabled supermount again and now those DVD's run fine:o) Apparently they (and then only some, so there goes my previous reckoning down the drain) are only bothered the first time at decryption. Once they've been added in .dvdcss/ there's no hitch anymore. so maybe at last I'll be able to leave supermount onit's been a long road. Good luck, Harm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Monday 08 September 2003 23:07, Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 8, 2003 02:28 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Hello all, As I've done a new install (9.2rc1) I also had to reinstall xine (and thus decss) The problem is I can read most of my (encrypted) older dvd's but some of the latest ones will not load. Whatsup? Have they found a new way of encrypting dvd's? Or did I miss something? Anybody any idea's. TIA, HarM Did you add plf in as a source? There are the same magic decoders as always. Maybe some you haven't installed yet? I'd try it first anyway. Regards; Charlie Yup, got the plf as main and contribs too.using cooker rpms. Point is I can read last years DVD's like Lord of the rings et all but not my latest buys. Somehow they don't want to be read. One of them is double DVD with a TV serie (Sandokan) on one and the resulting movie on the other. Tv-serie runs fine, movie wil not. Thanks, HarM I'm guessing here, but it sounds as though whatever programme you are using to play the dvd's is reading the wrong tack maybe ? If you are using mplayer for instance you can call the app. with either , gmplayer -dvd 12,3,4,etc if it's the old version you have, or, gmplayer dvd://12,3,4,etc if it's a newer version. They really don't have international standards as far as track layouts are concerned and sometimes it is just a question of rumaging around to find the right track number. At least eliminate that first. If that is not the case I would suspect, since you are able to play some dvd's and not others that it is not a libavcodec problem, to supply dcss encription. If so then I would start to suspect the regional setting of your dvd. Care is needed as you can only change it 5 times, or so I'm told, and to avoid that plf have their regional decrypt thing , which does not seem to work with my CVS version of mplayer, but may well work with yours if you have the standard M9.1 install with updates from plf. I probably need to compile my CVS version with some unknown flag to make it addopt the regional decrypt package, I donn't know.Any suggestions ? You mention a double dvd , it shouldn't make any difference, provided you have dcss encryption installed.I have many such dvd's and they both play , though the actual film is often the only one encrypted. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
On Monday 08 Sep 2003 11:16 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 09 September 2003 00:04, Charlie M. wrote: I honestly don't know if it'll do anything and since I don't have a DVD-ROM in this box I'm at the end of any suggestions that may help; sorry. Best of luck Harm! Charlie Found it! It was supermount getting in the way, dvdcss can't read frome none mounted at .Etc. I disabled it, using supermount -i disable.didn't work:o( Grabbing at any straw I rebooted (this is linux!) and hey..dvdcss works:o) Thanks for the handholding Charlielooking at the movie now. It's Italian, thankfully it's got Dutch undertitels. Glad you got it going, but I really don't understand this. My dvd drive is my main reader, and it's set to supermount. I don't have any trouble reading Warner Bros. films on it with xine, which I couldn't do before installed dvdcss. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 13:13, Anne Wilson wrote: Glad you got it going, but I really don't understand this. My dvd drive is my main reader, and it's set to supermount. I don't have any trouble reading Warner Bros. films on it with xine, which I couldn't do before installed dvdcss. Anne It just a few that will not, from any specific manufacturor either. They're all different. You're not going to believe this, I certainly don't want to! This morning I rebooted the machine, checked the xine...sure enough still worked, the films loaded. Reading the mails I thought I'd check one of my older DVD's that wouldn't load (Talking Heads: Stop Making Sense, how apropiate): Well it wouldn't. Disabled supermount, tried again: It wouldn't. rebooted: Still wouldn't. Stuck in the ones that did work: They wouldn't!! Rebooted thrice (supermounted enabled and disabled) and I'm still back at square one i.e. still can't read 'em.snarling at the dog and the cat now. This is driving me round the bend:o( I can hear the drive try to spin up, xine (or any of the others) can't seem to read the MRL list. Gr, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 11:18, John Richard Smith wrote: John It all gets worse: I installed this other OS (you know the evil one) just to check. This is really getting tainted:o( Same damn problem. The same DVD's aren't recognizedthey just don't exist i.e. will not load. So either my DVD drive is going down the drain or 'm looking at some new kind of encryption (like the one's on some music CD's) that prevent them from running on PC's (nothing mentionned on the sleeves though). Strange though that I could and have read them for a short while (one up on linux).so the drive is getting more obvious. Just my luck: PC isn't M$ free anymore, can't read my new DVD's, hosed my good old /home partition (that was another thread), grounded...and now I don't trust my DVD drive anymore. On the other hand: 9.2 (rc1 install being kept uptodate with cooker) is running glitchless. Well.didn't get to make a proper bootfloppy using MCC. I had to do an upgrade to get the lilo up and running again. Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
OK start xine from the CLI and then when you press the dvd button have a look at the error message brings up Oh and just to check you have all the dvdread dvdnax and css stuff don't you? Mike H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 09 September 2003 13:13, Anne Wilson wrote: Glad you got it going, but I really don't understand this. My dvd drive is my main reader, and it's set to supermount. I don't have any trouble reading Warner Bros. films on it with xine, which I couldn't do before installed dvdcss. Anne It just a few that will not, from any specific manufacturor either. They're all different. You're not going to believe this, I certainly don't want to! This morning I rebooted the machine, checked the xine...sure enough still worked, the films loaded. Reading the mails I thought I'd check one of my older DVD's that wouldn't load (Talking Heads: Stop Making Sense, how apropiate): Well it wouldn't. Disabled supermount, tried again: It wouldn't. rebooted: Still wouldn't. Stuck in the ones that did work: They wouldn't!! Rebooted thrice (supermounted enabled and disabled) and I'm still back at square one i.e. still can't read 'em.snarling at the dog and the cat now. This is driving me round the bend:o( I can hear the drive try to spin up, xine (or any of the others) can't seem to read the MRL list. Gr, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 19:50, Michael Lothian wrote: OK start xine from the CLI and then when you press the dvd button have a look at the error message brings up Oh and just to check you have all the dvdread dvdnax and css stuff don't you? Mike The only way to get proper error messages IS the CLI. It reads like I stated with the crux: decss can't open MRL on dvd: Can't mount the the damn thing either with mount /mnt/cdrom. Yup, all the stuf is installed. I can read most of my encrypted cd's like the Matrix, Lord of the rings, Final Fantasie,Jackie Chan et all...just not these 3 (2 of those I bought a few days ago and the 3rd one could indeed be broken). Disturbing is that I could and have looked at those 2 new ones and now cannot. Guhhh! Like I said: driving me nuts..after flushing my head through the toilet on the expert list I've now started biting the dog (the cat got away). BTW I noticed a kernel (2.4.22-1mdk) message about udf: iso9660 not being supported, so I got rid of that(the udf: part). Now I can eject my cdrom again using eject cdrom..some progress after all:o) Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 06:54:00 +0100 Len Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Its a joke on a band called Tears for Fears that I dearly love. I'm corrupting their band name. shrugs. And I'm queer. So why not? Thx. Femminux And the rest of us are very odd! -- Len Lawrence heh Len. I'm just having fun. I try not to offend... but if I do well..shrugs not much I can do is there? Sides just signing your nick is BORRIING! Flowers for Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
Femme; Do you mean something like John Cougar MellonHead, or The Pinheads? Pelvis Arsely perhaps? Um, Just looking for clarification here ( Tee Hee ). Personally, I thought Tears for Queers was pretty funny. Take care of U. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 9/9/2003 at 3:19 PM Heather/Femme wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 06:54:00 +0100 Len Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Its a joke on a band called Tears for Fears that I dearly love. I'm corrupting their band name. shrugs. And I'm queer. So why not? Thx. Femminux And the rest of us are very odd! -- Len Lawrence heh Len. I'm just having fun. I try not to offend... but if I do well..shrugs not much I can do is there? Sides just signing your nick is BORRIING! Flowers for Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 04:12 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 09 September 2003 11:18, John Richard Smith wrote: John It all gets worse: I installed this other OS (you know the evil one) just to check. This is really getting tainted:o( Same damn problem. The same DVD's aren't recognizedthey just don't exist i.e. will not load. Keep in mind, DVD viewing is NOT free or open source with the evil OS, you have to have a commercial viewer, either one that came with the drive or a 3rd party one. CSS is proprietary and the open source versions available for Linux are illegal to use in the US. On the evil OS, you need a DVD viewing program that supports decrypting CSS for almost all DVD's. You probably should be able to find a package out and about on the net, not that I am suggesting that you violate any licenses or anything. ;-} -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] DVD encryption
Hello all, As I've done a new install (9.2rc1) I also had to reinstall xine (and thus decss) The problem is I can read most of my (encrypted) older dvd's but some of the latest ones will not load. Whatsup? Have they found a new way of encrypting dvd's? Or did I miss something? Anybody any idea's. TIA, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 8, 2003 02:28 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Hello all, As I've done a new install (9.2rc1) I also had to reinstall xine (and thus decss) The problem is I can read most of my (encrypted) older dvd's but some of the latest ones will not load. Whatsup? Have they found a new way of encrypting dvd's? Or did I miss something? Anybody any idea's. TIA, HarM Did you add plf in as a source? There are the same magic decoders as always. Maybe some you haven't installed yet? I'd try it first anyway. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-6mdk 15:04:55 up 16:34, 1 user, load average: 0.23, 0.24, 0.24 Why not go out on a limb? Isn't that where the fruit is? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/XO91G11CaRuZZSIRAi05AJ0eLmVF2sBYbeOHhwc7ReyV4j4H7ACgjXhy ItdepbcULNq6CzR9Wt4U+T4= =YY1W -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
On Monday 08 September 2003 23:07, Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 8, 2003 02:28 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Hello all, As I've done a new install (9.2rc1) I also had to reinstall xine (and thus decss) The problem is I can read most of my (encrypted) older dvd's but some of the latest ones will not load. Whatsup? Have they found a new way of encrypting dvd's? Or did I miss something? Anybody any idea's. TIA, HarM Did you add plf in as a source? There are the same magic decoders as always. Maybe some you haven't installed yet? I'd try it first anyway. Regards; Charlie Yup, got the plf as main and contribs too.using cooker rpms. Point is I can read last years DVD's like Lord of the rings et all but not my latest buys. Somehow they don't want to be read. One of them is double DVD with a TV serie (Sandokan) on one and the resulting movie on the other. Tv-serie runs fine, movie wil not. Thanks, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 8, 2003 03:35 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: whack Did you add plf in as a source? There are the same magic decoders as always. Maybe some you haven't installed yet? I'd try it first anyway. Regards; Charlie Yup, got the plf as main and contribs too.using cooker rpms. Point is I can read last years DVD's like Lord of the rings et all but not my latest buys. Somehow they don't want to be read. One of them is double DVD with a TV serie (Sandokan) on one and the resulting movie on the other. Tv-serie runs fine, movie wil not. Thanks, HarM Hmm...that _is weird._ Have you installed the divx4linux from plf? ftp://ftp.easynet.fr/plf/cooker/i586/divx4linux-20020418-3plf.i586.rpm I honestly don't know if it'll do anything and since I don't have a DVD-ROM in this box I'm at the end of any suggestions that may help; sorry. Best of luck Harm! Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-6mdk 15:50:22 up 17:19, 1 user, load average: 0.14, 0.25, 0.27 Cursor, n.: One whose program will not run. -- Robb Russon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/XPzxG11CaRuZZSIRAlc7AJ9iWiG3U03U1FbtozWE1D1eE3v95gCfaCr4 55ClI4vi6GjFtLHCHGHVk7k= =NaKR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
Once the divx codecs are installed you should be able to play them with any player ie xine or mplayer You may also want to ownload the win32 codecs too What's with the Queers For Fears stuff? Mike Heather/Femme wrote: On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 16:04:32 -0600 Charlie M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: smuck Hmm...that _is weird._ Have you installed the divx4linux from plf? ftp://ftp.easynet.fr/plf/cooker/i586/divx4linux-20020418-3plf.i586.rpm I honestly don't know if it'll do anything and since I don't have a DVD-ROM in this box I'm at the end of any suggestions that may help; sorry. Best of luck Harm! Charlie - -- K for stupidity giggles, I loaded this thing. Now how the fuck do I use it? I have DIVX stuff I wanna play. Or Do I need my proper ATI drivers loaded too??? .. help? :D Queers For Fears Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 01:01:32 +0100 Michael Lothian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once the divx codecs are installed you should be able to play them with any player ie xine or mplayer You may also want to ownload the win32 codecs too What's with the Queers For Fears stuff? Mike snip Its a joke on a band called Tears for Fears that I dearly love. I'm corrupting their band name. shrugs. And I'm queer. So why not? Thx. Femminux Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
Its a joke on a band called Tears for Fears that I dearly love. I'm corrupting their band name. shrugs. And I'm queer. So why not? The word and? springs to mind Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD encryption
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 18:21:24 -0600 Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 01:01:32 +0100 Michael Lothian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once the divx codecs are installed you should be able to play them with any player ie xine or mplayer You may also want to ownload the win32 codecs too What's with the Queers For Fears stuff? Mike snip Its a joke on a band called Tears for Fears that I dearly love. I'm corrupting their band name. shrugs. And I'm queer. So why not? Thx. Femminux And the rest of us are very odd! -- Len Lawrence -- I just got out of the hospital after a speed reading accident. I hit a bookmark. -- Steven Wright -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
