Re: [newbie] Default OS and Internet Problems: THANKYOU!!!!!!!!
NP John, I know how it feels to be in your shoes...and have wanted to throw my own comp out the window a few times. Have fun try not to hit the machine too much. *tempting as that is*. Femme John Lynch wrote: LOL! THAT reminds me! My internet is working on Linux! (well, it does until I try to do something, now all I have to do is work out what that thing is. I have a sneaky suspicion that thing is actually trying to reply to a certain e-mail in this hotmail account. I WILL FIND OUT TONIGHT) THANKYOU!!! to everyone who helped me, ESPECIALLY BRIAN AND FEMME Brian actually got my computer hooked onto the net, and Femme stopped me from throwing the computer out the window!!! I am now Online with Linux!! YAY! h I just remembered what this post was also about. The default OS part, thanks everyone, I nearly lost Windows XP, rewrote some file that's important for XP to work. unpartitioned my harddrive getting rid of Mandrake, vowing not to touch it for another 3 weeks. waking up the next day, repartitioning my harddrive and installing Mandrake again and fixing that goddamn default boot. WORKS NOW :D so now that means I get to use it more! WHICH MEANS I get to ask all of you even more questions!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! From: Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NewbieMandrake-List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Default OS and Internet Problems Date: 24 Mar 2002 15:34:30 -0500 On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 04:08, FemmeFatale wrote: I said FOOT You post-nazi! :) OK next time i'll capitalize it say GNOME Footy-thing! hows that? Femme Roflmao _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default OS and Internet Problems
I am so sorry that your entire computer screwed up. It is good you found out now that Windows was broken while it was still in warranty though. I'm not too sure what you mean by output of the ipconfig command on both machines, Sorry, I do not know much about computers, it's best if you use easy english This is what the ipconfig menu says in more detail. Windows IP Configuration Ethernet adapter Bigpond: Connection-specific DNS Suffix.: nsw.bigpond.net.au IP Address.: (Numbers) Subnet Mask: (Numbers) Default Gateway: (Numbers) Ethernet adater LAN: Connection-specific DNS Suffix.: nsw.bigpond.net.au IP Address.: (Numbers) Subnet Mask: (Numbers) Default Gateway: (blank) ALL of the numbers are different, even the IP Addresses and Subnect Mask are different. I hope this answers your question. If not, would you mind giving me instructions to find out the data you need. Again, I'm really sorry about your computer. Thankyou for all your help. John (sorry for the delay I can only play on the computer at night.) From: Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Default OS and Internet Problems Date: 24 Mar 2002 17:13:16 +1100 John, First an apology for the long silence. As I said in the last message I needed to boot XP to refresh my memory on what to see you to look for. Went to do that and bang - dead system disk. Nasty rattles and not much else. So I am yet another victim of the now infamous IBM Deskstar disks. Now it's back at the supplier for warranty replacement and I have just got my system rebuilt to the point where I can access e-mail again. So, where were we? Oh yes - your ipconfig response does answer the question and verifies that we are good to go. Now, how are your addresses set up? i.e. What is the output of the ipconfig command on both machines? Once I have that, we can get into making them do something useful through linux. Brian On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 22:55, John Lynch wrote: BUGGER!! I'm sorry, but I can't check my network card connections. A giant cupboard is in the way, and I can't get to it. I am 80% sure this is how I am connected. 1 network card in each. telstra modem is connected to WINXP/LINUX, WINXP/LINUX is then connected to WIN98. OOH just got an idea. okay, when I go to the DOS prompt and type in ipconfig it says Windows IP Configuration Ethernet adapter Bigpond: details Ethernet adater LAN: details I HOPE that answers your question. John From: Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Default OS and Internet Problems Date: 23 Mar 2002 22:42:05 +1100 Let's check the network card connections first. Follow the cable from the Telstra modem back to your computer. Where it connects wil be one network card. There is presumably another network card close by with a similar cable which connects to yet another network card in your W98 machine. i.e. XP/Linux box -- W98 box | | Telstra modem I now need to boot XP to refresh my memory on where to tell you to look next - happens so rarely these days I'm getting rusty on Windoze - and loving it! Verify we are right so far while I do that. Brian On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 22:26, John Lynch wrote: Thanks a lot Brain for helping btw. okay. THIS is going to take a lot, due to the fact i know NOTHING about computers (but I've gotten this far and learnt a lot, the main thing I've learnt is how little I know about computers, lol) - Yup I have 2 computers. NO IDEA about the network cards, how I do check that? is it important? - I have a cable modem. and Yes the lights are on, on my special modem that telstra supplied (or else this e-mail would be a miracle) - I don't think I have a hub (I've seen one before and I'm pretty sure I don't have one). I only have 2 computers so I am 99% sure my Dad just got a crossed cable between the 2. (I do know that my Windows XP/Linux computer has to be on for my Windows 98 computer to work =( it's annoying). Hope that's a help. From: Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK John, Let's take this a step at a time. First let's establish what you have - please correct any mistakes: - 2 computers, one with 2 network cards installed and the other with one. - a cable modem or adsl modem connected to a line and with lights on. - a hub to whci both computers are connected, or a crossed cable between the computers. Since I know you are in Sydney - same time zone as me - let's just establish that much first and go from there. Brian
Re: [newbie] Default OS and Internet Problems
OK John, Let's take this a step at a time. First let's establish what you have - please correct any mistakes: - 2 computers, one with 2 network cards installed and the other with one. - a cable modem or adsl modem connected to a line and with lights on. - a hub to whci both computers are connected, or a crossed cable between the computers. Since I know you are in Sydney - same time zone as me - let's just establish that much first and go from there. Brian On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 16:43, John Lynch wrote: I know this must have been answered a MILLION and EIGHT times, but I just installed Mandrake, and I have read SOME of the Archives and couldn't find anything. SO your patience is greatly ENVIED and APPRECIATED. I am in Australia, and I have cable with Telstra. I do not know my IP address, I do not know what a hostname is, I do not know anything about my internet connection, so when I installed Mandrake Linux I left it all blank. HOW do I find out the required information? I also have a LAN (2 computers networked) I do not know if they are working. I have not explored the Mandrake system yet due to the fact i want my internet connection and LAN working before my family know what I've done. (they just got home) ALSO I am TERRIBLY sorry if this has already been answered, I am quite sick atm so please forgive me. But How do I access LILO (so I can make XP my default OS and it goes to XP after waiting 5 seconds for me to specify otherwise) in Gnome (that's the desktop I have). THANKYOU very much. John _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default OS and Internet Problems
Thanks a lot Brain for helping btw. okay. THIS is going to take a lot, due to the fact i know NOTHING about computers (but I've gotten this far and learnt a lot, the main thing I've learnt is how little I know about computers, lol) - Yup I have 2 computers. NO IDEA about the network cards, how I do check that? is it important? - I have a cable modem. and Yes the lights are on, on my special modem that telstra supplied (or else this e-mail would be a miracle) - I don't think I have a hub (I've seen one before and I'm pretty sure I don't have one). I only have 2 computers so I am 99% sure my Dad just got a crossed cable between the 2. (I do know that my Windows XP/Linux computer has to be on for my Windows 98 computer to work =( it's annoying). Hope that's a help. From: Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK John, Let's take this a step at a time. First let's establish what you have - please correct any mistakes: - 2 computers, one with 2 network cards installed and the other with one. - a cable modem or adsl modem connected to a line and with lights on. - a hub to whci both computers are connected, or a crossed cable between the computers. Since I know you are in Sydney - same time zone as me - let's just establish that much first and go from there. Brian On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 16:43, John Lynch wrote: I know this must have been answered a MILLION and EIGHT times, but I just installed Mandrake, and I have read SOME of the Archives and couldn't find anything. SO your patience is greatly ENVIED and APPRECIATED. I am in Australia, and I have cable with Telstra. I do not know my IP address, I do not know what a hostname is, I do not know anything about my internet connection, so when I installed Mandrake Linux I left it all blank. HOW do I find out the required information? I also have a LAN (2 computers networked) I do not know if they are working. I have not explored the Mandrake system yet due to the fact i want my internet connection and LAN working before my family know what I've done. (they just got home) ALSO I am TERRIBLY sorry if this has already been answered, I am quite sick atm so please forgive me. But How do I access LILO (so I can make XP my default OS and it goes to XP after waiting 5 seconds for me to specify otherwise) in Gnome (that's the desktop I have). THANKYOU very much. John _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default OS and Internet Problems
Let's check the network card connections first. Follow the cable from the Telstra modem back to your computer. Where it connects wil be one network card. There is presumably another network card close by with a similar cable which connects to yet another network card in your W98 machine. i.e. XP/Linux box -- W98 box | | Telstra modem I now need to boot XP to refresh my memory on where to tell you to look next - happens so rarely these days I'm getting rusty on Windoze - and loving it! Verify we are right so far while I do that. Brian On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 22:26, John Lynch wrote: Thanks a lot Brain for helping btw. okay. THIS is going to take a lot, due to the fact i know NOTHING about computers (but I've gotten this far and learnt a lot, the main thing I've learnt is how little I know about computers, lol) - Yup I have 2 computers. NO IDEA about the network cards, how I do check that? is it important? - I have a cable modem. and Yes the lights are on, on my special modem that telstra supplied (or else this e-mail would be a miracle) - I don't think I have a hub (I've seen one before and I'm pretty sure I don't have one). I only have 2 computers so I am 99% sure my Dad just got a crossed cable between the 2. (I do know that my Windows XP/Linux computer has to be on for my Windows 98 computer to work =( it's annoying). Hope that's a help. From: Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK John, Let's take this a step at a time. First let's establish what you have - please correct any mistakes: - 2 computers, one with 2 network cards installed and the other with one. - a cable modem or adsl modem connected to a line and with lights on. - a hub to whci both computers are connected, or a crossed cable between the computers. Since I know you are in Sydney - same time zone as me - let's just establish that much first and go from there. Brian On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 16:43, John Lynch wrote: I know this must have been answered a MILLION and EIGHT times, but I just installed Mandrake, and I have read SOME of the Archives and couldn't find anything. SO your patience is greatly ENVIED and APPRECIATED. I am in Australia, and I have cable with Telstra. I do not know my IP address, I do not know what a hostname is, I do not know anything about my internet connection, so when I installed Mandrake Linux I left it all blank. HOW do I find out the required information? I also have a LAN (2 computers networked) I do not know if they are working. I have not explored the Mandrake system yet due to the fact i want my internet connection and LAN working before my family know what I've done. (they just got home) ALSO I am TERRIBLY sorry if this has already been answered, I am quite sick atm so please forgive me. But How do I access LILO (so I can make XP my default OS and it goes to XP after waiting 5 seconds for me to specify otherwise) in Gnome (that's the desktop I have). THANKYOU very much. John _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default OS and Internet Problems
BUGGER!! I'm sorry, but I can't check my network card connections. A giant cupboard is in the way, and I can't get to it. I am 80% sure this is how I am connected. 1 network card in each. telstra modem is connected to WINXP/LINUX, WINXP/LINUX is then connected to WIN98. OOH just got an idea. okay, when I go to the DOS prompt and type in ipconfig it says Windows IP Configuration Ethernet adapter Bigpond: details Ethernet adater LAN: details I HOPE that answers your question. John From: Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Default OS and Internet Problems Date: 23 Mar 2002 22:42:05 +1100 Let's check the network card connections first. Follow the cable from the Telstra modem back to your computer. Where it connects wil be one network card. There is presumably another network card close by with a similar cable which connects to yet another network card in your W98 machine. i.e. XP/Linux box -- W98 box | | Telstra modem I now need to boot XP to refresh my memory on where to tell you to look next - happens so rarely these days I'm getting rusty on Windoze - and loving it! Verify we are right so far while I do that. Brian On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 22:26, John Lynch wrote: Thanks a lot Brain for helping btw. okay. THIS is going to take a lot, due to the fact i know NOTHING about computers (but I've gotten this far and learnt a lot, the main thing I've learnt is how little I know about computers, lol) - Yup I have 2 computers. NO IDEA about the network cards, how I do check that? is it important? - I have a cable modem. and Yes the lights are on, on my special modem that telstra supplied (or else this e-mail would be a miracle) - I don't think I have a hub (I've seen one before and I'm pretty sure I don't have one). I only have 2 computers so I am 99% sure my Dad just got a crossed cable between the 2. (I do know that my Windows XP/Linux computer has to be on for my Windows 98 computer to work =( it's annoying). Hope that's a help. From: Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK John, Let's take this a step at a time. First let's establish what you have - please correct any mistakes: - 2 computers, one with 2 network cards installed and the other with one. - a cable modem or adsl modem connected to a line and with lights on. - a hub to whci both computers are connected, or a crossed cable between the computers. Since I know you are in Sydney - same time zone as me - let's just establish that much first and go from there. Brian On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 16:43, John Lynch wrote: I know this must have been answered a MILLION and EIGHT times, but I just installed Mandrake, and I have read SOME of the Archives and couldn't find anything. SO your patience is greatly ENVIED and APPRECIATED. I am in Australia, and I have cable with Telstra. I do not know my IP address, I do not know what a hostname is, I do not know anything about my internet connection, so when I installed Mandrake Linux I left it all blank. HOW do I find out the required information? I also have a LAN (2 computers networked) I do not know if they are working. I have not explored the Mandrake system yet due to the fact i want my internet connection and LAN working before my family know what I've done. (they just got home) ALSO I am TERRIBLY sorry if this has already been answered, I am quite sick atm so please forgive me. But How do I access LILO (so I can make XP my default OS and it goes to XP after waiting 5 seconds for me to specify otherwise) in Gnome (that's the desktop I have). THANKYOU very much. John _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default OS and Internet Problems
John, First an apology for the long silence. As I said in the last message I needed to boot XP to refresh my memory on what to see you to look for. Went to do that and bang - dead system disk. Nasty rattles and not much else. So I am yet another victim of the now infamous IBM Deskstar disks. Now it's back at the supplier for warranty replacement and I have just got my system rebuilt to the point where I can access e-mail again. So, where were we? Oh yes - your ipconfig response does answer the question and verifies that we are good to go. Now, how are your addresses set up? i.e. What is the output of the ipconfig command on both machines? Once I have that, we can get into making them do something useful through linux. Brian On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 22:55, John Lynch wrote: BUGGER!! I'm sorry, but I can't check my network card connections. A giant cupboard is in the way, and I can't get to it. I am 80% sure this is how I am connected. 1 network card in each. telstra modem is connected to WINXP/LINUX, WINXP/LINUX is then connected to WIN98. OOH just got an idea. okay, when I go to the DOS prompt and type in ipconfig it says Windows IP Configuration Ethernet adapter Bigpond: details Ethernet adater LAN: details I HOPE that answers your question. John From: Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Default OS and Internet Problems Date: 23 Mar 2002 22:42:05 +1100 Let's check the network card connections first. Follow the cable from the Telstra modem back to your computer. Where it connects wil be one network card. There is presumably another network card close by with a similar cable which connects to yet another network card in your W98 machine. i.e. XP/Linux box -- W98 box | | Telstra modem I now need to boot XP to refresh my memory on where to tell you to look next - happens so rarely these days I'm getting rusty on Windoze - and loving it! Verify we are right so far while I do that. Brian On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 22:26, John Lynch wrote: Thanks a lot Brain for helping btw. okay. THIS is going to take a lot, due to the fact i know NOTHING about computers (but I've gotten this far and learnt a lot, the main thing I've learnt is how little I know about computers, lol) - Yup I have 2 computers. NO IDEA about the network cards, how I do check that? is it important? - I have a cable modem. and Yes the lights are on, on my special modem that telstra supplied (or else this e-mail would be a miracle) - I don't think I have a hub (I've seen one before and I'm pretty sure I don't have one). I only have 2 computers so I am 99% sure my Dad just got a crossed cable between the 2. (I do know that my Windows XP/Linux computer has to be on for my Windows 98 computer to work =( it's annoying). Hope that's a help. From: Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK John, Let's take this a step at a time. First let's establish what you have - please correct any mistakes: - 2 computers, one with 2 network cards installed and the other with one. - a cable modem or adsl modem connected to a line and with lights on. - a hub to whci both computers are connected, or a crossed cable between the computers. Since I know you are in Sydney - same time zone as me - let's just establish that much first and go from there. Brian On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 16:43, John Lynch wrote: I know this must have been answered a MILLION and EIGHT times, but I just installed Mandrake, and I have read SOME of the Archives and couldn't find anything. SO your patience is greatly ENVIED and APPRECIATED. I am in Australia, and I have cable with Telstra. I do not know my IP address, I do not know what a hostname is, I do not know anything about my internet connection, so when I installed Mandrake Linux I left it all blank. HOW do I find out the required information? I also have a LAN (2 computers networked) I do not know if they are working. I have not explored the Mandrake system yet due to the fact i want my internet connection and LAN working before my family know what I've done. (they just got home) ALSO I am TERRIBLY sorry if this has already been answered, I am quite sick atm so please forgive me. But How do I access LILO (so I can make XP my default OS and it goes to XP after waiting 5 seconds for me to specify otherwise) in Gnome (that's the desktop I have). THANKYOU very much. John _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
[newbie] Default OS and Internet Problems
I know this must have been answered a MILLION and EIGHT times, but I just installed Mandrake, and I have read SOME of the Archives and couldn't find anything. SO your patience is greatly ENVIED and APPRECIATED. I am in Australia, and I have cable with Telstra. I do not know my IP address, I do not know what a hostname is, I do not know anything about my internet connection, so when I installed Mandrake Linux I left it all blank. HOW do I find out the required information? I also have a LAN (2 computers networked) I do not know if they are working. I have not explored the Mandrake system yet due to the fact i want my internet connection and LAN working before my family know what I've done. (they just got home) ALSO I am TERRIBLY sorry if this has already been answered, I am quite sick atm so please forgive me. But How do I access LILO (so I can make XP my default OS and it goes to XP after waiting 5 seconds for me to specify otherwise) in Gnome (that's the desktop I have). THANKYOU very much. John _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default OS and Internet Problems
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 16:43:15 +1100, John Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this must have been answered a MILLION and EIGHT times, but I just installed Mandrake, and I have read SOME of the Archives and couldn't find anything. SO your patience is greatly ENVIED and APPRECIATED. I am in Australia, and I have cable with Telstra. Ouch! I've heard nothing but bad things about Telstra cable and ADSL. I use Optus cable myself, and it works beautifully :) I do not know my IP address, I do not know what a hostname is, I do not know anything about my internet connection, so when I installed Mandrake Linux I left it all blank. HOW do I find out the required information? Call Telstra's help line and ask them. Telstra's cable network is non-standard, unlike Optus which uses the @Home system and DOCSIS (an internetional cable modem standard). You need a special client to connect to Telstra, which can be found at http://bpalogin.sourceforge.net/. You can skip Step 2 of the tutorial (http://bpalogin.sourceforge.net/tutorial.html) by making sure that you have the dhcpcd package installed (this is included in Mandrake, so you don't have to compile your own). I also have a LAN (2 computers networked) I do not know if they are working. There are LAN tools in the Mandrake COntrol Centre. I have not explored the Mandrake system yet due to the fact i want my internet connection and LAN working before my family know what I've done. (they just got home) ALSO I am TERRIBLY sorry if this has already been answered, I am quite sick atm so please forgive me. I don't recall any Telstra questions on the list, so yours may be the first. You may want to search through the list archives just in case. You may find some extra detail there. But How do I access LILO (so I can make XP my default OS and it goes to XP after waiting 5 seconds for me to specify otherwise) in Gnome (that's the desktop I have). Again, this is configurable in the Mandrake Control Centre. You can also access the raw LILO settings in the /etc/lilo.conf file. Run 'lilo' once you've changed them. THANKYOU very much. John No worries :) -- Sridhar Dhanapalan 4|)V4|\|C3D l3e+ $peA| i$ whEn J00 +4lK L!K3 t|-|15. t0 u|\|d3r$+@|\|D jOo |\/|u5+ be 1337. 1f J00 4r3 NO+ lEe+ jOO C@|\|N07 5p3A| 0r ReAd +|-|I5 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default OS and Internet Problems
Welll...you're in a whole mess of trouble aren't you ;p John Lynch wrote: I know this must have been answered a MILLION and EIGHT times, but I just installed Mandrake, and I have read SOME of the Archives and couldn't find anything. Yes but we're a patient lot. :) SO your patience is greatly ENVIED and APPRECIATED. Envied? H...so... you envy that we have the patience to deal with you? :) I am in Australia, and I have cable with Telstra. K now I envy You ;p I do not know my IP address, I do not know what a hostname is, I do not know anything about my internet connection, so when I installed Mandrake Linux I left it all blank. You're on XP? Run a cmd line *Dos window thingy*, then type: ipconfig /all You'll find all your settings there! write em down. You'll need them. HOW do I find out the required information? I also have a LAN (2 computers networked) I do not know if they are working. Ignore the LAN for now. Far too complex to get into here ;p I have not explored the Mandrake system yet due to the fact i want my internet connection and LAN working before my family know what I've done. (they just got home) ALSO I am TERRIBLY sorry if this has already been answered, I am quite sick atm so please forgive me. But How do I access LILO (so I can make XP my default OS and it goes to XP after waiting 5 seconds for me to specify otherwise) in Gnome (that's the desktop I have). In Mandrake, hit the little foot or the K at the bottom of your window, then navigate to Mandrake Control center *might be on the desktop too*. IN that, find the BOOT options under that will be a window for LILO configuration. THANKYOU very much. John Thank us when its all working k? Till then try to avoid strangling someone :p Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com