Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus
On Monday 01 Mar 2004 11:04 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Did scribus need and dependencies ? just out of interest. John Hello John. I have only briefly tried Scribus, as I am just starting to find out about it, having read an article on it in Linux Format magazine. So I haven't given it a really good test, yet. However, from what I have found, it appears to work OK. I only installed the program and libscribus. On the site from where I downloaded it, there was a list of another 16 libraries which it said Scribus requires and which are not installed on my machine. I haven't downloaded these, but will do so (as it says they are needed), so that the installation is complete. For information, the missing libraries are: libICE.so.6, libSM.so.6, libX11.so.6, libXext.so.6, libC.so.6, libdl.so.2, libqcc s .so.1, libm.so.6, libnsl.so.1, libpnq.so.3, libpthread.so.0, libqt-mt.so.3, libresolv.so.2, libstdc++.so.5, libz.so.1 I can't find any of them on my CDs. Cheers Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 02 March 2004 09:40, Keith Powell wrote: I have only briefly tried Scribus, as I am just starting to find out about it, having read an article on it in Linux Format magazine. So I haven't given it a really good test, yet. However, from what I have found, it appears to work OK. I only installed the program and libscribus. Keith, I'm interested in trying Scribus as soon as I can get the time ;-) One of the things I need, though, in a DP app is the ability to correctly print folded brochures, you know - 2xA5 on an A4 sheet, printed 1 24 on one side, 2 23 on the other. Is this asking too much of Scribus at present? Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFARGPekFAvMr/nNX8RAnedAKCiEkUNXkGm97qa2we+NGgPOcP7gwCdGqmR ivJMdnMcgZL/2VReFGKwGiA= =0fww -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus
On Tuesday 02 Mar 2004 10:37 am, Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 02 March 2004 09:40, Keith Powell wrote: I have only briefly tried Scribus, as I am just starting to find out about it, having read an article on it in Linux Format magazine. So I haven't given it a really good test, yet. However, from what I have found, it appears to work OK. I only installed the program and libscribus. Keith, I'm interested in trying Scribus as soon as I can get the time ;-) One of the things I need, though, in a DP app is the ability to correctly print folded brochures, you know - 2xA5 on an A4 sheet, printed 1 24 on one side, 2 23 on the other. Is this asking too much of Scribus at present? Anne Leave it with me for a few days, Anne, until I have started to get to grips with Scribus. I'll get back to you as soon as I have found out if it will do booklets/brochures. Cheers for now Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus
Anne, I take it you have a double sided printer? After a quick look at scribus it does not seem to do the double sided printing, but that could be because it know's my printer will not do double sided. You could always put the paper back in the printer and print on the other side. Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 02 March 2004 09:40, Keith Powell wrote: I have only briefly tried Scribus, as I am just starting to find out about it, having read an article on it in Linux Format magazine. So I haven't given it a really good test, yet. However, from what I have found, it appears to work OK. I only installed the program and libscribus. Keith, I'm interested in trying Scribus as soon as I can get the time ;-) One of the things I need, though, in a DP app is the ability to correctly print folded brochures, you know - 2xA5 on an A4 sheet, printed 1 24 on one side, 2 23 on the other. Is this asking too much of Scribus at present? Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFARGPekFAvMr/nNX8RAnedAKCiEkUNXkGm97qa2we+NGgPOcP7gwCdGqmR ivJMdnMcgZL/2VReFGKwGiA= =0fww -END PGP SIGNATURE- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the postmaster immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus
On Tuesday 02 Mar 2004 09:40, Keith Powell wrote: On Monday 01 Mar 2004 11:04 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Did scribus need and dependencies ? just out of interest. John Hello John. I have only briefly tried Scribus, as I am just starting to find out about it, having read an article on it in Linux Format magazine. So I haven't given it a really good test, yet. However, from what I have found, it appears to work OK. I only installed the program and libscribus. On the site from where I downloaded it, there was a list of another 16 libraries which it said Scribus requires and which are not installed on my machine. I haven't downloaded these, but will do so (as it says they are needed), so that the installation is complete. For information, the missing libraries are: libICE.so.6, libSM.so.6, libX11.so.6, libXext.so.6, libC.so.6, libdl.so.2, libqcc s .so.1, libm.so.6, libnsl.so.1, libpnq.so.3, libpthread.so.0, libqt-mt.so.3, libresolv.so.2, libstdc++.so.5, libz.so.1 I can't find any of them on my CDs. Cheers Keith These are files not packages. To search for the package they belong to, use urpmf libICE and so on. Leave out the version number since you may have a higher version than required. If they were *required* then they would have been installed along with the scribus RPM (if they were not already) derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 02 March 2004 11:28, Keith Powell wrote: Leave it with me for a few days, Anne, until I have started to get to grips with Scribus. I'll get back to you as soon as I have found out if it will do booklets/brochures. Thanks Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFARH/QkFAvMr/nNX8RApLMAJwNlIx9X1AsMwudmgmTsqMT5dAHIgCfSUkR ml4p1DeBxLudRS+KUl4mcGI= =i8Pa -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 02 March 2004 12:30, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Anne, I take it you have a double sided printer? After a quick look at scribus it does not seem to do the double sided printing, but that could be because it know's my printer will not do double sided. You could always put the paper back in the printer and print on the other side. Yes, double sided is part of the printer setup, so that's no problem. What *is* the problem is the ability to arrange the pages with 1 24 on one side and 23 2 on the other, so that when they are folded they scan correctly. Few WP programs can do this well, and DTP programs that can tend to be expensive. I use PagePlus under Win4Lin to get round the problem, but it would be nice to have a native linux app. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFARIDWkFAvMr/nNX8RAgXcAJ43+2ARbPNDpv1i0fuFeKJW5vDIKwCfRyRn jK0/9I8ndinNzGy3CBQaYd4= =VbAW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus
Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 02 Mar 2004 09:40, Keith Powell wrote: On Monday 01 Mar 2004 11:04 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Did scribus need and dependencies ? just out of interest. John Hello John. I have only briefly tried Scribus, as I am just starting to find out about it, having read an article on it in Linux Format magazine. So I haven't given it a really good test, yet. However, from what I have found, it appears to work OK. I only installed the program and libscribus. On the site from where I downloaded it, there was a list of another 16 libraries which it said Scribus requires and which are not installed on my machine. I haven't downloaded these, but will do so (as it says they are needed), so that the installation is complete. For information, the missing libraries are: libICE.so.6, libSM.so.6, libX11.so.6, libXext.so.6, libC.so.6, libdl.so.2, libqcc s .so.1, libm.so.6, libnsl.so.1, libpnq.so.3, libpthread.so.0, libqt-mt.so.3, libresolv.so.2, libstdc++.so.5, libz.so.1 I can't find any of them on my CDs. Cheers Keith These are files not packages. To search for the package they belong to, use urpmf libICE and so on. Leave out the version number since you may have a higher version than required. If they were *required* then they would have been installed along with the scribus RPM (if they were not already) derek So that is what they are , I have often seen , XYZ.so.1 or something and wondered. So, what sort of a library is a file like these ? Any idea ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus
On Tuesday 02 March 2004 10:16 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 02 Mar 2004 09:40, Keith Powell wrote: On Monday 01 Mar 2004 11:04 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Did scribus need and dependencies ? just out of interest. John Hello John. I have only briefly tried Scribus, as I am just starting to find out about it, having read an article on it in Linux Format magazine. So I haven't given it a really good test, yet. However, from what I have found, it appears to work OK. I only installed the program and libscribus. On the site from where I downloaded it, there was a list of another 16 libraries which it said Scribus requires and which are not installed on my machine. I haven't downloaded these, but will do so (as it says they are needed), so that the installation is complete. For information, the missing libraries are: libICE.so.6, libSM.so.6, libX11.so.6, libXext.so.6, libC.so.6, libdl.so.2, libqcc s .so.1, libm.so.6, libnsl.so.1, libpnq.so.3, libpthread.so.0, libqt-mt.so.3, libresolv.so.2, libstdc++.so.5, libz.so.1 I can't find any of them on my CDs. Cheers Keith These are files not packages. To search for the package they belong to, use urpmf libICE and so on. Leave out the version number since you may have a higher version than required. If they were *required* then they would have been installed along with the scribus RPM (if they were not already) derek So that is what they are , I have often seen , XYZ.so.1 or something and wondered. So, what sort of a library is a file like these ? Any idea ? I installed it via urpmi and it only complained about one file urpmi ed that one bingo. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus
The fact that at least one list-member is unable to find Scribus on the download CD's for Mandrake 9.1, 9.2, and 10.0, made me wonder how many folks on the list are aware that there are 2 lists of packages on the Download CD sets. Assuming that you normally do your installations using the graphic installer included on the CD's, you may not be aware that you can also access a detailed list of packages instead of the default package list. This could be the reason that some folks on the list aren't seeing some of the apps, packages, and libraries which are included on the CD's. Also, it wouldn't surprise me to find out that your list of installed packages which is viewed in the software installer in MCC shows you a list based on how you viewed it during your install. Assuming that this is the case, you're missing out on a lot of software contained on the CD's which you would normally have to find by browsing each CD manually. Next time you're doing an install and you get to the first panel which lists main package groups (Workstation, Network Client, Desktops, Server ), check the box at the bottom of the panel called Individual Package Selection and click Next. Once you're at the next panel, you will see 4 icons in the lower-left corner of the panel. From left to right, icons 12 allow you to view the current list in expanded mode, or to close the expanded mode. Icon #3 however, toggles the default list to the full comprehensive list or what is also known as the Flat List. This is the one which will present you with the detailed list of packages. Dependancies will still be selected as required , so don't worry about that. Icon #4 can also be exceptionally helpful if you have a floppy drive. You can use this icon to save your list of packages to a floppy and also to read from that floppy disk the next time you need to do an install, on any PC, server, or laptop which has a floppy drive. This will save you a substantial amount of time when having to re-install, or upgrade. If you remember to back up your home folders and config files, you can also perform full installs of new versions, then create your old users in the same order you had done before, and copy/paste your saved files and configs back to their respective folders. Not only will you save time, but you can avoid the hassles of leftover package remnants from previous installs screwing up your install of the latest version of Mandrake. Hope this info helps! -- Lanman Registered Linux user #190712 Running Mandrake 10.0 RC1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus
On Monday 01 Mar 2004 1:44 pm, Lanman wrote: The fact that at least one list-member is unable to find Scribus on the download CD's for Mandrake 9.1, 9.2, and 10.0, made me wonder how many folks on the list are aware that there are 2 lists of packages on the Download CD sets. Assuming that you normally do your installations using the graphic installer included on the CD's, you may not be aware that you can also access a detailed list of packages instead of the default package list. This could be the reason that some folks on the list aren't seeing some of the apps, packages, and libraries which are included on the CD's. Also, it wouldn't surprise me to find out that your list of installed packages which is viewed in the software installer in MCC shows you a list based on how you viewed it during your install. Assuming that this is the case, you're missing out on a lot of software contained on the CD's which you would normally have to find by browsing each CD manually. Next time you're doing an install and you get to the first panel which lists main package groups (Workstation, Network Client, Desktops, Server ), check the box at the bottom of the panel called Individual Package Selection and click Next. Once you're at the next panel, you will see 4 icons in the lower-left corner of the panel. From left to right, icons 12 allow you to view the current list in expanded mode, or to close the expanded mode. Icon #3 however, toggles the default list to the full comprehensive list or what is also known as the Flat List. This is the one which will present you with the detailed list of packages. Dependancies will still be selected as required , so don't worry about that. Icon #4 can also be exceptionally helpful if you have a floppy drive. You can use this icon to save your list of packages to a floppy and also to read from that floppy disk the next time you need to do an install, on any PC, server, or laptop which has a floppy drive. This will save you a substantial amount of time when having to re-install, or upgrade. If you remember to back up your home folders and config files, you can also perform full installs of new versions, then create your old users in the same order you had done before, and copy/paste your saved files and configs back to their respective folders. Not only will you save time, but you can avoid the hassles of leftover package remnants from previous installs screwing up your install of the latest version of Mandrake. Hope this info helps! Many thanks, Lanman, for the very useful information. I have printed it out for future reference. Scribus is definitely not on my download CDs. I have looked at the actual rpm's on all of them (not just the lists), and it's nowhere in sight. I must have bought an incomplete download edition. Can't download the CDs myself, as I only have a dial-up Internet connection. I have decided that when Mandrake10 is available, I'll buy the boxed set. This will teach me not to economise! Cheers Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus
No Problem Keith. Glad I was able to offer some useful info. Just another suggestion, but you might want to talk to a friend or neighbor who has high-speed and download the CD's for yourself thru them. I didn't realize that you had purchased your set. Must be a set with a shrunk-down list of packages. Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus
Keith Powell wrote: Many thanks, Lanman, for the very useful information. I have printed it out for future reference. Scribus is definitely not on my download CDs. I have looked at the actual rpm's on all of them (not just the lists), and it's nowhere in sight. I must have bought an incomplete download edition. Can't download the CDs myself, as I only have a dial-up Internet connection. I have decided that when Mandrake10 is available, I'll buy the boxed set. This will teach me not to economise! Cheers Keith None of these any use to you ? http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=Scribussubmit=Search+... Mandrake's version is 3.1MB, achievable in a download programme like d4x , even for dialup. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 01 March 2004 13:44, Lanman wrote: The fact that at least one list-member is unable to find Scribus on the download CD's for Mandrake 9.1, 9.2, and 10.0, made me wonder how many folks on the list are aware that there are 2 lists of packages on the Download CD sets. And while we are on the subject of Software Installer, note that there is a radio button for Maximum Information. Definitely worth using, since it not only tells you about the package, but also the source for it. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAQ5yEkFAvMr/nNX8RAqiMAJ9/BvJ2ToNqpw3obkRzfyKmt/CHQACeJxoP 0q9GR+beGNsWaiE2c4UcniU= =l1V6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus
On Monday 01 Mar 2004 8:01 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Keith Powell wrote: Many thanks, Lanman, for the very useful information. I have printed it out for future reference. Scribus is definitely not on my download CDs. I have looked at the actual rpm's on all of them (not just the lists), and it's nowhere in sight. I must have bought an incomplete download edition. Can't download the CDs myself, as I only have a dial-up Internet connection. I have decided that when Mandrake10 is available, I'll buy the boxed set. This will teach me not to economise! Cheers Keith None of these any use to you ? http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=Scribussubmit=Searc h+... Mandrake's version is 3.1MB, achievable in a download programme like d4x , even for dialup. John Thanks for your reply, John. I had downloaded Scribus using rpmfind, and it works OK. It was downloading the complete 3 CD Download Version to which I was referring. There's no problem with downloading just individual programs, but with my limited connect time, downloading the complete distro in bits would take weeks!!! Cheers Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Default Versus Flat Lists On Download CD's - Was Scribus
Keith Powell wrote: On Monday 01 Mar 2004 8:01 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Keith Powell wrote: Many thanks, Lanman, for the very useful information. I have printed it out for future reference. Scribus is definitely not on my download CDs. I have looked at the actual rpm's on all of them (not just the lists), and it's nowhere in sight. I must have bought an incomplete download edition. Can't download the CDs myself, as I only have a dial-up Internet connection. I have decided that when Mandrake10 is available, I'll buy the boxed set. This will teach me not to economise! Cheers Keith None of these any use to you ? http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=Scribussubmit=Searc h+... Mandrake's version is 3.1MB, achievable in a download programme like d4x , even for dialup. John Thanks for your reply, John. I had downloaded Scribus using rpmfind, and it works OK. It was downloading the complete 3 CD Download Version to which I was referring. There's no problem with downloading just individual programs, but with my limited connect time, downloading the complete distro in bits would take weeks!!! Cheers Keith Same for me, the 3 CD's of the download take 10-14 days depending upon how much I'm permitted to monopolise the internet connection. So Mandrake testing isn't that much of a practical proposition even if I could update the urpmi header lists, and go that route, the risk of cutoff is too high to be practicable. I usually end up monopolising the internet connection twice a year for a fortnight each time though. Did scribus need and dependencies ? just out of interest. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
