[newbie] Hmmm ... app crash after most installs?

2004-03-27 Thread Chuck Mattsen
Just a minor annoyance, but wondering if it's usual or something else
is amiss. (Running MDK as below in sig.)

I've noted that after installing most apps (most recently rute and
gimp-2 via urpmi, but also most others I can recall), the first
attempt to run that app from the KDE menu will result in an app crash. 
The second attempt (and subsequent runs) will work with no errors.  This
seems to be the case whether or not I've ended and restarted my KDE
session.

Do others experience this regularly/is this common?  Again, just a minor
annoyance and always just a solitary, nonrepeatable crash, but one of
those Hmmm... things, nonetheless.

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Re: [newbie] Hmmm ... app crash after most installs?

2004-03-27 Thread Paul
On 03/27/2004 10:01 AM, Chuck Mattsen wrote:

Do others experience this regularly/is this common?  Again, just a minor
annoyance and always just a solitary, nonrepeatable crash, but one of
those Hmmm... things, nonetheless.
 

Very strange. I have never had this happen in all my Linux life (which 
started in 1999...).

I hope you can figure this out!
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Re: [newbie] Hmmm ... app crash after most installs?

2004-03-27 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Saturday 27 March 2004 03:01 am, Chuck Mattsen wrote:
 Just a minor annoyance, but wondering if it's usual or
 something else is amiss. (Running MDK as below in sig.)

 I've noted that after installing most apps (most recently
 rute and gimp-2 via urpmi, but also most others I can
 recall), the first attempt to run that app from the KDE menu
 will result in an app crash. The second attempt (and subsequent
 runs) will work with no errors.  This seems to be the case
 whether or not I've ended and restarted my KDE session.

 Do others experience this regularly/is this common?  Again,
 just a minor annoyance and always just a solitary,
 nonrepeatable crash, but one of those Hmmm... things,
 nonetheless.

I believe it's peculiar to your system.  I've run 10.0 all 
thru the development process to 10.0-CE, and now 10.0-OE (as of 
about today.  Note to everybody, this is my conjecture).  I read 
the cooker, buggzilla, and change log lists daily. I can't 
remember anyone mentioning such a problem.

'Bout the only thing I can suggest is to install cooker 
sources for RPMS/ (main) and RPMS2/ (contrib) and update to 
current cooker.  You should then have 10.0 Official. I believe 
this announcement is comin next week.
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3
  You could use 'stable' and 'stable contrib' sources, but those 
are just symlinked to cooker.  You also might miss any last 
minute, post 10.0-OE updates if you use 'stable'.  It will be 
unlinked to cooker after Official is announced.
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Re: [newbie] Hmmm ... app crash after most installs?

2004-03-27 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Saturday 27 March 2004 09:03, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Saturday 27 March 2004 03:01 am, Chuck Mattsen wrote:
  Just a minor annoyance, but wondering if it's usual or
  something else is amiss. (Running MDK as below in sig.)
 
  I've noted that after installing most apps (most recently
  rute and gimp-2 via urpmi, but also most others I can
  recall), the first attempt to run that app from the KDE menu
  will result in an app crash. The second attempt (and subsequent
  runs) will work with no errors.  This seems to be the case
  whether or not I've ended and restarted my KDE session.
 
  Do others experience this regularly/is this common?  Again,
  just a minor annoyance and always just a solitary,
  nonrepeatable crash, but one of those Hmmm... things,
  nonetheless.

 I believe it's peculiar to your system.  I've run 10.0 all
 thru the development process to 10.0-CE, and now 10.0-OE (as of
 about today.  Note to everybody, this is my conjecture).  I read
 the cooker, buggzilla, and change log lists daily. I can't
 remember anyone mentioning such a problem.

 'Bout the only thing I can suggest is to install cooker
 sources for RPMS/ (main) and RPMS2/ (contrib) and update to
 current cooker.  You should then have 10.0 Official. I believe
 this announcement is comin next week.
 http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3
   You could use 'stable' and 'stable contrib' sources, but those
 are just symlinked to cooker.  You also might miss any last
 minute, post 10.0-OE updates if you use 'stable'.  It will be
 unlinked to cooker after Official is announced.
I don't know if you would consider it the same or simular even.  After 
this install of 9.2, I had updated and clicked on mozilla didn't work 
so I tried galeon didn't work, don't remember the reason, went to kmail 
it worked.  After that went back to mozilla and galeon and they both 
worked.  No idea why.
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Re: [newbie] Hmmm ... app crash after most installs?

2004-03-27 Thread Chuck Mattsen
On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 09:03, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Saturday 27 March 2004 03:01 am, Chuck Mattsen wrote:
  Just a minor annoyance, but wondering if it's usual or
  something else is amiss. (Running MDK as below in sig.)
 
  I've noted that after installing most apps (most recently
  rute and gimp-2 via urpmi, but also most others I can
  recall), the first attempt to run that app from the KDE menu
  will result in an app crash. The second attempt (and subsequent
  runs) will work with no errors.  This seems to be the case
  whether or not I've ended and restarted my KDE session.
 
  Do others experience this regularly/is this common?  Again,
  just a minor annoyance and always just a solitary,
  nonrepeatable crash, but one of those Hmmm... things,
  nonetheless.
 
 I believe it's peculiar to your system.  I've run 10.0 all 
 thru the development process to 10.0-CE, and now 10.0-OE (as of 
 about today.  Note to everybody, this is my conjecture).  I read 
 the cooker, buggzilla, and change log lists daily. I can't 
 remember anyone mentioning such a problem.
 
 'Bout the only thing I can suggest is to install cooker 
 sources for RPMS/ (main) and RPMS2/ (contrib) and update to 
 current cooker.  You should then have 10.0 Official. I believe 
 this announcement is comin next week.
 http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3
   You could use 'stable' and 'stable contrib' sources, but those 
 are just symlinked to cooker.  You also might miss any last 
 minute, post 10.0-OE updates if you use 'stable'.  It will be 
 unlinked to cooker after Official is announced.

Actually, I've already got cooker sources in place and keep current with
the updates.

Again, though, it's just one of those first-time crash things, and it
never happens again (for that app).  I /suspect/ it might be wrapped up
in the menuing or something (I should try a first run of a program from
Konsole next time to see if I get the same result and/or to watch for
errors, just to see).

Other than this niggling little thing -- which I've come to expect now
-- everything seems rock solid. 

thx.

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[newbie] hmmm, odd

2003-10-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [newbie] hmmm, odd

2003-10-26 Thread Margot
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Re: [newbie] hmmm.. two questions.

2002-01-04 Thread Peter Bussiere

On Sat, 17 November 2001, Roy Hershberger wrote:

 
 Gina,
 
 Gimp is there but you might have to run the software manager to install it if 
 it didn't install initially. 
 
 Linux ppc should work in any PPC mac, but not in 68k.
 
 Roy
 
 On Saturday 17 November 2001 00:10, you wrote:
  One:  Is it standard for mandrake 8.1not to come with
  gimp? Is it perhaps that I do not have a full set of
  libraries?
 
  Out of curiosity (my partner is a complete mac freak
  -ok so I haven't looked at osX as of YET)-
 
  Can you run linux on (I should stress) older mac
  architecture?
 
 
 
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Re: [newbie] hmmm.. two questions.

2001-11-17 Thread David E. Fox

 One:  Is it standard for mandrake 8.1not to come with
 gimp? Is it perhaps that I do not have a full set of
 libraries?

I'm sure gimp is there - use rpmdrake to look for the gimp
RPM and install it. It might not be installed by default,
depending on how you decided to install your system.

 Can you run linux on (I should stress) older mac
 architecture?

There are some mac systems that it will run on. You might get some
information on http://www.mac.linux-m68k.org/ .

Look for the following rpms:

xsane-gimp-0.61-0mdk_helix_1
gimp-devel-1.1.29-0mdk_helix_1
gimp-perl70-1.1.29-0mdk_helix_1
gimp-perl72-1.1.29-0mdk_helix_1
gimp-data-extras-1.0.0-10mdk
xpcd-gimp-2.08-9mdk
gimp-1.1.29-0mdk_helix_1

Or similar - my gimp is from Helix gnome rather than Mandrake - but my
archive of Mandrake shows that gimp, gimp-data-extras, etc., are there.

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[newbie] hmmm.. two questions.

2001-11-16 Thread G A

One:  Is it standard for mandrake 8.1not to come with
gimp? Is it perhaps that I do not have a full set of
libraries?

Out of curiosity (my partner is a complete mac freak
-ok so I haven't looked at osX as of YET)-

Can you run linux on (I should stress) older mac
architecture?



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Re: [newbie] hmmm.. two questions.

2001-11-16 Thread Roy Hershberger

Gina,

Gimp is there but you might have to run the software manager to install it if 
it didn't install initially. 

Linux ppc should work in any PPC mac, but not in 68k.

Roy

On Saturday 17 November 2001 00:10, you wrote:
 One:  Is it standard for mandrake 8.1not to come with
 gimp? Is it perhaps that I do not have a full set of
 libraries?

 Out of curiosity (my partner is a complete mac freak
 -ok so I haven't looked at osX as of YET)-

 Can you run linux on (I should stress) older mac
 architecture?



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Re: [newbie] hmmm.... LM 7.2 installation queries

2001-02-18 Thread H.J.Bathoorn

On Sunday 18 February 2001 01:36, you wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've just decided to give Mandrake a go (Redhat otherwise)  am
 having some fun getting the LM 7.2 installer to work...:

 1) perl script errors on trying to mount "/" in the diskdruid
 (??) program. I'd set the mount point  format the disk, but
 then trying to mount it would generate a perl script error on
 line 218 of some script. Perhaps it's not necessary as it does
 eventually get mounted anyway... just curious to know what the
 deal is.

 2) Erroneous disk space requirements reported: Regardless of
 what I select on the high level package selection screen, it
 always reports hefty disk space requirements. Manual calculation
 would indicat that the selected package groups would require say
 1.1GB, yet the installer would turn around  stat that 2.6GB was
 required. why is this? How can I get around it?

 3) Xserver lockups on resolution test. After successfully
 detecting my S3 Virge/DX video card, and having spcified my
 exact monitor type (Samsung 17GLi), the test of the minimal
 resolution I'd selected (800x600x16, or did I select any??)
 would just result in a permanent black screen. I've not really
 ever had this problem before (to my recollection) under Redhat 
 Debian.

 4) Missing files after install. After an eventual successful
 install (various bypasses to the problems above) some tools seem
 to be missing: Xconfigurator - should that not be in
 /usr/X11R6/bin just like XF86config is?; On boot of an older
 machine (installed via ftp from the newer one) init is loaded
 but then asks what runlevel to switch to! I've not checked, but
 perhaps the rc.d ( associated) directories are screwed up? I'm
 wondering if perhaps these files ( others) are missing due to
 the fact that I'd had to let the installed trim the installation
 base down from 2.6GB to 1.3GB, as described in point 2 above.
 hmmm surely these files would not get the chop so easily?

 Well, I like the look/feel of LM, but these issues ain't no fun.
 RH7.0 and DB2.2 installs went relatively flawlessly, so the
 impression ain't too good. I've searched the newbie  expert
 mailing lists,  found nothing much. Access to a
 news.mandrake.com would be nice too.

 Thanks, sTu.

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Check out your hdisk with fdisk (linux one) or cfdisk on what 
partitions you actually have. Propably mdk left old ones intact 
and created new ones - careful as it is on leaving other OS'es 
intact on installation. I found  partitioning with  fdisk 
beforehand, and choosing 'custom' or 'expert' install very helpful.
Don't forget to format the new partitions though.

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Re: [newbie] hmmm, fat32

2000-04-22 Thread Michael Holt

haha! Happy Easter to you too!
Mike

Dan LaBine wrote:
 
 Enough is Enough!! Have some compassion for the rest of us will ya? It's
 easter for God's sake! Most of us ( I hope! ) just ate a hell of a lot of
 ham or something, and all you can talk about is FAT??? Why not wait until
 tomorrow when we're all feeling real guilty about making pigs of ourselves,
 and then hit us with all the FAT talk ! Personally, I went WAY beyond 32
 grams of Fat tonight! Grin, Grin! Happy Easter!

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Re: [newbie] hmmm, fat32

2000-04-22 Thread Dan LaBine

Just figured that with all the arguing going on in here that we could use a
little humour. I will admit however, that us Linux folks are passionate
about our O/S 's. What'cha gonna do, eh? Have a good one, but go easy on the
chocolate bunnies!

Dan
( here ends the easter comments! Let's get back to being cocky, arrogant
computer geeks! Woo Hoo!)
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Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2000 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] hmmm, fat32


 haha! Happy Easter to you too!
 Mike

 Dan LaBine wrote:
 
  Enough is Enough!! Have some compassion for the rest of us will ya? It's
  easter for God's sake! Most of us ( I hope! ) just ate a hell of a lot
of
  ham or something, and all you can talk about is FAT??? Why not wait
until
  tomorrow when we're all feeling real guilty about making pigs of
ourselves,
  and then hit us with all the FAT talk ! Personally, I went WAY beyond 32
  grams of Fat tonight! Grin, Grin! Happy Easter!

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Re: [newbie] hmmm, fat32

2000-04-22 Thread Kenneth L. Yoho Jr.

yes but your fstab.conf  file has to have vfat as the type.

Vic wrote:



 Just out of curiosity, I wonder if Linux (any version) can
 read a fat32 partition.

 No rush, just curious.
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[newbie] hmmm, fat32

2000-04-21 Thread Vic

Just out of curiosity, I wonder if Linux (any version) can
read a fat32 partition.

No rush, just curious.
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Re: [newbie] hmmm, fat32

2000-04-21 Thread Michael Holt

Yes, most distributions come preconfigured to read and write to FAT32.  Linux
calls it vfat.

Mike

Vic wrote:

 Just out of curiosity, I wonder if Linux (any version) can
 read a fat32 partition.

 No rush, just curious.
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Re: [newbie] hmmm, fat32

2000-04-21 Thread Vic

Oh wow, someone told me that fat32 was not vfat, whups.

Thankx for the update. :)

On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, you wrote:
 Yes, most distributions come preconfigured to read and write to FAT32.  Linux
 calls it vfat.
 
 Mike
 
 Vic wrote:
 
  Just out of curiosity, I wonder if Linux (any version) can
  read a fat32 partition.
 
  No rush, just curious.
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Re: [newbie] hmmm, fat32

2000-04-21 Thread Michael Holt

Yeah, when I first started with Linux (not that long ago)I assigned my
windows partitions the dos file system and I couldn't figure out why all
my file names were getting chopped up (dos only allows 8 char for file
names and 3 for extensions). I switched to vfat and have lived happily
ever after!

=) Mike

Vic wrote:
 
 Oh wow, someone told me that fat32 was not vfat, whups.
 
 Thankx for the update. :)
 
 On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, you wrote:
  Yes, most distributions come preconfigured to read and write to FAT32.  Linux
  calls it vfat.
 
  Mike
 
  Vic wrote:
 
   Just out of curiosity, I wonder if Linux (any version) can
   read a fat32 partition.
  
   No rush, just curious.
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RE: [newbie] Hmmm

2000-03-13 Thread Tom Berger


On 13-Mar-2000 Wayne wrote:
 Sorry guys.
 
 Further to my last, I have cheked the ownership of my device (hdd1) under
 my /dev directory and have found that it is owned by me (wapether) and not
 by root, yet root owns all of the directories on it and I cannot change
 the attributes as root or myself.  HELP!
 
 Wayne


Are you talking about directories on a Windos partition? You can't change their
permissions since Windos has no idea what permissions are. Try the umask entry
suggested by a previous poster.

Regards

tom
 
 
 
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 Bond University
 
 

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[newbie] Hmmm

2000-03-12 Thread Wayne

Sorry guys.

Further to my last, I have cheked the ownership of my device (hdd1) under
my /dev directory and have found that it is owned by me (wapether) and not
by root, yet root owns all of the directories on it and I cannot change
the attributes as root or myself.  HELP!

Wayne




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Re: [Re: [newbie] Hmmm, update downloads wont work]

1999-10-28 Thread Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.

Yup,

My old box does keep me waiting some, but not nearly as bad as in Win95. I
mostly wait for apps to load, once their loaded, things work pretty good. I am
using an AMD x5-133 with 80M RAM on a 486a-VIP MB wh. a PCI bus - it was a
pretty good board when I got it. A new board-CPU is on the wish list, but I got
a rule about toys (this particular toy is my one great passion), I never buy
them on credit, and other expences allways come first (like all those little
emergencies that seem to crop up whenever you get a little extra cash saved).
This way when I play, I don't need to deal with any "guilt" for the fun I have.

The only bug I know of is the one with the kdelibs package conflicting with
the kcmclock package. But, then again, I am a newbie just like you, and am not
on the Mandrake staff so there may be other bugs. Did you try to do the
work-around with kdelibs by removing kcmclock, then reinstalling kdelibs ? 

Ernie


On Wed, 27 Oct 1999,Jaguar wrote:
  | FYI
  | When I first got L-M 6.0 home, and installed it...it was to an AST 486 - 66,
  | with 16 MB Ram.  It installed perfectly ie: no conflicts with CPU, but was
  | extremely S L O W...:(
  | I have since put L-M on a Cyrix GM 233 Pentium system with 32 MB Ram, same
  | install...but much faster.
  | Jaguar
  | 
  | "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  |  Rick,
  |  
  |  I had a variety of seemingly unrelated problems when I did the update from
  |  Mandrake 6.0 to 6.1. Most if not all of them were fixed when I removed the
  |  kcmclock package, and reinstalled the kdelibs package. I also did some
  | changes
  |  to my rpmrc file, to let rpm install the Mandrake packages on my old
  | 486-style
  |  system. Maybe you should do the kdelibs fix and see if it has anything to
  | do
  |  with the update tool (unless you already have)?
  |  
  |  If you have a 486-style system, rpm (which is used by both Mandrake Update
  | and
  |  Kpackage) will by default refuse to install 586 packages on a 486 machine.
  |  Axilon was gracious enough to give me the hack for the rpmrc file - BTW
  | Thanks
  |  AX! - located on my system at /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc. Edit the file with your
  |  favorite text editor, and modify the three related lines to match as below:
  |  
  |arch_compat: i486: i386 i586
  |arch_compat:  osfmach3_i486: i386 osfmach3_i586
  |buildarch_compat: i486: i386 i586
  |  
  |  I cannot remember what information was in these lines prior to the hack, but
  | I
  |  added (I think the i486) stuff to each line.
  |  
  |  I also modified my kdelinks for Kpackage and Mandrake Update in my normal
  | user
  |  desktop so I could run them as if I was a superuser. I added "kdesu -c "
  |  (without the quotes) to the front of the command lines in the Execute tab of
  | the
  |  properties box for each link. Now Mandrake Update, RPM, and Kpackage all
  | work as
  |  intended for me.
  |  
  |  Before the rpmrc hack, Mandrake Update would download the RPM's, then tell
  | me
  |  that the packages were for a diferent architecture in an error box, and not
  |  install anything. After hacking rpmrc, I was able to remove the kcmclock
  |  package, which permitted me to fix kdelibs by installing the package
  | (Kpackage
  |  reported that kdelibs was not installed) from the CD, and get all available
  |  updates installed with Mandrake Update. Since these changes, I have not
  | found
  |  anything which will not work on my system. I hope there is something in
  | here
  |  which will be of help for you,
  |  
  |  Ernie
  |  
  |  
  |  On Wed, 27 Oct 1999,Rick Murphy wrote:
  || Since re-installing Mandrake 6.1 I have a problem using the mandrake
  | update
  || program.  It will call up the updates but after I sign in as root it
  | will not
  || download and update the files.  Is there something I didn't install when
  | I
  || re-installed mandrake?
  || 
  || Rick
  || 
  || 
  || -- 
  || "I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB
  | 
  | 
  | 
  | Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at 
http://webmail.netscape.com.



Re: [Re: [newbie] Hmmm, update downloads wont work]

1999-10-28 Thread Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999,Singer XJ Wang wrote:
  | Does Mandrake actually work with an 486/
  | 

Yes it does! I installed both Mandrake 6.0 then 6.1 (both are Macmillan
releases) without any hitches. Of course, my CPU is an AMD x5-133 and this may
not exactly be a 486, but it is on a 486-style board, and all works well, just
not with blinding speed.

Ernie


  | On 27 Oct 1999, Jaguar wrote:
  | 
  |  FYI
  |  When I first got L-M 6.0 home, and installed it...it was to an AST 486 - 66,
  |  with 16 MB Ram.  It installed perfectly ie: no conflicts with CPU, but was
  |  extremely S L O W...:(
  |  I have since put L-M on a Cyrix GM 233 Pentium system with 32 MB Ram, same
  |  install...but much faster.
  |  Jaguar
  |  
  |  "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  |   Rick,
  |   
  |   I had a variety of seemingly unrelated problems when I did the update from
  |   Mandrake 6.0 to 6.1. Most if not all of them were fixed when I removed the
  |   kcmclock package, and reinstalled the kdelibs package. I also did some
  |  changes
  |   to my rpmrc file, to let rpm install the Mandrake packages on my old
  |  486-style
  |   system. Maybe you should do the kdelibs fix and see if it has anything to
  |  do
  |   with the update tool (unless you already have)?
  |   
  |   If you have a 486-style system, rpm (which is used by both Mandrake Update
  |  and
  |   Kpackage) will by default refuse to install 586 packages on a 486 machine.
  |   Axilon was gracious enough to give me the hack for the rpmrc file - BTW
  |  Thanks
  |   AX! - located on my system at /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc. Edit the file with your
  |   favorite text editor, and modify the three related lines to match as below:
  |   
  |   arch_compat: i486: i386 i586
  |   arch_compat:  osfmach3_i486: i386 osfmach3_i586
  |   buildarch_compat: i486: i386 i586
  |   
  |   I cannot remember what information was in these lines prior to the hack, but
  |  I
  |   added (I think the i486) stuff to each line.
  |   
  |   I also modified my kdelinks for Kpackage and Mandrake Update in my normal
  |  user
  |   desktop so I could run them as if I was a superuser. I added "kdesu -c "
  |   (without the quotes) to the front of the command lines in the Execute tab of
  |  the
  |   properties box for each link. Now Mandrake Update, RPM, and Kpackage all
  |  work as
  |   intended for me.
  |   
  |   Before the rpmrc hack, Mandrake Update would download the RPM's, then tell
  |  me
  |   that the packages were for a diferent architecture in an error box, and not
  |   install anything. After hacking rpmrc, I was able to remove the kcmclock
  |   package, which permitted me to fix kdelibs by installing the package
  |  (Kpackage
  |   reported that kdelibs was not installed) from the CD, and get all available
  |   updates installed with Mandrake Update. Since these changes, I have not
  |  found
  |   anything which will not work on my system. I hope there is something in
  |  here
  |   which will be of help for you,
  |   
  |   Ernie
  |   
  |   
  |   On Wed, 27 Oct 1999,Rick Murphy wrote:
  | | Since re-installing Mandrake 6.1 I have a problem using the mandrake
  |  update
  | | program.  It will call up the updates but after I sign in as root it
  |  will not
  | | download and update the files.  Is there something I didn't install when
  |  I
  | | re-installed mandrake?
  | | 
  | | Rick
  | | 
  | | 
  | | -- 
  | | "I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB
  |  
  |  
  |  
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Re: [newbie] Hmmm, update downloads won't work

1999-10-28 Thread ajackman

Is there a way to do the auto-update with 6.0?

--Drew Jackman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 20177604

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Bill Munden wrote:
  Are you signing in as root from within a user account that you created?  I
  did and was having the same problem.  I exited my user account and logged
  back in as "strictly root."  I was then able to install the updates.
  
  -Bill
 
 Thanks Bills, that did the trick.  I wonder what the problem is with local user.
 
 Rick
 
 -- 
 "I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB



[newbie] Hmmm, update downloads won't work

1999-10-27 Thread Rick Murphy

Since re-installing Mandrake 6.1 I have a problem using the mandrake update
program.  It will call up the updates but after I sign in as root it will not
download and update the files.  Is there something I didn't install when I
re-installed mandrake?

Rick


-- 
"I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB



Re: [newbie] Hmmm, update downloads won't work

1999-10-27 Thread Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.

Rick,

I had a variety of seemingly unrelated problems when I did the update from
Mandrake 6.0 to 6.1. Most if not all of them were fixed when I removed the
kcmclock package, and reinstalled the kdelibs package. I also did some changes
to my rpmrc file, to let rpm install the Mandrake packages on my old 486-style
system. Maybe you should do the kdelibs fix and see if it has anything to do
with the update tool (unless you already have)?

If you have a 486-style system, rpm (which is used by both Mandrake Update and
Kpackage) will by default refuse to install 586 packages on a 486 machine.
Axilon was gracious enough to give me the hack for the rpmrc file - BTW Thanks
AX! - located on my system at /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc. Edit the file with your
favorite text editor, and modify the three related lines to match as below:

arch_compat: i486: i386 i586
arch_compat:  osfmach3_i486: i386 osfmach3_i586
buildarch_compat: i486: i386 i586

I cannot remember what information was in these lines prior to the hack, but I
added (I think the i486) stuff to each line.

I also modified my kdelinks for Kpackage and Mandrake Update in my normal user
desktop so I could run them as if I was a superuser. I added "kdesu -c "
(without the quotes) to the front of the command lines in the Execute tab of the
properties box for each link. Now Mandrake Update, RPM, and Kpackage all work as
intended for me.

Before the rpmrc hack, Mandrake Update would download the RPM's, then tell me
that the packages were for a diferent architecture in an error box, and not
install anything. After hacking rpmrc, I was able to remove the kcmclock
package, which permitted me to fix kdelibs by installing the package (Kpackage
reported that kdelibs was not installed) from the CD, and get all available
updates installed with Mandrake Update. Since these changes, I have not found
anything which will not work on my system. I hope there is something in here
which will be of help for you,

Ernie


On Wed, 27 Oct 1999,Rick Murphy wrote:
  | Since re-installing Mandrake 6.1 I have a problem using the mandrake update
  | program.  It will call up the updates but after I sign in as root it will not
  | download and update the files.  Is there something I didn't install when I
  | re-installed mandrake?
  | 
  | Rick
  | 
  | 
  | -- 
  | "I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB



Re: [newbie] Hmmm, update downloads won't work

1999-10-27 Thread Bill Munden

Are you signing in as root from within a user account that you created?  I
did and was having the same problem.  I exited my user account and logged
back in as "strictly root."  I was then able to install the updates.

-Bill


- Original Message -
From: Rick Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 3:51 AM
Subject: [newbie] Hmmm, update downloads won't work


 Since re-installing Mandrake 6.1 I have a problem using the mandrake
update
 program.  It will call up the updates but after I sign in as root it will
not
 download and update the files.  Is there something I didn't install when I
 re-installed mandrake?

 Rick


 --
 "I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB




Re: [Re: [newbie] Hmmm, update downloads wont work]

1999-10-27 Thread Singer XJ Wang


Does Mandrake actually work with an 486/

On 27 Oct 1999, Jaguar wrote:

 FYI
 When I first got L-M 6.0 home, and installed it...it was to an AST 486 - 66,
 with 16 MB Ram.  It installed perfectly ie: no conflicts with CPU, but was
 extremely S L O W...:(
 I have since put L-M on a Cyrix GM 233 Pentium system with 32 MB Ram, same
 install...but much faster.
 Jaguar
 
 "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Rick,
  
  I had a variety of seemingly unrelated problems when I did the update from
  Mandrake 6.0 to 6.1. Most if not all of them were fixed when I removed the
  kcmclock package, and reinstalled the kdelibs package. I also did some
 changes
  to my rpmrc file, to let rpm install the Mandrake packages on my old
 486-style
  system. Maybe you should do the kdelibs fix and see if it has anything to
 do
  with the update tool (unless you already have)?
  
  If you have a 486-style system, rpm (which is used by both Mandrake Update
 and
  Kpackage) will by default refuse to install 586 packages on a 486 machine.
  Axilon was gracious enough to give me the hack for the rpmrc file - BTW
 Thanks
  AX! - located on my system at /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc. Edit the file with your
  favorite text editor, and modify the three related lines to match as below:
  
  arch_compat: i486: i386 i586
  arch_compat:  osfmach3_i486: i386 osfmach3_i586
  buildarch_compat: i486: i386 i586
  
  I cannot remember what information was in these lines prior to the hack, but
 I
  added (I think the i486) stuff to each line.
  
  I also modified my kdelinks for Kpackage and Mandrake Update in my normal
 user
  desktop so I could run them as if I was a superuser. I added "kdesu -c "
  (without the quotes) to the front of the command lines in the Execute tab of
 the
  properties box for each link. Now Mandrake Update, RPM, and Kpackage all
 work as
  intended for me.
  
  Before the rpmrc hack, Mandrake Update would download the RPM's, then tell
 me
  that the packages were for a diferent architecture in an error box, and not
  install anything. After hacking rpmrc, I was able to remove the kcmclock
  package, which permitted me to fix kdelibs by installing the package
 (Kpackage
  reported that kdelibs was not installed) from the CD, and get all available
  updates installed with Mandrake Update. Since these changes, I have not
 found
  anything which will not work on my system. I hope there is something in
 here
  which will be of help for you,
  
  Ernie
  
  
  On Wed, 27 Oct 1999,Rick Murphy wrote:
| Since re-installing Mandrake 6.1 I have a problem using the mandrake
 update
| program.  It will call up the updates but after I sign in as root it
 will not
| download and update the files.  Is there something I didn't install when
 I
| re-installed mandrake?
| 
| Rick
| 
| 
| -- 
| "I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB
 
 
 
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