Re: [newbie] Honest opinions on Linux
Theres no better time than now to get on the Linux Bandwagon I think. The Earlier you understand linux the better off you'll be when later versions come around..
Re: [newbie] Honest opinions on Linux
IMNSHO, he is asking a good question! First a word about the BeOS. Save your money at least untul release 5 (better even 6). I run version 4.5-1 but I would not buy it again, because there are no apps that Windows or Linux dont have. Linux is the OS of the future. For a casual computer user however, it is next to impossible to manage. As of yet, a practical manual does not exist. (This is the only weakness). If you can not download it for free, maybe wait for another year. You will save a lot of time and frustration. Maybe after Corel releases their planed distro things might change, but I would not count on them. Win98 or a Mac are the best bet for the average user. I work in the audio recordig industry and could not do my job without Microsoft or Apple. Having sayed all that I want you all to know that I hate Microsoft with a passion, but the worst is over. Thank god, becase the past ten years have been hell! Via Magna ps: Do your hands a favor, learn the Dvorak layout. IMNSHO, that is exactly the wrong reason to switch to Linux (or Be, or FreeBSD, or any other OS). If you want a desktop OS that works like Win98 but is non-Microsoft, maybe MacOS or BeOS would be better for you. If you want to work (or play) with a powerful, flexible, open system, where you can, with enough study, find out exactly what makes it tick, Linux is great--but it isn't Windows, and it never will be.
Re: [newbie] Honest opinions on Linux
Well, Mr Gates is not my *only* reason for switching, thank you. I'm planning on diving into C/C++ and the openness of this OS makes it a great place to experiment. Next time I'll keep the personal details to myself and stick to the questions. T Dan Brown wrote: From: Toby Sheets [EMAIL PROTECTED] to running this OS rather than a Windows 98 system? Believe me I hate Bill Gates and will be happy when he folds - that is why I am switching to Linux - but is there really an advantage at this point in the game or IMNSHO, that is exactly the wrong reason to switch to Linux (or Be, or FreeBSD, or any other OS). If you want a desktop OS that works like Win98 but is non-Microsoft, maybe MacOS or BeOS would be better for you. If you want to work (or play) with a powerful, flexible, open system, where you can, with enough study, find out exactly what makes it tick, Linux is great--but it isn't Windows, and it never will be.
Re: [newbie] Honest opinions on Linux
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, you wrote: New guy here again: It seems the Linux OS is very complex so far. What is the true advantage to running this OS rather than a Windows 98 system? Believe me I hate Bill Gates and will be happy when he folds - that is why I am switching to Linux - but is there really an advantage at this point in the game or should people wait another few years until the hard parts have been made easy for the common man with GUI's and such? My feeling about the BEST reason to switch is the following: When an app crashes in Windows, the whole O/S crashes along with it to some extent. When an app crashes in Linux, only in rare circumstances will it cause the O/S to crash. Even when Linux becomes unstable due to an app crashing, you can USUALLY just kill the offending app and Linux will become stable again, and if not, you can at least shut down cleanly and reboot (making sure NOT to start up the offending app until you know what you did wrong G) John
Re: [newbie] Honest opinions on Linux
John Aldrich wrote: On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, you wrote: New guy here again: It seems the Linux OS is very complex so far. What is the true advantage to running this OS rather than a Windows 98 system? Believe me I hate Bill Gates and will be happy when he folds - that is why I am switching to Linux - but is there really an advantage at this point in the game or should people wait another few years until the hard parts have been made easy for the common man with GUI's and such? My feeling about the BEST reason to switch is the following: When an app crashes in Windows, the whole O/S crashes along with it to some extent. When an app crashes in Linux, only in rare circumstances will it cause the O/S to crash. Even when Linux becomes unstable due to an app crashing, you can USUALLY just kill the offending app and Linux will become stable again, and if not, you can at least shut down cleanly and reboot (making sure NOT to start up the offending app until you know what you did wrong G) John A nice example of this happened to me last night. I've got a glitchy video card that I can't afford to replace just yet. It causes problems in Windows, and even Linux occasionally. Last night it locked up KDE to the point that keyboard input was dead. I telnetted across from my server, 'su'd to root, and successfully rebooted the machine (I couldn't seem to kill all of the X-Windows processes because some had '?' where the pid# should have been). Now, what I'm suspecting is happening with the video card is that it's overheating (lousy air circulation in an over-packed case), and when I try to kill X with the ctrlaltbackspace trick, it hangs because it can't get the video card back into a known state. The short of it is, I would have just had to hard boot the machine if I'd been running windows at the time. - Theo
Re: [newbie] Honest opinions on Linux
From: Toby Sheets [EMAIL PROTECTED] to running this OS rather than a Windows 98 system? Believe me I hate Bill Gates and will be happy when he folds - that is why I am switching to Linux - but is there really an advantage at this point in the game or IMNSHO, that is exactly the wrong reason to switch to Linux (or Be, or FreeBSD, or any other OS). If you want a desktop OS that works like Win98 but is non-Microsoft, maybe MacOS or BeOS would be better for you. If you want to work (or play) with a powerful, flexible, open system, where you can, with enough study, find out exactly what makes it tick, Linux is great--but it isn't Windows, and it never will be.
RE: [newbie] Honest opinions on Linux
It is getting better but don't wait for a Bill-One-Size-Fits-All-As-Long-As-It's-Mine type of solution. Linux is primarily for people who a) don't like funnelling more billions into some commercial venture, be it Microsoft or any of the commercial Unix systems, and/or b) are tired of somebody else's idea of what they think they might want out of system and who want to exercise some, if not all (see Facist Administrator's in the upcoming sequel), control over their computing environment. All that said, don't let this scare you away from Linux. Be aware, however, that it is a get your hands dirty type of operating system if you really want to realize its full power. If you are in any way shy about having to scrub under your fingernails, Linux is not for you. If, on the other hand ..., dig in and learn along with the rest of us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Toby Sheets Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 12:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Honest opinions on Linux New guy here again: It seems the Linux OS is very complex so far. What is the true advantage to running this OS rather than a Windows 98 system? Believe me I hate Bill Gates and will be happy when he folds - that is why I am switching to Linux - but is there really an advantage at this point in the game or should people wait another few years until the hard parts have been made easy for the common man with GUI's and such? Just curious, Toby alann wrote: John May wrote: I need more of an opinion on this one. I am getting a new 3D graphics card and I was wanting to know how well the 3dfx VooDoo Banshee chip workes with Xwindows. I am considering, in particular, the Diamond Monster Fusion. Has anybody had any experience with this card? I would appreciate any info. Thanks I'm running the CL SB Voodoo Banshee. I was running some 3rd party drivers for a while.. They worked, but it seemed to be 800x600.. CL has a driver on thier site ( I'm assuming this will work with your card ). Under support, then drivers.. This latest driver works great.. Running 1280x1024 I think. DLOAD THE DRIVER before you install. My desktop ( KDE ) came up in like 300x240 or something. I couldn't even see the desktop. Get the file, after install boot into runlevel 3. ( When it says Lilo boot: ) typelinux 3 This will give you command line. Login as root, find the file. Install. Shutdown. Reboot. Walla. Alan -- === [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Coming to you with Linux-Mandrake 6.0
Re: [newbie] Honest opinions on Linux
It seems the Linux OS is very complex so far. And what are you basing this on? What is the true advantage to running this OS rather than a Windows 98 system? Linux is far more stable, and you have the source code. It appears to be better supported, too. Does Microsoft have mailing lists that give out competent answers to Windows newbies? I've never heard of one. Believe me I hate Bill Gates and will be happy when he folds - that is why I am switching to Linux - but is there really an advantage at this point in the game or should people wait another few years until the hard parts have been made easy for the common man with GUI's and such? There already are GUIs and such. KDE is good, and Gnome looks nice.
