Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
Smiley wrote: Hi, I know this topic isn't exactly new :) but I need help in order to allow a friend of mine to get rid of W2000 :-D What I need is to know how he can resize (avoiding re-installation) of W2000 without losing any datas... I know diskdrake can't do that... So, any suggestion about Partition Magic or everything else? Smiley Partition Magic is the tool you need to use for re-sizing partitions without losing data. I highly recommend it to resize the Windows partitions, provided it is installed on Windows. I only have V5 which doesn't support anything past NT, but I think the new V7 supports Win 2000. HTH Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux W2000
I think that there are a few of us who had problems with PM products, myself included. The newer versions might be better, the proof is in the pudding though. Acronis on Mandrake is just demoware and does not write the info to disk once you have made the changes. The only safe route is to back-up the software and do what ever you feel comfortable with out of the suggestions put forward so far. Tony. -Original Message- From: Franki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 7:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux W2000 yeah, I'll agree with that.. I got Femmes copy myself... it sucks... It found errors on my NTFS install and just died.. said it couldn't help and exited.. Funny thing is winblows works fine... I used and old copy of ghost to move to a new drive and it got the size a tiny bit wrong.. PM6 could not fix it, so I deleted it.. no use for useless software.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FemmeFatale Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 3:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux W2000 At 10:41 AM 1/2/2003 +, you wrote: On Thursday 02 Jan 2003 12:05 am, Smiley wrote: On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:30:02 - Aurélio Diniz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smiley: Don't even think about resizing your win2k partition with diskdrake. It can mess up your win2k. I didn't :) I bought PM6, which is already unsupported by PowerQuest. I'm not certain, but I think it caused a number of problems for me. I would be very careful. The current version is 8.0, I understand. Get a total backup before you try anything like this. Good luck Anne I am with Anne here. PM Pissed me right off b/c less than 6 months after buying that POS they stopped supporting it. Needless to say I wasn't amused. On top of that I lost a lot of installs due to PM finding errors in the partition table. Fix them for you ? yes/no. Click yes, kiss goodbye your linux partition possibly your Winfucks partition depending on how PM feels that day. PM bites. Wnat my copy? You can have total craptastic performance with it too! - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
- Original Message - From: Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 2:30 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux W2000 partitions, provided it is installed on Windows. I only have V5 which doesn't support anything past NT, but I think the new V7 supports Win 2000. I've actually used PM5 to resize Win2K (and Linux) partitions several times without any issues. I have SCSI, don't know if that makes any difference (referring to the people who have reported catastrophes with PM on this list.) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
In my case, has i said before, PM7 worked fine to make a new partition for my linux. But first you must do the following steps before using it: - Scandisk and Defrag - Backup all you important data (just in case) Ando go for it! The worst that can happen is that you'll have to reinstall your windows. :) But look at the good side: You'll have then a fresh new system. Um abraço, Filipe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
On Thursday 02 Jan 2003 12:05 am, Smiley wrote: On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:30:02 - Aurélio Diniz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smiley: Don't even think about resizing your win2k partition with diskdrake. It can mess up your win2k. I didn't :) I bought PM6, which is already unsupported by PowerQuest. I'm not certain, but I think it caused a number of problems for me. I would be very careful. The current version is 8.0, I understand. Get a total backup before you try anything like this. Good luck Anne I used partition magic 7 and all worked fine. I was reported PM 6 could mess all things up; if 7 is okay, good :-) Now I.m going to ask my friend if that's okay, so any other hint is welcome! Smiley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
Smiley wrote: Hi, I know this topic isn't exactly new :) but I need help in order to allow a friend of mine to get rid of W2000 :-D What I need is to know how he can resize (avoiding reinstallation) of W2000 without losing any datas... I know diskdrake can't do that... So, any suggestion about Partition Magic or everything else? Smiley Patition Magic versions 7 and 8 John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
Acronis It comes with the power pack 9.0 El Mié 01 Ene 2003 23:38, Smiley escribió: Hi, I know this topic isn't exactly new :) but I need help in order to allow a friend of mine to get rid of W2000 :-D What I need is to know how he can resize (avoiding reinstallation) of W2000 without losing any datas... I know diskdrake can't do that... So, any suggestion about Partition Magic or everything else? Smiley -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia Campus de Espinardo E-30100 Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
- Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux W2000 PM6 is no good for partitioning where the windblows made partitions will be remade for the purpose of linux installs, don't use it. John I just use PM5 to do exactly that and it worked fine. Had a large NTFS partition. Used PM5 to resize it down, then used PM5 to also create a Linux partition in the newly freed up space. Just lucky, I guess. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
Guy Rouillier wrote: - Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux W2000 PM6 is no good for partitioning where the windblows made partitions will be remade for the purpose of linux installs, don't use it. John I just use PM5 to do exactly that and it worked fine. Had a large NTFS partition. Used PM5 to resize it down, then used PM5 to also create a Linux partition in the newly freed up space. Just lucky, I guess. Yes, I've done as much myself, two things though, one, I think you will have problems later with the nature of the new partitions, and two, once a linux os is installed it doesn't properly recognise them for what they are, it recognises them as partitions but not as proper linux partitions. I remember V7 was the first to cope freely with ext2. I believe, perhaps someone can confirm it , that v8 can cope freely with the other file systems. I've been a PM user since v5 to 6 and now 7, and hope to obtain V8 sometime. It's still the best, and always provided that all partitioning is done with it, it works the best.It's friendly with windblows and linux. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
El mié, 01-01-2003 a las 16:38, Smiley escribió: What I need is to know how he can resize (avoiding reinstallation) of W2000 without losing any datas... FAT32 or NTFS? If the latter, I can't help you. But if the Win2K partition is FAT32, then try parted, available at Freshmeat or at: http://www.gnu.org/software/parted I used parted to shrink my Win95 partition and grow my Linux EXT2 partitions several times as I weaned myself from Windows. If you use the boot disk version, you can resize partions that are normally in use, like root and /home. It works, and the documentation is very newbie friendly. Highly recommended. -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras http://srcopan.vze.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
At 10:41 AM 1/2/2003 +, you wrote: On Thursday 02 Jan 2003 12:05 am, Smiley wrote: On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:30:02 - Aurélio Diniz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smiley: Don't even think about resizing your win2k partition with diskdrake. It can mess up your win2k. I didn't :) I bought PM6, which is already unsupported by PowerQuest. I'm not certain, but I think it caused a number of problems for me. I would be very careful. The current version is 8.0, I understand. Get a total backup before you try anything like this. Good luck Anne I am with Anne here. PM Pissed me right off b/c less than 6 months after buying that POS they stopped supporting it. Needless to say I wasn't amused. On top of that I lost a lot of installs due to PM finding errors in the partition table. Fix them for you ? yes/no. Click yes, kiss goodbye your linux partition possibly your Winfucks partition depending on how PM feels that day. PM bites. Wnat my copy? You can have total craptastic performance with it too! - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux W2000
yeah, I'll agree with that.. I got Femmes copy myself... it sucks... It found errors on my NTFS install and just died.. said it couldn't help and exited.. Funny thing is winblows works fine... I used and old copy of ghost to move to a new drive and it got the size a tiny bit wrong.. PM6 could not fix it, so I deleted it.. no use for useless software.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FemmeFatale Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 3:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux W2000 At 10:41 AM 1/2/2003 +, you wrote: On Thursday 02 Jan 2003 12:05 am, Smiley wrote: On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:30:02 - Aurélio Diniz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smiley: Don't even think about resizing your win2k partition with diskdrake. It can mess up your win2k. I didn't :) I bought PM6, which is already unsupported by PowerQuest. I'm not certain, but I think it caused a number of problems for me. I would be very careful. The current version is 8.0, I understand. Get a total backup before you try anything like this. Good luck Anne I am with Anne here. PM Pissed me right off b/c less than 6 months after buying that POS they stopped supporting it. Needless to say I wasn't amused. On top of that I lost a lot of installs due to PM finding errors in the partition table. Fix them for you ? yes/no. Click yes, kiss goodbye your linux partition possibly your Winfucks partition depending on how PM feels that day. PM bites. Wnat my copy? You can have total craptastic performance with it too! - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
On Wednesday 01 January 2003 05:38 pm, you wrote: Hi, I know this topic isn't exactly new :) but I need help in order to allow a friend of mine to get rid of W2000 :-D What I need is to know how he can resize (avoiding reinstallation) of W2000 without losing any datas... I know diskdrake can't do that... So, any suggestion about Partition Magic or everything else? Smiley When I used to dual boot I resized my Windows partition with the Mandrake installation process with no problem.So I think diskdrake will resize the partition.Happy Computing. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Michael Shinobi a.k.a. 'alfalfa' Mandrake 8.2 Kernel-2.4.18-8.1mdk Linux user #298896 Wed Jan 1 18:06:34 EST 2003 6:06pm up 20:15, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.07, 0.03 Homepage: http://micronuke.tripod.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Human kind cannot bear very much reality. -- T.S. Eliot, Four Quartets: Burnt Norton Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
Smiley: Don't even think about resizing your win2k partition with diskdrake. It can mess up your win2k. I used partition magic 7 and all worked fine. good luck filipe dinis - Original Message - From: Smiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:38 PM Subject: [newbie] Linux W2000 Hi, I know this topic isn't exactly new :) but I need help in order to allow a friend of mine to get rid of W2000 :-D What I need is to know how he can resize (avoiding reinstallation) of W2000 without losing any datas... I know diskdrake can't do that... So, any suggestion about Partition Magic or everything else? Smiley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:30:02 - Aurélio Diniz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smiley: Don't even think about resizing your win2k partition with diskdrake. It can mess up your win2k. I didn't :) I used partition magic 7 and all worked fine. I was reported PM 6 could mess all things up; if 7 is okay, good :-) Now I.m going to ask my friend if that's okay, so any other hint is welcome! Smiley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux W2000
Just back up any data you need and just start over again..I've had nothing but trouble with partition magic and resizing partitions without loosing data. walt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Smiley Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 7:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux W2000 On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:30:02 - Aurélio Diniz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smiley: Don't even think about resizing your win2k partition with diskdrake. It can mess up your win2k. I didn't :) I used partition magic 7 and all worked fine. I was reported PM 6 could mess all things up; if 7 is okay, good :-) Now I.m going to ask my friend if that's okay, so any other hint is welcome! Smiley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux W2000
The installation partition utility has worked for me in the past. Back up your data and give it a try. If it fails, well, rebuilding a box is half the fun anyway (that's how I rationalize it) A. Contreras My CR website: http://www.elnonio.dns04.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of walt Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 6:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Linux W2000 Just back up any data you need and just start over again..I've had nothing but trouble with partition magic and resizing partitions without loosing data. walt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Smiley Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 7:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux W2000 On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:30:02 - Aurélio Diniz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smiley: Don't even think about resizing your win2k partition with diskdrake. It can mess up your win2k. I didn't :) I used partition magic 7 and all worked fine. I was reported PM 6 could mess all things up; if 7 is okay, good :-) Now I.m going to ask my friend if that's okay, so any other hint is welcome! Smiley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
At 11:38 PM 1/1/2003 +0100, you wrote: Hi, I know this topic isn't exactly new :) but I need help in order to allow a friend of mine to get rid of W2000 :-D What I need is to know how he can resize (avoiding reinstallation) of W2000 without losing any datas... I know diskdrake can't do that... So, any suggestion about Partition Magic or everything else? Smiley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com PM Is the only way. Least that I found. I'm not willing to fuck wiht the Ranish partitioner. It sucks...but what can you do. - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
On Wednesday 01 January 2003 03:30 pm, you wrote: Smiley: Don't even think about resizing your win2k partition with diskdrake. It can mess up your win2k. I used partition magic 7 and all worked fine. It is o.k. to use diskdrake IF the W2k partition is FAT. If it is NTFS you shouldn't try it. Partition Magic will work, but it will only do ext2, and be careful--it can mess up your partition table (for sure--it has happened to me). Never use Partition Magic and then allow DiskDrake to change any partiton sizing, do any formatting, etc. If you use Part Magic, do everything with it, including assigning the /, swap and /home. Then just point DiskDrake at the pre-made partitions during the install. e. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 17:05:05 -0800 erylon hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is o.k. to use diskdrake IF the W2k partition is FAT. If it is NTFS you shouldn't try it. Uhm... I was just told diskdrake can resize ntfs partition, but can't move datas; so defragging on W2000 and being sure how much space does the os really takes on the partition could do the trick... do you know if that way could do the trick...? Smiley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 19:05, erylon hines wrote: snip previous-reply It is o.k. to use diskdrake IF the W2k partition is FAT. If it is NTFS you shouldn't try it. Partition Magic will work, but it will only do ext2, and be careful--it can mess up your partition table (for sure--it has happened to me). Never use Partition Magic and then allow DiskDrake to change any partiton sizing, do any formatting, etc. If you use Part Magic, do everything with it, including assigning the /, swap and /home. Then just point DiskDrake at the pre-made partitions during the install. /snip Why is that? I've used PM for years with my Linux installs, and all I do is resize the FAT32/NTFS partition(s), and then create the *nix partitions with the DiskDrake, cfdisk, et al. Never had a problem with it. The *onl* PM problems I've ever encountered was when I was running XP, and ran the program from inside XP, and it rebooted to do the actual resizing.. but if I use the rescue disks to do the resizing, I never have a problem. -- Chuck Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux W2000
On Wednesday 01 January 2003 06:05 pm, you wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 19:05, erylon hines wrote: snip previous-reply I've used PM for years with my Linux installs, and all I do is resize the FAT32/NTFS partition(s), and then create the *nix partitions with the DiskDrake, cfdisk, et al. Never had a problem with it. The *onl* PM problems I've ever encountered was when I was running XP, and ran the program from inside XP, and it rebooted to do the actual resizing.. but if I use the rescue disks to do the resizing, I never have a problem. -- Chuck At least twice, I've had partition table errors after using DiskDrake on partitions created by PM. It appears that there is some slight incompatibility between the way PM creates partionions and DiskDrake. Most of the time everything works the way it should, but occasionally the table gets hosed. If you just resize your Windows partitions and then use the free space, this might not happen (I don't know). But, don't create linux partitions with PM and then re-allocate the space within them with DiskDrake. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that point. e. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
