Re: [newbie] Linux and power on notebook?

2004-03-12 Thread rhein


Thank you!
It works now and I can see my battery level, the notebook is closing 
without pressing the power button and my fan is not running all the time...
But when I click on the config panel of Klaptop I have this setup ACPI 
button. What is it for?
Shall I use it? (sorry but there is no help on this panel)
Thank you
Christophe


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Re: [newbie] Linux and power on notebook?

2004-03-11 Thread rhein
Hello,
I did what you said and the computer started but no power indicator... 
When I go to the config panel I have still the message telling me to 
install the acpi soft.
I checked again the installation and it is installed.
The lilo config file has the nolapic written in it.
So what did I wrong?
Thanks
Christophe

Marc Resnick wrote:

rhein wrote:

Marc when you say replace 'acpi=ht' by 'nolapic'. Do you want me to 
replace 'acpi=ht' by 'nolapic' or do you want me to type 'acpi=nolapic'?
Sorry but I'm starting! :-[
Thanks
Christophe
ps: in my config file there are 3 lines with this acpi, I suppose I 
change all of them?
ps2: What shall I do if the computer is not stating again like last 
night :-( ?

Marc Resnick wrote:

rhein wrote:

First, download the packages acpi and acpid. Then, go into Control 
Center and Boot Options. Find your default image, and click modify. 
In the append line make sure it DOESN'T say 'acpi=off' or 'acpi=ht', 
and make sure it does say 'nolapic'. Then, reboot, and you should 
have your battery monitor in the system tray. If it still doesn't 
want to work, reply and we'll diagnose the problem.

--Marc

 

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No problem Christophe.

Just take out 'acpi=ht' and add 'nolapic'. If you don't add 'nolapic' 
your laptop will bomb out on boot.

For the config file(lilo, i guess you mean) change all of them, just 
in case.

If your computer doesn't boot, press esc at the bootscreen, and type 
nameofbootchoice acpi=off

nameofbootchoice should be whatever choice you normally boot (i.e. linux)

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Re: [newbie] Linux and power on notebook?

2004-03-11 Thread Marc Resnick
rhein wrote:

Hello,
I did what you said and the computer started but no power indicator... 
When I go to the config panel I have still the message telling me to 
install the acpi soft.
I checked again the installation and it is installed.
The lilo config file has the nolapic written in it.
So what did I wrong?
Thanks
Christophe

Marc Resnick wrote:

rhein wrote:

Marc when you say replace 'acpi=ht' by 'nolapic'. Do you want me to 
replace 'acpi=ht' by 'nolapic' or do you want me to type 
'acpi=nolapic'?
Sorry but I'm starting! :-[
Thanks
Christophe
ps: in my config file there are 3 lines with this acpi, I suppose I 
change all of them?
ps2: What shall I do if the computer is not stating again like last 
night :-( ?

Marc Resnick wrote:

rhein wrote:

First, download the packages acpi and acpid. Then, go into Control 
Center and Boot Options. Find your default image, and click modify. 
In the append line make sure it DOESN'T say 'acpi=off' or 
'acpi=ht', and make sure it does say 'nolapic'. Then, reboot, and 
you should have your battery monitor in the system tray. If it 
still doesn't want to work, reply and we'll diagnose the problem.

--Marc

 

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No problem Christophe.

Just take out 'acpi=ht' and add 'nolapic'. If you don't add 'nolapic' 
your laptop will bomb out on boot.

For the config file(lilo, i guess you mean) change all of them, just 
in case.

If your computer doesn't boot, press esc at the bootscreen, and type 
nameofbootchoice acpi=off

nameofbootchoice should be whatever choice you normally boot (i.e. 
linux)

--Marc



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Try going to Mandrake Control Center, System, Services. That's what it 
is in MDK10 at least. Anyway, go to services, and find acpid. Check if 
'on boot' is checked off. If not, check it. Then reboot.

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Re: [newbie] Linux and power on notebook?

2004-03-11 Thread rhein
Ok now I have the the laptop power management icon on the right site of 
my panel but...
it sais Laptop power management not available.
When I open it I have this written
Your computer doesn't have the Linux APM (Advanced Power Management) or 
ACPI software installed, or doesn't have the APM kernel drivers 
installed - check out the Linux Laptop-HOWTO document for information on 
how to install APM.
How can I verify that ACPI or APM is running? (RPMdrake tells me it is 
installed)
Thanks for your time
Christophe

Marc Resnick wrote:

rhein wrote:

Hello,
I did what you said and the computer started but no power 
indicator... When I go to the config panel I have still the message 
telling me to install the acpi soft.
I checked again the installation and it is installed.
The lilo config file has the nolapic written in it.
So what did I wrong?
Thanks
Christophe

Marc Resnick wrote:

rhein wrote:

Marc when you say replace 'acpi=ht' by 'nolapic'. Do you want me to 
replace 'acpi=ht' by 'nolapic' or do you want me to type 
'acpi=nolapic'?
Sorry but I'm starting! :-[
Thanks
Christophe
ps: in my config file there are 3 lines with this acpi, I suppose I 
change all of them?
ps2: What shall I do if the computer is not stating again like last 
night :-( ?

Marc Resnick wrote:

rhein wrote:

First, download the packages acpi and acpid. Then, go into Control 
Center and Boot Options. Find your default image, and click 
modify. In the append line make sure it DOESN'T say 'acpi=off' or 
'acpi=ht', and make sure it does say 'nolapic'. Then, reboot, and 
you should have your battery monitor in the system tray. If it 
still doesn't want to work, reply and we'll diagnose the problem.

--Marc

 

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http://www.mandrakestore.com
 

 

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No problem Christophe.

Just take out 'acpi=ht' and add 'nolapic'. If you don't add 
'nolapic' your laptop will bomb out on boot.

For the config file(lilo, i guess you mean) change all of them, just 
in case.

If your computer doesn't boot, press esc at the bootscreen, and type 
nameofbootchoice acpi=off

nameofbootchoice should be whatever choice you normally boot (i.e. 
linux)

--Marc

 

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Try going to Mandrake Control Center, System, Services. That's what it 
is in MDK10 at least. Anyway, go to services, and find acpid. Check if 
'on boot' is checked off. If not, check it. Then reboot.

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Re: [newbie] Linux and power on notebook?

2004-03-11 Thread rhein
Keith wrote:

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, rhein wrote:

 

Ok now I have the the laptop power management icon on the right site of
my panel but...
it sais Laptop power management not available.
When I open it I have this written
Your computer doesn't have the Linux APM (Advanced Power Management) or
ACPI software installed, or doesn't have the APM kernel drivers
installed - check out the Linux Laptop-HOWTO document for information on
how to install APM.
How can I verify that ACPI or APM is running? (RPMdrake tells me it is
installed)
Thanks for your time
Christophe
   

Most likely this is a runtime service. Check your sys v editor
for the modules.
 

Like I said the 2 packages are installed but maybe not running...
What do you mean by 

Most likely this is a runtime service. Check your sys v editor
for the modules.
Could you explain to a beginner like me what to do? :-)
Thanks
Christophe

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Re: [newbie] Linux and power on notebook?

2004-03-10 Thread rhein
Hello,
The 2 packages where installed... So I went to the bootloader main 
options in drakboot and clicked and enabled the enable ACPI (there is 
also a Force No Apic that I do not know I live it...)
I restart the computer... and it hangs... no solution I reboot... and 
again until I unchecked the ACPI at start.
So I'm still at the same point...
No battery control.
Is there a way to run on battery and not on beer :-) ?
Thanks
Christophe

Marc Resnick wrote:

rhein wrote:

Hello,
That's now the second time that my notebook shuts down because I'm 
not able to see the level of my battery. Good thing I didn't have to 
start all over because I saved my work a few minutes before.
Is there a way to have the battery indicator under MDK 9.2? (by the 
way I think the battery goes faster then with XP...??)
Also when I'm working the fan is running more often then with XP. Is 
there something to modify?
Thanks
Christophe
ps: I have a Compaq nx9005



Where there's a will, there's a way.

First, download the packages acpi and acpid. Then, go into Control 
Center and Boot Options. Find your default image, and click modify. In 
the append line make sure it DOESN'T say 'acpi=off' or 'acpi=ht', and 
make sure it does say 'nolapic'. Then, reboot, and you should have 
your battery monitor in the system tray. If it still doesn't want to 
work, reply and we'll diagnose the problem.

--Marc



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Re: [newbie] Linux and power on notebook?

2004-03-10 Thread rhein
Marc when you say replace 'acpi=ht' by 'nolapic'. Do you want me to 
replace 'acpi=ht' by 'nolapic' or do you want me to type 'acpi=nolapic'?
Sorry but I'm starting! :-[
Thanks
Christophe
ps: in my config file there are 3 lines with this acpi, I suppose I 
change all of them?
ps2: What shall I do if the computer is not stating again like last 
night :-( ?

Marc Resnick wrote:

rhein wrote:

First, download the packages acpi and acpid. Then, go into Control 
Center and Boot Options. Find your default image, and click modify. In 
the append line make sure it DOESN'T say 'acpi=off' or 'acpi=ht', and 
make sure it does say 'nolapic'. Then, reboot, and you should have 
your battery monitor in the system tray. If it still doesn't want to 
work, reply and we'll diagnose the problem.

--Marc



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Re: [newbie] Linux and power on notebook?

2004-03-10 Thread Marc Resnick
rhein wrote:

Marc when you say replace 'acpi=ht' by 'nolapic'. Do you want me to 
replace 'acpi=ht' by 'nolapic' or do you want me to type 'acpi=nolapic'?
Sorry but I'm starting! :-[
Thanks
Christophe
ps: in my config file there are 3 lines with this acpi, I suppose I 
change all of them?
ps2: What shall I do if the computer is not stating again like last 
night :-( ?

Marc Resnick wrote:

rhein wrote:

First, download the packages acpi and acpid. Then, go into Control 
Center and Boot Options. Find your default image, and click modify. 
In the append line make sure it DOESN'T say 'acpi=off' or 'acpi=ht', 
and make sure it does say 'nolapic'. Then, reboot, and you should 
have your battery monitor in the system tray. If it still doesn't 
want to work, reply and we'll diagnose the problem.

--Marc



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No problem Christophe.

Just take out 'acpi=ht' and add 'nolapic'. If you don't add 'nolapic' 
your laptop will bomb out on boot.

For the config file(lilo, i guess you mean) change all of them, just in 
case.

If your computer doesn't boot, press esc at the bootscreen, and type 
nameofbootchoice acpi=off

nameofbootchoice should be whatever choice you normally boot (i.e. linux)

--Marc

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[newbie] Linux and power on notebook?

2004-03-09 Thread rhein
Hello,
That's now the second time that my notebook shuts down because I'm not 
able to see the level of my battery. Good thing I didn't have to start 
all over because I saved my work a few minutes before.
Is there a way to have the battery indicator under MDK 9.2? (by the way 
I think the battery goes faster then with XP...??)
Also when I'm working the fan is running more often then with XP. Is 
there something to modify?
Thanks
Christophe
ps: I have a Compaq nx9005



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Re: [newbie] Linux and power on notebook?

2004-03-09 Thread Mark Kirschner
On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 19:26:00 -0500
rhein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 That's now the second time that my notebook shuts down
 because I'm not able to see the level of my battery. Good
 thing I didn't have to start all over because I saved my
 work a few minutes before. Is there a way to have the
 battery indicator under MDK 9.2? (by the way I think the
 battery goes faster then with XP...??) Also when I'm
 working the fan is running more often then with XP. Is
 there something to modify? Thanks
 Christophe
 ps: I have a Compaq nx9005


Christophe,

I'm only running 9.1, so I'm not sure how relevant it is to
your situation.  I have the battery indicator on mine.  I'm
running KDE and found you can set it this way:

Click the K menu
Click Configuration
Click KDE
Click PowerControl
Click Laptop Battery

You should see a check box for Show Battery Monitor.  Make
sure it's set.  

You may want to look for something similar.

As for life in XP vs, Linux, I don't see much battery life
difference between the two on my laptop.  Perhaps it has
somehting to do with power settings in each?  XP may have a
more conservative power use profile.

Just some thoughts

Mark


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Re: [newbie] Linux and power on notebook?

2004-03-09 Thread rhein
Hello,
I don't have it... This is the message written:
Your computer doesn't have the Linux APM (Advanced Power Management) or 
ACPI software installed, or doesn't have the APM kernel drivers 
installed - check out the Linux Laptop-HOWTO document for information on 
how to install APM.

when I click on the linux Laptop Howto I get a error message...
I will try with google.
Bye
Christophe
Mark Kirschner wrote:

On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 19:26:00 -0500
rhein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Hello,
That's now the second time that my notebook shuts down
because I'm not able to see the level of my battery. Good
thing I didn't have to start all over because I saved my
work a few minutes before. Is there a way to have the
battery indicator under MDK 9.2? (by the way I think the
battery goes faster then with XP...??) Also when I'm
working the fan is running more often then with XP. Is
there something to modify? Thanks
Christophe
ps: I have a Compaq nx9005
   



Christophe,

I'm only running 9.1, so I'm not sure how relevant it is to
your situation.  I have the battery indicator on mine.  I'm
running KDE and found you can set it this way:
Click the K menu
Click Configuration
Click KDE
Click PowerControl
Click Laptop Battery
You should see a check box for Show Battery Monitor.  Make
sure it's set.  

You may want to look for something similar.

As for life in XP vs, Linux, I don't see much battery life
difference between the two on my laptop.  Perhaps it has
somehting to do with power settings in each?  XP may have a
more conservative power use profile.
Just some thoughts

Mark

 



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Re: [newbie] Linux and power on notebook?

2004-03-09 Thread Robert Walker
Wednesday, March 10, 2004, 3:00:36 AM, you wrote:
 Hello,
 I don't have it... This is the message written:
 Your computer doesn't have the Linux APM (Advanced Power Management) or 
 ACPI software installed, or doesn't have the APM kernel drivers 
 installed - check out the Linux Laptop-HOWTO document for information on 
 how to install APM.

 when I click on the linux Laptop Howto I get a error message...
 I will try with google.
 Bye
 Christophe


Hi Christophe,

You want ACPI compiled into your kernel. (Should be in the stock
kernel I think - but I don't use them).

You then need to turn on ACPI (MCC - boot options). If you don't turn
it on explicitly it won't be there! As I found to my cost trying to
get my modem and soundcard to work (needless to say they did when ACPI
was turned on).

You can then throttle the CPU to all the states it supports, check
the battery state (current and previous maximum recharge). Its all
buried in the /proc/acpi/ directory which interfaces to the kernel. I
tried running my 2.0Ghz P4 at 512Mhz which was quite a laugh :-) My
BIOS only allows 1.0Ghz, 1.5Ghz or 2.0Ghz so I thought that was quite
cool. I could also see the CPU temperature (found that my fan comes on
at 54C and goes off at 46 with hysterious).

To throttle you can just type:
echo number  throttle
Or something like that (I am sure you get idea). Its wee while since I
played around with it.

The KDE version I am/was using didn't support automatic shutdown with low battery 
charge
but the /proc/acpi interface was very accurate (I found) so thats not
such a big problem.

-- 
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Re: [newbie] Linux and power on notebook?

2004-03-09 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Tuesday 09 March 2004 07:26 pm, rhein wrote:
-Hello,
-That's now the second time that my notebook shuts down because I'm not
-able to see the level of my battery. Good thing I didn't have to start
-all over because I saved my work a few minutes before.
-Is there a way to have the battery indicator under MDK 9.2? (by the way
-I think the battery goes faster then with XP...??)
-Also when I'm working the fan is running more often then with XP. Is
-there something to modify?
-Thanks
-Christophe
-ps: I have a Compaq nx9005

My Dell Inspiron 1100, running v9.2 and KDE has a small icon in the tray that 
shows the battery status (charging), AC plugged in or not, and time 
remaining.

I think I had to have acpi and apm running. You can check these under the MCC, 
services listing.

KDE then has a power management section where you can set things, for example 
where or not it beeps or plays a sound when the battery gets low and then for 
it going critical.

-- 

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   \/


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Re: [newbie] Linux and power on notebook?

2004-03-09 Thread Marc Resnick
rhein wrote:

Hello,
That's now the second time that my notebook shuts down because I'm not 
able to see the level of my battery. Good thing I didn't have to start 
all over because I saved my work a few minutes before.
Is there a way to have the battery indicator under MDK 9.2? (by the 
way I think the battery goes faster then with XP...??)
Also when I'm working the fan is running more often then with XP. Is 
there something to modify?
Thanks
Christophe
ps: I have a Compaq nx9005



Where there's a will, there's a way.

First, download the packages acpi and acpid. Then, go into Control 
Center and Boot Options. Find your default image, and click modify. In 
the append line make sure it DOESN'T say 'acpi=off' or 'acpi=ht', and 
make sure it does say 'nolapic'. Then, reboot, and you should have your 
battery monitor in the system tray. If it still doesn't want to work, 
reply and we'll diagnose the problem.

--Marc

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Re: [newbie] Linux and power on notebook?

2004-03-09 Thread fajarpri
Quoting Marc Resnick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 rhein wrote:
 
  Hello,
  That's now the second time that my notebook shuts down because I'm not 
  able to see the level of my battery. Good thing I didn't have to start 
  all over because I saved my work a few minutes before.
  Is there a way to have the battery indicator under MDK 9.2? (by the 
  way I think the battery goes faster then with XP...??)
  Also when I'm working the fan is running more often then with XP. Is 
  there something to modify?
  Thanks
  Christophe
  ps: I have a Compaq nx9005
 

Hi,
It questions me too. Mine is Acer TM LCi802. The battery goes faster because 
Mdk9.2 is not configured for recognizing the speed-step technology yet. As for 
battery meter, My mdk92 shows it on default on the right side of the system 
tray.

You can check out others experience on your notebook at http://www.linux-
laptop.net

Goodluck,
Fajar.

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Re: [newbie] Linux and power on notebook?

2004-03-09 Thread Marc Resnick
rhein wrote:

Hello,
I don't have it... This is the message written:
Your computer doesn't have the Linux APM (Advanced Power Management) 
or ACPI software installed, or doesn't have the APM kernel drivers 
installed - check out the Linux Laptop-HOWTO document for information 
on how to install APM.

when I click on the linux Laptop Howto I get a error message...
I will try with google.
Bye
Christophe
Mark Kirschner wrote:

On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 19:26:00 -0500
rhein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Hello,
That's now the second time that my notebook shuts down
because I'm not able to see the level of my battery. Good
thing I didn't have to start all over because I saved my
work a few minutes before. Is there a way to have the
battery indicator under MDK 9.2? (by the way I think the
battery goes faster then with XP...??) Also when I'm
working the fan is running more often then with XP. Is
there something to modify? Thanks
Christophe
ps: I have a Compaq nx9005
  


Christophe,

I'm only running 9.1, so I'm not sure how relevant it is to
your situation.  I have the battery indicator on mine.  I'm
running KDE and found you can set it this way:
Click the K menu
Click Configuration
Click KDE
Click PowerControl
Click Laptop Battery
You should see a check box for Show Battery Monitor.  Make
sure it's set. 
You may want to look for something similar.

As for life in XP vs, Linux, I don't see much battery life
difference between the two on my laptop.  Perhaps it has
somehting to do with power settings in each?  XP may have a
more conservative power use profile.
Just some thoughts

Mark

 



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That's why you need to install it ;-). Go to 'Install Packages' and 
search for acpi. Install acpi and acpid, then follow my other steps. 

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