Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-12 Thread et
On Monday 12 January 2004 04:21 am, Peter Simko wrote:
 Right. That's because there are no Linux partitions on hda. There
 probably never will be, but I still want to be able to mount that drive
 from Linux in order to access the data that resides there. I also need
 to recognize it in order to run LILO so I can start playing around with
 my own kernels.
you might find more help if you stop 'top posting', as it makes  it rather 
hard to follow what has and has not been said and done. see the BOTTOM for 
the rest of my comments.



 E. Hines wrote:
 I see linux partitions only on /dev/hdb (hdb2,hdb3, and hdb4).  You have
  no Linux partitions mounting on hdaX at all.  You need to figure out
  which partition is the linux partition on hda (as root# fdisk -l /dev/hda
  is your friend) and create manual entries for it:
 
 /dev/hdaX /some_name ext2 rw 0 0
 
 I have one that looks like this:
 
 /dev/hda9 /backup ext2 defaults 1 2
 
 On Sunday 11 January 2004 11:39 am, Peter Simko wrote:
 As requested:
 
 # /etc/mtab
 /dev/hdb2 / ext2 rw 0 0
 none /proc proc rw 0 0
 none /dev devfs rw 0 0
 none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0
 none /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
 /dev/hdb4 /home ext2 rw 0 0
 none /mnt/cdrom supermount
 ro,dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/win_f vfat rw 0 0
 /dev/hdb6 /mnt/win_g vfat rw 0 0
 none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43 0 0
 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro 0 0
 
 #/etc/fstab
 # /etc/fstab: static file system information
 #
 # block devmount pointtypeoptionsdump pass
 #-- --- ---  
 /dev/hdb2/ext2defaults11
 none /dev/ptsdevptsmode=062000
 none /dev/shmtmpfsdefaults00
 /dev/hdb4/homeext2defaults12
 none/mnt/cdromsupermount
 dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,0 0
 /dev/hdd/mnt/cdrom2iso9660
 iocharset=iso8859-1,ro,nosuid,noauto,exec,user,nodev0 0
 /dev/fd0/mnt/floppyvfat
 iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,nosuid,user,noauto,nodev,codepage=850,un
 hi de 0 0
 /dev/hda1/mnt/win_cvfatdefaults00
 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/win_f vfatdefaults 00
 /dev/hda2 /mnt/win_dvfatdefaults00
 /dev/hdb6 /mnt/win_gvfatdefaults00
 /dev/hda3 /mnt/win_evfatdefaults00
 none /procprocdefaults00
 /dev/hdb3swapswapdefaults00
 
 
 I'm in the middle of playing around with my CDRW drive too, so that
 entry may look weird.
 
 Pete
 
 et wrote:
 On Sunday 11 January 2004 06:17 am, E. Hines wrote:
 On Saturday 10 January 2004 06:01 pm, Peter Simko wrote:
 The hda is working fine. It's the master on a dual-boot system and has
 the XP OS and most of my data on it. It shows up in BIOS during boot
 just fine. The hardware also seems to be detected in dmesg, but no
 drivers are available. And I just double checked the jumper and it's
  set to 'master', not cable select.
 
 post (as root, without the quotes, in a text consol) cat /etc/mtab
 and
 cat /etc/fstab
well, it is pretty obvious that you don't have any entry for hda in your 
fstab, but the reason it would not be found by diskdrake is beyond me. are 
you absolutly positive that you are looking for the correct tab in diskdrake? 
have you tried ranish? or partition majic just to see what they say about the 
part table? (don't let PM fix it if you have anything other than ext2 and M$ 
filesystems).


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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-12 Thread E. Hines
On Sunday 11 January 2004 08:21 pm, Peter Simko wrote:
 Right. That's because there are no Linux partitions on hda. There
 probably never will be, but I still want to be able to mount that drive
 from Linux in order to access the data that resides there. I also need
 to recognize it in order to run LILO so I can start playing around with
 my own kernels.

Sorry, I was under the impression you were trying to mount a linux partition 
that existed on hda.  Please accept my apologies.

fstab shows what can be (and is, in most cases) mounted.  /etc/mtab shows what 
is mounted.  Could be a permissions problem, or could be a problem with 8.2.  
You've attempted to mount the windows partition from the command line, both 
as user and as root and have failed with an error to the effect that the 
partition doesn't exist?  Is lilo your boot manager?  Does dmesg give any 
errors during bootup?

Could you boot with Knoppix or pclinux OS and see if the windows partition is 
recognized?

If you are getting tired of this, it might be a good time to upgrade (8.2 came 
with quite a few problems, IIRC.  I didn't have any, but many users did.


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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-11 Thread Bob Read
PMFJI  asking a dumb question, but isn't the master on
the 2nd IDE channel automatically hdc ??
Bob


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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-11 Thread Peter Simko
Yes, that's a pretty accurate description of what happened, except that 
I'm running 8.2. To restore the links I ran mknod disc b 3 0 in 
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0 and similar commands for the partitions.
Then I linked them all back to /dev using ln -s path hda1, etc. That 
didn't work, and here I am.

bascule wrote:

have you lost the link to the drive if you are using devfs?
i don't remember the earlier posts but if you have 9.2 and are using devfs 
then you will find that /dev/hda etc are symbolic links, i.e.:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bascule]$ ls -l /dev/hda
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   32 Jan  9 12:13 /dev/hda - 
ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bascule]$ ls -l /dev/hda1
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   33 Jan  9 12:13 /dev/hda1 - 
ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1

bascule

On Sunday 11 Jan 2004 3:11 am, Troy T. Hall wrote:

The hda is working fine. It's the master on a dual-boot system and has
the XP OS and most of my data on it. It shows up in BIOS during boot
just fine. The hardware also seems to be detected in dmesg, but no
drivers are available. And I just double checked the jumper and it's set
to 'master', not cable select.




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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-11 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday 11 January 2004 08:44 am, Bob Read wrote:
 PMFJI  asking a dumb question, but isn't the master on
 the 2nd IDE channel automatically hdc ??

 Bob

Yes, but with two more caveats. It should be on the end 
connector of the IDE ribbon, and attention must be paid to 
getting the pin1 orientation correct (the red stripe side of the 
cable).

   Mother board ide2  slave master
 |__|_|
  

Actually it's not ide2, but that's a common usage. The ports 
are more correctly termed as ide0 (1st) and ide1 (2nd).
-- 
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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-11 Thread et
On Sunday 11 January 2004 06:17 am, E. Hines wrote:
 On Saturday 10 January 2004 06:01 pm, Peter Simko wrote:
  The hda is working fine. It's the master on a dual-boot system and has
  the XP OS and most of my data on it. It shows up in BIOS during boot
  just fine. The hardware also seems to be detected in dmesg, but no
  drivers are available. And I just double checked the jumper and it's set
  to 'master', not cable select.
post (as root, without the quotes, in a text consol) cat /etc/mtab
and
cat /etc/fstab


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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-11 Thread Peter Simko
As requested:

# /etc/mtab
/dev/hdb2 / ext2 rw 0 0
none /proc proc rw 0 0
none /dev devfs rw 0 0
none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
/dev/hdb4 /home ext2 rw 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom supermount 
ro,dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
/dev/hdb5 /mnt/win_f vfat rw 0 0
/dev/hdb6 /mnt/win_g vfat rw 0 0
none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43 0 0
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro 0 0

#/etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information
#
# block devmount pointtypeoptionsdump pass
#-- --- ---  
/dev/hdb2/ext2defaults11
none /dev/ptsdevptsmode=062000
none /dev/shmtmpfsdefaults00
/dev/hdb4/homeext2defaults12
none/mnt/cdromsupermount
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,0 0
/dev/hdd/mnt/cdrom2iso9660
iocharset=iso8859-1,ro,nosuid,noauto,exec,user,nodev0 0
/dev/fd0/mnt/floppyvfat
iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,nosuid,user,noauto,nodev,codepage=850,unhide
0 0
/dev/hda1/mnt/win_cvfatdefaults00
/dev/hdb5 /mnt/win_f vfatdefaults 00
/dev/hda2 /mnt/win_dvfatdefaults00
/dev/hdb6 /mnt/win_gvfatdefaults00
/dev/hda3 /mnt/win_evfatdefaults00
none /procprocdefaults00
/dev/hdb3swapswapdefaults00

I'm in the middle of playing around with my CDRW drive too, so that 
entry may look weird.

Pete

et wrote:

On Sunday 11 January 2004 06:17 am, E. Hines wrote:

On Saturday 10 January 2004 06:01 pm, Peter Simko wrote:

The hda is working fine. It's the master on a dual-boot system and has
the XP OS and most of my data on it. It shows up in BIOS during boot
just fine. The hardware also seems to be detected in dmesg, but no
drivers are available. And I just double checked the jumper and it's set
to 'master', not cable select.
post (as root, without the quotes, in a text consol) cat /etc/mtab
and
cat /etc/fstab




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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-11 Thread E. Hines
I see linux partitions only on /dev/hdb (hdb2,hdb3, and hdb4).  You have no 
Linux partitions mounting on hdaX at all.  You need to figure out which 
partition is the linux partition on hda (as root# fdisk -l /dev/hda is your 
friend) and create manual entries for it:

/dev/hdaX /some_name ext2 rw 0 0

I have one that looks like this:

/dev/hda9 /backup ext2 defaults 1 2


On Sunday 11 January 2004 11:39 am, Peter Simko wrote:
 As requested:

 # /etc/mtab
 /dev/hdb2 / ext2 rw 0 0
 none /proc proc rw 0 0
 none /dev devfs rw 0 0
 none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0
 none /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
 /dev/hdb4 /home ext2 rw 0 0
 none /mnt/cdrom supermount
 ro,dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/win_f vfat rw 0 0
 /dev/hdb6 /mnt/win_g vfat rw 0 0
 none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43 0 0
 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro 0 0

 #/etc/fstab
 # /etc/fstab: static file system information
 #
 # block devmount pointtypeoptionsdump pass
 #-- --- ---  
 /dev/hdb2/ext2defaults11
 none /dev/ptsdevptsmode=062000
 none /dev/shmtmpfsdefaults00
 /dev/hdb4/homeext2defaults12
 none/mnt/cdromsupermount
 dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,0 0
 /dev/hdd/mnt/cdrom2iso9660
 iocharset=iso8859-1,ro,nosuid,noauto,exec,user,nodev0 0
 /dev/fd0/mnt/floppyvfat
 iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,nosuid,user,noauto,nodev,codepage=850,unhi
de 0 0
 /dev/hda1/mnt/win_cvfatdefaults00
 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/win_f vfatdefaults 00
 /dev/hda2 /mnt/win_dvfatdefaults00
 /dev/hdb6 /mnt/win_gvfatdefaults00
 /dev/hda3 /mnt/win_evfatdefaults00
 none /procprocdefaults00
 /dev/hdb3swapswapdefaults00


 I'm in the middle of playing around with my CDRW drive too, so that
 entry may look weird.

 Pete

 et wrote:
 On Sunday 11 January 2004 06:17 am, E. Hines wrote:
 On Saturday 10 January 2004 06:01 pm, Peter Simko wrote:
 The hda is working fine. It's the master on a dual-boot system and has
 the XP OS and most of my data on it. It shows up in BIOS during boot
 just fine. The hardware also seems to be detected in dmesg, but no
 drivers are available. And I just double checked the jumper and it's set
 to 'master', not cable select.
 
 post (as root, without the quotes, in a text consol) cat /etc/mtab
 and
 cat /etc/fstab


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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-11 Thread Peter Simko
Right. That's because there are no Linux partitions on hda. There 
probably never will be, but I still want to be able to mount that drive 
from Linux in order to access the data that resides there. I also need 
to recognize it in order to run LILO so I can start playing around with 
my own kernels.

E. Hines wrote:

I see linux partitions only on /dev/hdb (hdb2,hdb3, and hdb4).  You have no 
Linux partitions mounting on hdaX at all.  You need to figure out which 
partition is the linux partition on hda (as root# fdisk -l /dev/hda is your 
friend) and create manual entries for it:

/dev/hdaX /some_name ext2 rw 0 0

I have one that looks like this:

/dev/hda9 /backup ext2 defaults 1 2

On Sunday 11 January 2004 11:39 am, Peter Simko wrote:

As requested:

# /etc/mtab
/dev/hdb2 / ext2 rw 0 0
none /proc proc rw 0 0
none /dev devfs rw 0 0
none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
/dev/hdb4 /home ext2 rw 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom supermount
ro,dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
/dev/hdb5 /mnt/win_f vfat rw 0 0
/dev/hdb6 /mnt/win_g vfat rw 0 0
none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43 0 0
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro 0 0
#/etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information
#
# block devmount pointtypeoptionsdump pass
#-- --- ---  
/dev/hdb2/ext2defaults11
none /dev/ptsdevptsmode=062000
none /dev/shmtmpfsdefaults00
/dev/hdb4/homeext2defaults12
none/mnt/cdromsupermount
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,0 0
/dev/hdd/mnt/cdrom2iso9660
iocharset=iso8859-1,ro,nosuid,noauto,exec,user,nodev0 0
/dev/fd0/mnt/floppyvfat
iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,nosuid,user,noauto,nodev,codepage=850,unhi
de 0 0
/dev/hda1/mnt/win_cvfatdefaults00
/dev/hdb5 /mnt/win_f vfatdefaults 00
/dev/hda2 /mnt/win_dvfatdefaults00
/dev/hdb6 /mnt/win_gvfatdefaults00
/dev/hda3 /mnt/win_evfatdefaults00
none /procprocdefaults00
/dev/hdb3swapswapdefaults00
I'm in the middle of playing around with my CDRW drive too, so that
entry may look weird.
Pete

et wrote:

On Sunday 11 January 2004 06:17 am, E. Hines wrote:

On Saturday 10 January 2004 06:01 pm, Peter Simko wrote:

The hda is working fine. It's the master on a dual-boot system and has
the XP OS and most of my data on it. It shows up in BIOS during boot
just fine. The hardware also seems to be detected in dmesg, but no
drivers are available. And I just double checked the jumper and it's set
to 'master', not cable select.
post (as root, without the quotes, in a text consol) cat /etc/mtab
and
cat /etc/fstab




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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-10 Thread E. Hines
On Friday 09 January 2004 07:30 pm, Peter Simko wrote:


 Nope, hda doesn't show up there either, just the hdb device. This is
 really annoying the hell out of me. I used to run both HDDs from an ATA
 controller card, but I got rid of that and put both drives on IDE 0 to
 simplify my system. That changed hdf to hdb without a problem (with
 appropriate changes to fstab), but somehow hde just went 'poof' and
 disappeared instead of showing up again as hda.

A few things I can think of:

hda should be jumpered for Master and it should be (if I recall correctly, 
someone will correct me if I'm wrong) on the end of the IDE cable.  The slave 
drive should be attached to the center cable connector.  Does your bios show 
both drives being detected and identified correctly? (assuming you don't have 
a crippled bios like a Gateway or some such).  Do you get a message at the 
first boot screen (right after memory test) that shows the Master and Slave 
drive being identified?
Have you tried moving hdb to ide1, and having hda alone on ide0?  Tried 
booting with only hda plugged in?  Lots of stuff you can do to determine what 
the problem is, but it acts like:

1.  hda has no power plugged into it
2.  hda is jumpered wrong, or in the wrong position on the cable
3.  the IDE cable is bad, not plugged in, or plugged in wrong--red marker not 
to pin 1 (not impossible to do with some cable/drive combos)
4.  the hd has gone bad

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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 10 January 2004 07:31, E. Hines wrote:
 On Friday 09 January 2004 07:30 pm, Peter Simko wrote:
  Nope, hda doesn't show up there either, just the hdb device. This
  is really annoying the hell out of me. I used to run both HDDs
  from an ATA controller card, but I got rid of that and put both
  drives on IDE 0 to simplify my system. That changed hdf to hdb
  without a problem (with appropriate changes to fstab), but
  somehow hde just went 'poof' and disappeared instead of showing
  up again as hda.

 A few things I can think of:

 hda should be jumpered for Master and it should be (if I recall
 correctly, someone will correct me if I'm wrong) on the end of the
 IDE cable.  The slave drive should be attached to the center cable
 connector.  Does your bios show both drives being detected and
 identified correctly? (assuming you don't have a crippled bios like
 a Gateway or some such).  Do you get a message at the first boot
 screen (right after memory test) that shows the Master and Slave
 drive being identified?
 Have you tried moving hdb to ide1, and having hda alone on ide0? 
 Tried booting with only hda plugged in?  Lots of stuff you can do
 to determine what the problem is, but it acts like:

 1.  hda has no power plugged into it
 2.  hda is jumpered wrong, or in the wrong position on the cable
 3.  the IDE cable is bad, not plugged in, or plugged in wrong--red
 marker not to pin 1 (not impossible to do with some cable/drive
 combos) 4.  the hd has gone bad

Above all, I would say make sure that neither drive is jumpered for 
Cable Select.  It causes far more problems than it solves.

Anne
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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-10 Thread et
On Saturday 10 January 2004 03:30 am, Peter Simko wrote:
 et wrote:
 On Friday 09 January 2004 02:05 am, Peter Simko wrote:
 Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Thursday 08 January 2004 07:39 pm, Peter Simko wrote:
 I'm running the old Mandrake 8.2 distro on a Linux-WinXP dual boot
 machine. My hda drive consists of three partitions, all vfat and used
 for the XP side of the box. Recently (after making some hardware
 configuration changes) the Linux side has been unable to mount the hda
 drive. At first, it wasn't even listed in the /dev directory, so I
 manually created the block device nodes in
 /dev/ide0/host0/target0/bus0/lun0 using mknod hda b 3 0 for the disk
 and mknod hda1 b 3 1, etc for the three partitions. I then linked the
 devices back up to /dev. My problem now is that I can't mount the
 devices and keep getting mount: /dev/hda1 is not a valid block
  device. Looking through dmesg I also get a lot of hda: driver not
  present warnings during boot, even though the BIOS is definitely
  seeing the drive. Anyone know how I can make my hda drive mountable
  again?
 
 Sounds to me like you have a loose or faulty IDE cable.  I had this
  happen once where the cable was just loose enough to cause all kinds of
  disk errors, but enough of the pins were connected to ID the drive to
  the BIOS.
 
 
 
 
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 Oops, should have mentioned that the XP side of the box works fine, and
 XP is located on hda.
 
 diskdrake as root... me boyo,,, you should be able to make it mount from
  the gui

 Nope, hda doesn't show up there either, just the hdb device. This is
 really annoying the hell out of me. I used to run both HDDs from an ATA
 controller card, but I got rid of that and put both drives on IDE 0 to
 simplify my system. That changed hdf to hdb without a problem (with
 appropriate changes to fstab), but somehow hde just went 'poof' and
 disappeared instead of showing up again as hda.
well then set the jumper from cable select to master on the back of the hda 
drive.


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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-10 Thread Peter Simko
Anne Wilson wrote:

On Saturday 10 January 2004 07:31, E. Hines wrote:

On Friday 09 January 2004 07:30 pm, Peter Simko wrote:

Nope, hda doesn't show up there either, just the hdb device. This
is really annoying the hell out of me. I used to run both HDDs
from an ATA controller card, but I got rid of that and put both
drives on IDE 0 to simplify my system. That changed hdf to hdb
without a problem (with appropriate changes to fstab), but
somehow hde just went 'poof' and disappeared instead of showing
up again as hda.
A few things I can think of:

hda should be jumpered for Master and it should be (if I recall
correctly, someone will correct me if I'm wrong) on the end of the
IDE cable.  The slave drive should be attached to the center cable
connector.  Does your bios show both drives being detected and
identified correctly? (assuming you don't have a crippled bios like
a Gateway or some such).  Do you get a message at the first boot
screen (right after memory test) that shows the Master and Slave
drive being identified?
Have you tried moving hdb to ide1, and having hda alone on ide0? 
Tried booting with only hda plugged in?  Lots of stuff you can do
to determine what the problem is, but it acts like:

1.  hda has no power plugged into it
2.  hda is jumpered wrong, or in the wrong position on the cable
3.  the IDE cable is bad, not plugged in, or plugged in wrong--red
marker not to pin 1 (not impossible to do with some cable/drive
combos) 4.  the hd has gone bad
Above all, I would say make sure that neither drive is jumpered for 
Cable Select.  It causes far more problems than it solves.

Anne

The hda is working fine. It's the master on a dual-boot system and has 
the XP OS and most of my data on it. It shows up in BIOS during boot 
just fine. The hardware also seems to be detected in dmesg, but no 
drivers are available. And I just double checked the jumper and it's set 
to 'master', not cable select.



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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-10 Thread Troy T. Hall
Don't know if this is relevant or not but I used to have a problem with one
of my hd's where it did not won't to co-exist on the same controller channel
as another.  If it was all by itself on the controller channel it would be
seen in linux just fine and the correct size.  But when I put it with
another drive, ESPECIALLY a seagate drive, it would change its drive
geometry.  Or not work at all.  I eventually segregated it to its own box
and it lives there still.  I've also seen issues where if you use a cable
that is not properly rated for the controller channel ( typically ide0 ) it
will cause issues.
Hardware can be frustrating sometimes.

Troy

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Simko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 2001 N6REJ
Subject: Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system


 Anne Wilson wrote:

 On Saturday 10 January 2004 07:31, E. Hines wrote:
 
 On Friday 09 January 2004 07:30 pm, Peter Simko wrote:
 
 Nope, hda doesn't show up there either, just the hdb device. This
 is really annoying the hell out of me. I used to run both HDDs
 from an ATA controller card, but I got rid of that and put both
 drives on IDE 0 to simplify my system. That changed hdf to hdb
 without a problem (with appropriate changes to fstab), but
 somehow hde just went 'poof' and disappeared instead of showing
 up again as hda.
 
 A few things I can think of:
 
 hda should be jumpered for Master and it should be (if I recall
 correctly, someone will correct me if I'm wrong) on the end of the
 IDE cable.  The slave drive should be attached to the center cable
 connector.  Does your bios show both drives being detected and
 identified correctly? (assuming you don't have a crippled bios like
 a Gateway or some such).  Do you get a message at the first boot
 screen (right after memory test) that shows the Master and Slave
 drive being identified?
 Have you tried moving hdb to ide1, and having hda alone on ide0?
 Tried booting with only hda plugged in?  Lots of stuff you can do
 to determine what the problem is, but it acts like:
 
 1.  hda has no power plugged into it
 2.  hda is jumpered wrong, or in the wrong position on the cable
 3.  the IDE cable is bad, not plugged in, or plugged in wrong--red
 marker not to pin 1 (not impossible to do with some cable/drive
 combos) 4.  the hd has gone bad
 
 
 Above all, I would say make sure that neither drive is jumpered for
 Cable Select.  It causes far more problems than it solves.
 
 Anne
 
 The hda is working fine. It's the master on a dual-boot system and has
 the XP OS and most of my data on it. It shows up in BIOS during boot
 just fine. The hardware also seems to be detected in dmesg, but no
 drivers are available. And I just double checked the jumper and it's set
 to 'master', not cable select.










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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-10 Thread bascule
have you lost the link to the drive if you are using devfs?
i don't remember the earlier posts but if you have 9.2 and are using devfs 
then you will find that /dev/hda etc are symbolic links, i.e.:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bascule]$ ls -l /dev/hda
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   32 Jan  9 12:13 /dev/hda - 
ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bascule]$ ls -l /dev/hda1
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   33 Jan  9 12:13 /dev/hda1 - 
ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1

bascule


On Sunday 11 Jan 2004 3:11 am, Troy T. Hall wrote:
  The hda is working fine. It's the master on a dual-boot system and has
  the XP OS and most of my data on it. It shows up in BIOS during boot
  just fine. The hardware also seems to be detected in dmesg, but no
  drivers are available. And I just double checked the jumper and it's set
  to 'master', not cable select.

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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-10 Thread E. Hines
On Saturday 10 January 2004 06:01 pm, Peter Simko wrote:


 The hda is working fine. It's the master on a dual-boot system and has
 the XP OS and most of my data on it. It shows up in BIOS during boot
 just fine. The hardware also seems to be detected in dmesg, but no
 drivers are available. And I just double checked the jumper and it's set
 to 'master', not cable select.

What I really think, now, is your /etc/fstab has no entries for a Linux 
partition on /dev/hdaX.  If Linux boots, take a peek at fstab and see where 
Windows is being mounted (should be hda1), and if you have any entries for 
Linux filesystems on hda.  The first linux partition of hda should say 
something similar to this example:
 /dev/hda5  /backup  reiserfs   noatime,rw,user,exec,auto   1 1
What the above line says is that a partition of type reiserfs, named /backup 
exists at the location 5 on disk hda, and is mounted read and write, by any 
user, at bootup.  


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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-10 Thread E. Hines
and as root#fdisk -l /dev/hda will give a complete list of the partitions 
. and what their formatting is

and as root#fdisk -l   will give info about what the symbolic links should
   be
e.

On Saturday 10 January 2004 08:07 pm, bascule wrote:
 have you lost the link to the drive if you are using devfs?
 i don't remember the earlier posts but if you have 9.2 and are using devfs
 then you will find that /dev/hda etc are symbolic links, i.e.:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bascule]$ ls -l /dev/hda
 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   32 Jan  9 12:13 /dev/hda -
 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bascule]$ ls -l /dev/hda1
 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   33 Jan  9 12:13 /dev/hda1 -
 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1

 bascule


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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-09 Thread Peter Simko
et wrote:

On Friday 09 January 2004 02:05 am, Peter Simko wrote:

Greg Meyer wrote:

On Thursday 08 January 2004 07:39 pm, Peter Simko wrote:

I'm running the old Mandrake 8.2 distro on a Linux-WinXP dual boot
machine. My hda drive consists of three partitions, all vfat and used
for the XP side of the box. Recently (after making some hardware
configuration changes) the Linux side has been unable to mount the hda
drive. At first, it wasn't even listed in the /dev directory, so I
manually created the block device nodes in
/dev/ide0/host0/target0/bus0/lun0 using mknod hda b 3 0 for the disk
and mknod hda1 b 3 1, etc for the three partitions. I then linked the
devices back up to /dev. My problem now is that I can't mount the
devices and keep getting mount: /dev/hda1 is not a valid block device.
Looking through dmesg I also get a lot of hda: driver not present
warnings during boot, even though the BIOS is definitely seeing the
drive. Anyone know how I can make my hda drive mountable again?
Sounds to me like you have a loose or faulty IDE cable.  I had this happen
once where the cable was just loose enough to cause all kinds of disk
errors, but enough of the pins were connected to ID the drive to the
BIOS.


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Oops, should have mentioned that the XP side of the box works fine, and
XP is located on hda.
diskdrake as root... me boyo,,, you should be able to make it mount from the 
gui

Nope, hda doesn't show up there either, just the hdb device. This is 
really annoying the hell out of me. I used to run both HDDs from an ATA 
controller card, but I got rid of that and put both drives on IDE 0 to 
simplify my system. That changed hdf to hdb without a problem (with 
appropriate changes to fstab), but somehow hde just went 'poof' and 
disappeared instead of showing up again as hda.



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[newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-08 Thread Peter Simko
I'm running the old Mandrake 8.2 distro on a Linux-WinXP dual boot
machine. My hda drive consists of three partitions, all vfat and used
for the XP side of the box. Recently (after making some hardware
configuration changes) the Linux side has been unable to mount the hda
drive. At first, it wasn't even listed in the /dev directory, so I
manually created the block device nodes in
/dev/ide0/host0/target0/bus0/lun0 using mknod hda b 3 0 for the disk
and mknod hda1 b 3 1, etc for the three partitions. I then linked the
devices back up to /dev. My problem now is that I can't mount the
devices and keep getting mount: /dev/hda1 is not a valid block device.
Looking through dmesg I also get a lot of hda: driver not present
warnings during boot, even though the BIOS is definitely seeing the 
drive. Anyone know how I can make my hda drive mountable again?



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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-08 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 08 January 2004 07:39 pm, Peter Simko wrote:
 I'm running the old Mandrake 8.2 distro on a Linux-WinXP dual boot
 machine. My hda drive consists of three partitions, all vfat and used
 for the XP side of the box. Recently (after making some hardware
 configuration changes) the Linux side has been unable to mount the hda
 drive. At first, it wasn't even listed in the /dev directory, so I
 manually created the block device nodes in
 /dev/ide0/host0/target0/bus0/lun0 using mknod hda b 3 0 for the disk
 and mknod hda1 b 3 1, etc for the three partitions. I then linked the
 devices back up to /dev. My problem now is that I can't mount the
 devices and keep getting mount: /dev/hda1 is not a valid block device.
 Looking through dmesg I also get a lot of hda: driver not present
 warnings during boot, even though the BIOS is definitely seeing the
 drive. Anyone know how I can make my hda drive mountable again?

Sounds to me like you have a loose or faulty IDE cable.  I had this happen 
once where the cable was just loose enough to cause all kinds of disk errors, 
but enough of the pins were connected to ID the drive to the BIOS.
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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-08 Thread Peter Simko
Greg Meyer wrote:

On Thursday 08 January 2004 07:39 pm, Peter Simko wrote:

I'm running the old Mandrake 8.2 distro on a Linux-WinXP dual boot
machine. My hda drive consists of three partitions, all vfat and used
for the XP side of the box. Recently (after making some hardware
configuration changes) the Linux side has been unable to mount the hda
drive. At first, it wasn't even listed in the /dev directory, so I
manually created the block device nodes in
/dev/ide0/host0/target0/bus0/lun0 using mknod hda b 3 0 for the disk
and mknod hda1 b 3 1, etc for the three partitions. I then linked the
devices back up to /dev. My problem now is that I can't mount the
devices and keep getting mount: /dev/hda1 is not a valid block device.
Looking through dmesg I also get a lot of hda: driver not present
warnings during boot, even though the BIOS is definitely seeing the
drive. Anyone know how I can make my hda drive mountable again?
Sounds to me like you have a loose or faulty IDE cable.  I had this happen 
once where the cable was just loose enough to cause all kinds of disk errors, 
but enough of the pins were connected to ID the drive to the BIOS.



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Oops, should have mentioned that the XP side of the box works fine, and 
XP is located on hda.



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Re: [newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-08 Thread et
On Friday 09 January 2004 02:05 am, Peter Simko wrote:
 Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Thursday 08 January 2004 07:39 pm, Peter Simko wrote:
 I'm running the old Mandrake 8.2 distro on a Linux-WinXP dual boot
 machine. My hda drive consists of three partitions, all vfat and used
 for the XP side of the box. Recently (after making some hardware
 configuration changes) the Linux side has been unable to mount the hda
 drive. At first, it wasn't even listed in the /dev directory, so I
 manually created the block device nodes in
 /dev/ide0/host0/target0/bus0/lun0 using mknod hda b 3 0 for the disk
 and mknod hda1 b 3 1, etc for the three partitions. I then linked the
 devices back up to /dev. My problem now is that I can't mount the
 devices and keep getting mount: /dev/hda1 is not a valid block device.
 Looking through dmesg I also get a lot of hda: driver not present
 warnings during boot, even though the BIOS is definitely seeing the
 drive. Anyone know how I can make my hda drive mountable again?
 
 Sounds to me like you have a loose or faulty IDE cable.  I had this happen
 once where the cable was just loose enough to cause all kinds of disk
  errors, but enough of the pins were connected to ID the drive to the
  BIOS.
 
 
 
 
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 Oops, should have mentioned that the XP side of the box works fine, and
 XP is located on hda.
diskdrake as root... me boyo,,, you should be able to make it mount from the 
gui


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[newbie] Master HDD won't mount in dual-boot system

2004-01-03 Thread Peter Simko
I'm running the old Mandrake 8.2 distro on a Linux-WinXP dual boot 
machine. My hda drive consists of three partitions, all vfat and used 
for the XP side of the box. Recently (after making some hardware 
configuration changes) the Linux side has been unable to mount the hda 
drive. At first, it wasn't even listed in the /dev directory, so I 
manually created the block device nodes in 
/dev/ide0/host0/target0/bus0/lun0 using mknod hda b 3 0 for the disk 
and mknod hda1 b 3 1, etc for the three partitions. I then linked the 
devices back up to /dev. My problem now is that I can't mount the 
devices and keep getting mount: /dev/hda1 is not a valid block device. 
Looking through dmesg I also get a lot of hda: driver not present 
warnings, even though the BIOS is definitely seeing the drive. Anyone 
know how I can make my hda drive mountable again?


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