Re: [newbie] Mozilla - that resource hog!

2003-12-04 Thread Richard Urwin
On Thursday 04 Dec 2003 2:16 am, Greg wrote:
 John   Can you tell me where you got all the info listed here

 John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 top - 13:50:36 up 1 day, 21:26,  3 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.06, 0.05
 Tasks: 105 total,   2 running, 103 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
 Cpu(s):  16.2% user,   2.0% system,   0.0% nice,  81.8% idle
 Mem:515336k total,   510792k used, 4544k free, 6568k buffers
 Swap:  1028120k total,30604k used,   997516k free,   359000k cached
 
 PID USER PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  Command
 15963 root  15   0 35552  34m  17m S  9.9  6.9   0:14.23 mozilla-bin
 1599 root   9 -10 98400  15m 3420 S  7.0  3.1  30:12.89 X
 16078 root  11   0   992  992  768 R  0.7  0.2   0:00.57 top
 16032 root   9   0  9636 9632 6880 S  0.3  1.9   0:00.68
  gnome-terminal

That's top

Give the command
   top
in a terminal window.

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla - that resource hog!

2003-12-04 Thread John Richard Smith
Greg wrote:

John   Can you tell me where you got all the info listed here  
Thanks  Greg

 

It's from a nice little programme called  top  
which should be default installed, but check,

in a terminal,
# rpm -qa | grep top
gnome-desktop-2.2.0.1-2mdk
libgtop2-2.0.1-1mdk
toppler-0.96-8mdk
libgtop2.0_0-2.0.1-1mdk
libgnome-desktop-2_2-2.2.0.1-2mdk
to see if you have it all installed,
if not go to MCC and tell it to install top from your CD's
then open another terminal and type top.
there are other programmes like gkrellm that do similar things,
but for this purpose top does it all nicely.


John

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[newbie] Mozilla - that resource hog!

2003-12-03 Thread Tango Echo
Hi all,

I'm running MDK 9.1 on my workstation.  I usually
leave it on 24/7 for the week but shut it down on the
weekends.  Usually between Wednesday and Friday
Mozilla becomes *painfully* slow. I'm talking about
writing a sentance and watching it appear over the
course of 10-30 seconds... Scrolling and simply
browsing is also slowed dramatically.  I'm running
gkrellm and it indicates that my CPU is pinned at 100%
during this slow period.  I thought that maybe if I
upgraded Mozillia that may help.  So I took out the
old and installed Mozilla 1.5 XFT.  Still no luck. 
This is going to sound silly, but the only way I've
found to fix the problem is to shutdown all instances
of Mozilla and start the program back up.  Seems
simple enough, but when I'm doing a lot of research
leaving the windows open is much more convenient then
book marking or history browsing... Even after I shut
it down it still can spike the CPU to 80-100% - is
that part normal?

Any ideas here? 

Thanks in advance,

Tango Echo

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla - that resource hog!

2003-12-03 Thread John Richard Smith
Tango Echo wrote:

Hi all,

I'm running MDK 9.1 on my workstation.  I usually
leave it on 24/7 for the week but shut it down on the
weekends.  Usually between Wednesday and Friday
Mozilla becomes *painfully* slow. I'm talking about
writing a sentance and watching it appear over the
course of 10-30 seconds... Scrolling and simply
browsing is also slowed dramatically.  I'm running
gkrellm and it indicates that my CPU is pinned at 100%
during this slow period.  I thought that maybe if I
upgraded Mozillia that may help.  So I took out the
old and installed Mozilla 1.5 XFT.  Still no luck. 
This is going to sound silly, but the only way I've
found to fix the problem is to shutdown all instances
of Mozilla and start the program back up.  Seems
simple enough, but when I'm doing a lot of research
leaving the windows open is much more convenient then
book marking or history browsing... Even after I shut
it down it still can spike the CPU to 80-100% - is
that part normal?

Any ideas here? 

Thanks in advance,

Tango Echo

 

Here is mine in M9.1,

top - 13:50:36 up 1 day, 21:26,  3 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.06, 0.05
Tasks: 105 total,   2 running, 103 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  16.2% user,   2.0% system,   0.0% nice,  81.8% idle
Mem:515336k total,   510792k used, 4544k free, 6568k buffers
Swap:  1028120k total,30604k used,   997516k free,   359000k cached
   
PID USER PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  Command
15963 root  15   0 35552  34m  17m S  9.9  6.9   0:14.23 mozilla-bin
1599 root   9 -10 98400  15m 3420 S  7.0  3.1  30:12.89 X
16078 root  11   0   992  992  768 R  0.7  0.2   0:00.57 top
16032 root   9   0  9636 9632 6880 S  0.3  1.9   0:00.68 gnome-terminal



From the above you can see that mozilla when in actual use takes  9.9% 
of CPU and 6.9% of memory, but when merely open but nothing doing, 
mozilla drops completely out of the list.

John

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla - that resource hog!

2003-12-03 Thread Raffaele Belardi
Are you sure there isn't any other process eating resources in that 
period of time? Maybe a crond job?

I run 1.5 on 9.1 24/7 (what??? :-) and never experienced that behaviour.

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,

I'm running MDK 9.1 on my workstation.  I usually
leave it on 24/7 for the week but shut it down on the
weekends.  Usually between Wednesday and Friday
Mozilla becomes *painfully* slow. I'm talking about
writing a sentance and watching it appear over the
course of 10-30 seconds... Scrolling and simply
browsing is also slowed dramatically.  I'm running
gkrellm and it indicates that my CPU is pinned at 100%
during this slow period.  I thought that maybe if I
upgraded Mozillia that may help.  So I took out the
old and installed Mozilla 1.5 XFT.  Still no luck. 
This is going to sound silly, but the only way I've
found to fix the problem is to shutdown all instances
of Mozilla and start the program back up.  Seems
simple enough, but when I'm doing a lot of research
leaving the windows open is much more convenient then
book marking or history browsing... Even after I shut
it down it still can spike the CPU to 80-100% - is
that part normal?

Any ideas here? 

Thanks in advance,

Tango Echo

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla - that resource hog!

2003-12-03 Thread Raffaele Belardi
John.

you already wrote this earlier and go me a bit surprised. As long as 
process is running, it should be listed (and it is, on my box) in top, 
no matter if it's idling or consuming all the CPU. In other words, my 
mozilla never gets out of top listing oh, now I get it, you're 
probably running top with -i flag (don't show idle processes), right?

raffaele

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Tango Echo wrote:

Here is mine in M9.1,

top - 13:50:36 up 1 day, 21:26,  3 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.06, 0.05
Tasks: 105 total,   2 running, 103 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  16.2% user,   2.0% system,   0.0% nice,  81.8% idle
Mem:515336k total,   510792k used, 4544k free, 6568k buffers
Swap:  1028120k total,30604k used,   997516k free,   359000k cached
   
PID USER PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  Command
15963 root  15   0 35552  34m  17m S  9.9  6.9   0:14.23 mozilla-bin
1599 root   9 -10 98400  15m 3420 S  7.0  3.1  30:12.89 X
16078 root  11   0   992  992  768 R  0.7  0.2   0:00.57 top
16032 root   9   0  9636 9632 6880 S  0.3  1.9   0:00.68 gnome-terminal



 From the above you can see that mozilla when in actual use takes  9.9% 
of CPU and 6.9% of memory, but when merely open but nothing doing, 
mozilla drops completely out of the list.

John



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Re: [newbie] Mozilla - that resource hog!

2003-12-03 Thread Todd Slater
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 04:07:38PM +0100, Raffaele Belardi wrote:
 John.
 
 you already wrote this earlier and go me a bit surprised. As long as 
 process is running, it should be listed (and it is, on my box) in top, 
 no matter if it's idling or consuming all the CPU. In other words, my 
 mozilla never gets out of top listing oh, now I get it, you're 
 probably running top with -i flag (don't show idle processes), right?

I don't know how top knows what to display--I've got so many processes
running it would be impossible to fit them all in a terminal window. I
assume it puts the most active/resource intensive at the top. So, when
I'm just looking at a page in Mozilla, it doesn't show up in top, but
when I scroll, there it appears, with X.

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla - that resource hog!

2003-12-03 Thread Tango Echo
Yes I'm sure it's mozilla.  When I shut down the
program and bring it back, everything is normal for
around a week.  Also, when I top, mozilla-bin is
taking up everything!

Any more ideas?

--- Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are you sure there isn't any other process eating
 resources in that 
 period of time? Maybe a crond job?
 
 I run 1.5 on 9.1 24/7 (what??? :-) and never
 experienced that behaviour.
 
 raffaele
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I'm running MDK 9.1 on my workstation.  I usually
  leave it on 24/7 for the week but shut it down on
 the
  weekends.  Usually between Wednesday and Friday
  Mozilla becomes *painfully* slow. I'm talking
 about
  writing a sentance and watching it appear over the
  course of 10-30 seconds... Scrolling and simply
  browsing is also slowed dramatically.  I'm running
  gkrellm and it indicates that my CPU is pinned at
 100%
  during this slow period.  I thought that maybe if
 I
  upgraded Mozillia that may help.  So I took out
 the
  old and installed Mozilla 1.5 XFT.  Still no luck.
 
  This is going to sound silly, but the only way
 I've
  found to fix the problem is to shutdown all
 instances
  of Mozilla and start the program back up.  Seems
  simple enough, but when I'm doing a lot of
 research
  leaving the windows open is much more convenient
 then
  book marking or history browsing... Even after I
 shut
  it down it still can spike the CPU to 80-100% - is
  that part normal?
  
  Any ideas here? 
  
  Thanks in advance,
  
  Tango Echo
  
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Re: [newbie] Mozilla - that resource hog!

2003-12-03 Thread JoeHill
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:27:48 -0800 (PST)
Tango Echo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Any more ideas?

Use Galeon? ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla - that resource hog!

2003-12-03 Thread John Richard Smith
Todd Slater wrote:

On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 04:07:38PM +0100, Raffaele Belardi wrote:
 

John.

you already wrote this earlier and go me a bit surprised. As long as 
process is running, it should be listed (and it is, on my box) in top, 
no matter if it's idling or consuming all the CPU. In other words, my 
mozilla never gets out of top listing oh, now I get it, you're 
probably running top with -i flag (don't show idle processes), right?
   

I don't know how top knows what to display--I've got so many processes
running it would be impossible to fit them all in a terminal window. I
assume it puts the most active/resource intensive at the top. So, when
I'm just looking at a page in Mozilla, it doesn't show up in top, but
when I scroll, there it appears, with X.
Todd

 

Exactly and precisely, it's there but so low down the list when nothing 
is happening and jumps to the top when in use.

John

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla - that resource hog!

2003-12-03 Thread John Richard Smith
Raffaele Belardi wrote:

John.

you already wrote this earlier and go me a bit surprised. As long as 
process is running, it should be listed (and it is, on my box) in top, 
no matter if it's idling or consuming all the CPU. In other words, my 
mozilla never gets out of top listing oh, now I get it, you're 
probably running top with -i flag (don't show idle processes), right?

raffaele


No, just plain top on it's own, no mozilla in list provided your're
just
displaying  mozilla in a window without actually doing anything . Just
as soon as you do something , like moving a cursor over the mozilla
window or scrolling the window it jumps back to somewhere about
first or
second in the list usually vying with X (presumeably X Windows) for
top
slot . I guess mozilla is there somewhere but at a so low usage
level as
to be way off the list.
Mozilla is fairly memory hungry when loading, but OK thereafter, or so
it seems.
John

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