Re: [newbie] Noob help 2 - was: SCSI card not recognised by 9.1
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 13:10, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 22:08, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: snip TIA DougB What about putting this stuff in the /etc/rc.d/rc.local so that when you reboot, it fires it up from there? Thanks. I don't have the faintest idea how to do that (what lines of script, how to set it up to run, etc.). Can you help? TIA DougB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Noob help 2 - was: SCSI card not recognised by 9.1
On Sat, 2003-08-09 at 06:40, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 15:40, ed tharp wrote: snip line in the image section for linux - error message duplicate append lines. Re-booted just the same. No sign of SCSI card. only one append line per boot stanza but options can be 'stacked'. Ed, How do you do that? TIA DougB snip here is part of my lilo.conf image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=quiet devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off vga=788 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux-nonfb root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-smp label=linux-smp root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd-smp.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off read-only each stanza starts with image= the append lines have options stack by including and separating by a single blank space, so if I wanted to include NOAPIC to the smp stanza it would look like this before I rerun /sbin/lilo, which I would do before I rebooted, but after editing image=/boot/vmlinuz-smp label=linux-smp root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd-smp.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off NOAPIC read-only so the only change would have been from this; append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off to this; append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off NOAPIC this would not have effected any other choices in my lilo menu, just when I start selecting the entry corresponding to the label. so for my self, I might even cut and past so I had a lilo that gave me the option smp-noapic (bad Idea, don't really try it, SMP, is multi procesor and needs apic) by adding a 'stanza' for smp-noapic so that lilo.conf looked like this image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=quiet devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off vga=788 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux-nonfb root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-smp label=linux-smp root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd-smp.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-smp label=linux-smp-noapic root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd-smp.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off NOAPIC read-only hope that helps Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Noob help 2 - was: SCSI card not recognised by 9.1
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 15:47, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Wednesday 06 August 2003 08:08 am, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: I tried editing /etc/modules.conf manually (as also suggested by Dark Lord - many thanks), adding the following lines Doug, did you try doing what I suggested in my last reply? Using MCC to find your card and configure the module from there? Just curious as to the result! Ronald, Thanks again. I tried editing modules.conf (and also modules) as you suggested - but no effect. I wrote back some days ago but haven't seen it on the mailing list,so don't know what happened to it. Did you send another e-mail? I have tried MCC= Hardware= Harddrake, but there's no sign of anything relating to (genuine) SCSI. DougB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Noob help 2 - was: SCSI card not recognised by 9.1
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 10:03, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 20:53, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 10:32, Sharrea wrote: snip I have an Adaptec scsi card for my Microtek E6 scanner which is not presently being used with my current MDK9.0. It took me _weeks_ to find information on setting it up with Mandrake - MDK 8.1 at the time. Anyway, here's the website that provided the information: http://www.mir.com/mtek/ava-hints.html At the time I added the following line to /etc/modules.conf: options aha152x aha152x=0x140,9 Aha! I wondered how to get the parameters in and in /etc/lilo.conf append=aha152x=0x140,9 with 140 being the base I/O address (140h) and 9 being the IRQ which I set manually in BIOS. So perhaps you need to edit your lilo.conf. HTH. I'll try that and see how it fares. Many thanks also for the URL, DougB Sharrea Progress report after some frustrating fiddling about: 1) added the lines to modules.conf and lilo.conf. Still no sign of SCSI card on re-boot. 2) Ran /sbin/lilo (with edited versions of modules.conf and lilo.conf as above)to get changes into lilo - error message Error at line ... when append line inserted at the end of lilo.conf. Tried positioning append line in the image section for linux - error message duplicate append lines. Re-booted just the same. No sign of SCSI card. only one append line per boot stanza but options can be 'stacked'. 3) Used the Twiki SCSI instructions, except that I had no need of jumper setting, etc. as this had already been done a long time ago. Comments: (a) find... in my MD9.1 the aha152x module is in .../kernel/drivers/scsi/ not ...kernel/drivers/ (b) To instal the card for a single session, modprobe aha152x aha152x=0x140,10 on its own is sufficient cat /proc/scsi/scsi checks the scanner device is recognised In my system, the additional changes to modules.conf and lilo.conf *DON'T* preserve the installation after power down (In fact, the lilo.conf changes are flagged as error). However, all these problems may be particular to *MD9.1*, because with 9.0 I found that the SCSI card could be installed directly (without any need for editing files, etc) during the original installation of 9.0, so long as that was done in expert mode. An absolute bugger! :- Off to try Stephen's suggestions. DougB __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Noob help 2 - was: SCSI card not recognised by 9.1
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 05:53, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 13:10, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 22:08, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: snip TIA DougB What about putting this stuff in the /etc/rc.d/rc.local so that when you reboot, it fires it up from there? Thanks. I don't have the faintest idea how to do that (what lines of script, how to set it up to run, etc.). Can you help? TIA DougB What you can do is to edit the /etc/rc.d/rc.local script, and at the end of that script, type in all the commands you would normally type into the terminal in order to get your SCSI working, mate...save it, reboot... -- Fri Aug 8 09:25:00 EST 2003 09:25:00 up 4 days, 13:13, 1 user, load average: 1.14, 1.10, 1.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Large increases in cost with questionable increases in performance can be tolerated only in race horses and women. -- Lord Kalvin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Noob help 2 - was: SCSI card not recognised by 9.1
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 08:08 am, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: I tried editing /etc/modules.conf manually (as also suggested by Dark Lord - many thanks), adding the following lines Doug, did you try doing what I suggested in my last reply? Using MCC to find your card and configure the module from there? Just curious as to the result! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Noob help 2 - was: SCSI card not recognised by 9.1
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 15:40, ed tharp wrote: snip line in the image section for linux - error message duplicate append lines. Re-booted just the same. No sign of SCSI card. only one append line per boot stanza but options can be 'stacked'. Ed, How do you do that? TIA DougB snip Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Noob help 2 - was: SCSI card not recognised by 9.1
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 10:32, Sharrea wrote: snip I have an Adaptec scsi card for my Microtek E6 scanner which is not presently being used with my current MDK9.0. It took me _weeks_ to find information on setting it up with Mandrake - MDK 8.1 at the time. Anyway, here's the website that provided the information: http://www.mir.com/mtek/ava-hints.html At the time I added the following line to /etc/modules.conf: options aha152x aha152x=0x140,9 Aha! I wondered how to get the parameters in and in /etc/lilo.conf append=aha152x=0x140,9 with 140 being the base I/O address (140h) and 9 being the IRQ which I set manually in BIOS. So perhaps you need to edit your lilo.conf. HTH. I'll try that and see how it fares. Many thanks also for the URL, DougB Sharrea Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Noob help 2 - was: SCSI card not recognised by 9.1
On Thursday 07 August 2003 22:52, Anne Wilson wrote: Sharrea, I have added this link on the HardwareCompatibility page of the TWiki. Could you add your extra information, please? Hi Anne I added a note above yours on the HardwareCompatibility page and details on the Main.SCSI page. Cheers Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Noob help 2 - was: SCSI card not recognised by 9.1
On Thursday 07 Aug 2003 10:32 am, Sharrea wrote: On Wednesday 06 August 2003 09:35, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: In a PCI/ATAPI/IDE/USB system, how do I get a SCSI card recognised at boot-up? My PC has IDE HD and ATAPI CD-writer and a USB flat-bed scanner, all of which are recognised automatically. But the SCSI card, which only serves a 35mm film scanner, is not. /etc/modules has scsi_hostadapter /etc/modules.conf has probeall scsi_hostadapter usb-storage ide-scsi probeall usb-interface usb-uhci etc. cat /proc/scsi/scsi shows CD-writer on Host: scsi0 ; chan:0; id:0; lun:0. I can get the SCSI card recognised *after* the system is up and running by using modprobe. Then my SCSI device turns up as Host: scsi1, chan:0; id:2; lun:0. But I lose the SCSI card when I power down. I have an Adaptec scsi card for my Microtek E6 scanner which is not presently being used with my current MDK9.0. It took me _weeks_ to find information on setting it up with Mandrake - MDK 8.1 at the time. Anyway, here's the website that provided the information: http://www.mir.com/mtek/ava-hints.html At the time I added the following line to /etc/modules.conf: options aha152x aha152x=0x140,9 and in /etc/lilo.conf append=aha152x=0x140,9 with 140 being the base I/O address (140h) and 9 being the IRQ which I set manually in BIOS. So perhaps you need to edit your lilo.conf. HTH. Sharrea Sharrea, I have added this link on the HardwareCompatibility page of the TWiki. Could you add your extra information, please? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Noob help 2 - was: SCSI card not recognised by 9.1
On Sat, 2003-08-09 at 12:00, ed tharp wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-09 at 06:40, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 15:40, ed tharp wrote: snip snip here is part of my lilo.conf image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=quiet devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off vga=788 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux-nonfb root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-smp label=linux-smp root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd-smp.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off read-only each stanza starts with image= the append lines have options stack by including and separating by a single blank space, so if I wanted to include NOAPIC to the smp stanza it would look like this before I rerun /sbin/lilo, which I would do before I rebooted, but after editing image=/boot/vmlinuz-smp label=linux-smp root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd-smp.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off NOAPIC read-only so the only change would have been from this; append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off to this; append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off NOAPIC this would not have effected any other choices in my lilo menu, just when I start selecting the entry corresponding to the label. so for my self, I might even cut and past so I had a lilo that gave me the option smp-noapic (bad Idea, don't really try it, SMP, is multi procesor and needs apic) by adding a 'stanza' for smp-noapic so that lilo.conf looked like this image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=quiet devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off vga=788 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux-nonfb root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-smp label=linux-smp root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd-smp.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-smp label=linux-smp-noapic root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd-smp.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off NOAPIC read-only hope that helps Ed, Thanks. I'll give it a go. DougB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Noob help 2 - was: SCSI card not recognised by 9.1
Ed and Ronald, On Sat, 2003-08-09 at 12:00, ed tharp wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-09 at 06:40, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: snip single blank space, so if I wanted to include NOAPIC to the smp stanza it would look like this before I rerun /sbin/lilo, which I would do before I rebooted, but after editing image=/boot/vmlinuz-smp label=linux-smp root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/boot/initrd-smp.img append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off NOAPIC read-only so the only change would have been from this; append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off to this; append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi acpi=off NOAPIC snip Ronald, Thanks for the advice - I googled linux Adaptec/AHA1520, problems and installation. Problems referred to kernel problems around 1998, Installation gave essentially the same information as the Mandrake Twiki SCSI entry, so unfortunately, no further forward. Ed, Thanks for the help. I added the aha152x bit onto the append in my linux* stanza. /sbin/lilo accepted it without objecting this time. But on bootup, no sign of the fscking SCSI card. Any more suggestions? DougB BTW, I thought I might take the problem to the expert list as well: I've tried to subscribe through the support list and the mailing list via [EMAIL PROTECTED], but have had no acknowledgement whatever. Are they not accepting new subscribers, or is there some problem? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Noob help 2 - was: SCSI card not recognised by 9.1
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 09:35, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: In a PCI/ATAPI/IDE/USB system, how do I get a SCSI card recognised at boot-up? My PC has IDE HD and ATAPI CD-writer and a USB flat-bed scanner, all of which are recognised automatically. But the SCSI card, which only serves a 35mm film scanner, is not. /etc/modules has scsi_hostadapter /etc/modules.conf has probeall scsi_hostadapter usb-storage ide-scsi probeall usb-interface usb-uhci etc. cat /proc/scsi/scsi shows CD-writer on Host: scsi0 ; chan:0; id:0; lun:0. I can get the SCSI card recognised *after* the system is up and running by using modprobe. Then my SCSI device turns up as Host: scsi1, chan:0; id:2; lun:0. But I lose the SCSI card when I power down. I have an Adaptec scsi card for my Microtek E6 scanner which is not presently being used with my current MDK9.0. It took me _weeks_ to find information on setting it up with Mandrake - MDK 8.1 at the time. Anyway, here's the website that provided the information: http://www.mir.com/mtek/ava-hints.html At the time I added the following line to /etc/modules.conf: options aha152x aha152x=0x140,9 and in /etc/lilo.conf append=aha152x=0x140,9 with 140 being the base I/O address (140h) and 9 being the IRQ which I set manually in BIOS. So perhaps you need to edit your lilo.conf. HTH. Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Noob help 2 - was: SCSI card not recognised by 9.1
On Thursday 07 Aug 2003 3:17 pm, Sharrea wrote: On Thursday 07 August 2003 22:52, Anne Wilson wrote: Sharrea, I have added this link on the HardwareCompatibility page of the TWiki. Could you add your extra information, please? Hi Anne I added a note above yours on the HardwareCompatibility page and details on the Main.SCSI page. I don't see the note on the HardwareCompatibility page - would you like to check it? The link to the main SCSI page is fine, though. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Noob help 2 - was: SCSI card not recognised by 9.1
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 00:54, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 07:35, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: Hi, This is a re-post - I hope someone has some ideas. In a PCI/ATAPI/IDE/USB system, how do I get a SCSI card recognised at boot-up? snip I can get the SCSI card recognised *after* the system is up and running by using modprobe. Then my SCSI device turns up as Host: scsi1, chan:0; id:2; lun:0. But I lose the SCSI card when I power down. It's very frustrating - any suggestions? Thanks, DougB Have you tried to manually edit the /etc/modules.conf and add the necessary modules there? That way it would be perm...and you can try to do a depmod -a Stephen, Thanks. I tried editing /etc/modules.conf manually (as also suggested by Dark Lord - many thanks), adding the following lines probeall scsi_hostadapter aha152x alias scsi1 aha152x (but without any parameters - I don't know where they would come or whether it matters. Does it?) and also /etc/modules adding another line scsi_hostadapter (and also tried variations on this - scsi_hostadapter1, etc.) then depmod -a. Didn't do a thing :-((. If I put the probeall scsi_hostadapter aha152x alias scsi1 aha152x in modules.conf *ahead* of probeall scsi_hostadapter usb-storage ide-scsi probeall usb-interface usb-uhci on re-booting I found the ...aha152x.. had been overwritten by usb-storage... What do you suggest? TIA DougB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Noob help 2 - was: SCSI card not recognised by 9.1
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 07:35, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: Hi, This is a re-post - I hope someone has some ideas. In a PCI/ATAPI/IDE/USB system, how do I get a SCSI card recognised at boot-up? My PC has IDE HD and ATAPI CD-writer and a USB flat-bed scanner, all of which are recognised automatically. But the SCSI card, which only serves a 35mm film scanner, is not. /etc/modules has scsi_hostadapter /etc/modules.conf has probeall scsi_hostadapter usb-storage ide-scsi probeall usb-interface usb-uhci etc. cat /proc/scsi/scsi shows CD-writer on Host: scsi0 ; chan:0; id:0; lun:0. I can get the SCSI card recognised *after* the system is up and running by using modprobe. Then my SCSI device turns up as Host: scsi1, chan:0; id:2; lun:0. But I lose the SCSI card when I power down. It's very frustrating - any suggestions? Thanks, DougB Have you tried to manually edit the /etc/modules.conf and add the necessary modules there? That way it would be perm...and you can try to do a depmod -a -- Wed Aug 6 09:50:00 EST 2003 09:50:00 up 2 days, 13:38, 2 users, load average: 2.14, 2.24, 2.12 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Logic doesn't apply to the real world. -- Marvin Minsky Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Noob help 2 - was: SCSI card not recognised by 9.1
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 22:08, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: on re-booting I found the ...aha152x.. had been overwritten by usb-storage... What do you suggest? TIA DougB What about putting this stuff in the /etc/rc.d/rc.local so that when you reboot, it fires it up from there? -- Wed Aug 6 22:05:00 EST 2003 22:05:00 up 3 days, 1:53, 2 users, load average: 3.17, 3.32, 3.34 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. -- Derek Bok, president of Harvard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
