Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting
Funny, I had the same problem and solved it the same way. Isn´t it great how you _have_ to learn things in KDE by clicking them, since the help files are so lame? ;-) A rather risky choice if logged in as root, might I add... I´ve learned more just by reading these posts than working at my computer for hours... /Gustavo Viola ß^» --- Frisbyterianism: When you die, your soul goes up on the roof. No I have it now if you run KDE app finder it adds the gnome stuff to the KDE menus. Jeanette - Original Message - From: alann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 5:15 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting Jeanette Russo wrote: I have the KDE menu in GNOME, but I don't have the GNOME menu in KDE which is what I KDE as GNOME while beautiful doesn't seem stable Jeanette You must have not installed it. I saw it just today at work installing Mandrake for a work project. From my memory ( which is stressed! ) there is a KDE menu choice in gnome ( F1 describes it ) which is checked by default and the reverse which I think is NOT checked by default that does the same the other way. I bet this is your answer. Alan -- === [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Coming to you with Linux-Mandrake 6.0
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting
No I have it now if you run KDE app finder it adds the gnome stuff to the KDE menus. Jeanette - Original Message - From: alann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 5:15 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting Jeanette Russo wrote: I have the KDE menu in GNOME, but I don't have the GNOME menu in KDE which is what I KDE as GNOME while beautiful doesn't seem stable Jeanette You must have not installed it. I saw it just today at work installing Mandrake for a work project. From my memory ( which is stressed! ) there is a KDE menu choice in gnome ( F1 describes it ) which is checked by default and the reverse which I think is NOT checked by default that does the same the other way. I bet this is your answer. Alan -- === [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Coming to you with Linux-Mandrake 6.0
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting
I have the KDE menu in GNOME, but I don't have the GNOME menu in KDE which is what I KDE as GNOME while beautiful doesn't seem stable Jeanette - Original Message - From: alann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting Jeanette Russo wrote: Can you also access GNOME menu items from KDE? I saw the KDE menu in GNOME. Jeanette Sure, I do it all the time. Usually I boot into e/gnome and run Kppp, and KDE's news reader under gnome. There should be a gnome menu in your KDE under the 'K" somewhere. Alan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Coming to you with Linux-Mandrake 6.0
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting
Can you also access GNOME menu items from KDE? I saw the KDE menu in GNOME. Jeanette - Original Message - From: Ribbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting On Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 07:57:34PM -0700, Westbrook said: Hi again All, Skip question #1 I figured it out (switchdesk). I still need help with the dialer though. Russ, you can use kppp, its include in mandrake 6.0 kppp is very simple and easy to setup, itc omes with KDE network but you can use it along with Gnome. well you can run every KDE apps in Gneome and vice versa. click your 2nd mouse button to the Gnome's foot-button, then select properties. check the "on the main menu" option for KDE menu, so you can access KDE apps from Gnome, have fun. -- Rib
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting
Yes, run the Kappfinder on your desktop and it will add some gnome items to your menu. On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Jeanette Russo wrote: Can you also access GNOME menu items from KDE? I saw the KDE menu in GNOME. Jeanette - Original Message - From: Ribbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting On Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 07:57:34PM -0700, Westbrook said: Hi again All, Skip question #1 I figured it out (switchdesk). I still need help with the dialer though. Russ, you can use kppp, its include in mandrake 6.0 kppp is very simple and easy to setup, itc omes with KDE network but you can use it along with Gnome. well you can run every KDE apps in Gneome and vice versa. click your 2nd mouse button to the Gnome's foot-button, then select properties. check the "on the main menu" option for KDE menu, so you can access KDE apps from Gnome, have fun. -- Rib -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting - dialing
Hi Rib, I was kinda hoping to use something from Gnome, but anyway I did notice that late last night (about 11:30) and started playing with it. This is what I came up with: When I tried to set it up as a normal user, these errors popped up: pppd is not properly installed the pppd binary must be installed with the SUID bit set. Contact your System Administrator. ==OK== I press "OK" and this one pops up: ~~~ kppp has detected a 'lock' option in /etc/ppp/options. This option has to be removed since kppp takes care of device locking itself. Contact your System Administrator. ==OK== ~~~ I press "OK" and the dialer comes up. I click "Setup" then set the modem (ttys3 or something like that. I am back in Windows to send this so it is from memory and what I wrote down) then I attempt to Query the modem and I get this error: Sorry, can't create modem lock file. All the above happens whether I am logged into KDE or Gnome. If I log in as root (and it doesn't matter if I'm using KDE or Gnome), I do not get the first error "pppd is not properly installed.." but I do get the second error "kppp has detected a 'lock' option in /etc/ppp/options." I press "OK" and the dialer pops up. I choose setup and tell it where the modem is (ttys3) then 'Query the modem' it finds it just fine. I can even log onto the net and surf to my lillo hearts content. Can anyone tell me what SUID is? I did look at the properties of that 'options' file and tinkered with the permissions (didn't seem to help) and I noticed the option "set UID" (would this be SUID?). I checked it and the one below it but the errors still came up. Also, do I need to delete the 'options' file or just edit it and remove the line that says "lock". Actually that is the only line in there (I opened it in a text editor). Again, thanks for any help. Russ - Original Message - Russ, you can use kppp, its include in mandrake 6.0 kppp is very simple and easy to setup, itc omes with KDE network but you can use it along with Gnome. well you can run every KDE apps in Gneome and vice versa. click your 2nd mouse button to the Gnome's foot-button, then select properties. check the "on the main menu" option for KDE menu, so you can access KDE apps from Gnome, have fun. -- Rib
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting - dialing
Westbrook wrote: Hi Rib, I was kinda hoping to use something from Gnome, but anyway I did notice that late last night (about 11:30) and started playing with it. This is what I came up with: When I tried to set it up as a normal user, these errors popped up: pppd is not properly installed the pppd binary must be installed with the SUID bit set. Contact your System Administrator. As root: chmod +S /usr/sbin/pppd ==OK== I press "OK" and this one pops up: ~~~ kppp has detected a 'lock' option in /etc/ppp/options. This option has to be removed since kppp takes care of device locking itself. Contact your System Administrator. Use your favorite editor to remove the line reading 'lock' from /etc/ppp/options. ==OK== ~~~ I press "OK" and the dialer comes up. I click "Setup" then set the modem (ttys3 or something like that. I am back in Windows to send this so it is from memory and what I wrote down) then I attempt to Query the modem and I get this error: Sorry, can't create modem lock file. As root: chmod 777 /var/lock All the above happens whether I am logged into KDE or Gnome. If I log in as root (and it doesn't matter if I'm using KDE or Gnome), I do not get the first error "pppd is not properly installed.." but I do get the second error "kppp has detected a 'lock' option in /etc/ppp/options." I press "OK" and the dialer pops up. I choose setup and tell it where the modem is (ttys3) then 'Query the modem' it finds it just fine. I can even log onto the net and surf to my lillo hearts content. That's because root can read and write anywhere and anything he so desires. Can anyone tell me what SUID is? I did look at the properties of that 'options' file and tinkered with the permissions (didn't seem to help) and I noticed the option "set UID" (would this be SUID?). I checked it and the one below it but the errors still came up. Also, do I need to delete the 'options' file or just edit it and remove the line that says "lock". Actually that is the only line in there (I opened it in a text editor). SUID means to 'set user id' to the user who owns the file whenever it is run. It's a way of offering privileges to users that they typically wouldn't have. The lock option means that it writes a lock file when PPP is running. This prevents another PPP from trying to start while the first is still running. If 'lock' is the only option in /etc/ppp/options, you can safely delete it. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting - dialing
On Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 08:37:40AM -0700, Westbrook said: hi Russ, When I tried to set it up as a normal user, these errors popped up: pppd is not properly installed the pppd binary must be installed with the SUID bit set. Contact your System Administrator. ==OK== are you sure you already installe the "ppp" packet which comes with your mandrake? I press "OK" and this one pops up: ~~~ kppp has detected a 'lock' option in /etc/ppp/options. This option has to be removed since kppp takes care of device locking itself. Contact your System Administrator. ==OK== ~~~ become root (type su in your terminal) then: #pico /etc/ppp/options [ENTER] remove the 'lock' line, then hit Ctrl-X, and save I press "OK" and the dialer comes up. I click "Setup" then set the modem (ttys3 or something like that. I am back in Windows to send this so it is from memory and what I wrote down) then I attempt to Query the modem and I get this error: ---del--- Russ, try to make connection as Root. this is NOT good to make modme connection as root but if you can make the connection then your problem is the SUID stuff but if you cant then i suppose your not install the ppp or you might want to try another dialer like minicom (first you must set it up in root acc, '#minicom -s') or wvdial .etc or make a link to your modem to /dev/modem #ln -s /dev/ttyS3 /dev/modem run the Kppp setup again and change the modem device to /dev/modem last... make sure your modem is not a softmodem cause linux cant recognise them. sorry my english... im 13years old and a newbie for english and linux. -- Rib
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting
On Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 07:56:55AM -0500, Jeanette Russo said: Can you also access GNOME menu items from KDE? I saw the KDE menu in GNOME. Jeanette sure you can Jeanette, i use Gnome + WindowMaker and running some KDE apps to. like Klyx, Kppp, and Kpanel run 'panel ' from your KDE and you'll have the Gnome panel. or make a new app icon for 'panel' in your Autostart folder,so you can have Gnome panel every time you log on your KDE -- Rib
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting - dialing
Westbrook wrote: Steve, Rib, Well, I did what you guys said, updates below: Now when I log in as "russ" (that's me :-) and start kppp it comes right up. No errors at all. However, when I try to query modem, it says "sorry, can't open modem" as if it wasn't there yet I have the same setting I was using in "root" (my alter ego). Any suggestions as to why (root still works btw)? Heh, we missed a step! You'll need to know which ttyS your modem uses, then: chmod 666 /dev/ttySx -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting
Hi All, I DID IT! YIPPI YAHOOO.com I managed to setup the dual boot Win98\Linux without destroying the DOS partition. Thanks to all the little tidbits you all have given me. It did not go like clockwork but I did manage it. I used Expert mode to install Linux and it asked me a few more questions than I got before. Thanks to all your help I kinda knew what I should choose. When I booted up again, System commander (I paid cash for that thing and I'm determined to use it :-) didn't see the Linux boot but Windows 98 still worked (plus one). I did however make a boot disk for Linux (RedHat 6) so I popped that in and rebooted. Linux came up (plus two), so I rebooted and went back to System Commander and told it to look at the Linux partition and make it bootable. It then showed a listing for Linux in the boot menu (plus three). I crossed my fingers, selected Linux and it loaded...col. Now I have some new questions: Question #1 I chose Gnome instead of KDE (I'm sorry but I really like the looks of Gnome). When I played with Linux before I was using KDE and was able to set up the dialer and mail program and log onto the net. I can't even find the dialer in Gnome. Anyone out there care to "Enlighten" me? Question #2 During my last install (before this one), I played with Gnome a little and I stumbled on something that changed the desktop to some other Window managers (then I couldn't figure out how to change it back to Gnome, but that's another story). I don't see them this time. I think AfterStep was one choice but I'm not real sure since I am still a little foggy on how some of this stuff works. If anyone out there remotely undertands what I am trying to say, could you tell me where I can find this list again? I think it was in the file menu "Another Level" or something like that. Thanks Again Russ Having Fun In Oregon :-)
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting
Hi again All, Skip question #1 I figured it out (switchdesk). I still need help with the dialer though. Thanks Russ - Original Message - Question #1 I chose Gnome instead of KDE (I'm sorry but I really like the looks of Gnome). When I played with Linux before I was using KDE and was able to set up the dialer and mail program and log onto the net. I can't even find the dialer in Gnome. Anyone out there care to "Enlighten" me?
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting
On Thu, 02 Sep 1999, you wrote: Hi John, May I please ask how you did it? If the disk was one big partition, how did you partition it without destroying the data, then how did you get Linux to install with out destroying the DOS partitions. To be honest, I don't recall now I think I must have used Linux FDISK to split the hard drive However, since you've got Partition Magic, it shouldn't be a problem for you to repartition. just manually repartition using Partition Magic (or freeware util on the Linux CDROM under the /dosutils directory called "fips.") John
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting
On Wed, 01 Sep 1999, you wrote: (Russ) I am not the only one in the house that will be using this computer so I was striving to make it as easy as possible for them. Besides the fact that I was unaware that LILO did this. Oh well. --- Easy enough...just have it default to DOS/Windows instead of Linux. :-) (Russ)--- I have done this several times in DOS\Win installs. But again, this was suppose to make it easier. - *shrug* Yeah...but at least when you repartition manually, you have better control. :-) (Russ)--- Did you do the Linux install after Windows was installed or did you set it up all at once? -- Windows was already installed when I got this machine and installed Linux. Never had a problem. You should ALWAYS install Windows first. (Russ) U, another mistake :-/ I know I did this one on my last install. Could it be that that is why it messed up my DOS partitions? --- Could very well be. (Russ)-- So much to learn...Incidently, I also want to install VMWare so I can run windows from with in Linux - Sorry...can't help you with that. :-) Haven't tried it yet myself. (Russ)- May I ask what you mean by "hard edges"? I was only able to play with it for a few hours before I re-installed Win98 over it (I'm getting good at that) --- Heh. I know about reinstalling. :-) When the time came to upgrade to RedHat 6 from Mandrake 5.3 (Mandrake 6 wasn't out yet) it was difficult, if not impossible. I screwed it up so badly, I couldn't boot to Linux As far as hard edges, I mean that your mouse pointer doesn't go past the edge of the screen, and onto another virtual desktop the way it will in XVWM and GNOME by default. In KDE, the mouse pointer stops at the edge of the virtual desktop. If you want to go to another desktop, you have to specifically select that desktop. John
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting
-Original Message- From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] big snip, snip As far as hard edges, I mean that your mouse pointer doesn't go past the edge of the screen, and onto another virtual desktop the way it will in XVWM and GNOME by default. In KDE, the mouse pointer stops at the edge of the virtual desktop. If you want to go to another desktop, you have to specifically select that desktop. John You can change this in the Control Panel for KDE. Make sure you have 800x600 resolution, because the screens for this setup is large. I don't remember the exact place for this, but I was able to change this. I have Mandrake 5.3 and I turned this feature on and hated it so I switched it off. It may be under mouse features or virtual desktop config within the control panel. Brian
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting
Russ, The only way to change partition size and add or delete partitions without losing data is with Partition Magic or Partition It. The standard dos fdisk will destroy the data for sure. I would not live in this current world without Partition Magic from PowerQuest. (and I don't work for them) You can reduce the size of a partition with PM and then install LM in the free space. If this is a huge drive, you can move the DOS/Windows partition up a little and when installing LM, put the /boot partition at the beginning of the drive. (below the 1024 limit) Hi John, May I please ask how you did it? If the disk was one big partition, how did you partition it without destroying the data, then how did you get Linux to install with out destroying the DOS partitions. Thanks Russ - Original Message - (Russ)--- Did you do the Linux install after Windows was installed or did you set it up all at once? -- Windows was already installed when I got this machine and installed Linux. Never had a problem. You should ALWAYS install Windows first.
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting
Why use System Commander? LILO will allow you to dual-boot right out of the box. (Russ) System Commander (and it's evil side kick Partition Commander) are suppose to be graphical and easy. I also like the idea of being able to repartition on the fly. -- ==[John]== I tend to agree with Steve (?) in saying you should just use LILO and manually type in "dos" (or whatever you've labled it) if you want Windows or "enter" for Linux (or wait for the timeout G) == [me again G] Since you have System Commander (and Mandrake 6) you may also have Partition Magic. If so, use that to "squeeze" down your Windows partition, then create two more partitions (at least): 1 partition of around 50-100 megs for "swap" space, and the rest for Linux. (Russ)- System Commander comes with Partition Commander and it supports drives bigger than 8 gigs (I have a 13). The programs that come with Caldera and RH only support drives up to 8 gigs. Anyway, System Commander (in cohoots with Partition Commander) is suppose to automatically divy up the drive. It appears to do this but I am doing something wrong further down the line (I think). --- I would MANUALLY repartition and not screw with System Commander. Having started out as a DOS person, I never really got so hung up with the GUI portion of Windows I think a mistake a lot of "newbies" have is getting too dependant on the GUI-based install. Seriously, try manually repartitioning. I just stuck the Mandrake CD into my drive on my specially-built Linux box (ie dedicated Linux box) and booted from the included boot disk. I've also installed Linux on an existing Windows machine three or four times now with no difficulties. The main problem lies in creating a partition for Linux that's compatible with Windows. Another thing you should look for is the check-box for "make partition growable." You should NOT check that box if you intend on keeping an existing Windows partition active Once you've done the re-partitioning, choose "custom" install. For custom, installing "everything" except the foreign-language "how-to" files, I found the drivespace requirements to be right at 1 GB. If you choose to install less, of course, you will use less space. Also, you should choose something OTHER than the primary Windows partition for your Linux install. Choose the other large partition for Linux (again, at least a GIG of drivespace would be highly adviseable.) (Russ)--- I want to allot 4gigs for Linux but System Commander only wants to give me 2 (I made the swap partition 128megs since I have 128megs of ram) - [John] Yet another reason for manually repartitioning. OTOH, you MAY want to create a partition for /home (500 megs or so???) and one for /usr, and maybe one for "raw storage" under Linux. One advantage to this is that it won't require a reformat of /home if you have to reinstall or upgrade. You may also want to squeeze a partition in BEFORE Windows of about 10-25 megs for "/boot" (more about that later.) (Russ)--- Now this is where System Commander comes in. It says it will take care of that so I don't have to as long as Linux is in it's own partition, which I am trying to do. -- Again, I wouldn't use System Commander IMNSHO there's no need for that with LILO. (Russ)--- Fair enough. I have had all three flavors running (recently RedHat). I really really liked Gnome. -- UGH! :-) Oh, well...to each his own. :-) The main thing I didn't like about GNOME was that there were no "hard edges" on any of the desktops by default. :-) (Russ) Actually it is so System commander can take control of the boot up process. Basically I choose "Linux" from the list and it tells the computer where to go to fetch Lilo (which is on the Linux partition). -- Ahhagain, I'd skip System Commander and just use LILO. It's not that hardthe only reason I can think of to use System Commander is so you can boot from within Windows or if you've got an existing install of NT / 2000.
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting
Hi John, - Original Message - ==[John]== I tend to agree with Steve (?) in saying you should just use LILO and manually type in "dos" (or whatever you've labled it) if you want Windows or "enter" for Linux (or wait for the timeout G) == (Russ) I am not the only one in the house that will be using this computer so I was striving to make it as easy as possible for them. Besides the fact that I was unaware that LILO did this. Oh well. --- I would MANUALLY repartition and not screw with System Commander. (Russ)--- I have done this several times in DOS\Win installs. But again, this was suppose to make it easier. - I've also installed Linux on an existing Windows machine three or four times now with no difficulties. The main problem lies in creating a partition for Linux that's compatible with Windows. (Russ)--- Did you do the Linux install after Windows was installed or did you set it up all at once? -- Another thing you should look for is the check-box for "make partition growable." You should NOT check that box if you intend on keeping an existing Windows partition active (Russ) U, another mistake :-/ I know I did this one on my last install. Could it be that that is why it messed up my DOS partitions? --- [John] Yet another reason for manually repartitioning. OTOH, you MAY want to create a partition for /home (500 megs or so???) and one for /usr, and maybe one for "raw storage" under Linux. One advantage to this is that it won't require a reformat of /home if you have to reinstall or upgrade. (Russ)-- So much to learn...Incidently, I also want to install VMWare so I can run windows from with in Linux - UGH! :-) Oh, well...to each his own. :-) The main thing I didn't like about GNOME was that there were no "hard edges" on any of the desktops by default. :-) (Russ)- May I ask what you mean by "hard edges"? I was only able to play with it for a few hours before I re-installed Win98 over it (I'm getting good at that) ---
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting
Westbrook wrote: Hi All, I just purchased a nice computer with a large HD. I also purchased System Commander for the purpose of dual booting between Win 98 and Linux. I have Caldera 2.2, RedHat 6.0, and Mandrake 6. I have not had very good luck setting any of them up in a dual boot environment. I have managed to set them all up but they destroy my Win98 setup in the process (4 different times). Actually the Partitions are still there but they have been converted to "non-dos" partitions. Sounds like you installed Linux into the Windows partitions. Does the advice "Don't do that!" go without saying? :) Is there anyone out there who could take the time and help me figure out what I am doing wrong? Again, I can set Linux up to run properly (or at least it appears to run properly), I have done the basic setup several times. My question is "how can I do it and keep my Windows?" Just make sure to use a portion of your drive that doesn't belong to Linux. During installation, do NOT choose Server or Workstation. Opt for Custom instead so you can tell it where you want it installed. Also, System commander says something about using root super block and not the MBR. It also says this is chosen during setup, but I've missed it each time somewhere. Near the end of the installation, it will ask whether you want LILO installed on hda or hda1. Sounds like System Commander wants you to use hda1. Why use System Commander? LILO will allow you to dual-boot right out of the box. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting
On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, you wrote: Hi All, I just purchased a nice computer with a large HD. I also purchased System Commander for the purpose of dual booting between Win 98 and Linux. I have Caldera 2.2, RedHat 6.0, and Mandrake 6. I have not had very good luck setting any of them up in a dual boot environment. I have managed to set them all up but they destroy my Win98 setup in the process (4 different times). Actually the Partitions are still there but they have been converted to "non-dos" partitions. What kind of install did you select? Since you have System Commander (and Mandrake 6) you may also have Partition Magic. If so, use that to "squeeze" down your Windows partition, then create two more partitions (at least): 1 partition of around 50-100 megs for "swap" space, and the rest for Linux. Once you've done the re-partitioning, choose "custom" install. For custom, installing "everything" except the foreign-language "how-to" files, I found the drivespace requirements to be right at 1 GB. If you choose to install less, of course, you will use less space. Also, you should choose something OTHER than the primary Windows partition for your Linux install. Choose the other large partition for Linux (again, at least a GIG of drivespace would be highly adviseable.) You may also want to squeeze a partition in BEFORE Windows of about 10-25 megs for "/boot" (more about that later.) My experience has been with RedHat and Mandrake (which is essentially RedHat with some "extras") so I can only give you advice on those two versions of Linux. Now, if you want to use LILO, your /boot directory MUST be within the first 1025 cylinders, which is why I suggest a small partition at the head of your hard drive for the "/boot" directory. The rest of the install can go AFTER Windows. I would also strongly advise a full system backup BEFORE you do any of this...just in case. :-) Also, System commander says something about using root super block and not the MBR. It also says this is chosen during setup, but I've missed it each time somewhere. Hm.not sure what this is about unless it's about having the /boot within the first 1024 cylinders... Good luck! John
Re: [newbie] Questions about dual booting ~~sorry for it being solong
I use Caldera OpenLinux 2.2, and I think I might be able to help you out with that. When you first look in the manual, the tell you all about booting from the cd. This is the way I did it, and plus i didnt have to go into widows and load my hd full of crap! Ok, when the cd runs and the install starts, it will ask you if you want to do a full install on the hard drive or if you would like to make your own partitions first. choose this option. next re size your hard drive the way you lke it. make sure that you leave a small partition forr your /boot. LILO is picky about where it is. Next just choose the partitions that you would like to install to, and it will ask you if you are realy sure. make sure you are realy sure :) it does sjow you what partitions were made for linux when you did this earlier. sometimes LILO is mega picky (i mean its harsh :), and OpenLinux will boot right into windows. now this isnt about your first question, but here is how to fix it, if it does come up. boot from the yellow boot disk, and when the kernel is about to boot, hit tab. this should be done right when the caldera screen splashes up. now do this:: linux -3. now, when thats done, type in boot -lisa. this will bring you to a nice gui to to show LILO who is boss, and force it to install where you want it, and what partitions you want it to be able to boot up. just mirror the win98 partition, and that should be it realy. also install it on your MBR. its a lot easier than it sounds. sorry for this being so long jerrud
